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Is Something Huge About to Happen With TNA? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #747 – 6/6/24 · THE STILL REAL TO US SHOW – Real Guy Radio

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Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition. This'st A Realta Show Episodembers seven
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and forty seven for June six, twenty twenty four. Welcome to your NXT
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Battleground Preview and Predictions edition of s RT You. I am one half the
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show. I am Jeff Peck joined every single week my co host one only,
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doctor Troy Franklin, Doctor Trey. Allergy season is here, my friend,
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I kind of heard it from you in off air when you were we
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were talking, kind of heard the sniffles kick in. A little of the
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drain is going on. Luckily for me, I am incapacitated, so I
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don't really get to go outside at all, so I don't have to fight
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the allergies like you do. So my my condolence is on your battle for
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the next couple of weeks. Thank you, brother, I really appreciate that.
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And feel free to join in on the hashtag feel better Jeff all one
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word over on x Facebook, minuspace, whatever you're using. A friend of
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mine and I were talking on Saturday and we were like, I haven't experienced
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any allergies this year, like it's wild, And then Sunday I just started
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getting like an stream tick on my throat, and I was like, okay,
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there we go. It is here and I've been battling. This is
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probably the best I've been all week, doctor Trade. And usually it's not
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this late, but uh yeah, it's there's WrestleMania season, then there's allergy
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season here on SRT, so usually it's I get hit whenever we first get
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the big rush of pollen. So usually like mid to late April, I'll
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get all this sinus trainage and then I'm good for a while, So I
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don't really battle the allergies. Is it literally just comes down to how much
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pollen's in the air for me. But uh, like I said ear like,
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yesterday I got I only get to leave the house about once or twice
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a week right now. So yesterday we got to go out and take Sammy
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to like his speech therapy class to help him talk a little more, a
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little bit more coherently. You'll probably hear him in the background mumbling at his
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video games on his tablets. But then I got said earlier like I want
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so many meds right now because of the surgery and being diabetic, that my
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every day's an adventure for me. Because I don't know which medication is going
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to jump to the front of the line say that they're taking over for the
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day. So right now, if you threw Benadryl into my list, I
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would just sleep non stop right now. Yeah. So there you go,
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two old guys just talking about how they're breaking down as at this point in
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their lives. That's how far we've come here in sr TU. So that
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is historically something that always happens here. I think Doctor Trey brought it up
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on the podcast, like we have had Jeff Allergy Week coming up here and
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here we are. I mean, I feel like I'm at the tail end
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of it. But yeah, Jeff Allergy Week is upon us other history that
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is going on. But in the world the professional wrestling Doctor Trey is.
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There is a debate right now with current undisputed w champion Cody Rhodes in regards
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to his babyface era that we are presently in, and this comes to us
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from both Wrestling Observer Radio and Wrestling Inc. According to Dave Meltzer, he
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revealed recently that cody Roads drawing up berns were bigger than that of John Cena's
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during Sena's run as WWE's top babyface in the mid two thousands to early twenty
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tens. As such, this would make Roads the most successful top star w
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we's hat since the Attitude era, where the promotion was built around Stone Cold,
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Steve Austin and Rhodes's rival Dwayne the Rock Johnson. So I ask you
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this, Doctor Trey, I mean, is everything that's going on right now
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can we contribute it to the babyface run of Cody Rhodes And very much so.
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This is in the early early stages of this babyface run. Are you
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surprised that in some circles? And whether you like Dave Meltzer or not,
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he is definitely historian the world of professional wrestling. He is making a case
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that this babyface run is bigger than Sena's and I think to me, Sena's
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babyface run is one of the biggest professional wrestling history because of the longevity of
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his time in w versus Hogan and Austin and Rock who are around for bits
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and pieces, but they would eventually like come and go or forcibly have to
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retire very early or go to Hollywood. What are your thoughts on this comment
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here by Dave Meltzer regards to Cody Roads his Babyface era, I'm gonna ask
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you for a little clarification. Now, is he comparing like timelines like Cody's
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like in the first three months or in his first two years, or is
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it just his numbers right now are better than any of seen his numbers at
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all? During his Babyface run, He's saying that the attendance drawing is that
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already bigger than at any point turned Sena's run, So that that is kind
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of surprising me. I would say, like, if you're looking at like
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Cody's been the company now about what almost two year and a half to almost
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two years, about two years now, Yeah, so if you're looking at
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his first two years versus maybe seen his first two years as a Babyface,
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I would say, yeah, I would think Cody might be ahead because you
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haven't really seen it as a heel for a while before he turned baby Face,
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So there's still a little bit that questioning whether he's going to stay at
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baby face or go back to heel, and some people still didn't like him.
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I think if you're looking at overall, it's really surprising because you know,
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during the middle of that scene of Run, when he really peaked,
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like his stuff was everywhere and you saw him everywhere, and I mean,
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you don't. I don't excuse me. I don't think you've seen Cody everywhere
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yet. But you know, maybe the economy and money available out there is
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better than it was during the early two thousands of seens run because it is
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surprising that Cody's outpacing Sena if you're looking at you know, Seena's best time
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in Gates. So it's a little surprising. But maybe, uh, you
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know, remember Sina was so divisive because there were a lot of fans that
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like the people that were in their twenties to thirties and you know, early
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forties that did not like Seena's maybe face because he was shoved down our throats.
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And I guess everybody likes Cody because you know, saying you know,
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hey, I'm a fan of the American Nightmare does sound edgier than saying I'm
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a fan of hustle, loyalty and respect. So it's a little it's a
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little surprising, but maybe Cody is one of those baby faces that fits for
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everybody. Where Seena was kind of divisive, I think eventually Cody hits that
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Sena era, where like fans start to turn on at turn on him a
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little bit. I just think that is just how wrestling fans tend to be.
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But who knows, maybe it's a little bit different than the creative air
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of Triple h rather than that of fitsick Man. And that takes me to
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my next point here. Doctor Trey, Steve, Austin Hogan and Cody very
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very short term are part of the focal points of some of the biggest eras
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in professional wrestling right now. The Sena era in two thousand and twenty tenish,
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creatively was not as strong as what we saw in the Attitude era or
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the wrestling boom in the eighties and even present time. If you took John
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Cen and you put him in the Attitude era, or if you take John
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Cen and you put him into Cody roadsera. Right now, are we having
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this discussion where Cody Rhodes is considered a historical bigger babyface than that of John
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Cena. Yeah, see, I think Sena would fit pretty well in like
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the eighties air of Hogan. I mean, I think he'd fit in there.
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I think if you put him in the edge of area, you'd see
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maybe Sceena wouldn't have stayed a babyface his entire run. You have seen at
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least one Heel turn in there, and we've seen John z Heel you know,
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earlier his career. Can he can pull it off? And I think
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a Sena in this era would be would be really strong as well. I
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think it's kind of like the debate about like if you put Michael Jordan in
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present day, would he still be successful. He's a fantastic basketball player.
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He would adapt to whatever environment he's in and still be very, very successful
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and probably still the grace of all time. So I think with a guy
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like Sena, he was so versatile, you know, early in his career
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and then later in his career, that you could drop him in any era
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and he would be successful. I don't know if if you put Cody in
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the eighties if he would be as successful as you now, because he's a
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little bit smaller than those guys. I mean, even Macho was at a
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little bit bigger size than what Cody is. I think Cody might have struggle
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there. I think Cody would be okay in the Attitude era, and I
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think he would succeed in you know, Sena's timeline despite his struggles. You
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know, he was in his infancy in his career during the early Scena run.
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But you know, I think seen of those still is all around better
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than Cody from the totality of character. Right now, I feel like there's
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more similarities between Cody and Sena than anything. In my mind. I think
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the only difference is what you pointed out, Doctor Trey, that Cody is
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a little bit more accepting by the adult audience. I think Cody's a great
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in ring worker, but I think he's a very like solid, safe in
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ring worker, very similar to Sena. I think the character of Cody Rhodes
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can be a little bit corny as well. I mean, and it wasn't
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that long ago you and I both were sitting up here talking about him being
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like a used car salesman in a way, which I've heard that described of
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him before. I think the authenticity of Cody Rhods is one that definitely,
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you know, captures a lot of people's emotions and feelings about him. But
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Cody comes on the screen for me as a wrestling fan, and I'm not
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like captivated. I don't put his stuff as the top storyline in w in
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my mind right now, the one that at least I'm most excited for.
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I like Cody as a worker, but I just it's very similar to the
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way that I looked at Sina. It was like, I like Sena,
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I respect Sena Seena's matches. I wasn't like, wow, you got to
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go out of your way and check out this match. Some of its feuds
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were not great. It was just kind of like safe, And I feel
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like Cody is like that too right now. So I don't know. I
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just don't. I guess what I'm trying to get at. As even as
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maybe historical babyface, I don't think Cody should be getting all the credit for
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like how popular or you know, his run as a babyface has been successful.
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I know it's merchandise sales are through the roof, They're fantastic, But
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I don't know. I just don't. I don't. When Hogan was on
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top, it was like, this is because of Togan. When Austin was
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on top, it was like this is because of Austin. But as time
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went on, you were like, all right, these guys, I've also
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fed into the attitude error success. When Sina was on top, it just
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felt like it was because of Sina at that period of time, and with
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Cody Roads on top right now, I don't look at him as the main
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reason as to why their success for w WE. He plays a huge vital
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role into it. But I'm like, look it over here, look what's
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going on with Damian Priest, Judgment Day, dom liv Morgan. Then look
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on over to SmackDown and see what's going on with Logan Paul and everything.
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The United States Championship Division or the Tag Team Title Division, or the women's
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feuds that are going on right now. Like there's a whole bunch of other
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stuff that I'm like, I can hang my hat on and go, this
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is what I find entertaining. I don't find just the Cody Road stuff to
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be the most entertaining. Well, I think part of it, and we
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talked about this, you know before WrestleMania, of it is you know Roman,
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you know, spent three years basically beating everybody, so they really didn't
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have anybody built up in place as the eventual top heel to chout Cody when
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Cody took over, So you're kind of treading water. We've seen that,
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you know a little bit with the with the with the AJ feud and the
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Logan Paul stuff and now kind of back to AJ where you know, people
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aren't looking at AJ as man like they're not You're not, You're still just
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looking at going, Yeah, Cody's gonna bet AJ, you know, whenever
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they they eventually match up, you know, square off, like Cody's gonna
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beat Logan Paul. Like there's no juicy storyline for Cody after Wrestle Media yet,
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So they're kind of you're kind of feeding off of everything else that's kind
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of built up, whether it's like you know, like you mentioned the stuff
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on Raw with Damian Priest, or the Chad Gable stuff, or the New
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Bloodline stuff or the stuff going on with Live and you know there's other stuff
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that's kind of carrying it as they build. You know, Cody's next guy
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heading into SummerSlam, And to me, I look at it like Cody's a
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safe pick for fans to get behind because kids love him because he's a good
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guy and he doesn't says all the right things. The older audience, you
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know, we can cheer form because hey, that's the son of Dusty Rhodes.
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It's not like this Charlotte Flair, where we've seen Cody's struggle to get
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to where he's at, where a lot of people felt like Charlotte was handed
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stuff. You know, Cody's like grinded and been at the bottom of the
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car and we've seen him work his way up so you can get behind him.
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I just right now, I think they're just looking at as Hey,
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business overall is strong, we still have to build somebody up to be Cody's
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main rival and have that anti Cody. Whether you know you mentioned Austin.
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For a long time it was Austin and Rock and then it was Triple h
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and that you know, there's other guys in there. Scene always had Orton
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and Baptista an edge to fall back on. Hogan had all his rivals,
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like whether it's Piper or Nor Orbacho Man or you know, Earthquake or whoever
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it was, Cody hasn't found They haven't found that main rival for Cody yet,
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so it's kind of like, hey, we need the rest of the
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car to be solid until we find that guy to match up with Cody where
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we can have those fight for every chance that people love, you know,
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So I think that they're just kind of trading wire. I don't like,
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I agree with you. I don't put this all on Cody as being the
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main Dragon force right now, but you could say, you know, from
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last SummerSlam to WrestleMania, it was Cody's battle to get back to WrestleMania and
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beat Roman. That was kind of carrying that show and carrying that audience.
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So he did his part there. Right now it's everything else carrying the show
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until they find that guy to match up with Cody. Yeah, I just
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think again, like you're saying in as well, it's just really too early
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right now to be like, all right, this is the reason why they're
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so successful. This is he is a historical, historically successful babyface could be
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better than Sena. I mean, Sena had ten plus years as the top
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babyface, Hogan had eight to ten, Austin had a good five year run,
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Rock had a good four year run up there, and it's like,
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we need to see a little bit more than you know, just a couple
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of months as the world champion, and if you're putting in the build over
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the last year, that's fine as well. I would say. When he
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returned the company, obviously he had the torn peck about a year, you
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know, two years ago at this point he returned Roy Rumble twenty twenty three.
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He had a great run all the way through twenty twenty three to then
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winning the title. So it's definitely up there. But I just think,
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again, it's really too early to tell to be like this is a historical
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run from a business standpoint. I mean, the business as a whole is
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being successful. He plays a cog in that wheel. But to be like
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this is the flag bear, this is the guy right now that helps moving
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the success very very early to tell as compared to the other ones. When
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it comes to Hogan, Sina, Austin Rock, whoever else do you want
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to put in those in that same vein. But right now, the way
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the business is booming, Cody's got to get a lot of credit for it.
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I just say, from a resting fans perspective, it's like, we
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need to see a little bit more before we can sit there and say this
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is what's going on. Switching gears about stuff that's going on right now.
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There is a lot of intriguing stuff that is taking place with t and An
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Wrestling right now, and it's got my spider Census Tingle in a little bit,
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Doctor Trey. According to Wrestling Observer Newsletter, and this comes to us
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via Restling Purists on Twitter, they had posted last week there is a lot
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of stuff going on behind the scenes of TENA that just started a break.
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Robert Evans, also known as r D Evans on the independent scene. He
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was also with Roa Trusting for a period of time, who was one of
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the key guys on the creative team, resigned this past week. Other key
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people have been let go as well. There's nothing on the schedule past eight
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two and eight three tapings in Tampa. More about that. This comes to
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us from Dave Meltzer Wrestling Observer Newsletter as well as Wrestling in dot com that
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carry the story. So at the end of May, David Shahati and Louis
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d'angeli, who was also known as sign Guy Dudley in ECW all left t
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DA Wrestling. Dave Meltzer spoke openly about TNA situation on Wrestling Observer Radio,
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stating that people within the company now have to sit and wait for the company's
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next move now that they essentially have no marketing or live events team, saying
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they have no marketing team, they have no live events team. They have
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nothing booked out for the first weekend of August. They have a taping booked
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in Tampa. There's nothing after that. Meltzer said, what does that mean?
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I don't know. In theory, W setting them talent for the next
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paper unit exchange for Jordan Grace working three dates for them for we everyone is
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kind of waiting. They know something's up, but they don't know exactly what.
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So without saying much here, doctor Trey, it appears to me that
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there is something going on behind the scenes. And I'll just cut to the
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chase here. I won't go through any red tape in it, but I'm
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starting to wonder does WW have a hand in the future of TNA Wrestling.
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And the only way that we could look at this is are they looking to
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potentially acquire a TNA wrestling Very huge moves going on behind the scenes. Nothing
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on the taping schedule as of right now from A two to eight three.
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What is going on here? Are they shifting strategy? Are they shifting plans?
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Have they been sold? Is this falling under the w umbrella? What
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do you think is going on with TNA Wrestling right now? Yeah? See
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for me, when I like at first, I was like, Okay,
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this is kind of cool. It's just a little bit of cross promotion.
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It's a little bit like we saw with AWTNA, you know a couple of
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years ago, with Kenny Omega coming on at TNA. You know, they're
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just they're they're cross promoting each other's and I help each other out. This
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one's more questionable because when you see all the moves, whether it's the Scott
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de Moore stuff or the stuff with Rdy Evans or this, you know,
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the trimming of budgets, that's always a sign that a company's trying to get
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as lean as possible for a sale. Like you and I both work in
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the world of corporate America, we see that with companies going on, when
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they restructure management team or they cut expenses or things like that, that's usually
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a sign that they're getting ready to get sold off. And that's what's got
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me got these spiders. Sensus teming for me is when you see WWE,
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who never openly has ever acknowledged anybody else, now cross promoting with TNA and
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bringing in their knockouts champion onto their show and openly talking about who she works
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for and where she works at. That's got me thinking that, like,
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hey, they're not doing this unless they're getting something out of it more than
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just you know, booking or as good as Jordan Grace is, Jordan Grace
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is not a game changer in the eyes of the casual wrestling fan. So
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why would you hype this up so much unless you have a hand in what's
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going on in TNA. Like, it feels very similar to what they did
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with E c W, you know, back in the day at times when
19:56
they would have Paully and Sandman, Tommy Dreamers show up and Rob Van dam
20:03
it feels like they have a hand in that product. And usually if they
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have their hand in that product, at some point they're going to acquire that
20:11
brand and bring it under their umbrella. So it just feels like there's like
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TNA's up for sale on the markets because otherwise, why would you not Why
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would you cut your marketing departments if you're trying to openly grow your product like
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that makes no sense to me. That's usually a sign that they're open for
20:33
acquisition. So that's kind of where I think they're heading doors right now.
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Wrestling Ops on Twitter posted something from PW insider. The belief in WWE is
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that there will be some sort of NXT involvement at TNA against All Odds on
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Friday, June fourteenth, which will see Jordan Grace have an open challenge for
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the TNA Knockouts Knockouts title and possibly Slammiversary in Montreal. Brooks Jensen they're running
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angle with him, that he's like no longer with we, He's looking for
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booking. Appeared during the commercial break during NXC television, which I don't know
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if we're going to get to this two straight weeks of great NXC television mind
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you Like it's it's it's feeling old school and they're they're like building a really
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really good momentum right now that I'm enjoying. He cuts a promo on his
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social media and says that maybe it's time for him to make an impact,
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So that would appear to me an NXT contracted talent in Brooks Jensen should be
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showing up at TNA soon. I surmised on Twitter earlier this week Doctor Trey
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at us RTU Jeff cheap Pop that I feel like maybe this is leading towards
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the rebirth of the NXT world's Collide pay per view that they like to do
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or pl E, and they would do it with NXT and TNA for that
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event. There's a lot of weird things going on right now with TNA that
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I don't feel like is being talked about too much, and I feel like
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that maybe the directions were going and I think that would be a dream scenario.
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It would be basically ww's answer to a Forbidden Door pay per view that
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like AW is running Doctor Trey. Yeah, it would be kind of on
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a smaller scale because you know, once again, like as much as you
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know I appreciate TEENA Wrestling and the roster they have there, a lot of
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those guys are still kind of unknown to the mainstream. You got to be
22:26
kind of a fan of both products to really appreciate, Oh my god,
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we're gonna have moos versus you know, Trick Williams, you know, something
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like that, Like that'd be awesome to me. It also kind of feels
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like, remember when WW got involved with Evolve, you know, back in
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the day, and we were seeing the NXT guys that they weren't using that
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much go to Evolve, Like I remember velveteen Dream being over there the street
22:51
profits Matt Riddle, like they were all making appearances at Evolve shows and cross
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kind of cross promoting each other, but as a way for NXT guys who
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gets more TV exposure other than just on that NXT product. So it does
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feel like there's something going on here. Like TNA used to do the World
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Cup also and they would do like TNA versus the World So they could do
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something like that with these two shows and kind of help cross promote. But
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I don't think WP does that unless they have full creative control over the TNA
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wrestlers when they come on to NXT tail or when they come on NXT television.
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I don't really see a upside for WE fending their talents to TNA to
23:34
lose the TNA talent, so because you still want to present your brand as
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being the stronger of the brands. So to me, it just kind of
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feels like, like I said, like what they did with e CW,
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like what they did with Evolve back in the day, Doctor Trey outside of
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Jordan Grace and will preview and predict WW Battleground or because of the NXC Battleground
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later on the show, do you think another con track to TNA Wrestling talent
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appears on the PLA this Sunday Man, Like, my dream scenario is that
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Josh Alexander helped Ethan Page beat Trick Williams. Wow the North the North,
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Like that would be awesome if that happened. Uh, I don't. I
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honestly, I don't think so, but I wouldn't be surprised if you had
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something at the post show. So I'll think about it. I don't,
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Yeah, maybe maybe I'll go. I'll lean yes that there's some kind of
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interaction like post main event, somewhat like the Invasion Angle or even you know,
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God willing, dear guy, I'm blanking Nexus, like the Nexus type
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event where a bunch of TNA guys jump Trick Williams to end the show and
24:53
we have one of those big beatdowns Like that would be very very cool,
24:57
and I think that would be a lot of people talking. We will preview
25:00
and predict NXT Battleground later on the podcast. Keeping with the WWE Doctor Trey,
25:07
I originally had this down and something I wanted to talk about after the
25:10
match I saw on Raw Monday between bron Breaker and Ricochet, and over the
25:14
last month, I'm like, Holy crap, Like they've got something here with
25:18
bron Breaker, and then Russell Votes on Twitter tweeted out the following, saying,
25:22
Wa has considerably altered creative plans for bron Breaker. Breaker has impressed many
25:26
higher ups. In a short sit on Raw, a source stata that Breakers
25:30
slated to be a major focus heading into the Netflix era. Source also added
25:34
with his age speed look in Pedigrade, this way a combination of talents isn't
25:38
to be overlooked. Again. That came to us from Wressell Votes on Twitter.
25:42
I mean we've watched him in the last New or three years on NXC
25:47
since they launched the two point zero era. He had the first official match.
25:49
He actually defeated La Night that night, Doctor Trey, and I never
25:55
was like this massive bron Breaker fan. You always looked at him and you
26:00
were like, there's a tonnel potential there. He's got a good look,
26:03
really athletic, and his time has gone on, like with the wolf Dog
26:07
stuff that he was just doing, and then what he's been doing lately Unwraw
26:10
and the way he's being booked and presented, and then his matches themselves,
26:14
it's like, holy crap, they they have something here. Do you agree
26:18
with that? Do you think bron Breaker is and we always are looking for
26:22
this, Is he the next big thing in w w WA? Yeah,
26:27
he is. And I was kind of with you like early on when they
26:30
because for one, like when they first they put him, we knew his
26:33
pedigree. I hated the name. I still don't like the name braun Breaker.
26:38
I think it's just two comedy like it's two eighties for me, I
26:42
guess two nineties. I thought like it's kind of like that weird era of
26:48
like the late eighties early nineties is kind of cartoonishy. It's it's it's literally
26:52
like almost like Sparky plug it. To me, it is how bad that
26:56
name is. But when you watch him the ring, and you got to
27:00
remember, like, guy, he's only been wrestling three years. Even with
27:03
his pedigree, it was literally like he was a college football player, went
27:07
to the NFL, didn't make you know, the football, didn't make the
27:11
Ravens out of training camp and then transition into wrestling. It's only been three
27:15
years. I still have the Madden game that has him in it. You
27:18
know, it was like, it's crazy to think how far he's coming just
27:21
from my time. But when you watch his like how fast he hits the
27:26
ropes, Like his speed is incredible for a guy his size is. His
27:30
intensity is incredible. He pops out of the screen when you watch him,
27:33
and you're just like, damn this, Like they're still just kind of scratching
27:37
the surface of what he can be. Like he's he's not as big as
27:42
brock Lesner was when Lesler came over, Like size wise, he's still a
27:45
little smaller, lesser. But there have been very, very few people I've
27:51
seen in my forty two years of watching pro wrestling that have that combination of
27:56
power, speed, intensity, and talk. And we saw that with the
28:00
Wolf Dogs, Like there's different layers that he can go to, Like so
28:04
early in the career, he's phenomenal talent. Like it's amazing how far he's
28:10
come in a short amount of time. Like he's never gonna be like you
28:12
know, the Kurt Angle, how Kurt Angle took to wrestling, or he's
28:15
never had that natural technical ability, but like he's better in the ring now
28:22
than what his uncle Scott was at this point in time. Like he's that
28:26
good and like the sky is he could be that guy that ends up being
28:32
the rival for a Cody or you know, somebody or a Gunther that kind
28:37
of carries the brand for five years that you always go to that rivalry match
28:41
and get eyes on the product. He's that good. Like, I'm just
28:45
completely impressed with how far he's come such a short amount of time. Yeah,
28:48
when he was getting the climb in n XT and if somebody was like,
28:52
hey, this is a future WE champion, I was like, yeah,
28:53
I could see that in the next ten years. I could see that
28:56
in the next year or two. I mean, it is just completely come
29:00
off the page. And I think the big difference here, Doctor Trey is,
29:03
and I want to get your thoughts on this is I feel like bron
29:07
Breaker is so much more confident in the ring, so much more confident in
29:11
the microphone, and so much more confident in his character than we've seen at
29:15
any point in his short WE career. It's amazing what that time with Baron
29:19
Corbin taught him. Like he's after that that whole thing. Like when he
29:25
first turned heel like he had that strong run early on the baby face and
29:27
we were like, okay, but it was so like it was very Roman
29:30
Reigns babyface. For early babyface run where it was kind of like an odd
29:34
g shuck's baby face. They were chanting his they were doing the John Cena
29:41
sucks chant to bron Breaker. Yeah, and then when he turned heel,
29:45
he just he never looked that first four or five months like when he turned
29:49
heel, it just never looked Comble. Remember you and I said, you're
29:52
going, what are they doing with bron Breaker, Like it was like,
29:56
yeah, they were just testing. They do this. You've seen this with
29:59
rocksdam Perezer or they have a strong baby face push and then they turn him
30:03
heel kind of just to see if they can be a heel. And that
30:08
pairing with Baron Corban, bro he learned so much from Baron Corbin in that
30:14
short amount of time that put him on a different playing field. Like you
30:18
see it like he knows he's good, he knows he's a good worker.
30:22
He knows how to get the fans either behind him or to boom. Like
30:27
he's kind of like the light bulb has gone off. He's kind of figured
30:30
it all out now. And you know, when you're putting them in the
30:34
ring with guys like Ricochet who can sell their ass off, it just makes
30:38
him look even more impressive and ili your dragonov like the stuff with like him
30:42
and Ilia did at NXT and now seeing it carry over into the main roster
30:47
on RAW, Like when you get guys that can sell for you and make
30:51
yourself look you more impactful, it just brings it to a whole different level.
30:56
It's it's I don't know if if if Like he's better in the ring
31:02
than Goldberg probably ever was. But when Goldberg was on that initial undefeen history,
31:07
like Goldberg was doing something in the ring that you and I had never
31:08
seen before, and that's what kind of captivated a lot of people, was
31:11
like did that power the speed? But then you saw him doing some of
31:15
the mixed martial arts stuff that nobody else was really doing, and that's what
31:19
kind of grabbed us. Like he wasn't cutting promos, he wasn't doing all
31:22
this stuff that bron Breaker can do. He was just a big badass that
31:26
was just melling roop people and Broun can do that plus cut a good promo,
31:30
plus actually you know, be safe in the ring and not you know,
31:34
hurt somebody. But he just looks like he's having fun. He looks
31:40
like he knows what he's doing that. Confidence levels through the roof right now,
31:44
and he's not struggling like a lot of people have when they move from
31:48
ning team to raw, Like the stage hasn't gotten too big for him.
31:52
And that's where the pedigree of having a dad and an uncle like the Seiner
31:56
brothers can kind of help him because they can kind of prepare him for what
32:00
to expect going from working a you know, fifteen hundred, three thousand person
32:04
crowd to working a fifteen thousand person crowd, Like that stage never gets too
32:09
big for him. So they've they've got gold that they're just waiting to minz
32:14
is you know where Like where do you sync it up at? Does he
32:17
stay healed? Do they turn him baby face and let him wrong? Like
32:21
where do you go with it? But they have their next brock Lesler,
32:24
their next Roman reigns sitting there waiting in bron Breaker because I mean broad Breaker.
32:30
Gunther could be that next big few that carries the company for five or
32:35
ten years because they've met, they're gonna match up so well when they finally
32:38
cross paths. The booking right now of the WA World Heavyweight Championship is like
32:45
really got me thinking. It's like when you look at the stuff with Damien
32:47
Priest and Drew McIntyre, which we will prefeing predict on next week's podcast for
32:52
Clash at the Castle, it's like, Okay, which way do they go?
32:55
Because it's summer slay in the winner of that match is theoretically then taking
32:59
on Gunther and then at the end of that month in August is Bash of
33:02
Berlin, which I always had figured gun Through would be playing a big role
33:07
in that pay per view, And it's like, Okay, there are a
33:08
bunch of people. Damian Priest can hold on the title. True McIntyre can
33:13
win the championship, Guntherer could win the championship, see him, Punk could
33:16
win the championship, And now I agree with you you're throwing bron Breaker in
33:20
there. It's like the way the raw side of WW is structured right now,
33:24
it could go multitude of different variations with the World Championship, and that's
33:30
very exciting. If I was a betting man and I could put down money
33:36
on Roy Rumbo twenty twenty five right now, I would be plading money on
33:40
the odds for Broun Breaker to win that match, because I think this is
33:45
coming sooner. Rather than later based on his recent performance, I guess my
33:49
last question this entire thing, Doctor Trey, though, is where is the
33:52
success going to be lying? And is it going to be on the babyface
33:55
side or the heel side. I think it's gonna meant to be on the
34:00
baby face side. I mean that that and even though he got those those
34:04
bronze sucks chance like that you're referencing earlier in that run. I think,
34:08
you know, we love those American made meathead type guys, whether it's a
34:14
Hodan, whether I mean, I don't say Austin's kind of like just the
34:17
American redneck, mirror drinking, swilling kind of guy. We love those guys
34:22
that are like all gas, no breaks kind of guys and and bron breakers,
34:24
that kind of guy. It's it's the Goldberg in him. It's a
34:28
little bit of brock Lesner in him, it's a little bit of the Roman
34:30
Reigns in him. Just that combination of power and speed and intensity are something
34:37
that everybody can gobble up. Like, you know, he's a handsome dude.
34:40
Women love him like he's a big muscular, badass guy. Older fans
34:44
love him like, you know, just like he's a guy that can cross
34:47
all boundaries as a babyface and and be that next kind of conquering hero that
34:52
is the face of the company. Yeah, it's it's very, very impressive
34:57
the path that he is taking rainw now in Wa and it's really exciting to
35:02
watch and it's I don't know, it just I was like, this is
35:07
someone we got to talk about in the podcast. And then that story drop
35:09
today is just before we were about to record it. I was like,
35:12
this is perfect timing because this is how I feel as a viewer at home
35:15
watching Brown Breakers development right now. So something we will certainly keep an eye
35:19
on here for the rest of twenty twenty four going into twenty twenty five,
35:22
because I think the sky is the limit for the former NXT champion. Last
35:28
thing I want to talk about here, doctor Trey before we get an NXC
35:30
battleground, and this is one part making me feel old and then obviously looking
35:35
back at the entire thing, and the second part here. But this past
35:38
week on June second, was the ten year anniversary of the Shield breakup in
35:46
Wa and I vividly remember recording that show and you and I being like,
35:53
we are really bummed out about this because the Shield was right in a high
35:58
popularity at that point, but we were like, we totally get it.
36:00
And here we are ten years later, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins and John
36:05
Moxley have basically not basically, they have identified and defined a generation of professional
36:15
wrestling that we see today. Roman and Seth and WI John Moxley in AAW.
36:21
Safe to say that these three guys are some of the most influential wrestlers
36:24
in the last ten years and have changed the game in both companies that they
36:29
have served. You. I think, coming up on the five year anniversary
36:32
of AW, John Moxley is the greatest AW wrestler of all time right now
36:37
in their short history, and I think Roman Reigns is the greatest w star
36:43
we've seen in the last five years, and I think Seth Rollins is like
36:45
number two to that. So here we are ten years later, Doctor Trey,
36:51
what are your thoughts on the entire Shield breakup ten years later? Right?
36:55
Call still or like, oh, I wish they held on to a
37:00
little bit more and your thoughts on the impact of all three men in professional
37:04
rusting at this point. Yeah, it's it's one of the greatest breakup angles
37:08
of all time, if not the greatest breakup angle of all time. Like,
37:12
I can't think of another group breaking up, The Rockers they always point
37:16
to, Yeah, but you know, but it was one guy had success
37:22
out of that and not both. And I think when you look at the
37:24
Shield breakup and then all three guys becoming bigger stars separately than they even that
37:30
they were as a group, I don't know if that's ever been accomplished before,
37:36
where all three guys go on to be, you know, multiple time
37:38
world champions. You know, Marty had an intercontinental title victory out of that,
37:45
but it lasted like a week. So yeah, when you look at
37:49
a group splintering and all three guys going off and having successful singles careers,
37:54
it's it's unprecedented. So it's yeah, so it's the greatest group breakup.
38:01
But you know, like you said, like these three guys have been arguably
38:07
the faces of their respected companies for five years. You know, Seth was
38:12
kind of the face of the company coming out of that breakup, like he
38:15
had that long title run with the authority behind him. You know, Roman
38:20
just had this long three year run. Moxley's basically been the workhorse in the
38:23
face of aew over the last five years, and even prior to that,
38:27
he was kind of the workhorse in the face of you know, Monday Night
38:30
Raw when he was shooting with Seth. So really, over the last ten
38:35
years, I mean eight of those years have been dominated by Moxley, Rawlins
38:38
and Range and you know, really not that they've held down other people,
38:43
because they've helped elevate other people, but they've been kind of the Mount Rushmore
38:47
of wrestling. The last ten years have been those three guys. So and
38:52
arguably maybe the greatest chair shots of all time. I mean, I don't
38:59
know who else is chair shots equal. You know, Seth hitting Roman and
39:02
then how about a ten year storyline paying off at Wrestle with Roman, you
39:07
know, almost sacrificing his match to hit Seth with the chair he did,
39:14
yeah, I think he did. He sacrificed it. Yeah. So it's
39:17
like it's a ten year storyline that played out on our TV that might be
39:22
the longest, one of the longest storylines to play out in wrestling history as
39:27
well. So it's crazy to think about the impact that that one chair shot
39:31
had. But it turned I mean, it ended evolution, because evolution ended
39:36
that night when the Shield broke up, it launched the singles crews of all
39:40
three of those guys, and they've all been multiple time world champions, so
39:45
it's just incredible. And then you know a ten year storyline playing out last
39:49
year WrestleMania, so just incredible to see how long that they've they've milked that
39:53
and how much they've gotten out of it. So greatest breakup to me have
39:58
ever in wrestling history, I think the Shield had. When they debut Survivor
40:01
Series twenty twelve, they did punk and right back match. Yeah, well
40:07
ye, I think it was a trouble threat. I think they have been
40:09
seeing a punk rye back in that match, I feel like there was another
40:14
person involved. Nonetheless, so it was less than two years that they were
40:19
together in that incarnation. Then they would get back together every now and again
40:22
a couple of years later, and then towards the end there of Moxley's run
40:27
as Ambrose and Wa they did one last ride for a period of time.
40:32
When you look at the Shield and you compare it to nWo four Horsemen D
40:37
Generation X, where does it compare to all those Is it based on the
40:45
success of all these guys coming out of the Shield. I mean, they
40:46
came into this business at that point very much so like unknowns unless you were
40:52
a hardcore fan and I watched Seth Rollins as Tyler Black win the ROH World
40:57
Championship of two thousand and nine. I knew of Dean Ambrose's John Moxley on
41:00
the independent scene Roman Reigns. The only thing I really knew about him was
41:06
Jim Ross his blog on we dot com. He would cover Joe Annawani and
41:12
his college run and going in the pros periodically on his blogs. I remember
41:16
those outside of that, they were kind of unknowns in the professional wrestling world,
41:22
and then they came in and they became some of the biggest stars of
41:23
the professional wrestling because of the launch pad that was The Shield. Where does
41:29
that group compare to all the others? Is it? I mean, I
41:34
think it's safe to say it's one of the greatest stables of all time,
41:37
But is it the best based off of everything that has happened pre during and
41:42
posts that run as the Shield, Yeah, I would probably put it put
41:46
The Shield in the top five, but I don't know if I could put
41:49
it ahead of nWo DX or The Horseman I mean to me, that's that's
41:55
the hierarchy, that's that's the top of the line that comes to stables because
42:01
those groups probably had a longer run together than the Shield, and as a
42:07
group, I think those groups accomplished more. But separately, I would say
42:13
that there may be the greatest, like I said earlier, the greatest group
42:15
breakup because of the success they had post group, like the nWo when the
42:21
NVO finally broke up, Like nobody had really had a ton of success post
42:24
nWo. I mean, they're all still kind of on the same level as
42:28
they were when they got into the n OFO the Horsemen, like really it's
42:32
always been Flair on top, and then everybody else kind of stayed at the
42:36
same level. DX, I mean you probably. I mean it helped elevate
42:38
and launched Triple H's career. It helped elevate you know, road Dog and
42:44
Billy Gunn up to upper mid card status. X POC was still kind of
42:47
in the same area he's always been in. But the Shield as a group
42:52
was fantastic, but when they broke up, they were even better. So
42:57
I would probably put them either. I probably put them forth in the greatest
43:00
You know stables in wrestling history. Maybe you know, arguably you can go
43:06
back and forth with them a New Day because of the excess that you know,
43:08
Biggie had a title run run, Xavier was King of the Ring,
43:13
but you know, host breakup, they've had more success. So I would
43:17
might put them, you know, top five, but that'd be about where
43:21
I I would put them either fourth or fifth. Yeah, I think it's
43:23
the point that you made that as a as a group, they were dominant,
43:27
and I do believe as a group they're one of the greatest of all
43:29
time. The success that they had afterwards, it's hard to look back at
43:32
and go, well, this makes them the greatest of all time. I
43:37
think maybe as a membership trio they may be the greatest of all time based
43:40
on all their successes. But I would almost say, like, is the
43:45
Shield better than the Bloodline when it was like USO's and Sammy's Ain that incarnation
43:52
that we just saw kind of come to an end, And I think that's
43:53
a tough call. I've loved that Bloodline as a group, and I think
43:58
it's on par with the Shield. New Day I think has definitely lost momentum
44:04
over the years because of the injuries and not having the success like they did
44:08
when they first started. But I think the thing that catches the shield off
44:13
Guard from being like the greatest of all time is you don't really look at
44:16
them as a stable anymore. As a group you remember it certainly, and
44:22
all the success that they had afterwards is like, I don't know, just
44:25
like put them on a different level than everything that they did as a group
44:29
per se. So I'm in agreement there. It was mind boggling to be
44:32
like, this was ten years ago because I remember that Doctor Trede. Do
44:36
you remember covering that episode? For some reason, that episode like vividly is
44:39
in my mind, Yeah, because I think it wasn't too long before that.
44:44
You and I were talking about when are they going to break the group
44:47
up? And then they got into that whole run with them in Evolution with
44:51
the returning of Thetists and everything else, and we were like, man,
44:53
they're doing too well right now. You don't want to break them up.
44:57
And then they broke them up. It's kind of like, was the way
45:00
like we jinxed the whole situation because we had covered them breaking up like three
45:04
or four months before they actually broke up. And then we got really into
45:07
the Evolution rivalry. We were like, man, they can just leave them
45:09
together. Just let him run this, let him ride this whole thing out,
45:13
see how far it goes. And then they broke them up, and
45:15
we're like, damn it. But we were just getting really excited about them,
45:19
you know, continuing on as a group, and then they pull they
45:22
pulled the trigger and broke them up. So yeah, I think the plan
45:24
was before Punk had walked out, like they were gonna split up. I
45:29
think before WrestleMania, there's that always that rumored WRESTLEMANI thirty card and I think
45:35
on that it was like Dean Ambrose defend the United States Championship against the Roman
45:37
Reigns or something, So they tease it, kept them together, gave him
45:42
that run against the White family, that run against evolution for a little bit.
45:45
Then they broke them up. And then that summer of twenty fourteen was
45:50
a lot of building Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, and seth Ron's as individuals
45:54
and future main adventures. Which that was a really exciting time in wa watching
45:59
those guys grow and you know, stand out on their own as top level
46:02
talent. There is no, and I hate to use this phrase, there
46:07
is no Marty Jeannetti in the Shield. It's like every single one of those
46:10
guys is a first ballot Hall of Famer, and at different points in their
46:15
careers, as you pointed out, Doctor Trey, they were the top guy.
46:19
Rollins had that run, Rains obviously had that run, and Moxley has
46:22
had that run in aw And that's pretty quite crazy that they've all had times
46:29
where like they were the quote guy for the promotion they were working with in
46:32
the United States. So wild ten year anniversary of the Shield breakup, and
46:37
that takes us to our last thing I want to cover here in this week'sition
46:40
the podcast Doctor Trey NXT Battleground Preview Predictions this Sunday from the ufc Apex in
46:46
Las Vegas, Nevada. Let's start with the first match here, Doctor Trey,
46:51
Soularoka, Lash Legend, Fallon Henley, Jada Parker, Meechen Kalanie Jordan.
46:55
They will all be in a ladder master crown in the inaugural NXT Women's
47:00
North American Champion the first one. Who do you like in this one,
47:04
Doctor Trey. I haven't asked you this yet. Are you excited for them
47:07
having a secondary women's title in NXT, I am, because we've never seen
47:13
it on the WE landscape. So I'm interested to see how this takes place,
47:17
and I kind of get the vibe that maybe this is a test to
47:20
see how it could work out on the main roster, which I think an
47:22
intercontinental United States Women's Championship on the main roster would be pretty cool. Yeah,
47:28
I've always, like you and I talked about before, I've always hoped
47:30
they would just do like almost an all women's show, like not a plee,
47:35
but like it's just a show that's just all women. So that way
47:37
that you can also see like are they drawing or is it still the guy's
47:40
carrying them? But yeah, I'm curious about this match because you know,
47:45
we've kind of knocked AW for having too many titles, and I kind of
47:47
feel like I don't want WW to go down that path of having too many
47:52
championships. So but I'm excited with this match because this is kind of like
47:55
what the North American title has been for the men. It's kind of like
47:59
a launch This looks like a launching pad excuse me for certain women you know
48:04
going forward? Uh, with all the with all the storylines, so we
48:07
go with lash Legend and Trick Williams. I think I'm gonna take a lash
48:09
Legend winning the North American title. Yeah. I like Hume taking lash Legend
48:14
a lot of the same reasons, Like I think the way that she's being
48:15
built on NXC television makes sense for me to see her as the first champion,
48:22
as the NXC Women's North American Champion. And by the way, she
48:25
has really come a long way in ring wise, her work has gotten a
48:29
lot better. She went from somebody that was very hard to watch and the
48:31
ring to someone who's really coming far away, So props for her. Obafemi
48:37
defends the NXC North American Championship in a triple threat match against wes Lee and
48:40
Joe Coffee. I am gonna take Oba Femi to retain in this one,
48:45
Doctor Trey. Yeah, like we were hyping up bron Breaker, Oba Femi's
48:49
not far behind him. Like that guy's got so much potential as well.
48:53
This was kind of tough because just the mix of wrestlers they've thrown in there,
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because I'm like, man, you can know you could have wes Lee,
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Pinn, Joe Coffee, recapture the Rosbergen title and move Ova up to
49:05
main event level stuff. But I think right now I'm gonna take the safe
49:07
pick like you and kind of take Opa Fami to retain here, Shannon be
49:12
Basler takes on Lolavice in an XY underground match. Who do you like this
49:15
one? Doctor? Try? And this was tricky for me because you have
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the stuff going on with you know, Shana and Zoe on the main roster
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and their fewd now with sorry Appaarly Sammy does not like Shana Basler. You
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know, you have this still going to the main roster like cause you take
49:30
a loss here and did that effect he there? With with it being an
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NFC underground match, I know they're trying to get Lolovice over. For me,
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is just hard to pick against Shane Basler in this match unless there's some
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kind of you know, trickery or interferes or something going on there. I'm
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gonna take shanea get the win, even though my common sense would tell me
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Lola Ice, I'm gonna take Shannon Basler as well. I think the way
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that she's been built up going in this match, it would as you just
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said, as well make sense for like Lolovice to get the victory. I
49:59
just don't think that they want to do that yet, so that would really
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help out Lolovis's character. They're reminding everybody how dominant Shannon Bezler was, and
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she was one of the most dominant wrestlers in all of NXC history. But
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I'm going to take Shannon Bezler to get the victory here. Next match is
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Nathan Fraser and Axiom defending the NXC Tag Team Championship against the OC of Luke
50:19
Alis and Carl Anderson. This is a tough one to call, which is
50:23
wild because you have a main roster talent and an NXC talent, But I
50:27
am going to take the OC in this one. Doctor Trey. I feel
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like they're on the upswing from a creative standpoint. We saw them in the
50:32
final segment of SmackDown this past Friday with aj Styles and Cody Rhodes a Mark
50:37
Henry, and I think that carries over to the NXC show. So I'm
50:40
going to take the OCD become the new NXC Tag Team champions. Yeah,
50:45
with all the crossovers on shows and you know seeing you know, Jordan Grace
50:50
pop up with her title on you know NFC television. I mean, I
50:53
wouldn't be surprised to see you know, AJ standing with Gals and Anderson holding
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the nc tag titles. But I think I'm gonna I gotta like you're ahead
51:05
of me. I gotta pick against you every so often, So I'll take
51:07
Fraser and Axium to retain, uh, just to kind of be contrary because
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I can't agree with you on every single pick if I want to beat you
51:15
with the m of the year, so I'll take Fraser and Axium to get
51:17
the win. Next match here is rock Stane Perez defend the NXC Women's Championship
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against the TNA Knockouts Champ Women's Champion, which I never thought i'd say on
51:25
the show, Jordan Grace, Doctor Trey. This is a tough one to
51:29
call. Who do you like in this one? So we have to pick
51:31
a winner? Yeah, we do, we do. That is the rules
51:35
of this. Yes, it's tricky because I could see this going to like
51:37
a double disqualification or no contest, so that way nobody loses. But I
51:45
think I'm gonna I'm gonna take the the weird pick. I mean, I
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guess sound weird I'm gonna take Jordan Grace to get the win because I want
51:51
to see the NFC Women's Championship appear on Impact Wrestling, just to kind of
51:54
freak people out a little bit. So I'm gonna take Jordan Grace to get
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the win. Yeah, I'm gonna Jordan Grace as well. I thought it
52:01
was a crazy pick, but I think it's in the best interest of both
52:06
brands and this current relationship that she has the championship right now. I think
52:09
Roxane Perez beating her it's a retain, does nothing for anybody. So I'm
52:15
gonna take Jordan Grace to become the new NXC Women's Champion, a TNA contracted
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wrestler. Next match here is Trick Williams defending the NXC Championship against Ethan Page.
52:27
This is a tough one to call. I really wanted to pick Ethan
52:30
Page, but I'm gonna go with Trick Williams. He is super over and
52:34
I think it would be strange if they took the championship off of him already.
52:38
I was very tempted to pick Ethan Page because I think that would be
52:40
pretty historic and buzzworthy. I'm gonna take Trick Williams Doctor Trey. Yeah,
52:45
I think if Ethan Page had been on television for maybe just a little bit
52:51
longer, I could pick Ethan Page. But for this to really be his
52:54
first match in NXT is this title match makes it makes it hard for me
53:00
to pick him. So I'm gonna take Trick Williams to get the win.
53:04
But dear God, that the whole idea of a TNA Nexus type storyline to
53:07
close the show out would be pretty awesome, So I hope they kind of
53:10
do something like that because if you got like Josh Alexander and Moose and dear
53:15
God, how cool do you see Dolph Zigglers show up at the end of
53:19
the show to take out Trick Williams they former NC champion, that would be
53:22
pretty well. And this is where I do think somebody shows up. I
53:24
have Moose getting involved that are appearing at some point during this match. Yeah,
53:30
or and just to hear you know, Booker t in them called Dolph
53:34
Zigler nickname like that would make awesome for me. So yeah, but I'm
53:37
taking Trick to win. But I do think somebody from TNA gets involved postmatch
53:43
to kind of set something up for NXT t and A battles going forward,
53:47
so they go NC Battleground this Sunday. A lot of good buzz going around
53:52
heading into PLA. A lot of good stuff going on in NXC television last
53:54
couple of weeks, and this match is or excuse me, this entire PLA
54:00
is being hosted by Sexy Red, one of Doctor Trey's favorite rappers of all
54:02
time. So we'll be checking that out and then we'll also preview and predict
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we clash at the Castle all on next week's edition in the show. With
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there at Battleground, but I liked her better when she was restling on the
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Independence as the Amazing Red before she had her transition over to Sexy Red.
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Yeah, it happens to everybody. I mean, that's why they do Code
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Red all the time, is in honor of Sexy Red. So we will
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