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55. CURSE WEEK: The Ghosts of Griffith Park & El Demonio Negro · Amigos, Afraid!

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Welcome back to another episode of Amigos Afraid.
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This week, we're heading into Griffith Park to see what
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happens when a little Los Angeles history gets mixed with
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curses, ghosts and things that probably shouldn't be wandering
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around after dark. And I'll be diving into the
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history of Mexican Cryptid El Demonio Negro, a massive black
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shark allegedly living in the waters of the California Gulf.
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Plus, stick around to the end to hear a listener submitted story.
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Hope you enjoy. back.
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Hey, hey, you. Are you afraid?
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Are you a? Friend, then you've come to the
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right place. I don't know if I'm scared or
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turned on. Welcome back everyone.
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Hello, welcome back to Amigos Afraid.
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I'm Brian. I'm Brian.
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He's Jerry. And this is our podcast, Happy
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Thursday. Happy Thursday.
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We're excited you're back. It has been.
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It's been a ride. I'll get into that later.
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Oh, OK, you're dropping little hints of something.
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I see. It's just us today.
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If you fell in love with Jose, I'm so sorry he's not coming
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back. He did not sign papers to come
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back to the next. Meeting He didn't renew his
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contract. No, it was just a welcome day.
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Like bring a friend, my friends and family and he didn't sign up
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for the indefinite a a meeting. Subscription.
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Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's cool. I mean, he can always come back.
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And as of right now, thank you, Jose for stopping by last week.
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That was super fun. I hope you all enjoyed that
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episode. If you haven't checked it out,
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please go back and check out our campfire combo slash campfire
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confessions. They were super, super good.
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He's super funny. And he inspired our listeners
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because we have a story submission that we will be
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reading at the end of the episode.
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I can't wait. Me either, I haven't read it
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other than just like the first line and I'm excited.
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No way, I I'm looking at it. No, don't look.
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I can't read from here, so you're good.
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Jerry can't read. I can't read from here.
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From here I'm I'm just this spot I can't read.
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Like from where you're at emotionally, I understand.
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And and physically I I can't make out the words.
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So. How are you, Brian?
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How's how's it going? I'm good.
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I've had a very like just chill couple days.
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OK, OK. And.
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That's good. Yeah, I can't complain.
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You know, work. How?
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Have you been? I'm I'm tired.
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I'm tired. It's been a long couple days.
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I'm super excited for another concert I'm going to on Sunday.
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Oh, really? Yeah, we're going to.
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Go watch the sword, Matt, myself and French are going to go watch
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the sword and redfing. Yeah, So pretty exciting.
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Pretty exciting stuff. OK concert.
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Boy, I know. Who am I?
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I know. That's a lot of what's it
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called, the harmful decibels for years at my age.
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Or at the age that we should go to the club with earplugs or
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concerts specifically. I'll have them in my pocket just
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in case. I took them to Coachella last
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year and I I was fine. And I felt great the next
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morning. I didn't feel like I was hollow
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inside. My tinnitus don't know her, she
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wasn't there. She wasn't invited to while no,
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it I think they're necessary. They they come in clutch and I
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agree. Like you don't feel the after
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effects the next day where you're kind of like, damn, like
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something's off. You just blew out your eardrum
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is all. I went out with Jesse and Eli on
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Friday and I think Jesse had earplugs in and I'm like, damn,
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that's smart, he said. Yeah, keep some on him.
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Mm hmm. Keep those things on me.
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Gotta. Stay obviously strapped up, but
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that's not a strap. No, gotta stay plugged up.
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Yes, Jerry, yes, with. Earplugs with earplugs.
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Yeah, everyone plugged up 2026, Jerry said.
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So. Especially at concerts, you want
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to take your earplugs. Go to your concerts plugged.
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Yep, go to the bar plugged. I mean if you need earplugs at
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the bar, dog plugged, if there's a lot of car traffic I could
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understand the sounds of freeways.
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Could be pretty harmless. Plugs on you, one for you and
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one for a friend. Damn friend, do you do anything
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exciting over the weekend? Aside from going out at a family
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party on Saturday, which is cute but genuinely highlight of my
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weekend. You were there.
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I was. We went antiquing with the
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intention of finding the most haunted items.
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You know, now that you mention it, I do remember walking down a
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hallway of antiques, but then I just blacked out.
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Oh well, luckily it's all on video for you to remember.
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Guys, check out our TikTok. We've logged the experience.
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It was super, super fun. And yes, we got some spikes.
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That's all I'll say. Aggressive spikes right at the
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end. Right at the end, it was a
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perfect sound off to to end our antiquing paranormal
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investigation. It was really good, guys.
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It was good enough to send me running out of that building
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because when it was hot Two, there is no reason dolls should
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be peaking at five points on the EMF.
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It is pretty random like and not just like that, but like that
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whole corner. And no, there was no like surge
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or electrical energy happening that was messing with.
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I waved that thing around me. Yep, it was only on that doll
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and the other doll. And the other doll protect the
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dolls, but not these. Not the.
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Not these, not the not yeah, no, yeah, for that was super fun if
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you're ever in the downtown Pomona area.
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It's called Antique Row. There's a bunch of just antique
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stores. They have some pretty cool
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stuff. Another fun thing we saw that
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weekend, we ran into a show set of Fallout.
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Yeah, which is? Pretty cool Fallout season 3 in
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downtown Pomona. They completely made over the
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Fox Theater and it made it look like the Salt Lake City Theater.
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Yeah, it was pretty cool. Never seen the show, now I want
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to. Same.
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I mean, at the end of the day that's also like free promo.
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There was a bunch of people just parking in their cars to go see
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what was going on. Yep.
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Cheese muscles me. Yeah, we parked us.
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Which by the way, I don't know if you've seen any videos since
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then. Apparently I already figured out
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his name. Like the main guy, he was in
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White Lotus. He's got like a long medium
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hair. No idea.
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He plays one of the main characters in Fallout I guess.
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Sure. I forgot his name.
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But anyways, he approached the fans after recording or
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something and he, like, you know, said what's up and he said
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a little fan did a little fan service moment.
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So it was pretty cool. I think I saw that.
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I just didn't know who that actor was, and I'll never know.
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Yeah, I forget his name. He's cool.
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I think. Only seen him in White Lotus.
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That's my only frame of reference.
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Cool. I mean, anything else you just
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chill. I do want to give a shout out to
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someone who does not need one because they have so many
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followers already. I came across a tik toker who I
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absolutely fell in love with because her whole bit is that
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she's telling ghost stories outside in her garden at night.
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The ambience, beautiful. You just hear all like the
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crickets, the cicadas. It's just the perfect mood to be
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listening to scary ghost stories.
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Her name is Riley, her account is Ghost in the Garden.
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I think she lives out in the Midwest somewhere.
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And what got me is that she was reading ghost stories about
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Appalachian areas. OK.
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And I was like, Oh my God, is she in the Appalachian Mountains
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right now? She's not.
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So I felt safe for. Her cool, cool, cool, cool.
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Because otherwise that's so scary, you can't be doing that.
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I wouldn't. And that's it.
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That's all I wanted to shout out.
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That's fun. You did show me a video.
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It sounded really cool. I do like her how she starts off
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kind of setting it up and then it's like, wow, this is this
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feels very. Like, homey, yeah, she says.
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Grab a cup of something. When it comes to down, it's very
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like chill ASMR kind of. Yeah, that's fun.
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I wish I had a garden so I could say ghost stories, but I don't.
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Nope, we just have like the freeway outside I.
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Have a patio that's I guess paved?
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Yeah. And a lot of neighbors around
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me. You could put 11 plant out there
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and that's your garden. That's my garden.
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I mean, that's true. What?
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What constitutes a garden? I think more than one plant.
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Get 2 plants there and a couple seeds.
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You don't have to plant them, just have a seed pack out there.
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Just oh, just like not even open, just on the table.
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Hey guys, look, I'm going to start a garden.
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Yeah, it's like, no planter boxes, eh?
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Nope. But I'm ready.
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Well, that's it for me. Nice.
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So let me go. What haunted you this week?
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You don't like that sticker. Sometimes you're just walking in
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the street and it just happens to stick perfectly under your
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shoe. So then you're walking and then
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you feel like the sticker, like there's like an object dragging
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and you're like, that doesn't feel right.
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And then you look down, you're like, oh, I have a sticker on my
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shoe and it's impossible to get off.
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Whoa, yeah, I've never had it impossible to take off.
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What's like really tough because like it's like really on there,
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whatever adhesive is like some top quality adhesive that glue
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is sticking pretty tough to get off your shoes.
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So that kind of haunted me this week.
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But no, today the outdoors haunted me.
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You're just talking about ghost stories in the garden.
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That's what I'm saying and I'm going to take you with me on a
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stroll through a park. Right now I thought we were
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recording. No, we're going to we're going
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to put our mics down and we're going to go take a stroll at a
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famous park. Park that's pretty close to us.
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What? Park.
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Griffith. Brian, what if I told you that
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one of the biggest parks in LA is supposedly cursed because a
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teenage girl was pissed off about her inheritance?
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Wow, imagine if you told me that.
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Imagine, just just imagine what if, What if?
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I don't mean someone just got bad vibes at a park one night.
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I'm talking about a curse that allegedly goes back to 1863
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involving A deathbed. Will a blind 17 year old girl?
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A land dispute? Several suspicious deaths?
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A woman in white? A haunted picnic table.
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Oh my God, this list doesn't stop.
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And even a ghost who apparently showed off to a party just to
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invite everyone to hell. I'm over stimulated.
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Do you want to go to the park now?
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No, I want to stay right here. Fine, I'll keep telling you
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about the story and we'll come back.
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Before Griffith Park was Griffith Park, the land was
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Rancho Los Feliz. This is where the story of Dona
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Petronilla begins. According to the historical
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accounts collected by UCLA and the Los Angeles Almanac, Don
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Antonio Feliz owned the Rancho Los Feliz in the 19th century,
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living with him where his sister Soledad and his teenage niece
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Dona Petronilla. She's a niece, but she's the
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Dona. She's already a dona.
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Dang. Old soul Petronilla is described
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in these accounts as blind. In 1863, Don Antonio Feliz
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became seriously ill with smallpox and was dying.
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While he was in his deathbed, a will was drawn up that left most
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of his property to Don Antonio Coronel, a former mayor of Los
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Angeles, OK, who would later become California State
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Treasurer. Petronilla.
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She got nothing. The story even gets messier
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because the will has long been surrounded by accusations that
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Coronel and his lawyer, Don Inocante, took advantage of
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Felice while he was dying. The Los Angeles Almanac is very
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clear that this park belongs in the category of legend and
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folklore. But the story became part of
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mythology surrounding the land, and according to the legend,
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Petronilla was furious. She supposedly cursed the land.
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Coronel, the lawyer and even the judge who upheld the will.
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Dang, she said. I'm gonna get everyone.
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The curse essentially promised that nobody would prosper from
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the property and that the people responsible would meet violent
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or untimely ends. After the will had settled,
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things allegedly started going very badly for the people
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connected to Rancho Los Feliz. Don Inocante, the lawyer
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involved in the will, was later shot and killed.
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Oh, he had to come in. Charles V Howard, another owner
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of the property, was supposedly shot and killed.
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Oh my God, he got it coming too. Leon Lucky Baldwin suffered
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major losses involving his cattle and crops and eventually
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had to sell the property to pay his mortgage.
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Doesn't seem that lucky. That seems pretty unlucky to me,
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right? I'm sorry you read that.
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Word for word, that's amazing. Then there was Thomas Bell, a
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San Francisco financer who briefly owned the land.
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He later died after falling down the stairs at his mansion in
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Sonoma County. Dang, this girl put in work on
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his curds. She said I'm giving it my all
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and they got all my time. According to the Los Angeles
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Almanac, there was even an allegation that he had been
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pushed by a mistress. And then we get to the man whose
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name would eventually become permanently attached to the
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park, Griffith J Griffith. What his first name and his last
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name are the same? Sounds like a movie villain,
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yeah. Well.
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Griffith bought the land in 1882, and according to the
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folklore, the curse wasn't done with him.
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He tried to run an ostrich farm on the property.
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It flopped. He later was nearly killed when
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a disgruntled tenant shot at him.
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And according to Creepy LA, Griffith eventually became so
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aware of the strange stories surrounding the property that he
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was set to only visit the land during the daytime.
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He was just scared. He's like, I'm not going there
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at. Night.
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Wait, wait. I'm lost.
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I'm lost. You said he got shot.
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He survived. He was, or did I imagine, shot
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at him. Oh, someone shot at him.
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They missed. Yeah, they missed terrible
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little lucky. Yeah, terrible tenants, terrible
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aim. Here's my first question.
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OK, actual first question. If you're Griffith the man and
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you hear, hey, this property might be cursed and everyone who
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owns it keeps having horrible things happen to them, do you
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stay? Or do you sell?
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You know, I think I'd sell just because I don't want to risk it.
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Once is random. 2 That was a little strange.
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Three times. No, it's no longer coincidence.
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That's intentional. Yeah, I agree with you.
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I think I'm going to be selling too.
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I'm not going to put up with that.
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Just OK, multiple people. And there's possibly a list
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around that time that says Yep, shot, shot, killed.
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On this property, on this property, I'd sell it, buy
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something smaller somewhere else.
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Maybe a smaller park, Maybe a smaller plot of land?
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Ostrich Farm. Yeah, no, that's like up in the
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mountains. Why are you having ostriches up
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in the mountains? I don't know, up in the hills.
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Apparently there, that's what the people want.
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I don't even know if it's the hills, I just remember going up
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1 hill. It's one big hill.
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It's it's. Near the mountain near the the
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I. Don't know either.
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Jerry's never. I've never been.
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I've only been like 6 times. Griffith's life really did take
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a bizarre turn. But we don't have to blame a
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ghost for everything. In 19 O3, Griffith shot his
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wife. Mary Agnes Christina Mesmer
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while the two were staying at a hotel in Santa Monica.
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She survived. Griffith was convicted of
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attempted murder and sentenced to San Quentin.
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The Los Angeles Almanac notes that during the trial, his wife
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testified that Griffith secretly drank alcohol and suffered from
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paranoid delusions. Despite his public reputation as
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someone who didn't drink. Oh my God, he was telling people
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he was sober. So there's a very real
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historical explanation for what happened.
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But if you're a person living in LA in 19 O 3 and you already
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believe this property is cursed. You're.
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Probably looking at Griffith and going Yeah, Petronia got another
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one. Yeah, she did.
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It's 'cause he didn't get killed.
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He he's he dodged. He dodged a bullet, yeah.
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In 1896, Griffith had already donated most of the remaining
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3012 acres of Rancho Los Feliz to the city of Los Angeles to
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become a public park. Donated.
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Allegedly. OK, so the property that
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supposedly couldn't bring its owners good fortune eventually
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became one of the most famous public parks in the city, and
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the name Stuck Griffith Park. Well, it's his first and his
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last name. They had no other.
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They had no option. They had.
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Two options, and they were both the same name.
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This is where Griffith Park stops becoming just an old land
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dispute and starts becoming a full paranormal buffet.
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Because according to the legends, the ghosts of the
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people connected to the ranch never left.
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The most frequently reported is Sonia Petronilla herself.
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But she's blind. She's described as a young woman
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wearing a white dress, very original.
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Sometimes she's riding a White Horse, which is pretty cool.
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OK, spectral sidekick. Yeah, white dress, White Horse
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white. Boots.
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White man probably right, Griffith.
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Yeah. Sometimes she's riding a White
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Horse, and one of those places associated with her is the old
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Rancho Los Feliz Adobe, considered one of the oldest
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remaining structure in Griffith Park.
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Wow. According to Creepy LA, she's
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been reported around the Adobe at night, sometimes appearing
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through its windows. That's pretty creepy location in
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my opinion for a ghost because the Adobe isn't something random
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like a haunted house that's put up for like Halloween Shaktober,
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but it's like an actual part of the history of the land.
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So I think it's even creepier that it's it has a tie to the
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supposed. It makes a lot of sense in my
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mind. If it's the oldest building
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there, she was probably, she was probably there in her life,
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right? Brian, imagine you're walking
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through the Griffith Park at night and you see a woman in a
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white dress riding a White Horse.
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Are you investigating? I'm going to yell Yes, Mother
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Woo, you're slagging. Well, I'm not going to know
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she's a Tonia. I mean, you probably know it's
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her now. Oh now I know, but if it was
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just a random girl serving cunt on a horse like what's up queen?
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Also, why am I here at 2:00? In the morning, can I get a
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ride? Can I get where are we going?
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You want to go to the club. According to the account cited
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by Creepy LA, the ghost of Felice supposedly appeared at a
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party in 1896 celebrating Griffith's transfer of land to
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the city. Imagine you're at a celebration,
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you're drinking, you're partying, having a good time.
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The land is officially being transferred, and then the dead
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former owner of the property walks into the room.
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He takes a seat that was usually reserved for Griffith and
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supposedly announced I come to invite you to dine with me in
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hell and apparently had brought an escort of sub demons.
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The lights suddenly go out, gongs and cymbals start
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sounding. You're lying.
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And everyone starts running. That sounds like a pretty good
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entertainment act in my opinion. What if it was just a hoax and
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like people? Someone hired like this whole
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concept of a spirit walking with some demons in full makeup and
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stuff. I was going to ask what kind of
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drugs they were doing in the late 90s because.
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I mean. Someone spiked the punch. 1896
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was a wild time. That's all I got to say.
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Absinthe. I thought you said it was 96.
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189600, not 1990. I was like, oh, maybe it was
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like cocaine or something, but no, 1896, oh, maybe, oh, I don't
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know who put absent in the punch?
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So now we have a picnic table. I need to find the exact
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location because then that would be a cool place to visit.
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You're driving. But according to this legend, in
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1976, now we're in the 19. Oh, good. 1976, a young couple
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was sitting at a picnic table in the park when a tree fell on
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them, squishing them. That's already tragic, but the
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story gets a little darker. Workers were supposedly brought
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in to remove the fallen tree, and according to the legend, one
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worker after another became sick or injured.
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Eventually, a supervisor was reportedly found dead at the
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scene from a heart attack. The story was later dismissed as
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a hoax, but the legend stuck. People have continued claiming
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to see a ghostly couple around the location, and some
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paranormal enthusiasts have even made trips specifically hoping
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to experience the couple. Whoa, they're can I be your
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third? They're looking for a spectral
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3rd. I'm looking for a couple.
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Like you guys you guys dad about you guys down for like a living
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third. You guys look like you're down
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for a good time. Now there's a creature.
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So now we're getting into like the little side stories of
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Griffith Park. I did not know there was so many
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layers in this place. So many and some of them are
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connected, but some of these are just like Griffith Park legends.
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Apparently Griffith Park wasn't satisfied with ghosts.
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It needed a monster. Greedy.
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Several ports of something strange roaming the park appear.
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As early as 2005, three men allegedly encountered a creature
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with green skin and red hair. It was a Hulk.
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He was going through a experimental experimental red
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hair face. According to this account, the
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creature had extremely long legs and feet, a long neck, black
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eyes with visible whites, and a body posture that reportedly
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looked nothing like a human. The men supposedly drew what
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they saw separately, and the drawings were said to have
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similarities. Now, obviously we're deep into
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folklore territory here. There's no confirmed evidence
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that a creature like this lives in Griffith Park.
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There's also the old Griffith Park Zoo.
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I'm sure you've seen images and videos of people exploring the.
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Abandoned zoo. Yes, Yes.
22:48
Yes, yes, yes. So this one has a very different
22:50
kind of darkness because there's some actual history behind why
22:53
people find this place unsettling.
22:55
The zoo opened up in the early 20th century and eventually
22:58
closed in 1966, leaving behind abandoned animal enclosures and
23:02
structures. There's an account from one of
23:04
the sources from a pet psychic, Laurie Stinchfield.
23:08
We were just saying how I believe in pet psychics.
23:12
Who visited the old zoo grounds with a film crew.
23:15
She reportedly became physically nauseous and described visions
23:18
of suffering animals, including big cats, elephants, a monkey,
23:22
and a Komodo dragon. Now, we're obviously not
23:25
presenting A psychic visions as historical evidence.
23:29
However, the reason the old zoob remains creepy is pretty easy to
23:33
understand without the supernatural.
23:35
You can only imagine like how an abandoned zoo with animals like
23:39
what that distress could have looked like at that time.
23:41
Just like empty cages as you walk around.
23:44
Just feeling that energy. So that I'm sure is super valid
23:47
for someone that is an empathor. So this is where I think
23:49
Griffith Park gets really interesting because if you take
23:52
the curse literally, I know it's like, now it's.
23:54
Like this? This Barely now, yeah.
23:57
Barely. Now it's interesting.
23:59
If you take the curse literally, you have a teenage girl who
24:01
supposedly cursed the property in 1863, followed by generations
24:06
of deaths, financial disasters, violence, fires, ghost sightings
24:11
and strange encounters. But if you step back, there's
24:14
another explanation. Griffith Park is enormous.
24:18
It's more than 4000 acres of rugged terrain inside one of the
24:21
largest cities in the US People have lived there, died there,
24:25
committed crimes, gotten lost, and wandered around there at
24:29
night for more than a century. Creepy LA even points out that
24:34
LA has had plenty of mundane explanations for the park's
24:37
tragedies and strange encounters.
24:39
And the Los Angeles Almanac itself makes the distinction
24:43
that much of the curse story is folklore rather than established
24:46
history. While there's some people
24:49
property history deaths in Griffith's criminal history
24:52
that's documented. The UCLA source is especially
24:55
useful because it points out that her story preserves part of
24:58
the Mexican history of the land that existed before Griffith
25:00
Park became the place Angelino's not today.
25:04
Wow, I did not know any of that existed.
25:07
I went, I think right out of high school to the observatory
25:10
on the mountain. So I don't really think I've
25:13
fully experienced Griffith Park. Wow, that's only like a fraction
25:16
I. I thought that was the whole
25:17
thing. So when you're telling me it's
25:19
40,000 acres, I'm like, where? It's all it's around.
25:23
The park itself is like pretty long that then goes up and
25:25
stuff, but then it's just like trails that just go all around
25:28
the park. You see, I don't do trails.
25:31
Yeah. So maybe that's why I will never
25:33
experience Tonya P. Yeah, there's there's another
25:37
story I forgot to mention. It was about the Hollywood sign.
25:40
Apparently there was a recorded death there of a lady who jumped
25:43
off and unaligned herself, jumping off the Hollywood back
25:46
when it was Hollywood Land, which was the original Hollywood
25:50
sign. It wasn't just Hollywood.
25:52
Is that Hollywood land? Whoa, I would have never known
25:55
Hollywood land was a thing. Yeah, I didn't mention the
25:58
story. Once again, I didn't have a lot
25:59
of sources on that, so I didn't want to include it.
26:02
But there's also that story connected to the Hollywood,
26:04
which is right next to Griffith Park.
26:05
It's all connected. It's very scary.
26:08
I want to go back. I want to go find these
26:10
locations a specific bench. I'd be down to go find the the
26:13
couple's bench. I love a couple.
26:16
We go find the bench, we take our EMF and we do some Estes
26:22
there. Oh, I'd be down.
26:23
And then we walk over to the. Is it open at night?
26:27
I think it closes. I mean, I'm sure you can walk
26:29
through the park, but I'm pretty sure the park closes at a sort
26:31
of point. And then we go to the Adobe
26:33
house to just say what's up around the windows.
26:36
We do a seance. I'm kidding.
26:38
And we get a sandwich. And we get a.
26:39
At some point we get a sandwich. We get a sandwich at the Italian
26:42
place that we've been wanting to go.
26:44
You read my mind. So we take our Italian sandwich,
26:47
Yep, to the bench. Yep, offer it to Donya P.
26:51
Yes, as an offering, we'll pour some out.
26:53
Yep. Pour some lettuce.
26:56
Out or oh, maybe not the lettuce.
26:58
No, it's fine now I think. Is it?
27:00
I don't know. They don't have stomachs.
27:02
And then we give some for the horse.
27:05
Yes, and we pour one out. We'll pour out some absinthe.
27:08
Yeah, for Ellon. Ellon, but also one for Jackie.
27:14
I'm sorry y'all, we have to. Pour one out.
27:18
For our beautiful mother, Jackie the Eagle.
27:20
Remind me? That was the first thing I saw
27:24
this morning. I saw that last.
27:26
Night, I don't know why it normally I've been getting
27:29
updates like on Instagram LC yeah, but I didn't get any last
27:33
night. I think they wanted to protect
27:35
me. Yeah, dude, so much has
27:36
happened. Like just with them.
27:39
Like their nest got blown over and the chicks fell.
27:41
One of them fell off and there's like.
27:42
Circle of Life. Jerry texted that this morning
27:49
when we mentioned it in the group chat.
27:50
So I was just singing it to myself in the kitchen, and my
27:53
supervisor's like, what are you doing?
27:54
I'm like, Jackie died. Yeah.
27:57
The Circle of Life. Mm, Hmm.
27:59
Mm hmm, those are the only lyrics I know to that song.
28:04
And he moved. Us all.
28:05
And she's like, wait, they do that.
28:06
They sing that when he gets born, like but one day he'll
28:09
die. Also, that's not true.
28:16
There's that edit where they're they're at the rock, Pride Rock,
28:18
and then they fling Zimba like it's, it's obviously an edit,
28:22
but I mean, hey, birth and death.
28:25
They both and with TH and I think that means something.
28:29
Yup. Yup.
28:30
Mm hmm. So tell me, friend, what haunted
28:36
you this week? This week I'm haunted by the
28:40
ocean and the massive creature that's lying in wait that has
28:44
terrorized the shores of Baja California for generations.
28:51
I'm leaving. Have you ever heard of El the
28:54
Mono Negro? No.
28:57
OK, maybe in English. The Black Demon.
29:00
No. OK, good.
29:02
I'm glad I'm here to tell you all about it, because I had
29:05
never heard about it until last week.
29:07
Cool, cool, cool. Allegedly, El Demonio Negro is a
29:11
massive pitch black shark that has survived in the Gulf of
29:15
California for centuries. What?
29:18
Stories of this monster have been passed down orally for
29:21
generations, making it a stand out Cryptid in Mexican folklore.
29:24
I don't know if you grew up watching the Discovery Channel
29:27
like I did, but I remember Shark Week like it was freaking
29:30
yesterday. Every year, for one week a year,
29:34
the Discovery Channel was all sharks all the time.
29:36
Yep, I do remember that. I had no business watching any
29:41
of that in my formative years because it gave me a massive
29:44
fear of sharks. Yes, the ocean scares me.
29:48
Not nearly as much as it scares Jerry, but the main source of
29:52
that fear is coming across a shark.
29:54
OK, I read somewhere that because we're on the verge of
29:57
what's shaping up to be a very strong El Nino season, that the
30:01
water temperatures have gone up, which has led to sharks swimming
30:05
closer to the shore. Is that because it's colder or
30:09
is that because it's even warmer?
30:11
I think because it's warmer, they're more willing to like get
30:15
closer to the shore for some reason.
30:16
Or maybe it has something to do with the seals.
30:19
OK, maybe the seals are having a good time in the sun.
30:22
Yeah, it's a perfect like seal temperature to eat.
30:24
Yeah, yeah, they're nice and roasted.
30:26
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why I refuse to swim
30:28
in the ocean. That and because I'm a terrible
30:31
swimmer. But mostly the sharks.
30:32
Mostly. Did you hear about the most
30:35
recent shark attack? No I have not.
30:38
Was it like 3 years ago? No what?
30:41
Well, the most recent shark attack on the Pacific Coast in
30:44
the US was the case of Erica Fox, who was a 55 year old
30:49
triathlon athlete who was mauled by a shark in December of 2025.
30:55
OK, so not too long ago. Less than a year ago, and
30:58
according to People magazine, her autopsy confirmed that the
31:01
athlete suffered a singular fatal bite.
31:04
She had tooth wounds from her knees up to her abdomen.
31:08
Wow. And this lady was leading a swim
31:12
class like she was a athlete. Swimming was her thing.
31:16
And the story goes that they went in for a swim.
31:20
Everyone came back. Mine is her.
31:23
Wow. And I guess a witness, someone
31:25
who was at the beach, had told authorities that they had seen
31:30
someone in the mouth of a shark. What?
31:34
That's so sad. So imagine how big that bite is
31:37
from your knees up to your torso.
31:40
That was a sizable mouth, and that was done by a regular
31:44
shark. We know what their mouth do.
31:47
A typical great white shark averages 15 to 16 feet in
31:51
length. Wow.
31:53
According to legend, El Limonio Negro is described as being a
31:56
260 feet long. Sorry, man, I'm going to
31:59
interrupt you real quick. So I was already kind of like,
32:02
like this is all scary and Pan makes me panic and stuff and I'm
32:05
just like, wow, this is just about sharks.
32:07
We haven't even talked about the El Limonio Negro.
32:08
That was just a general. I think it was a great white
32:11
shark that, yeah, killed that Lady, yeah.
32:13
I mean, if it's in Baja, I know that they're very common in
32:17
Baja. Oh.
32:18
Very, very common. Yeah, 15 feet. 15 to 17.
32:22
No, I think 1515 to 1615 to 16, yes, maybe they're 17, really
32:26
big compared to 60 feet long and able to swallow entire groups of
32:33
sea lions in one massive bite. It is commonly compared to the
32:37
length of a school bus that's like three times the size of a
32:40
regular Honda Accord. So if you drive a Honda Accord,
32:45
now you have a point of reference.
32:46
Three of them, nose to tail. Wow, nut to butt question, do
32:51
you know how long your Subaru is?
32:54
Damn, that's why you asked me that.
32:55
I thought you were kidding. Oh my God, no, it's genuine.
32:59
I was hoping that you would Google it.
33:00
I wanna know. Ren, I thought you were kidding.
33:05
No, I'm not kidding. I read that.
33:06
I'm like I. Saw that you reacted to that
33:08
message with a laughing emoji and I'm like, yeah, it's really
33:12
funny, but it's serious. I need to know.
33:16
Apparently my Subaru is approximately 15.99 feet.
33:22
OK, imagine I think also like three of those to make it like
33:27
45, almost 50 feet because it's it's described between 50 and
33:30
60. Damn.
33:32
And I you would think you drive a pretty big car, right?
33:35
I do I I I think it's pretty long.
33:36
To be and now add 2 more and that's the length at minimum of
33:42
what this black demon is said to be.
33:45
That's insane. So many questions.
33:48
So there has never been any photographic evidence of the
33:50
black demon. All sightings have been from
33:52
eyewitnesses out at sea. And these alleged eyewitness
33:55
statements tend to come from fishermen native to the Gulf of
33:58
California, which borders the Mexican states of Sonora,
34:00
Sinaloa and top of Mexican tourist destination Cabo San
34:05
Lucas. Never been.
34:07
Me neither. That's a privileged vacation.
34:11
Next time y'all go vacationing, maybe keep this in mind when
34:14
you're out boating and sipping margaritas 'cause it could be
34:17
your last. Wow.
34:18
So what does a black demon sighting look like?
34:21
First, fishermen see a large shadow along the horizon just
34:26
under the water surface, growing rapidly.
34:29
Second, they hear a massive roar that rumbles the entire ocean,
34:34
causing waves to crash against the sides of the boat, sending
34:37
it rocking back and forth. If you're lucky, you won't see
34:41
the endless rows of teeth. Hundreds, maybe thousands of
34:45
them. Just be in the belly.
34:46
What it doesn't destroy with its terrifying jaw, it snaps in half
34:50
with the strength of its tail. So it uses its tail to whip?
34:54
Is that where orcas learned? That maneuver, maybe because
34:57
there's theories incoming, Jerry, just you wait.
35:02
According to sharkophile.com, the most significant sighting
35:05
came from American sport fisherman Eric Mack.
35:08
According to Mr. Mack, he witnessed a massive creature
35:11
matching at the Mono Negros descriptions in like late 2008.
35:16
He estimated the monster to be about 50 feet long with an
35:18
enormous tail that rocked his boat violently when it swung at
35:21
him. His claims LED a television crew
35:24
from the series Monster Quest to investigate the area.
35:27
Squared up with a shark, who would have.
35:29
Thought I know and he lived to tell the tale and he was telling
35:32
everyone. Wow, I would too.
35:34
So this Monster Quest TV show, they came.
35:36
They said we're going to do an investigation.
35:38
They set up right off the coast and waited, Waited.
35:44
Nothing. I have no idea how you draw out
35:47
the the Mono Negro. I guess they didn't know either
35:50
because they didn't find anything.
35:52
Like Boo boy who cried wolf. Well, he still put out the
35:56
episode. They're like were haunting for
35:58
the black demon. It's like those episodes that
36:01
are super, super dramatic and there's always something that's
36:04
going to happen right before the commercial break and at the end
36:06
of the episode. Literally nothing like it.
36:08
But one day we'll find. This.
36:10
Black Shark. For Bigfoot up in the the
36:13
Redwood forest. So yeah, they didn't find
36:17
anything. OK.
36:19
Maybe they. Got lucky by not coming across
36:21
it. Prior sightings from local
36:23
fishermen and oil riggers describe the monster as being
36:26
extremely violent. Throughout history, many sailors
36:29
have tried to find the demon, hoping to slay the giant of the
36:32
ocean. Most have returned empty handed,
36:35
but some don't return at all. Were they lost at sea, or were
36:39
they gobbled up by Alimonyo Negro itself?
36:42
So what is the Black demon really?
36:45
You're into dinosaurs, Yeah. And prehistoric animals, Yeah.
36:48
Do you know anything about the megalodon?
36:52
Big shock. Massive shock.
36:56
Huge. Massive.
36:58
Bigger than yours? Never been bigger.
37:02
Was that a Donald Trump I tried? That was really like I heard it.
37:07
I don't want to commit to it. Becoming good because I don't
37:09
want that in my wheelhouse. I was going to say that to be
37:11
like Fred. I was like.
37:12
You were get you were there like you're you're knocking at the
37:14
door because I wasn't doing the the hand.
37:16
Motion. Yeah, yeah.
37:16
But the little but I also. Don't want you to do it.
37:18
So at the same time, I'm like, I'll stick to my impressions.
37:21
Of Michael Jackson and what was the other one?
37:24
At Paris Hilton. At Paris Hilton.
37:28
Which I will not be showing off today.
37:32
Megalodon I. Don't remember the specific
37:34
length. I'm not going to lie and say I
37:37
do, but I mean. So much bigger than any.
37:43
Current. Great white shark.
37:44
Ever recorded? Well, luckily I have a fact
37:46
sheet. Interesting, yes.
37:48
So the megalodon. Is the largest species of shark
37:50
to have ever existed. It's body is made almost
37:54
entirely of cartilage instead of bone.
37:56
That alone makes it almost impossible to fossilize because
38:01
we only really know about it based on teeth.
38:04
Finding teeth at the bottom of the ocean and then two scale
38:08
figuring out what kind of fish can hold a tooth this big.
38:13
Yeah. Does that include jaw like jaws?
38:15
And teeth, I think it's. It was teeth.
38:18
No, I didn't say anything about jaw.
38:19
And I think part of the spine and their poop.
38:23
What? Because their poop gets
38:24
fossilized, but not their body. But not their body cartilage.
38:28
Yeah, their poop makes. Sense, OK.
38:30
The teeth alone are. Over 7 inches tall, which?
38:34
Compared to other things. Is massive and they lived in
38:38
most parts of the ocean. The only place that they were
38:40
have not been found is near the poles.
38:42
OK, they don't vote. Or.
38:46
Dance. So is the Black Demon a
38:50
megalodon? I'm gonna say yes.
38:54
I'm gonna, I'm gonna say maybe it's.
38:56
The last remaining I don't know, I hope I.
39:00
Hope that would. Be cool they found Stranger
39:02
Things in. The ocean stuff that they
39:04
thought were extinct. They found the show in the.
39:06
Ocean. Oh my God.
39:08
I don't think it's a megalodon. Researchers believe that they
39:12
went. Extinct about 3.6 million years
39:14
ago. That's like. 2 human years.
39:18
Oh OK. Could an entire species?
39:20
Have survived those millions of years.
39:23
Maybe there is a small portion of the scientific community that
39:26
believes that the megalodon could date back to as recently
39:29
as 10,000 years ago. That's much closer than three.
39:34
Point something million. That's what I'm saying.
39:37
Could an? Identified shark.
39:38
Breed Have some sort of mutation or disease that causes a regular
39:41
shark to triple in size and change its coloring?
39:44
Other scientists think so why not?
39:46
Whatever it is, the idea of a shark bigger than a school bus
39:49
leaves a terrifying image in your brain.
39:53
As I mentioned earlier, a whole TV.
39:54
Episode was made about it. There's also a movie that came
39:57
out in 2023 based on the story and it's called The Black Demon.
40:01
Really. I've never seen it, neither have
40:03
I, but that sounds. Cool.
40:04
I want to and it's all about this.
40:07
From what I read out the description, a group of like
40:11
adventurers go to try and find it or something and then they're
40:14
just very Jaws. They're just followed by this
40:16
giant shark. Shark What's?
40:20
Real interesting. Is that there is very limited
40:23
documentation about this alleged demon prior to these projects.
40:27
And I'm not the only one who noticed that on the subreddit.
40:31
R slash sharks user Iron Town Pictures asked if anyone had any
40:35
information about sightings prior to the movie and to the
40:38
2009 Monster Quest TV episode. Not a lot turned up, and I'd
40:42
like to think that there's a lot of shark professionals on R
40:45
slash sharks. Yeah, especially on Reddit.
40:47
Like, you know, there's a lot of shark experts.
40:49
Yeah. And there's silence.
40:51
Or raises some red flags, I agree.
40:54
There is no reporting of any. Attacks by a giant black shark
40:57
in any modern day publication. There is also no physical
41:00
evidence either. Skeptics believe that it's most
41:03
likely a case of mistaken identity.
41:05
What do you think they're mistaking for a shark, I mean.
41:11
Like I mentioned, I think the the next.
41:12
Biggest thing would possibly be an Orca, which is bigger in
41:15
size. I'm going to stick to that.
41:16
So let's go with Orca locking in my answer.
41:19
He's locked in. Whales.
41:22
Are known to swim. Through the same areas of the
41:24
California Gulf, humans are also no strangers to exaggeration
41:29
with ever retelling. Maybe the dramatics kicked in.
41:32
I'm guilty of doing this. Sometimes you just stretch the
41:36
details a little bit to kind of validate the fear.
41:39
I agree. Let's say hypothetically.
41:42
I. Came into some money.
41:45
I'm in Cabo for now. OK.
41:46
Yeah, yeah, for now. Hypothetically.
41:49
I'm a few marks deep and I am on my solo boat journey.
41:54
This is a pretend story, please do not drink and drive but I'm.
41:57
4 Margaritas. Deep and I'm just coasting
42:01
through the Gulf of California. If something hits my boat and I
42:07
see a large dark shadow, just massive with a long tail, just
42:14
slim pass in the distance like really quick.
42:16
I just kind of glanced at it because my my perception is off
42:19
and so is my my reaction time. My first thought is Oh my.
42:24
God, it's a shark. Yep, it's a shark.
42:26
Yep. Then I'd quickly sober up, turn
42:29
that bitch around and swim back to shark.
42:31
And then I find my bestie Jerry, and I tell him I almost died.
42:36
There was a shark out there and it tried to eat me.
42:40
With Brian, you never moved out of the the parking spot.
42:43
No, it was a shark. And because I have 0
42:46
understanding of the size of anything past like 6 feet, yeah,
42:51
I'm gonna say it was 50 feet long when it was probably like
42:55
11:50 for sure, for sure. And meanwhile, once again, the
42:58
boat is has been parked in the dock the whole time.
43:01
But in my mind, the black. Demon came for me and I live to
43:03
tell the tale. Yep, Yep, I would like some
43:06
water. I I would.
43:08
Believe you, I would validate your fears and console you and
43:12
be like no right, you're good you're back on yeah, you're so
43:14
and because. You're such a good friend to me.
43:15
You'd be like, Oh my God, you're right.
43:17
Like I'm so sorry that happened. Here's another Margarita.
43:20
And then when I tell the. Story it becomes 55 feet yeah
43:24
keeps going Jerry then also wants to seem cool Oh my God my
43:27
friend survived the black demon shark attack yeah yeah I was
43:29
there like I. He fell into my arms.
43:31
He was. Unconsolable.
43:32
I was like, Brian, like. You're here, you made it.
43:35
I pulled you from the boat onto land again.
43:39
And then it so it. Goes and so it goes.
43:41
Yeah, yeah. And now we're here.
43:45
Talking about it. So how long was the shark again?
43:47
Was this seventy? It was like 80.
43:50
Feet. It was the size of the ocean.
43:52
It was like 7 Honda. Accords so in.
43:55
Short. I don't think there's enough
43:56
evidence for me to believe El the Mono Negro is lurking
43:59
underwater somewhere, waiting to catch me slipping, hoping I dip
44:04
my toes into the Pacific Ocean ready.
44:06
And even if. It was.
44:08
It would never get me because I will never go swimming in the
44:12
ocean. Amen.
44:14
So what do you think? New fear?
44:16
Unlocked another reason to stay on solid ground.
44:19
Another reason, yeah, I. Mean none of these stories
44:22
involving the ocean are going to be like, you know what?
44:24
I'm getting over my fear of the ocean.
44:26
I'm going to go swim now. No doom.
44:29
Doom. Doom, Doom.
44:29
Doom, Doom Doom. I'm here in.
44:32
Land, do what you want. Shark can't get me until there's
44:35
a flood, I do want to note. That there was an article in
44:40
Spanish that did like auto translate as soon as it got on
44:43
there and that's the one that mentioned that it roared OK and
44:47
I can. Read Spanish.
44:49
OK, not well. There's a.
44:50
Lot of words I don't know, so I don't know if that was just a
44:54
lost in translation because a shark roaring, I mean that's new
44:58
to me. Well, I would think about it
44:59
like. This you know how like the
45:00
certain Gators that growl in the water that is vibrations that
45:05
just. Sound, but they're super loud.
45:07
And super like deep. Guttural.
45:11
Yeah, there you go. Guttural, they just started
45:13
screamo band the the Mono Negro. Yeah, that's a great name.
45:17
I was going to say that would be a great Luchado name too.
45:20
Yeah, I would be. And your whole.
45:21
Aesthetic is just shark. It's just a black shark.
45:23
Like, yeah, that's cool. Black leather.
45:26
I already have a mask. Secret identity.
45:30
OK, so I'm going to say that we know nothing of the ocean and
45:35
therefore I do believe that there is a how long did we say
45:38
again it was a 70 foot 90? 90 Foot shark out, 1000.
45:43
Sure. Yeah, I would.
45:45
Believe that because there's so much ocean for it to just yeah,
45:49
eat. Survive.
45:50
It's not like on land. Where we're always within like
45:54
50 feet of another person on the ocean, those boats aren't that
45:57
close together. Something could be swimming
45:59
right in between them and we're missing it.
46:00
Yep, maybe you're right. So that.
46:03
Or there's an orca that habitually goes to the southern
46:09
coast of Mexico. Or I guess the eastern coast of
46:11
Mexico fucks with the tourists and it just fucks the tourists
46:14
and it has a good old swell time and it eats and then it just
46:17
goes back. But it might be an orca, so it.
46:21
Could also cause the tail. Thing dude, I know orcas used
46:24
tails as like, yeah. As as hunting.
46:27
Method. So like that sounds like an
46:28
orca. So what if it's just like a
46:31
hyperpigmented orca? Just all black with no white
46:35
marks? Yep, and it's just using.
46:36
It's tail and I mean. I don't know to orcas aren't 90
46:38
feet, but what if it's an orca the same?
46:41
Way humans can have like. Genetic mutations that kind of
46:44
create unique individuals that could happen with animals.
46:47
The freaking raccoon from a couple weeks back.
46:49
Jimothy. Same.
46:52
Thing but imagine he. Was like 50 feet long.
46:54
Yeah. And he could swim really well.
46:56
Yep. Yep.
46:58
Wow, terrifying. I'm so.
47:00
Sorry if I gave you another. Reason to fear the ocean.
47:03
So what? Well, no, I mean, this is just.
47:04
Like a little a little a little grain of salt on a huge amount
47:07
of salt. Thanks to shark week because
47:10
dude, same. Like I remember shark week and
47:12
like they would do the animations and Discovery Channel
47:14
would like get the shark little thing inside logo and it was
47:19
just a fear. And like realistically like
47:20
shark attacks are like yes, they happen, but they're not as
47:23
common as one would think or, or as they're portrayed.
47:26
So like it's just an it's an irrational fear at some point.
47:29
It's in the same vein of 1. Day I'm going to run into
47:32
quicksand and I better know what to do.
47:34
Or the Bermuda Triangle. Oh my God.
47:36
Discovery Channel really did its number on me.
47:39
Maybe a whole generation of latchkey kids.
47:42
Maybe. Maybe.
47:43
OK, Are you ready for our? User submitted story, Yes, I
47:46
don't think it's. That long, but I will read it to
47:48
you. You can read the next one, so I
47:50
will read the next. Guys, if I go to afraid dot.
47:52
Com please submit your story Jerry will read the next one.
47:55
We're so excited, super exciting, but I need.
47:58
To learn. How to read?
48:00
From here, From here. OK.
48:03
So this one is from our friend Frenchie.
48:05
Frenchie. There's a portion on.
48:07
The submission form that asks you what kind of encounter it is
48:11
and she put not really sure. OK, OK, so here we go.
48:18
OK, so I thought about it some. More and I do have a story to
48:20
share. This is a story of Roof Man.
48:24
It could be something, it could be nothing.
48:26
I don't know. But when I was 11, my family
48:30
moved into a house in Mission Hills where we stayed for almost
48:32
20 years. During that time, my dad and I
48:35
had done a lot of renovations to the place and possibly disturb
48:39
something in the process, or maybe they were trying to help
48:42
rebuild with us, I don't know. We had the shed in the backyard,
48:46
really small, really dilapidated and overall needed a good
48:49
makeover. We tore it down and rebuilt it
48:52
from the ground up. New walls, floor, a ceiling,
48:55
everything. After that we used it for
48:57
storage. However, me being a rebellious
49:00
smoker, there was just enough room for me to be able to hang
49:04
out in there and turn it into my she shed and I spent a lot of
49:08
time in this little space. Sorry, just that's.
49:10
A great name, the she shed hell yeah over time I.
49:15
Noticed sounds, odd sounds, creepy sounds and unusual sounds
49:24
and I heard them often. The roof in the shed was flat,
49:28
no attic. Anything that was on the roof
49:31
you could hear its steps. No problem, and fairly loud too
49:33
since I was right below it. After spending years in that
49:36
shed, I knew the difference between birds, cats, leaves
49:40
falling on it, or even raccoons on the roof above me.
49:43
One day I started hearing. Footsteps.
49:46
Big, heavy, bipedal footsteps, I started.
49:51
To hear them all. Over the house too, in the hall
49:55
above my bedroom and even above the carport out front, as well
49:58
as the guest unit. Again, no attic space for
50:02
anything to crawl into one. Evening.
50:05
It was very. Late close to 2:00 AM and I'm
50:08
watching something and I hear the stomp stomp stop of
50:13
something walking on the roof right above me being.
50:16
Aware of this, I kept the flashlight.
50:17
Close by and I ran outside across the pool to shine a light
50:20
on the roof and there was absolutely nothing there and it
50:24
sent the coldest chills down my spine.
50:28
Over the years, it continued to. Stomp around with no reason.
50:31
It wasn't a bird or cat or raccoon.
50:35
It was a heavy, full grown sounding footstep on the roof.
50:39
Eventually my stepfather started hearing them as well as my mom.
50:44
Matt was a skeptic at first, but he slowly came around.
50:47
He'll never admit it, but he believes in Roof Man now.
50:51
Never learned what it was. I've looked up the house history
50:54
and got nothing. I think something happened
50:57
during the original construction of the house which was the early
50:59
70s and perhaps someone fell off and died.
51:03
And to this day he's just trying to get his project done forever
51:06
waiting to clock out and go home.
51:09
But that's my story of roof man. May he clock out one day.
51:14
No, another person that's forever in time, working,
51:17
working, work, work. Work, work, work.
51:20
You see me? I'll be work work using the.
51:23
What is it the? The hammer on the wheel, Yeah,
51:26
it's giving 5th. Harmony work from home.
51:27
That's insane. That's my song recommendation,
51:30
so. Sorry, it has.
51:32
It has to be an. Early recommended song Frenchie.
51:36
Thank you for that. That is creepy as hell.
51:40
I couldn't imagine. I mean, I'm sure you're used to
51:42
it, Brian. Yeah, but it makes sense
51:44
because. I have neighbors above me, Yeah.
51:46
If I'm in a one story house where there's no attic, nothing
51:49
but the roof, yeah. Man.
51:55
I, I just, I can't imagine, especially like when you're at
51:58
night when you're laying there and there's like no sound and
52:00
then you just hear the stomp, stomp, stomp.
52:04
That that would send chills down to.
52:05
My spine I would move, I'd have to figure.
52:08
Something out I'd be like, it's your house.
52:10
Now I'm out of here. Congrats with the.
52:13
Remodel. I'm leaving.
52:15
Yep, at some point I would be. Like damn dude, like if you're
52:18
going to be stomping it around all night, like pay some of the
52:21
rent, pay some of the rent, help out and then stomp away as you
52:24
please. But fuck that.
52:26
Like that would get super annoying and.
52:31
That just I'd be. Super creeped out at first.
52:33
I'd be fine. As long as it doesn't.
52:34
Impact my sleep, genuinely, I think that's I'm pretty relaxed
52:37
with that. Also, your snores would probably
52:40
drown. It out, Yeah.
52:41
So we cancel each other out. We annoy each other.
52:43
There you go. Perfect.
52:44
It's a symbiotic relationship. Yeah.
52:46
You make it work. You just.
52:47
Make it work, you stomp by snore.
52:50
Frenchie, that was so well. Written, that was, yeah.
52:52
Honestly, that was really, really good.
52:54
I felt like I was there. And I felt like the footsteps
52:57
were above me. Matt, do you hear that?
53:01
Stomp stomp stomp, dude. Hey, I found a common story.
53:06
So apparently when we first moved into our previous
53:10
apartment before we met Matt and Frenchie and I'm sorry if this
53:14
is a story you might want to bring up in the future Frenchie
53:16
or Matt. But apparently they heard like
53:18
footsteps of a running like they mentioned child like that
53:22
sounded like quick and like fast-paced down the hall.
53:25
But they were like, oh, they probably have a kid.
53:27
And then obviously later in the future, we met and stuff and
53:31
they brought it up and they're like, yeah, at first we thought
53:33
you guys had a kid because, like, we would hear like,
53:36
running footsteps. And it was in the same hallway
53:38
of the apartment And not, not the like, the outside hallway
53:41
through the, the one inside. Yeah, the one inside our unit.
53:44
So I mean, hey, I'm starting to notice a trend in stomps.
53:47
Oh Frenchie roof man. Is coming to get you.
53:49
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
53:50
I'm not manifesting. No, I'm not.
53:53
Manifesting that I'm so. Sorry.
53:55
Huh, That's very interesting. Thank you for sharing, Frenchie.
53:58
Anyone else that has a story to share, please amigosafraid.com
54:01
There is a link for you to submit your story.
54:04
We'd be happy to read it on an episode and may the roof man
54:07
clock. Out and rest.
54:10
Hang it up, hang it up, old. Man, hang up the boots.
54:14
What kind of shoes the roof man got on stompers.
54:18
So I'm like, do you think they're OSHA approved?
54:19
Like no steel toe? I think they're composite toe
54:23
midnight ballerina shoes. He's just a little, you know,
54:27
because of the roof. And like the metrics he's
54:29
putting on a show, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I am going to
54:32
recommend. Another.
54:34
Motionless and white song. I'm sorry guys, I'm sorry.
54:36
There's I'm still riding that high 1 trick pony.
54:40
What? You're a 1 trick pony.
54:42
What's that? You only have like. 11.
54:44
Trick Pony is like something that it only has one skill.
54:48
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We can cut out.
54:50
We're not going to cut that. We're going to.
54:51
Leave it in because I learned something new, but I was just
54:54
trying to come up with a comeback and I couldn't so watch
54:57
your back, Brian. Fuck you.
55:00
Bam. So I'm going to recommend
55:02
motionless and white. Not my type.
55:03
Dead as fuck too. Oh, the.
55:06
Sequel. See.
55:08
It's a sequel, it's really good fun song and.
55:13
Especially because it's Halloween season.
55:15
What better time we have to start planning?
55:17
What we're going to do for Halloween, Maybe we'll do a live
55:21
show. You guys want to watch us do a
55:23
live stream or something? I would probably get.
55:25
Super nervous and forget how to talk more than usual.
55:30
A. Live show would be cool.
55:30
We do it. At a coffee shop.
55:33
No, I don't want to do it in public.
55:34
Then I'll get nervous. We do it in public with mics.
55:37
And and microphones. I don't want to be like.
55:40
Those freaking kick streamers that just cause disturbance
55:43
that's. Super.
55:44
Yeah, I. Just gave myself the ick and I
55:46
hope I gave it to you too. We're not gonna do that, I take.
55:48
That back? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:50
We'll do it at Brian's place. Everyone's invited.
55:53
Come over. We'll put the address on
55:55
Craigslist. I have enough seating.
55:57
For maybe 3 of you. It's gonna be a very, very small
56:03
list. We'll discuss.
56:04
We'll discuss. We'll plan.
56:05
Something we're still a little bit away, but thank you guys for
56:08
listening you hear in the footsteps I'm.
56:09
Choosing to ignore them. Thank you for listening.
56:12
Happy Thursday, hope you have a great day or night and we'll
56:15
catch you next week. On Amigos.
56:17
Afraid.