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- 0:00Just to create a solar panel. The composition is eighty- five percent aluminum
- 0:04and thus eleven percent copper, in addition to other minerals, a wind turbine.
- 0:11We need aluminum and steel and that although the aim is to create something
- 0:15that takes advantage of renewable energies, we resort to mining and exploitation of the
- 0:22subsoil and we do not go so far or brotherly. What it takes to
- 0:24create a cell phone, no, because it' s too much. They
- 0:27are mainly lithium for batteries, cobalt and all kinds of heavy metals that,
- 0:32to begin with, waste a lot of water in seconds use a lot of
- 0:37chemicals to drill stones and all that damages what is the earth' s surface
- 0:42and ecosystem. Evidently clear hello. How can I welcome you to one more
- 1:17episode of wisdom hidden your source of mystical knowledge, it is hotter and spiritual.
- 1:23My name is Moses Guzman, if this is your first time on this
- 1:26channel. Here we are engaged in seeking our own truth and this expansion of
- 1:33consciousness, and today is an episode, a little different, a special episode.
- 1:40I have here with me my dear brother, Nicolás Silva. How are
- 1:44you, my brother? Nice to meet you, brother, actually. I
- 1:47' m very grateful that you invited me to your table. I have seen
- 1:51some videos and find them extremely interesting and I hope to be able to contribute
- 1:56something to the people who listen to you. No thanks to you, my
- 1:59brother, for accepting the invitation. As I had said in a previous episode,
- 2:04some somewhat political issues that we are going to discuss today. But I
- 2:07have always said that knowledge is power. So I think knowing what' s
- 2:15going on and the things that come to affect us, directly or indirectly,
- 2:19is good. Totally in agreement and especially when we talk about political power,
- 2:24regardless of whether or not we like to participate actively in public affairs, public
- 2:30affairs impact our lives. So, as you well mentioned, it is necessary
- 2:37to be informed, at least to know what is happening on stage in our
- 2:40country. Yes, there aren' t many things going under the water,
- 2:46so to speak notarly, and speaking of water, we' re going to
- 2:53deal with those issues of water, water wars, climate changes, energy sovereignty
- 2:59and, a little bit there of drug trafficking. In the end, in
- 3:08addition to Mexico' s foreign debt, which was almost fifteen billion pesos,
- 3:12there is also a water debt of a water treaty that was signed out there
- 3:17of one thousand nine hundred forty- four. What can you tell me about
- 3:23this, my brother yes, this indeed, there is also a historical debt,
- 3:29we could say to the United States around water. This takes place in
- 3:34one thousand and forty- four in the Water Treaty signed by both governments,
- 3:38in which Mexico is committed to giving thirty percent of the water flowing from our
- 3:44main rivers to the Rio Bravo to the United States. Now why is this
- 3:52done good, mainly because water is a very important issue for the agricultural sector,
- 3:58which must be remembered that the United States is the number one food power.
- 4:03So he' s not gonna put this thing aside. And the problem
- 4:11has mainly been that Mexico has experienced a series of droughts that have prevented it
- 4:15from being able to pay those concessions that were agreed in the nine hundred and
- 4:20forty- four U S Water Treaty, and the U S Government has therefore
- 4:26been pressing our country to comply with the agreements of that Treaty. So that
- 4:30' s why we can see situations like the two thousand twenty- one,
- 4:34where the Chihuahua peasants besieged the dam at the mouthpiece and closed the floodgates because
- 4:42the Mexican government is giving water from our own dams to the United States to
- 4:46settle that historic debt. And basically there was no water for the peasants,
- 4:50for agriculture or ships. That' s precisely why they blocked the gate.
- 4:56And what was the government' s response, because walking the National Guard to
- 5:00reprint the people, of course, sadly, as you say, my brother,
- 5:06sadly the people paying for government mistakes. And on this issue of water
- 5:12wars there have been several more precedents in different countries. What do you think
- 5:17there are so many. Actually, the issue of water is something that has
- 5:20been a territorial dispute since historical times. But in order to get into the
- 5:26present, we can go to the dispute on the Nile River between Ethiopia,
- 5:30South Sudan, North Egypt, Central Asia, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan,
- 5:33and Southeast Asia, between China, Nepal, Thailand and Vietnam. The problem
- 5:43of water arises mainly because the countries that are upriver are those that have the
- 5:46full control of because the draining of water and the countries that are in downstream
- 5:51or where the rivers flow because they are affected mainly because the countries build dams
- 5:59And this makes that, because all the water that is stored decreases the amount
- 6:03of water that reaches all other countries will cover everything basically yes, and that
- 6:08is part of the problem also that there is between Mexico and the United States.
- 6:14Well, and this problem between the United States and Mexico, as a
- 6:16result of the signing of this Treaty, my brothers, arises from the fact
- 6:23that Mexico wanted to be granted water from the Colorado River, because we have
- 6:28a small score, a small basin that flows into the Sea of Cortes.
- 6:31Then the peasants wanted that water and the U S government did what it did,
- 6:35because it was saying we' re going to let you use water from
- 6:40your own rivers, but in return, you' re going to have to
- 6:43give us the water that runs along the Bravo River too for Texas farmers to
- 6:46use. And the problem arises that, as we know, the northeastern part
- 6:49of the country is an area that has experienced many droughts. Yes, and
- 6:55there' s no way that water can be replenished. Well, and seeing
- 6:59how it is, I think water management here in Mexico, specifically hasn'
- 7:01t been optimal. Well, the issue of water management in Mexico has been
- 7:06a very neglected issue by the government. I would venture to say that before
- 7:12the neoliberal period, which is known as this, the government did not invest
- 7:16enough in infrastructure. But the neoliberal governments not only stopped investing, but they
- 7:21stopped maintaining that existing infrastructure and began granting public water services. Water is a
- 7:30democratic good, a right is not even a human right, it is a
- 7:34right of survival. And what these politicians do is sell, is privatize,
- 7:41and the concept that these water privatizations bring is that citizens are the main cause
- 7:46of water waste. So what you want to do, you want to regulate
- 7:53that so that you stop wasting water through costs. And this means without n
- 7:58signifi s s s s ns. More water with sums or the more water
- 8:01you waste because more you will pay on your water receipt. So this seems
- 8:05logical. No, but the point is that it is not taken into account
- 8:09that companies have a lot of money to pay and sometimes carry out processes that
- 8:16are, therefore, like breweries not that waste a lot of water. Like
- 8:20the coke cola coolers, thirty- five liters of water to make half a
- 8:24liter of coc ok. So those who can pay can waste a lot of
- 8:30water and those who don' t have money don' t have access to
- 8:31it. If in the end, who is affected, because it is the
- 8:35people, it is not the people who have no water, as in this
- 8:39case the peasants you spoke of. But here too, not in a new
- 8:43lion, the drought that has taken place. If water cuts have always been
- 8:46a problem, also not, and suddenly I hear that there is in Juarez,
- 8:50for example, Santa Catarina months without water. If not, and if
- 8:58those same people did not, after so many months without water, decided to
- 9:01go to strike there to the Paseo Santa Lucía and there you saw people bathing
- 9:05in the green water, not endangering with so many chemicals, because in fact
- 9:09I do not know if you remember that precisely there was a religious group that
- 9:13went to pray to the river Santa Catarina and found the virgin there. I
- 9:18remember they pulled it out and they were drinking that water I had. I
- 9:22don' t know any more stuck months and that because it was holy water,
- 9:28they said what that virgin did to her. I think she got up
- 9:30there on the hill. No, I don' t. I think the
- 9:31government put it back, but they didn' t put it there anymore,
- 9:37or I don' t know. I suddenly see there he took up some
- 9:39kind of virgin, but I don' t know if it' s the
- 9:43same one or it' s a replica or what it was. No.
- 9:46I think it should be the same as a symbol of why to remember or
- 9:50not the problem of water and a little hope that it will change well.
- 9:56Something else you want to add about what g water soil is and what treatises
- 10:00there are. I think that makes everything very clear about the problem that Mexico
- 10:05has with the United States and, above all, about the poor management of
- 10:09water. The last thing they would add is that water is a very important
- 10:15issue, as we mentioned, for agriculture and if we do not have a
- 10:20constant source of water to produce our own food, we are leaving a very
- 10:26important flank neglected to depend on the food sold to you by other countries.
- 10:31It' s a big mistake. There' s no other way around here,
- 10:35I mean, just cut off your water for a day or two and
- 10:39it' s a problem for the bathroom for you to bathe in, for
- 10:43your toilet to wash. Yeah, so yeah, I think so. We
- 10:46should create a little awareness of that, because I feel that it can lead
- 10:52to a civil war basically that there is no water, not that the crazy
- 10:56people kay go and those who do have water, like the beer brewers,
- 11:01because they take them away by force. I don' t feel like it
- 11:05can go that far, because I think that we here in Monterrey were very
- 11:07calm about the water issue. Let' s see how they get in Mexico
- 11:11City. Now I don' t know if you heard that they' re
- 11:15one hundred and thirty days away, if I don' t remember day zero,
- 11:20or being like us in water their national problem. Moving on to another
- 11:24issue that is also related to climate change. There is no water and besides,
- 11:30because it also does not rain definitively, and well this climate change.
- 11:37We have been told a lot that it is man' s fault, that
- 11:41it is anthropogenic changes, but there is also another theory that is handled there
- 11:46I am more convinced of that, that are geological changes of the earth produced
- 11:50by the flares of the sun, those explosions that affect the electromagnetic field and
- 11:56that sadly make the droughts more severe and that the times of price pitations are
- 12:01more exacerbated. As Hurricane Otis now in Acapulco was a category two and within
- 12:07an hour it became a category five. Yes, no one saw it coming
- 12:11and it destroyed everything here, not every warrior. So speaking of climate change,
- 12:15they also place a great deal of blame on what the Green Agenda is.
- 12:20I don' t know, it' s kind of a costume because
- 12:24you say. Yes, I want renewable resources, not to use renewable resources
- 12:28for my energy. But really what is behind building all these things from solar
- 12:33panels and air turbines, because it carries a lot of mining as well.
- 12:41Yes, it is not a subject that they want to sell us as a
- 12:46solution and that if we want to refute it, we simply have to look
- 12:50at the example of Germany. Today, Germany decided to shut down its nuclear
- 12:54reactors. If I remember correctly, they were eight and decided to close them
- 12:58to transition to green energy and also to Russian gas. So, now,
- 13:03with this war there in Europe, Russia closes the gas pipelines. The renewable
- 13:09energies sadly are intermittent energies, that is, we are at the expense of
- 13:15blowing the air to make the mills work, to have sun and so on.
- 13:20Then they' re not reliable sources. And all this energy that is
- 13:24being lost, both renewable energy and gas. Germany is supplanting him, burning
- 13:28coal. In other words, they are countries that are promoting the Green Agenda
- 13:31and that, in order to solve their problems, are polluting more than all
- 13:37underdeveloped countries. And, as you well mentioned, the issue of mines is
- 13:39something that is not mentioned. Around there, only to create a solar panel,
- 13:46the composition is eighty- five percent aluminum and thus eleven percent copper,
- 13:50in addition to other minerals, a wind turbine, is needed aluminum and steel
- 13:56and that, although the aim is to create something that approves made renewable energies,
- 14:00since the mining and exploitation of the subsoil is resorted to. And we
- 14:05' re not going that far, brother. What it takes to create a
- 14:09cell phone, no, because it' s too much. They are mainly
- 14:11lithium for batteries, cobalt and all kinds of heavy metals that, to begin
- 14:16with, waste a lot of water in seconds are used a lot of chemicals
- 14:22to drill the stones and all that damages what is the earth' s surface
- 14:26and ecosystem. Obviously, and this brings us to the subject of fracking.
- 14:31This brings us a little bit to the issue of fracking, which is related
- 14:35to hypocrisy, which is handled by the United States and all these pseudo-
- 14:41environmental countries that, in their political faces, are handling a discourse, but
- 14:46on their corporate side, they continue to carry out the same polluting practices.
- 14:48What is fracking. Well, fracking is the pumping of the subsoil to extract
- 14:54all kinds of hydrocarbons. Oil can be extracted, gas can be extracted,
- 14:58oils can be extracted, etcetera. This is done with a tube that pierces
- 15:01the ground and that tube releases water under pressure along with chemicals. So that
- 15:07causes gas and oil to shoot up, and the problem with it is that
- 15:13it pollutes the water that is in the subsoil. These chemicals can cause cancer
- 15:18and can also cause earthquakes in their removal. Yes, well, for all
- 15:24the fractures he makes inside the mantle. No yes, that' s right,
- 15:30I mean besides affecting as you mention, because we are also seeing that
- 15:35they do it where there is fauna, for example, and those animals,
- 15:39because that water is the one they are taking and you end up destroying fauna
- 15:45and flora also from where they are doing this kind of fracking practice, besides
- 15:50the risks of explosions, because if you' re taking gas and pressure,
- 15:56there' s really not much control and there' s this risk now all
- 16:04that, also that they take the waste where they throw it. No,
- 16:06the waste stays there on earth. That' s why there' s a
- 16:11lot of mention that leaves infertile land behind the use of fracking, and that
- 16:17' s why companies in the United States use it too much. But don
- 16:18' t think it' s so easy to frack in America. It can
- 16:23take from a year to two to be granted a fracking well because of the
- 16:27regulatory laws they have, because they already care for their ecosystem. Evidently,
- 16:30if you take care of your people. And even when these concessioned wells exploit
- 16:34it, there are environmentalist groups of citizens who demand or point out all the
- 16:41bad practices of these companies and put millions of demands on them. So fracking
- 16:45is not as profitable to do in the United States, unless there are high
- 16:49oil and gas prices as we have today. And that is why today they
- 16:55are turning to see the basin of villages here in Mexico, which are located
- 16:59in the north east still do not exploit it. Why, then, the
- 17:03northeastern part of the country we have just spoken that we have a water drought
- 17:06and it takes care of water and they want to give water for the tail
- 17:11occupy water for fracking and that' s where the Monterrey Six project arises.
- 17:14It' s an issue that supposedly comes to solve the drought here in Monterrey,
- 17:18but its main agenda is to use that water for fracking, that is,
- 17:22take it there, take it to the basin. Yes, let'
- 17:26s see and it' s a subject that here and I ask you what
- 17:30you prefer economics or humanism. I think that' s the dichotomy we'
- 17:34re running here, jobs against human and environmental care. If it is a
- 17:41difficult decision, because both have their positive side, but, like everything else,
- 17:45they also have that negative side. Bringing more Monterrey economy to the country
- 17:51gives employees more opportunities for a better quality of life. And I say better
- 17:56quality of life in quotation marks, because more companies mean more pollution. Note
- 18:03that there is a list of the twenty cities with the lowest air quality in
- 18:07Mexico and of those twenty six cities are in Nuevo León. We have Escobedo,
- 18:14third, Guadalupe with rooms, Santa Catarina in fifth, San Pedro in
- 18:18tenth, San Nicolás in XIII and Monterrey has the number fourteen. The only
- 18:27city near the urban area of Nuevo León that is not in that top twenty
- 18:30is Apodaca and the more companies open here the more people from other states arrive
- 18:37in search of opportunities and because that also translates to the continued construction of houses
- 18:42for this high demand for housing, destroy the few green areas that remain,
- 18:48and that is also less water for those who already live here. So I
- 18:53think that in a certain way we should find that balance as having and maintaining
- 19:00more green areas within the city and basically taking care of what we have left
- 19:06already to close this issue of climate change and the inefficiency of the Green Agenda.
- 19:11One more thing I like is to add no. I think we'
- 19:14ve already made a little bit clear about all this false speech that exists.
- 19:19So, in your opinion, here, the ideal would still be to use
- 19:27resources like oil, like coal and nuclear energy. Yes, that' s
- 19:33precisely what I wanted to comment on. I believe that hydrocarbons and the geopolitical
- 19:37model can continue to be used. We can say that we see today,
- 19:45it tells us that oil, coal and gas will continue to be used,
- 19:48especially because of high demand and population growth. In other words, there is
- 19:55no reliable and safe alternative to replace hydrocarbons that can be to meet the energy
- 20:00demand, for example, of a country as growing demographically as Mexico, as
- 20:07China and other emerging countries like Brazil. Then we have to see. I
- 20:11believe that on the subject of Mexico, to look after the interests of energy
- 20:15sovereignty, to see it as a matter of national security, because it is
- 20:19also here that I do not know if you remember that in two thousand twenty
- 20:23- one, when there was a great frost throughout the continent, American.
- 20:26We ran out of light in two states of the country, yes for about
- 20:30three or four days, of course some trees were taken out there that I
- 20:33had planted. As if we don' t remember well, that was mainly
- 20:41because the gas pipelines, we bought the gas from the United States, from
- 20:45Texas, they froze and stopped selling us. And we, because we are
- 20:48in this fallacy of transitioning renewable energies, did not have the way to solve
- 20:55that existing demand And in the end, because the citizens ended up paying.
- 21:00That problem is to be thought of because we depend a lot on the United
- 21:07States, not for everything, for water, for gas, for many things,
- 21:11and Mexico, being a country that is rich in all these things.
- 21:15I do not understand why governments have not invested in infrastructure for us to be
- 21:18able to generate our own energies. Or it' s too expensive. Yes,
- 21:22yes, it' s very expensive. But I believe that, above
- 21:25all, there is no political will. The politicians here have done business on
- 21:30the subject of hydrocarbons. They are doing it or they have already done it
- 21:33with the water issue, because during the Peña Nieto period it was when it
- 21:37was most granted. And now that we have lithium, we' re going
- 21:42to see how they handle it, we' re going to see what the
- 21:45policy is, because it' s going to be the same, they'
- 21:48re going to sell it to talk in probably so that we can exploit it,
- 21:56because nothing isn' t like, we' re still a third world
- 22:00country when we have all the potential to really make a Japan, a Germany.
- 22:02In that I fully agree. We have one to see how it is
- 22:06possible that a country that has three hundred years of history is subjugating a country
- 22:11that has civilizations of more than three thousand five hundred years. Yes, that
- 22:15we have inheritance not only from indigenous civilizations, but also from one of the
- 22:21greatest empires in history, as was the Spanish Empire, the empire where the
- 22:25sun never hid, that is, it is not possible that we are following
- 22:30this path. Mexico has to wake up and I think the best way to
- 22:34do this is to raise awareness of these issues. Of course I say,
- 22:41and that' s also why I invited you to this podcast and again,
- 22:45thank you for accepting the invitation, because I still feel the same way.
- 22:47Knowledge is power and if you are not aware that all this is happening,
- 22:52you are no longer a sheep. I feel and good and we move on
- 23:00to this last point that I have here on the agenda is about drug trafficking.
- 23:04Also Mexico, children, I think it is one of the countries with
- 23:10the most drug trafficking problem. We could say that drug trafficking is America'
- 23:15s perfect enemy. To a certain extent, it' s completely been the
- 23:21business you' ve maintained. I would venture to say that the economy of
- 23:23both countries in that regard has been laundered too much money through drug trafficking.
- 23:30And when statistics or data from our country' s main sources of income are
- 23:36shown, it is never mentioned in the main one that is the sale of
- 23:40drugs, the sale of drugs, the sale of arms. Not also do
- 23:47drug trafficking occupy all these weapons that the army suddenly doesn' t have and
- 23:52they already have them and are using them too, obviously, they arrive in
- 23:56illegal quotation marks in Mexico from the United States. I don' t know
- 24:00if it' s totally illegal. It is against the pure and hard side
- 24:03that I think everyone knows about the operation quickly and furiously and for those who
- 24:07do not know, because checking it was a huge arms smuggling where even the
- 24:11United States Government denied that they had carried out that act, even though we
- 24:17had here. I think that the bloodiest decade and the whole history of Mexico,
- 24:22the fight against nacota, that started out as a calderon. That was
- 24:29with Calderón. Well, the issue is beginning to grow with Vicente Fox,
- 24:34who begins to sell the squares to a cartel that emerges as a cell,
- 24:40we could say from the Gulf Cartel, which were the cetes, they began
- 24:45to sell the squares to this group, but they, because they were military,
- 24:49almost mercenaries, were not drug traffickers, but they were and came to
- 24:55change the whole work scheme that was already seen here in Mexico, but that
- 25:00had not culminated in such a high level of violence. The problem with all
- 25:06these weapons illegally entering Mexico is that in the end they end up in the
- 25:10wrong hands and, as you say, all this violence. And because the
- 25:17bloody decade of Mexico and it is still seen and it is very easy to
- 25:22acquire this type of weapons because, because they sell them to you as if
- 25:26they were gums in a store. Yeah, you don' t need permits
- 25:30anymore, or anything. And as one is registered. The narco also tries
- 25:33to erase the numbers of how we can seriously say them. If serial numbers,
- 25:37precisely but still, those souls can be traced. So why do we
- 25:44say that the United States is good for all this good stuff, because mainly
- 25:48because if you want to have control of a potential rival like Mexico, because
- 25:53to see they have sold us the idea that the bilateral relationship of Mexico and
- 25:56the United States is of support and cooperation, but it is not always subjugation
- 26:03in Mexico, exactly then, if you want to have control, you have
- 26:07to divide and the best way to divide a country is to generate internal conflicts.
- 26:11Today, if I remember correctly, it was like forty- two cartels
- 26:15in Mexico. Obviously, the main ones, because they are the ones we
- 26:19all know about Sinaloa, the CJNG, Gulf, etcetera. But more and
- 26:25more criminal groups are born in this country and they are not only dependent on
- 26:29the sale of drugs, but also, for example, a short time ago
- 26:33we were talking about the Burgos basin, the Zetas, the Gulf basins.
- 26:38All these criminal groups not only depend on the sale of narcotics, but also
- 26:42steal through the huachicoleo, gasoline and all kinds of hydrocarbons to sell them.
- 26:49Then it is a subject that not only affects health, but is also hitting
- 26:55us strongly in the pocket, because they are very, very interested topics before
- 27:00and very heavy in a certain way, because, because, in the end,
- 27:03as you say that suffering is the people, it is the Mexican that
- 27:10does not know. And because nothing else ends up being the result of the
- 27:14causes, not so to speak, the conflict of the government' s agendas
- 27:21that because they say they are fighting drug trafficking, but because I feel just
- 27:25like it' s a smokescreen, nothing more for people to believe that something
- 27:30is being done about it. And in the end, because they themselves give
- 27:33the permits, they let them do things that crime always goes unpunished. In
- 27:38the end, and because all this migration, also that there were Haitians,
- 27:45if not all Nicaraguans, there is not all the human business that is being
- 27:52taken there, because to get to the United States you have to have permission
- 27:56from the criminal groups to control the border and I don' t know what
- 28:00you think of. For example, Trump has wanted to label the cartels as
- 28:03terrorists. In Mexico we see them as armed civilians. Trump wants to qualify
- 28:07them as terrorism. How so, children, I do not agree with anything
- 28:14that the narco and these armed groups do, because it happens to affect civilians,
- 28:18people who have nothing to do with these issues of domains, of territories,
- 28:21but classify them as terrorists I do not think is the best option.
- 28:29I feel that gives the United States the lead to come and give us a
- 28:32little freedom. It' s very dense of that and also the weird thing
- 28:37is that Mexico is pointed out too much on the subject of posters, but
- 28:41there is never talk about who are the recipients of the drug, and who
- 28:44are the ones who move it, because we cross it. Cary demands,
- 28:48obviously, if there was no lawsuit, then, but who distributes it all
- 28:52to, who takes it to the confines of super remote cities like New York
- 28:56or so has to have their criminal groups, but they are not caring for
- 29:02their internal problems, they are blaming us. Yeah, well, it'
- 29:04s easier to always point fingers out. It' s not Mexico' s
- 29:10problem, and you see how they are. We' re not taking a
- 29:11little bit of freedom to the Middle East. They won' t want to
- 29:15try here to give us a little freedom. Not with drug trafficking, because
- 29:21it' s always been like that. I mean, I think that America
- 29:22' s currency, or rather I know that America' s currency is entrenched
- 29:26in what is oil. It has always been so and many of the wars
- 29:32that have taken place, as it really is a smokescreen, like the attacks
- 29:37of September 11. It is easier to sell to the people that we are
- 29:41going to go to war because they attacked us, than before, the Presidents
- 29:45even said no, our goal is oil, but then they began to change
- 29:49that, because this talk they had, that message they gave to the people.
- 29:55And now it' s easier that we' re going to war because
- 29:59they attacked us, and p o r sr being there you grab the oil
- 30:02and the resources all you gave him to the point? I think it'
- 30:06s far enough from the point? And I don' t like it if
- 30:08you want to label drug traffickers as terrorists, not because they don' t
- 30:15hurt, but because of the issue you' re talking about. Since it
- 30:17was classified as terrorism in the Middle East, they went to plunder all the
- 30:22resources and, for example, these cartels that I mention usually settle in areas
- 30:26where there are resources not only to plant or traffic drugs, but also to
- 30:33exploit hydrocarbons. There are cartels in Michoacán that control the avocado trade, that
- 30:38is, there are many other factors that, if you even control agriculture,
- 30:44they already control. Yes, that' s why there are the self-
- 30:48defenses in Michoacán because of the fact that they want to take away their fields.
- 30:52They' re getting them out now, and since there' s no
- 30:56government, it' s the same people who have to defend themselves who raise
- 30:59arms. Yeah, then, yeah. I believe that America' s goal
- 31:03of classifying these criminal groups as terrorists is not exactly to fight them, because
- 31:08if they wanted to fight them, they would do so from money. Its
- 31:11banks are the ones that wash money away from large amounts of drug trafficking and
- 31:15make it clean, but rather have a hidden agenda in trying to do the
- 31:21same as the Middle East, to fight these criminal groups and leave soldiers or
- 31:26bases in the strategic areas of our country' s resources. Yeah, well,
- 31:32that' s where I' m saying, apart from the old shoplifter,
- 31:34so go on now. Yes in a total way, it' s
- 31:38easier for them. Mexico is a country very rich in everything in everything,
- 31:42in water, in minerals, you have the jungles down there, in Yucatán,
- 31:48in the south and then up here or what is the economy of big
- 31:53companies all the North. But yes, I think America' s agenda is
- 31:59this relationship that you say we' ve been wanted to paint that mutual support,
- 32:01because it really hasn' t existed. It' s always been to
- 32:07see how to screw Mexico. We' re not like some kind of geopolitical
- 32:13prison with the United States. My brother, some other point you want to
- 32:17deal with. No, because I think that enough has already been said about
- 32:21a number of alarming issues here. The point is not to convey fear to
- 32:25people, but rather to make people aware of all the mistakes that are being
- 32:30made and that Mexico has the potential to succeed. Despite all these muddy things,
- 32:37as you mention it, we are very rich in all aspects, from
- 32:39culture to resources. So, nothing. I believe there is hope and we
- 32:45must believe in a change but above all, we must be part of it.
- 32:49I' ve always said so too that the world changes with your example,
- 32:52not your opinion. No, and many people, then, can say
- 32:54and say and this and the other. But if you don' t start
- 32:58with yourself, something as simple as it is good, you don' t
- 33:01have the trash on the floor, I mean, find a boat or keep
- 33:05it until you get home and throw it away. But I think it'
- 33:07s also very cultural people' s way of thinking. I' ve seen
- 33:13it for example, because here in Mexico they don' t care, they
- 33:15throw garbage and everything, and I don' t know what happens that nothing
- 33:20else crosses the border and they already live there and it' s very clean
- 33:23people who transform exactly and I don' t know why. I mean,
- 33:24why can' t there be that culture here all the flooding there is,
- 33:29because, because the ay drainage system we have, it' s not very
- 33:32efficient, let' s say, but a lot of garbage. That is,
- 33:36when the Santa Catarina River is filled, Pasas, since all the water
- 33:39was taken from the river, you see the trees full of garbage, bags,
- 33:44things that you say, because it is so polluted to the city.
- 33:47And that' s why everything is flooded here. You' ve never turned
- 33:52around the river, because I wanted no good. There, apart from throwing
- 33:54away garbage jets, appliances, appliances, refrigerators stoves to be found, but
- 34:02they have also found bodies in bags in this country. Actually, as you
- 34:08rightly say, we must begin an individual transformation in order to be able to
- 34:22transform collectively, for so must be my brother Nicholas, so thank you very
- 34:25much for having accepted the invitation to this podcast. If we deal with an
- 34:30issue, a little bit political. But I hope you liked it the same
- 34:35way, because if you want topics of this kind here and there, you
- 34:39can write me there on social networks, suggest us topics and we will gladly
- 34:44treat you. Thank you, my brother. Nice to meet you, brother,
- 34:47and then again, I greet you all. I hope you have been
- 34:52interested in the subject and continue to support Moses’ work. Thank you,
- 34:57my brother and you who listened to us today or today, because thank you
- 35:00for your time, for having been here for a few minutes of your day.
- 35:04I want to wish you that this week everything flows and you come closer
- 35:08to meeting your goals and goals, so be a hug until the next