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Ep61 B NFL Talk But More College Football · Sports Allegedly

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  And coming to you live from Kenny's basement apartment for the second time this week
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  because we got a little college football in the first episode. It's Sports Allegedly.
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  Welcome, Welcome, welcome everyone. Thank you for for this. I
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  did it last week too, for this episode. Yes, I did for
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  this episode of Sports Allegedly on this day. It is what the twenty ninth
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  of November. Thanks for joining us again. We'll make this a lot more
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  uh more quality, yes, and less timely since we went we rambled and
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  rambled on last week about college football, which we had a lot. We
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  do have a we do have a listener that said to tell Kristen to shut
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  the f up about his g D Texas love Alabama. Yeah, yeah,
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  whatever about Texas and Alabama. Obviously an organ you know. But thanks for
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  joining us again. Today we're going to briefly talk a little bit about college
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  We're going to start with what we'll talk a little bit about transfer portal,
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  just quarterbacks today that we've seen that's announced or going to announce, or at
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  least believed to be announced. Uh. Then we'll also talk the ones committed.
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  We'll talk about possible bowl destinations. We'll talk about the college football playoff
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  poll that just came out yesterday. But we want to start, obviously with
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  the big news locally here is Oklahoma and Brent Vinnibles have decided to name Seth
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  Platrail and UH Finley as the co offensive coordinators. Obviously, Seth the longtime
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  O you are original, O you guy with the national championship team, then
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  moved around to UH. He was at I mean we talked about stops that
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  it was Arizona, North Carolina. Uh. He went before that was with
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  Kevin Wilson in Indiana. I think it was. It was Kansas. It
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  was Kansas and then then Arizona, No Tech, Kansas Tech. No,
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  it was Tech head No Kansas and then went to Kansas Tech, Arizona,
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  Indiana, North Carolina, North Texas head coach back to OU so uh and
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  then of course Finley, who we're familiar with, he's our current tight ends
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  coach. So Vinables felt more comfortable obviously. Reports said that he did interview
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  some outside candidates for this job, but always felt like the camaraderie between the
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  team and what they were doing these past years and would continue on. And
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  you know, like I said, I had mentioned before in the podcast I
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  like Brennan mary And as the outside candidate to hire, but if you're going
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  to hire insight, I thought this was the best choice overall to keep the
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  continuity. And if you remember, seth La, Trail and beaten Ball worked
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  together in Arizona during that time too, so they have some they've worked well
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  together before. Let's see what they're going to do. We're not looking we're
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  not looking at a a weird well. And I think the and a weird
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  like just pushing everybody together. I think that the obviously recruiting helps or it
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  helps recruit if you stay with the same coaches. We've seen maybe one Portal
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  guy who was a three star wide receiver decide to leave, but I haven't.
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  I don't remember who that was. I cannot watch that. That is
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  bad. But thoughts on that, and and and and one last opinion before
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  I leave it on that is I'm gonna be interested to see how Latreil and
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  and Finley uh put the tight end back into the packages that we liked.
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  I mean, you know, you remember with Gresham, Mark Andrews. I
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  mean we had some tight ends that have been NFL guys. Is he is
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  he? I don't even know if he can. I think he's I think
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  he's done. I think he's officially done because he spent a year over.
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  But no, I think the offense is going to predicate more on the tight
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  end, and I think the running game is gonna be more balanced. Not
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  that we're gonna it's still gonna be air raid. I mean it is still
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  gonna be air raid. For that. Can you take care of that.
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  I'll get that done. So if you hear a if you're allowed wooshing noise,
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  that would be uh forgot to turn off the heater. We're in the
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  we're heads about. We're in the boiler room. So well, you know
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  in Kenny's basement apartment, it's where his it's where his wife stores all the
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  all their knickknacks and extra boards. And we've got to get We've got to
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  get Junior. We got to get the favorite song second producer to do that
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  turn and we try to get him to join us tonight. Talk a little
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  football. But all right, so thoughts preston on the oh you hire feel
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  comfortable, It feel good? What you're thinking, you're good off that,
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  that's you just stump up. Yeah, so you're kind of the boring.
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  You're kind of the boring approach on that. You thought we could do something
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  a little better. But but I mean, I'm okay with it. But
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  I mean maybe better, but you can also do worse, so for sure,
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  so I'm okay with it. We have to see what happens. Yeah,
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  if you like stats like I do. Statistically, every time and everywhere
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  that Latrell went when he was the O C and play caller, they improved
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  on offense, whether it was Indiana, it was Indiana, North Carolina,
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  and Arizona and not in that order. And then obviously North Texas and North
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  Texas had some of their best years with him as head coach. And if
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  you remember locally, Mason Fine was his quarterback for many years. And probably
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  I don't know, I was sure he's got a lot of records at North
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  Texas. I don't know about the conference, but and they haven't been to
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  my knowledge as good since he left. It was kind of one of those
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  deals, Hey, we want to get better, we're gonna fire you thinking
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  we're gonna go the opposite one way, and they've they've probably they've actually they've
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  actually went down and went the opposite way at North Texas. So you know,
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  it's not always good to fire. It's not always good to fire.
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  The one thing I'm saying to say is it's good that we are hiring Oklahoma
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  guys. They you know, they tend to stay in Oklahoma. They don't
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  tend they don't tend to you know, run off unless they're fired. And
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  you know, Josh Hipel was the only one I think was told, you
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  know, hey, you're you're gonna be you're gonna be bed for better things.
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  Go do something, Go do something, and he went and you see,
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  and then Tennessee, well yes, but I mean Tennessee, he kind
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  of made a mark in Tennessee. I'm sorry. Last year at Tennessee he
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  was well, he lost his dynamic quarterback into the draft and that really hurt
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  him. And that guy's been injured the whole season. But he looks like
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  he's getting ready to come back, actually going to be out of come unfortunately.
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  What is it what was the wide receiver white? Yeah, well he
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  also had he also had the offensive lineman went to the Bears. Yeah,
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  yeah, that's he's had a saying. You know, he lost, he
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  looked good, but he worked Tennessee. He having a bit with with with
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  Milton and and Milton's but he worked his way. I mean, if you
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  remember he went to Utah State as o C. Then he went and then
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  he got the head coaching job. Yeah, needed to move on. Yeah,
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  I would say that that, I would say I would say that was
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  probably one of the only ones in stupid and then everyone else we talked about
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  last week went to be head coach. You know, hey, nobody should
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  ship on it right now because we need to let him see what happens.
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  And you know, year one with Levy was a struggle. Year two for
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  the most part, Gabriel, since we're talking about all this, what do
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  you think our record is going to be next year? I just want to
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  get your opinion, your opinion, and I'll give you mine. I've got
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  mine, I'll write mine down right now. I've forgot our schedule. Schedule.
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  It's a tough I know, it's really tough. And you know,
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  we talked a little bit really tough. Christin, would you pull up Georgia's
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  next year's schedule. You know, we give a lot of shit to Georgia
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  this year about having a soft schedule. As we segue into sec we have
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  obviously a tough schedule next year, much tougher schedule next year, and then
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  you've but we I joke about Georgia and I looked at their schedule and I'm
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  like, mom, Mia, that is tough. So okay, not in
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  any order. We did have We did have two games announced right Tennessee and
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  the games at least until November twenty third. We know, no, no,
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  no, they just announced two other SEC games. They announced this is
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  September twenty first and November twenty third. That was September twenty first, is
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  going to be Tennessee. That's gonna be at home, and then we're going
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  to go the Crimson Tide visit US November twenty third. That's the second to
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  last. I know, but it's not until the twenty third. It's just
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  that twenty third game was announced. The restaurant, so Temple L's. That's
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  a win, Houston Cougar's. That's two wins. We don't even know Houston's
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  bringing in as a as a coach yet looks to be like Fritz or Kingsbury
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  looks to be the two options right now. It might be a good job
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  for him to take to get back into college. If that's what he's like
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  is gonna be a fun game to watch because they are a really good team.
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  I don't know what they're losing in the draft, but I'm going to
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  take that as a win. Well, the quarterback has been rumored and we'll
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  look later, has been rumored to be entering the portal, which makes me
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  think, is he does he know something that we don't? You know?
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  Is he gonna Is he going to the portal because someone else is coming?
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  Go back to schedule, Go back to that schedule. We'll get to that.
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  Sorry, he got the schedule. You want the first games that are
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  like non conferenceation, Yeah, Temple, Houston and Tulane right there. Oh,
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  no, Georgia. We'll talk about that in a minute. How tough
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  that is. But you wanted to know our record, Sean, I agree,
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  first three or wins. I'd give Tennessee the first. Well, the
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  first three that I have up here are gonna be wins. I'll take a
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  win with the volunteers because it is home. Yes, the Crimson Todd that
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  is a fifty to fifty game. I'll take a win on that. I'll
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  take a win. I'm gonna take a fifty to fifty shot on them.
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  We got them at home, right, yep. I'll take a win.
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  Then we go uh in Cotton Bowl of Texas. I'll give Texas that.
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  When we got one loss. Okay, Auburn Tigers, that's we're at Auburn.
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  Well, that's that's that's that weird Hugh Freeze team. He either plays
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  really well or they don't play at Auburn. That's a close game. He
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  could be fifty to fifty. So I got one loss with I want to
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  say we're gonna win the LSU game, but I doubt that we will.
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  And in the fifty to fifty game again with Missouri, a quarterback looks like
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  he's leaving and the running back to we beat Missouri South Cakilaki definitely win win
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  Ole Miss win. They do not have a defense. Ole Miss Ole miss
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  just doesn't have a defense. And and you can steyn me their offense real
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  easy main Black Bears. I'm gonna say that's that's that's that's a weird.
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  That'll be one of those weird SEC games. And then you know, towards
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  the tail end of the yeah, yeah, so what do you got?
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  I see two to three, nine and three, I'm eight four eight and
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  well, that's what'shigher than what you were last sea. Okay, so at
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  the beginning of this season, I got nine. You know, the over
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  under I bet will come out about eight and a half. Okay, probably
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  anything over nine, I would probably take the under. It was nine and
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  a half, I would, but you know, you're you're talking about a
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  lot of changes still that to to look at. I just wanted to see
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  what y'all's opinion was because I've looked at what people said. I've seen a
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  lot of what I joke. I just I joked about seven and five.
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  But I think we can at least do eight. It could be better.
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  I'm saying eight eight at the moment. So put what give us a real
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  quick on Georgia. We look at Texas next year. Georgia, do you
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  want the preseed? I mean you want the early games? Yeah, because
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  I think they've got a tough one. I think they played Michigan. You
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  let me see, yeah, pull up the Texas schedule. Okay, Oh,
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  look as he's looking at Georgia, Texas, Texas. You just took
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  the Michigan Michigan. Sorry, I was gonna say Texas Texas has Texas has
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  miss at Michigan, and then they have three softies essentially at the beginning,
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  you t s A is A is a decent not a soft, but a
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  but a decent for their money. You got Georgia, Razorbacks, Aggie's sooner
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  A and m Sooners. Yeah, they're just throwing them right back into that.
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  Uh they were, they were. They're just throwing them right back into
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  the Southwest Conference. Florida and Kentucky looked like easy, not easy. They're
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  gonna Sean, can you pull that up? My computer is locked. It's
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  which one was it? Georgia technical difficulties on the Yeah, nothing's working.
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  Then they're gonna have Mississippi State against Jeff Levy, which Levy knows that team,
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  and then they have a game against Vandy. I'm looking I'm looking at
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  them having probably the same record as Yeah, I thought so to niner ten
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  wins, control of the lete, Yeah, there you go, all right,
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  But I thought they had some easier wins. I mean, you got
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  Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oka, Colorado State, the Warhawks, the
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  u L Warhawks, definite easy win that that is their cupcake. It's like
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  the Hogs are going to be better. Well, you know they hired Patrino.
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  I love I love that that meme and Vandy and they get Vandy,
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  they get to be Vandi. There's there's at least three other wins so well.
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  So, uh, we don't know about this Mississippi State Bulldog team.
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  If they're gonna give me a run for they could give him a run for
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  Money's Levy stop, I'm just saying they could give them a run for the
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  money. What are we are we putting them in there the West already?
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  Well, here's here's here's the thing. So you've got a Arkansas Razorbacks,
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  you've got a brand new O C or whatever the West is, uh,
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  Texas A and m Aggie's you gotta head coach, and for the Mississippi State
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  Bulldogs, brand new head coach. And then you've got Stoops going back to
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  Kentucky and trying to say, hey, guys, I'm sorry, thank you.
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  You know he's gonna he's gonna retalk his team into believe it in him
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  too much. Texas talk, right, It's move on. But that's that's
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  that's what they've got. Michigan is gonna be Georgia. I see three losses
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  at least hey, I can. I will say this. I would say
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  Texas is probably going to be closer to the Final four this year than they
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  will be next year. We do we agree on that they could be.
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  Yeah, they got them quite possible. Well, they get in the final
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  twelve. That's the key. We moved to twelve. Yes, yes,
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  all right. So here's Georgia's We have Tennessee Tech easy Clemson. Man,
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  that is that's is that their first game of the season. It looks like,
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  Yeah, Georgia Georgia versus Clemson, that is a win right there.
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  Uh, they actually had to play the Tide this season, so that's a
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  that's a fifty fifth. That's at Alabama at Tech Longhorns. We need to
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  see what Sark versus Kirby Florida Gators. I don't even I don't know about
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  that team they have to play in Playing in the swamp is harder than not
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  playing in the swamp. Uh, UMass easy win, Georgia Tech again,
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  Auburn, Hugh Freeze, what team shows up? And then you go into
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  old Miss Kentucky. These are all wins right here. Well. My The
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  interesting thing though, is I thought their their road schedule was one of the
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  tough at Kentucky, at all miss Alabama, at Texas and at Alabama.
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  It's not that far. It's it's not well, am I talking about traveling.
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  I mean, nobody gives a ship how far? It is not talking
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  about long and mind you talking about about I think when USC has to travel
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  all the way to Maryland that that's not going to tax him. No,
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  I think it's just what I'm talking about is is the road games? You
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  just talking about the fans? Yeah, the stadium No, I mean it's
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  it's tough stadiums to play at Alabama Kansas Stadium. No one said that I
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  was lost, you that we lost. It's an away game. It was
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  a long journey anyway. Uh, talking about that real quick. We'll talk
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  a little bit about the Final four poll before we move on the NFL.
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  The build uppers. When when? When fifty to fifty? Oh, I
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  say that game Georgia at Tennessee at L. L. Shue Mercer. Okay,
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  Auburn Missouri sound wins here. I didn't think their schedule was that bad.
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  I looked at it too, So do you have already committed? Yeah,
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  that's fine. I just wanted to talk about how much different the games
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  are gonna be. And then our offense as we move on, and I
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  think hiring Latrail going back to that a little bit, as you're gonna see
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  more of a pound run. You're still gonna have an air raid approach,
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  you know. It's not like the wide receivers and the quarterbacks aren't coming to
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  you because he's he's Preston can keep a wide receiver in the backfield. He's
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  happy. It's but they but they're gonna have. But they're gonna have.
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  But they're still gonna have the wide receivers and the quarterbacks going to come to
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  you. But I think they're gonna focus a little bit more on the run
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  and the tidy end. So all right, moving on. The playoff poll
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  came out last night. Was there much surprised to anybody about anything? No,
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  I mean we looked at we looked at the ap top twenty five,
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  and we looked at it earlier and everything was exactly the same. It's like
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  they took exactly the same and you get down to thirteen fourteen. I think
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  they switched a few teams. Was Louisville, Yeah, in the l s
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  U and then Arizona and Iowa. So it was. It's one of those
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  deals that I didn't think. I didn't think that what I'm trying to show
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  you that they can see it too, Okay, So I don't think that
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  anything really was much different. Now, surprise. We've talked last a couple
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  of days ago a little bit about why Texas and Alabama was still below.
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  Now. The thing that concerned me and I talked to one of my Texas
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  bystanders Oregon, and the losses were both by having Texas below Oregon still concerns
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  me from Texas to get in two fourteen top five, top two to fourteen.
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  So that's that's why they didn't drop below Texas in Alabama. Well,
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  no, I just lost. I was Oregon had lost two. I forget
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  what they were said at it doesn't matter. I mean, they're in love
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  with Oregon, they're love with Knicks because they think Nick is going to win
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  the Heisman. And but on paper, Texas is better than Oregon. I'm
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  not gonna get in this conversation Texas paper on paper. But my concern,
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  I'm the only one that I know you don't, But my concern is they
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  still have Texas below Organ and I don't know if they're ever going to get
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  ahead of them if they already feel about them this way now, and that
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  that that has been a concern. Even though Oregon Texas still not in.
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  No, if they lose Washington, Oregon still Oregon goes in. Oregon wins,
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  they're in. There's no two Oregons regular season wins losses. They ranked
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  them number eight, they ranked Texas number six, So there's not a whole
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  lot of difference there. Oregon's one major loss, their only loss Washington was
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  higher than Texas has lost to Oklahoma. That's the thing that separates the regular
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  season. Texas is a little higher. But their one loss is Oregon lost
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  Washington. Who is their Texas lost to Oklahoma. Who's their big win?
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  Who's Orgon? Who's Organs win? That just stands out and everyone goes,
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  holy ship. Well, Oregon has three ranked teams. They have Utah.
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  I want the win. I want Utah, Utah ranked. Orgon can't see
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  Utah. I can't even see it. I'm just telling them, I'm just
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  saying what they've said, what they're showing there. They have three big win
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  like Texas, No, but they have threeank ranked wins. Texas ranked,
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  they have three ranked wins women. I'll take that Texas has two. Yeah,
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  Texas doesn't have the amount, but I think Alabama is better. Is
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  better. But when they won that, Kansas Kansas out of the top twenty
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  five. Yeah, I'm not even getting into no, because they count what
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  they were when I know, but that's what I'm saying. And that's what
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  kind of screwed us and Kansas still been in we would have played a Hunter.
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  Well, No, I don't even think that. I think it is
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  is. I think they have this love affair with how they're playing right now.
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  You look at the spread and the championship game they have. They have
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  a nine and a half, a nine ish point favorite over Washington, who
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  is ranked number three right now currently has already beat them because Washington has been
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  playing very terrible defense since that Oregon game. Okay, and then so you
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  got O you who had I'm sorry, you got Texas who's playing OSU.
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  And that's that spread is FOURT fourteen and it's could have dropped. I didn't
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  look. You said you looked win yesterday yesterday night when I sent it up,
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  it could changed changed a little bit. Yes yesterday night was Brent Hunt
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  and uh, so says Brent Hunt. Oh the thing is is that can
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  You're still looking at that and it's still they're just not I don't think they're
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  gonna get it. And the more and more I have taught myself, and
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  I know I'm right about Texas. I know it. They they deserve to
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  be in overallbody and I'm not a Texas sympathizer kiddy always. So anyway,
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  there we have it. Uh, we've already made our predictions. Yeah,
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  I've taken my original four because my original four are still right there. Now
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  or now win. If my original four win, if everybody goes chalk,
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  then does Oregon get in? I'm sorry, does does does Texas get in
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  over Florida State? That's going to be the talk because there is people out
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  there. They still believe that Ohio State has a chance to get in over
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  Texas because of how I think I think can get in. I'm just telling
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  you. I'm just telling Ohio State has a better shot at getting in than
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  Texas. And I think that's stupid. I don't agree with that. I'm
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  just telling you I think Ohio State has a better chance than Florida State,
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  or take fifteen. I'm still it's moving, so it's moved up. So
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  I'm telling you that I haven't. I have not you go to that h
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  refreshed. Well, I'm gonna go down to uttle anyway. I think it's
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  gonna be Georgia, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio. You you rans fat old
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  man, your old man already nfl up. So yeah, right now,
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  Well there's different sites. So Vegas inside are currently fourteen and a half and
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  what they started they started and a half. No, no, no,
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  no, that's not the story. Yeah, the gray Vegas is the story.
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  Okay, that's what it is. Yes, black Vegas is what we
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  do Vegas fourteen and a half on that one. But yes, some have
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  it fifteen, some have it fifteen and a half. Uh, different sports
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  books have it. So we're ready, Oklahoma, when you're ready to gamble,
• 25:03
  let's do this, Kenny. You shouldn't gamble on sports for sure.
• 25:10
  Am I beating you on picks? Currently? Just yes? Or knows an
• 25:11
  answer? All you need to say, no, thank you? So anyway,
• 25:15
  moving on, he's lying. Am I beating you in take home?
• 25:22
  Yes? Any anything else to talk about? As far as we talked about
• 25:25
  the plant pull, a lot of good games this week. Nothing's changed about
• 25:27
  our opinion. Will be ready to move on to the NFL let's quarterback.
• 25:32
  Yeah, we gotta do. The rest is it's very interesting you can't keep
• 25:36
  track of this year. That I did not notice on this was that Will
• 25:41
  Rogers he entered the portal? Correct? Did I miss that? He wasn't.
• 25:45
  We talked about it Monday, So he wasn't on this list of ranking
• 25:51
  the quarterbacks in the transfer portal. So okay, So the number one is
• 25:56
  Riley Leonard. What do you mean leaving when you want to rank Will Rogers?
• 26:00
  What top? But I'm saying, I mean, nobody's going to be
• 26:02
  paying him money, a lot of money. I mean, there's trust me,
• 26:04
  there's guys on here, these guys, Riley Leonard. We're gonna guess
• 26:11
  that he's gonna go to a and m I'm hearing Notre Dame or okay,
• 26:17
  Notre Dame so either either either. But the River has it that he's had
• 26:21
  seven or eight teams. Oh no, that's the Washington State kid has had
• 26:25
  a lot of offers for up to me. So we have the embattled Will
• 26:27
  Howard. Uh, you know he lost his job three times. Yeah,
• 26:33
  he's gonna have to go to a team that has a I mean, he's
• 26:40
  gonna have to go to one of those running type. You know, Gracey
• 26:45
  McCall from Coastal Carolina. He's a senior right now. Tyler Show from Texas
• 26:51
  Tech. I mean, none of these really are doing anything for me.
• 26:55
  Might as well hold on. Brent Hunt says, might as well. Bill
• 26:59
  Bill the check coach of the year over Gundy. Also the local boy from
• 27:03
  Lincoln Christians starting at quarterback. He's Max Brown is transferring from Florida. Actually
• 27:08
  he's on the list. Okay, yeah, Greg Max Brown's training. Yeah,
• 27:14
  Tyler Tyler Show Show Show, you know he's coming out of Texas Tech,
• 27:19
  Max Bloomer Bosmer. His name is Max Brown, New Hampshire Brosemer.
• 27:30
  Yeah, anyway, Hampshire Bosmer or Brosmur. This is top quarterback transfers.
• 27:36
  Did Does anybody seen anything on New Hampshire's offense? What any of course?
• 27:41
  Tyler Tyler van d He's through nineteen hundred yards, twelve touchdown swellsing receptions.
• 27:45
  I mean, who's ranking this a blind guy? No, no, no,
• 27:51
  it's the playoff committee that's putting Oregon of up Texas' king He's already got
• 27:55
  offers from Minnesota, Western, Misig, Western, Kentucky and Buffalo teams that
• 27:57
  nobody cares about. That. Yeah, move on down to there's Bill Rogers.
• 28:02
  He does pomp in. He's a senior senior transfer. Now that doesn't
• 28:07
  mean that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to stay. Uh that that he's gonna
• 28:12
  leave. Man, that just means he's into the Portold. Yeah, they
• 28:15
  might talk him into coming back. Indiana's quarterback. He's entered the red shirt
• 28:19
  freshman h he only played. He played ten games. I think people that
• 28:25
  are listening to us want to know, is there anybody interesting or Johnson.
• 28:29
  Johnson's one of the most non da Johnson's one of the most interesting because Cam
• 28:33
  Rising is coming back. I mean so his mother, his mother did a
• 28:38
  whole, uh highlight reel for him. I don't care about the highlight,
• 28:44
  but his mom did a whole and I think he lost three or four games
• 28:48
  he did. Don't give it's a good story. Let's let someone do that
• 28:51
  on game day or something. Caitlyn Houser, that's nice. It's Mitch Griffin
• 29:00
  is and of course Max Max Johnson out of North cackle like he's going to
• 29:06
  UH North Carolina, going to Texas, A and M. So now he's
• 29:11
  leaving A and M to go to Carolina. Yes, I can't read.
• 29:15
  Also, Brad Johnson's son a super Bowl winning quarterback for the Tampa Bay Buccaneer
• 29:21
  Bread oh three, keep holding on to the So that's that's that's the guys
• 29:33
  that we haven't anything else as we wrap up college because we've spent more time
• 29:36
  than I thought we would. We're addicted to college. But we we are,
• 29:38
  we are we're college football or so. Moving on, let's talk a
• 29:45
  little bit of NFL last last week's games. I thought last week's NFL slate
• 29:52
  was pretty much one of the boring. Yeah, I mean you had that,
• 29:55
  You had the Thursday games, which looked to be exciting but was not.
• 30:00
  There was nothing exciting about any of those games. There was nothing close.
• 30:06
  No, no, there was nothing close that Packers game. The Lions
• 30:08
  got close within that it was clo It wasn't close that game. Yeah,
• 30:15
  I picked, I picked the lines. That's why I'm not a game up.
• 30:17
  That's why I'm not sole first place in the picks. Because the Lions
• 30:19
  stream with your wife and then they put noodle pick and then they put they
• 30:25
  do make you and your wife make noodle picks. To know that we haven't
• 30:29
  had the same You are tired as well. I know, okay, how
• 30:32
  I'm falling from first all the way down to wow, no, third to
• 30:38
  last. I'm above Zach and he didn't turn in a whole week. So
• 30:41
  you really can't. You can't, I can, I can't. I have
• 30:45
  to. You know the problem with the Lions, And I'll tell you the
• 30:47
  problem with the Lions as Golf had a horrible game, get enough run.
• 30:56
  That was my second thought, what's the deal with Golf? Because one week
• 31:00
  he looks like a superstar and the next week he looks like ship. Well,
• 31:03
  there's no bounce to that offensive time. And Ben Johnson, I mean
• 31:06
  he's an up and coming guy. I mean he's already been talking about about
• 31:08
  getting They're looking at him at Carolina rumored already because you know he's an offensive
• 31:12
  guru, is what they want and so but Goff made some mistakes in that
• 31:18
  game. But I really think though that the turner, the turnovers led to
• 31:22
  points and then they just they was not getting into that rhythm that they usually
• 31:26
  do. Saint Brown needs another wide receiver. To compliment him. Obviously,
• 31:30
  the tight end is good. Uh that Hawkinson there, that I mean,
• 31:34
  he's no, it's not Howkinson is. He's a good young rookie. Uh
• 31:40
  t is he rookie? Right? Is a rookie? Tight end's rook And
• 31:42
  so in there eight and three and no one's bitching. I'm just saying,
• 31:45
  if you're gonna win the big games, it's almost they remind me a lot
• 31:48
  of Dallas. They're they're in the same mold, except their defense isn't as
• 31:53
  good. Dallas has a better defense, not disagreeing with but they win.
• 31:59
  The quarterback will lose that for them every time coaching to I mean, I
• 32:06
  really do. I think you look at David you know, if you look
• 32:09
  at David Montgomery versus Jamiir Gibbs, I know Jamier gibbson my fantasy summit,
• 32:14
  Smidge Bison, the guy is so much better. And MC killed somebody that
• 32:21
  was my wife's got Montgomery, I think, yeah, I mean, and
• 32:23
  what they do is they let Gibbs run all over the place and they put
• 32:25
  Mtgomery at So let's go ahead, Steelers Bengals. It was a six point
• 32:30
  win for the Steelers first, yes, and the offense somehow takes off over
• 32:37
  four hundred yards and they played the Bengals, who have a quarterback no one
• 32:39
  even heard of. They're five and six and they play and they scored ten
• 32:44
  points. Which the defense is good. I'm not problem. Okay, ahead,
• 32:49
  sorry, you're good. Is because Burrows has been injured all season off
• 32:58
  and I mean little injuries. He's he's not been there. He can't play.
• 33:01
  He's been injured before he made the Super Bowl. He's been injured since
• 33:06
  the Super Bowl. Not disagreeing with that, that is the problem. I
• 33:08
  think he is a great quarter I think he would be good if he could
• 33:13
  keep from getting hurt be injured. Not to agree with that, I mean,
• 33:16
  I mean you've got you've got, and you've got a team around them
• 33:21
  that excels, I mean specially on offense, and the defense continues to improve
• 33:24
  with a bunch of no names, I mean they really do. Coordinators.
• 33:28
  Yeah, they look better. He's an older guys. Smart. They played
• 33:31
  good. Smart. Yeah. Cincinnati, Cincinnati, the Steelers are a fraud.
• 33:37
  They are seven and four. Can you pull up their schedule? Sean,
• 33:40
  what they got left? I want to look a little bit about the
• 33:44
  Steelers because I've got fans. I know, I hear it on the radio
• 33:47
  seven and four. I don't want to talk about this schedule because this is
• 33:52
  going back to college. But OSU had the best schedule out of every college
• 33:57
  team this year. They played all the newcomers come in the Big Twelve,
• 34:00
  and they played every team except two that had a losing record in the Big
• 34:05
  Twelve. They was they had an easy path and road to get there.
• 34:09
  Set up. That's there it is. So you look at the Steelers remaining
• 34:12
  schedule. They've got the Cardinals, Patriots, and Colts and everyone's like,
• 34:15
  well, that's seven, eight, nine, ten wins, and then you've
• 34:17
  got the Bes and that could be eleven. And then you've got the Seahawks.
• 34:22
  So we don't and then say they the Ravens. They potentially win ten
• 34:27
  or eleven games with Kenny Pickett as a starting quarterback, they're gonna go win
• 34:30
  probably they're probably gonna go in as the division. That'd be the division champs
• 34:37
  with that record, and they could be. And so they then they turn
• 34:40
  around and they look and they say, well, who are you going to
• 34:44
  play in the playoffs after that? Whoever they play market down in the playoffs,
• 34:49
  lose. They lose, lose, they lose, they lose, they
• 34:52
  lose because I thought the schedule they lose. And I looked at that,
• 34:57
  I thought, you gotta be kidding me. This is going to be the
• 35:00
  talk Mike Tomlin Coach of the Year back Canada. The biggest scab in the
• 35:02
  in the world for offense cans taking. Can you pick it. Everyone's gonna
• 35:07
  be like, I gotta sign that son of a bitch to a big contract.
• 35:13
  Baby, not good. That did Jones money four years, one sixty.
• 35:20
  But you know you bitch about that, And I said, that wasn't
• 35:22
  a bad contract. Only two years are guaranteed. No. I watched his
• 35:24
  Chiefs Raiders game. It was great until the second half started, which game,
• 35:30
  Sorry, Chiefs Raiders. It was a great game until the second half
• 35:34
  started. Well, a lot of Chiefs fans around here. It's it's funny
• 35:37
  that you'd say about the Chiefs is they have been very awful. Year is
• 35:44
  fifty. I don't know they're timing everything looks. I mean everything is homes
• 35:50
  my home name Mahomes receiver. He doesn't have a goddamn receiver. That the
• 35:57
  receiver it was, but he's not I mean that's he's true loving. So
• 36:01
  so I'm just saying, you know, me and Taylor we true loved at
• 36:06
  one point, and I'm sorry we had to break up. Yeah, but
• 36:08
  he's got a big, ridiculous a playoffs run with Rogers Back. Yeah,
• 36:15
  it was that'll be coming next week. It was the the whole night Different
• 36:19
  Taylor, Taylor, Taylor John, the whole album was written. It's Fuddy
• 36:29
  alright. No, I think I think they're a little movie. I think
• 36:30
  they're a little bit different, says the Jets make a playoff Rogers Back.
• 36:35
  But I've got that on my notes. So they think Rogers can all of
• 36:39
  your notes? No, I have them on my notes. Aaron Rodgers right
• 36:42
  there. He he is coming off, He's gonna be on the twenty one
• 36:45
  day practice list, He's coming off the Achilles. Do you think he will
• 36:49
  actually be good enough to play? I mean to get there, talk about
• 36:53
  good enough compared to the Jets. We're not We're not talking about We're not
• 36:59
  over here there on that talking about is on the I'm talking about. Do
• 37:04
  you think he was healthy enough to play without getting rest? No, I
• 37:08
  think it. I think it. I think it'd be I really do think
• 37:10
  it would be a mistake for him to come back. I do too,
• 37:13
  That's what that was my point. That's what I was trying to We talked
• 37:15
  about this if you listen to some of our former episodes and we'll repreview it
• 37:20
  next year. Is the one thing that I thought about the Jets and everyone's
• 37:22
  love is I thought the offensive line. They had one of the weakest offensive
• 37:25
  lines in the league, and I thought that would be a concern coming into
• 37:29
  that. We all talked about that that was going to be a problem.
• 37:31
  How much would Aaron Rodgers be running around, obviously trying to escape, trying
• 37:36
  to escape. Didn't think he'd get hurt first or second play or whatever it
• 37:38
  was four, okay, fourth play, So we didn't think that. But
• 37:43
  you know, the Jets currently four and seven, they're gonna be a little
• 37:45
  bit out of the playoffs because you've got the Steelers and the Ravens there and
• 37:51
  then you've got the AFC South. So why do you bring Rogers back?
• 37:53
  I don't think you do. I don't know, but I don't. I
• 37:57
  would say they're they're putting out news saying he's coming back, he's cleared to
• 38:01
  practice, he'll be back. Why would he bringing the currents. This is
• 38:06
  the current Well, I mean it's Jets. They're setting second to last.
• 38:08
  Yeah, I know, but why would you bring an all star quarterback back
• 38:14
  after he cannot be completely healed. I'll pull it the schedule, pull the
• 38:19
  Jets schedule. That will pop up on I can just hit the Jets.
• 38:22
  See what that pulls up on their schedule, because they've got what have they
• 38:27
  got? Six? Is it? Six's another Dolphins game. They've got Houston,
• 38:30
  they've got Atlanta. Now think about him, think about those games Washington.
• 38:37
  You you bump up the hope a little more. Okay, but still
• 38:40
  he is coming back off an achilles tear. I mean he tore his achilles
• 38:45
  tendon. Nine and eight best is what I see for them record with Aaron
• 38:50
  Rodgers coming back. If he does, if he does, if he doesn't.
• 38:53
  But they they've got to hope all these other teams crap out because they're
• 38:59
  not playing. They're playing a softer schedule. The only it looks like the
• 39:02
  hardest game if you take into account that Aaron Rodgers comes back, they're playing
• 39:07
  a softer schedule. Uh, you got the number one defense of the Browns,
• 39:09
  and then you have the Dolphins, and you have those pesky damn Patriots.
• 39:14
  What's number one? I kind of concerned their defense numbers I think are
• 39:16
  gonna drop because their offense is is so horrible right now, right because in
• 39:21
  a bad situation, they're going to have the ball. So so, yeah,
• 39:25
  FLA is coming back. No, I think if I think, if
• 39:28
  I think, if you're the Jets, I think you keep Aaron Rodgers and
• 39:30
  you rest him and you say, hey, if you're coming back next year,
• 39:32
  yes, but if you're not coming back, hey play can you be
• 39:36
  an assistant quarterback coach and help with with all that? So? Yeah,
• 39:40
  but how can you how can you help the quarterback? Which quarterback are you
• 39:46
  talking about? Well, there's Tim I don't know his last name, and
• 39:52
  then exactly not there. How do you help Wilson? I'm sorry, how
• 40:01
  do you help him? If he is he got down to four string?
• 40:05
  Let me look, because I don't think Trevor's played at all, But I
• 40:08
  mean, how do you how do you help that? You don't. Okay,
• 40:13
  they're not any good, So you keep him if he's next year,
• 40:19
  you keep him on the bench. You keep him, you let him recuperate,
• 40:22
  get healthy, and then you hope for a better season next year.
• 40:25
  You don't pull where he gets hurt again, career ending injury. You don't
• 40:31
  do that. Yeah, I agree, Okay, I'm just saying he is
• 40:37
  on the team. Well you think he'd have been better than Tim Boyle.
• 40:40
  I don't understand what slave was thinking to putting boil in. Boil is an
• 40:46
  enigma. I can't even remember where he came from, Pat Packers. He
• 40:51
  was back up to Aaron Rogers. Yeah, but before that, who knows.
• 40:54
  I just know he was Eastern Kentucky that was his college. Yes,
• 40:59
  but he backed up him. So they thought, okay, well let's play
• 41:00
  that guy. Uh, he knows the offense because Hackett was there before,
• 41:05
  et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, you know,
• 41:07
  you just can't plug in. You know, what they're learning is is and
• 41:13
  and they what they have talked about. What they've talked about though, is
• 41:16
  does he or do these quarterbacks? It's a quarterback driven league obviously, And
• 41:21
  then we talk about and we'll get a little bit into the draft and the
• 41:22
  quarterbacks because they are so desperate to find that one. Well, you can't
• 41:29
  what you're saying is not a plug and play offense. You can't just put
• 41:34
  anybody in there, not quarterback. I think the NFL, I mean college
• 41:37
  is keen Case. Keenan would have done a better job. No, I'm
• 41:45
  not disagreeing with that. I mean, if you're bringing in an offense that's
• 41:49
  not as in, you know, intricate, which I don't know how much
• 41:52
  the Nathaniel Hackett Rogers offense is. But I also think that everyone is discrediting
• 41:57
  Zach Wilson and Tim Boyle for having the worst offensive line in the NFL or
• 42:02
  one of the worst. I'm not discounting Zach Wilson. He's made mistakes,
• 42:07
  He's still young. His development is gone off the rail when I'm not young.
• 42:15
  But he's only in the second season. But anyway, a good third
• 42:19
  season, third or fourth third, third. So let's as we're still talking
• 42:23
  about the the a f C right now. I mean, who's a team
• 42:28
  in the a f C that scares you as an Appostimore? Do they scare
• 42:31
  you? Though? I mean they it took him four turnovers to beat the
• 42:36
  Chargers by not a big score. We're not talking about that game was,
• 42:45
  yeah, we're not talking about I got my ass because of the Ran and
• 42:52
  caught for a touchdown. So you I mean you DAGs, the Ravens,
• 42:57
  the Chiefs, and the Dolphins. You know what scares me in that hole?
• 43:00
  Spastic Bills team. No, I'm just saying in the no, it
• 43:06
  really does. A spastic Bills team scares me. I don't know I would
• 43:10
  the Bills that are gonna lay down or am I gonna get the Bills that
• 43:14
  are gonna play? The Jags, the Chiefs, the Dolphins all right now
• 43:17
  over the Bills because you don't know who's showing up. If the Jags are
• 43:21
  playing at Buffalo, I'd take Buffalo. I don't think they're I think they're
• 43:24
  I think you would take Buffalo at home. I would take Buffalo home over
• 43:28
  the Jags because the Jags are pretty spastic. To look at your fantasy I
• 43:31
  understand. I'm not I'm not disagreeing fantasy's murdered. I'm not. I'm not
• 43:37
  disagreeing with this. But my point is is Josh Allen has the most picks,
• 43:42
  the most fuck ups, the most mistakes at one against the Eagles and
• 43:45
  and scored one against the Eagle thirty seven but one game out of the season.
• 43:51
  But he is so many games not disagreeing that he scored third he in
• 43:57
  over time he scored thirty six That not him, but the Bills scored thirty
• 44:00
  four points the one seed, supposedly the best team in NFC. I don't
• 44:06
  think they're that. I don't think there's got a problem with the Dolphins.
• 44:10
  My point, the supposedly best team that we're not thinking is the best team.
• 44:15
  If you can't beat them, then how are you going to beat anybody
• 44:20
  else? Oh no, I'm not saying that turnover ratio, that that he
• 44:24
  his interceptions, that he throws the in. Just don't talk about the interceptions
• 44:32
  and then Josh Allen has It's what cost them more games than anything. He
• 44:38
  looks great when he throws great, but he looks like ship the rest of
• 44:43
  the time. He years any quarterback against my defense. You look at the
• 44:52
  statistics, did we looked at it? More interceptions in the last five years
• 44:57
  than any quarterback in the NFL, any quarterback NFC, AFC, he has
• 45:01
  more more. I'm just saying he plays great games and then he plays his
• 45:08
  normal regular bullshit that he cannot He makes bad decision, bad passes. He
• 45:15
  is not a I thought he was two years ago. I would have said
• 45:19
  he was a generational talent at quarterback, but then you watch him play and
• 45:23
  it's just like it's ship. It really is. He makes bad decisions,
• 45:29
  he throws the ball away, he loses games for them. I don't think
• 45:34
  it's time, though, to give up on him. I think that you
• 45:36
  know, it's he's got you to the playoffs, got talent, but I'm
• 45:39
  just decision. I mean, I'm sorry, Well, I mean that's half.
• 45:45
  I mean that's half of the you know, you got talent, arm
• 45:47
  strength and all that other stuff. The decision making is probably more than fifty
• 45:52
  of what a quarterback needs me doing. I think when Daboll left and went
• 45:54
  to Dave All left and went to the Giants, you saw his player go
• 46:00
  down and his play exceeded when when Dave All was there. So I think
• 46:04
  you're gonna need someone to ring that in. Probably you know, he's a
• 46:07
  lot like Brett fa the coordinator to Dorset. Yeah, yeah, and they
• 46:10
  brought in Joe Brady's there, right, Joe Brady's calling the plays. I
• 46:14
  don't know if that's my opinion is I think I think McDermot gets fired next
• 46:17
  year. This year, I think it's it. I think he's had his
• 46:20
  run, you know, the five six years with the Bills, and you've
• 46:23
  gotten better. But you get to the point with some teams when you're getting
• 46:28
  to the point where some teams it's like, we've got to get over the
• 46:30
  hump. And that's not always a coaches fall, but sometimes it gets vanilla.
• 46:34
  Have you gotten better, You've stayed about the same. You just win
• 46:37
  a few games here and there. It seems like you've you've gotten worse.
• 46:43
  That's that's my assumed you win, but you have he no longer has a
• 46:47
  run win the biggest game. No longer has a run game. And the
• 46:51
  defense has been injured most of the season as well. I mean they've they've
• 46:55
  got a lot of injuries that have happened. Not disagreet, it's it's very
• 47:00
  odd. Keeping your team healthy is one of the most important aspects. And
• 47:06
  they look at Philadelphia. Philadelphia, Uh, they want two losses, one
• 47:09
  loss, one loss, one loss. They're going into They're gonna go play
• 47:14
  San Francisco. I think the games that'll be their second loss. I think
• 47:19
  San Francisco is a better team than Philadelphia. I'll say it right now.
• 47:22
  I'm not saying Philadelphia can't win. But I'm saying San Francisco is a better
• 47:25
  team than Philadelphia right now. If you played them, Yes, if you
• 47:31
  played them ten games, Philadelphia would win nine out of the team. I'm
• 47:36
  not saying that the Eagles can't win. Let's say Dak makes no mistakes?
• 47:39
  Is that? How is that flex to the mic? Dak not being flexed
• 47:47
  already? Well, that's a prime time at three. Dude, is not
• 47:52
  San Francisco to win? And I think forty going in two veteran stadium going
• 47:59
  into I guess it's gonna be cold too, right, probably I'm old.
• 48:05
  Phil would still take Philadelphia. I mean I would still take forty nine ers
• 48:07
  over Philadelphia. I do not see the same team that I saw last year
• 48:12
  in the Eagles. What is the secondary is really bad too? For Billie?
• 48:17
  Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean they I mean, look what
• 48:20
  Josh, but but I do have But that's and that's that's kind of my
• 48:25
  point. So anyway, let's go back to day. See anybody scary there,
• 48:30
  anybody Nobody like I said, the Dolphins are the Dolphins are like the
• 48:37
  Cowboys. They beat the teams, you know what. Nobody's saying anything about
• 48:40
  a sneaky Denver team. Hey, I'm gonna tell you right now, Denver,
• 48:46
  one more win and I'll start being on Denver side. Probably they are
• 48:52
  already above five hundred. I laugh to Zach when he picked him second,
• 49:00
  Sean or me and christ and having third. Now you are the most wrongest
• 49:05
  apparent. But the Raiders haven't been playing bad either, Noney up here.
• 49:15
  So they've got Lions, Chargers. Well, they start with the Texans,
• 49:21
  and I know the Texans are favorite. Yeah, Okay, Chargers, Lions
• 49:28
  Patriots, Chargers again, and then Raiders close up in wins. Ain't gonna
• 49:34
  be bad in the in the doom. I don't think they beat the Chargers
• 49:37
  both times. I think they beat them once. I think I think Texas
• 49:40
  and Lions win. They split the Chiefs. Have they beat the Raiders.
• 49:49
  Yeah, so they've got one, two, six games, three and three
• 49:54
  nine, three and three nine wins for the Broncos. Ain't bad, say,
• 50:00
  especially they started out. It was a bad one. Owen had to
• 50:06
  be so right now it stands the Ravens are going to get to buy Kansas
• 50:09
  City, Jacksonville or second. Then you got the Dolphins fourth. I don't
• 50:14
  believe in the Dolphins because their defense. They have a really good offense,
• 50:17
  but defense is not there. Steelers have the opposite. They have a really
• 50:21
  good defense and offense is coming around. So we'll see. I don't buy
• 50:24
  it. I still think they I mean, can you imagine, I mean,
• 50:27
  right now your hat off, Kenny Picking grows strong, hated me.
• 50:31
  I mean, it's not hate, it's just I just George Pickens and I
• 50:35
  don't know. Uh so do I drop George Pickens to pick up Brandon Cooks?
• 50:39
  Hey, listen to Browns right now, they're fading it because they really
• 50:43
  are. They had they had to issues, and and the Colts they're hanging
• 50:46
  on. You know. The biggest surprise obviously the Texans and the af C
• 50:52
  Stroud Strouds looked better than I thought he would. I can't remember no in
• 50:59
  this in the n f C not moving one to jump to the NFC.
• 51:05
  We were running at an hour. Four teams that's it. Teams, yes,
• 51:08
  super So uh who scares you there? Is it? The Philly The
• 51:14
  Niners fourteen fourteens scare me last? I mean, but Dallas is the definitely
• 51:20
  because because Philly has you know, two wins over him. No, they
• 51:24
  only have one win over him. Two wins. Well, no, they're
• 51:27
  up to the overall. Well you said they had two wins over them.
• 51:30
  They still play again, Yeah, but two? Yeah, well Dallas has
• 51:32
  too long. They're up two games, they're up to games, and they
• 51:36
  still went over. I still think I think they have to play the forty
• 51:39
  nine ers in Dallas. What's left? That's two of their their games Philly,
• 51:45
  because I think the Phillies playing Phillies playing Fresco this week this week,
• 51:50
  yes, and then the and they played Dallas next week or the week after.
• 51:52
  Are they going to go through thatand it's a week after. I think
• 51:54
  it's not next week, it's a week it's it's running okay, they get
• 52:00
  soft at the end. It's just like you, I'm just knock it out.
• 52:08
  But then they end with Giants, Cardinals, giants, so you know,
• 52:13
  and the last game might not mean anything for you come out like a
• 52:17
  champion. It'll just it'll just depends. You know what. This is this
• 52:21
  right here, those last three games, that's my playoff run. Baby,
• 52:27
  Yeah, that's true. That's if you don't lose up there first right here?
• 52:31
  Yeah, yeah, right here. You mean, if my defense doesn't
• 52:34
  get slaughtered in the Niners. Yes, no, I don't know. I
• 52:37
  think we got two weeks no fortune days, yes, fortunate days the Cowboys
• 52:43
  and then no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 52:45
  it's fourteen days this game. He's going to start the playoffs in No,
• 52:52
  I'm not saying a damn thing because I'll be told I'm stupid by you
• 52:55
  or even this dumb ass playoffs start with the Cowboys there right here. That
• 53:06
  is your playoffs for Cowboys today today. They don't play Sunday. So that's
• 53:13
  we agreed on. It's fine, I'm in the playoffs and we're not.
• 53:19
  We're in the ship. We're in the ship bold playoffs. Did he get
• 53:21
  trophies made? All right? Let's uh but that, I mean, that's
• 53:25
  gonna coaching fire. I want to talk a little bit about that. Oh
• 53:29
  yeah, one offensive coordinators already got fired after now Ruper has it. If
• 53:36
  you remember, Frank Reich was the one that wanted c. J. Stroud
• 53:39
  I know, and uh and and yeah, ownership said no, so what
• 53:45
  do you do you fire the guy that said that he wanted the good rookie.
• 53:49
  Okay, you take the blame. I'm just saying ownership is never going
• 53:53
  to be at fault. It's always gonna ship rolls downhill, ship rolls downhill.
• 54:00
  Period, little ownerships. I'm the owner. I never am wrong,
• 54:06
  You're always yeah, but no, seriously, And you know, Frank Reich's
• 54:13
  too good of a dude to come out and be like, yeah, I
• 54:15
  fucking want a stroud. I sure did. He might hint around it,
• 54:20
  but well no, he hasn't said anything since he's been fired. And you
• 54:23
  know it's one of those deals. Hey, hopefully he signed it. You
• 54:27
  know, at least got in there with a four year contract. Gonna make
• 54:29
  some money. Uh, and go on, let's talk a little bit about
• 54:31
  the Does anybody hire him as coordinator? Yeah, he'll be He'll have a
• 54:35
  job as coordinator, for sure. I think his run and ahead might be
• 54:38
  done unless he goes in as offensive coordinator, has a couple of gigs,
• 54:44
  Yeah, comes back out. Yeah I could, I could see that,
• 54:46
  but definitely oc somewhere, Yes, for sure, because I hear he's a
• 54:51
  really good quarterback coach. I mean a really good quarterback coach. And hey,
• 54:59
  Giants, maybe possibly I can see that. I can see try to
• 55:04
  save day balls. As worked with Dave All, Did he work with it.
• 55:07
  Yeah, he would have. He did, he was he did because
• 55:09
  when Frank left his coordinator, that's how Dave All got the job. Yeah.
• 55:14
  Yeah, So draft, talk about a little bit about the NFL draft
• 55:19
  as we wrap up. Currently right now, I've got nothing for that.
• 55:22
  No, currently, right now, the trade Bears trade give the Giants Caleb
• 55:28
  Williams. No, No, the thing I wanted to trade I saw,
• 55:31
  I saw. I want to give credit to Chris Trapas butcher in your name,
• 55:37
  Chris, it's Trapasoa Trapasa from CBS Sports. He had a interesting draft,
• 55:45
  Mack and he had obviously the Bears number one, and they were going
• 55:50
  to trade fields to the Raiders for some some random suggestion. But I had.
• 55:57
  But the thing about it is he was his number one pick was Drake
• 56:00
  me Yes, no, Drake. I saw that Drake May Williams moving on
• 56:07
  slip and they had him number three to the Patriots. Now is that gonna
• 56:10
  be good enough for him to go to the Patriots or You're gonna have to
• 56:13
  come back? And Caleb, I mean, was that on? Was he
• 56:15
  on the list? New York Times? On his list? San Diego Chargers?
• 56:22
  I forget who was his list? Those two teams. I know those
• 56:23
  two teams were on his list. I thought he had the Bears one.
• 56:27
  I thought he wanted to market. He didn't have he did, but Bears
• 56:30
  went on his list. Cowboys was one. Take Cowboys's trade, Dack,
• 56:37
  you know i'd be interesting. I'm not Williams to the Bears. Yes,
• 56:46
  yes, I can see that that would be. That would be very interesting.
• 56:52
  Don't make too much noise, no, I think that. I think
• 56:57
  that would be. But you look at the you look at the draft right
• 57:00
  now, you have to remember that the Bears have yeah the uh let me
• 57:06
  spit that out, Frank reis old team, the Panthers. They have the
• 57:08
  Panthers pick. So when you start to look at that, you think the
• 57:13
  Bears could really do I mean the Bears first round. Yeah, we watched
• 57:17
  that. We didn't watch them. We kind of kept up with the game,
• 57:20
  but looked at the stats afterwards, and I mean, there's not a
• 57:22
  lot of talent there at the at the Bears. I mean, you've got
• 57:27
  some here and there. The DJ Moore was a good pick up from the
• 57:30
  Panthers. I mean that was a steal. That's one of the bigger fleecings
• 57:34
  drafts that I've probably ever seen because not that, not that the kid from
• 57:39
  Alabama, I can I'm not thinking of his name, not Mac, but
• 57:43
  Bryce Young especial. I was thinking Mac Jones earlier, Alabama Young, But
• 57:46
  I thought that he's not that he's bad. I mean, you're you're putting
• 57:50
  him also in a position that the Panthers ain't got a lot of talent either.
• 57:54
  Okay, go ahead, you don't have a lot of talent. But
• 58:00
  I don't know, I don't. I don't think Bryce Young has got the
• 58:04
  frame, the body size talked to be a NFL I mean, I'm sorry,
• 58:10
  I just don't see it. I don't. I don't because he's proven
• 58:15
  it this year. Yes, the talent around him is not great, but
• 58:21
  he I mean, I'm sorry. C J. Stroud looks way better sure
• 58:29
  than he does. But it's a talent team or the talent. I understand
• 58:32
  this, But you you got to think about Houston. Houston has had some
• 58:37
  picks. They got Will Anderson, you know, because they traded for another
• 58:39
  one, number one pick. So they've been building a team in that draft
• 58:44
  because they've been so bad for so long. Not that Carolina hasn't, but
• 58:49
  are really close together Houston may be a little above him talent, but okay,
• 58:53
  sure. But what I'm saying is, if you look at the records,
• 58:57
  look what they've done this year, there's there's not there's a huge difference
• 59:01
  in the records what they've done. There's a huge difference in the actual talent
• 59:07
  on their team you've had. We're not going to give anything to make run.
• 59:10
  That's why's getting ready. Say you've heard a defensive head coach to try
• 59:13
  to improve that when your offense has gotten You know, Tank Dale was a
• 59:19
  good pick up later in the later rounds. You know, so that guy's
• 59:22
  come out of nowhere, so and then and Stroud obviously he has played better.
• 59:24
  And they've got they've got some they've had a better offensive line. They've
• 59:30
  built a little better be where they have Will Anderson and and the other some
• 59:32
  other defensive pieces. But they have built better through the draft because they've been
• 59:37
  down. Does that say the thing to you about the team that they were
• 59:38
  the last two seasons, which I think they've been getting. They've got two
• 59:42
  of Cleveland's picks and one of them is traded for that Will Anderson much.
• 59:45
  But do you but do you let's say anything about because we saw Davis Mills
• 59:52
  not play horrible no, no, but that line was that line because they
• 59:58
  kept that line mostly integ But the play baking ability with his feet is what
• 1:00:04
  Stroud has helped. And and he doesn't I mean, he's made some mistakes,
• 1:00:07
  but he just he's a baller. He's one of those guys. And
• 1:00:09
  I wouldn't have thought, but but he is. He is. He just
• 1:00:14
  watching. He gets out on the field and he does. He's a winner.
• 1:00:17
  And look at it, no matter what happened field general, he gets
• 1:00:23
  in, he gets hisself in position to win, which which makes a lot
• 1:00:29
  of difference. Do not make the stupid decisions. Don't throw hill Mary at
• 1:00:32
  the end of the second half just to have it ran back, And don't
• 1:00:37
  discount look at what look at Ohio State's offense this year compared to what they
• 1:00:42
  were last year with Stroud, with McCord this year, it's night and day.
• 1:00:45
  I mean McCord threw two picks in that Michigan game and they only lost
• 1:00:49
  by six, So I lost. Michigan is down from what they were last
• 1:00:58
  year. Michigan and crowding, crowd being here, I mean, you look
• 1:01:07
  at that. So they've been they've been very different as far as that goes.
• 1:01:13
  So, but anyway, you've got you know, mock drafts have the
• 1:01:15
  Bears taking number one Drake May or Kayleb Williams. You know, I've said
• 1:01:19
  from the beginning, trade down, trade down, trade down, Chicago,
• 1:01:22
  don't take Williams, don't take May. If you're if you think Justin Fields
• 1:01:27
  is your problem, you've got another thing coming. That team has got a
• 1:01:30
  lot more problems than Justin Fields. Now, he's not a solution, but
• 1:01:35
  he's there's a lot more problem. There is more problems, I agree,
• 1:01:38
  but Fields is he is a problem, but he is not the problem.
• 1:01:44
  He is a big problem. He is not the problem. Now. And
• 1:01:47
  do you think with one quarterback, if you're Chicago, if you think with
• 1:01:52
  one quarterback that you're going to automatically get into the playoffs? No, that's
• 1:01:57
  hold on. But that's why you trade down. And you see what draft
• 1:02:00
  class. Now, I have been on record that said that the quality that
• 1:02:02
  the quality of the this year's quarterback draft class is going to be one of
• 1:02:06
  the best for quarterback at the beginning of the year. I'm changed, I'm
• 1:02:09
  slowly regressing. I think it's more quantity in this draft and quality. Yes,
• 1:02:15
  so I think that the most NFL looking ready guy it might be Bo
• 1:02:20
  Nicks. To be honest, he looks the most nflready because Jade runs a
• 1:02:28
  little bit more. For me, though, I understand this for the NFL.
• 1:02:32
  The NFL right now, you have Hurt and you have Draft Baltimore Lamar.
• 1:02:38
  I'm just say the most they're both very run heavy. They're succeeding,
• 1:02:46
  they're doing well. Yeah, but I mean you have to admit though that
• 1:02:50
  Lamar throws the ball a little more or throws it away now he is,
• 1:02:52
  he yes, but but he's still still run heavy and Hurts is the same
• 1:03:02
  way Hurts. Hurts throws the ball. Yes, but when it comes,
• 1:03:08
  if you look at the Eagles and what they do four yards or less,
• 1:03:15
  you're gonna know that Hurts ninety percent of the time is gonna have the ball
• 1:03:19
  in his hand and he's gonna run it for the first down. Would you
• 1:03:22
  agree with that? Yes? Okay, So so you can be a little
• 1:03:30
  heavier towards the run. That's what I'm trying to say. If you're that
• 1:03:36
  good and seeing this mock draft here, Scott, actually Pinnick's going ahead of
• 1:03:42
  Bonicks. Actually Bonix is not even his top twenty five. And well that's
• 1:03:45
  just stupid that. I'm sorry, no what I'm saying, But seeing this,
• 1:03:51
  guys, he doesn't have do you see do you see anywhere here where
• 1:03:57
  Pinnix is in the first round picks, which not on this one. So
• 1:04:01
  two guys, both from CBS Sports, have talked about and they both have
• 1:04:05
  different variations that quarterback. And that's what I continue to say. You could
• 1:04:10
  potentially get one of those in the second third round those Yes, if you're
• 1:04:15
  the Bears, he's gonna I saw that. But but he's not got Phoenix
• 1:04:20
  anywhere. Okay, so but the Bears trade down. I'm not disagreeing with
• 1:04:25
  trade down round. There's so many quarterbacks this year. Like you said,
• 1:04:31
  quantity not quality. There's also that bullshit of the media hyping up players who
• 1:04:41
  should be taken first who are not first rounders. That's what I'm saying,
• 1:04:45
  is one of the general managers eat that ship. I'm not saying Caleb Williams,
• 1:04:48
  you might not be because I'm not gonna go on the record and say
• 1:04:51
  he's gonna be a total bust. I mean, I don't think he's gonna
• 1:04:54
  be a total I'm leaning towards total bust over a superstar. Well I would
• 1:04:59
  lean that way, okay, but there could be a middle round. I'm
• 1:05:01
  not saying there's not, but I'm saying he'll be more closer to a tone.
• 1:05:05
  But I know, I know my opinion he's not and if I'm in
• 1:05:10
  the top five, I'm not taking him. But I know that half the
• 1:05:13
  NFL wants to. And that's why I say. That's going back to the
• 1:05:17
  don't miss out, all right, that's going back to the don't miss out
• 1:05:20
  for a superstar. So instead of making smart decisions, so Bears, when
• 1:05:26
  you fire Poles, because you know you're going to hire these guys to be
• 1:05:30
  your GM, and we'll win for the next not next year. We won't
• 1:05:33
  win next year either, No, no, no, we need two years.
• 1:05:35
  And but you're gonna see all those draft picks, even this year and
• 1:05:40
  next turn into something more than what one Caleb Williams is gonna do. Okay,
• 1:05:44
  Okay, I'm not disagreeing with that. My point is is they're so
• 1:05:49
  worried about missing the next great player, the next great quarterback, that they
• 1:05:56
  they they're afraid they take ship that should not They take players that should not
• 1:06:00
  be taken because they're worried about missing out. That's correct. Instead of worrying
• 1:06:04
  about what could benefit their team make them better, they're worried about, oh,
• 1:06:10
  what if he does turn out good? That's the problem. You have
• 1:06:14
  to get out of the scared mode and go into the this is what's better
• 1:06:17
  for my team? Correct. But you do. But you will always be
• 1:06:23
  villified for the ones you miss more than the ones you don't. I'm sorry,
• 1:06:29
  you're probably more villified for the ones you miss versus the ones you hit.
• 1:06:33
  Not disagreeing with that, but if you look at that record year after
• 1:06:39
  year of saying general managers have about a three to five year window, I
• 1:06:43
  know, like they're a little bit more than a coach generally because they usually
• 1:06:47
  have the right tire one. But played the odds. If you played the
• 1:06:53
  odds, I know. But if you played the odds of don't worry about
• 1:06:57
  the one superstar you missed, worry about you picking players that's not gonna be
• 1:07:03
  there. They're not gonna be the superstar. You would look better. You
• 1:07:06
  would save your job, you would keep your job longer. No, and
• 1:07:11
  do bat I would agree because I mean, I'm looking at some of these
• 1:07:13
  draft picks and you've got this, uh this, uh, I'm not a
• 1:07:16
  fan fash now. Fash Now, he's an offensive line offensive tackle, for
• 1:07:21
  he must play right tackle, lize or left tackle because it doesn't say but
• 1:07:27
  they've got him at both in the top five. And I'm thinking, and
• 1:07:30
  I'm not saying that offensive linemen shouldn't be drafted high in the draft, but
• 1:07:34
  you can find a lot of other offensive linemen later in that draft round.
• 1:07:42
  These draft positions need to be skilled guys. They need to be defensive linemen,
• 1:07:45
  they need to be quarterbacks, they need to be wide receivers. Those
• 1:07:48
  are the skilled receivers. Those are the skilled positions. I think you take
• 1:07:53
  in in the first round of the pick if you ain't got a good or
• 1:07:58
  you trade down and you get an other pick, hoping to get another lineman
• 1:08:01
  to see if he works out or not, you know, to pan out
• 1:08:04
  or whatever. So uh oh, you know, and corner shutting down corner
• 1:08:08
  obviously you got to that's another skill position that you got to look at.
• 1:08:13
  And but I'm telling you, Bears, and if your Bears fan sewn,
• 1:08:16
  you don't want to go in hoping to trade justin fields. Just for a
• 1:08:21
  fourth or fifth round pick or even a third and think you know Caleb's going
• 1:08:28
  to save the day or even Drake May. It's just no, I thank
• 1:08:31
  you, you're the Bears. You trade down, you can get Paul.
• 1:08:35
  Look what Look what if Carolina give up for there just to move up a
• 1:08:42
  few spots and you know where they're at right exactly. And that's my point.
• 1:08:46
  Well, if you're worried about setting now at a position to go,
• 1:08:50
  I got their pick and ours, Hey trade down again, and then you're
• 1:08:55
  gonna have a lot more picks to come. But my fear, my fear
• 1:08:59
  is is I think they take Caleb Williams. I think he's I think if
• 1:09:00
  he if they know, I think they're gonna have I think he's gonna be
• 1:09:06
  I think he's gonna be signed already before the draft, and and then it's
• 1:09:10
  just gonna be who plays number two. But that that's where I'm getting at.
• 1:09:15
  You don't take ship because you're worried about I mean, Caleb could be
• 1:09:18
  good or he could be bad. It's toss up, seriously, but I
• 1:09:23
  mean one of the best college quarterbacks we've ever seen. So you're gonna think
• 1:09:27
  that that's some of that's gonna translate into the NFL. But I don't,
• 1:09:30
  I don't. I think he's a donna. I think there's you worry more
• 1:09:33
  about the mental stuff. Yeah, I think that's where I'm at. I'm
• 1:09:38
  sorry, I understand that. I don't think you. I don't think overboard
• 1:09:43
  on getting Caleb. My more concern was the running ability. I just don't
• 1:09:47
  think you're young. Yeah you could run, but you get those injuries and
• 1:09:51
  then you're gonna turn around and you're gonna say, Okay, now I've got
• 1:09:55
  to change my whole conk Lamar has done. Labar won the MVP years back
• 1:10:00
  because he was running the ball and throwing the ball. He's changed up a
• 1:10:03
  little bit. Their team is still good and he's still good, but their
• 1:10:08
  defense has improved as well. At that to help him out. To make
• 1:10:12
  that saw them left the defense and kind of that kind of went down,
• 1:10:15
  went down, and now they're coming back and it makes him look better.
• 1:10:19
  I agree. I agree. I mean, you watched the game the other
• 1:10:23
  night. I mean it was not a high spot scoring game. Don't worry
• 1:10:27
  about stats when you're healthy. Yes, it's not a high scoring game.
• 1:10:30
  The defense helped you out to get that win the other night against the Chargers.
• 1:10:35
  Don't make the mistakes, don't get hurt. There you go. Yeah,
• 1:10:38
  I agree with that. Well, no, and that and that's and
• 1:10:40
  that is the change that we've seen on that. Can Caleb Williams do that
• 1:10:45
  too? Is he able to make that change as far as when he comes
• 1:10:48
  to the NFL? And I don't know. I don't know if he can.
• 1:10:54
  Mentally he seems already he seems mentally incapable of just succeeding, Like he's
• 1:11:01
  like too much. He wants to say that too much is put on him
• 1:11:05
  when you know you've got eleven other guys on that team, there are ten
• 1:11:11
  other guys on that offense. You got guys dropping balls all over the place.
• 1:11:15
  I don't know if you if you have many of the USC games you've
• 1:11:17
  watched, he didn't have a lot of help. Yeah, I mean he
• 1:11:21
  did not. I would agree with that. But I also think though I
• 1:11:25
  would say even Marvin Mims was not a lot of help this season. Mario
• 1:11:30
  Williams he statistically went down confused, He statistically went down from leaving then to
• 1:11:38
  that. So but no, I just I think they I think you're looking
• 1:11:41
  at Marvin Harrison, You're looking at the Tay the tay a lot too from
• 1:11:47
  U. C. L A. You're looking at you know, Troup Robinson's
• 1:11:51
  name has been up there, kool Aid from from Alabama what is that?
• 1:11:57
  And some other and the first guy from But you know what, I like,
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  that's kind of dropped in some of these poles. I mean, I
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  mean because tight end. You know, Pitts was drafted so high by the
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  Falcons and he's been so underused, like generational, if not generationally generation,
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  Pitts came out as one of the one of the best tight ends allegedly to
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  be you know that have played college ball. The brock Bowers kid from Georgia.
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  He's the guy that if I'm I'm at Tampa guy, they're gonna be
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  setting around eight to eleven. I mean, like, yes, please get
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  that. People don't know Kenny loves his Tampa Bay right here, Tampa Bay.
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  He loves he just loves tight ends in Tampa Bay. Like Kenny from
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  Chicago. He loves tight ends. And I don't know about Tampa Bay,
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  but he loves tight end. I think, but no, I think Brown
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  brought Bowers. I could be the next generational talent that I'm going to predict.
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  I predicted Say Flowers. Now that this guy, this guy, no
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  one had heard his Flowers except this guys you've never heard of him. Quick
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  John was ahead of him, and so we don't know. But I can't
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  take credit for Bowers because everyone knows he's a badass. But I'm telling you,
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  this guy in the NFL reminds me of a Gronk better than Mark Andrews
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  big Old And that's that is a player right there, that you have a
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  quarterback that is young in experience, that has that opening there that you could
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  be able or he's the final piece to getting a team that's really good out
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  there. I mean, can you imagine. And he's a guy that I
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  think will miss. That's just my opinion. All right, that's all the
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  NFL talk that I have tonight. I talked more than I thought I would
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  this week's games. Did you just say you're talking more than you thought you
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  would? Well for NFL, I mean we would have talked last week for
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  like two hours. I'm just saying, you never talked more than we thought
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  you would. Yeah, I mean, if we ever think that you're never
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  closed up yeah, more than you believe. You're talking one thing as far
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  as in closing with the NFL, the NFL and the what are your thoughts
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  on that hold on portal has in the portal for the n c a A,
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  you start to see the NFL portal well, I said, oh,
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  I said in the portal for the NCAA, I said, And I'm giving
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  you a hard time. And so you've seen them to start to get I've
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  seen them to get closer together. They're starting to get the parody is.
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  I know this year you're looking at four undefeated teams and it doesn't show it
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  right now, but if you start to look at the two and three loss
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  teams and those polls, that list has grown, has grown good, two
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  to three loss grown. Now you still have the undefeated, but the parody
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  is starting to move to move closer, and it's starting to look like the
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  NFL. NFL is the most popularly. Look at the these the statistics for
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  people that are watching these games. Your CBS is wreak again gazillions because they
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  paid a gazillion to get the NFL, so now they're getting double gazillions.
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  It's amazing to see how there's amazing to see the people that are watching that.
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  So once you get these games, you pull in a Georgia versus Missouri
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  or to get these games closer, these people are going to start watching it
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  more. Now it's going to turn off some old school fans for college because
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  it's I don't like if they pay to play talk. No, No,
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  here's the deal. Excuse he's old, Kenny's. What Kenny's saying is is
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  there's true die hard fans that I mean, you're you're an n c A
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  A fan. Oh yeah, I'm definitely more college you are too. Yeah,
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  us, there's more little old mad but I mean that's three here.
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  We live in Oklahoma, So I mean there's not a we're not in love
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  with You know if I wouldn't, No, I don't think it would because
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  Chelsea, you look at the the n c A, it's more pure football.
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  You look at the NFL, it's more who has the most money,
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  who can who can buy the team to I think I got that backwards because
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  no NFL has a cat. It's hard doesn't have a cat. Now No,
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  now, now, now, I'm not talking about now, I'm talking
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  about for the past years. I'm not talking about the last I'm not talking
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  about. What I'm saying is is the NFL. You you look Los Angeles,
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  they bought a team to go win. Talk about the Rams. The
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  Rams. Okay, so they bought one, and now what have they done
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  since they haven't? But I'm saying is if you have the money, you
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  can buy a But they didn't really have the money. They just they those
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  teams divert. They move money around. It's not that they have extra money.
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  It's like they because they all have the same but they're winning one to
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  lose four. Okay, but do you can you say that they bought that
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  championship that year the year they won. Yeah, they did hold up that
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  they didn't buy. They didn't buy it. They bought it. You know
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  what they do. It's not it's not that they're buying any more. It's
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  just their divert. It's it's more not buying. It's more about calculating.
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  I don't know what the right word to describe that. But it's not that
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  they paid more money. It's just they they took everyone in and went,
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  hey, I'm going to divert your salary to next year and you're gonna be
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  how much How much do they pay Odell Beckham Junior to hurt his knee.
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  I don't know, but I'm saying my point is you're right they move money
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  around, but the way they move it they bought the championship that year.
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  They bought it. Yes they did. Okay, I wouldn't say they bought
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  it. They plant. But that's I know what you're saying. That sounds
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  almost right. But because it's not because because there's a there's a there's a
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  they couldn't understand. There's just what they've done is they they did everything.
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  They They've done everything they could to get to that. The players too years,
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  So they bought it. Is it worth it? Is it worth it?
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  So a championship is worth losing for the next four or five years?
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  It is? Yes, it is, because it brings money to your organization.
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  Yeah it does. But now college is turning into the NFL on buying
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  players getting there, Okay, And that was my point. I was getting
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  to say, everything is getting closer together to more parody for the n c
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  A, especially now that you're gonna go to a twelve team. I'm agreeing
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  with you. Hold on what I'm saying is no buying. Hold on buying
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  what I'm saying is whoever has the most money is going to buy it.
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  There's no cap, And that was what I was getting ready to say.
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  My point was is you're going to see it. I fear to move this.
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  The n c A is going to go the opposite way because there's no
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  cap. You see the parody getting closer, and now you're just gonna move.
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  But the n C double A is making moves to fix the portal,
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  so you can't Kindle Slovas or JT. Daniels your way out of Yeah,
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  but they're they're they're multiple years away from fixing that. Maybe a couple,
• 1:19:38
  right would you would you do? Is multiple? We had dis argument that
• 1:19:41
  any not argument, but question is multiple? Multiple many? Few? We'd
• 1:19:45
  say multiple would be two to three? Actually, no, hold on,
• 1:19:48
  I would never say multiples too. I always say a couple. That's a
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  couple of too, multiples three to five? Okay, Okay, that's a
• 1:19:57
  couple of years away from that. There are a couple of and they've already
• 1:20:00
  they have already started to crack down two to three, they've already started to
• 1:20:04
  crack down. You've got the kids that are running out of their COVID year.
• 1:20:08
  So how they and they are and they are starting to cut down on
• 1:20:12
  the transfer soon I understand. However, you want to defy that two to
• 1:20:15
  three years is what I'm saying. See, and they don't have to support
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  this ship because it's not through the school one. I don't understand this.
• 1:20:21
  Texas A and M throws millions of dollars out each year and they still suck.
• 1:20:27
  How How how do you play that? Much older man told me one
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  time, he said, you can sometimes you throw a bunch of money out
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  of problem. It's still going to be a problem. I'm not just got
• 1:20:36
  to do it right. Okay. So you're saying that they're not doing what
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  they're not doing it over there? Actually not mine, okay, but that's
• 1:20:48
  all I have. I would thanks for doing this. We're going to end
• 1:20:51
  on the money talk and how we sound like old right now, but anyway,
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  we do. We are we are. But no, I think that's
• 1:21:00
  the concern about college and that's what and that's what I think. The NFL
• 1:21:03
  is continuing to build their brand much bigger in college football is starting to take
• 1:21:09
  a back seat to some of that, I really do and I think it's
• 1:21:11
  because of that. There's a turnoff to a certain core of people that don't
• 1:21:15
  that have left that. Yeah, because because getting paid in the NFL is
• 1:21:21
  one thing, getting paid in college is another thing. And when when you
• 1:21:26
  go down the road of A and M and some of these other big schools
• 1:21:30
  that has a lot of money and they still suck, well when you think
• 1:21:34
  about it, and the perfect example right here is the NFL now capped first
• 1:21:40
  round pick and they're pay you know, Sam Bradford was the last one to
• 1:21:43
  make gazillions money. He was signed a sixty three million dollar contract and he'd
• 1:21:48
  never played in the NFL before and so much of that was guaranteed and good
• 1:21:51
  for him. But now they've capped all that back because they're like, wait
• 1:21:55
  a minute, why are we giving all these nobodies when the three to five
• 1:21:58
  year guys that are looking for under extension can't get that money because of the
• 1:22:01
  cat. Yes, So essentially what college now is is you've played in high
• 1:22:05
  school and we're gonna give you a million dollars this year to come here.
• 1:22:09
  That's what happened. Later you take a college take it away. Yeah,
• 1:22:14
  you can't just have a free for all. And this school has more money,
• 1:22:16
  so they're gonna pay more money. I'm sorry, I don't like that.
• 1:22:20
  College used to be more pure. It used to be where the kid
• 1:22:25
  wanted to go. Hey, the range. A perfect example is the Rangers
• 1:22:28
  and the Yankees run to the two thousands. You know, they had the
• 1:22:30
  most money. They won simply. You know, that's why baseball is a
• 1:22:34
  dying sport. I can tell anybody that likes baseball it's dying because of the
• 1:22:40
  fucking money that's involved in baseball period. The Braves, the Bigs, the
• 1:22:45
  big market, and now the Braves big market. You just keep spending money,
• 1:22:49
  you know. The teams I root for the small market teams that make
• 1:22:51
  the playoffs, make a run. Tampa Bay has been a perfect example lately,
• 1:22:57
  is there one of the smaller market teams. Payroll is down towards to
• 1:23:00
  you know. Now they've increased it lately because they had some runs and made
• 1:23:03
  some money. But you know that's there. You know, then you go
• 1:23:05
  to try to buy fast and then a year after two you sell off and
• 1:23:11
  you're done because you can't afford it because you're small market. All right,
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  that was my I even threw a little baseball on that, all right,
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  sewn anything before we leave no Wes tonight. Yeah, but I think that
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  good conversation might not have been heard. Uh, it seems that we lost
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  internet for a minute. Yeah. Cool. All right, well, if
• 1:23:30
  you're still listening, thanks everyone for joining us. Appreciate it. We'll see
• 1:23:32
  you next Monday, hopefully around seven o'clock. We don't have any studio issues.
• 1:23:38
  We'll be back next Monday to talk about the Bowl games. We're gonna
• 1:23:42
  talk about the Final Four. It's gonna be nuts and that is gonna be
• 1:23:45
  our show for next Monday. It will be all called. Yeah, I
• 1:23:47
  realized, I realized why. So anyway, all right, thanks, thanks
• 1:23:51
  for joining us. Appreciate it. Bye, everyone, Bye, and wimmen nay madame