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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and the NBA, Jazz hosting Grizzlies tonight, NBA Christmas Day slate, New ways to discourage tanking + mor... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for its list of
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  Speaker 2: the day, A list today. Here's oc with basketball Sabad
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  Speaker 2: Gordy Chiaysa on the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 1: At Christmas time.
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  Speaker 4: This song means Gordon gias is coming on. He's our
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  Speaker 4: NBA expert, He's a friend of the program. He's brought
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  Speaker 4: to you by our friends at Aladdin Industries, Gordigiers and
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  Speaker 4: welcome back forry, Sir.
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  Speaker 3: I am doing fine, Sean, thank you and thanks for introduction.
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  Speaker 3: As far as police have bet dot to all off France,
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  Speaker 3: including yourself and change peace and all the people at
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  Speaker 3: the end of building. Also all our fans around the
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  Speaker 3: state watching us and listeners all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I will like all that sentiment, Gordy. Jazz Grizzlies tonight
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  Speaker 4: at the Delta Center.
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  Speaker 1: What do you expect?
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  Speaker 3: I expect the Jazz to win and bounce back from
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  Speaker 3: last night. It's a tough game against the Denver Nuggets.
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  Speaker 3: The Grizzies are banged up, Sean, like all teams are.
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  Speaker 3: I get that, but these guys are extremely banged up.
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  Speaker 3: So they're eight guys out. I'm not gonna lift all
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  Speaker 3: of them, just the key guys. So the Grizzies are
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  Speaker 3: missing eight guys in the lineup, including John Moran and
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  Speaker 3: Zach Edy, and so they're both out and out playing.
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  Speaker 3: A guy named Tyde Jerome who they signed with the Cavaliers,
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  Speaker 3: who played very well for them last year, had not
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  Speaker 3: played a minute this year for them. So I expect
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  Speaker 3: the Jazz to They got back around probably two o'clock
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  Speaker 3: this morning. Also so did the Grizzies. They played last
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  Speaker 3: night at okay See where they lost. They lost by
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  Speaker 3: nineteen points, so I expect the Jazz to really play well.
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  Speaker 3: How do you play well, Sean? Is called the three
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  Speaker 3: point line the Jazz last night versus then. But you
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  Speaker 3: saw the game where the Jazz allowed twenty four made
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  Speaker 3: three point shots. So that tells us that the line
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  Speaker 3: of defense on the ball was getting beat all the
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  Speaker 3: time and that the Jazz are slow to rotate. So
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  Speaker 3: tonight's game should be the opposite, should be better defense
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  Speaker 3: on the ball. And also file out to the corners
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  Speaker 3: the challenge a three point shot.
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  Speaker 4: We've talked a lot about the role that three point
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  Speaker 4: shooting plays in NBA basketball now in basketball at every level. Now,
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  Speaker 4: are team is better at defending perimeter shots and better
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  Speaker 4: at defending the three point shot than they ever were?
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  Speaker 3: No? Sure, and unfortunately no. And the answer is because, well,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times the shooters defend themselves because guys
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  Speaker 3: are taking Elevis three point shots. So a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times it's deceiving you know where hey, and those defense
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  Speaker 3: meaning as a group, was really good. And the answer
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  Speaker 3: is it really wasn't just that the people taking shots
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  Speaker 3: because they not ready to mentally as shot makers and
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  Speaker 3: they fling them up. So the answer is absolutely no,
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  Speaker 3: But the better teams do. In other words, it all
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  Speaker 3: starts on ball containment. So you've got to be able
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  Speaker 3: to guard the ball and not get beat recklessly so
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  Speaker 3: easily off to dribble, and that compromise you your defense.
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  Speaker 3: So the Jets have to improve that. They struggle last
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  Speaker 3: year and right now, the Jets defense they allowed the
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  Speaker 3: most NBA three point shots made per game, so their
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  Speaker 3: rank number thirty, and they've got to try to correct that.
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  Speaker 4: Gordy, We're coming up on Christmas and the NBA kind
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  Speaker 4: of owns Christmas from a sporting standpoint, Let's talk about
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  Speaker 4: your favorite NBA Christmas story, the best game you've seen,
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  Speaker 4: maybe the best player performance, because if you read some
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  Speaker 4: of the articles you read with people say about it,
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  Speaker 4: it's like folks at the NBA are appreciative of the
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  Speaker 4: stage that you get on Christmas, but of course you're
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  Speaker 4: missing Christmas or your Christmas plans with the family or compromised.
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  Speaker 4: So sounds like there's a little bit of a love
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  Speaker 4: hate relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. Also, but TV loves it because think
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  Speaker 3: about it, it's the casual fan, so showing it's like
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl Sunday where even people don't really follow the NFL,
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  Speaker 3: which I know is hard to believe, but some people don't.
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  Speaker 3: Is that don't watch the game as almost like a
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  Speaker 3: as a spectator. And that's also the on Christmas Day
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  Speaker 3: where the NBA has five games and it's absolutely critical
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  Speaker 3: as far as them popping up as far as on
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  Speaker 3: the screen to generate besides revenue by the sponsorships, but
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  Speaker 3: also the casual fan and so it's a huge factor
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  Speaker 3: and also a player standpoint, it's really a great way
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  Speaker 3: to grow your individual brand and your platform, and that
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times with these guys, through showing, they
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  Speaker 3: break out new sneaker brands, so suddenly their signature Sneakscher.
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  Speaker 3: They'll wait until Christmas Day to show it on the air.
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  Speaker 3: And also a lot of times the teams they have
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  Speaker 3: new jerseys too, especially made jerseys for Christmas Day, so
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  Speaker 3: it's really happening. We call this the Santa Claus Day.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, as far as the games and my memory
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  Speaker 3: bank of the Jazz basketball showing is that the Jazz
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  Speaker 3: had played eight times on Christmas Day, both in New
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  Speaker 3: Orleans and also as a franchise and also the Jazz
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  Speaker 3: there's six and two of those games. The last time
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  Speaker 3: the Jazz played on Christmas Day was twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 3: where they beat the Dallas Mavericks at home. I remember
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  Speaker 3: when I was a coach for the Jazz is sixteen
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  Speaker 3: years that we played the Houston Rockets back in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: ninety seven. So the ninety seven ninety eight season, the
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  Speaker 3: Jazz lost to the second time in a row to
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  Speaker 3: the Bulls of the World Championship. Are teams able to
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  Speaker 3: beat a large line clite direction on those guys at home,
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  Speaker 3: and that was a tremendous win for the chess. So
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  Speaker 3: it does matter for the coaches and the players. It's
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  Speaker 3: a big thing. How wherever you are from your family,
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  Speaker 3: let's point about that. Often though, on Christmas Day, the
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  Speaker 3: teams fly the whole families on a charter to be
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  Speaker 3: with their be with their loved ones the day before Christmas,
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  Speaker 3: So that's important factor.
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  Speaker 4: Also, I'm reading about ESPN's got an interesting article about
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  Speaker 4: exactly this, about how the time of day that you
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  Speaker 4: play that game also kind of really affects because if
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  Speaker 4: you're the last game of the day, coaches and players
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  Speaker 4: don't like being the last game of the day because
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  Speaker 4: then you got to wait around all day. Games over
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  Speaker 4: late ish and your Christmas is over. If you play earlier,
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  Speaker 4: right then as soon as the game's over, you can
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  Speaker 4: schedule the festivities, you can do the dinners, you can
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  Speaker 4: do whatever else. But be in the last game of
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  Speaker 4: the day sounds like it would be a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of a pain.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. And but that said, that game will
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  Speaker 3: be in Denver, Minnesota at Denver, so that's the last
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  Speaker 3: day of the day for Christmas Day, and so these
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  Speaker 3: guys were went away a long time, so Nikolai Joki
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  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray would have jet played last night against Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Edwards Rudy Gobert. And that crew is Minnesota, so they
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  Speaker 3: did that purposely, and so it's the star power. So
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  Speaker 3: the first game is Cleveland at New York, so Domin Mitchell,
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  Speaker 3: New Yorker goes back to play in the garden. Then
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  Speaker 3: another word, heavyweight Dallas versus Golden State. We know about
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  Speaker 3: Steph Curry, all the crew, Jimmy Butler, but more importantly
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  Speaker 3: right now, Cooper Flagg. And then there's the Mother of
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  Speaker 3: War game Sewan san Antonio at Oko Ciny Thunder, so
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  Speaker 3: the Spurs versus the Thunder. So now we're talking all
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  Speaker 3: the young stars in the NBA, wem Beyamba, Stephen Castle,
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  Speaker 3: Cha Jose, Alexander Chet, Holmegrim, all the guys, Allen Williams.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the game that star pal. And then Houston
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  Speaker 3: Rockets versus the LA Lakers. Lebron Lebron as far as
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  Speaker 3: and Luca Dante's I think is not going to play.
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  Speaker 3: So it be Lebron almost by himself because Austin Reache
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  Speaker 3: is hurt also right now. So the Rockets with Kevin
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  Speaker 3: Durant and that got those guys. So it's a happening
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  Speaker 3: for every level. It's a coming out party for the
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  Speaker 3: for the NBA and for the players. Even though they're
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  Speaker 3: missing Christmas, they're going to try this. They're going to
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  Speaker 3: try to be with their families either before Christmas Eve
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  Speaker 3: or later on during the day.
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  Speaker 1: Corty big picture stuff here.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think of the recent proposals for to
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  Speaker 4: combat tanking in the NBA? The bullet points are you know,
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  Speaker 4: they could limit pick protections to either top four or
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  Speaker 4: fourteen and higher because the mid lottery projections being are protections,
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  Speaker 4: I should say, being kind of strange. A rule to
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  Speaker 4: potentially not allow a team to draft in the top
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  Speaker 4: four two years in a row, I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: you pull that off, and then locking lottery positions before
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  Speaker 4: the season is over to prevent you know, late season tanking.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of these?
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  Speaker 3: The first one I like, Well, number two and three
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  Speaker 3: I don't like. So number two you mentioned about as
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  Speaker 3: far as you can't pick in the top four two
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  Speaker 3: years in a row, and that's absolutely they'll never get
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  Speaker 3: through as far as the committee never as far as
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  Speaker 3: you know ACMTEE means right, the NBA ownership, the border governors,
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  Speaker 3: and they last what you mentioned for about by as
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  Speaker 3: of March first, that's when you lock in and they're
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  Speaker 3: trying to have the players not miss games, but they'll
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  Speaker 3: miss games anyway after March first. And also it's the
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  Speaker 3: integrity of doing right now. See the problem right now
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  Speaker 3: is I have no problem player missing game if he's injured,
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  Speaker 3: but if the guy's not injured. And that's what happened
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  Speaker 3: over the years, the last ten years, is that everybody
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  Speaker 3: was arresting people. And the NBA TV partner says, wait
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  Speaker 3: a second, we're not paying billions of dollars for the
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  Speaker 3: star players to rest with our production right now. The
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  Speaker 3: first one it affects the jets sewn also in the
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  Speaker 3: present tense, so i'll read it here, is that either
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  Speaker 3: being in the top four pick or top fourteen projection
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  Speaker 3: instead of the mid level. As far as mid level lottery,
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  Speaker 3: so example one through four you finish, it's okay. Well
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  Speaker 3: four through fourteen is that it's not okay, and that
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  Speaker 3: there's no there's no protection that we make a trade.
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  Speaker 3: So you make a trade a year earlier, it's protected
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  Speaker 3: four through fourteen. Now it's not anymore, and that would
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  Speaker 3: affect the Jets. The Jets protected this year Sean they
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  Speaker 3: have one through eight. Whether wherever they finish is that
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  Speaker 3: they're going to get their pick. The ninth pick goes
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  Speaker 3: if they finished nine, it goes to the okay seat thunder.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the one as text the Jazz, And again
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  Speaker 3: it's all based on teams losing on purpose, and that's
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  Speaker 3: where that's a factor that the NBA is trying to
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  Speaker 3: eliminate or definitely slow down.
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  Speaker 4: They also talked about trying to protect insider information more
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  Speaker 4: successfully because of you know, some of the gambling stuff
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  Speaker 4: that's happened with leaks being out there. Hey so and
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  Speaker 4: so is not going to play, Hey bet this on
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  Speaker 4: this because this.
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  Speaker 1: Guy's not available or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Is there a realistic way that you can be even
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  Speaker 4: more careful about team sensitive injury information leaking to the
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  Speaker 4: really I mean, I would say the public, but really
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  Speaker 4: it's the gamblers.
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  Speaker 3: The answer is yes, they'll do a more education about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's always been a factor. For example, you're a player
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  Speaker 3: or a coach and one of your best friends, your
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  Speaker 3: next door neighbor, you know, you see every single minute
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  Speaker 3: of the day. But you don't know these what kind
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  Speaker 3: of gamblings? He says, You feel innoctantly it's so and
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  Speaker 3: so plain tonight and you say he's out. He he
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  Speaker 3: didn't playing the walk through, He's not going to play.
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  Speaker 3: So suddenly he doesn't bet maybe perhaps, but one of
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  Speaker 3: his friends bet and he tells that person casually, so
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  Speaker 3: it's almost like a third party, and that person bets
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  Speaker 3: on the game. So the answer is even your best
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  Speaker 3: closest buds, you can't tell. You can't tell if so
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  Speaker 3: and so is injured not playing that night. So it's
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  Speaker 3: more education and absolutely more alertness and awareness that people
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  Speaker 3: are well intended. You just can't say it.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy. What's the list today?
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  Speaker 3: All right? List today? Sean's about Christmas, Santa Claus, your
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  Speaker 3: favorite holiday besides Valentine's Day. Here we go. What do
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  Speaker 3: you laughing at, Sean? I know you're you're budding romantic
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  Speaker 3: emphasize budding.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've got good information on that one, Gordy.
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  Speaker 4: But I do love Chris know.
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  Speaker 3: I can sense it. I can sense your your love,
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  Speaker 3: of your love, of your your life, and as fambly
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  Speaker 3: and also your love of James Peterson two. I'm at it.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the list today, Sean and the listener is the
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  Speaker 3: all time Korea scoring leaders for Christmas Day games all
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  Speaker 3: time Korea Santa Claus Games number ten all time walked
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  Speaker 3: down on me tur In thirty seven points did he
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  Speaker 3: played in Christmas Day nine times, Number nine Dolph Chaise
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  Speaker 3: tur In thirty nine points. He played on Christmas Day
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  Speaker 3: thirteen times, Number eight Shaquille O'Neill total points to seventy two.
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  Speaker 3: He played in thirteen Christmas Day games Number seven James
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  Speaker 3: Harden to seventy three points. He played in eleven Christmas
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  Speaker 3: Day games Number six Russell Westbrook with a total of
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and eighty eight tallies. He played in thirteen
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  Speaker 3: Christians Day games Number five all time Dwayne Wade. He
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  Speaker 3: scored three hundred and fourteen point thirteen Christmas Day games.
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  Speaker 3: Number four He's gonna play on Thursday. Kevin Durant fourth
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  Speaker 3: all time, three hundred and forty two career points on
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  Speaker 3: Santa Claus Day twelve Christmas Games Number three all time,
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  Speaker 3: Oscar Robinson three hundred and seventy seven points in twelve
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Day games for an average up thirty one point
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  Speaker 3: four points per game. Number two all time greatest ever
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Day scorer Kobe Bryant three hundred and ninety five points.
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  Speaker 3: He played in sixteen Christmas Day games he averaged twenty
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  Speaker 3: four points six points per game. And the number one
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  Speaker 3: player of all time to play ever on Christmas Day,
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  Speaker 3: this will be his twentieth appearance when he plays for
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  Speaker 3: the La Lake on Thursday, is Lebron James. Lebron has
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  Speaker 3: scored five hundred and seven Christmas Day points. He's played
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  Speaker 3: in nineteen times already He's averaged twenty five point one
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  Speaker 3: points per game. His record so in nineteen times he
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  Speaker 3: did it be twenty on a Thursday. His record as
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  Speaker 3: far as winning eleven wins, eight losses. Thus that's my
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Day list of the year. But also add to that,
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  Speaker 3: the greatest ever points single game by a player on
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Day was Bernard King. He scored sixty points on
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  Speaker 3: Chrismas Day versus Arch Level the Nets back in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: eighty four. And by the way, he's scored sixty and
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Day and his team did lose.
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  Speaker 1: Though Lebron James has played how many Christmas Days in.
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  Speaker 3: A row nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane.
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  Speaker 4: He's got kids who are never had like a Christmas
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  Speaker 4: Day without dad working on Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Day right, very much. And also so they did to
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  Speaker 3: do a story right now about the Bronnie James growing
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  Speaker 3: up with his dad say on Christmas. And also Steph
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  Speaker 3: Curry also talking about his dad Del Curry when he
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  Speaker 3: went Christmas when he was growing up, he was playing
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  Speaker 3: also and so it's interesting how both both as a
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  Speaker 3: player talking about their dad's playing on Christmas. You know
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL is that it's Thanksgiving Day with the
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  Speaker 3: NFL rules on Thanksgiving Day. So it's all part of television.
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  Speaker 3: This is a reality. Everybody turns the TV set on,
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  Speaker 3: maybe not all day long, but they're watching games in between,
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  Speaker 3: in between eating and talking about what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: Are you you prefer a white Christmas, Cordy or you
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  Speaker 4: okay with no snow on Christmas Day?
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  Speaker 3: No white Christmas? Absolutely league. You know, I'm not a scientist,
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  Speaker 3: but right now it's outside, what it's about fifty eighth
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  Speaker 3: degrees outside, it's crazy. Yeah, white Christmas, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: but Christmas also the jazz historically they don't do recently,
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  Speaker 3: but historically we used to always play on a pre
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  Speaker 3: pre Christmas East Coast road trip, so re memory bank
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  Speaker 3: of Christmas. Sean was also getting at three o'clock in
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  Speaker 3: the morning from Toronto or Cleveland, either on December twenty
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  Speaker 3: third or the twenty fourth, after being a five or
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  Speaker 3: six or seven game road trip. And that was done
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  Speaker 3: purposely by Frank Layton when he was general manager. He
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  Speaker 3: requested the NBA schedule makers that the Jazz always wanted
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  Speaker 3: to play pre Christmas away so that they would be
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  Speaker 3: home on Christmas Day not playing. So all the players
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  Speaker 3: that lived in the East Coast, say in Atlanta, Georgia
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  Speaker 3: or New York, after the last game, whether it was
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland or Toronto or Boston, they would go literally the
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  Speaker 3: midnight flight to get home for a day and a
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  Speaker 3: half and then fly back. And we always we always
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  Speaker 3: practice at five o'clock on December twenty sixth, after the
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  Speaker 3: day after Christmas, and play you most times on the
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  Speaker 3: twenty seventh. So I was smart by Frank Laydon and
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  Speaker 3: we and you generally speaking, Sean, the Jazz played great
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  Speaker 3: on that road trip. It was six games, maybe five
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  Speaker 3: to one, it was seven games, maybe five to two,
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  Speaker 3: as well as winning.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy, have a merry Christmas, appreciate.
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  Speaker 4: Your time as always, thank you, peace out, stay well,
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  Speaker 4: Little Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Peace Out from Gordy,