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- 0:00Speaker 1: The talk station.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Eight thirty on this Wednesday morning, Dan Carroll in for
- 0:09Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. Brian is back tomorrow. Glad to be here,
- 0:14Speaker 2: Glad you are here as well, and always glad when
- 0:16Speaker 2: I get a chance to talk with Corey Bowman, the
- 0:19Speaker 2: man who would have been mayor should have been mayor,
- 0:21Speaker 2: and the man I like to call the man in
- 0:23Speaker 2: the arena, Cory Bowman. How you doing today?
- 0:27Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Dan, Great to be on. I'm still
- 0:29Speaker 1: trying to be in the arena.
- 0:33Speaker 2: You do what you can, my friend, and you're doing
- 0:36Speaker 2: You're doing great. How's everything at the church.
- 0:39Speaker 3: It's going great.
- 0:40Speaker 1: We are going to be celebrating our Father's Day Sunday
- 0:43Speaker 1: this week. We usually give a free gift to all
- 0:46Speaker 1: fathers coming in. And yes, it's gonna be a great
- 0:49Speaker 1: It's gonna be a great time.
- 0:50Speaker 2: That is fantastic. Let me let me get your take
- 0:53Speaker 2: on the report that came out about racial disparity. I mean,
- 0:59Speaker 2: and Joe has got Joe put the whole report in
- 1:01Speaker 2: front of me today and I've got all what forty
- 1:04Speaker 2: five pages right here and campaign zero that we can
- 1:09Speaker 2: live in a world beyond policing. What is that when
- 1:11Speaker 2: you see that that notion that we can live in
- 1:14Speaker 2: a world beyond policing. What does that say to you?
- 1:20Speaker 1: I believe it's just you know, from my opinion, it
- 1:23Speaker 1: sounds like something my toddler would say if he didn't
- 1:26Speaker 1: if you want to play his video games all day.
- 1:32Speaker 1: You know, I've got an eight year old, a six
- 1:34Speaker 1: year old, a four year old, and a about one
- 1:37Speaker 1: year old, and you know they don't like the dad
- 1:40Speaker 1: policing that happens in the house, but it doesn't matter.
- 1:43Speaker 3: It's got to happen to create some order in the house.
- 1:46Speaker 1: So the biggest thing I.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Would probably say about this report.
- 1:50Speaker 1: We were actually at a roundtable yesterday with Thomaston, Warren
- 1:54Speaker 1: Davidson and several other representatives from public safety, which I
- 1:59Speaker 1: mean people on both sides. We were just kind of
- 2:01Speaker 1: talking and you know, there's there's a lot of different
- 2:06Speaker 1: things to consider when it comes of public safety, but
- 2:09Speaker 1: I think the ultimate thing is you got to get
- 2:11Speaker 1: criminals off the streets and you've got to support your
- 2:13Speaker 1: local policing. Obviously, there's things that need to happen to
- 2:17Speaker 1: create accountability. That's why we have accrediting when it comes
- 2:22Speaker 1: to the police force. The Ohio State Public Safety offers
- 2:26Speaker 1: a free accrediting to all state law enforcement officers or
- 2:31Speaker 1: all agencies, and then nationally you've got accreditation through KALIA
- 2:36Speaker 1: and other organizations as well. This accreditation helps keep accountability
- 2:41Speaker 1: and transparency a lot of the things that are included
- 2:44Speaker 1: in you know, things that in Cincinnati we say, like
- 2:47Speaker 1: the Collaborative Agreement and other things that prevent racial bias
- 2:52Speaker 1: and things that are happening this organization that came in
- 2:56Speaker 1: the first thing I did was look at the background
- 2:58Speaker 1: of it, because if somebody comes in says, hey, this
- 3:00Speaker 1: is what's happening, is there going to be political motives
- 3:04Speaker 1: to it? And when I looked at it, it says
- 3:06Speaker 1: that they're tied in with Black Lives Matter, which we've
- 3:09Speaker 1: seen in retrospect that the organizers of this organization they've
- 3:13Speaker 1: wasted donations on their own million dollar mansions and they
- 3:17Speaker 1: haven't put the money toward the community that they said
- 3:19Speaker 1: they represent. And I'll tell you this right now, pastoring
- 3:22Speaker 1: the inner city, inner city residents are very frustrated with
- 3:26Speaker 1: organizations like this. But then also looking at the motives
- 3:30Speaker 1: of the report, I mean, I would ask you if
- 3:33Speaker 1: the KKK came out with the report, and that report
- 3:37Speaker 1: said that all black people are criminals. How much credibility
- 3:42Speaker 1: would you give that report? And that's what I'm seeing
- 3:45Speaker 1: right now is there's a lot of bias, and if
- 3:47Speaker 1: they look for something, they're going to cherry pick a
- 3:49Speaker 1: lot of things in order to find whatever results they want.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I think that ultimately, the police, when it comes to accreditation,
- 3:58Speaker 1: when it comes to all the third party accounts ability
- 4:00Speaker 1: that they already have in place, obviously, always look at
- 4:03Speaker 1: those situations. Always look at those things to make sure
- 4:06Speaker 1: that your officers are adhering to that and making it better.
- 4:09Speaker 1: But I would be very hesitant to look at this
- 4:13Speaker 1: report and see it as a completely unbiased report.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Yeah. I was talking to Ken Kober about this a
- 4:19Speaker 2: little while ago, and and he, like I, we're both
- 4:24Speaker 2: glad to see that. Apparently there doesn't seem much of
- 4:27Speaker 2: an appetite on behalf of city council to to bite
- 4:32Speaker 2: on this report, to take this and run with it
- 4:35Speaker 2: and talk about, hey, we need to you know, we
- 4:37Speaker 2: need to start having meetings, we got to have reforms,
- 4:40Speaker 2: we got to start firing people. Nothing like that has happened,
- 4:43Speaker 2: so thankfully, it appears Corey Bowman that that there's not
- 4:48Speaker 2: an overreaction to this, which I quite frankly find a
- 4:53Speaker 2: little refreshing that that has that he really has not developed.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that that all said from where
- 5:00Speaker 1: the report came from, and if you go back to
- 5:03Speaker 1: the background of this organization, then you kind of realize, Hey,
- 5:07Speaker 1: there's a lot of bias to this. Doesn't mean that
- 5:10Speaker 1: we don't need to be accountable, doesn't mean that we
- 5:12Speaker 1: don't need to keep officers accountable toward issues such as this.
- 5:16Speaker 1: But this report itself, I think it's just falling flat
- 5:19Speaker 1: because of the background of where it's coming from.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Very good. I love that response, Corey Bowman, stay right there.
- 5:25Speaker 2: We got to get to a quick break and we'll
- 5:27Speaker 2: have more with Corey Bowman, the man in the arena
- 5:29Speaker 2: on the other side of this. On fifty five KRC,
- 5:31Speaker 2: the talk station Father's Day Weekend, Dad's shoot Station fifty
- 5:42Speaker 2: five KRC, the talk station eight forty on this Wednesday morning,
- 5:45Speaker 2: we are chatting with Corey Bowman, the man who would
- 5:50Speaker 2: have been mayor, and Corey Bowman. Cincinnati City Council is
- 5:53Speaker 2: going to take its final vote today on the budget
- 5:56Speaker 2: that includes two million dollars for the Farmer Music Center. Well,
- 6:00Speaker 2: I guess you're you're glad about that that we're we
- 6:03Speaker 2: found two million dollars to send to the new music
- 6:06Speaker 2: venue down there at Coney Island.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Yeah, just trying to figure out where they found it from.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Still, you know, there's a lot of drawers down there
- 6:14Speaker 2: at City Hall and people stuff money in them. You know,
- 6:20Speaker 2: they look they you know, they they look in a
- 6:22Speaker 2: dword and say, oh, look at what's in here. They
- 6:24Speaker 2: found some money. It's amazing how that worked.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, obviously, we ran a race for mayor
- 6:30Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and one of the biggest things that we
- 6:32Speaker 1: had to run on was the budget. And you know,
- 6:35Speaker 1: I'd like to tell people that when it comes to
- 6:38Speaker 1: whether it be personal finances, business find finances, nonprofit finances,
- 6:43Speaker 1: no budget is perfect. It's about reworking and making sure
- 6:46Speaker 1: that your principles and your priorities are first. And you know,
- 6:52Speaker 1: am I extremely mad that there's a music center going in,
- 6:55Speaker 1: or that they're considering new stadiums, or they're considering all
- 6:58Speaker 1: this new improvement to absolutely not. We love Cincinnati, it's
- 7:02Speaker 1: our home. But when it comes to the city budget,
- 7:04Speaker 1: the more that we dived into we realized that the.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Principles and the priorities need to be readjusted.
- 7:11Speaker 1: What I mean by that is that when you look
- 7:13Speaker 1: at your let's say your family budget, and you're saying, hey,
- 7:16Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to go bungee jumping this Saturday,
- 7:20Speaker 1: but we won't have food on.
- 7:23Speaker 3: The table for the next three days.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it'd be nice to go bungee jumping, but
- 7:27Speaker 1: the kids need food for the next three days. So
- 7:30Speaker 1: your priorities is what keeps you in line and making
- 7:33Speaker 1: sure that you're not spending money in areas that you
- 7:35Speaker 1: shouldn't before you reach things like let's say infrastructure like roads,
- 7:41Speaker 1: like when it comes to making sure that the money
- 7:44Speaker 1: is going to the right places. With law enforcement and
- 7:46Speaker 1: the fire department, you know, we're still if the numbers
- 7:49Speaker 1: are still the same, we're at sixty four percent of
- 7:52Speaker 1: our fire trucks either need replaced or repaired. When it
- 7:57Speaker 1: comes to a lot of different equipment issues. When it
- 8:00Speaker 1: comes to our tactical teams with Cincinnati Police, we've seen
- 8:04Speaker 1: that they get denied for a lot of requests. So
- 8:07Speaker 1: these are just things that I feel like the priorities
- 8:10Speaker 1: of the budget need to be there first, and I
- 8:12Speaker 1: don't believe a lot of people at city Hall have
- 8:14Speaker 1: those priorities. Their priorities kind of lie in a lot
- 8:18Speaker 1: of other areas, whether it be with affordable housing or
- 8:21Speaker 1: whether it be with other things that I think that
- 8:24Speaker 1: your city services need to kind of be reprioritized.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe there's about a thirty million dollars
- 8:31Speaker 2: shortfall that the city has as well, and I don't
- 8:35Speaker 2: see that really being addressed in a meaningful way here.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Yeah, You've got a lot of things that from a
- 8:41Speaker 3: long term perspective, we need to figure out.
- 8:44Speaker 1: You know, let's look at the pension fund, let's look
- 8:46Speaker 1: at and then also the way that the railroad funds are.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Being spent is a full never debacle.
- 8:51Speaker 1: There, because the thing is that everybody voted under the
- 8:55Speaker 1: guise of, hey, we have the capacity of using these
- 8:58Speaker 1: funds through the trust which they're investing.
- 9:02Speaker 3: We get dividends from that, we're going to get payments
- 9:05Speaker 3: from the.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Interest on that to be able to spend to fix
- 9:07Speaker 1: our roads at a rapid pace. This was never meant
- 9:10Speaker 1: to be a shell game to where we use those
- 9:13Speaker 1: funds out instead of certain allocated funds for the budget.
- 9:18Speaker 1: And then also what we're seeing is that we don't
- 9:20Speaker 1: have the capacity to spend it. If you gave city
- 9:23Speaker 1: council one hundred and fifty million dollars a day in
- 9:25Speaker 1: say coads, they couldn't do it because they don't have
- 9:28Speaker 1: the capacity. They don't have the right contracts in place,
- 9:31Speaker 1: they don't have the right relationships in place. If you're
- 9:34Speaker 1: looking long term, you've got to set stuff like that
- 9:37Speaker 1: up to be able to be ready to take care
- 9:39Speaker 1: of your city properly. And that's not what's happening.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly seems that way. Corey Bowman, tell me,
- 9:45Speaker 2: tell me again what events you have going on this
- 9:47Speaker 2: weekend for Father's Day.
- 9:50Speaker 3: Well, we simply just have our Father's Day Sunday, which.
- 9:53Speaker 1: At ten thirty we start. We're at five oh three
- 9:56Speaker 1: Clark Street right in the shadow of TQL Stadium there,
- 10:00Speaker 1: and yeah, we have a gift for fathers and we started,
- 10:04Speaker 1: like I said, ten thirty. We go into prayer time
- 10:06Speaker 1: and worship and then go into the Word. We usually
- 10:09Speaker 1: get out about twelve thirty one o'clock and.
- 10:12Speaker 3: Gifts for every father.
- 10:13Speaker 1: So we always always base it on the Word of God,
- 10:16Speaker 1: based on community. You know, the more and more that
- 10:19Speaker 1: I dive into politics, the more I realize the foundation
- 10:22Speaker 1: of my life of Jesus is more important than ever before.
- 10:25Speaker 1: And you know, when you have all these issues, a
- 10:29Speaker 1: lot of people just want to blame the government for everything,
- 10:31Speaker 1: but you know, the foundation of our hope is a
- 10:35Speaker 1: relationship with Jesus Christ. And I would, you know, want
- 10:37Speaker 1: to encourage anybody watching that that is something that will
- 10:42Speaker 1: dramatically improve your life in every area.
- 10:45Speaker 2: Corey Bowman, always great to have you on. Always appreciate
- 10:49Speaker 2: your message, and keep up the great work, my friend,
- 10:51Speaker 2: and we'll be talking again before too long.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, thank you, Dan, thank you so much for
- 10:56Speaker 1: having me all.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Right, Corey Bowman. It's my way of thinking the man
- 10:59Speaker 2: who should have been mayor