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Best of Chuck & Buck 4-22 · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: I think all's going to be well, But man, that
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Speaker 1: looks like a dead ass ball team right now.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't make what's going on right now any less frustrating.
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Speaker 2: That's for sure.
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Speaker 1: That atmosphere was horrible, that that affect was horrible last night.
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Speaker 1: It was it felt like a funeral last night. By
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Speaker 1: the end of that game. That was terrible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some promising moments, but it was like
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Speaker 3: every to have it be that. Every time we had
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Speaker 3: something positive, the next inning they had something more positive.
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Speaker 2: It was like, oh, come on, guys, like.
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Speaker 1: It's bad energy. It's bad energy right now. But yes,
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Speaker 1: twenty five games into the season, five games under five hundred,
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Speaker 1: none of us saw this coming, and yet they do
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Speaker 1: this to us every single year. It's certainly been a
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Speaker 1: lot worse. There have been certainly a lot more hair pulling,
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Speaker 1: head scratching what the f is going on moments with
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Speaker 1: this team in the Depoto era, but certainly last night
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Speaker 1: another loss add to the frustration. The A's were throwing
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Speaker 1: Jacob Lopez, a left hander who entered the game with
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Speaker 1: a seven E RA. But he's left handed, Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: that solves everything when you're facing the Mariners, and that
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Speaker 1: is something to be concerned about. That is a legitimate
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Speaker 1: worry right now. This team, this organization'sendability to either find
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Speaker 1: guys that can hit right handed or their ability to
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Speaker 1: adapt to the stadium. I don't know what it is,
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Speaker 1: but man, what a mystery that everybody that they get
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Speaker 1: that they feel is a proven crusher of left handed
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Speaker 1: pitching is not only I mean they're terrible. They're terrible.
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Speaker 2: Although Rob Refsnyder did get a second hit of the season.
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Speaker 1: Still has an seventy four batting haveage, so for the season,
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Speaker 1: he's been terrible. And I'm giving him a lot more
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Speaker 1: time to try to figure this out. I'm not burying him.
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Speaker 1: But Mitch Garver, we gave a lot of time to
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Speaker 1: and he never figured it out.
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Speaker 2: Just his stat line, man, And he got that hit
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Speaker 2: last night.
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Speaker 1: That was pure luck exactly. So the MS fell behind
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Speaker 1: early one to nothing with Luis Castillo on the mounta
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Speaker 1: and he was better last night, but still not great.
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Speaker 1: And then the Mariners came back and the third inning
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Speaker 1: they tied things up. The A's came right back, took
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Speaker 1: the lead in the fourth, and then cal Raleigh looks
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Speaker 1: like he's finally being cal again.
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Speaker 4: That brings up cal Raleigh one for two to night
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Speaker 4: a single.
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Speaker 5: His last at bat.
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Speaker 4: Deep let field Cal Rally at the long.
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Speaker 5: Time Gabe Cal roll.
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Speaker 1: Back to back knights with home runs for Cal, so
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Speaker 1: that's something that was positive. Four home runs now on
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Speaker 1: the season. He had two hits. He got on base
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Speaker 1: three times last night, so maybe Cal's starting to put
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Speaker 1: it together. I think Julio's actually had some pretty good
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Speaker 1: adbassies not hitting with a lot of power at this
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Speaker 1: point in the season, but his batting average does not
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Speaker 1: represent how well he's been hitting the ball. Naylor continues
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Speaker 1: to be a bit of a concern, but he had I.
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Speaker 3: Mean even at least he had the sacrifice fly last
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Speaker 3: night that scored refs night er.
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Speaker 2: That was helpful.
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Speaker 1: But overall you scored just two runs. And obviously left
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Speaker 1: handers are giving this team all sorts of fits to
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Speaker 1: start the season. And the A's ended up rattling off
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Speaker 1: a run in the sixth, another in the seventh, and
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Speaker 1: then one more in the ninth for good measure, and
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Speaker 1: they walk away with a five to win over the
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Speaker 1: now ten and fifteen Seattle Mariners. Dan Wilson was speaking
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Speaker 1: after the game about another loss.
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Speaker 6: You know, tough one again tonight. You know, I thought,
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Speaker 6: you know, Rock he really had to battle through who
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Speaker 6: his five. You know, they put in some deep counts
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Speaker 6: on him. But I really like the way he fought
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Speaker 6: tonight and again doing a nice job of getting a
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Speaker 6: had an account. I think he was nineteen out of
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Speaker 6: twenty two and first pitch strikes, so you know, he
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Speaker 6: was he was attacking, trying to get you know, in
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Speaker 6: the zone early. He was able to do that, getting
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Speaker 6: control of the count. He just had a couple of
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Speaker 6: at bats there that were that were deeper and uh,
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Speaker 6: but you know, he pitched through five, did a nice job,
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Speaker 6: give us a chance to win late offensively. You know,
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Speaker 6: we had some opportunities that that we didn't cash in
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Speaker 6: on tonight. I thought, you know, the first inning was
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Speaker 6: was outstanding, you know, getting ref on there, getting them
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Speaker 6: you know over the third and then and then the
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Speaker 6: sackfly and obviously Cowl a couple hits tonight and Julio,
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Speaker 6: but you know, a lot of contact tonight, you know,
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Speaker 6: I think we had eight hits, So there was a
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Speaker 6: lot of contact, but just not a lot to show
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Speaker 6: for it. And you know, we got to keep keep
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Speaker 6: pushing and keep getting the traffic on there and and
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Speaker 6: keep you know, giving ourselves a chance, and and uh,
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Speaker 6: you know, we know that at some point we'll start
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Speaker 6: to get those runs in.
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Speaker 1: I believe it too, But I mean there are some
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Speaker 1: positives in there. Like he said he had eight hits,
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Speaker 1: and you are putting guys on base, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But then what are you doing with them once you
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Speaker 2: get them there?
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Speaker 1: You are getting your walks, which is a hallmark to
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Speaker 1: this organizationals organization's efforts. But zero and four with runners
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Speaker 1: in scoring position last night, and you'll only struck out
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Speaker 1: five times and still couldn't come up with those hits
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Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position, couldn't find holes. And you
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Speaker 1: continue to struggle against any left hander that anybody puts
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Speaker 1: out on the mountain.
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Speaker 2: And that's the ridiculous part.
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Speaker 3: Like it's not as if it's cy young caliber pitchers
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Speaker 3: that that teams are finding and then anything they just
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Speaker 3: happen to be matching up against us. It's teams are saying, oh, okay,
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Speaker 3: let's just bring this person up for this.
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Speaker 1: We had Hogan Harris in this series looked like Chris
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Speaker 1: Sale for goodness sake. I mean, he's just dominated everybody
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Speaker 1: that he's gone up.
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Speaker 2: Against and his name doesn't even sound real.
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Speaker 1: It is made up. He's not even a real baseball
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Speaker 1: player baseball play. They picked him up at the airport,
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Speaker 1: sounds like Hogan's heroes. He was holding a sign.
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Speaker 2: They were like, hey, this guy's name sounds.
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Speaker 1: Are you left handed sign holder? That's basically what happens
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Speaker 1: hop aboard. You're in a now for the next three days.
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Speaker 1: Five to two is the final score. And again I'm
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Speaker 1: not panicking. I rattled off all the teams that are
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Speaker 1: under five hundred right now that I think will be
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Speaker 1: over five hundred by the end of the season. But
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, it can't you can't let it slip
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Speaker 1: any further. And there are no sacred cows. Not I
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Speaker 1: mean that's not entirely true. I mean Cal and Julio
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Speaker 1: and Naylor. There are a lot of guys that are safe,
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Speaker 1: let's put it that way. But in terms of getting
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Speaker 1: in the way of us winning a championship, man, if
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Speaker 1: JP Crawford's playing this poorly because he's looking over his shoulder,
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Speaker 1: then so be it. You will get lapped. He was
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Speaker 1: a twenty year old who might be able to provide
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Speaker 1: a spark I don't even think Dan Wilson should be
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Speaker 1: considered safe. You have a World Series roster right now.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying you've got to turn it around immediately
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Speaker 1: and go on some ten game winning streak when you're
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Speaker 1: not playing well. I'm saying that, but you can't let
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Speaker 1: it get worse. I'll say that for all the people
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Speaker 1: that are outraged over Dan, I'm not there with you,
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Speaker 1: but he's not been good. H And I'm not letting
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Speaker 1: anything get in the way of this team's chances of
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Speaker 1: winning a World Series. Too much went into this. They're
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Speaker 1: too good. They're too good on paper to have a
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Speaker 1: lifeless performance in game number twenty five of the season
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Speaker 1: and be ten and fifteen on the year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And I know I am halfway joking when I say
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Speaker 3: I'm saying we need to go on a ten game
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Speaker 3: win streak, But I'm only halfway joking, Like we need
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Speaker 3: to start I need to start seeing something.
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Speaker 2: This is frustrating.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Gilbert tonight against Aaron Savale, who A's fans are
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Speaker 1: furious with at this point with how he's looked so
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Speaker 1: far this season, and he is right handed.
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Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, there you go to get a win.
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Speaker 3: There you go, so at the ten game win streaks
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Speaker 3: start today.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need it. It's not a must, but man,
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Speaker 1: to get swept by the A's just just an inability
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Speaker 1: to establish any momentum early on in this season. To
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Speaker 1: have taken two from the Rangers and then just give
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Speaker 1: it all back and then some to the A's would
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Speaker 1: be pretty hard.
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Speaker 3: And I understand the A's are a better team than
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Speaker 3: they have, but that's still embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets swept by them.
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Speaker 1: So one ten, first pitch today, they'll try to salvage
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Speaker 1: a game out of this if they can win this.
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Speaker 1: They went four and nine in their first thirteen and
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Speaker 1: then that would mean seven and six over their next thirteen,
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Speaker 1: which is improvement. It's a long way away from where
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Speaker 1: you want to be, but that is improvement over the
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Speaker 1: next thirteen. Get three more wins of improvement over the
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Speaker 1: following thirteen and.
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Speaker 5: You're where you need to be.
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Speaker 1: So maybe there is a little bit of a positive
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Speaker 1: movement by this team so far this year. But if
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Speaker 1: you can explain to me why this group just plays
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Speaker 1: like this for chunks of time every single season, no
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Speaker 1: matter how much talent they do or don't have, you know.
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Speaker 5: Let me know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great.
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Speaker 1: Try to explain that to me.
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Speaker 2: Maybe let the Mariners know too, then they could fix it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Coming up next on the radio program
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Speaker 1: yesterday in Boston, Mike Rabel spoke, what do we think
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Speaker 1: of his comments? We'll talk about an next Sports Radio
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Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 4: Here's Luke Rayley the second half batt He pinched it
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Speaker 4: for Refsnader.
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Speaker 5: The seventh.
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Speaker 4: Americors went out away from a series lost to these
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Speaker 4: A's after winning the opening series of this home stand
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Speaker 4: against the Rangers, taking two out of three.
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Speaker 1: This is a foul ball.
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Speaker 4: Mariners out of their final strike, not to be the
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Speaker 4: A's win the series, and in the game started by
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Speaker 4: Jacob Lopez and his six three eight era, the Mariners
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Speaker 4: are held to seven singles and a homer and score
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Speaker 4: two runs, and they fall tonight five to two.
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Speaker 1: Aaron's lett his frustrations fly here the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: You can tell happy. I I get though, Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: get tired of just the company line. All is well,
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Speaker 1: All is well. He'll he'll tell you, yeah, he'll disagree
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Speaker 1: with pitching moves. I like it. He's supposed to tell
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Speaker 1: the story of the season. He's the narrator of the season.
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Speaker 1: That's what that's his main function. It's not to be
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Speaker 1: a mouthpiece for the Mariners organization. So Mariner's TV last
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Speaker 1: night Aaron Goldsmith on the call, and I think he
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Speaker 1: captured the frustration, the disappointment, the hair pulling aspect that
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Speaker 1: we can't hit left hand quite well with his final call.
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Speaker 1: Right there, Mariners lose again to the A's five to two.
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Speaker 1: They have fallen to ten and fifteen on this very
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Speaker 1: very young season. And that's where our seven o'clock hour begins.
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Speaker 1: Good morning to you all, Ashley Ryan's here. My name
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Speaker 1: is Chuck Powellin about a minute, Greg Bell's going to
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Speaker 1: join us, our Seahawks insider. We have a lot to
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Speaker 1: discuss with him. Let me rip through a few of
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Speaker 1: your headlines here, brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps,
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Speaker 1: Light Shoes, Chill. Mariners will play again today at one ten.
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Speaker 1: They'll take on the A's. It'll be Logan Gilbert versus
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Speaker 1: A's right hander. Thank goodness, Aaron Savali will get the pitch,
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Speaker 1: get the start for Sacramento. Five to two was the
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Speaker 1: final score last night. Also, the Mariners DFA Casey Legumina
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Speaker 1: yesterday and activated Alex Hoppi, their offseason acquisition from Boston.
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Speaker 1: Certainly a more talented pitcher than leg Umina. We'll see
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Speaker 1: if he can be more effective. Stanley Cup Playoffs last night,
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Boston, Utah, Colorado. We're all winners. The only
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Speaker 1: one in that group who's up two oh the Colorado Avalanche. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: in the NBA Victor Winbin Yama had to leave yesterday
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Speaker 1: early with a concussion and it cost the Spurs the game.
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Speaker 1: They lost to Portland one oh six to one oh three,
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Speaker 1: so that series is even at one game apiece. Philadelphia's
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Speaker 1: even things up with Boston at one game apiece, and
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Speaker 1: the Lakers are up two to oh on the Rockets,
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Speaker 1: who even had Kevin Durant last night at their disposal.
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Speaker 1: Two games only two games tonight in the NBA playoffs
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Speaker 1: Orlando and Detroit and Phoenix and OKC and Mike Grabel
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Speaker 1: spoke yesterday kind of explaining the last week of his
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Speaker 1: life as Patriots head coach that he had a lot
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Speaker 1: of conversations with a lot of people he cared for,
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Speaker 1: very difficult one so over the course of the last
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Speaker 1: week a bit of an admission of what went on
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Speaker 1: at that Sedona hotel after denying it for several days.
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Speaker 1: And the NFL Draft starts tomorrow. We are one sleep
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Speaker 1: away from beautiful Draft day. Joining us now our Seahawks
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Speaker 1: insider Greg Bell.
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Speaker 5: With the bell tolls.
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Speaker 7: and but I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, why even fight it? You know you're not gonna
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Speaker 1: be able to sleep tonight.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, we're gonna put some cookies in there though, by
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Speaker 8: the fireplace.
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Speaker 1: Yeah's carrots. Yes, that's that's should do that. That's still
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Speaker 1: a thing, right, I've never heard of carrots.
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Speaker 8: Carrots, thank you?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, although, but reindeer actually really love apples. If you
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Speaker 3: want to spoil them, you gotta put a.
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Speaker 1: Well, why wouldn't you spoil a reindeer? You only get
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Speaker 1: one day access to them, that's right, Yeah, you gotta
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Speaker 1: spoil the.
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Speaker 3: Ring all the goodies and Santa or Father Draftmas in
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Speaker 3: this case, I'm pretty sure he loves.
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Speaker 2: Bourbon or red wine.
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Speaker 1: Oh is that right? Draftmas? Oh right, well your father Draftmas? Right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: if you want to put that out. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I can sneak into your houses overnight though. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm father Draftmas and all, but I can still get
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Speaker 1: arrested for breaking and entering. All right, let's talk to you.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk some draft here with Greg. So it seems
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Speaker 1: that everybody now sees the light. They have the Seahawks
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Speaker 1: drafting out draft trading out of pick number thirty two,
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Speaker 1: and it seems like Greg, an awful lot of people
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Speaker 1: have that little short exchange between the Cardinals and the Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: some from thirty two down to thirty four. So do
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Speaker 1: they know something, do we know something? Or is that
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Speaker 1: just pure speculation by a lot of different people that
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Speaker 1: have arrived at the same conclusion.
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Speaker 8: That's John Schnyder accomplishing his from money when he said, oh,
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Speaker 8: yeah we would trade within the division, and yeah we
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Speaker 8: would trade for a team that wants a quarterback. So
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Speaker 8: he swung that pick open for sale, and people are
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Speaker 8: raising the perception that that's going to happen. The whole
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Speaker 8: scenario I mentioned yesterday. What would make it easier for
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Speaker 8: the Seahawks that trade down is if Ty Simpson, the
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Speaker 8: quarterback from Alabama is still on the draft board at
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Speaker 8: thirty two most people think he's going to be and
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Speaker 8: then a team Mike Arizona that just cut Kyler Murray,
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Speaker 8: even though Arizona's only two spots back could move up.
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Speaker 8: Because the key there is the Jets pick at thirty three,
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Speaker 8: and the Jets don't have a quarterback of the future.
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Speaker 8: They have one of the very right now, Geno Smith
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Speaker 8: coming back for a renewal in New York. But you
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Speaker 8: can envision that, well, what about after Gino Smith after
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Speaker 8: a year or two, so that the Cardinals would perhaps
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Speaker 8: send a fourth or fifth round pick to Seattle to
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Speaker 8: jump ahead of the Jets in that scenario. Again, it's
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Speaker 8: not just quarterbacks. If a team that doesn't have any
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Speaker 8: more picks in a round one has anybody a red
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Speaker 8: rusher or a corner that they like, they could trade
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Speaker 8: with the Seahawks and do the same thing John Schneider
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Speaker 8: I mentioned this day day. John Schneider has tried to
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Speaker 8: trade He's traded four the first round pick fourteen times
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Speaker 8: in sixteen drafts. Ten of times gone down, the other
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Speaker 8: four times involved the player. He's never gone up in
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Speaker 8: the first round, but he has been trying even in
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Speaker 8: the years he hasn't during drafts traded down, tried to
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Speaker 8: and it just has not worked out for whatever reason.
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Speaker 8: One year he had a deal with green Bay and
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Speaker 8: then Miami jumped in front of where the Seahawks were
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Speaker 8: going to pick and took the guy that green Bay wanted.
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Speaker 8: So the trade fell through and the Seahawks ended up picking.
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Speaker 8: So it's not like just because Snyder wants to do it,
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Speaker 8: it's going to happen. It has to be things like
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Speaker 8: Ty Simpson, it's being available at thirty two, like the
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Speaker 8: Cardinals thinking the Jets are going to take them, And
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Speaker 8: like we also said before, the Seahawks have to be
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Speaker 8: convinced that the guy they really want would have taken
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Speaker 8: at thirty two will still be there when they trade
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Speaker 8: down to whatever spot they trade down to or else.
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Speaker 8: Why do it. You're not going to give up your
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Speaker 8: best player on the board with for your top pick
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Speaker 8: if you don't think he'll be there when you trade down.
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Speaker 8: So the Stars have to align, but Don Schneider often
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Speaker 8: makes the stars aligne and I think that's what's gonna
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Speaker 8: happen to Moro night. Seahawks fans are going to watch
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Speaker 8: three and a half hours and then find out their
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Speaker 8: team traded down to first pick on Friday.
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with US Seahawks inside of the day
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Speaker 1: before the NFL Draft. This, I think, I think is
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Speaker 1: my eleventh Seahawks draft that I will be covering eleven times,
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Speaker 1: and the previous ten, Greg, the Seahawks fans have all
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Speaker 1: been about getting offensive line help. Until this year. We're
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Speaker 1: not hearing a lot of chatter from Seahawks fans. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they're satisfied, maybe Gray's Abel solved everything. But how big
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Speaker 1: of a priority, if any at all, might offensive line
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Speaker 1: be for John and Mike in the next three days.
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Speaker 8: I think it's still there, and of the mitigating factors.
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Speaker 8: Of course, they only have four picks. They might get
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Speaker 8: the five if they trade back from round one, but
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Speaker 8: they don't have the inventory to go find depth pieces
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Speaker 8: and explore a line of scrimmage that they've had in
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Speaker 8: other drafts. Again, fewest picks in the league at four,
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Speaker 8: second fewest picks in team history. Behind only the twenty
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Speaker 8: twenty one COVID draft of three that they punted. I
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Speaker 8: think they're going to take a line offensive lineman and
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Speaker 8: probably late in that sixth round pick they have from Cleveland,
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Speaker 8: and I have them on my mock draft for the
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Speaker 8: News Tribune, taking in as Cooper is a bit a
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Speaker 8: four year starter at right guard at the University of Miami.
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Speaker 8: Of course, right guard is positioned that Anthony Bradford has
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Speaker 8: drawn a lot of criticism for that. Mike McDonald has
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Speaker 8: said he has been very pleased with Mike McDonald and
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Speaker 8: that you could take film cutups of almost any offensive
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Speaker 8: lineman in the league and find a couple plays, a
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Speaker 8: few plays that he doesn't do well in, but by
18:59
Speaker 8: and large, they really like Anthony Bradford, according to what
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Speaker 8: McDonald says. Even if they love him, the fact remains
19:06
Speaker 8: that Bradford's entering the final year of his rookie contract,
19:10
Speaker 8: so they have a decision at some point at right guard.
19:13
Speaker 8: The right guards they have tried have failed behind Bradford.
19:16
Speaker 8: If Christian Haynes was what they thought he would be
19:18
Speaker 8: when they drafted him two three years ago, two years
19:21
Speaker 8: now out of Connecticut, he would have been starting. He
19:24
Speaker 8: had every opportunity as a rookie, and again last summer
19:26
Speaker 8: in training camp, and he didn't win the job. They
19:29
Speaker 8: tried over with Timmy when they moved him from center
19:32
Speaker 8: to do some time at guard. He didn't pan out
19:34
Speaker 8: it'd be any better than Bradford. So Bradford beat out
19:36
Speaker 8: two guys and we'll be the right guard as it
19:39
Speaker 8: stands right now, to start this season. But then his
19:41
Speaker 8: contract ends after this year. I could see him taking
19:44
Speaker 8: a sixth round pick on the guard to see if
19:48
Speaker 8: he could be prepared to potentially be the next guy.
19:51
Speaker 8: They just haven't found that next guy yet.
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Speaker 1: What are you hearing? I mean, here we are a
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Speaker 1: day before Do you have any different insight than what
20:01
Speaker 1: you had for the mock draft? Are there any rumblings
20:04
Speaker 1: that are taking place, anything that you've tapped into or
20:07
Speaker 1: you just heard on the wind in regards to what
20:10
Speaker 1: they might do tomorrow. We don't have that silly Pete
20:12
Speaker 1: Carroll video anymore to fool us, So you know, no
20:16
Speaker 1: clues whatsoever sprinkled out there by John. But I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I wanted to not get through today without
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Speaker 1: at least asking if you've heard anything New.
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Speaker 8: Well, there is more talk that it's going to be
20:28
Speaker 8: Arizona trading of I have them trading down with Cleveland
20:31
Speaker 8: to thirty nine, but there is more talk now that
20:35
Speaker 8: it could be Arizona, and that the Seahawks, of course,
20:39
Speaker 8: now that everyone knows they're willing to trade down, that
20:42
Speaker 8: they'd be willing to trade down two spots. The thing
20:46
Speaker 8: that I hesitate to think they might do that is
20:48
Speaker 8: it's only two spots. You could get a fourth round
20:51
Speaker 8: pick from Cleveland rather than a fifth round pick from Arizona.
20:54
Speaker 8: If you trade it with Cleveland, say at thirty nine,
20:56
Speaker 8: or Houston or Tennessee further into the second round. Further
21:00
Speaker 8: you'd go down. Of course, the higher your draft return
21:03
Speaker 8: and you get a fourth round pick instead of a
21:05
Speaker 8: fifth round pick. Not a huge huge deal, but for
21:07
Speaker 8: a team that he only has four picks, it matters
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Speaker 8: a little bit. So again, the calculus they have is
21:13
Speaker 8: is our guy. I think their guy is Malkay Lawrence
21:16
Speaker 8: the outside edge Russia, or Brandon CC the cornerback from
21:19
Speaker 8: South Carolina. With their first pick. I think they really
21:23
Speaker 8: like Jadarian price, but I think they think they can
21:25
Speaker 8: get priced later, or they can get a running back,
21:27
Speaker 8: be it Mike Washington junior later than round two. For
21:31
Speaker 8: the way this draft looks at running backs, it's a
21:33
Speaker 8: week week position in a week draft. So do they
21:37
Speaker 8: think Malachi Lawrence, who could possibly be going before thirty two?
21:41
Speaker 8: But if do they think Lawrence would be there at
21:43
Speaker 8: thirty two, thirty four, thirty nine, Brandon cc I think
21:47
Speaker 8: will be And that's why they could make a deal
21:51
Speaker 8: deeper into round two with a team like Cleveland.
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Speaker 1: Them possibly being interested in another South Carolina player. Just coincidence?
22:00
Speaker 1: Is that something that you know, with the success of
22:03
Speaker 1: Emon Worri, Hey, maybe that's a program that we like
22:07
Speaker 1: the way they're coaching defensive backs, or as you pointed out,
22:11
Speaker 1: that's a program with a lot of talent and they
22:13
Speaker 1: don't know how to coach defensive backs and we want
22:18
Speaker 1: to get the talent and then fix it. Any any
22:21
Speaker 1: link there at.
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Speaker 8: All sounds like a father of a former University of
22:25
Speaker 8: Florida quarterback that would make the assessment about an SEC rival. No,
22:31
Speaker 8: I think that's coincidence because, for one thing, Emon Warre
22:34
Speaker 8: and CEC did not play together, even Worrey left before
22:37
Speaker 8: CEC transferred to South Carolina. Even worried became a Seahawk
22:40
Speaker 8: and Cec had the one season in Columbia. They do
22:44
Speaker 8: know each other from high school and they were playing together
22:47
Speaker 8: in seven on seven's and whatnot in the Columbia South
22:49
Speaker 8: Carolina they're something South Carolina where CEC's from, so they
22:55
Speaker 8: do know each other. But that to me is more
22:57
Speaker 8: of a coincidence and the fact they're just instinctive players.
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Speaker 8: And I mentioned Cci and the thing that keeps sticking
23:03
Speaker 8: it in my head or that the position coach at
23:06
Speaker 8: South Carolina says that he knows all eleven responsibilities of
23:10
Speaker 8: all eleven defensive players on any play in the playbook.
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Speaker 8: And Mike McDonald, I mean that is right down Mike
23:16
Speaker 8: McDonald's forte for defensive coaching defensive players. He requires his
23:20
Speaker 8: players to know every other position. It allows him to
23:23
Speaker 8: multiply their roles and switch them at the snap. And
23:27
Speaker 8: for a corner, that means you could play inside, you
23:29
Speaker 8: can be run support, you can go outside, you play man,
23:31
Speaker 8: you play zone, you can blitz. That's exactly what Mike
23:34
Speaker 8: McDonald wants, which is why Brandon Cec makes a lot
23:37
Speaker 8: of sense to me.
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Speaker 1: For the Seahawks, Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insight.
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Speaker 1: You can followhim at g Bell Seattle. Should be doing
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Speaker 1: other NFL event that occupies Greg Bells every second of
23:52
Speaker 1: every day, it seems of his life. And so I
23:57
Speaker 1: would just play off of that for a little bit,
23:59
Speaker 1: because I know this isn't your favorite event to cover.
24:02
Speaker 1: You say that, and yet you're a great storyteller, and
24:06
Speaker 1: I know that you love the stories of these young
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Speaker 1: men and their paths to the National Football League, and
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get at least four more of those by
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Speaker 1: the end of Saturday, and probably six. So I think
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Speaker 1: you loved this little draft miss process a little bit
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Speaker 1: more than you let on.
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Speaker 8: Dragdoll. Well, thank you. I think there's a couple of
24:28
Speaker 8: my approach to this. Once they draft guys is we're
24:32
Speaker 8: gonna have four years to learn their football and everyone
24:35
Speaker 8: can see the film, everyone can see their forty times.
24:39
Speaker 8: What the scouts say about him? What is it that
24:41
Speaker 8: got him here? Yeah, that's the story to me. It's
24:45
Speaker 8: Gray's Abel saying when I asked him last year, Okay,
24:48
Speaker 8: what are you going to do now that you just
24:49
Speaker 8: got drafted pier South Dakota, What are you going to
24:52
Speaker 8: do back there at the parties? Is that they're about
24:53
Speaker 8: to crush these bush lights that staring at for the
24:56
Speaker 8: whole draft. Those are the stories I mean. And this
25:01
Speaker 8: year I am really focusing on players who spent their
25:04
Speaker 8: entire college careers at one school. They are unicorns now
25:09
Speaker 8: and it tells Mike MacDonald and John Schneider a lot
25:12
Speaker 8: about the mental makeup, the emotional makeup, the maturity and
25:16
Speaker 8: the priorities of players that stay for four years. I
25:19
Speaker 8: asked him Monday about that and they said, yeah, that
25:22
Speaker 8: is a factor for a team that prides himself for
25:25
Speaker 8: a coach that has molded such a championship culture and
25:29
Speaker 8: a togetherness, loyalty to a program over money, and by
25:34
Speaker 8: eighteen nineteen year old college kid matters a lot. And
25:37
Speaker 8: when they're trying to project how a guy will fit
25:39
Speaker 8: in this culture, in this brotherhood, that's a big deal.
25:44
Speaker 8: So look for players who have been at schools for
25:46
Speaker 8: There are many who've been at schools for all four years.
25:50
Speaker 8: I think of Dominic Orange, they call him the big
25:53
Speaker 8: Citrus out of Iowa State, he's a nose tackle. He's
25:58
Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty plus pounds. Can't move him. He's
26:01
Speaker 8: not a pass rusher, he's a run stuffer. He's just gigantic.
26:05
Speaker 8: He had a chance to go to all kinds of
26:07
Speaker 8: schools instead of Iowa State for how good he was
26:10
Speaker 8: at run stopping and big citrus state in ames Iowa.
26:13
Speaker 8: If you're a nineteen twenty year old kid staying in
26:16
Speaker 8: ames Iowa for four years, turning down a million dollars,
26:18
Speaker 8: millions of dollars, you got something more than just football
26:21
Speaker 8: going on. That's what Mike McDonald wants. And I have
26:25
Speaker 8: the Seahawks taking Orange in the third round. I actually
26:28
Speaker 8: when I read about his background in the fact he
26:30
Speaker 8: stayed and is prowess that the center of the defensive
26:33
Speaker 8: line and they need to get better at and deeper
26:35
Speaker 8: at and Jaren Reed turning thirty four years old and
26:38
Speaker 8: all of it, Domic goings to the Seahawks in the
26:40
Speaker 8: third round. I pushed Mike Washington Junior to the fourth
26:43
Speaker 8: round of my Seahawks mock draft of the Distribune. But
26:46
Speaker 8: those to me are I learned this a long time
26:49
Speaker 8: ago when I first started in the Army. I changed careers.
26:53
Speaker 8: I went to grad school California, Berkeley for Masters in Journalism,
26:56
Speaker 8: and in one of my Masters of Journalism courses, and Killian,
26:59
Speaker 8: the long time I'm Award winning columnist then of the
27:02
Speaker 8: Santasee Bercury News, now at the San Francisco Chronicles, still
27:04
Speaker 8: a friend to this day. She came to our graduate
27:08
Speaker 8: class and she said, you know how many people think
27:11
Speaker 8: sports writing is about sports, And of course ninety percent
27:14
Speaker 8: of the class of twenty raise their hand and she said, now,
27:18
Speaker 8: sports writing is about people. And I never forgot that.
27:22
Speaker 8: Because everyone knows the score, especially now with our phones,
27:27
Speaker 8: not everyone knows how these guys got on the field,
27:30
Speaker 8: how they got to where they are the peak of
27:33
Speaker 8: their sporting profession and the best in the world. And
27:36
Speaker 8: everyone has a story. And I loved it when I
27:39
Speaker 8: worked at the University of Washington and learned those stories,
27:41
Speaker 8: and then learn their families and how they got to
27:43
Speaker 8: you dub and Keith Price's family and his mom and
27:46
Speaker 8: coming to all the games, and that's that's sports, and
27:50
Speaker 8: that's what writing about sports at its best, I think,
27:53
Speaker 8: is to give that insight. The draft is full of them.
27:57
Speaker 8: There's two hundred and fifty five stories like that, and
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Speaker 8: they some of them haven't been told yet.
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Speaker 1: Mm hm, no doubt, no doubt about it. By the way,
28:04
Speaker 1: it's one of the reasons I've traded in Stoops from Arizona.
28:07
Speaker 1: He's been there for six years, all six years ris
28:09
Speaker 1: collegiate career. It's one of the reasons why I'm I've
28:13
Speaker 1: already went out and said that he's going to be
28:16
Speaker 1: a seahawk.
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Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, And you're not wrong in thinking that they
28:20
Speaker 8: noticed that six years in particular. Now six years is
28:25
Speaker 8: another matter. And the guy four to twenty five years old,
28:28
Speaker 8: there's some mega boor in the head dresser from Miami
28:33
Speaker 8: who's going to just turn twenty five years old that
28:35
Speaker 8: some people think there's againstant what I think. I want
28:37
Speaker 8: to mention my mock draft for the first round the
28:39
Speaker 8: NFL I just put out this morning. I have Denzel
28:42
Speaker 8: Boston going in the first round. Not a lot of
28:44
Speaker 8: people do. The Washington Huskies wide receiver. Not a lot
28:47
Speaker 8: of people think he's going to go in the first round.
28:49
Speaker 8: But it turns out Howie Roseman and Jed Fish were
28:53
Speaker 8: college roommates at the University of Florida in the mid
28:55
Speaker 8: nineteen nineties, and you don't think Jeed Fish And how
28:58
Speaker 8: does Roseman have been telling them st and insights about
29:01
Speaker 8: Denzel Boston that no other NFL team has and AJ
29:06
Speaker 8: brown rumors being what they are, the smoke, there must
29:09
Speaker 8: be something that most people think AJ Brown is going
29:11
Speaker 8: to get traded with a post June one designation to
29:13
Speaker 8: the Patriots. Denzel Boston twenty three to the Eagles makes
29:16
Speaker 8: a lot of sense to me.
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Speaker 1: That's where I have them going. So there you go.
29:19
Speaker 1: We're on the same page.
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Speaker 8: Hello. All right man, I'm scared I must be paying
29:24
Speaker 8: attention to this. Look at the same stuff you do.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll be listening at ten o'clock. Thank
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Speaker 1: busy being good. Let's start with Peter shrim who takes
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Speaker 1: a lot of pride. He's gone from NFL Network to ESPN,
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Speaker 1: but he takes a lot of pride in nailing these things,
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Speaker 1: maybe as much as anybody out there, and he makes
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Speaker 1: no bones about it. These are not my evaluations. These
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Speaker 1: are what I am hearing from the people in these
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Speaker 1: organizations that I've developed relationships with over the years. So
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Speaker 1: this morning he came out with his final mock draft,
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Speaker 1: and I'll share a little bit of it with you
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Speaker 1: because they are This is truly a mock draft based
33:32
Speaker 1: on rumors. And so number three he does have Arizona
33:36
Speaker 1: taking Jeremiah Love. So it is happening. I put it
33:39
Speaker 1: out in the universe and it is going to happen.
33:42
Speaker 1: It really feels that way. Awful lot of conversation about this.
33:46
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what people's hold up is. I mean,
33:49
Speaker 1: I get it, I get the argument about running backs.
33:53
Speaker 1: I'm sort of there with you. But running backs, maybe
33:58
Speaker 1: you don't draft them high, but there are certain ones,
34:02
Speaker 1: there are special ones that are worth and you can
34:04
Speaker 1: draft him as high as you want. Saquon Barkley put
34:06
Speaker 1: the Eagles organization on his back and won a Super Bowl,
34:09
Speaker 1: you know, and you know it took a little time
34:11
Speaker 1: for him to get to being that good. He had
34:14
Speaker 1: to get fixed by the Giants before they let him walk.
34:17
Speaker 1: But he's an example b Jeon Robinson, Christian mccaffre. If
34:21
Speaker 1: you get a Christian McCaffrey, oh gosh, at three overall,
34:24
Speaker 1: how are you not taking that? Well, that's what you got.
34:27
Speaker 1: He might catch a hundred passes, he might go a
34:29
Speaker 1: thousand yards receiving, and not right out of the bat
34:31
Speaker 1: because they do have some offensive line issues obviously there
34:34
Speaker 1: in Arizona, and a quarterback that probably won't take the
34:37
Speaker 1: heat off of him. But I don't think they're gonna
34:39
Speaker 1: throw him right into the fire. I think he has
34:41
Speaker 1: that ability though eventually in his career. So to me,
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. And as I said, this
34:47
Speaker 1: is what started this entire rumor, was the Cardinals want
34:50
Speaker 1: a face of the franchise. It's not easy to just
34:53
Speaker 1: promote you know, Francis MAUI goa and put him on
34:58
Speaker 1: a big billboard and you know, sell tickets. No, you
35:01
Speaker 1: put a stallion out there on a billboard in that
35:05
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35:08
Speaker 1: sell you some tickets.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and you're going to see the instant benefit
35:14
Speaker 3: of him. I mean, you know, with a line lineman,
35:17
Speaker 3: it's not as glamorous. You're not seeing all the fun.
35:19
Speaker 1: That probably the smarter way to go it is, but
35:21
Speaker 1: build the interior first and then add your pieces. But
35:24
Speaker 1: I just don't think the Cardinals are smart.
35:27
Speaker 3: Well, and they want to make their fans happy, and
35:28
Speaker 3: that's what's going to make their fans happy.
35:30
Speaker 1: He also suggests that yes, he's another one of these
35:33
Speaker 1: that believes in the miracle. At thirty fourth pick, he
35:36
Speaker 1: had another person that has decided that, yes, the Cardinals
35:40
Speaker 1: and the Seahawks are going to trade the Cardinals into
35:44
Speaker 1: the first round with the Seahawks to get Ty Simpson,
35:47
Speaker 1: the quarterback out of Alabama, and the Seahawks drop down
35:50
Speaker 1: to number thirty four. And then that's where his mock ends.
35:53
Speaker 1: He doesn't tell us who the Seahawks are interested in
35:55
Speaker 1: at thirty four, but I'm saying it's trading stoops.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and also shrikes. Come on, don't slack.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly where's your seven round mock? You loser? The
36:03
Speaker 1: Giants are they just throwing shade. My answer is yes,
36:07
Speaker 1: they sit there at five and ten. They've thrown out
36:10
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff out of New York regarding how
36:14
Speaker 1: much they like Jordan Tyson, and I'm not buying it
36:17
Speaker 1: for a second. I think that what the New York
36:21
Speaker 1: Giants are doing is that they're throwing a little bit
36:24
Speaker 1: of Shane shade at the National Football League, making them
36:27
Speaker 1: think that they're looking for a wide receiver had number ten,
36:30
Speaker 1: even though they don't have any interest in doing that.
36:33
Speaker 1: I think they won an offensive lineman at ten, and
36:35
Speaker 1: I think they're going to take Caleb Downs, the safety
36:38
Speaker 1: out of Ohio State, at five. This is the John
36:40
Speaker 1: Harball era. They're going to run things a little differently now.
36:44
Speaker 1: And John Harball wants gamers. He wants guys that just
36:48
Speaker 1: love ball. And his best defensive player on his last
36:52
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens team was a safety. And this is the
36:55
Speaker 1: surest thing in the draft, Caleb Downs. He might not
36:58
Speaker 1: be a home run, but he is a stand up double.
37:01
Speaker 1: He is a stand up triple possibly, and so I
37:05
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the fifth pick. And then
37:07
Speaker 1: at number ten, he wants to move down, so he
37:10
Speaker 1: wants the Ram. The Rams have gone to the Rams.
37:13
Speaker 1: That feels like have let too many people know that
37:16
Speaker 1: they want Makai Lemon, and so I think what they're
37:20
Speaker 1: throwing out there is that they're in the market for
37:22
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and they're throwing around Tyson and they're
37:26
Speaker 1: throwing all out around Lemon at ten and I don't
37:28
Speaker 1: think the Giants have any interest in that. I think
37:31
Speaker 1: they're trying to get the Rams to come up and
37:33
Speaker 1: then if they can move down to thirteen get a
37:36
Speaker 1: couple extra picks, they get the guy they wanted anyway,
37:38
Speaker 1: which I think is going to be one of the Polynesians,
37:42
Speaker 1: whether it's Maui Goa out of Miami the tackle or
37:46
Speaker 1: Iowani the guard out of Penn State. That's what I
37:49
Speaker 1: think the master game plan is with the New York Giants,
37:51
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm reporting as rumor.
37:53
Speaker 2: I like it when teams play mind games at this time.
37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one, I think that's what they're doing.
37:58
Speaker 2: Hey, you got to play all the little draft, right.
38:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, maybe we want a receiver.
38:04
Speaker 2: Yeah oh, I hadn't thought about that before.
38:06
Speaker 1: But no, and apparently this Mackay Lemon people are not
38:10
Speaker 1: thrown off by him.
38:11
Speaker 2: Well, that's weird to me.
38:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think he's gonna end up going pretty
38:15
Speaker 1: I all saw mock this morning as him going seventh, seventh,
38:19
Speaker 1: so Washington, and then.
38:20
Speaker 2: They're going to be like, oh, it's so weird as
38:22
Speaker 2: attitude's bad.
38:23
Speaker 1: We had no idea exactly. So a lot of people
38:26
Speaker 1: talk about trading down, but it doesn't sound like anybody's
38:28
Speaker 1: talking about trading up. I don't think there's going to
38:30
Speaker 1: be nearly as much activity. There was another stocking stuff
38:33
Speaker 1: for rumor yesterday that the Cleveland Browns have all but
38:36
Speaker 1: announced we're trading down. Now. Whether or not they've got
38:39
Speaker 1: a dance partner, we shall see. But they're sitting there
38:42
Speaker 1: at number six. They're apparently in the market for a tackle,
38:45
Speaker 1: and it's the deepest first round position that there is.
38:49
Speaker 1: So maybe Cleveland has four or five guys that they
38:52
Speaker 1: like at that position, would like to move down, but
38:55
Speaker 1: they got to find a dance partner to move up.
38:57
Speaker 1: Dallas has been thrown out there as a possible ability.
39:01
Speaker 1: And then the other spot where I think you could
39:02
Speaker 1: see somebody move up, Detroit's another team. They have maybe
39:07
Speaker 1: the most glaring need in this entire draft. They need
39:11
Speaker 1: a left tackle, they let Taylor Decker walk, they have
39:14
Speaker 1: an immobile quarterback. I think they almost everybody's mocking a
39:19
Speaker 1: tackle to the Detroit Lions. And so if you have
39:24
Speaker 1: a specific tackle you want, if you have in mind,
39:27
Speaker 1: and you're behind them at number seventeen, then I think
39:31
Speaker 1: that could be a slot where people move up to
39:34
Speaker 1: sixteen with the Jets and try to get ahead of
39:37
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, not that you're going to steal who
39:40
Speaker 1: they want, but just to make sure they don't steal
39:42
Speaker 1: who you want, Okay, And so I think maybe Philadelphia
39:46
Speaker 1: could be in that conversation to get up there, and
39:50
Speaker 1: a few others to try to get up ahead of
39:52
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. But those are the teams that are
39:55
Speaker 1: at the back of the first round of the draft.
39:59
Speaker 1: Maybe even a pitch could do that. Pittsburgh seems to
40:01
Speaker 1: be in the market for a tackle an offensive lineman.
40:05
Speaker 1: Maybe they're a team that could do that. Even the
40:07
Speaker 1: New England Patriots who are talking about getting an offensive lineman,
40:11
Speaker 1: could possibly do that. So there you go, just some
40:13
Speaker 1: more fun rumors to throw around here on the day
40:16
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Speaker 2: Draft miss Roses.
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Speaker 1: Listen to Father Draftmas and Ferris Bueller when they tell
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Speaker 1: you you gotta stop and look around otherwise. I mean,
40:37
Speaker 1: I hope you took a lot of photos this Draftmas
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Speaker 2: Oh, my instagram is full of Draftmas fire.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I did an oil painting of the unicorn, oh,
40:46
Speaker 1: celebrating the nineteen eighty three NFL Draft.
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Speaker 2: I bet that is just spectacular.
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Speaker 1: Through an interpretive dance. Oh, you should have seen her
40:54
Speaker 1: Marino moves.
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Speaker 2: Glad I didn't.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I think you're cut yourself short
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Speaker 1: there a little bit.
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Speaker 2: It was really show me a picture of it later.
41:03
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41:32
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42:01
Speaker 1: then tomorrow you're going to have I think Greg would
42:05
Speaker 1: probably be down there. Probably I should look this up,
42:08
Speaker 1: but I already had the Maler Millon mock draft stuff up.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, we of course play our little role in the
42:14
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42:18
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that job for us, and so let
42:24
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42:27
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Speaker 1: That's right ninety three to three KJR dot com. All right,
42:47
Speaker 1: so here we go running backs. I don't know. I
42:50
Speaker 1: guess subconsciously I saved it for last. I really wasn't
42:52
Speaker 1: much of a strategy, just kind of worked out that way.
42:56
Speaker 1: It is, though, the position that the Yawk fans are
43:01
Speaker 1: most concerned about. We lost Ken Walker. Super Bowl MVP
43:05
Speaker 1: Zach Charbone is not going to be available for this
43:07
Speaker 1: team for at least a little bit of the upcoming season.
43:11
Speaker 1: Who's going to tote the rock for the defending world
43:16
Speaker 1: champions this upcoming year. There is an expectation that the
43:20
Speaker 1: Seahawks have to come away with a running back in
43:23
Speaker 1: this draft, and I think there's a preference that they
43:26
Speaker 1: need to come up with away with one early, maybe
43:30
Speaker 1: as early as Day one, certainly no later than day two.
43:35
Speaker 1: As it stands right now, you have three picks in
43:37
Speaker 1: the first two days of the NFL Draft, and I
43:41
Speaker 1: would imagine that most every Seahawk fan I would have
43:44
Speaker 1: bet you had ninety seven point four percent of them
43:47
Speaker 1: believe that they need to come away with a running
43:50
Speaker 1: back with one of those three picks, or at least
43:53
Speaker 1: before the ninety sixth pick in the draft. And so
43:56
Speaker 1: the draft miss catalog is a fixture of our draft.
43:59
Speaker 1: Miss cute righty here on, Chuck and Buck. We have
44:02
Speaker 1: gone through every single position group. I can't go through
44:05
Speaker 1: every single player. That would take too much time, but
44:07
Speaker 1: I am trying to give you at least one player
44:11
Speaker 1: per position in the range where the Seahawks might be drafting.
44:16
Speaker 1: So let's get started. We're going to start outside of
44:19
Speaker 1: our range because we have no shot at this guy.
44:21
Speaker 1: But I always have to mention the top guy in
44:23
Speaker 1: the draft at the position. Jeremiah Love, running back out
44:27
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame. Six feet two hundred and twelve pounds
44:29
Speaker 1: four point three six point forty size, strength, skill, There's
44:33
Speaker 1: nothing Love doesn't have, There's nothing Love doesn't do. Fills
44:38
Speaker 1: our hearts, yeah with Love. He was a Heisman finalist.
44:43
Speaker 1: He did not win the Heisman, but he did win
44:45
Speaker 1: the Maxwell and the Walter Camp Award, which is also
44:48
Speaker 1: given to the top player in college football. He was,
44:51
Speaker 1: of course the Doke Walker Winner, which is the best
44:53
Speaker 1: running back in the country. He had thirteen hundred yards
44:56
Speaker 1: rushing this past season on seven yards carry seven yards
45:02
Speaker 1: per carry, and he has a nose for the end zone.
45:05
Speaker 1: Twenty one touchdowns on catching and receiving touchdowns combined. I mean,
45:10
Speaker 1: this guy really does have it all. I mean, we're
45:12
Speaker 1: talking about McCaffrey level receiving abilities out of the backfield.
45:16
Speaker 1: He's got one hundred catch season upside, thousand yards receiving upside.
45:20
Speaker 1: He has Adrian Peterson abilities as between the tackles running
45:25
Speaker 1: back so he doesn't have to leave the field, speed, power, hands, durability.
45:31
Speaker 1: He does seem to have it all. Many believe that
45:34
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love is the best player in the entire draft.
45:37
Speaker 1: Of course, running backs aren't drafted as high as what
45:41
Speaker 1: they used to be, but there is a belief that
45:43
Speaker 1: he's one of those special guys that will break. He's
45:46
Speaker 1: the outlier breaks the normal mode of waiting on running backs.
45:50
Speaker 1: He could go as high as number three overall to Arizona,
45:54
Speaker 1: and right now most people are kind of leaning that
45:58
Speaker 1: that's going to be Jeremiah Loves destination and it has
46:02
Speaker 1: been a long time coming. To get to that point, because,
46:05
Speaker 1: believe me, he wasn't mentioned to Arizona until a week
46:08
Speaker 1: and a half ago. Unless you follow Chuck and Bucks
46:11
Speaker 1: draft misscoverage.
46:12
Speaker 2: That's right, you brought it up first, That's right.
46:14
Speaker 1: First. Nobody else brought it up first. Nope, h six
46:18
Speaker 1: Schneider Bucks is what's gonna cause nearly your entire passl.
46:22
Speaker 3: I did hear one of the national shows today saying
46:24
Speaker 3: do you think the Seahawks would trade this year's thirty
46:28
Speaker 3: second pick and next year's first round pick and move
46:31
Speaker 3: up to number three with a swap with the Cardinals
46:33
Speaker 3: for Jeremiah Love? And I thought to myself, why would
46:36
Speaker 3: the Cardinals give up that pick for just the thirty
46:38
Speaker 3: second pick and next.
46:39
Speaker 1: Year first draft? Capital doesn't add up?
46:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be stupid, and you're an idiot.
46:42
Speaker 1: That person probably is stupid.
46:44
Speaker 2: Well we've said that before.
46:47
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Jadarian Price five foot ten
46:51
Speaker 1: and a half inches tall, two hundred and three pounds,
46:53
Speaker 1: also out of Notre Dame. Will you selfish hogs hogging
46:57
Speaker 1: all the best running backs can't even make it into
47:01
Speaker 1: the playoff?
47:02
Speaker 2: Rude?
47:03
Speaker 1: Four point four to nine forty time for Jadarian Price
47:06
Speaker 1: thirty five inch vertical leap, ten foot four inch broad jump.
47:10
Speaker 1: He even did the bench press. I don't even care
47:11
Speaker 1: what the number is. I just liked the guy that says,
47:14
Speaker 1: give me the bench I'll do it. Somebody spot me, Yeah,
47:18
Speaker 1: spot me, man. He had to back up Jeremiah Love
47:21
Speaker 1: in college, but that could benefit him greatly in the NFL.
47:25
Speaker 1: Full tread on the tires here with Jadarian Price, And
47:30
Speaker 1: after all, Anthony Keatis was just a kid who hung
47:34
Speaker 1: out with the Red Hot Chili Peppers until the lead
47:37
Speaker 1: singer left the band.
47:39
Speaker 2: That works out here.
47:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know who's just lying around and has
47:43
Speaker 1: better abilities than the guy that you thought walked on
47:47
Speaker 1: the moon. No, maybe Jadarian Price could be better. Rob
47:52
Speaker 1: Rings sort of suggested that at least he went as
47:55
Speaker 1: far as saying he thinks he's a more natural runner
47:58
Speaker 1: of the football than he's smooth. He has great visions,
48:02
Speaker 1: some have called it elite, and he's athletic, as we've
48:05
Speaker 1: already mentioned. Now, he lacks the power of love, and.
48:10
Speaker 2: He's hit a song.
48:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, Juey Lewis, and I like to remind you that
48:15
Speaker 1: you should whenever you get a chance to feel the
48:18
Speaker 1: power of love. Yeah, you should, yeah, because it's something.
48:22
Speaker 5: It's real.
48:24
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think now of how many songs are
48:26
Speaker 2: called power of love lot.
48:28
Speaker 1: So yes, he lacks the power of love, and that's
48:32
Speaker 1: not a good thing because we should all feel the
48:35
Speaker 1: power of love. He's widely considered the clear cut second
48:38
Speaker 1: best running back in this draft. He is also an
48:40
Speaker 1: excellent kick returner, by the way, he returned three in college,
48:43
Speaker 1: including two this past year. I should put him at
48:46
Speaker 1: three Schneiderbucks because that would be the thirty second pick
48:50
Speaker 1: of the draft. But I'm going to cut you a
48:51
Speaker 1: break here on this budget here, and I'm going to
48:54
Speaker 1: say two and a half. That means I do think
48:57
Speaker 1: there's a chance the Hawks could move off of the
48:59
Speaker 1: thirty second pick and still get Jadarian Price out of
49:02
Speaker 1: Notre Dame early in the second round. So I'm gonna
49:05
Speaker 1: put him out there at two and a half Schneiderbucks,
49:08
Speaker 1: all right. Next up, Mike Washington Junior, six foot one
49:11
Speaker 1: inches tall, two hundred and twenty three pounds out of Arkansas.
49:14
Speaker 1: This is the other guy most discussed when it comes
49:17
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks need to get this running back in
49:19
Speaker 1: the draft, and he might be even more discussed than
49:22
Speaker 1: what Price has been. Four three three forty thirty nine
49:26
Speaker 1: inch vertical leap and a ten foot eight inch broad jump.
49:30
Speaker 1: I mean this, those numbers are phenomenal for a man
49:33
Speaker 1: his size, But his numbers as a running back in college,
49:37
Speaker 1: we're only good. He just sat over a thousand yards rushing,
49:40
Speaker 1: but that's on six point four yards per carry. You
49:42
Speaker 1: know how they share the rock at the college level.
49:46
Speaker 1: Not heavily recruited coming out of high school. He stopped
49:49
Speaker 1: at Buffalo and New Mexico State before landing in Fayetteville.
49:53
Speaker 1: Impressive size speed combo, unlike anybody else at this position
49:58
Speaker 1: in the draft. If you've seen some highlight films, even
50:01
Speaker 1: if you haven't, I urge you too, because when I
50:04
Speaker 1: saw his open field running, the guy he reminded me
50:08
Speaker 1: of was ken Walker, A bigger ken Walker. I mean,
50:12
Speaker 1: this guy can move. He's got move Zike Jagger in
50:16
Speaker 1: the open field. Now, he's been knocked for being slow
50:19
Speaker 1: to recognize the hole, which is pretty important to a
50:23
Speaker 1: running back. But I think ken Walker struggled with.
50:25
Speaker 2: Gonna say he really is like ken Walker.
50:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he fumbled way too much in college, but
50:30
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that can be fixed.
50:33
Speaker 1: I mean, Tiki Barber was the biggest fumbler in the
50:35
Speaker 1: National Football League and they fixed it and he was
50:38
Speaker 1: fine and Pro Bowl each Just.
50:40
Speaker 2: Make him carry around a football, yeah all day long.
50:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
50:43
Speaker 2: People knock it out of his hands.
50:44
Speaker 1: And so Mike Washington Junior for the next year as
50:47
Speaker 1: to carry an egg in his hand.
50:49
Speaker 3: I mean, if we learn nothing from the program, it's
50:51
Speaker 3: how to stop fumble problems.
50:53
Speaker 1: For two schneiderbucks. And I'm being generous again. I don't
50:56
Speaker 1: think he's gonna last to the end of the second round.
50:59
Speaker 1: I just don't. But at two Schneider Bucks, that's what
51:02
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's a chance that he does last to
51:05
Speaker 1: the end of the second round. I mean, Greg Bell's
51:07
Speaker 1: gotten going in a fourth for goodness sake. I think
51:10
Speaker 1: that's wishful thinking. But nonetheless, Mike Washington Junior is not
51:14
Speaker 1: a complete prospect. The fumbling issues, other things from his past,
51:19
Speaker 1: but man, he's a talent.
51:20
Speaker 2: And we always have said Greg is the king of
51:22
Speaker 2: wishful thinking?
51:25
Speaker 1: Is that what we said.
51:25
Speaker 3: I'm just going to put as many song references as
51:28
Speaker 3: I can into one segment.
51:31
Speaker 1: All right, For one schneider Buck. I'm going to give
51:33
Speaker 1: you two options here. First, a local one, Jonah Coleman,
51:37
Speaker 1: five foot eight inches tall, two hundred and twenty pounds
51:40
Speaker 1: out of Washington. You've seen him, yeah, I have dudes
51:44
Speaker 1: built like a tank, just absolute tank. Didn't run the
51:48
Speaker 1: forty at the combine though, so maybe hiding a lack
51:51
Speaker 1: of speed, which is already kind of believed anyway, And
51:55
Speaker 1: despite his build, I don't know, doesn't seem to run
51:59
Speaker 1: with as much powers you might expect. I kind of
52:02
Speaker 1: thought when he came to Washington, I was going to
52:05
Speaker 1: see just play after play of him just trucking fools,
52:07
Speaker 1: and I don't think we really saw that. He doesn't
52:10
Speaker 1: really even run that way. He's more trying to like
52:14
Speaker 1: slide off of guys rather than run through them. But
52:17
Speaker 1: he is a skilled runner. He can catch balls out
52:20
Speaker 1: of the backfield. He was a team captain. He rarely
52:23
Speaker 1: fumbles unlike Washington, And as you're gonna bear witness here
52:28
Speaker 1: at eight thirty if you haven't already, he is just
52:31
Speaker 1: a hell of a young man, great character guy right here, which,
52:34
Speaker 1: of course the Seahawks lean very heavily toward Jonah could
52:38
Speaker 1: slip all the way to day three of the draft.
52:41
Speaker 1: I mean you want him to be Earl Campbell the
52:44
Speaker 1: way he looks in a uniform, but looks, of course
52:47
Speaker 1: can be deceiving. He's probably closer to you know, you
52:52
Speaker 1: know my name is Earl than Earl Campbell. But yeah,
52:57
Speaker 1: but one Schneiderbuck is what I'm going to value him at,
53:01
Speaker 1: which means I think he's gonna last into the early
53:04
Speaker 1: day three on Saturday. Okay, off the board quickly on
53:08
Speaker 1: day three, but I don't think he's gonna get taken
53:11
Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday, just a hunch. We shall see.
53:14
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see where he ends up, though.
53:16
Speaker 1: How about Emmitt Johnson five 't ten inches tall, two
53:19
Speaker 1: hundred and two pounds out of Nebraska. He ran a
53:21
Speaker 1: very very disappointing four five six forty at the combine.
53:26
Speaker 1: Johnson's forty times certainly disappointing. So how might one respond
53:30
Speaker 1: to those who doubt that he has the speed that
53:32
Speaker 1: will translate to the National Football League? Will you quite
53:35
Speaker 1: simply crack out the ultimate football retort?
53:39
Speaker 5: Do you not?
53:40
Speaker 2: What's that?
53:40
Speaker 1: Put on the tape? Oh that's what you would say,
53:44
Speaker 1: Just put on my tape. Emmett Johnson's got great tape. Okay,
53:48
Speaker 1: he is a dog, runs hard, runs smart, never seems
53:54
Speaker 1: to tire, never backs down, which could end up being
53:58
Speaker 1: a problem. He's a real good college running back. But
54:02
Speaker 1: there's a reason the combine exists, and measurables do matter.
54:06
Speaker 1: They just don't mean everything, and they don't tell the
54:09
Speaker 1: entire story. So yes, I would urge all the NFL
54:13
Speaker 1: teams because I know none of them have done it yet.
54:16
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. But they're listening now, So tell him.
54:18
Speaker 1: What put on the tape. O. Johnson rush for fifteen
54:21
Speaker 1: hundred yards in Nebraska this year, twelve touchdowns. He also
54:25
Speaker 1: caught forty six passes and another three touchdowns. That's for
54:30
Speaker 1: per game that he's catching out of the backfield. Jeremiah
54:32
Speaker 1: Love didn't put up those numbers at Notre Dame and
54:35
Speaker 1: that Johnson did at Nebraska. But another huge concern, and
54:39
Speaker 1: I think this is the biggest concern when it comes
54:42
Speaker 1: to Johnson, is the way that he runs is great.
54:45
Speaker 1: You love it, it's admirable, but he's not the biggest
54:48
Speaker 1: guy in the world at two to two. He is
54:50
Speaker 1: going to have to develop a lower gear or he's
54:54
Speaker 1: just not going to last in the National Football League.
54:56
Speaker 1: It's why a few people have soured on Johnson, even
55:00
Speaker 1: though he came out early to enter the NFL draft.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to put him at one Schneider buck as well,
55:05
Speaker 1: so that gives you a couple of options there in
55:08
Speaker 1: rounds four, maybe into round five at running back. If
55:12
Speaker 1: you don't want to spend one of your top three
55:14
Speaker 1: picks on a running back, and you're John Schneider, then
55:17
Speaker 1: maybe you want to go early day three. There's a
55:19
Speaker 1: couple options for you.
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Speaker 8: All right.
55:21
Speaker 1: Finally, fifty cent piece on Eli heiden Rick.
55:25
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, always a name that I have to guess.
55:28
Speaker 1: Six foot, one hundred and ninety eight pounds out of Navy.
55:31
Speaker 1: What an interesting prospect. Must have hide and Rick drafted?
55:38
Speaker 1: Excuse me. Most have hide and Rick getting drafted late sixth,
55:42
Speaker 1: seventh round. Some have him going completely undrafted. I mean,
55:47
Speaker 1: he played in such an old school offense at Navy
55:51
Speaker 1: that it's now seen as gimmicky. It was like the
55:55
Speaker 1: last thing that's gimmicky. It's seen as gimmicky because no
55:58
Speaker 1: one else except Army runs the offense. But CBS Sports
56:02
Speaker 1: draft guys, and that's a collaboration of some guys that
56:06
Speaker 1: we like. Their analysis, they have him rated as the
56:10
Speaker 1: seventy sixth best player in this draft. That's early third
56:15
Speaker 1: round for a guy that's not even really a running back.
56:20
Speaker 1: I mean, heideen Reich. Not that Navy really has wide receivers,
56:24
Speaker 1: but he was more of a wide receiver than he
56:27
Speaker 1: was a running back out of Navy. And so he caught.
56:33
Speaker 1: He caught fifty carry the ball just seventy seven times.
56:36
Speaker 1: His last season, he caught fifty one passes. We all
56:39
Speaker 1: know that Navy never throws the football, but he caught
56:42
Speaker 1: fifty one passes. That is a record. That is a
56:45
Speaker 1: program record there for the Naval Academy. Is there a
56:49
Speaker 1: creative oc out there, Ryan Florey, maybe that can find
56:53
Speaker 1: a wingback kind of role for heide and Reich. Could
56:58
Speaker 1: he really be an fell between the tackles running back.
57:02
Speaker 1: Is that possible for him now that he's committing his
57:05
Speaker 1: entire life to football. It's kind of like drafting a
57:09
Speaker 1: utility infielder and yet he's never worn a glove. Yeah, exactly,
57:16
Speaker 1: so make what you will of him. But there's obviously
57:20
Speaker 1: some intrigue. Obviously, the toughness element is there. I mean
57:23
Speaker 1: He's not Greg Bell army tough right coming out may yeah, exactly,
57:28
Speaker 1: but he's tougher than say stoop tough.
57:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, most are.
57:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know. It's an intriguing prospect. I
57:34
Speaker 1: hope he gets drafted. I'm curious to see what he
57:37
Speaker 1: could become at the next level. Maybe that's certainly going
57:41
Speaker 1: to get a special teams guy out of it, But
57:43
Speaker 1: I think he is going to get drafted. You can
57:45
Speaker 1: have him on your board for just fifty sense of
57:49
Speaker 1: your schneider Buck payroll. So Ashley, it's now you're up.
57:54
Speaker 1: You have to circle a running back in our draft
57:56
Speaker 1: miss catalog. And I know we've talked about a lot
57:58
Speaker 1: more than just the ones I mentioned in here today,
58:01
Speaker 1: So you could even go off the map if you
58:03
Speaker 1: would like. But because of time, that's as many as
58:06
Speaker 1: I could get to.
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Speaker 3: No, and I appreciate that. I don't think I need
58:09
Speaker 3: to go off the map. I am worried about Mike
58:13
Speaker 3: Washington Junior's fumble issues. That is the thing that sticks
58:17
Speaker 3: out that bothers me. Also him being slow to recognize
58:20
Speaker 3: the whole because the second he said that, I thought
58:21
Speaker 3: of Ken Walker and the frustrations that people have had
58:23
Speaker 3: with Ken Walker over the years.
58:25
Speaker 1: But if we're trying to replace Ken White.
58:26
Speaker 3: But if we're trying to but that's another thing we've
58:28
Speaker 3: talked about, right, is that we can't but going for doppelgangers,
58:31
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out.
58:32
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Judian Price.
58:35
Speaker 1: Hey, look, if they end up taking him, I think
58:37
Speaker 1: there will be a little bit of a Okay, okay, good, okay, Yep, yep, yep,
58:42
Speaker 1: let's go. That's our guy, let's go. I don't think
58:46
Speaker 1: there's going to be much disappointment. No, even if they
58:49
Speaker 1: stuck at thirty two and picked him, that's the number
58:52
Speaker 1: two running back on the board. A lot of people
58:53
Speaker 1: think he'll be perfect in this system. I think there
58:56
Speaker 1: will be a lot of RELI I think if we
58:58
Speaker 1: don't take Jadarium Price, there'll be some yeah, why didn't.
59:01
Speaker 5: We take you there?
59:02
Speaker 1: Bryce? Yeah?
59:03
Speaker 3: Right, oh, absolutely, and the fact that he's a good
59:05
Speaker 3: kick returner too.
59:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
59:07
Speaker 1: I am gonna circle Washington. I have to. I have
59:11
Speaker 1: been on Washington since before anyone else was on Washington
59:16
Speaker 1: really here in the marketplace. So I'm gonna go ahead
59:19
Speaker 1: and go ahead and stamp Mike Washington Junior. I'm gonna
59:23
Speaker 1: circle him in the Draft Miss catalog. So there you go,
59:26
Speaker 1: and tomorrow our wish list will be completed. Ashley and
59:30
Speaker 1: I will do an exercise. We will compile all of
59:33
Speaker 1: this information, break it down in a very small presentation,
59:37
Speaker 1: and then ultimately put together our draft Miss wish list
59:41
Speaker 1: for Santa Schneider for Thursday. So that will be on
59:45
Speaker 1: tomorrow's program.
59:46
Speaker 2: Can't wait, There you go.
59:48
Speaker 1: Coming up next. I don't think we've ever had an
59:50
Speaker 1: interview with someone that was featured in the Draft Miss
59:54
Speaker 1: catalog in the very next segment, but we're gonna change
59:57
Speaker 1: that too. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
1:00:01
Speaker 1: It's draftless time.
1:00:03
Speaker 5: It's traff miss chime.
1:00:05
Speaker 9: Smell of pig skin in the air, it's trapless chime. Yeah,
1:00:10
Speaker 9: draftless chimes. There's speculation everywhere. Some teams are traded off
1:00:17
Speaker 9: and some are straight down.
1:00:19
Speaker 5: They hope to make.
1:00:20
Speaker 9: The bulls the every single round.
1:00:23
Speaker 5: It's trapless time.
1:00:24
Speaker 9: It's trap miss chime, A magical time of the Hey.
1:00:30
Speaker 1: Get that song stuck in Matt's head again. Our listener, Matt, Yeah,
1:00:36
Speaker 1: over the weekend, YEP, sitting there making pancakes or something
1:00:41
Speaker 1: and can't stop singing the Draftmas song. Yeah, I heard
1:00:46
Speaker 1: last night that Sophie and Gina were out underneath the lights,
1:00:50
Speaker 1: outside under the starlights, slow dancing to this.
1:00:53
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh yeah, hold on, he's got something to
1:00:56
Speaker 3: say about that.
1:00:57
Speaker 1: Just so, does he really? Huh? Surprise?
1:01:00
Speaker 10: Hey, hey, hey, hey hey, that's between me and missus
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Speaker 10: clause here.
1:01:04
Speaker 3: Many plus we all know they danced to have a
1:01:08
Speaker 3: wallar Christmas.
1:01:09
Speaker 10: Yeah, just because we're trying to make some little elves
1:01:11
Speaker 10: as none of your business, all right, pal oh, I
1:01:14
Speaker 10: can't wait to meet You're cucumbering your own salad.
1:01:18
Speaker 1: Can't wait to meet little drafty mallerh that'll never happen.
1:01:23
Speaker 5: Better chance of you having an alf than me, by
1:01:25
Speaker 5: the way, buddy.
1:01:26
Speaker 1: Yeah probably.
1:01:30
Speaker 5: Yeah.
1:01:30
Speaker 1: Might just get reckless one of these fridays.
1:01:32
Speaker 5: Why not? Why not reckless at breakfast? Why not just
1:01:36
Speaker 5: go for it?
1:01:36
Speaker 10: Man live on the radio, We were actually talking to
1:01:39
Speaker 10: the other day about if we all know where we
1:01:42
Speaker 10: were conceived?
1:01:43
Speaker 5: That was a topic on the radio show. We had two.
1:01:46
Speaker 10: Choices to continue talking about the Marina bullpen or talk
1:01:50
Speaker 10: about where we were conceived. I believe I was conceived
1:01:54
Speaker 10: in Sweden, I'm not one thousand percent certain about that.
1:01:58
Speaker 8: See, I was.
1:01:59
Speaker 1: Thinking like in the back of an oldsmobile. But you're
1:02:02
Speaker 1: talking about right.
1:02:04
Speaker 10: Well city, I mean, if there's a if there's a
1:02:05
Speaker 10: foreign country that you can go with first grade, but
1:02:08
Speaker 10: if it's domestic then uh. And then we were talking
1:02:11
Speaker 10: about how that's gonna be our nickname moving forward.
1:02:13
Speaker 5: So Dick Fane is now known as park bench.
1:02:17
Speaker 10: Yeah, Jackson's known as a public shower, Ashley's r V park.
1:02:26
Speaker 2: If you could ever get my mom to go camping,
1:02:28
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
1:02:28
Speaker 10: Okay, isn't there a draft tomorrow?
1:02:32
Speaker 5: What the hell are we doing here?
1:02:33
Speaker 1: I think there is? Yeah, exactly.
1:02:35
Speaker 10: This is one of the this is we got the
1:02:37
Speaker 10: mock draft today, one of the signature events of the
1:02:40
Speaker 10: Draftmas holiday season.
1:02:42
Speaker 5: Hey, if it's nothing around here.
1:02:43
Speaker 1: If it is not one of the signature events, my
1:02:45
Speaker 1: name's not Ally Way Powell. I'll tell you that much.
1:02:48
Speaker 5: There you go. Well, I mean just think about it, man.
1:02:51
Speaker 10: You got the the start of the Draftmas shopping season,
1:02:53
Speaker 10: which has already begun. You got the draft Miss Ball,
1:02:57
Speaker 10: the lighting of the Draft Miss Tree or Manora in
1:02:59
Speaker 10: the Square, and then of course the popular Draftmas Kids
1:03:04
Speaker 10: Carnival put on me the Downtown Draftmas Association.
1:03:07
Speaker 5: So yeah, this is big.
1:03:08
Speaker 1: I wanted to go big with Draftica couldn't just say
1:03:11
Speaker 1: you just couldn't get the sport sponsorship for it. So
1:03:14
Speaker 1: we we're now Yeah, a little light on that right now, but.
1:03:17
Speaker 5: We're legal people, man. So I'm not surprised to hear that.
1:03:23
Speaker 1: David Softy Maller is with us, and tonight today this
1:03:26
Speaker 1: afternoon does mark the Is it the twenty eighth annual
1:03:30
Speaker 1: Maller Milan mit speed, it's the twenty eighth.
1:03:32
Speaker 10: We've been running apparently a promo that says twenty seventh,
1:03:35
Speaker 10: and it's the twenty eighth.
1:03:36
Speaker 5: I see.
1:03:37
Speaker 10: Here's the thing, man, When we did this in ninety nine,
1:03:39
Speaker 10: and I don't remember exactly where we were. I think
1:03:41
Speaker 10: we were at Ozzie's up there on Queen Anne. I'm
1:03:44
Speaker 10: not totally sure where we were, but I'm pretty sure
1:03:46
Speaker 10: it was Ozzie's and it was the ninety nine and
1:03:49
Speaker 10: I think a lot of people back then looked at
1:03:51
Speaker 10: that as kind of like a like like a gerbil,
1:03:53
Speaker 10: you know, in a test tube, like an experiment type
1:03:56
Speaker 10: of thing, like the pilot to see if this will work.
1:03:59
Speaker 10: So nobody really counted it as the first show. But
1:04:03
Speaker 10: I'm counting it. I mean, we put in the fricking effort.
1:04:06
Speaker 10: I'm certainly counting it. So yeah, that was the That
1:04:09
Speaker 10: was the Tim Couch year, Donovan McNabb, Achilles Smith, Egrin, James,
1:04:14
Speaker 10: Ricky Williams, Tory Holt, Champ Bailey year, Seahawks draft and
1:04:18
Speaker 10: a guy that I know you remember very well from
1:04:20
Speaker 10: his college days out of Saganaw State, Lamar King at
1:04:24
Speaker 10: number twenty two overall with their first pick they got
1:04:27
Speaker 10: that year.
1:04:27
Speaker 5: I betive.
1:04:28
Speaker 10: Yeah, I believe they got that pick from the Cowboys
1:04:30
Speaker 10: in the Galloway deal.
1:04:31
Speaker 5: I'm not sure, but anyway, Yeah, this is this is
1:04:33
Speaker 5: twenty eight years.
1:04:34
Speaker 1: Twenty eight years. I'm not sure how old the huge
1:04:38
Speaker 1: oldest son is, but do we have a match. Here
1:04:41
Speaker 1: is his name, Dino's pub Millan is that his nickname?
1:04:46
Speaker 5: Could be? Could be?
1:04:48
Speaker 10: I was wondering, you know, about halfway through the draft,
1:04:50
Speaker 10: where the hell the melons were?
1:04:52
Speaker 5: And so you know now we know?
1:04:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we know.
1:04:57
Speaker 10: Well, I'd like to be conceived of a mock draft. Geez,
1:05:02
Speaker 10: your parents were horny, Holy.
1:05:04
Speaker 1: Cow, they really love that Lamar King pick.
1:05:09
Speaker 5: Let's celebrate, honey, Let's.
1:05:12
Speaker 1: Go into our Lamar king size bed real quick.
1:05:16
Speaker 5: So that's why you're the best.
1:05:17
Speaker 10: That's why you're the heavyweight champion of Seattle sports talk radio.
1:05:22
Speaker 10: That's why, that's why you get paid the big bucks
1:05:24
Speaker 10: around here.
1:05:25
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of work. I mean you put a
1:05:27
Speaker 1: ton of work. People don't know, but you put a
1:05:29
Speaker 1: ton of work into this draft coverage, and not just
1:05:33
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, but obviously you're our leader on Thursday and
1:05:37
Speaker 1: Friday night as well. So I mean, so you certainly
1:05:43
Speaker 1: have gotten swept up in the draft. Miesstry. You better
1:05:45
Speaker 1: like this stuff because I love it. You got to
1:05:48
Speaker 1: put a lot of blood, sweat and tears into this.
1:05:50
Speaker 10: Well here's the thing, man, So as far as the
1:05:52
Speaker 10: work that goes into it, I mean, Millon's in charge
1:05:54
Speaker 10: of all of the prospects and breaking down the film
1:05:56
Speaker 10: and YadA, YadA, YadA. And it's funny because by about
1:05:59
Speaker 10: Tuesday night for the mock draft. So in other words,
1:06:01
Speaker 10: last night we called each other. And this has been
1:06:04
Speaker 10: becoming more and more of a problem as we get older.
1:06:07
Speaker 10: I'm like, is your neck hurting you?
1:06:09
Speaker 8: Right?
1:06:09
Speaker 5: Like my neck is hurting me? My upper back.
1:06:12
Speaker 10: I'm staring at a computer screen every night for the
1:06:14
Speaker 10: last week and a half, and the hardest thing for
1:06:16
Speaker 10: me is actually these draft team capsules, because there's a
1:06:19
Speaker 10: bunch of information that I'm telling you guys. If I
1:06:22
Speaker 10: could rip off from like Athlons or some prodraft express
1:06:26
Speaker 10: dot com website, I would do it. But the stuff
1:06:29
Speaker 10: that I'm looking for, it's just not out there in
1:06:31
Speaker 10: one spot. I even tried AI, even tried chat GPT
1:06:35
Speaker 10: or what is a claude, wherever the hell that thing is.
1:06:38
Speaker 10: I've tried all this stuff, and it doesn't do it
1:06:40
Speaker 10: for me.
1:06:40
Speaker 5: Man. So yeah, I always tell myself, you know what
1:06:43
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do.
1:06:44
Speaker 10: I'm gonna do one team a day for thirty two
1:06:46
Speaker 10: days leading up to the draft, and then I do
1:06:48
Speaker 10: none of that and they cram them all in starting
1:06:50
Speaker 10: on Monday night. So that's what we've been doing the
1:06:52
Speaker 10: last couple of nights. But yeah, looking forward to it.
1:06:54
Speaker 10: You know, a lot of people I know are down
1:06:56
Speaker 10: on the draft as far as the quality of the
1:06:57
Speaker 10: players in this draft. That I get that, it's not
1:07:00
Speaker 10: a great year to have a bunch of draft picks.
1:07:02
Speaker 10: So I'm kind of thankful the Hawks have four this
1:07:04
Speaker 10: year and then what for now? I think, what is
1:07:06
Speaker 10: it eleven or twelve next year? Whatever it is. So
1:07:08
Speaker 10: this is actually a good year to not have a
1:07:10
Speaker 10: lot of draft picks. But the Hawks have a lot
1:07:12
Speaker 10: of needs, man, I mean, all of a sudden, dude,
1:07:14
Speaker 10: who we're talking about, Anthony Bradford, like three months ago?
1:07:18
Speaker 10: Is the obvious need? You got to go out and
1:07:19
Speaker 10: get a right guard?
1:07:20
Speaker 5: Right?
1:07:20
Speaker 10: How many times have you heard people say that? Now,
1:07:22
Speaker 10: maybe the right guard spot might be third or fourth
1:07:25
Speaker 10: on the list, for god's sake.
1:07:26
Speaker 1: So what's the lowest year willing to go longest you're
1:07:30
Speaker 1: willing to wait for a running back in this process?
1:07:33
Speaker 5: Yeah?
1:07:33
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna just grab one to
1:07:36
Speaker 10: grab one, right. I mean, if the guy's there, the
1:07:39
Speaker 10: guy's there, right. I mean, I don't know. There's going
1:07:42
Speaker 10: to be dudes cut in August. You know, when rosters
1:07:44
Speaker 10: come out. There's going to be camp casualties, there's going
1:07:47
Speaker 10: to be trades made. I know the guy from the
1:07:49
Speaker 10: Dolphins keeps saying that a Chan's not available, but why
1:07:52
Speaker 10: do you get sweep in the pot a little bit?
1:07:53
Speaker 5: Make them available?
1:07:54
Speaker 10: I mean it's you know, April twenty second and the
1:07:56
Speaker 10: guy hasn't signed a contract for twenty twenty seven.
1:08:00
Speaker 8: A J. Brown.
1:08:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna be a Patriot by Monday.
1:08:05
Speaker 10: So I don't know, you don't want to flip out
1:08:07
Speaker 10: too much because you never know, you know, there's other
1:08:09
Speaker 10: avenues to make this thing better. But god, I would
1:08:12
Speaker 10: love to see them just bring in a body for
1:08:14
Speaker 10: another just for competition. Yeah, I mean, in the higher
1:08:18
Speaker 10: they draft that guy, if it's priced at thirty two,
1:08:20
Speaker 10: or maybe Mike Washington in the second or third round,
1:08:23
Speaker 10: maybe Jonah Coleman late Friday, early Saturday, whatever, a guy
1:08:27
Speaker 10: like that, that guy is gonna be. We are never
1:08:30
Speaker 10: going to drool this much over a third or a
1:08:34
Speaker 10: late round running back. Then we will if they take
1:08:38
Speaker 10: a guy this weekend, because whoever that guy is, even
1:08:41
Speaker 10: if he's in the sixth round, if they trade down
1:08:43
Speaker 10: to the whatever, right wherever that dude's taken, they're like,
1:08:47
Speaker 10: oh God, they got a running back, you know, and
1:08:48
Speaker 10: he's gonna automatically be like the savior of that running
1:08:52
Speaker 10: back room. And that's probably gonna be a little unfair.
1:08:55
Speaker 10: So we're gonna just drool way more over a running
1:08:59
Speaker 10: back taken this year, no matter what round he's taken
1:09:02
Speaker 10: in than any other one the Seahawks have ever selected.
1:09:05
Speaker 10: I remember when they drafted Chris Carson in the seventh round.
1:09:07
Speaker 10: We were like, whatever, its the seventh round draft pick.
1:09:09
Speaker 10: But if they take a running back on the seventh
1:09:11
Speaker 10: round now, and that's the only running back they take
1:09:13
Speaker 10: in this year's draft, that guy, the spotlight on that
1:09:16
Speaker 10: guy will be brighter than any other seventh round running
1:09:19
Speaker 10: back they've ever drafted in franchise history.
1:09:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, He'll be in the mix, no doubt about it.
1:09:23
Speaker 1: Do you have a special pick? I mean, do you
1:09:26
Speaker 1: have anybody circled, anybody in mind, regardless of position, that
1:09:30
Speaker 1: you want Seahawks to come away with.
1:09:32
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, guys, I gotta be honest with you, man,
1:09:35
Speaker 10: I don't know what it is, but I've been staring
1:09:36
Speaker 10: at this bazantest kid, the guard at A and M
1:09:39
Speaker 10: for a while. I just think, and I've always thought this,
1:09:43
Speaker 10: that it's all about the line of scrimmage.
1:09:45
Speaker 5: Man.
1:09:45
Speaker 10: I mean, the Huskies when they went to the National
1:09:48
Speaker 10: Championship Game, they did it with the best offensive line
1:09:51
Speaker 10: in football. Seahawks, when they won their first NFC championship,
1:09:55
Speaker 10: did it with the best offensive line in football twenty thirteen.
1:09:58
Speaker 10: People kind of tend to forget, and you know, maybe
1:10:01
Speaker 10: it wasn't worthy of it, but that twenty thirteen offensive
1:10:03
Speaker 10: line was the highest paid offensive line in the NFL.
1:10:07
Speaker 10: So I think you've got a shot here. With Charles
1:10:10
Speaker 10: Cross and Abe Lucas signed, Gray's abels got at minimum
1:10:13
Speaker 10: four years left if you include the fifth year option.
1:10:16
Speaker 10: You found something, I think, and settle down the center
1:10:19
Speaker 10: spot in Jalen Sundale. If you can grab a guard
1:10:22
Speaker 10: and I'm not even talking about at thirty two, maybe
1:10:24
Speaker 10: you move down and get this guy. Maybe somebody moves
1:10:27
Speaker 10: up for a Ty Simpson or whatever, and you find
1:10:29
Speaker 10: yourself early second round, I think a Bizontest at right guard.
1:10:33
Speaker 10: Can you just imagine what that offensive line could look
1:10:36
Speaker 10: like for the next three or four years and how
1:10:40
Speaker 10: much you could get away with with a line like that.
1:10:44
Speaker 5: I love it.
1:10:45
Speaker 10: I love the idea of just continuing to pound the
1:10:47
Speaker 10: offensive line. But I also love the idea of continuing
1:10:50
Speaker 10: just to give Mike McDonald as many missiles as he
1:10:53
Speaker 10: needs on defense. Right I mean, I don't know about you, guys.
1:10:56
Speaker 10: I think the best thing this team does right now
1:10:58
Speaker 10: is Mike McDonald's brain. I agree, it's the most valuable thing.
1:11:02
Speaker 10: They just keep feeding that brain with you know, creatine
1:11:05
Speaker 10: and andro and you know whatever steroid fish paralyzer you
1:11:10
Speaker 10: can find.
1:11:11
Speaker 5: Just do it.
1:11:12
Speaker 10: Man, Give that guy as many freaking bullets as he
1:11:14
Speaker 10: can fire on defense.
1:11:17
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, but I think you just answered it.
1:11:19
Speaker 1: I mean, when I got here, the common phrase around
1:11:22
Speaker 1: draft time and John, we trust because when I got here,
1:11:25
Speaker 1: you're coming off two soaper Bowl appearances. John Schneiders had
1:11:29
Speaker 1: built the team around just some great years of drafting,
1:11:33
Speaker 1: and then things got all leverage, right, Yeah, over the
1:11:37
Speaker 1: course of not just a couple of years, but for
1:11:40
Speaker 1: most of the time I was here. And now in
1:11:42
Speaker 1: the last three years, he's just been on fire, maybe
1:11:45
Speaker 1: even more so than he was back in the day.
1:11:48
Speaker 1: And I was going to ask you what do you
1:11:49
Speaker 1: credit that to? And I think you already answered it,
1:11:53
Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I think it's Mike McDonald.
1:11:55
Speaker 1: I think it's Mike pairing with John and them seeing
1:11:58
Speaker 1: eye to why that has made us a Super Bowl
1:12:01
Speaker 1: champion before we were the Seahawks are supposed to be
1:12:05
Speaker 1: and could make them again a couple more times. Here
1:12:08
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years.
1:12:09
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just again, I mean, it's the scheme, right.
1:12:12
Speaker 10: I mean we've had games where there's been a lot
1:12:15
Speaker 10: of guys out and it didn't matter. I mean, the
1:12:17
Speaker 10: one game that they really caught up to him was
1:12:19
Speaker 10: the Tampa game, and they scored three four points of
1:12:21
Speaker 10: that game they probably should have won for God's sakes, right,
1:12:23
Speaker 10: So I don't know, man, I just think the more
1:12:26
Speaker 10: you like I remember when the Seahawks drafted Lawrence Jackson,
1:12:31
Speaker 10: not Lauren Jackson, not the storm player, Lawrence Jackson out
1:12:35
Speaker 10: of USC and they had Grant Wistrom and they had
1:12:40
Speaker 10: Bryce Fisher. This is coming off the Super Bowl year,
1:12:43
Speaker 10: and I remember people say, what are we doing that for?
1:12:45
Speaker 10: You know, we got Bryce and Grant. Well, you need
1:12:47
Speaker 10: depth and you need rotation, and there's no position on
1:12:51
Speaker 10: the football team that rotates.
1:12:52
Speaker 5: More than the defensive line.
1:12:54
Speaker 10: And you got Mike Homgrin, who's a phenomenal play coler
1:12:56
Speaker 10: on offense, so you have his brain, but keep giving
1:12:58
Speaker 10: the defense more more more bombs to drop on people.
1:13:01
Speaker 10: I think it's just that philosophy, Like, you guys figure
1:13:05
Speaker 10: out who the player is, right, I don't care you're
1:13:07
Speaker 10: the one watching the film, you're the one doing the meetings,
1:13:09
Speaker 10: you're the one going to the combine, you're the one
1:13:11
Speaker 10: doing the scouting. To me, it's about the philosophy, right,
1:13:14
Speaker 10: Like the philosophy of just making this offensive line as
1:13:17
Speaker 10: badass as you can. The philosophy of giving yourself eight
1:13:21
Speaker 10: to nine guys deep on your defensive line like we
1:13:24
Speaker 10: had in twenty thirteen when they had that phenomenal rotation
1:13:27
Speaker 10: and Cliff Avril and you know, guys like that Michael
1:13:30
Speaker 10: Bennett were backups on that football team.
1:13:32
Speaker 5: Right.
1:13:32
Speaker 10: So that's the philosophy for me. Go out and find
1:13:36
Speaker 10: the players that you've put the work in that you
1:13:38
Speaker 10: trust to be Seahawks. But the philosophy is what I'm
1:13:41
Speaker 10: looking at today or tomorrow. Obviously, running back room needs
1:13:45
Speaker 10: some help. I think all of us would pass out
1:13:48
Speaker 10: if we woke up in week one and you had
1:13:51
Speaker 10: Cam Akers Jacartia, right, Zach Sharboney coming off the knee,
1:13:57
Speaker 10: who's not even going to be ready by week one,
1:13:58
Speaker 10: Emmanuel Wilson from Green Bay. If that's your running back room,
1:14:03
Speaker 10: I mean that is like a that's like a bottom
1:14:05
Speaker 10: eighth running back room in the NFL. Terrible on paper,
1:14:09
Speaker 10: So that's got to be addressed obviously.
1:14:11
Speaker 1: That's I mean, you're playing with house money right now,
1:14:13
Speaker 1: a little bit, yeah, or there's no differ, or you
1:14:17
Speaker 1: can argue that the opportunity to go back to back
1:14:20
Speaker 1: doesn't come along very off for sure.
1:14:22
Speaker 5: But you got a pounce.
1:14:24
Speaker 1: I mean, I just saw they just did a segment
1:14:26
Speaker 1: on the television that this whatever show was on, and
1:14:29
Speaker 1: it was who needs to have a great draft, And
1:14:32
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, the Seahawks aren't anywhere near that list,
1:14:36
Speaker 1: right because they're so sound. They's so you know, a
1:14:39
Speaker 1: young team that's already won a Super Bowl, and it's
1:14:41
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of schedule. But this is the
1:14:42
Speaker 1: time to get fat, time to get greedy, time to like,
1:14:45
Speaker 1: you know, build up your stores for you know, some
1:14:48
Speaker 1: unforeseen event that happens in the next couple of years.
1:14:51
Speaker 10: Well that's why I'd go after each in. So I'm
1:14:54
Speaker 10: been saying that on the air for weeks. Now that
1:14:56
Speaker 10: I do it, I mean, I would, I would offer
1:14:58
Speaker 10: him thirty two and you know, maybe three owing you know,
1:15:00
Speaker 10: stocking stuff for for next.
1:15:02
Speaker 5: Year, with all the pitch you got next season, and
1:15:04
Speaker 5: go get the guy.
1:15:05
Speaker 10: I mean you know, it's like all the dudes that
1:15:06
Speaker 10: are out right now, and again we're talking about the
1:15:08
Speaker 10: roster in April versus the roster in September.
1:15:10
Speaker 5: I get it.
1:15:11
Speaker 10: But imagine if you woke up tomorrow and you played
1:15:14
Speaker 10: the Super Bowl and the injury report came out and
1:15:16
Speaker 10: Reek Wolin, Zach Sharbonn and Kenny Walker, boy A Mafy,
1:15:19
Speaker 10: Kobe Bryant, we're all inactive.
1:15:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be.
1:15:21
Speaker 5: Like, what the hell?
1:15:22
Speaker 8: Yeah?
1:15:22
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, And.
1:15:23
Speaker 5: That's what you're dealing with today.
1:15:25
Speaker 10: So how much of that, how much of those little
1:15:28
Speaker 10: holes that we just talked about, that dropping talent whatever,
1:15:32
Speaker 10: how much of that can they rectify between now and
1:15:35
Speaker 10: really the end of the trade deadline? I would think
1:15:37
Speaker 10: in like October, right, how much of that can they
1:15:39
Speaker 10: rectify between now and the stretch run of the NFL season?
1:15:43
Speaker 10: How much of that can they rectify between now and September?
1:15:46
Speaker 5: And today's the first step?
1:15:48
Speaker 1: Man?
1:15:48
Speaker 5: How tomorrow? How keep thinking today's the real draft?
1:15:51
Speaker 1: By the way, for some reason, no, it's the Malar
1:15:52
Speaker 1: Millen mockedra the real draft. In a lot of people's hearts,
1:15:55
Speaker 1: it is.
1:15:55
Speaker 5: The spider tunes into getting the Intel.
1:15:58
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, every day rights now on everything. I say,
1:16:04
Speaker 1: how much of an eye do you keep on the
1:16:06
Speaker 1: U doub prospects are once they leave Washington, it's all
1:16:11
Speaker 1: about Seahawks versus everybody else.
1:16:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of about that, you know.
1:16:15
Speaker 10: I mean, I I don't know, man, I mean, I'm
1:16:18
Speaker 10: more of a wayor here kind of guy, you know.
1:16:20
Speaker 10: And every now and then there's people that kind of
1:16:22
Speaker 10: transcend that you just.
1:16:23
Speaker 5: Really want to root hard for at the next level.
1:16:26
Speaker 10: The bigger impact they have at Washington, I think it's
1:16:29
Speaker 10: natural to you know, kind of be bigger fans of
1:16:32
Speaker 10: them when they play in the NFL. All those dudes
1:16:34
Speaker 10: in twenty three, including Petix and at Dounza and Polk
1:16:38
Speaker 10: and McMillan and Trice and Fatanu and rosen Hosen, all
1:16:42
Speaker 10: those guys that came off that football team, you kind
1:16:45
Speaker 10: of tend to gravitate more towards them because they did
1:16:48
Speaker 10: more for you, right, I mean, they just they just
1:16:50
Speaker 10: gave you more memories, They gave you, they gave you
1:16:52
Speaker 10: a better, you know, experience as a fan because they
1:16:54
Speaker 10: won more football games. But you know, Denzel Boston, local
1:16:58
Speaker 10: guy from Emerald Ridge, probably gonna be the Husky taken.
1:17:01
Speaker 10: I think the Eagles should go after him. I mean,
1:17:03
Speaker 10: that's with Aj Brown probably gone. I know they went
1:17:07
Speaker 10: out and got a bunch of wide receivers in free agency.
1:17:09
Speaker 10: They got Hollywood Brown and Elijah Moore. They traded for
1:17:13
Speaker 10: a Dontavian Wix obviously from Green Bay. But that that
1:17:16
Speaker 10: kind of feels like right in a wheelhouse. I mean,
1:17:18
Speaker 10: if he's available at twenty three, that doesn't feel like
1:17:21
Speaker 10: stretching at all. I would not be surprised if Philadelphia
1:17:24
Speaker 10: made a run because they got a need for a
1:17:26
Speaker 10: wide receiver on a pretty good football team. Imagine Denzel
1:17:29
Speaker 10: Boston going to that team, getting to play with DeVonta
1:17:32
Speaker 10: Smith on a ready made team that's ready to win today.
1:17:35
Speaker 5: That's a great, great spot for him.
1:17:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's where I've got him. More got my
1:17:40
Speaker 1: mock out today.
1:17:41
Speaker 5: I'm locking too.
1:17:42
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:17:42
Speaker 1: I just wrote it mocking. We're all mocking it up.
1:17:45
Speaker 5: I'm gonna mock you.
1:17:48
Speaker 1: What is your Hurricane favorite you know, NFL draft coverage
1:17:55
Speaker 1: memory or Mahler Millon mock draft memory that you have.
1:18:00
Speaker 10: Yes, Yes, there was a guy what was his name,
1:18:03
Speaker 10: Billy Price? Old Billy Price Price went to the Bengals.
1:18:11
Speaker 10: I believe in the Mahlert Millan mock draft out of
1:18:14
Speaker 10: Ohio State, and I remember doing the mock draft with
1:18:17
Speaker 10: Hugh and whoever the GM was that day. Whatever listener
1:18:21
Speaker 10: lucky listener that drafted Billy Price in the mock draft. Uh,
1:18:26
Speaker 10: he got crucified by Hugh Millon on the air, ripped apart,
1:18:30
Speaker 10: torn to shreds, blown away like the death Star. I
1:18:35
Speaker 10: didn't even exist after Hugh was done with him. Guess
1:18:38
Speaker 10: what the Bengals did the very next.
1:18:40
Speaker 1: Day, drafted Billy Price.
1:18:41
Speaker 5: Drafted Billy Price. That's gonna happen every now and then.
1:18:50
Speaker 10: I think Millan, I don't remember exactly, and I'm sure
1:18:53
Speaker 10: I'll get this wrong. I think Millan may have sitt
1:18:56
Speaker 10: on the air like I've never even heard of this guy,
1:18:58
Speaker 10: and then he went out and drafted him in the
1:18:59
Speaker 10: first on the next day. So we have had picks
1:19:03
Speaker 10: that have been made by general managers of the mock
1:19:05
Speaker 10: draft that nobody's ever heard of, like the classic Major
1:19:08
Speaker 10: League line.
1:19:09
Speaker 5: I think this guy's here is dead, cross him off.
1:19:12
Speaker 10: Then, I mean, that does happen where people just they
1:19:15
Speaker 10: got ahold of a draft preview magazine from like four
1:19:18
Speaker 10: years ago.
1:19:19
Speaker 5: We just grafted the wrong one.
1:19:20
Speaker 10: And they're doing research from like the twenty twenty two draft,
1:19:24
Speaker 10: not the twenty sixth drafts. So yeah, that was that
1:19:27
Speaker 10: was a fun one. When the Bengals drafted Billy Price.
1:19:29
Speaker 1: Man, I love that Mike Brown's grandson showed up at
1:19:32
Speaker 1: the Maler Millon mock draft had inside information on what
1:19:35
Speaker 1: the banks were going to do. That's right, and he
1:19:37
Speaker 1: called him an idiot.
1:19:38
Speaker 10: Twenty eighteen first round, twenty first overall and the Maler
1:19:42
Speaker 10: Millon mock Draft we select Billy Price.
1:19:44
Speaker 5: That's just dumb.
1:19:45
Speaker 10: The next day the Bengals take Billy Price. Awesome, so good.
1:19:51
Speaker 10: And what are you doing this afternoon?
1:19:52
Speaker 1: B Uh, Well, I've got to go to your nap
1:19:55
Speaker 1: car shopping first and then nap. But yeah, I mean,
1:20:00
Speaker 1: wing on over. We need to go to the Malar
1:20:01
Speaker 1: Milon mock draft. Yeah, Deno's pub come on over and
1:20:04
Speaker 1: hang out with us.
1:20:05
Speaker 10: Commissioner Fane will be there when he's not talking to
1:20:08
Speaker 10: his wife in Alaska. Uh and because of those phone calls,
1:20:11
Speaker 10: they have two great kids.
1:20:12
Speaker 2: Uh.
1:20:13
Speaker 5: He'll be there today at three o'clock.
1:20:15
Speaker 2: It's been one and fifty years since the first phone.
1:20:17
Speaker 5: That's right.
1:20:17
Speaker 10: And he's also got his first pager that he had
1:20:20
Speaker 10: with the AT and T. He still uses that today.
1:20:21
Speaker 10: By the way, you can see him. He'll be there,
1:20:24
Speaker 10: Miller will be there. I'll be there, Jackson Felts. We're
1:20:27
Speaker 10: letting Jackson out of his cage today and he's going
1:20:29
Speaker 10: to come by Dinos at three o'clock this afternoon to
1:20:31
Speaker 10: run the mock draft.
1:20:32
Speaker 5: He's very excited.
1:20:33
Speaker 1: Wow, I want at least one Alaskan phone sex story
1:20:36
Speaker 1: if I'm showing up.
1:20:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, how do you think he had two great kids?
1:20:41
Speaker 2: I don't think that's how that works.
1:20:43
Speaker 5: That's like an appetizer pre game.
1:20:46
Speaker 1: All right, Well we are such fun, have a blast today.
1:20:51
Speaker 5: And what if I don't. What if it's just miserable
1:20:53
Speaker 5: and I hate it?
1:20:53
Speaker 1: Well, oh I guess no, don't hide it. Just tell us,
1:20:57
Speaker 1: tell us your feelings.
1:21:00
Speaker 10: Hey, I'll have a better day if you and Ashley
1:21:02
Speaker 10: come by Dino's. Okay, I want to see you too.
1:21:05
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be there. It's going to let
1:21:06
Speaker 2: you know.
1:21:07
Speaker 5: Proof that you two actually exist.
1:21:09
Speaker 2: I'd like to make you think I'm going to show up.
1:21:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to be taken with the fourth overall pick.
1:21:15
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll do that for it.
1:21:17
Speaker 1: Yes, I want to go to the Tennessee Titans. Is
1:21:19
Speaker 1: that your dream to play for Robert Salah? Yeah, play
1:21:22
Speaker 1: the sea and play running back for the type.
1:21:24
Speaker 5: You know the Jets to not have an interception last year?
1:21:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that this morning.
1:21:28
Speaker 10: What kind of stuff you find out when you do
1:21:30
Speaker 10: these stupid draft capsules.
1:21:33
Speaker 5: Unbelievable.
1:21:34
Speaker 1: All right, man, well we've we're leaving everything in good
1:21:37
Speaker 1: Hay and so have fun and we will talk to
1:21:39
Speaker 1: you soon. Happy draft, miss Thank you very much, Thank
1:21:42
Speaker 1: you for being in the spirit. David Softy mall joining
1:21:45
Speaker 1: us right here on Chuck and Buck Maler millon Mock
1:21:47
Speaker 1: Draftino's Pub and Renton today starting at three o'clock. The
1:21:52
Speaker 1: whole gang will be there. Coming up next, ABC's of
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1:21:59
Speaker 2: We did get some tech on it, yeah, other it
1:22:01
Speaker 2: had heard of it, right, some looked it up. I believe, Okay,
1:22:05
Speaker 2: it didn't.
1:22:05
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't popular in the Pacific Northwest.
1:22:08
Speaker 2: I don't think it must have been.
1:22:10
Speaker 3: But your I think they agreed that your version was
1:22:13
Speaker 3: probably better.
1:22:14
Speaker 1: Is that right? Than the original.
1:22:16
Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, I was told that's.
1:22:18
Speaker 1: Very kind of you. That's impossible. I don't know it
1:22:22
Speaker 1: as a hit single.
1:22:26
Speaker 2: You're just going to keep my mouth shut. I like
1:22:31
Speaker 2: your version the best.
1:22:32
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, anyway, it is the day before the night
1:22:35
Speaker 1: before draft, miss, so it's been a pretty heavy show.
1:22:38
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's will be a heavy show as well. But we're
1:22:40
Speaker 1: not forgetting about how miserable we are over our baseball team.
1:22:43
Speaker 1: How could I go another segment without talking about that?
1:22:46
Speaker 2: Oh yeay, I was thinking. I was hoping.
1:22:48
Speaker 3: We were just like, because we were in the draft
1:22:50
Speaker 3: miss spirit, we were just thinking of things that made
1:22:52
Speaker 3: us happy.
1:22:53
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, yeah, we got time to be miserable. Yeah,
1:22:56
Speaker 1: who doesn't squeeze it in? Let's do it abcs of
1:23:00
Speaker 1: the ms. The alphabet takes us through a few different
1:23:04
Speaker 1: segment topics Mariner related topics, and we are at the
1:23:08
Speaker 1: letter VV is for versus. Now. Brendan Donovan's not available
1:23:12
Speaker 1: to us right now. I mean he just had that
1:23:15
Speaker 1: goofy landing and then has never really been right since.
1:23:20
Speaker 1: But he's been good. We like Brendan Donovan, right, I mean,
1:23:22
Speaker 1: of all the guys this year, offensively we're playing every day.
1:23:26
Speaker 1: He's probably been the most consistent on our team.
1:23:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's given me the most happy times
1:23:34
Speaker 3: as a Marinags fan.
1:23:35
Speaker 2: Him and Luke Rayley three.
1:23:36
Speaker 1: Four batting average. He's at three home runs nine fifty
1:23:40
Speaker 1: four ops. He's been good. And yes, there was an incident.
1:23:44
Speaker 1: It's not like he's injury prone. There was an incident
1:23:47
Speaker 1: that obviously very awkward, and it created an injury, and
1:23:51
Speaker 1: then he's been trying to play through that and it
1:23:53
Speaker 1: might have created another injury. So Brendan Donovan, through no
1:23:57
Speaker 1: fault of his own, is on the injury list right now.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: But when he's been in the lineup, he's been a
1:24:02
Speaker 1: productive member, maybe the most productive member of this team.
1:24:06
Speaker 1: That said, Brendan Donovan was the offseason acquisition versus Muna
1:24:12
Speaker 1: Taka Morikami, who is turning into the monster that a
1:24:19
Speaker 1: lot of people thought he could be. But everybody was
1:24:21
Speaker 1: so worried about his swing and miss that a lot
1:24:26
Speaker 1: of team, well pretty much every team passed on him.
1:24:29
Speaker 1: I mean, he made sixteen million dollars salary right now,
1:24:32
Speaker 1: and that's huge money. But a lot of people thought, oh,
1:24:35
Speaker 1: the next Japanese phenom he's gonna get thirty thirty five
1:24:39
Speaker 1: million dollars to come over here. He's a proven commodity there.
1:24:43
Speaker 1: But people thought his bat was too slow, didn't have
1:24:46
Speaker 1: a position, and all he could do was hit home runs. Well,
1:24:50
Speaker 1: turns out all you do is hit home runs. It's
1:24:53
Speaker 1: not such a bad thing. It's like Chris Carter. Oh
1:24:55
Speaker 1: he does is score touchdowns.
1:24:57
Speaker 2: Well, that's not bad.
1:24:58
Speaker 1: It's not a bad thing to do all the time.
1:25:00
Speaker 1: He's got nine home runs this year, He's got an
1:25:01
Speaker 1: OPS of nearly a thousand. I don't know why teams
1:25:06
Speaker 1: weren't more interested in him. I don't know why the
1:25:09
Speaker 1: Mariners weren't interested in him. Now, good pivot to Brendan Donovan,
1:25:13
Speaker 1: But you did have to give up a couple of
1:25:14
Speaker 1: good prospects for that guy. Meanwhile, Morikami's you know, has
1:25:19
Speaker 1: hit nine home runs already this season and has a
1:25:21
Speaker 1: thousand ops. Might have been rather interesting, might have been
1:25:25
Speaker 1: able to carry us for a little while. I mean,
1:25:27
Speaker 1: who knows if he would add the same success lighting
1:25:29
Speaker 1: doors and the whatnot in a Seattle uniform. But man,
1:25:32
Speaker 1: I really did like the idea of that, you know,
1:25:36
Speaker 1: row of Raleigh Rodriguez more Acamie would have been Naylor
1:25:43
Speaker 1: Rose Arena, But I guess we'll never know. W is
1:25:47
Speaker 1: for Wilson. Dan Wilson's been coming under a lot of
1:25:51
Speaker 1: heat so far this season, and I think it's deserved. Look,
1:25:57
Speaker 1: I think Dan Wilson by the end of last season
1:26:01
Speaker 1: had kind of ironed things out, but he was also
1:26:05
Speaker 1: managing just to win baseball games. And in the beginning
1:26:09
Speaker 1: of the year, you are managing more than that. You
1:26:13
Speaker 1: are managing you know, health, you are managing workload, you
1:26:18
Speaker 1: are managing what individual pitchers particularly are capable of. And
1:26:24
Speaker 1: so Dan Wilson has had a lot more to manage
1:26:27
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, and frankly, I think
1:26:30
Speaker 1: it's just a little too much for him because this
1:26:31
Speaker 1: is two years in a row that I think he
1:26:33
Speaker 1: struggled with the exact same things, and again another versus
1:26:38
Speaker 1: not to compare and contrast. I thought it was time
1:26:40
Speaker 1: for Scott's service to go, but when. But Scott Servis's
1:26:44
Speaker 1: strength was his managing of the bullpen, and it seems
1:26:48
Speaker 1: to be Dan Wilson's weakness, at least in the first
1:26:52
Speaker 1: half of the season. But it's it feels like it's
1:26:55
Speaker 1: been a problem this year, and I realized that he
1:26:59
Speaker 1: has more information and more data than what we have
1:27:02
Speaker 1: as armchair managers ourselves. But this isn't really about information
1:27:07
Speaker 1: and data. This is about whether it comes from on
1:27:11
Speaker 1: high or whether you're doing it yourself. You are you
1:27:16
Speaker 1: have set a lot of rules for this beginning of
1:27:18
Speaker 1: the year that you are forcing yourself to follow. We
1:27:22
Speaker 1: don't let relief pitchers finish an inning and then start
1:27:25
Speaker 1: another inning. We don't let them get up twice. We
1:27:28
Speaker 1: don't let them pitch on three straight days. Okay, some
1:27:33
Speaker 1: we don't even like for them to pitch on back
1:27:35
Speaker 1: to back days. And so you start implementing all of
1:27:39
Speaker 1: these rules in place, and then you start cheating on
1:27:44
Speaker 1: those rules by Matt Brash is coming in to get
1:27:48
Speaker 1: somebody out of a jam, and yet we only use
1:27:51
Speaker 1: them for three pitches in one out and then his
1:27:54
Speaker 1: day is done. Yeah, and then you so you just
1:27:57
Speaker 1: burned up some really precious out that you need to
1:28:01
Speaker 1: get right now with all these rules that you have
1:28:03
Speaker 1: in place. So he, to me, Dan is really struggling
1:28:07
Speaker 1: with managing because I think he does just fine if
1:28:11
Speaker 1: you just tell him go win the game. But if
1:28:14
Speaker 1: you have to tell him go win the game. But
1:28:17
Speaker 1: it's probably more important that you keep these guys on
1:28:21
Speaker 1: their regiment and their routine, so let's air on the
1:28:24
Speaker 1: side of that. Then he doesn't do well at that.
1:28:28
Speaker 1: I think he's really struggled at that each of the
1:28:30
Speaker 1: last two starts of the season for the Mariners. And
1:28:35
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. I mean, I
1:28:36
Speaker 1: guess this team has been in facing worse situations in
1:28:41
Speaker 1: the last few years. They were in worse situations just
1:28:45
Speaker 1: a year ago, and they survived them. And not only
1:28:48
Speaker 1: did this survive them, they went on to have a
1:28:49
Speaker 1: very successful season under Dan Wilson the manager. So I
1:28:54
Speaker 1: guess I'm just going to trust that it will iron
1:28:56
Speaker 1: out and that you're still in the race, and then
1:28:59
Speaker 1: by the second half, when you don't have to worry
1:29:01
Speaker 1: that Munno's pitched fourteen pitches yesterday he was always most
1:29:04
Speaker 1: to pitch twelve, then then maybe he can he can
1:29:09
Speaker 1: start relaxing and get into mode. But right now it
1:29:13
Speaker 1: just feels like he doesn't do a very good job
1:29:16
Speaker 1: managing all of that stuff.
1:29:18
Speaker 3: No, and it doesn't seem that with the bullpen in
1:29:20
Speaker 3: the way that they are having him manage it that
1:29:22
Speaker 3: there's any room for a gut feeling or something other
1:29:26
Speaker 3: than all the numbers and rules they've set in place.
1:29:29
Speaker 1: Well, and that leads us right into the next letter,
1:29:31
Speaker 1: which is exex's for ex Mariner because Casey Lawrence is
1:29:37
Speaker 1: now or seen me, Casey Legumina is now an ex Mariner,
1:29:41
Speaker 1: and I don't. I didn't like Casey Legumine. I didn't
1:29:45
Speaker 1: like him last year. Bucky and I had a couple
1:29:48
Speaker 1: of uncomfortable conversations about Legumina and Trent Thornton, and I
1:29:54
Speaker 1: think this team really does favor these sweeper pitchers who
1:29:58
Speaker 1: don't have anything else. So if they don't have their sweeper,
1:30:01
Speaker 1: they don't really have anything else to go to. They
1:30:03
Speaker 1: just get hammered. And so I don't I'd never really
1:30:07
Speaker 1: liked him, but every team has to have a couple
1:30:10
Speaker 1: of guys that can wear it. You know. I'm not
1:30:14
Speaker 1: saying Casey Legumina should have been off the roster, even
1:30:18
Speaker 1: though I don't even like him. I think the bigger
1:30:20
Speaker 1: problem was was the way that you used him twenty
1:30:23
Speaker 1: five games into the season. He was just in way
1:30:26
Speaker 1: too many high leverage situations and he's not good enough
1:30:29
Speaker 1: for that. So I didn't, you know. I went off
1:30:32
Speaker 1: on legamina yesterday, but more so on the way that
1:30:35
Speaker 1: he's being used than the actual pitcher. I think he
1:30:38
Speaker 1: could be a major league pitcher. I didn't think that
1:30:42
Speaker 1: the answer was get rid of him. I thought the
1:30:45
Speaker 1: answer should have been clear. We got to stop using
1:30:48
Speaker 1: him in high leverage situations, and we got to do
1:30:51
Speaker 1: a better job of managing what outs we get out
1:30:54
Speaker 1: of our bullpen so that we aren't in a tie
1:30:57
Speaker 1: game in the eighth inning and we've got to go
1:30:59
Speaker 1: to our worst relief.
1:31:00
Speaker 3: Right, you know, that would be the smart way to
1:31:02
Speaker 3: do it, right, I would think, but it doesn't seem
1:31:04
Speaker 3: to be the way they like to do it, and
1:31:06
Speaker 3: that makes me worried.
1:31:07
Speaker 1: Well, that goes back to Dan mismanaging the bullpen and outs,
1:31:12
Speaker 1: Like if you're going to work, if you've got to
1:31:14
Speaker 1: get so many outs during the course of a game,
1:31:18
Speaker 1: and then you're going to take out a starting pitcher
1:31:21
Speaker 1: after eighty five pitches, and then you're going to go
1:31:25
Speaker 1: to another pitcher that gets you out of the inning,
1:31:29
Speaker 1: and then he only throws four but now he's been
1:31:31
Speaker 1: made unavailable for the next day. Then for then you've
1:31:37
Speaker 1: got to be more precious about getting your outs because
1:31:40
Speaker 1: they're not overused. They're not overtaxed. I mean, the statistics
1:31:45
Speaker 1: tell you they have the three and the last time
1:31:47
Speaker 1: I checked it might have changed. They're third in baseball
1:31:50
Speaker 1: and the fewest relief pitcher innings in the entire sport.
1:31:53
Speaker 1: So they're not being overused. They're being misused, and and
1:31:57
Speaker 1: they're being taken out or put put in late or
1:32:01
Speaker 1: taken out early, however you want to look at it.
1:32:04
Speaker 1: But you have put yourself in the position to have
1:32:08
Speaker 1: to go to Wilcox and Legumina in high leverage situations,
1:32:12
Speaker 1: which they should have never. I mean, we've got five
1:32:15
Speaker 1: good quality relievers. Not a lot of teams have that.
1:32:20
Speaker 1: And I saw four guys in Tacoma Friday night. I
1:32:24
Speaker 1: don't know if I mentioned this on the air yesterday
1:32:26
Speaker 1: or off the air with Anders yesterday. I did the
1:32:28
Speaker 1: game on Friday in Tacoma. I saw four relievers that
1:32:31
Speaker 1: were they're better, have better stuff than Legumina and Wilcox. Yeah,
1:32:35
Speaker 1: and and yet you know, so there there's some others
1:32:40
Speaker 1: on the way, and maybe Alex Hoppy is going to
1:32:42
Speaker 1: be one of them. But I didn't think that the
1:32:44
Speaker 1: punishment for legumina should be your off the team. I
1:32:48
Speaker 1: thought the punishment should be in Dan, manage your bullpen
1:32:53
Speaker 1: better so that we don't end up having to use
1:32:56
Speaker 1: legumina against the heart of the order in a tie game.
1:32:59
Speaker 3: In And it feels like that should have been done
1:33:03
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, Like it just kept being
1:33:05
Speaker 3: the same issue. It seemed like, which that's what I couldn't.
1:33:07
Speaker 3: I mean, you do it once, okay, then have the conversation,
1:33:09
Speaker 3: and then take an occasional yeah. But to have it
1:33:12
Speaker 3: repeatedly happen, it doesn't make sense.
1:33:14
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