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- 0:02You're listening to the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:06with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi,
- 0:09I'm Dr. Brenna Hicks,
- 0:10The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast
- 0:14where I give you insight,
- 0:15awareness,
- 0:15and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:20In today's episode,
- 0:21we are continuing the Parent Companion series
- 0:23and we are talking about
- 0:26the way a child's brain works in therapy
- 0:29versus the way an adult brain works in therapy.
- 0:32Very different.
- 0:33You might think,
- 0:34well,
- 0:34therapy is therapy.
- 0:35Yes,
- 0:35brains are brains,
- 0:36yes,
- 0:36no.
- 0:37So,
- 0:38we're going to look at the different way
- 0:41That therapy
- 0:43works for
- 0:45different ages of people
- 0:47and hopefully,
- 0:47it will give you some perspective on why
- 0:50child-centered play therapy is so effective and appropriate
- 0:53as children's brains are very different.
- 0:57So when we think about therapy for adults.
- 1:00We often think about,
- 1:02most often actually think about going in,
- 1:04sitting down on a couch and talking to someone.
- 1:07All right,
- 1:07that makes sense because
- 1:09we are rational
- 1:11and cognitive
- 1:12and logical
- 1:14and we have abstract reasoning.
- 1:16Our brains are fully developed after 25.
- 1:20So if we sit down,
- 1:22a therapist can give us a verbal prompt.
- 1:25And that's almost always how therapy begins.
- 1:29So if it's it's the first session,
- 1:31it would be.
- 1:32So what brings you here?
- 1:35Or what are some of the things that you'd like to process?
- 1:39If you've been
- 1:41with a therapist for a while,
- 1:43the prompt shifts to something more like,
- 1:46so how's your week been?
- 1:47Or what's on your mind today?
- 1:50But in either scenario,
- 1:52early on in the process or later on in the process,
- 1:54the therapist gives a verbal cue.
- 1:58And you have a decision to make as an adult.
- 2:02What am I going to bring up?
- 2:06There are all kinds of options.
- 2:08So,
- 2:09what
- 2:10is going to be processed in this moment today?
- 2:13And the reason why we have that ability is
- 2:15because we're using our brain to decide first,
- 2:18but second of all,
- 2:19we categorize everything
- 2:21into
- 2:22boxes.
- 2:24You can think of adult brains like a waffle.
- 2:29And essentially what happens is all of those little crannies and nooks in the waffle
- 2:35is our storage box.
- 2:37So therapist says,
- 2:40What's on your mind,
- 2:41and you have an immediate decision to make out of
- 2:44which box am I going to extract the topic.
- 2:48So we have
- 2:49work,
- 2:50we have
- 2:51marriage,
- 2:52we have parenting,
- 2:53we have childhood,
- 2:54we have anger,
- 2:55we have anxiety,
- 2:57we have
- 2:58fluff because we don't want to deal with any of that deeper stuff.
- 3:02But every single option.
- 3:05It's going to come from a categorized box.
- 3:08Because
- 3:09that's the way that our brains work.
- 3:10It's like a waffle.
- 3:13Kids' brains
- 3:14are more like spaghetti,
- 3:16cooked spaghetti.
- 3:17Let me make it clear,
- 3:18not the rigid,
- 3:19hard kind that haven't been in boiling water yet.
- 3:22The very flimsy,
- 3:23loosey goosey
- 3:24spaghetti noodles.
- 3:26And here's what this looks like.
- 3:28They are not cognitive,
- 3:30rational,
- 3:30logical.
- 3:31They don't have abstract reasoning,
- 3:33and they're not verbal.
- 3:35So
- 3:35an adult saying,
- 3:37What do you want to talk about?
- 3:38What's wrong?
- 3:39Why did you do that?
- 3:41What happened?
- 3:42What were you thinking?
- 3:43All of the prompts that adults tend to give children.
- 3:47It's met with a shrug.
- 3:49Or an I don't know
- 3:51or nothing.
- 3:53Because
- 3:54that's not the way their brain works.
- 3:57Their brains are more like cooked spaghetti noodles.
- 4:00So here's what happens.
- 4:01They're experiential.
- 4:03They're emotional
- 4:05Everything is here and now.
- 4:09And the way that they process things is experientially.
- 4:14So in play therapy,
- 4:16Child comes in
- 4:18child-centered approach says
- 4:20we know that the child is going to work on what they
- 4:22need to work on when they need to work on it.
- 4:26So the prompt
- 4:27isn't really a prompt at all.
- 4:29It's more of,
- 4:30here's what's going to happen.
- 4:32You can play with all the toys in most of the ways that you want.
- 4:37And the child will then
- 4:39naturally gravitate toward the things that they need to work on,
- 4:42but here's where the spaghetti comes in.
- 4:46As a child realizes,
- 4:47you know what,
- 4:48I really need to work on my self-control,
- 4:50and they don't have the thought that they need to work on it.
- 4:52They feel that they need to work on it.
- 4:54Let me be really clear,
- 4:55they're not thinking through that.
- 4:58But they know,
- 4:59they instinctively understand,
- 5:01I really get disregulated.
- 5:02I really get out of control.
- 5:04I need to work to work on this,
- 5:05address this.
- 5:07So they decide,
- 5:08I'm going to
- 5:09start working on this
- 5:11aggression.
- 5:13They experience the need
- 5:16to process it,
- 5:18and they begin.
- 5:19So they pull one spaghetti noodle,
- 5:20the aggression noodle.
- 5:23And with that aggression noodle comes a tangle of some other noodles.
- 5:28So as they start to work on their aggression,
- 5:30because they're pulling on that noodle,
- 5:32there's this little tangle of these other noodles.
- 5:34And so self-esteem's going to come along with that
- 5:37because as they
- 5:39become less aggressive,
- 5:40they feel better about themselves.
- 5:42So now they've got the self-esteem noodle too.
- 5:45And then as they feel better about themselves,
- 5:48they're going to have more self-control
- 5:51because kids behave in self-enhancing ways
- 5:54when
- 5:55they
- 5:55are in a relationship and an environment that allows
- 5:58them to become a better version of themselves.
- 6:00So they started with aggression.
- 6:01That noodle came first.
- 6:03It kind of dragged this self-esteem noodle with it.
- 6:06Well then,
- 6:08It
- 6:09is now pulling self-control and self-regulation with it.
- 6:12And then as they become more self-controlled and more self-regulated.
- 6:16Then
- 6:17they
- 6:18are able to control their emotions more.
- 6:21So now here's the 4th noodle
- 6:22of the emotions and the emotional vocabulary that they're going to work on,
- 6:26and so on and so on.
- 6:29So the beauty of child-centered play therapy
- 6:32is that
- 6:33every single issue that gets addressed
- 6:37often begets other issues to get addressed.
- 6:40Now,
- 6:40let me go back to my
- 6:42waffle
- 6:43analogy.
- 6:45An adult
- 6:46can choose to focus on one box in that waffle for years.
- 6:50You can go to therapy for years.
- 6:55On a side note.
- 6:57I think most of the time.
- 7:00Unless you are really truly gaining momentum and actually having huge
- 7:06influence
- 7:07in your life
- 7:08and you feel like you're just growing leaps and bounds,
- 7:11you don't really need to be in therapy for years.
- 7:14But that's related aside.
- 7:15OK.
- 7:15So,
- 7:17You can work on the same thing.
- 7:19You can say I'm going to work on.
- 7:21My anger issue
- 7:23You can make that decision every single time you go to therapy
- 7:27forever.
- 7:30And there are all those other boxes full of stuff that
- 7:33you need to work on.
- 7:35But you could choose to stay only in the anger box.
- 7:38You could choose to stay only in the anxiety box.
- 7:43But those boxes are surrounded by other boxes
- 7:46that are related
- 7:48your childhood,
- 7:49your marriage,
- 7:49your parenting,
- 7:50your work,
- 7:51your friendships,
- 7:52your film,
- 7:53all of it.
- 7:54It is all related,
- 7:55but because we can categorize it like waffle boxes.
- 7:59It's easier to extract out of only one box and stay there for a really long time.
- 8:05children don't have that luxury.
- 8:07So as they're working on one thing,
- 8:09it brings up other stuff.
- 8:12And because of the nature of cooked spaghetti noodles,
- 8:15they're kind of in a little tangly ball.
- 8:18And one thing is working on another thing is working on another thing,
- 8:21is working on another thing,
- 8:22and it
- 8:23snowballs.
- 8:26So my hope is that you can see it's a very different process.
- 8:31But it is a very powerful process
- 8:34because
- 8:35one thing.
- 8:37Naturally kind of lends itself toward other things
- 8:40and the child continues to become better versions of
- 8:43him or herself through all of these avenues,
- 8:46one at a time,
- 8:47yes,
- 8:48but they all are working in conjunction with each other.
- 8:52So hopefully it gives you a little bit of
- 8:54insight about how kids' brains are very different,
- 8:57and that's why
- 8:59talk therapy does not work with young kids.
- 9:01That's why cognitive therapy does not work with young kids.
- 9:05That's why play therapy is so powerful,
- 9:07because they're not able to think about it.
- 9:09They're not able to talk about it,
- 9:11but they can experience and feel it.
- 9:14And that's what CCPT allows kids to do.
- 9:18Let me pause really quickly before I sign off.
- 9:20I hope that if you are celebrating Christmas,
- 9:22that you have a wonderful time with your family and your friends,
- 9:26and you're able to
- 9:28give yourself a second to think about the year
- 9:31and all of the things that have,
- 9:33have been given to you,
- 9:34the things for which you're grateful.
- 9:36From my family to yours,
- 9:37I hope that you have a lovely Christmas,
- 9:40and I'm looking forward to continuing to hang out in the new year.
- 9:43Love y'all.
- 9:44We'll talk again soon.
- 9:45Bye.
- 9:46Thank you for listening to
- 9:47the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
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