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- 0:26Speaker 1: The man's.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Man a names Mann don't know, Sam, a man's.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Name Sand the Master as the fathers ad.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Alright here we so welcome to the aired out podcast
- 2:02Speaker 1: few after nine nine oh five. To be exact, was
- 2:06Speaker 1: thinking briefly about riding the motorcycle in this morning, and
- 2:12Speaker 1: then I was just I don't know. I was having
- 2:15Speaker 1: some second guesses on that this morning, little Chili. I
- 2:20Speaker 1: think it was like thirty eight at my house. It's
- 2:22Speaker 1: got to be in the forties before I get in
- 2:24Speaker 1: the bike. I'm getting older. Deb Phillips with us this
- 2:28Speaker 1: morning from the world. Deb, good morning, Good morning JD.
- 2:32Speaker 1: How the heck are you top of the morning to you?
- 2:35Speaker 4: Good? Little cooler today than yesterday, Yeah.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Exactly, Yeah, a big, big difference and maybe even some
- 2:42Speaker 1: some thunderstorms pushing back in this afternoon. But Deb, good morning.
- 2:46Speaker 1: What can we expect from the world which comes out today?
- 2:51Speaker 1: Of course?
- 2:52Speaker 4: Oh well, we have the advertiser of the week, the
- 2:55Speaker 4: Business of the week, and this week it is more
- 2:58Speaker 4: puliar agway and with you know, planting season getting started,
- 3:04Speaker 4: that's a great place to go visit. Also, Mother's Day
- 3:08Speaker 4: is May eleventh, and we have a lot of local
- 3:12Speaker 4: advertisers with unique gifts for your mom. Plus green Up
- 3:18Speaker 4: is this weekend and Mayfest and Montpillier and then we
- 3:22Speaker 4: don't want you to miss the grocery specials at Pump
- 3:25Speaker 4: and Pantry and Williamstown and Granite City Market in downtown Bear.
- 3:29Speaker 1: I love it. If someone wants to advertise with the world,
- 3:33Speaker 1: what they what do they do? How complicated?
- 3:35Speaker 5: Is it not complicated at all? Just give us a
- 3:38Speaker 5: call and we'll be there.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Awesome. Uh and so what's the I want to ask you,
- 3:45Speaker 1: because I'm still getting asked so much about this. When
- 3:48Speaker 1: can folks start expecting the World in in their mailboxes?
- 3:53Speaker 6: Well?
- 3:54Speaker 5: Right now, that's in the households in five six oh two.
- 3:59Speaker 5: We are hoping in the next month to have it
- 4:03Speaker 5: in five six four one.
- 4:05Speaker 6: God.
- 4:06Speaker 4: So yeah, we're just still working on that.
- 4:10Speaker 7: And hope to have that soon.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Wonderful. Looking forward to to flipping through the pages today.
- 4:17Speaker 1: I know Chris will be by here at some point
- 4:19Speaker 1: soon with my World paper and I always look forward
- 4:22Speaker 1: to it. Depp, thank you so much, Thank you JD.
- 4:25Speaker 4: You have a good day.
- 4:26Speaker 1: You got it will be in touch new week, a
- 4:29Speaker 1: new world. Be on the lookout for it today. Yeah,
- 4:33Speaker 1: partly cloudy is the word today. Starting out just beautiful
- 4:37Speaker 1: this morning, sun is shining. We're looking at fifty five
- 4:40Speaker 1: degrees later today. It's a big change up from yesterday.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Tonight partly cloudy, get around thirty two. I know, still listen.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I hope that my grass seed's going to grow with
- 4:52Speaker 1: temperatures like this Tomorrow, sun and clouds and sixty seven
- 4:57Speaker 1: Friday rebounding just a bit, thunderstorms, still some clouds, some
- 5:03Speaker 1: sun and around seventy degrees, and then the weekend clouds, sun,
- 5:10Speaker 1: rain and a little cooler either side of sixty for
- 5:14Speaker 1: both Saturday and Sunday. I want to thank you so
- 5:20Speaker 1: much for tuning in, for joining us this morning. We
- 5:24Speaker 1: have a lot to unpack, a lot to get to.
- 5:27Speaker 1: As you may have seen in the press release that
- 5:31Speaker 1: we had just put out, we have partnered up with
- 5:37Speaker 1: Sweethearts and Heroes and this was kind of something that
- 5:43Speaker 1: has been in the making here for maybe a couple
- 5:47Speaker 1: of weeks is my guess, but I was you know,
- 5:52Speaker 1: Tom Murphy is with us with Louden this morning. Loud
- 5:56Speaker 1: and Granger from Sweethearts and Heroes and Tom uh I.
- 6:03Speaker 1: It was really simple. I mean I'm listen. You and
- 6:06Speaker 1: I both are creatures that really shift into gear with
- 6:16Speaker 1: our brain capacity while we're driving. And that's what happened
- 6:20Speaker 1: to me. I was driving down the road and I'm like,
- 6:23Speaker 1: why are these guys not on the air with me
- 6:25Speaker 1: once a week? It's got to happen. Is that a
- 6:30Speaker 1: question that? Well, no, that's a comment.
- 6:32Speaker 6: Well hold on, first of all, slow down there, speedy.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Hey, I've only had half a cup.
- 6:38Speaker 6: I know, but what's this motorcycle stuff? I got a motorcycle, dude,
- 6:42Speaker 6: that's dangerous? What dangerous? He's a Harley driver, loud, He's
- 6:47Speaker 6: a Harley driver Triumph, Triumph, no disrespect to the to
- 6:51Speaker 6: the Harley stile. Because I talked him out of it.
- 6:55Speaker 6: I said, it's dangerous.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Really, you're you're on you're on that. Yeah, are you
- 7:01Speaker 1: going to try to get me to un motorcycle?
- 7:04Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, well, because you know that beautiful daughter
- 7:07Speaker 6: of yours, I'll.
- 7:08Speaker 1: See here we go. He's going for the juggular alrighty
- 7:11Speaker 1: right now, right there? Yeah, he could have built up
- 7:16Speaker 1: to me. No, no, no, no, yeah, I go right
- 7:18Speaker 1: for the daughter and the wife. And well, here's the
- 7:21Speaker 1: scary thing. Serious now, when I hit the midlife crisis,
- 7:27Speaker 1: which Loudon doesn't know about yet because you're so young.
- 7:33Speaker 1: But when I hit the midlife crisis, I was I
- 7:36Speaker 1: don't know, the late thirties, early forties, maybe mid forties
- 7:41Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it, I was like, gotta
- 7:44Speaker 1: get a motorcycle. And it started out with the dirt bike,
- 7:47Speaker 1: and then it went to the road bike. And there
- 7:50Speaker 1: is just something about that's can I say the S
- 7:54Speaker 1: word speed? If there's something about it? Man, Tom, it's listen.
- 7:59Speaker 1: You're a man of adrenaline. You understand You've got to
- 8:02Speaker 1: have you ever been on a motorcycle?
- 8:04Speaker 5: Oh?
- 8:04Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, when I was on the d I've driven
- 8:08Speaker 6: a motorcycle.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Okay.
- 8:11Speaker 6: Oh I didn't have one, all right, and I couldn't
- 8:14Speaker 6: afford that JD. Right, I don't have the big bucks
- 8:17Speaker 6: like you. No, No, it's just you know, it's not
- 8:20Speaker 6: the motorcycle. It's the other people out there that I
- 8:23Speaker 6: worry about.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Are you going to back me up here?
- 8:26Speaker 6: A loud he's tried for.
- 8:28Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I'm a fan of motorcycle. I went out
- 8:31Speaker 7: to the dentist one when I turned eighteen, I went
- 8:32Speaker 7: to the dentist and I came back with my first
- 8:34Speaker 7: motorcycle and I just found something on Craigslist and picked
- 8:38Speaker 7: it up, rode home, and I fell in love with
- 8:40Speaker 7: it for sure. Uh but uh but and yeah, yeah,
- 8:45Speaker 7: so I went for the speed at first. But the
- 8:46Speaker 7: speed's scary after a while. Man, the speed gets scary.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Like, well, there's that one moment where you're coming into
- 8:54Speaker 1: it and you're you're yeah, I'm not sure if I
- 8:58Speaker 1: can get out of this hole. Yeah, And usually we
- 9:01Speaker 1: all need that, we all need that. And then usually
- 9:06Speaker 1: usually that does the trick.
- 9:10Speaker 6: All let's move on stuff.
- 9:14Speaker 1: We'll get you out of it. We'll get you You're
- 9:15Speaker 1: gonna work on it, buddy. I'm so glad to see you,
- 9:18Speaker 1: and I'm so glad to meet Loudon. I've heard so
- 9:21Speaker 1: much about this guy. I've heard so much about Leon,
- 9:26Speaker 1: who I haven't yet met. And I'm meeting your daughter today,
- 9:30Speaker 1: Abby for the first time. I am so blessed an
- 9:34Speaker 1: honor to be included in your family. You guys have
- 9:39Speaker 1: created an empire.
- 9:44Speaker 6: Empire. Well, it's been it's been an interesting journey. You know,
- 9:48Speaker 6: when you talk about scale, we estimate we've probably been
- 9:53Speaker 6: in front of about two million students, parents, teachers, educators, administrators,
- 10:00Speaker 6: community members. It's been a sixteen year ride.
- 10:03Speaker 1: I was gonna say sixteen. I was going to ask
- 10:05Speaker 1: you how many years it's been that. That's not that
- 10:08Speaker 1: long when you're talking about numbers like that. Yeah, you
- 10:10Speaker 1: guys are not sitting around doing you know, one event
- 10:17Speaker 1: a week.
- 10:19Speaker 6: No, usually it's every single day. I think I think
- 10:22Speaker 6: one year we topped out at one hundred and twenty
- 10:25Speaker 6: schools in the school year. And that's not to mention
- 10:28Speaker 6: the summer work that we do. But it's been a
- 10:31Speaker 6: roller coaster. Let me tell you.
- 10:35Speaker 1: What was the And I know that I've had you
- 10:38Speaker 1: and Rick on before. By the way, my daughter Lily
- 10:42Speaker 1: said to me this morning. I said to her, you
- 10:44Speaker 1: know who I've got on the air this morning, right,
- 10:46Speaker 1: And she's like, oh yeah, And I said who and
- 10:49Speaker 1: she said Rick?
- 10:51Speaker 6: Oh, oh gosh.
- 10:53Speaker 1: And I said and Tom And she's like, who's Tom
- 10:59Speaker 1: Ah And I said the Free Hugs guy, Oh, yes,
- 11:03Speaker 1: oh that guy.
- 11:04Speaker 6: He was the wrestler right. Anyway, I hope Rick isn't listening.
- 11:13Speaker 6: I hope we were. I was just looking at my phone.
- 11:16Speaker 6: Don't think I was addicted, but I am like everyone
- 11:19Speaker 6: and I was trying to make sure this gets streamed
- 11:21Speaker 6: to our platform as well, because I think some of
- 11:26Speaker 6: the stuff we're going to talk about here today is
- 11:28Speaker 6: really really important. But just going back to the whole
- 11:33Speaker 6: Rick thing, it's an inside joke with Rick and I.
- 11:38Speaker 6: It's more of a competition because when I can say
- 11:42Speaker 6: it before him, Yes, after assemblies at the elementary level,
- 11:47Speaker 6: we say who's better? Was I better than Rick? And
- 11:51Speaker 6: ninety nine point nine percent of kids no, Rick. But
- 11:55Speaker 6: the interesting thing is this, when they first meet Rick
- 11:58Speaker 6: at the elementary level, they're scared of him. And after
- 12:02Speaker 6: he does his bit and they hear his voice and
- 12:06Speaker 6: you know, I think his favorite compliment over the years,
- 12:09Speaker 6: and man, we've heard everything. They Actually, we were at
- 12:11Speaker 6: school yesterday. The principal came out and she's like, she's like, yeah,
- 12:15Speaker 6: we had to reprimand one little kindergartener because it's something
- 12:18Speaker 6: they said to Rick. But we've heard everything. Here's a
- 12:21Speaker 6: guy sixty percent of his body was burned away, no ears,
- 12:25Speaker 6: no nose, one leg, hands are melted together. And you're
- 12:29Speaker 6: a kindergartener, sure do you say? Yeah? And the first
- 12:32Speaker 6: time it happened we were outside. This little kid walks
- 12:35Speaker 6: up to him and he goes, you look like Freddy Krueger.
- 12:39Speaker 6: And Rick looks at me and he goes, how do
- 12:42Speaker 6: you know who Freddy Krueger is?
- 12:43Speaker 1: Kid?
- 12:43Speaker 6: Right?
- 12:44Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah?
- 12:45Speaker 6: But they say the darnedest thing and the greatest compliment
- 12:48Speaker 6: he ever got. It'll just it warms your heart. A
- 12:52Speaker 6: little kid looked at him after the assembly. He goes,
- 12:56Speaker 6: you're just a man. Oh, and Rick says that was
- 12:59Speaker 6: the best compliment he ever got. Wow, because he looks
- 13:02Speaker 6: like the monster that's supposed to live under your bed.
- 13:05Speaker 1: By the way, Rick is tuned in this morning has already.
- 13:10Speaker 1: He says, if this is an empire, is Tom Darth
- 13:13Speaker 1: Vader or charr Well.
- 13:16Speaker 6: Now let me tell you that since he's listen, I
- 13:18Speaker 6: gotta get this. I gotta get this. So man's there's
- 13:25Speaker 6: a team Rick here. I think you should block him?
- 13:29Speaker 6: Block him?
- 13:29Speaker 1: Should I block him?
- 13:30Speaker 6: Right?
- 13:30Speaker 2: Ban him?
- 13:31Speaker 1: You ban him?
- 13:31Speaker 6: But I gotta tell you this. I gotta tell you this.
- 13:34Speaker 6: I wish you could do something. I throw some b
- 13:36Speaker 6: roll in here. So his wife, Amy is you know,
- 13:40Speaker 6: an amazing human being. They met after his injury. Yeah,
- 13:45Speaker 6: we did talk. You shared this story on there unbelieved,
- 13:48Speaker 6: but I'm gonna tell you a better one. So anyway,
- 13:52Speaker 6: his wife Amy, I think she likes me better than
- 13:55Speaker 6: Rick probably you know she likes to push rix buttons. Yeah. Anyway,
- 13:59Speaker 6: So everybody as a as a grandparent, there's a couple
- 14:04Speaker 6: of ways you get your grandparent name. Right. You can
- 14:07Speaker 6: just go with the standard and just I'm gonna be
- 14:09Speaker 6: grandpa or grandma. Sometimes it's a Rick Rick. He had
- 14:15Speaker 6: a Jaji and you know it's Polish, I believe, and
- 14:19Speaker 6: so sometimes you go with the cultural grandparent name. But
- 14:23Speaker 6: the greatest names are when the kid named you. Yes, right,
- 14:27Speaker 6: like when the kid names you, and that's a whole
- 14:30Speaker 6: nother thing. But anyway, so I will be preparing for
- 14:33Speaker 6: my name and all my buddies that have kids now
- 14:36Speaker 6: that my kids are older, when they introduce me, I
- 14:41Speaker 6: actually slip one by the goalie, and I've named myself
- 14:46Speaker 6: King Tom King Tom King Tom so and and listen,
- 14:51Speaker 6: there's no narcissism when it's a kindergartener or a first grader. Okay,
- 14:55Speaker 6: if you do it with adults, that's a problem. But anyway,
- 14:59Speaker 6: so Grace Rick got Grace when she was ten days old,
- 15:03Speaker 6: eleven days old, unbelievable story and Grace is five today
- 15:10Speaker 6: and it's it's uh, probably the outside of Amy. It's
- 15:14Speaker 6: probably the greatest joy of his life. It is un
- 15:17Speaker 6: I got goosebumps just thinking about the stories over the
- 15:21Speaker 6: last five years. But she only knows me as King
- 15:25Speaker 6: Tom Tom. Really so yeah, so it's not really an emperor,
- 15:30Speaker 6: it's more of a King Tom.
- 15:32Speaker 1: I understand. Man, Please introduce this guy next to you.
- 15:38Speaker 1: I want to hear from Louden and I want to
- 15:41Speaker 1: know how we got the name Louden.
- 15:45Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'll introduce him.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Is that from Louden written? Speedway racing family?
- 15:52Speaker 7: NASCAR family?
- 15:55Speaker 1: Are we joking here? Really?
- 15:58Speaker 6: The left hand turned guy?
- 15:59Speaker 7: Tell me hang out handed and left handed turns?
- 16:02Speaker 6: Yeah, he's left handed.
- 16:03Speaker 1: You were born this way?
- 16:05Speaker 6: I was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:07Speaker 7: My parents were huge NASCAR race fans, and I went
- 16:11Speaker 7: to two ever since I was ever since I was born.
- 16:13Speaker 7: I was actually in the New Hampshire International Speedway. They're
- 16:17Speaker 7: kind of like track newspaper with my name and everything
- 16:20Speaker 7: kind of being yeah yeah, and to two races a
- 16:23Speaker 7: year basically for like my whole life going over there
- 16:26Speaker 7: at least, and then we'd go to obviously like Charlotte,
- 16:28Speaker 7: we go to Daytona and stuff.
- 16:31Speaker 6: In September every September. I know, I know this family show,
- 16:35Speaker 6: but you should probably do the math. Yeah.
- 16:40Speaker 7: Now we've done the math my whole life because as
- 16:42Speaker 7: everyone goes there for I was born on Christmas, so
- 16:45Speaker 7: there's no race in February, so that's kind of I know.
- 16:48Speaker 7: That's why I'm down to kind of share a little
- 16:51Speaker 7: bit more.
- 16:51Speaker 1: So you're going through some withdrawal during during the winter, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 16:55Speaker 1: so you're still obviously very much still a huge No.
- 16:59Speaker 7: I don't watch much NASCAR anymore. I don't I don't
- 17:01Speaker 7: actually as much anymore. But we want to go see
- 17:04Speaker 7: a NASCAR race. Abby's never been to a NASCAR race,
- 17:06Speaker 7: so we'd love to go there. And plus we have
- 17:08Speaker 7: a you on a NASCAR team for a while, we're
- 17:12Speaker 7: not NASCAR.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Both on the road road.
- 17:15Speaker 6: Yeah, I got I got one of the hoods in
- 17:17Speaker 6: my gym from the crash. The guy gave me the hood.
- 17:21Speaker 7: Did you go to that race?
- 17:22Speaker 6: Can we get off the motor sports stuff?
- 17:24Speaker 1: Let's storing let's dive into too. Uh Rick is saying
- 17:30Speaker 1: that's extra narcissism.
- 17:34Speaker 6: I could see this we gotta have this. This really weird.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, We're having fun though, yeah, and
- 17:41Speaker 1: we you know, I was thinking about you guys when
- 17:43Speaker 1: I woke up this morning, and I'm like, these are
- 17:45Speaker 1: this is a team of guys who are literally and
- 17:49Speaker 1: I kind of said this to you, alluded to this
- 17:51Speaker 1: a little bit last time. I had John there, that
- 17:53Speaker 1: that is literally attempting to chip away at change in
- 18:00Speaker 1: the world for the better. And you're you're going, you're
- 18:05Speaker 1: going for the youth, which is the growth. And man,
- 18:09Speaker 1: it's and I also said this last time, and I'll
- 18:13Speaker 1: say it again. I Am going to sound many times
- 18:16Speaker 1: on the air on Wednesdays like an old man because
- 18:18Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the old days when I
- 18:22Speaker 1: was a kid and how different the war, the world
- 18:24Speaker 1: was different, how school was different, how the teachers were
- 18:31Speaker 1: you know, It's just it was just so much simpler,
- 18:35Speaker 1: at least it seemed that way. Look at the headlines
- 18:39Speaker 1: in the in the Yeah, turn your phone on in
- 18:41Speaker 1: the morning. It's just cram packed with bad news and
- 18:46Speaker 1: just stuff. And the kids are carrying this to to school.
- 18:53Speaker 1: They're walking around with the weight of the world let alone,
- 18:58Speaker 1: just you know, maybe what's going on in their families
- 19:03Speaker 1: and the dynamics in their families. They're carrying a lot
- 19:06Speaker 1: of weight. Man, you know what I was carrying around
- 19:08Speaker 1: when I was in third fourth grade? What I was
- 19:10Speaker 1: gonna do afterwards? Who's I was going to be riding
- 19:13Speaker 1: my bicycle around the neighborhood with who, climbing trees, digging holes,
- 19:18Speaker 1: playing with my g I Joe. That's all I was
- 19:20Speaker 1: worried about, you know. And now it's like, man, it's
- 19:24Speaker 1: like kids are worried about you know, how they're gonna
- 19:28Speaker 1: if they're gonna get food, and you know who's who's
- 19:30Speaker 1: bullying them on social media? And damn, it's a heavy,
- 19:35Speaker 1: heavy time. And you guys are you guys? And I
- 19:39Speaker 1: said this when Rick was here. You know, I envision
- 19:42Speaker 1: you guys on a river, paddling upstream. But you're you're
- 19:50Speaker 1: hitting some some some jetties and making some real progress.
- 19:55Speaker 1: It's really impressive.
- 19:57Speaker 7: It's interesting actually, because like where I'm coming from.
- 20:01Speaker 6: I was born in.
- 20:01Speaker 7: Nineteen ninety five, so I had like a touch of
- 20:05Speaker 7: what you just were kind of talking about. Were kind
- 20:06Speaker 7: of growing up playing. I mean, I'm only child, so
- 20:09Speaker 7: and I lived my closest neighbors a mile away, essentially
- 20:12Speaker 7: my closest friends. So we'd play a little bit. But
- 20:15Speaker 7: I was also kind of into the social media realm too,
- 20:18Speaker 7: like Facebook and stuff like that, MySpace, Facebook, Aol, Instant Messenger.
- 20:24Speaker 7: I was fifth grade kind of doing that, so I
- 20:26Speaker 7: was also kind of had one foot in that realm too.
- 20:28Speaker 7: But so when you're sharing kind of your youth, part
- 20:33Speaker 7: of me is curious about that. But I've noticed even
- 20:36Speaker 7: more kids nowadays, the more students that we talked to,
- 20:39Speaker 7: when I'm interviewing them talking to them, they are extremely
- 20:42Speaker 7: curious to find out what that was like because that's
- 20:45Speaker 7: foreign to them, Whereas with me, I kind of have
- 20:48Speaker 7: a touch a touch of it, you know, I can
- 20:51Speaker 7: kind of recall a little bit, but it's just interesting.
- 20:53Speaker 7: So they they they really do want to know. And
- 20:56Speaker 7: we had an opportunity last September where we did the
- 21:00Speaker 7: summit and we removed all Instagram or all cell phones
- 21:04Speaker 7: from them, and they really they really had a great
- 21:07Speaker 7: time with that. They love that because that was like
- 21:10Speaker 7: a mandatory, if you want to participate in this, you're
- 21:13Speaker 7: gonna leave that baggage at the door, because it is
- 21:15Speaker 7: baggage like you're saying, they're lugging it around and stuff,
- 21:19Speaker 7: and they're so curious about who's liking their stuff, who's
- 21:22Speaker 7: seen their stories, who's scene. It's a currency, you know,
- 21:26Speaker 7: and it's heavy on them for sure, because that's their
- 21:28Speaker 7: worth and their hallways and they and they were extremely
- 21:32Speaker 7: stoked to just not have to almost kind of keep
- 21:35Speaker 7: up with the Jones in the cyber world for that
- 21:37Speaker 7: event we did, and it was really it was actually
- 21:40Speaker 7: kind of neat to see.
- 21:41Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, we'll talk number one, let's let's
- 21:46Speaker 6: let me take one little step back. And I have
- 21:48Speaker 6: so many comments on what loud And just said, and
- 21:50Speaker 6: it's a deep dive and we could spend hours and
- 21:55Speaker 6: days talking about this stuff. But number one, JD, thanks
- 21:58Speaker 6: for letting us be here. I know that we put
- 22:01Speaker 6: some stuff out kind of like in a press release,
- 22:04Speaker 6: but the goal is to bring sweethearts and heroes on
- 22:07Speaker 6: every Wednesday a member of our team. I hope eventually
- 22:12Speaker 6: a principle or two, maybe even a parent can get on.
- 22:17Speaker 6: And just as importantly, and I think you need to
- 22:20Speaker 6: know this because you're here in Vermont, we have a
- 22:23Speaker 6: group of dealers, Chevy dealers from northern New York right
- 22:26Speaker 6: through New Hampshire, and Man, I could not be more
- 22:31Speaker 6: proud of this group of dealers. You know, it's easy
- 22:38Speaker 6: to talk about what needs to change in this world,
- 22:41Speaker 6: you know the challenges that are going on in this world.
- 22:43Speaker 6: It's really easy for everyone to grab their phone to
- 22:46Speaker 6: be this keyboard warrior and talk about these issues. But
- 22:51Speaker 6: these dealers every year for the last six or seven years,
- 22:56Speaker 6: have put a tremendous amount of resources, in particular money
- 23:00Speaker 6: into getting us into these schools because they've seen the
- 23:04Speaker 6: impact that this work has had. Now we've gone from
- 23:07Speaker 6: Houston to Hawaii to Montreal, and I don't think there's
- 23:11Speaker 6: been another group that has done what these dealers have done.
- 23:14Speaker 6: So I'm gonna really push you to make sure because
- 23:18Speaker 6: this is your home state and these dealers are doing
- 23:21Speaker 6: There's only about eighty six thousand students in the state
- 23:24Speaker 6: of Vermont. We can get to every single one of
- 23:27Speaker 6: them because of these dealers, and it's just a beautiful thing.
- 23:30Speaker 6: I was in school yesterday that was sponsored by Benson,
- 23:33Speaker 6: and Man, I just had a couple of moments and
- 23:36Speaker 6: circle with these kids and I'll kind of land on
- 23:38Speaker 6: this because I'm sure You've got a ton of thoughts,
- 23:42Speaker 6: and I do want to go back to kind of
- 23:44Speaker 6: the beginning here, not really the origin of sweethearts and heroes.
- 23:49Speaker 6: But I think that when we do these, the people
- 23:53Speaker 6: that are going to listen and that are going to
- 23:55Speaker 6: ask other people to listen, it's because they're going to
- 23:57Speaker 6: get some value. I'm a story to I love telling stories.
- 24:01Speaker 6: I could sit here for hours and tell stories because
- 24:05Speaker 6: I got thousands of them. But I think the goal
- 24:09Speaker 6: here is to and correct me if you want to
- 24:12Speaker 6: steer it differently, because this is your show, not mine,
- 24:15Speaker 6: King Tom. But no, seriously, man, I really want to
- 24:20Speaker 6: give any listeners today or anyone in the wants to
- 24:23Speaker 6: listen to this later, some real value that's going to
- 24:26Speaker 6: help them, especially as a parent in this brave new
- 24:29Speaker 6: world as Huxley would have called it, that we're involved
- 24:32Speaker 6: in here because we can hit every student in the
- 24:34Speaker 6: state of Vermont and we can help them because it's
- 24:37Speaker 6: never been harder to be a young person than in
- 24:40Speaker 6: the world today.
- 24:41Speaker 1: Never been harder.
- 24:42Speaker 6: There's nobody listening that would say, oh, man, I wish
- 24:46Speaker 6: I could be a kid today, like not me, And
- 24:49Speaker 6: just kind of wrap up what Louden was saying, you know,
- 24:52Speaker 6: I do this crazy circle stuff in seven or eight
- 24:54Speaker 6: years now, and it's all I ever want to talk
- 24:57Speaker 6: about is being in circle with young people. And I
- 25:01Speaker 6: can't count the number of young people. I got some
- 25:04Speaker 6: famous questions, and one of my famous ones is where
- 25:07Speaker 6: would you go if you had a time machine. I
- 25:09Speaker 6: can't count the number of young people that say to me,
- 25:13Speaker 6: I'd like to go back before social media. And I'm
- 25:15Speaker 6: going to tell you what. There's an awakening happening right now,
- 25:19Speaker 6: and most people aren't seeing it. But I'm in school
- 25:21Speaker 6: every single day with young people, and I see them
- 25:25Speaker 6: waking up. I see some of them putting the phones down,
- 25:29Speaker 6: and you know, it's very hard to describe what's happening,
- 25:34Speaker 6: but they're figuring it out. As destructive as it is,
- 25:38Speaker 6: and the challenges that it's causing. I see it with
- 25:41Speaker 6: my own eyes. And you watch you play this back
- 25:43Speaker 6: in five years, and you're gonna have a new breed
- 25:45Speaker 6: of human being that's waking up to this.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Look at the schools that you guys have been to
- 25:53Speaker 1: just recently here in Central from Brookside Elementary, Lakeview Elementary,
- 25:57Speaker 1: Woodburry Elementary, Newberry Ludlow, Washington Village School, Orange Center School,
- 26:04Speaker 1: Waits River. These are just off the top of my head.
- 26:08Speaker 1: And that's just right here in our immediate central from
- 26:12Speaker 1: hot area. I mean, you guys are just you're doing it, man,
- 26:17Speaker 1: and no.
- 26:17Speaker 6: Offense, no offense. The greatest schools in America. And what
- 26:20Speaker 6: I mean by that is we we go to Long Island,
- 26:24Speaker 6: We've been to you know, down to Houston and huge,
- 26:30Speaker 6: huge schools. But man, I just fall in love with
- 26:34Speaker 6: these little K twelve schools. You know, I don't know,
- 26:38Speaker 6: and I don't want to sound old or nostalgic, but
- 26:41Speaker 6: that's just the way education should be. It should be
- 26:44Speaker 6: a community.
- 26:45Speaker 1: You have a team that is so powerful that's behind you,
- 26:50Speaker 1: and I think you would you would say that if
- 26:54Speaker 1: you didn't, this wouldn't have nearly the traction and impact
- 26:59Speaker 1: that tat without people like Cloud and sitting next to you.
- 27:04Speaker 1: How did you guys meet how did you get him
- 27:06Speaker 1: involved with this?
- 27:07Speaker 2: Well?
- 27:07Speaker 6: How did we meet.
- 27:10Speaker 2: This?
- 27:11Speaker 1: Uh, maybe that's a whole different.
- 27:13Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, well it is. But I don't
- 27:16Speaker 6: want to call him say it chubby. You can say, Okay,
- 27:20Speaker 6: I didn't want to hurt his feelings. He was a
- 27:22Speaker 6: sixteen year old kid that wandered into sixteen. Yeah, how
- 27:26Speaker 6: are you today? I forget No, twenty nine, I do
- 27:30Speaker 6: forget that though, Are you seriously? Yeah?
- 27:32Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 27:32Speaker 6: I had the restaurant and in Saint Aubans, and he
- 27:36Speaker 6: wandered in was looking for a dish washing job, and
- 27:40Speaker 6: so he started washing dishes for us. And you know,
- 27:45Speaker 6: I didn't see much. I just saw someone that could
- 27:48Speaker 6: fill a hole. And he filled it and didn't complain
- 27:50Speaker 6: too much and never complained, always had a good attitude.
- 27:56Speaker 7: No, you can't complain when you have free food coming back.
- 27:59Speaker 6: Wow, you know, like suret he's talking about eating off
- 28:03Speaker 6: the plates as he's washing the food that comes back.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Oh hell, yes, that's what I'm saying. That's what I
- 28:09Speaker 1: would do.
- 28:10Speaker 7: And he described me as chubby, so it was right
- 28:12Speaker 7: where it needed to be.
- 28:13Speaker 1: He and I would be fighting for this craft.
- 28:15Speaker 6: Yeah, and so just accelerate every He went to Plattsburgh
- 28:20Speaker 6: State got a two degrees right, and so that meant
- 28:24Speaker 6: he was a little bit smart, so probably should keep
- 28:26Speaker 6: him around. And so he he'd come back every summer
- 28:31Speaker 6: like a dog trying to get some food. And so
- 28:34Speaker 6: he worked for us for every summer, and he did
- 28:36Speaker 6: a bunch of stuff from watering, the bartending, and eventually
- 28:42Speaker 6: COVID hit. And actually before that, I came up with
- 28:47Speaker 6: an idea. I said, hey, I got a great idea.
- 28:49Speaker 6: I said, I got this new this space that's attached
- 28:52Speaker 6: to the restaurant, probably two thousand square feet. I said, hey,
- 28:55Speaker 6: I got this idea. I was reading this book by
- 28:57Speaker 6: Malcolm Godwell and I said, I think we should open
- 29:02Speaker 6: a speakeasy. And so I pretty much just had the
- 29:07Speaker 6: initial idea, but then handed it to Louden and he
- 29:10Speaker 6: built the entire thing. And if you go to the
- 29:12Speaker 6: Saint Aubus today, it's called the Clothier. Seriously, Yeah, it
- 29:16Speaker 6: is outrageous because Twigs was a men and boys' clothing
- 29:19Speaker 6: store one hundred years ago and that's the restaurant Twigs.
- 29:24Speaker 6: And so we attached this Speakeas you go into a
- 29:27Speaker 6: changing room, there's a candlestick. It moves. It is unbelievable
- 29:32Speaker 6: what he did inside, but from the drink menu.
- 29:35Speaker 7: And then COVID hit and it crashed the whole thing,
- 29:38Speaker 7: which is ironic though, because in the nineteen twenties the
- 29:42Speaker 7: government banned going to bars no alcohol prohibition. Yeah, the
- 29:46Speaker 7: twenty twenties, the government banned people going to bars because
- 29:50Speaker 7: of the pandemic. So there was this echo throughout the century.
- 29:54Speaker 7: And it was actually pretty like perfect to be honest.
- 29:56Speaker 7: It really was a speakeasy. You had to sneak in
- 29:59Speaker 7: and get in there and wow.
- 30:01Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 30:01Speaker 7: So the spirit of what it stood for was there
- 30:05Speaker 7: the whole time.
- 30:05Speaker 6: Don't ask if we kept it open during COVID.
- 30:08Speaker 1: No, don't ask. I'm not going to ask.
- 30:10Speaker 6: No we didn't.
- 30:11Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking of that question.
- 30:14Speaker 6: No we didn't. But the coolest thing was, and this
- 30:16Speaker 6: is twenty five episodes here, we made an unbelievable video.
- 30:21Speaker 6: Or this kid was in town. Filmmaker was in town
- 30:24Speaker 6: when COVID hit, and he said, hey, do you mind
- 30:27Speaker 6: if I run my camera? And he did this really
- 30:29Speaker 6: cool documentary I'll send to you called the Bull Weavil Boll.
- 30:34Speaker 6: It was an agricultural pest that decimated Enterprise, Alabama nineteen
- 30:38Speaker 6: fifteen and just destroyed the cotton crop. And then they
- 30:43Speaker 6: started making planting peanuts after that, and Enterprise became one
- 30:48Speaker 6: of the greatest producers of peanuts in the world. But
- 30:53Speaker 6: no one could see it when the bull weavil wiped
- 30:56Speaker 6: out the cotton crop and decimated their community. And so
- 31:00Speaker 6: we took that theme when COVID hit the restaurant and
- 31:03Speaker 6: we shut down, and we just said we stole this
- 31:06Speaker 6: from Ricky Yarish because rick getting blown up, said it
- 31:09Speaker 6: was the best thing that ever happened to him, and
- 31:11Speaker 6: I'm gonna tie it out and back into this. And
- 31:14Speaker 6: so when the Vermont Health Department called me and said
- 31:18Speaker 6: shut it down, I walked into the restaurant that day
- 31:21Speaker 6: and I kicked the kitchen doors open. I said, this
- 31:23Speaker 6: is going to be the best thing that ever happened
- 31:25Speaker 6: to this restaurant, and hands down the best thing that
- 31:27Speaker 6: ever happened. Yeah, I gotta be careful when I say
- 31:30Speaker 6: this was COVID. And what I mean by that is
- 31:32Speaker 6: the way that we gave to the community, only because
- 31:37Speaker 6: I thought we were going to go out of business,
- 31:38Speaker 6: so I had to give all this stuff away. But
- 31:40Speaker 6: the way the community responded, Man Twigs just flew off
- 31:46Speaker 6: the charts. After the pandemic had subsided and the community
- 31:50Speaker 6: gave back to us. But Louden was probably out of
- 31:55Speaker 6: two people, he probably was the most instrumental person in
- 32:00Speaker 6: the restaurant. Because he took over the kitchen. That was
- 32:04Speaker 6: just we had tickets that would come out every night,
- 32:07Speaker 6: seven days a week, and spiral like a snake on
- 32:11Speaker 6: the floor because of all the you know, to go
- 32:15Speaker 6: orders and the takeout, which we had never done before.
- 32:19Speaker 6: So we had no idea how to handle this kind
- 32:21Speaker 6: of stuff. You couldn't even keep up. But Louden and
- 32:25Speaker 6: one other person just orchestrated it because the clothinger shut
- 32:29Speaker 6: down and I said, well, we can get rid of
- 32:31Speaker 6: him or keep him, and so he just took over
- 32:34Speaker 6: the kitchen and just it was just a masterpiece. I
- 32:39Speaker 6: don't think he knew what he was doing, but he's
- 32:40Speaker 6: left handed, so he figured it out. I guess.
- 32:42Speaker 1: So how did you get involved with sweethearts and heroes?
- 32:46Speaker 2: Though?
- 32:47Speaker 6: So?
- 32:48Speaker 7: It was always kind of interested in filming, filming different sports, snowboarding,
- 32:54Speaker 7: skateboarding stuff growing up. Always had my hands on like
- 32:56Speaker 7: a camquarder of some sort of photography. And I had
- 33:00Speaker 7: known Tom through the restaurant, and I think he invited
- 33:04Speaker 7: me to come check out a presentation. I remember watching
- 33:07Speaker 7: some presentations maybe in Middleburg or something, New York or something,
- 33:11Speaker 7: and kind of getting my hands to the camera and
- 33:12Speaker 7: then in Essex, I filmed a few and then I
- 33:15Speaker 7: think that's how I kind of started going in there,
- 33:17Speaker 7: maybe a couple animation graphics. I just kind of cutting
- 33:20Speaker 7: my teeth on that a little bit, and then really
- 33:24Speaker 7: kind of went all in with helping with the course
- 33:26Speaker 7: work probably the last year or two, i'd say, and
- 33:30Speaker 7: just filming it and going and that's kind of I think.
- 33:33Speaker 1: And you speak at schools too, No, I do not.
- 33:35Speaker 6: Speak at school yet not Yeah.
- 33:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well spoken guy though, I mean, thank you,
- 33:41Speaker 1: well yeah, insightful, I mean, well a little bit.
- 33:44Speaker 6: He just started a little podcast for us, thank you,
- 33:47Speaker 6: just about a fifteen minute thing called love your Lawn.
- 33:50Speaker 6: Okay lawn it's an acronym, but he just does a
- 33:54Speaker 6: fifteen minute little here's the universe of sweethearts and heroes
- 33:57Speaker 6: he just started. It's very clever, very creative, and I
- 34:01Speaker 6: think that that's why I kind of really asked him
- 34:03Speaker 6: between the clothier. I saw what he did in the
- 34:07Speaker 6: changing a lot of the procedures in the restaurant, just
- 34:10Speaker 6: innovating things, making it, looking at it from a different lens,
- 34:14Speaker 6: and so when you know he could get behind the
- 34:17Speaker 6: lens of a camera, I knew he was going to
- 34:19Speaker 6: shoot it from a different angle and just take a
- 34:22Speaker 6: different perspective, a millennial perspective, a gen x perspective, and
- 34:26Speaker 6: something like, we put a bunch of old people behind
- 34:29Speaker 6: the mics and behind the cameras, but young people want
- 34:32Speaker 6: to see it differently. They want to see it through
- 34:34Speaker 6: those eyes and not these eyes.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Yeah, where do we find Love Your Lawn?
- 34:39Speaker 7: Where Love Your Lawn is on YouTube primarily, but we
- 34:42Speaker 7: also are on Spotify as well, which try we drop
- 34:45Speaker 7: one a week basically just kind of like you said,
- 34:47Speaker 7: encompassing everything that's happened in the Sweethearts and Heroes universe.
- 34:50Speaker 7: You know, it's a Sweethearts and Heroes a lot of
- 34:52Speaker 7: comic book theme, so it's kind of just like the Hub,
- 34:55Speaker 7: the news desk essentially of what's going on. And we
- 34:58Speaker 7: even give try to give some tips for different people
- 35:01Speaker 7: who are trying to conduct some of our work in
- 35:03Speaker 7: the field, essentially just kind of give them little doses
- 35:06Speaker 7: throughout the week. And then another thing is, you know,
- 35:11Speaker 7: not to dwell on the negativity from the news that
- 35:14Speaker 7: you know, it just kind of that's what sells, that's
- 35:17Speaker 7: kind of what's been promoted. We try to take the
- 35:18Speaker 7: stance up, and we do take the stance up. We're
- 35:21Speaker 7: giving the positive side of stuff. We're trying to plant
- 35:23Speaker 7: a seed of maybe light in your week, something that
- 35:26Speaker 7: will kind of help you throughout the week. And there's
- 35:29Speaker 7: so many things that tie in with the lawn and
- 35:31Speaker 7: community and everything that we sense needs to happen. We're
- 35:34Speaker 7: just trying to start somewhere with this as well, just
- 35:36Speaker 7: another avenue where people can tune into it.
- 35:38Speaker 1: So how long have you been connected with Sweethearts and Heroes?
- 35:44Speaker 7: I would say probably, well like maybe four years.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, how has changed your life?
- 35:49Speaker 4: Oh?
- 35:49Speaker 7: This has changed my life well so many ways actually,
- 35:52Speaker 7: And it didn't start when I started Sweearts and Heroes.
- 35:55Speaker 7: It started when we were in the restaurant and kind
- 35:58Speaker 7: of in that time of COVID that he had highlighted.
- 36:00Speaker 7: Because around that time even a little bit before then,
- 36:04Speaker 7: were you kind of like implementing or kind of beta
- 36:09Speaker 7: testing kind of some of like the circle work. How
- 36:11Speaker 7: would you kind of describe that in the restaurant.
- 36:14Speaker 6: That's interesting you bring that up. You know, I woke
- 36:17Speaker 6: up one day I don't know, six seven years ago
- 36:20Speaker 6: and I used to do mandatory staff meetings. Tom, and
- 36:23Speaker 6: we had upwards of seventy employees when we finished our
- 36:28Speaker 6: tenure at the restaurant in twenty twenty two, so it
- 36:30Speaker 6: went from about fifteen to about seventy or eighty people.
- 36:34Speaker 6: And I would have these mandatory staff meetings and I
- 36:37Speaker 6: wasn't you know, but it wasn't the real King Tom.
- 36:42Speaker 6: But anyway, but you know, it's just important you got
- 36:45Speaker 6: to get your team together. They were positive, but it
- 36:48Speaker 6: was me getting up there and you know, running my
- 36:52Speaker 6: mouth like I'm good at and you know, it was
- 36:55Speaker 6: good stuff. But one day I woke up and I
- 36:58Speaker 6: got involved in Circle about seven years ago, which is
- 37:01Speaker 6: a whole different discussion and just changed my life. I
- 37:04Speaker 6: mean absolutely every part of my life. My kids, my
- 37:07Speaker 6: wife would say, I don't really know that guy today,
- 37:10Speaker 6: And one hundred percent of it's because of circle.
- 37:13Speaker 1: Circle is an ancient helped me out here.
- 37:18Speaker 6: It's just everybody listening. Your ancestors Satin circle for thousands
- 37:24Speaker 6: and thousands of years. Four we can trace circle back
- 37:28Speaker 6: to almost four hundred thousand years. People just sit in
- 37:31Speaker 6: a circle and they commune.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Yeah, and oxytocin flows, right, we can all see each other. Yeah,
- 37:40Speaker 1: total transparency and hear each other and each other. That's
- 37:43Speaker 1: the most important point really. I mean, site is a
- 37:46Speaker 1: number one it's the number one sense for human beings.
- 37:52Speaker 1: But when you look at logic and reason, it's built
- 37:55Speaker 1: through the eargate. And that's something we struggle with today
- 37:58Speaker 1: because we don't listen to each other. And circles about listening.
- 38:02Speaker 1: And I can go very nerdy and deep on the
- 38:05Speaker 1: science of empathy, and I talk a lot about it
- 38:07Speaker 1: with in professional development, But the foundational root of empathy,
- 38:13Speaker 1: and the only reason we're here is a species is
- 38:15Speaker 1: because of empathy. We've wanted to share resources with one another. Right,
- 38:19Speaker 1: we help people when they're in distress, so that when
- 38:21Speaker 1: we're in distress.
- 38:21Speaker 6: People help us. That's empathy, right. The foundational rout and
- 38:27Speaker 6: there's a ton of science around this is perspective taking.
- 38:31Speaker 6: It's listening to someone else's perspective. That's the foundational roots
- 38:37Speaker 6: of empathy. And that's what you do in circle. You
- 38:40Speaker 6: just listen to people, and you listen to different generations
- 38:44Speaker 6: and you get to commune with one another and you
- 38:46Speaker 6: bring this to the schools. Oh yeah, it's the most
- 38:48Speaker 6: important work that we do, most important work.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Everyone can see each other.
- 38:53Speaker 6: Oh yeah, h wow. Circle. I love circle. I did, sir.
- 38:56Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I did circle yesterday and
- 38:59Speaker 6: I got U. Sometimes kids, I have talking pieces. You've
- 39:03Speaker 6: seen my little box before and something else that we did.
- 39:05Speaker 6: But I didn't really plan on bringing this. I keep
- 39:08Speaker 6: one on my wallet I got from a young lady.
- 39:10Speaker 6: But I got this from a young man yesterday. And
- 39:14Speaker 6: after the circle, third grader gave this to me.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Super Bowl super Bowl and.
- 39:22Speaker 6: His uncle was murdered, stabbed to death, real important person
- 39:28Speaker 6: in his life. And he got to share that in
- 39:30Speaker 6: the circle yesterday, not because I asked him to, but
- 39:33Speaker 6: that was what was on his heart. And it was
- 39:35Speaker 6: so funny because I took old picture with him because
- 39:37Speaker 6: I keep pictures with kids, and just dropped my ball.
- 39:40Speaker 1: I'll get it.
- 39:41Speaker 6: But and maybe that was a universe saying, don't say anymore, tom,
- 39:47Speaker 6: let it go, Let it go, let it go. But
- 39:49Speaker 6: that's for me, and I don't share his picture, but
- 39:52Speaker 6: but he it was.
- 39:52Speaker 7: It was.
- 39:53Speaker 6: It was the cutest thing, and it was really special
- 39:55Speaker 6: because after the circle, all the other kids left the
- 39:58Speaker 6: room and he out with me, and you know, he
- 40:01Speaker 6: talked about his uncle and what happened, and he told
- 40:05Speaker 6: me a little bit more, and it was like a
- 40:07Speaker 6: movie man. He gets to the door and he leaves
- 40:10Speaker 6: all the other kids on the playground, so he didn't
- 40:13Speaker 6: have a little playground time because he wanted to talk
- 40:15Speaker 6: to me after the circle. And and but he gets
- 40:18Speaker 6: that door and he looks back over his short he goes,
- 40:20Speaker 6: I think you should come back here again. I said, well,
- 40:24Speaker 6: I will see buddy. But that was a really special
- 40:26Speaker 6: moment for me. So I'll keep that in my circle box.
- 40:29Speaker 6: And you know, it don't mean a lot to me
- 40:31Speaker 6: over the years, and at the right moment, some other
- 40:34Speaker 6: kid will pick that up and he'll say, let's use
- 40:36Speaker 6: this for the talking piece, and and the universe will
- 40:41Speaker 6: someone else in that circle will need to hear that story.
- 40:45Speaker 6: And I could, I could. I could blow your mind
- 40:48Speaker 6: right now with things that have been pulled out of
- 40:51Speaker 6: that box. And I had one a couple of weeks
- 40:55Speaker 6: ago that just I still can't process it. I can't
- 40:58Speaker 6: process it. How do you universe knew that one circle
- 41:02Speaker 6: that that teacher was in that needed to hear what
- 41:05Speaker 6: that kid happened to pick out that box?
- 41:07Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know, you know, Listen, I'll be the
- 41:11Speaker 1: first to say understand the importance of curriculum, and there's
- 41:19Speaker 1: a reason why we go to school. It is to
- 41:21Speaker 1: learn the things that we need to learn in life
- 41:24Speaker 1: and have those tools. And when I was in elementary school,
- 41:29Speaker 1: it was it was just you know, you sat down,
- 41:35Speaker 1: you listened, you learned or you tried to learn. You
- 41:39Speaker 1: did your work, You had recess for like an hour plus,
- 41:46Speaker 1: no matter what the weather was doing, and then you
- 41:48Speaker 1: went back in the classroom and you learned some more.
- 41:50Speaker 1: And yeah, well there was a few of us that
- 41:52Speaker 1: kufed off, but sometimes me. But the purpose of going
- 41:58Speaker 1: to school was to learn. You guys are bringing something
- 42:02Speaker 1: into the school that is not necessarily the math, the science,
- 42:06Speaker 1: and the social studies in the English, but it's the
- 42:10Speaker 1: other stuff that we need to learn, respect, empathy, compassion.
- 42:19Speaker 1: Bullying is something that is so huge now. And yeah,
- 42:25Speaker 1: of course it was a little bit of bullying when
- 42:27Speaker 1: when I was in school, and it's just seemed like
- 42:31Speaker 1: things got settled kind of organically. But now bullying has
- 42:38Speaker 1: gone to a next level. Parents aren't parenting, they're not
- 42:46Speaker 1: keeping their kids in check and holding them accountable for
- 42:52Speaker 1: their behavior. A lot of parents are not a lot
- 42:56Speaker 1: are But you guys are parenting almost you're teaching kids.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Look at the residual effects of your behavior toward other students.
- 43:18Speaker 1: Look at what can happen, Look at what accumulates in
- 43:24Speaker 1: another student's soul if you're continually, even if you think
- 43:31Speaker 1: it's harmless battering them or picking on them, and do
- 43:39Speaker 1: the right thing. Think and rethink about what might come
- 43:47Speaker 1: out of your mouth before it comes out of your mouth,
- 43:49Speaker 1: and that words can be really powerful and can hurt,
- 43:52Speaker 1: but can also be so good and give birth to
- 43:59Speaker 1: a whole new feeling. And you can turn this around.
- 44:04Speaker 1: You don't just because you're bullying or whatever it is
- 44:09Speaker 1: that you're doing, doesn't mean that you have to do
- 44:11Speaker 1: that every day. And not only hold yourself accountable, but
- 44:15Speaker 1: hold your other your other fellow students accountable. Watch what
- 44:19Speaker 1: other kids are doing, and don't look away from it,
- 44:24Speaker 1: don't ignore it, get involved with it, and say, hey,
- 44:30Speaker 1: in your indirect kind of way, you can be better,
- 44:34Speaker 1: we can be better. And man, it's like a testimony here.
- 44:39Speaker 1: Within a week after you guys were at my daughter school,
- 44:44Speaker 1: she did what you guys have taught her on the
- 44:48Speaker 1: playground and came home and told me, and I think
- 44:53Speaker 1: I texted you right away. Man.
- 44:56Speaker 6: There's so much your stuff, man, and I don't want
- 44:59Speaker 6: to dominate this conversation, but I do thank you for
- 45:04Speaker 6: bringing up the B word, because I you know, when
- 45:07Speaker 6: I talk about the origin story of sweethearts and heroes,
- 45:11Speaker 6: that's where it begins. And I'm not going to rehash
- 45:14Speaker 6: the actual origin of it. But you know, Rick and
- 45:17Speaker 6: I were known as the bully guys, and that's how
- 45:20Speaker 6: that's the horse that we ride in on. Is this bullying?
- 45:23Speaker 6: And I think it's very important for your your listeners,
- 45:26Speaker 6: And this is kind of the nugget of wisdom, if
- 45:30Speaker 6: you will, the learning portion, because I have a lot
- 45:35Speaker 6: of parents that have come up to me over the
- 45:37Speaker 6: years of the thousands in my personal life and said,
- 45:40Speaker 6: my daughter's getting bullied. And I'm like, oh, tell me
- 45:42Speaker 6: the story, and while she's in kindergarten and I'm like, yeah,
- 45:46Speaker 6: and listen. Then you know, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, sure,
- 45:50Speaker 6: but I like to say the mean switch gets turned
- 45:51Speaker 6: on about the fifth grade, that's when it happens. But
- 45:55Speaker 6: before that, maybe there's something, Maybe there's some bullying behavior,
- 45:59Speaker 6: not bullying but you know, mommy hits daddy. Daddy calls
- 46:02Speaker 6: mommy stupid, and kids come to school they call people
- 46:05Speaker 6: stupid and they hit each other. And maybe they're just
- 46:08Speaker 6: replicating behavior that they've seen. But I think it's very
- 46:12Speaker 6: important right now that I just give you a little
- 46:14Speaker 6: understanding because any parent that's struggling with bullying, because Word's
- 46:18Speaker 6: a powerful man, they cut like a two edged sword.
- 46:21Speaker 6: They heal, they help, but they're very destructive. Anyone that
- 46:25Speaker 6: says sticks and stones don't break my bones, that's not true.
- 46:29Speaker 6: You know, I got a poem that I wrote years ago.
- 46:34Speaker 6: Names and words could call me caused me to kill myself.
- 46:37Speaker 6: That's one of the lines in the poem. Two kids.
- 46:40Speaker 6: Last night, I was going to bed. At ten o'clock,
- 46:43Speaker 6: I get a Google alert. Two kids in Virginia, two
- 46:47Speaker 6: different articles. Seventeen year old and a ten year old
- 46:52Speaker 6: ended their own lives. Two in Virginia. And you know,
- 46:56Speaker 6: middle school suicides of middle schooler since two thousand and
- 46:59Speaker 6: seven crippled. Thirty percent of young women post pandemic have
- 47:05Speaker 6: considered ending their own lives in this country. And that's
- 47:08Speaker 6: not a bullying discussion, right, that's a hopelessness discussion. That's
- 47:11Speaker 6: a separate one.
- 47:13Speaker 1: But what I want to do, umbrella, isn't it. That's
- 47:15Speaker 1: the big umbrella, that's that encompasses mental health and everything else.
- 47:19Speaker 6: That's that's that's another day. But I do want to
- 47:22Speaker 6: give your listeners a little knowledge on bullying because when
- 47:27Speaker 6: parents come to me, the first thing or administrator or
- 47:30Speaker 6: a teacher at every level from kindergarten to twelfth grade,
- 47:35Speaker 6: when we leave, everyone knows what bullying is. Because the
- 47:39Speaker 6: first thing I teach young people in a very animated, fun,
- 47:43Speaker 6: sticky way, is what bullying is. Right here, here's the definite.
- 47:46Speaker 6: It's a bustering qarl, some overbring person who bigitally intention
- 47:49Speaker 6: bad just smaller weaker people. You got to say, that's
- 47:51Speaker 6: slower one more time for us. I do that on purpose.
- 47:53Speaker 6: But bullyings made up of four things. So if a
- 47:57Speaker 6: parent comes to me, because most of the time parents
- 48:01Speaker 6: will confuse conflict in bullying, and conflict is great. Man
- 48:06Speaker 6: Loud and I have had a ton of conflict the problem.
- 48:09Speaker 6: That's how you make things better in business. You have
- 48:12Speaker 6: conflict with people and it can be heated. Conflict the
- 48:15Speaker 6: problem is unresolved. Conflict is the problem, and that's what
- 48:19Speaker 6: you're probably talking about. And someone got their feelings hurt,
- 48:23Speaker 6: someone lost the argument. There's nothing wrong with conflict. And
- 48:27Speaker 6: that's another big discussion on building one stress response system properly,
- 48:33Speaker 6: and that's something we've you know, decimated in young people.
- 48:36Speaker 6: But four things that make something bullying. Number one, it
- 48:41Speaker 6: has to be habitual, has to happen over and over again.
- 48:44Speaker 6: Let me back up. I'd say number one is the
- 48:46Speaker 6: signature bullying. It's fear. It's intimidation. Number one thing I
- 48:51Speaker 6: tell ask a parent, is your kid afraid to go
- 48:53Speaker 6: to school? Do they not want to be there? And
- 48:56Speaker 6: some people are going to disagree with this, but that's okay.
- 48:59Speaker 1: I've just bought or even not maybe not necessarily afraid
- 49:02Speaker 1: to go to school, but feeling anxious when they're in
- 49:04Speaker 1: the presence of someone.
- 49:06Speaker 6: Right, But I just usually start with the are they
- 49:09Speaker 6: afraid to go to school? But no, you're right. It
- 49:11Speaker 6: might be afraid to go to the bus stop, Sure,
- 49:13Speaker 6: walk down a certain hallway because they have to see
- 49:16Speaker 6: a kid. But it's fear, it's intimidation. That's the signature bullying.
- 49:19Speaker 6: It's not two kids not getting along, one student getting upset,
- 49:22Speaker 6: one young person getting upset. It's fear, right, that's the
- 49:27Speaker 6: real danger here. So is there an element of fear intimidation?
- 49:31Speaker 6: Does it happen over and over again? Right? That's very important.
- 49:34Speaker 6: That's the programming of the young person to believe something
- 49:38Speaker 6: about themselves, or their family or their condition.
- 49:41Speaker 7: Right.
- 49:41Speaker 6: They're programmed like a computer. Now that's a big discussion too,
- 49:45Speaker 6: because the cyber world changes that a bit. But number three,
- 49:50Speaker 6: the person that gets targeted has to feel it's a
- 49:56Speaker 6: very important word smaller or weaker And what does that mean?
- 50:01Speaker 6: It means anything, right, And that's one We're just good
- 50:04Speaker 6: at our age of picking up the big things raised
- 50:07Speaker 6: gender poverty. But what I've learned after all these years
- 50:11Speaker 6: is it could be anything. It's that girl, that young
- 50:14Speaker 6: woman that's prettier than everyone else. That's a tough thing
- 50:19Speaker 6: for a young lady when she becomes that girl, you know,
- 50:23Speaker 6: and she's got to wear that label through middle school
- 50:25Speaker 6: and high school. That's a tough thing. Most people won't
- 50:28Speaker 6: ever know how that feels. Right. And then, of course
- 50:31Speaker 6: the last part in that it happens on purpose. It's
- 50:34Speaker 6: an intentional act. And this one parents and teachers really
- 50:38Speaker 6: need to grasp because I give this one to teachers.
- 50:41Speaker 6: I say, teachers, this one's almost exclusively for you, right,
- 50:46Speaker 6: because you ever do something hurtful to someone because you
- 50:51Speaker 6: were having a bad day, Yeah, of course you have,
- 50:55Speaker 6: and we just label things bullying When a kid, it
- 50:58Speaker 6: looks intentional because they did it intentionally, But there's a
- 51:02Speaker 6: pretty good chance that they're having a really crummy day.
- 51:05Speaker 6: Their parents are going through a divorce, their dog died.
- 51:09Speaker 6: I don't know what the issue is, but they made
- 51:11Speaker 6: a mistake, and I'll kind of land on this. I've
- 51:14Speaker 6: got this new thing that I almost think adults should
- 51:18Speaker 6: be prosecuted. You can clip that one. When we crucify
- 51:25Speaker 6: a kid, you know, online in front of other adults
- 51:31Speaker 6: for a behavior that they did in school, I think
- 51:33Speaker 6: it should be illegal. You wanna block something on social media,
- 51:38Speaker 6: Elon Musker, whoever, Zuckerberg or whatever, that's what you should
- 51:43Speaker 6: block because you know what, man, I did a lot
- 51:46Speaker 6: of hurtful things when I was a kid because life
- 51:49Speaker 6: was just crappy and I was just having to fight
- 51:52Speaker 6: with my parents or my sister, and I took it
- 51:56Speaker 6: out on someone else. Now I would call that bullying behavior,
- 52:00Speaker 6: but it doesn't mean the kid bullied a single person,
- 52:02Speaker 6: it means, you know, he's operating on his feelings because
- 52:05Speaker 6: that's what kids operate on their feelings, right, Right, So
- 52:08Speaker 6: I just think it's very important at the beginning of
- 52:10Speaker 6: this whole thing, because that's how Sweethearts in Hero started
- 52:13Speaker 6: he asked to do in two thousand and nine. I
- 52:16Speaker 6: think kind of putation on bullying and the anti bullying,
- 52:19Speaker 6: that's right, and so we've always kind of kept that
- 52:22Speaker 6: theme because that's been around for thousands and thousands of years, right,
- 52:27Speaker 6: People mistreating people and it's going to continue to be
- 52:31Speaker 6: around and you're not going to eradicate it.
- 52:33Speaker 7: Yeah, And it seems that's where it starts, and that's
- 52:37Speaker 7: what we think of. We're trying to end bullying like this,
- 52:39Speaker 7: but really it seems as if we're trying to unify the.
- 52:44Speaker 6: The community of within.
- 52:46Speaker 7: The school so it's less likely they would bully. You know,
- 52:50Speaker 7: we're strengthening their internal relationships, different groups, different clicks. I
- 52:55Speaker 7: know that person, we have something in common. I'm not
- 52:58Speaker 7: gonna blame them. They're all cool now, they're chilling now,
- 53:00Speaker 7: like do you know what I'm saying? Kind of like,
- 53:03Speaker 7: so it's not like bullying bad, you're in trouble now,
- 53:06Speaker 7: It's like he is less likely to bully someone else
- 53:09Speaker 7: because we're all cool. We're all friends with each other,
- 53:12Speaker 7: and even if we don't have a ton in common,
- 53:14Speaker 7: we still treat each other with dignity because that's what
- 53:16Speaker 7: we've trained ourselves to do through other practices like circle
- 53:19Speaker 7: and different stuff like that. So it's really kind of cool,
- 53:22Speaker 7: and I think it's way more And the students say this.
- 53:27Speaker 7: I'm just saying what the students say when I interviewed them.
- 53:29Speaker 7: They say that these are the skills that are helping
- 53:32Speaker 7: them in life with like you know, job or applying
- 53:36Speaker 7: for colleges or all these things, or just you know,
- 53:39Speaker 7: kind of building who they are as a person, as
- 53:40Speaker 7: a character. They didn't know how to do that before.
- 53:42Speaker 7: So it's just it just transcends bullying. Bullying is kind
- 53:46Speaker 7: of I feel like the foot in the door, but
- 53:48Speaker 7: then like it's just unifying the whole entire school. Beyond that,
- 53:53Speaker 7: it just seems like that is actually stopping bullying.
- 53:55Speaker 1: You know, so well, I think it's one thing for
- 53:58Speaker 1: you guys to bring this this this message and this
- 54:02Speaker 1: presentation to schools, a whole other thing to incorporate your
- 54:09Speaker 1: train the Trainer program, if you will, for lack of
- 54:14Speaker 1: a better term, where now you guys are talking about
- 54:17Speaker 1: some serious residual effect here where when you leave, whether
- 54:23Speaker 1: you come back to that school or not. When you
- 54:25Speaker 1: when you leave, you've planned a seed that hopefully is
- 54:29Speaker 1: is really going to sprout. And when you when you
- 54:32Speaker 1: training the trainers, that's next level.
- 54:37Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah. But here's the cool thing about our
- 54:40Speaker 6: Train the Trainer. You say that and people are listening.
- 54:43Speaker 6: You think about us training adults to train students in
- 54:49Speaker 6: this work, and I know people are gonna say, well,
- 54:52Speaker 6: what kind of work? What do you train them?
- 54:54Speaker 2: In?
- 54:55Speaker 6: Big long, ten year discussion. We have a full the
- 55:00Speaker 6: classes in schools. But our true train the Trainer we
- 55:04Speaker 6: are training students get a program called Step step, the
- 55:11Speaker 6: Student Teacher Empathy Program, and we actually train high school students.
- 55:17Speaker 6: We don't train adults. I mean, we do train adults
- 55:19Speaker 6: and we have a lot of professional development. But our
- 55:21Speaker 6: real work, and this is where we will sweep America.
- 55:25Speaker 6: This is our goal is we train high school students.
- 55:29Speaker 6: We had seven schools this year that the high schoolers
- 55:34Speaker 6: learned the message of sweethearts and heroes at the K
- 55:37Speaker 6: two and the three to five level, and now we
- 55:40Speaker 6: have high school students presented to the elementary schools just
- 55:44Speaker 6: like we did for a decade, and that's where we
- 55:48Speaker 6: exponentially change the game.
- 55:51Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, because not only not only are you
- 55:54Speaker 7: multiplying the boots on the ground in terms of you
- 55:57Speaker 7: have all these people who can who know the lesson,
- 55:59Speaker 7: who can convey it, but also the way that these
- 56:03Speaker 7: younger students see these high school students are presenting, it's
- 56:06Speaker 7: so much more impactful than seeing Tom and Rick. Not
- 56:09Speaker 7: to take anything from Tom and the Rickshaw, but it's
- 56:13Speaker 7: so insane. Even when we were building these classes, we
- 56:17Speaker 7: incorporated a toolbox into these lessons, some things that give
- 56:21Speaker 7: these people, these these high school students, some some tricks
- 56:24Speaker 7: of the trade to present, and one of them was
- 56:27Speaker 7: give them some time, remind them, hey, I'm almost done here,
- 56:30Speaker 7: Hey I'm talking. Hey, we accounted for the loss of attention.
- 56:34Speaker 7: I have seen so many STEP presentations where high schoolers
- 56:38Speaker 7: are presenting. There is no loss of attention at all
- 56:41Speaker 7: because because the students just are looking up at these
- 56:45Speaker 7: high schoo students like they're like they're celebrities of so
- 56:49Speaker 7: so it's just so bizarre to see. And uh, and
- 56:52Speaker 7: of course there's there are new presenters. It's not even
- 56:54Speaker 7: as polished. So it's not the element. Oh, they just
- 56:57Speaker 7: have the presentation down. It's not the element.
- 56:59Speaker 6: Is this what do you call it?
- 57:01Speaker 7: It's a what is that?
- 57:02Speaker 6: Well? What he's talking about? And we kind of stumbled
- 57:05Speaker 6: on this. You know, we would do these programs, our
- 57:08Speaker 6: Brave program, where we go in to school for six
- 57:10Speaker 6: weeks and we take a group of older students, you know,
- 57:14Speaker 6: mostly the gatekeepers, influencers and not just the high flyers,
- 57:18Speaker 6: the ones that have some influence in the hallways. And
- 57:20Speaker 6: we take those whether they're eighth graders or eleven, the
- 57:23Speaker 6: twelfth graders, and we take those students, we train them
- 57:26Speaker 6: for a full day and then we come back once
- 57:27Speaker 6: a week. And we invented something called a bully drill,
- 57:31Speaker 6: like a fire drill. Yeah right, I've seen, yeah, you've
- 57:34Speaker 6: seen it. So fun. But it's about age mixed play.
- 57:39Speaker 6: And if there's one thing I can talk about, it's
- 57:42Speaker 6: the science of play. I've just spent a decade learning
- 57:46Speaker 6: about it, reading, devouring everything I can get on. And
- 57:49Speaker 6: what he's talking on another podcast talking about Yeah, so
- 57:53Speaker 6: what we kind of stumbled on was I play old
- 57:55Speaker 6: mister incredible, and I tear my shirt off and every
- 57:58Speaker 6: kid loves me. And when I walk the hallways like
- 58:00Speaker 6: mister incredible, mister I can come back the next year,
- 58:03Speaker 6: and the kids like it's incredible, like they'll just know.
- 58:08Speaker 6: But but so that's what kind of built my ego around,
- 58:12Speaker 6: you know, King Tom and stuff. But anyway, but no,
- 58:14Speaker 6: but let me let me take this point because it's beautiful.
- 58:17Speaker 6: So because it's happened to me, this is where my
- 58:19Speaker 6: head goes psh and pops. Right. Yeah, So it happened
- 58:23Speaker 6: to me a couple of times where I go train
- 58:26Speaker 6: these older students, these older mammals, and I'm like, all right,
- 58:30Speaker 6: now we're gonna go down to the second grade classroom
- 58:32Speaker 6: and do bully drills. Now, if I see those second
- 58:35Speaker 6: graders in the hallway, they're like, yeah, mister credible, mister incredible.
- 58:38Speaker 6: And but I bring these high school middle school students down.
- 58:43Speaker 6: The little kids don't even.
- 58:44Speaker 1: Look at me.
- 58:46Speaker 6: They look at the high school and the middle schoolers
- 58:48Speaker 6: and they're like and all they want to do is
- 58:50Speaker 6: connect with them, because when you look at you know
- 58:53Speaker 6: how mammals truly learn. Baby Bear tries to play with
- 58:57Speaker 6: Mama Bear. She entertains for a few minutes, and then
- 59:01Speaker 6: she's like, I got Mama bear stuff to do. Baby
- 59:05Speaker 6: Bear then goes down to the river watches the teenage bears.
- 59:09Speaker 6: This is so deeply rooted in our brain stem. And
- 59:15Speaker 6: every mammal has a play cycle. Rats started four weeks,
- 59:18Speaker 6: they ended fourteen weeks. But humans have the longest play
- 59:22Speaker 6: cycles of all the mammals, and we are just the
- 59:25Speaker 6: most neotonous creatures on Planet Earth. Planet Earth, we've retained
- 59:28Speaker 6: those juvenile tendencies the longest. I mean I talked to
- 59:31Speaker 6: your wife, she'd tell me you still act like a
- 59:34Speaker 6: little kid most of the time. But the point is,
- 59:38Speaker 6: what Loudon gets to see that I have been watching
- 59:42Speaker 6: for over a decade, is that he gets to see
- 59:46Speaker 6: through a lens these high school students, these older mammals
- 59:50Speaker 6: automatically teaching. The worst thing compulsory education ever did was
- 59:55Speaker 6: segregate kids by age, hands down the worst thing, because
- 59:59Speaker 6: that that's how mammals learn. And that's why I like
- 1:00:03Speaker 6: these little Vermont schools, yeah right, because they still integrate
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: so many of the kids on the playground yesterday on
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: the playground. They had their sixth graders out there with
- 1:00:14Speaker 6: the first and second graders. If you take the science
- 1:00:17Speaker 6: is incredible. If you take an entire elementary Beatrice Whiting
- 1:00:20Speaker 6: some other folks did the science on this. If you
- 1:00:24Speaker 6: release an entire elementary school into a gym a playground,
- 1:00:28Speaker 6: half of those kids will pair up with kids two
- 1:00:31Speaker 6: years older than themselves, the little kids, and a quarter
- 1:00:35Speaker 6: of them will pair up with kids within four years older.
- 1:00:38Speaker 6: You're thinking right now about your daughter and how old
- 1:00:42Speaker 6: is she ten? Right?
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: She loves being around.
- 1:00:47Speaker 6: Two year olds, three year olds, four year olds. She
- 1:00:49Speaker 6: loves it because she's programmed to love it.
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: Yeah, big sister mentality.
- 1:00:53Speaker 6: Yeah wow, and that's our and that's one of the
- 1:00:57Speaker 6: roots of our work. And he gets to watch it
- 1:00:59Speaker 6: through lens now and say wow, because they fract because
- 1:01:03Speaker 6: look what happened subconsciously with a kid in the classroom.
- 1:01:06Speaker 6: They're listening to material from a teacher, and even if
- 1:01:10Speaker 6: it's a great teacher and they love the teacher, and
- 1:01:12Speaker 6: it's still recurds to take. Yeah, but they just their
- 1:01:15Speaker 6: their attention is so fractured today it's still like at
- 1:01:19Speaker 6: some point you gloss over and now subconsciously, you're saying
- 1:01:23Speaker 6: adults are kind of boring where kids are boring.
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, beautiful stuff. I'm guessing both of you.
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: Uh I already know about Tom, but loud and uh,
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're you're you're similar to Tom, and that
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: when you have left some schools and seen what you've
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: seen through your lens, that by the time you've made
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: it out to your car and you're putting it in gear,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: you're so consumed with what you've just witnessed an experience
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: that you don't even remember the drive.
- 1:02:03Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:02:03Speaker 7: No, that's one hundred percent. And a lot of the
- 1:02:05Speaker 7: times too, like while I'm filming this stuff or asking
- 1:02:08Speaker 7: these questions, I in my head already know where that
- 1:02:11Speaker 7: thing's going, but the students totally totally like, yeah, just
- 1:02:18Speaker 7: remind me, Hey, no, this is you know, and I
- 1:02:20Speaker 7: think that I don't know what that, I don't know
- 1:02:22Speaker 7: what the name for that is. But but eventually yes
- 1:02:25Speaker 7: to kind of what you're saying is like I'm almost
- 1:02:27Speaker 7: I think I'm starting this day, I know exactly how
- 1:02:29Speaker 7: it's going to go, and I'm essentially blindsided, blindsided throughout
- 1:02:32Speaker 7: the day with stuff I hadn't even thought of. And
- 1:02:34Speaker 7: then yeah, it does consume my ride home because it's
- 1:02:36Speaker 7: like this this Tom will call, hey, how to go?
- 1:02:39Speaker 6: You would believe the stuff we got.
- 1:02:41Speaker 7: I didn't even know that was that that was even
- 1:02:44Speaker 7: a component of what they're dealing with. So it's just
- 1:02:47Speaker 7: it's just interesting. There's always surprise, it feels like with
- 1:02:51Speaker 7: something new that arises, and and yeah, it definitely it's
- 1:02:54Speaker 7: definitely makes me think a lot about it. For sure.
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: What he's talking about I told him I was not
- 1:02:59Speaker 6: going to talk about this where he's like, you should
- 1:03:01Speaker 6: talk about that today. But what he's talking about is
- 1:03:04Speaker 6: something called wonder, and I won't. I could go on
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: a crazy, sick cosmological diatribe about wonder right now and
- 1:03:15Speaker 6: the wonderbeam that we all ride. And what he's seeing
- 1:03:19Speaker 6: is what Feineman, you know, the physicist, you know, they
- 1:03:22Speaker 6: called him the Great Explainer and he was brilliant, Richard Feynman,
- 1:03:27Speaker 6: Nobel Prize winner, And you know what he talked about
- 1:03:32Speaker 6: was fluid intelligence. You know, you have crystallized intelligence, you'll
- 1:03:36Speaker 6: learn things your whole life, but young people have this
- 1:03:39Speaker 6: thing called fluid intelligence. And it's what Einstein said, right
- 1:03:43Speaker 6: that imagination and creativity is more important than knowledge. We
- 1:03:47Speaker 6: just wrote an article and we read about this and
- 1:03:49Speaker 6: we quoted this. But this guy turns to true story,
- 1:03:53Speaker 6: it turns to Einstein, says, hey, what's your phone number?
- 1:03:55Speaker 6: And Einstein hands him a phone book and the guy's like, dude,
- 1:03:58Speaker 6: you'r Einstein, what's your phone He's like, it's in a book.
- 1:04:01Speaker 6: Why do I have to know it? And So what
- 1:04:04Speaker 6: Loudin is seeing through a lens, he's seeing fluid intelligence working,
- 1:04:12Speaker 6: and we're annihilating that in young people. You know, we
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: put them in front of a phone, which I'm not
- 1:04:17Speaker 6: antiphone for kids. There's a lot to say about it,
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: a lot of challenges, but largely one of the things
- 1:04:24Speaker 6: they're doing, though, is they're using someone else's intelligence, their
- 1:04:28Speaker 6: fluid intelligence, their creativity, their imagination, and to carbon copy
- 1:04:33Speaker 6: of Yeah, and it does spark new things, and it's
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: going to take us into a brand new realm. So
- 1:04:40Speaker 6: we can't dismiss this. You've become smarter, better, faster by
- 1:04:46Speaker 6: looking at content. But when the kid is in that
- 1:04:49Speaker 6: for seven to nine hours a day and they're not
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: bored anymore, yeah, that's a problem.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: That's a problem.
- 1:04:57Speaker 7: Because is the boredom is that what kind of stimulates
- 1:05:01Speaker 7: the wonder in a sense, the essence of boredom.
- 1:05:05Speaker 6: I would say that that boredom. Boredom is the second
- 1:05:08Speaker 6: most suppressed emotion in humans. We have an unbelievable human
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: that works with us. Kid saw us present in middle school.
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: He's a man now and I think he's about Loudon's age,
- 1:05:18Speaker 6: and he has a degree in industrial psychology. His name
- 1:05:21Speaker 6: is Pat Fish. He wrote a wonderful book of poetry
- 1:05:24Speaker 6: called Boredom School, because school is I see that boring.
- 1:05:30Speaker 6: And I don't say that to disschool. I believe in education,
- 1:05:34Speaker 6: but we've annihilated boredom and young people and a lot
- 1:05:39Speaker 6: of imagination and creativity comes out of boredom. You're bored,
- 1:05:42Speaker 6: you go outside, you figure something out. You go to
- 1:05:45Speaker 6: your room and you figure something cool out. That's fun.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: This is what Pat Fish wrote, Boredom School. Yeah, it's great.
- 1:05:54Speaker 6: Man. And the great thing about Pat in that book
- 1:05:57Speaker 6: it makes me smile, is a teacher head faked him.
- 1:06:00Speaker 6: His dad was a superintendent, a principal of the year
- 1:06:04Speaker 6: in New York State. Mom was a thirty year educator.
- 1:06:06Speaker 6: He wasn't crazy about school. Very intelligent. It probably got
- 1:06:12Speaker 6: himself in a little trouble being as smart as he was.
- 1:06:15Speaker 6: But a teacher, but Pat loved rap music. He's a sick.
- 1:06:19Speaker 6: You have to get him on here. He's a sick.
- 1:06:20Speaker 6: He can just freestyle. I try and make him do
- 1:06:24Speaker 6: it in front of kids. It's great. He ask you
- 1:06:26Speaker 6: a few questions and he'll just start breaking it into
- 1:06:29Speaker 6: a freestyle. But a teacher had faked him in middle
- 1:06:34Speaker 6: school or early high school and said, hey, Patrick, we're
- 1:06:38Speaker 6: doing a poetry unit. Maybe you can bring some of
- 1:06:41Speaker 6: that little Wayne to the poetry unit. And he was like, what,
- 1:06:44Speaker 6: I can bring rap music to the poetry unit. And
- 1:06:47Speaker 6: so ever since, he's been writing poetry and he's got
- 1:06:50Speaker 6: a sick book called Boredom School. It's about a new
- 1:06:53Speaker 6: kid to a school. It's a sequential set of poems
- 1:06:56Speaker 6: and it's hard to be a new kid to a school. Yeah,
- 1:07:00Speaker 6: that's one of the things. That's a kid that can
- 1:07:01Speaker 6: easily become targeted, and sometimes that makes some young people
- 1:07:06Speaker 6: feel smaller or weaker on the inside. How many times
- 1:07:09Speaker 6: you just if you look at social penetration theory, that's
- 1:07:14Speaker 6: a it's a really really interesting how we create relationships.
- 1:07:18Speaker 6: You know, you always start out very reserved and orientation first,
- 1:07:22Speaker 6: like you know this, yeah, you know the person that
- 1:07:25Speaker 6: just jumps in and you're like, who is this weirdo?
- 1:07:27Speaker 6: So most of us we take it easy when we
- 1:07:31Speaker 6: get into a new environment. We don't just jump in
- 1:07:33Speaker 6: and say, look at a loss of I am. So
- 1:07:36Speaker 6: it's hard to be a new kid, especially when you
- 1:07:37Speaker 6: get to those middle levels, that middle school level, high
- 1:07:40Speaker 6: school level. So Patrit a wonderful book called Boredom School
- 1:07:44Speaker 6: right now on social media. He's on day one seventy
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: or one eighty or something like that that she's giving
- 1:07:49Speaker 6: me the sign here I can't read but four hundred
- 1:07:52Speaker 6: and something, no one, but he's doing a poem a day.
- 1:07:56Speaker 6: He brings a Boredom School to school, and he finds
- 1:08:00Speaker 6: a young person to read a poem he gets don't
- 1:08:03Speaker 6: pick anyone that they want that means something to them.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: So I can't help. But as you're saying this, I'm
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: I'm you know, Sherilyn and Lily were just on a
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: road trip and a lot of it was Lily spent
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: you know, on a tablet and watching things during the
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: road trip, and you know, I'm trying to explain to her,
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: just speaking about boredom, that when I was her age,
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: we didn't have tablets, we didn't have cell phones, and
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: we just had to look out the window and imagine,
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: imagine things. What am I going to do when we
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: get there? What am I going to do when I
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: get home? I'm imagining myself climbing that tree or walking
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: up that field or whatever, riding my bicycle somewhere. I mean,
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: it's like, wow, how did I freaking survive? You know,
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: I think of the the song Counting Blue Cars, but
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: it's like, my god, man, It's like trying to explain
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: to her, you're lucky that that you can have that
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: that distraction. But mom also makes her shut it off. Yeah,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: that's cool for for a while. Okay, it's been long enough.
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: It's time to unplug for a little while.
- 1:09:23Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a giant discussion, bro.
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a discussion because now we've got
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: to snap back.
- 1:09:30Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's almost like looking out the window is
- 1:09:33Speaker 7: like very he's very minuscule, but you never know it
- 1:09:36Speaker 7: comes back because didn't Einstein come up with the theory
- 1:09:38Speaker 7: of relativity by looking out like a train window and
- 1:09:41Speaker 7: seeing like poles or something past I could have swore
- 1:09:43Speaker 7: I heard something about like he was on a train
- 1:09:46Speaker 7: seeing the Poles pass, and it's just like it's just
- 1:09:49Speaker 7: a very small little moment, you know, and had he
- 1:09:52Speaker 7: have a tablet in his hands and he wasn't present, right,
- 1:09:55Speaker 7: you never know what. So it's kind of interesting because.
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: We just drove true not long ago, through Brooklyn and
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: you know, we're getting off off that off the highway
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: and we're coming to the city and I'm just getting
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: ready to say to Lily, tablet off, and Shriylyn beat
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: me to it, and I was like, that's awesome. Not off,
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: but like power off. We're driving through Brooklyn. You are
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: going to be looking around. I want you to see everything.
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: I want you to see the buildings. I want you
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: to see some poverty. I want you to see some graffiti.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: I want to talk about graffiti.
- 1:10:40Speaker 6: What is it?
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: Why do people do that?
- 1:10:42Speaker 6: You know?
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: All of these things. I want you to see it.
- 1:10:46Speaker 6: I'll give you something deeper to think about. On this level,
- 1:10:48Speaker 6: I can get very philosophical. I get way too philosophical
- 1:10:53Speaker 6: about things. That's a beautiful thing of mine. Went to
- 1:11:01Speaker 6: Hawaii with him, did twenty schools in Hawaii once and
- 1:11:05Speaker 6: we went there and he's a film guy, and you know,
- 1:11:09Speaker 6: world class film guy who actually wanted Sundance, really brilliant filmmaker.
- 1:11:14Speaker 6: And I was like, take this picture, take that picture.
- 1:11:17Speaker 6: And at one point he just put his hand on
- 1:11:19Speaker 6: me and he goes, Tom, some things aren't meant to
- 1:11:22Speaker 6: be captured. He said, why don't you just enjoy it?
- 1:11:27Speaker 6: And I'll never forget that lesson. But there's something different,
- 1:11:30Speaker 6: though about our kids and their neurology that we have
- 1:11:34Speaker 6: ushered in this sense of hyper reality. And there's a
- 1:11:39Speaker 6: lot to be said about this, and this is very,
- 1:11:42Speaker 6: very deep, that we have constructed a different reality for
- 1:11:47Speaker 6: them in their brains and they've attached to this you know,
- 1:11:53Speaker 6: cosmological or this universal consciousness. And I don't want to
- 1:12:00Speaker 6: get too weird on you, because I can get very
- 1:12:02Speaker 6: weird with this kind of stuff, because most of my
- 1:12:04Speaker 6: recreational reading is around this kind of stuff. But because
- 1:12:09Speaker 6: we've propelled them into this world, this hyper real world,
- 1:12:13Speaker 6: the real world isn't real to them. If you if
- 1:12:19Speaker 6: a dinosaur was outside right now, you and I might
- 1:12:23Speaker 6: be in awe for them. They'd probably be disappointed because
- 1:12:31Speaker 6: of the world that they live in, because the Tyrannosaurus
- 1:12:35Speaker 6: is supposed to act like it is on Jurassic Park.
- 1:12:39Speaker 6: It's not supposed to run around the side of the
- 1:12:41Speaker 6: building and hide. So yeah, I appreciate what you say,
- 1:12:48Speaker 6: but at some level it confuses me because this regular
- 1:12:53Speaker 6: world is boring and that's pretty scary, to be honest
- 1:12:57Speaker 6: with you, For me, that reality is boring to them,
- 1:13:03Speaker 6: and you want her to experience the graffiti. And I'm
- 1:13:06Speaker 6: not trying to push back on you to experience that, like,
- 1:13:10Speaker 6: because your reality was tied to those things when you
- 1:13:14Speaker 6: were a little boy from Vermont or wherever, and you
- 1:13:16Speaker 6: went to the big city and Chary I had the
- 1:13:18Speaker 6: reverse of that. I was born and raised in Philadelphia.
- 1:13:21Speaker 6: I remember moving and sitting in my classroom in third
- 1:13:23Speaker 6: or fourth grade and looking at these kids and being like,
- 1:13:26Speaker 6: I literally thought this, and can remember this thought. Sure,
- 1:13:31Speaker 6: these acs had no idea what life is really like.
- 1:13:34Speaker 6: But when I saw my first cow, when I got
- 1:13:37Speaker 6: to pull up this fish out of the stream, I
- 1:13:39Speaker 6: was like, oh my god, what is this. So it's
- 1:13:43Speaker 6: really interesting, man, the collision and and and the scary
- 1:13:48Speaker 6: part is, dude, when your generation and my generation are gone.
- 1:13:52Speaker 6: We got one generation. How we started this podcast. Who
- 1:13:55Speaker 6: has seen a glimpse of it? What happens when that
- 1:13:59Speaker 6: generation's gone? Yeah, but you know who talked about this.
- 1:14:04Speaker 6: This is fascinating, This is mind blowing. I'll make this short.
- 1:14:09Speaker 6: This is what Huxley talked about in Brave New World.
- 1:14:12Speaker 6: I don't know if you ever read it. So in
- 1:14:13Speaker 6: the future, it's this hype. You wrote this in the thirties, bro, Like,
- 1:14:18Speaker 6: this is mind blowing. Like he must add a time
- 1:14:21Speaker 6: machine him, him and orwell must have had some kind
- 1:14:23Speaker 6: of time machine. I could go off on Fahrenheit but
- 1:14:27Speaker 6: but think about this in Brave New World. If you
- 1:14:31Speaker 6: don't know the book, it's increa dude. You should read
- 1:14:35Speaker 6: it or listen to it. It'll blow your fricking mind.
- 1:14:39Speaker 6: In the future, they go to reservations to watch the
- 1:14:42Speaker 6: natives because they live in this hyper realized world where
- 1:14:47Speaker 6: they live on soma, which is a drug. I think
- 1:14:53Speaker 6: it's basically THHC today, but they live on this stuff
- 1:14:58Speaker 6: to deal with their anxiety every time, and you get
- 1:15:01Speaker 6: paid I think in soma. But they desensitize themselves to death.
- 1:15:07Speaker 6: They let little kids go in and crawl on people
- 1:15:09Speaker 6: that are dying, and so yeah, it's death is death
- 1:15:12Speaker 6: is is a sense of awe, it's a sense of wonder,
- 1:15:15Speaker 6: like what's next after that? But what happens, though, is
- 1:15:20Speaker 6: they go to this reservation. They bring this guy John
- 1:15:23Speaker 6: back into their world from the reservation. By the end
- 1:15:28Speaker 6: of the book, John's living in this world and he
- 1:15:33Speaker 6: can't handle this hyper realized world. And you know how
- 1:15:36Speaker 6: the book ends, he hangs himself. Wow wow, because he
- 1:15:46Speaker 6: can't live in this hyper realized world. Think about that.
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: Damn.
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: Yeah. And that was written in the thirties.
- 1:15:55Speaker 6: Thirties or thirty two or something. That was his story writer.
- 1:15:58Speaker 6: Oh no, actually, don't want to go down that rabbit hole.
- 1:16:03Speaker 6: Goose bumps, man, goose bumps, dude, goose bumps.
- 1:16:08Speaker 7: Inversely, I bet the hyper realized people couldn't live in
- 1:16:10Speaker 7: the natives the world either.
- 1:16:11Speaker 6: Though they wanted to. Though, it's like kids today, like
- 1:16:14Speaker 6: they want to, they want to feel that, but they're
- 1:16:18Speaker 6: kind of some of them are just disappointed with it
- 1:16:21Speaker 6: the real world. Can you imagine being disappointed with the
- 1:16:24Speaker 6: real world and the senses you were designed. You were
- 1:16:29Speaker 6: you were built for your senses to interact with the
- 1:16:33Speaker 6: real world. Yeah, and now like they're not and now
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: you're putting on VR and other things like that.
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: Man, video video games. Man, we could go down a
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: couple of rapps.
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:16:50Speaker 6: Video game one is another very very easy discussion.
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: To wrap this morning. Yeah, tell us what's tell our
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: listeners what to expect on Wednesdays going forward here, Well,
- 1:17:05Speaker 1: and we're going to change it up.
- 1:17:06Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not gonna get to listen to
- 1:17:08Speaker 6: Tom and his philosophy.
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: I would like to come to one of these schools too.
- 1:17:12Speaker 6: Oh dude, you should. It'll blow It'll blow your mind.
- 1:17:15Speaker 6: Our K two we have to do that. Our K
- 1:17:17Speaker 6: two are three to five. The most important work that
- 1:17:19Speaker 6: we do, hands down our middle high school level. You
- 1:17:24Speaker 6: won't even know what hits you when you leave the auditorium.
- 1:17:26Speaker 6: Thirty forty year educators have said for a decade, I've
- 1:17:30Speaker 6: never seen anything like this. Most important work we do
- 1:17:33Speaker 6: is the elementary work. I'd say the most important work
- 1:17:35Speaker 6: we do now is training students to present this message.
- 1:17:39Speaker 6: Yeah right, this elementary message. Because you know things like
- 1:17:42Speaker 6: fire drills, stop, drop and roll. You'd never teach it
- 1:17:46Speaker 6: to a high school kid. Yeah, you teach those skills
- 1:17:50Speaker 6: or that skill set to younger kids. So we we
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: train young kids in real actionable skills that they can
- 1:17:58Speaker 6: use on the playground, and then we practice them. And
- 1:18:01Speaker 6: that's really what has separated us from everyone else is
- 1:18:04Speaker 6: we roll play with socio dramatic play is what it is,
- 1:18:07Speaker 6: and that codes in the brain differently than There's a
- 1:18:11Speaker 6: lot to say about that. But what do you expect
- 1:18:13Speaker 6: from this? Number one? I expect every time to give
- 1:18:17Speaker 6: credit to these dealers that have brought us to your
- 1:18:19Speaker 6: wonderful state. Nothing more important there because it would happen
- 1:18:23Speaker 6: without them, with these little rural schools in Vermont. But
- 1:18:28Speaker 6: number two, we hope that bring a different team member.
- 1:18:31Speaker 6: We'll bring Pat fish on. We'll bring the great rick
- 1:18:34Speaker 6: yarish On, the great one, the world's hope expert.
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: Will that be pay per view?
- 1:18:39Speaker 6: Pay per view? Geez, you've got to buy some popcorn
- 1:18:42Speaker 6: for that one. Actually, I went to the movie theaters
- 1:18:45Speaker 6: with him once. You won't believe what movie I went
- 1:18:47Speaker 6: to the movie theater. I spend more time with Rick
- 1:18:49Speaker 6: than my wife, more anniversaries with him than my wife,
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: that's a true story. Two hundred and twenty days in
- 1:18:55Speaker 6: the year with him for ten years, almost went to
- 1:18:58Speaker 6: the movie theaters with him once he brought a service dog.
- 1:19:02Speaker 6: It was a disaster. You know what movie we went
- 1:19:03Speaker 6: and saw. I'll give you one hundred dollars if you
- 1:19:05Speaker 6: can tell.
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: Me Harry Potter. No, uh, Saving Private Rynd.
- 1:19:10Speaker 6: No, that wasn't in the theaters.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: Titanic. Oh god, I have no idea three D tic dude,
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: it was crazy.
- 1:19:21Speaker 6: I don't really go to the movies. I'm not a
- 1:19:23Speaker 6: movie watcher.
- 1:19:25Speaker 7: It.
- 1:19:27Speaker 6: He looks like he came out of it. Now. I'm
- 1:19:31Speaker 6: not saying that to be disrespectful. Rick has no PTSD,
- 1:19:35Speaker 6: greatest sense of humor ever. But can you imagine coming
- 1:19:38Speaker 6: into the movie late and Rick is so funny because
- 1:19:41Speaker 6: he's on his phone because he doesn't want to sit
- 1:19:43Speaker 6: in here anyone because he's got his dog there. Yeah,
- 1:19:45Speaker 6: and he's so funny to watch because his hands are
- 1:19:47Speaker 6: kind of his hands are melted together. Yeah, but he's
- 1:19:49Speaker 6: got a little pincher. He's not still listening, is he?
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: I think he is.
- 1:19:54Speaker 6: Oh, well, we'll find out. But anyway, he's got one hand.
- 1:19:58Speaker 6: He's got a little pincher. Said that before. He's gonna
- 1:20:01Speaker 6: be so upset with me, but he'll grab one kernel
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: at a time. When the lights go off, it's like
- 1:20:06Speaker 6: popcorns flying. It's great. But can you imagine coming in
- 1:20:11Speaker 6: late and you walk there, and you walk over and
- 1:20:15Speaker 6: and you you sit down and you don't realize so
- 1:20:18Speaker 6: you sit next to and you're like whoa and you're.
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: An it like it's like, oh man, anyway, only these
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: guys can can do this. I mean I could never
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: take a swing at Rick, dude.
- 1:20:31Speaker 6: And that's not true, dude, chemistry.
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: Listen, man, we're being asked, will you guys make it
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: to Burry City Elementary and Middle School?
- 1:20:40Speaker 6: I sure hope we will. That We just re upped
- 1:20:43Speaker 6: with our friends, the Chevy group, so they're going to
- 1:20:47Speaker 6: do another year with us, and I would love for
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: them just to send me a note because what we
- 1:20:52Speaker 6: what we what we did yesterday? Benson brought three elementaries together,
- 1:20:58Speaker 6: Benson Chevrolet. Yeah, like we were in Ludlow where we
- 1:21:02Speaker 6: were you know, dude, this was crazy. We were in
- 1:21:04Speaker 6: Ludlow in like twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen.
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: Yeah, they brought a couple of schools in.
- 1:21:10Speaker 6: Yeah, but we were there in twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen,
- 1:21:12Speaker 6: just for Ludlow, but this time we went back to
- 1:21:17Speaker 6: the elementary and they brought two other schools there. So
- 1:21:21Speaker 6: what we're doing with the Chevy group, which is kind
- 1:21:23Speaker 6: of new, is we're hitting elementaries and we're going to
- 1:21:27Speaker 6: bring the elementary more elementary schools together under one roof,
- 1:21:31Speaker 6: so we can just hit more schools. So I would
- 1:21:34Speaker 6: ask this person, this individual, just to send us to
- 1:21:36Speaker 6: go to Sweethearts and Heroes dot com and direct that too. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:21:41Speaker 6: get it to us, and I'll make sure we put
- 1:21:43Speaker 6: them on the list. Because here's one of the craziest things,
- 1:21:46Speaker 6: though I'll leave it unmentioned, but we were in another
- 1:21:49Speaker 6: Vermont school not too far from here, one of the
- 1:21:52Speaker 6: best schools ever, and I know the principal, and I said, dude,
- 1:21:58Speaker 6: you get two days with this dealership. Call your middle school,
- 1:22:02Speaker 6: your high school. They said, no, thanks, completely paid for
- 1:22:07Speaker 6: by the dealership. So we just went to the elementary.
- 1:22:10Speaker 6: So I'd love to think we're going to go to
- 1:22:12Speaker 6: that school, but if the administration doesn't want us, and
- 1:22:16Speaker 6: I guarantee you we'll be back at that middle and
- 1:22:20Speaker 6: high school that said no thanks next year. Because when
- 1:22:23Speaker 6: you hear what we've never advertised one day, because when
- 1:22:28Speaker 6: we go to an area and one person sees it,
- 1:22:31Speaker 6: they're like, like, the Ledlowe police chief was there yesterday,
- 1:22:34Speaker 6: He's brand new. He was mind was blown, a former
- 1:22:37Speaker 6: marine police chief. Yeah, there was an organization there that
- 1:22:41Speaker 6: a substance abuse organization. The lady was like, what just happened?
- 1:22:45Speaker 6: So just tell him to send a note to us
- 1:22:48Speaker 6: and I'll make sure. I asked the dealer if that
- 1:22:51Speaker 6: could be one of the schools. Next year, we pulled together.
- 1:22:54Speaker 1: Orange Center School just up the road here, I mean
- 1:22:59Speaker 1: Washington Village School. I mean, you've Knewberry was just not
- 1:23:03Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, I think, right.
- 1:23:06Speaker 6: If you go to our website at the bottom, there's
- 1:23:08Speaker 6: a map. Unfortunately, I don't think I started until twenty fifteen.
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:23:14Speaker 6: And you can see probably five hundred schools that we've
- 1:23:18Speaker 6: been in on that map.
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: That's amazing.
- 1:23:20Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, But just to go back to what we
- 1:23:23Speaker 6: were saying here, we hope to have a different team
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: member give you a different angle, different glimpse. Won't be
- 1:23:29Speaker 6: this long. We'll have ones where maybe we can come
- 1:23:32Speaker 6: back down here. Most of them will be remote, but
- 1:23:35Speaker 6: we'll get rick on here and really what I'm most
- 1:23:39Speaker 6: excited about Leon, a guy that spent time like you
- 1:23:44Speaker 6: and the press for twenty five years in Vermont. And
- 1:23:51Speaker 6: it's the other thing too about Vermont. You know, we
- 1:23:54Speaker 6: could legislatively really make an impact. And I've reached out
- 1:24:01Speaker 6: to several legislators. And this is not a diss I
- 1:24:03Speaker 6: just saw Senator who's going to call him Congressman Senator
- 1:24:08Speaker 6: Welch because.
- 1:24:09Speaker 4: I know him.
- 1:24:10Speaker 6: I did a face off with him once you did,
- 1:24:12Speaker 6: yeah yeah, in front of a restaurant. I got a
- 1:24:14Speaker 6: picture of it. But I just saw him in the airport,
- 1:24:16Speaker 6: uh last week and we were going to Miami, UH
- 1:24:20Speaker 6: to do a film shoot and UH and I sat down,
- 1:24:23Speaker 6: I got a chance to talk to him about this issue.
- 1:24:25Speaker 6: And and this isn't anything that I would criticize him on,
- 1:24:28Speaker 6: but when I gave him some of the stats on
- 1:24:31Speaker 6: you know, especially the destructive decisions young people are making
- 1:24:36Speaker 6: in America today, he was just like and and and
- 1:24:39Speaker 6: again this isn't to criticize, but I'm just thinking, you know,
- 1:24:43Speaker 6: there's nothing more important than our young people in the
- 1:24:45Speaker 6: world today. You can always judge a society by how
- 1:24:48Speaker 6: it treats the young people. I mean, for all of
- 1:24:49Speaker 6: human history and for him to not know that, or
- 1:24:54Speaker 6: for someone on his team not to bring this to
- 1:24:57Speaker 6: his attention. Yeah, two kids yesterday and Ginia or this
- 1:25:00Speaker 6: week in Virginia. I mean sweeping the country. Sure, and
- 1:25:04Speaker 6: it's not just Rick and I are going to des Moines,
- 1:25:07Speaker 6: Iowa and made it present alignment. You know what the
- 1:25:11Speaker 6: I know you want to wrap this up, but the
- 1:25:14Speaker 6: general suicide rate in America is anywhere between ten and
- 1:25:17Speaker 6: fourteen per hundred thousand. We've been to Camp Pendleton the
- 1:25:21Speaker 6: last two years. Marines are at thirty four point nine
- 1:25:24Speaker 6: per one hundred thousand, thirty four point nine per hundred thousand.
- 1:25:28Speaker 6: Our children are reaching the general suicide rate, which it
- 1:25:32Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense.
- 1:25:34Speaker 1: It's it's pretty much when I was a kid, if
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: somebody took their their life late teens twenties, that was
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: considered extremely young.
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and you probably only heard about one time
- 1:25:50Speaker 6: your whole life. Yeah, there's not a kid today that
- 1:25:52Speaker 6: doesn't know someone that's attempted. But there's between a half
- 1:25:55Speaker 6: a million and a million attempts in children now it's ten.
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: I wouldn't even woudn't even know how to take my life.
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy.
- 1:26:04Speaker 6: I'm talking to I've been talking to Sam Tooys in
- 1:26:07Speaker 6: Indiana right now, and his nine year old took his
- 1:26:10Speaker 6: own life and it's very public's it's getting some press legislatively,
- 1:26:16Speaker 6: but Alignment Reck and I are going to talk to
- 1:26:19Speaker 6: some Alignment. I was going to turn it down last year,
- 1:26:21Speaker 6: but when I looked at the data, electrical contractors are
- 1:26:25Speaker 6: somewhere between fifty two to sixty eight per one hundred thousand,
- 1:26:33Speaker 6: and that means the lignemen that work in the state
- 1:26:35Speaker 6: of Vermont. So this is not an issue that's just
- 1:26:39Speaker 6: about young people. We have a we have a true epidemic, pandemic,
- 1:26:47Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it, of hopelessness and despair
- 1:26:49Speaker 6: in this country and we're not talking about it. So
- 1:26:52Speaker 6: I would just say that legislatively it would be great.
- 1:26:55Speaker 6: You know, maybe we could even get you know, your
- 1:26:56Speaker 6: local rep on here, but we really want to take
- 1:27:00Speaker 6: to get a few parents on here. Yeah, they have
- 1:27:02Speaker 6: seen our work, that have felt our work. My number
- 1:27:04Speaker 6: one compliment is when a parent calls me. I have
- 1:27:07Speaker 6: hundreds of these emails, hundreds. My kid and I never talked.
- 1:27:11Speaker 6: They came home. They wouldn't stop talking about what happened today.
- 1:27:15Speaker 6: Those stories need to be told. We should ask a
- 1:27:21Speaker 6: couple of things. Number One, thank a Chevy dealer for
- 1:27:30Speaker 6: backing you guys up, no matter who they are.
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: Reach out to them and say post on their social
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: media thank you for supporting the mission behind sweetheartscen hearrooes. Also,
- 1:27:42Speaker 1: we should say, take this episode and send it to
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: someone who can use it productively, whether it's at a school,
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: whether it's in the legislature. Share this episode and every Wednesday.
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love to see I would love to
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: see you, guys Garner some more attention under the Golden
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: Dome be great. I'd love to get involved with that
- 1:28:09Speaker 1: in some way, either on the air, off the air,
- 1:28:12Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't matter. But there's a lot of
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: you under you understand. And I've said to you before,
- 1:28:19Speaker 1: Tom Man, you guys have done some great things and
- 1:28:22Speaker 1: you're like, dude, we have so much more work in
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: front of us. This is your legacy, this really is.
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: This is who you are, and you've you've teamed up
- 1:28:34Speaker 1: with people who share that yeah passion with you. And
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: if it just embrace that that mission. This guy sitting
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: right next to you is one of several.
- 1:28:46Speaker 6: I just said it, but you saw my face get
- 1:28:48Speaker 6: a little. I don't want this to be my legacy,
- 1:28:52Speaker 6: really me, I don't want my name to be at
- 1:28:55Speaker 6: the end of the day. I want the I want
- 1:29:00Speaker 6: the words sweethearts and heroes because that's the solution. That's
- 1:29:05Speaker 6: a whole episode in itself. What sweethearts and heroes are?
- 1:29:08Speaker 6: Like what a weird word?
- 1:29:10Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:29:10Speaker 6: What is that? Let's close out with what why don't
- 1:29:14Speaker 6: you know what a.
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: Sweethearts and heroes?
- 1:29:18Speaker 6: Yeah? Well that's the thing. I mean, I I for
- 1:29:20Speaker 6: years people have said, you got to change the name.
- 1:29:22Speaker 6: You gotta change the name. It doesn't make sense. I
- 1:29:23Speaker 6: was just in the school last week. They're like, this
- 1:29:25Speaker 6: is like you're them the hugs or hearts and heroes people,
- 1:29:29Speaker 6: And I was like, no, sweethearts and heroes. And so
- 1:29:32Speaker 6: when I asked to do that initial bullying, this part
- 1:29:35Speaker 6: of the origin story, and once I tell people this, like, oh,
- 1:29:38Speaker 6: you can't change the name, I'm like, I know, but
- 1:29:43Speaker 6: I got asked to do this thing on bullying. It
- 1:29:46Speaker 6: was never a bully, never really bullied, just on the outside.
- 1:29:50Speaker 6: It was a bystander, and you know, and that's what
- 1:29:52Speaker 6: the message has been about. From day one, empowering young
- 1:29:55Speaker 6: people to be the change within their peer network, and
- 1:29:58Speaker 6: and and that didn't come initially. What came initially was
- 1:30:02Speaker 6: I was a horrible student, so I had to have
- 1:30:05Speaker 6: a dictionary in college to learn rudimentary, simple things.
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: Okay, still have it.
- 1:30:12Speaker 6: Every time I look a word up, i'd put a
- 1:30:13Speaker 6: checkmark next to it. When it got three or four,
- 1:30:16Speaker 6: five check marks next to one, I'm like, man, I
- 1:30:17Speaker 6: really am not that smart. But anyway, my buddy called me, said,
- 1:30:22Speaker 6: can you do something on bullying. I was already doing
- 1:30:24Speaker 6: some stuff on leadership motivation kind of stuff. Open the
- 1:30:29Speaker 6: dictionary the word bully, word origin, sweetheart.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: Interesting, I know. And I was like, what is this?
- 1:30:39Speaker 6: And I'm always trying to look at things from a
- 1:30:41Speaker 6: different angle. I'd like to shock people sometimes, like that's
- 1:30:45Speaker 6: how we start this whole That's how we started this
- 1:30:47Speaker 6: whole thing. Yeah, I was going to play. I competed
- 1:30:51Speaker 6: professionally in mixed martial arts a little bit, and I
- 1:30:53Speaker 6: was gonna I was gonna be in front of nine
- 1:30:55Speaker 6: hundred savages. And when I say savages, I mean savage
- 1:31:00Speaker 6: is yeah, middle schoolers. Nobody harder to present in front
- 1:31:03Speaker 6: of them. High schoolers will tune you out. Little kids,
- 1:31:05Speaker 6: you can do whatever you want, they'll love it. Middle schoolers,
- 1:31:09Speaker 6: you ain't got them hooked, they'll ruin you. So I
- 1:31:11Speaker 6: would played a minute of me competing in a cage,
- 1:31:14Speaker 6: run out on stage, tell them how much I hate fighting.
- 1:31:17Speaker 6: They're like, what, that doesn't make any sense. But that
- 1:31:21Speaker 6: was my hook got him interested. Trusted messenger kind of thing.
- 1:31:27Speaker 6: Scare them, so if they fool around, I'm gonna smash them,
- 1:31:29Speaker 6: crash them, of course. But just the kids are like, well,
- 1:31:32Speaker 6: we can watch this kind of stuff in school, and
- 1:31:35Speaker 6: just before they all had cell phones in school and anyway.
- 1:31:38Speaker 6: So but then I was going to say, the only
- 1:31:40Speaker 6: reason I could get into that cage was because of
- 1:31:44Speaker 6: your gym teacher, because I wrestled with him in college.
- 1:31:47Speaker 6: He was bigger than me, stronger than me, shoved me
- 1:31:49Speaker 6: around the room, he bullied me, because that's what a
- 1:31:53Speaker 6: sixteenth century bully did. The word origin. You bullied someone
- 1:31:57Speaker 6: to make them better, stronger, faster, smart. But what the
- 1:32:01Speaker 6: person was really giving you was hope when you needed it,
- 1:32:04Speaker 6: when you didn't think you could do something. They saw
- 1:32:07Speaker 6: your potential and they pushed you, and you know about
- 1:32:11Speaker 6: one hundred years ago later, the word was literally perverted
- 1:32:15Speaker 6: pimps with bully John's for their sweethearts or their girls,
- 1:32:18Speaker 6: and that's where we get the modern definition harassmer of
- 1:32:20Speaker 6: the week. But the original origin of the word was sweetheart.
- 1:32:26Speaker 6: And so what we did from day one was understood
- 1:32:30Speaker 6: that young people all carry hope. Rick got hope from
- 1:32:33Speaker 6: a five year old little girl saved his life probably
- 1:32:38Speaker 6: and gave it to him beautiful story. And what we
- 1:32:41Speaker 6: realized was all the kids in that auditorium are the
- 1:32:45Speaker 6: solution because they carry hope through the hallways, but they
- 1:32:48Speaker 6: have to make the choice to give that hope. So
- 1:32:51Speaker 6: when you tell someone about a sweetheart, like oh no,
- 1:32:54Speaker 6: you can't change it. So that's why it's sweethearts and heroes.
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: It's incredible. Hopefully we're gonna get some more schools outed
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: to the list here. I am so excited about our
- 1:33:09Speaker 1: partnership together, taking what you've what you've already done, and
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: just bringing it to the airt out audience and helping
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: to spread the greatness that you guys are doing.
- 1:33:26Speaker 6: Well. I'm thankful for you man, And someday we're going
- 1:33:28Speaker 6: to have our conversation on air about one of the
- 1:33:34Speaker 6: most beautiful things I ever saw, and I won't mention it, okay,
- 1:33:38Speaker 6: But out back in this parking lot the last time
- 1:33:40Speaker 6: I came to the studio. Wow, and we're going to
- 1:33:42Speaker 6: have a conversation. And that's honestly, JD. It's the only
- 1:33:46Speaker 6: reason I'm here. And I know you're even struggling a
- 1:33:48Speaker 6: little bit, but the reason that I'm here today is
- 1:33:53Speaker 6: because of what I saw when I pulled in last
- 1:33:55Speaker 6: time I was here with you in the parking lot. Wow,
- 1:33:59Speaker 6: we're gonna talk about that.
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: Okay, Man, I'm ready, all right, Thank you boys, you
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: so much. I don't know who's coming in next next Wednesday,
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I'm looking forward to whoever it is,
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: whether it's Leon or whoever. I'm just so excited. Sweethearts
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: and heroes, you guys are. You're crushing it.
- 1:34:22Speaker 6: Man, you're crushing one student at a time.
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: Doing an outstanding job. Love you both, and I look
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: forward to next Wednesday already. Thanks guys.
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: Uh about that happened?
- 1:35:39Speaker 3: Another up a apen I spent at st exta steps
- 1:36:07Speaker 3: see and in the stems and says STANDSTI