Latest / UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT / New Mexico UFO Crash Retrievals
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- 0:00Speaker 1: My name is Preston Dennett. Welcome to a new episode
- 0:02Speaker 1: of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call this episode New
- 0:06Speaker 1: Mexico UFO Crash Retrievals. Of course, everyone knows about the
- 0:12Speaker 1: Roswell UFO crash in 1947 and other very famous incidents
- 0:17Speaker 1: around that time, possibly the Corona UFO crash, the crash
- 0:22Speaker 1: on the San Agustin Plains, and definitely the Aztec UFO crash.
- 0:27Speaker 1: But what many people don't know is that New Mexico
- 0:30Speaker 1: has many other crashes, over a dozen in fact. And
- 0:35Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, New Mexico leads the
- 0:37Speaker 1: United States in the number of UFO crashes. But there
- 0:42Speaker 1: are literally hundreds. It's not as uncommon as you might think.
- 0:47Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to do this video. I
- 0:50Speaker 1: think UFO crash retrievals are one of the cutting edges
- 0:53Speaker 1: of UFO research. This really has the most potential, I think,
- 0:58Speaker 1: for real pay dirt. This is hard evidence. There are
- 1:03Speaker 1: enough whistleblower accounts to, I think, safely conclude that these
- 1:08Speaker 1: are real cases. And what I'd like to do today
- 1:11Speaker 1: is present to you about 10 cases of UFO crash
- 1:15Speaker 1: retrievals that come from the state of New Mexico alone.
- 1:21Speaker 1: So that's kind of a lot. and let's just get started.
- 1:25Speaker 1: The first case I want to talk about has come
- 1:28Speaker 1: to be known as the UFO crash at San Antonio.
- 1:34Speaker 1: This comes from two gentlemen by the name of Remigio
- 1:37Speaker 1: Baca and Jose Padilla, who have co-authored a book about
- 1:41Speaker 1: their experience titled Born on the Edge of Ground Zero,
- 1:46Speaker 1: Living in the Shadow of Area 51. This is all
- 1:51Speaker 1: about their experience being eyewitnesses to this UFO crash, which
- 1:57Speaker 1: occurred in August of 1945. And more recently, the book
- 2:03Speaker 1: Trinity by UFO researchers Jacques Vallée and Paola Harris revisits
- 2:10Speaker 1: this incident, which is now becoming much more well-known. So again,
- 2:16Speaker 1: this occurred in August of 1945 when two young boys,
- 2:21Speaker 1: again by the name of Jose Padilla and Remigio Baca,
- 2:25Speaker 1: were working on the Padilla Ranch outside of San Antonio
- 2:29Speaker 1: when they stumbled upon a crashed UFO complete with live occupants.
- 2:35Speaker 1: And according to Remigio Baca, they were actually looking for
- 2:39Speaker 1: a lost cow when they came upon this crashed UFO.
- 2:43Speaker 1: As he says, What we saw was a long, wide
- 2:47Speaker 1: gash in the earth with a manufactured object lying cockeyed
- 2:51Speaker 1: and partially buried at the end of it, surrounded by
- 2:55Speaker 1: a large field of debris. We believed then, and we
- 2:59Speaker 1: believe today, that the object was occupied by distinctly non-human
- 3:04Speaker 1: life forms, which were alive and moving about on their
- 3:08Speaker 1: arrival minutes after the crash. So they both approached the site,
- 3:13Speaker 1: getting quite close to it, and according to them, the
- 3:16Speaker 1: area around this craft was littered with pieces of quote, thin,
- 3:21Speaker 1: shiny material, which reminded them of tinfoil. And in fact,
- 3:27Speaker 1: Remigio picked up one of these pieces to examine, and
- 3:31Speaker 1: as he says, it was folded up and lodged beneath
- 3:34Speaker 1: a rock. When I freed it, it unfolded all by itself.
- 3:39Speaker 1: I refolded it, and it spread itself out again. So
- 3:43Speaker 1: this is very much like the description of the Roswell
- 3:46Speaker 1: UFO debris. And through a gash in the side of
- 3:50Speaker 1: this craft, Remigio and Jose observed the humanoid creatures moving
- 3:57Speaker 1: in quick, darting movements while making weird squeaking sounds that
- 4:02Speaker 1: reminded them of a jackrabbit in pain. And Jose, who
- 4:08Speaker 1: was nine years old, wanted to approach and examine the
- 4:11Speaker 1: craft more closely, but Remigio, who was a little bit younger,
- 4:15Speaker 1: became afraid. And as it was already getting late, they
- 4:19Speaker 1: returned home. They returned to their ranch on their horses
- 4:23Speaker 1: to tell the owner of the ranch, a man by
- 4:26Speaker 1: the name of Faustino Padilla, what had happened. And Faustino
- 4:31Speaker 1: agreed to check it out. He believed it was probably
- 4:34Speaker 1: a military experiment. So he contacted state policeman Eddie Apodaca,
- 4:41Speaker 1: who agreed to help investigate. And two days later, Faustino
- 4:45Speaker 1: Padilla said, And Eddie Apodaca returned with the boys to
- 4:52Speaker 1: the site of the craft. And once there, however, they
- 4:55Speaker 1: discovered that this site had been swept clean of debris
- 4:59Speaker 1: and that the beings, of course, were now gone. However,
- 5:04Speaker 1: the large and nearly intact body of the craft still remained,
- 5:09Speaker 1: though it had been covered with dirt and debris as
- 5:11Speaker 1: if to disguise it. So this craft was quite large,
- 5:15Speaker 1: too big to move. So after observing it for several minutes,
- 5:19Speaker 1: the witnesses returned to their ranch. And shortly later, a
- 5:24Speaker 1: man shows up at the ranch and said his name
- 5:27Speaker 1: was Sergeant Avila and that a, quote, experimental weather balloon
- 5:32Speaker 1: had come down on their property. And he requested permission
- 5:36Speaker 1: to remove one of their fences so they could bring
- 5:39Speaker 1: in some heavy equipment to remove it. And the owner
- 5:43Speaker 1: of the ranch, Faustino Padilla, agreed. And on August 20th,
- 5:47Speaker 1: a crane and a lowboy trailer were brought in and
- 5:50Speaker 1: were used to lift the craft and carry it away.
- 5:54Speaker 1: The entire operation took about five days and was observed
- 5:58Speaker 1: by the two boys from a secret vantage point up
- 6:01Speaker 1: on their property. And they watched as all the surrounding debris,
- 6:06Speaker 1: whatever was left, was collected. And then the large craft
- 6:10Speaker 1: was lifted up onto the flatbed truck covered with a tarp,
- 6:14Speaker 1: and hauled away. Jose Padilla says that they recovered some
- 6:19Speaker 1: of the metallic debris which remained on the ranch for
- 6:22Speaker 1: several years. Today, they say only two pieces remain, and
- 6:28Speaker 1: both were sent for metallurgical tests, which revealed that both
- 6:32Speaker 1: samples were composed of what they believed to be aluminum. Dr. Smith,
- 6:38Speaker 1: who examined the samples, said that the aluminum was was
- 6:41Speaker 1: not normal, it has an unusually high percentage of carbon,
- 6:45Speaker 1: and that the metal itself has a very strange structure.
- 6:50Speaker 1: As Remigio Bacca says, and I quote, there is certainly
- 6:55Speaker 1: something unusual about that metal. It apparently does not melt
- 6:59Speaker 1: when subjected to the 2,000 degree flame from an oxyacetylene
- 7:03Speaker 1: torch for up to two minutes, despite the fact that
- 7:07Speaker 1: aluminum silicate would be expected to melt at about 700 degrees.
- 7:13Speaker 1: A blend of carbon and some other trace materials is used,
- 7:16Speaker 1: which dramatically increases the conducting power, eliminating the resistance to electricity,
- 7:22Speaker 1: while at the same time a transferent of heat takes place.
- 7:26Speaker 1: There appears to be the potential for heat shielding or
- 7:30Speaker 1: computer chip manufacturing. And again, this is covered in Remigio
- 7:36Speaker 1: Baca and Jose Padilla's book, Born on the Edge of
- 7:40Speaker 1: Ground Zero, Living in the Shadow of Area 51, and
- 7:45Speaker 1: in the newly published book, Trinity. It's quite an interesting case,
- 7:49Speaker 1: and by all accounts appears to be legitimate, and is
- 7:53Speaker 1: a very early crash in New Mexico, predating Roswell by
- 7:58Speaker 1: two years. And again, it's not the only one. Here's
- 8:03Speaker 1: another report in which White Sands allegedly shot down a UFO. Now,
- 8:10Speaker 1: this report comes from a gentleman by the name of C.
- 8:14Speaker 1: John Kistner. In some accounts, his name is John Andrew Kistner,
- 8:21Speaker 1: and he is labeled as a Republican state representative from
- 8:27Speaker 1: Las Cruces, New Mexico. However, I was not able to
- 8:32Speaker 1: verify this, and in fact, there's no evidence at all
- 8:36Speaker 1: that this man actually existed that I could find. However,
- 8:40Speaker 1: this account is widely published in a number of sources,
- 8:44Speaker 1: so I include it here for what it's worth. And
- 8:49Speaker 1: according to Kistner, this was a crash which occurred only
- 8:54Speaker 1: a few days before the Roswell crash, about a week,
- 8:58Speaker 1: on May 29th. 1947 at White Sands Proving Ground. And
- 9:04Speaker 1: according to Kistner, radar technicians at White Sands observed one
- 9:08Speaker 1: or more unidentified radar targets hovering to the southwest of
- 9:13Speaker 1: the White Sands Proving Ground launch row. And at 7.15 p.m.,
- 9:20Speaker 1: one surface-to-air missile with a 674-pound atomic warhead was fired
- 9:27Speaker 1: at one of these radar targets And five minutes later,
- 9:30Speaker 1: the warhead exploded at an elevation of 60,000 feet. Meanwhile,
- 9:37Speaker 1: witnesses in Las Cruces, including the editor of the Las
- 9:41Speaker 1: Cruces Sun News and his neighbors, saw this rocket climb
- 9:45Speaker 1: into the sky and move towards two star-like objects high
- 9:49Speaker 1: in the sky and then explode. And apparently this tactic worked.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Following this explosion, this target was tracked on radar moving
- 9:58Speaker 1: south And 10 minutes later it impacted the earth about
- 10:03Speaker 1: 30 miles to the south outside the town of Juarez
- 10:07Speaker 1: New Mexico and also the missile itself impacted near there
- 10:14Speaker 1: Although U.S. officials attempted to go to Mexico and retrieve
- 10:18Speaker 1: this object, the town of Juarez had already been closed
- 10:22Speaker 1: off by Mexican officials who refused to allow anybody inside
- 10:26Speaker 1: the area. And according to Kistner, whatever had crashed had
- 10:32Speaker 1: been largely vaporized upon impact. Again, this is widely quoted
- 10:38Speaker 1: by many researchers, including highly respected British researcher Timothy Good.
- 10:46Speaker 1: And the next incident I'd like to talk about I
- 10:49Speaker 1: call the UFO crash in San Miguel County. And this
- 10:54Speaker 1: comes from UFO researcher Robert Wood, who has basically specialized,
- 10:59Speaker 1: along with his son, on UFO crash retrievals. And this
- 11:05Speaker 1: case first came to light in an official declassified document
- 11:09Speaker 1: from the AFOSI at Tinker Air Force Base which contained
- 11:15Speaker 1: a letter written by a Mr. McLean of Freona, Texas.
- 11:21Speaker 1: And in the spring of 1952, Mr. McLean, who was
- 11:25Speaker 1: a retired farmer, and his wife, both residents of Freona, Texas,
- 11:30Speaker 1: were camping in the mountains in the eastern part of
- 11:33Speaker 1: San Miguel County in New Mexico, and one evening they
- 11:37Speaker 1: saw a dim light circling around up high, they said.
- 11:43Speaker 1: This strange object performed a mile-wide circle and was slowly descending,
- 11:49Speaker 1: and when it reached a low altitude, it suddenly turned
- 11:53Speaker 1: bright green and exploded, quote, showering lighted objects in all directions.
- 12:02Speaker 1: And according to this AFOSI document, Mr. McLean said, several
- 12:08Speaker 1: of those fiery objects landed close to me. Most of
- 12:11Speaker 1: them were buried in the ground. but I gathered up
- 12:14Speaker 1: three that were only partly buried and brought them home
- 12:17Speaker 1: with me. Later, he broke open one of these strange
- 12:23Speaker 1: objects and says, quote, in the center was a round
- 12:27Speaker 1: hole or vacuum filled with a fine powder. So he
- 12:33Speaker 1: informed the Pentagon, who did not respond, and he ended
- 12:37Speaker 1: up writing a letter to Senators Lyndon Johnson and of Texas,
- 12:44Speaker 1: and Clinton Anderson of New Mexico. And both senators did
- 12:49Speaker 1: respond and asked that McLean send samples of the material
- 12:53Speaker 1: for analysis, which he did, and the report that came
- 12:58Speaker 1: back to him came back as meteors. Now McLean says
- 13:04Speaker 1: that he was later visited by a Russian scientist who
- 13:07Speaker 1: bought one of the objects from him, and told McLean
- 13:10Speaker 1: that the object was made of uranium and other materials.
- 13:15Speaker 1: So Mr. McLean was later contacted by UFO researchers, and
- 13:22Speaker 1: he changed his story, saying that he had not actually
- 13:24Speaker 1: seen the objects fall to Earth, despite what this document says.
- 13:29Speaker 1: And he said that he had found them while driving
- 13:31Speaker 1: through the area. He also said he never sold anything
- 13:34Speaker 1: to a Russian scientist, but did remember being visited there.
- 13:38Speaker 1: by an individual from the Russian consulate in Amarillo, Texas,
- 13:43Speaker 1: who expressed an interest in these samples. So this case,
- 13:48Speaker 1: like many UFO crash retrieval incidents, doesn't contain a whole
- 13:53Speaker 1: lot of other information. But Bob Wood, who studied this case, writes,
- 13:58Speaker 1: and I quote, More than a half century on, and
- 14:01Speaker 1: with the key player in this case long departed, this
- 14:05Speaker 1: event remains intriguingly unresolved. The next case I'd like to
- 14:12Speaker 1: cover comes from researcher Leonard Stringfield, who is very well
- 14:17Speaker 1: known for studying UFO crash retrievals. In fact, he's really
- 14:21Speaker 1: the first major researcher, other than perhaps Frank Scully, who
- 14:25Speaker 1: took UFO crash retrievals seriously and focused on them almost exclusively.
- 14:34Speaker 1: And this crash occurred in an undisclosed location in New Mexico.
- 14:39Speaker 1: And how it came to light was a witness contacted
- 14:43Speaker 1: Leonard Stringfield and said that he was a radar specialist
- 14:47Speaker 1: who had actually viewed a film of this UFO crash.
- 14:54Speaker 1: According to this gentleman, in 1953, when he was only
- 14:59Speaker 1: 20 years old, he was a radar specialist at Fort
- 15:03Speaker 1: Monmouth in New Jersey And while stationed there, he was
- 15:06Speaker 1: given a secret security clearance. And later, he and a
- 15:11Speaker 1: small group of radar specialists were summoned to view a
- 15:15Speaker 1: special 16mm film at the base theater. This is what
- 15:20Speaker 1: he told Leonard Stringfield. And this witness, who is anonymous,
- 15:24Speaker 1: says that the film opened with a desert scene and
- 15:28Speaker 1: immediately apparent, according to Stringfield, was, quote, A silver disc-shaped
- 15:34Speaker 1: object embedded in the sand with a domed section at
- 15:37Speaker 1: the top. At the bottom, a hatch or door was open.
- 15:43Speaker 1: At this point, the scene in the film shifted to
- 15:45Speaker 1: show a group of 10, maybe 15, military personnel standing
- 15:50Speaker 1: around the craft, which appeared to be quite small, about
- 15:54Speaker 1: 20 feet in diameter. The hatch itself appeared to be
- 15:58Speaker 1: about 3 feet tall and 1.5 feet wide. The film
- 16:04Speaker 1: then showed the interior of the craft, which had only a, quote,
- 16:08Speaker 1: panel with a few simple levers and muted pastel colors.
- 16:16Speaker 1: The scene shifted again in this film to show three
- 16:20Speaker 1: dead E.T. bodies on tables inside a tent. And as
- 16:26Speaker 1: Leonard Stringfield writes, the witness says, Mr. T said the
- 16:31Speaker 1: bodies appeared little by human standards and most notable were
- 16:35Speaker 1: the heads, all looking alike and all being large compared
- 16:39Speaker 1: to their body sizes. They looked mongoloid, he thought, with
- 16:43Speaker 1: small noses, mouths, and eyes that were shut. He didn't
- 16:48Speaker 1: recall seeing ears or hair. The skin, he said, was
- 16:51Speaker 1: leathery and ashen in color. Each wore a tight-fitting suit
- 16:57Speaker 1: in a pastel color. At this point, the 16mm film
- 17:02Speaker 1: ended without any credits. It was only about five minutes
- 17:06Speaker 1: long and seemed to the witness, Mr. T, to be
- 17:09Speaker 1: filmed by an amateur. At this point, the officer in
- 17:13Speaker 1: charge told the radar technicians to, quote, think about the
- 17:17Speaker 1: movie and don't relate the contents to anyone. The witness obeyed,
- 17:23Speaker 1: did not tell anybody, not even his wife. However, shortly
- 17:27Speaker 1: after viewing the film, two top security officers told him
- 17:32Speaker 1: that a UFO, presumably the one he viewed in this film,
- 17:36Speaker 1: had been shot down in New Mexico, somewhere in New Mexico,
- 17:41Speaker 1: in 1952. It was two weeks after viewing this film,
- 17:46Speaker 1: the witness was approached again by an Air Force intelligence
- 17:49Speaker 1: officer who told him, quote, forget the movie you saw,
- 17:54Speaker 1: it was a hoax. So years later, Mr. T revealed
- 18:01Speaker 1: his account to researcher Leonard Stringfield. At that time, he
- 18:05Speaker 1: was no longer employed by the Air Force, and instead
- 18:08Speaker 1: he held a highly technical position in civilian life. And
- 18:13Speaker 1: as Leonard Stringfield says, and I quote, Considering the credibility
- 18:17Speaker 1: of my informant, I believe he saw the movie and
- 18:20Speaker 1: describes the subject matter to the best of his recollection.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Regarding the subject matter, he believes that the crashed craft,
- 18:29Speaker 1: and the dead bodies were bona fide. It would have
- 18:33Speaker 1: been difficult, even by a major Hollywood studio, to have
- 18:37Speaker 1: made dummy bodies look so real for use in an
- 18:41Speaker 1: otherwise so makeshift film. So this does appear to be
- 18:47Speaker 1: your standard, typical gray type ETs with the large heads
- 18:53Speaker 1: and the grayish skin. Hard to say for sure, but
- 18:57Speaker 1: it's another case of a UFO crash in New Mexico
- 19:00Speaker 1: that is not well known. And there are many other,
- 19:03Speaker 1: and they all seem to circle around White Sands or
- 19:07Speaker 1: that general area. Certainly this next case does, which involves
- 19:12Speaker 1: an apparent UFO crash at White Sands. And this comes
- 19:17Speaker 1: from researcher Todd Zetchel. Todd Zetchel is best known for
- 19:22Speaker 1: for being one of the co-founders of the Citizens UFO Group,
- 19:27Speaker 1: Citizens Against UFO Secrecy Cause. Again, I tried to verify
- 19:34Speaker 1: Todd Zetschel's identity. Definitely, he was one of the founders
- 19:42Speaker 1: of the Citizens UFO Group, which was quite influential and
- 19:45Speaker 1: quite active for many years. However, I could not find
- 19:49Speaker 1: a single photograph of him out there, and I did
- 19:54Speaker 1: find out that he was at one point employed by
- 19:56Speaker 1: the military as an intelligence officer, which could be why
- 20:00Speaker 1: his identity remains somewhat hidden. At any rate, it's a
- 20:05Speaker 1: very interesting case. And according to researcher Todd Zetschel, an
- 20:10Speaker 1: anonymous Army helicopter pilot who served as an aide to
- 20:14Speaker 1: an Air Force general told him that a crashed saucer
- 20:19Speaker 1: of ovoid shape was about 18 by 30 feet in
- 20:23Speaker 1: diameter and had four four-foot-tall bodies of ETs in it
- 20:30Speaker 1: and that this object was retrieved near White Sands in
- 20:33Speaker 1: 1953 and then was later shipped to to Langley Air
- 20:37Speaker 1: Force Base in Virginia. And according to the witness, Air
- 20:42Speaker 1: Force personnel found the craft in perfect condition with the
- 20:45Speaker 1: doors wide open. All four occupants were dead, though no
- 20:50Speaker 1: cause of death could be found. The bodies were reportedly hairless,
- 20:54Speaker 1: but otherwise very much human looking. Because of his association
- 20:59Speaker 1: with the general, the witness, along with him, the general,
- 21:03Speaker 1: viewed the bodies and the craft Inside the craft, they
- 21:08Speaker 1: were puzzled because there was no visible means of controlling
- 21:11Speaker 1: or propelling the craft. They were also shown three other
- 21:16Speaker 1: UFO craft that had been recovered, and these craft were
- 21:19Speaker 1: about 25 feet long and 13 feet wide. According to
- 21:24Speaker 1: the witness, despite many years of intense research, leading scientists
- 21:29Speaker 1: have been unsuccessful in discovering the means of propulsion of
- 21:33Speaker 1: this recovered craft. So this case does not rest solely
- 21:40Speaker 1: on Todd Zetschel. In 1977, researcher Richard Hall spoke with
- 21:47Speaker 1: an anonymous lieutenant colonel who confirmed the incident and said
- 21:51Speaker 1: that he had seen four of these bodies at Langley
- 21:55Speaker 1: Air Force Base in Virginia and was told that they
- 21:58Speaker 1: had been, quote, recovered from a crash in 1953 near
- 22:01Speaker 1: White Sands, New Mexico. So this case has been widely quoted,
- 22:09Speaker 1: not only by Richard Hall, by Leonard Stringfield in his
- 22:12Speaker 1: status reports, and of course by UFO researcher Robert Wood.
- 22:20Speaker 1: The next case I'd like to talk about is a
- 22:23Speaker 1: UFO crash at Walker Air Force Base. And this occurred
- 22:28Speaker 1: in 1954 and again comes from researcher Leonard Stringfield. who
- 22:34Speaker 1: interviewed an anonymous witness who goes by the initials K.A.
- 22:40Speaker 1: According to Stringfield, in early 1954, K.A. completed his basic
- 22:46Speaker 1: training at Samson Air Force Base in Geneva, New York.
- 22:50Speaker 1: He was then immediately sent to Walker Air Force Base
- 22:53Speaker 1: near Roswell, where he began, quote, special training in the
- 22:59Speaker 1: Sikorsky H-19 helicopter, in relation to desert search and rescue operations.
- 23:08Speaker 1: KA told researchers Fred Schaefer, Gerald Misker, and Linda Robinson
- 23:14Speaker 1: that on the evening of April 12, 1954, he and
- 23:19Speaker 1: his crew were told to launch a search and rescue
- 23:22Speaker 1: mission for a crash in the deserts of New Mexico.
- 23:27Speaker 1: This was published in Leonard Stringsfield's Status Report No. 3,
- 23:32Speaker 1: And according to Stringfield, the crash site was located about
- 23:35Speaker 1: 25 miles away from Walker Air Force Base out in
- 23:41Speaker 1: the desert wilderness. And according to K.A., and I quote,
- 23:45Speaker 1: As we flew overhead at an altitude of about 40 feet,
- 23:50Speaker 1: we could plainly see below us the outline of a
- 23:52Speaker 1: round silver object. At this point, the stranger in the
- 23:57Speaker 1: cockpit gave the order to turn on the spotlight. When
- 24:01Speaker 1: the light was turned on, We saw below us a
- 24:03Speaker 1: round metallic saucer-like object approximately 40 to 50 feet in diameter.
- 24:10Speaker 1: The craft appeared to have crashed edgewise into the sand.
- 24:16Speaker 1: According to K.A., there were four small bodies, each about
- 24:20Speaker 1: four and a half feet long, dressed in dark blue
- 24:24Speaker 1: tight-fitting uniforms scattered outside the craft, each of which had, quote,
- 24:30Speaker 1: extremely large heads, which were out of proportion with the
- 24:33Speaker 1: rest of their bodies. K.A. was ordered to photograph the bodies,
- 24:37Speaker 1: which he did, though he was not allowed to approach
- 24:41Speaker 1: any closer than 40 feet. He says that an overpowering
- 24:46Speaker 1: stench came from the bodies, which caused one of the
- 24:49Speaker 1: ground crew to actually vomit. He talked to another member
- 24:53Speaker 1: of the ground crew who learned that there were two
- 24:55Speaker 1: more bodies inside the craft. After photographing these bodies and
- 25:00Speaker 1: the craft, K.A. was then removed from the scene. And
- 25:05Speaker 1: the next three days, says K.A., were a, quote, living hell.
- 25:12Speaker 1: He says he was interrogated for three days straight regarding
- 25:17Speaker 1: the incident, being alternately asked what happened, and then told
- 25:21Speaker 1: that he did not see anything. And one day after
- 25:25Speaker 1: finally being released from interrogation, He was flown back over
- 25:30Speaker 1: the crash site, which appeared as if it had been, quote,
- 25:34Speaker 1: gone over with a fine-toothed comb. And one of the
- 25:38Speaker 1: interrogating intelligence officers told him, See, I told you guys
- 25:43Speaker 1: that you didn't see anything. Of course, rumors on the
- 25:47Speaker 1: base were that the craft and bodies had been recovered
- 25:50Speaker 1: and secreted at the base, and later K.A. 's superior
- 25:55Speaker 1: accused him of having leaked the incident which he denied. K.A.
- 26:01Speaker 1: was then accused of going AWOL and was summarily dismissed
- 26:05Speaker 1: from the Air Force, having served for less than four months.
- 26:11Speaker 1: According to K.A., the stories in the movie Hangar 18
- 26:17Speaker 1: about crashed UFOs stem specifically from this incident, as the
- 26:23Speaker 1: craft itself was allegedly stored in Hangar 18 in after
- 26:28Speaker 1: which it became top security, and according to K.A., and
- 26:33Speaker 1: I quote, no one but top brass could enter or
- 26:37Speaker 1: leave the area. K.A. says that the hangar was totally reconstructed.
- 26:42Speaker 1: He was able to speak with one of the construction
- 26:44Speaker 1: workers who told him that it was expanded, quote, to
- 26:49Speaker 1: a height of nine stories and a depth of 11 stories.
- 26:54Speaker 1: and that heavy equipment and large computers were also installed. K.A.
- 27:00Speaker 1: also heard that another UFO crash occurred only a few
- 27:03Speaker 1: weeks later on April 24, 1954, near Bandelier, New Mexico.
- 27:11Speaker 1: And after speaking with researcher Leonard Stringfield, K.A. continued to
- 27:17Speaker 1: receive threats and warnings not to talk about his role
- 27:21Speaker 1: in this incident. K.A. says he has suffered from nightmares
- 27:25Speaker 1: ever since this ordeal occurred and he and his wife
- 27:29Speaker 1: continue to fear government reprisals. So I think this is
- 27:35Speaker 1: a reason why probably what we're hearing about UFO crash
- 27:38Speaker 1: retrievals is really just the tip of the iceberg. This
- 27:43Speaker 1: is a very serious situation. People have lost their lives
- 27:47Speaker 1: for coming forward and this goes to show that there
- 27:53Speaker 1: are far more UFO crashes than we realize, and our
- 27:57Speaker 1: government does in fact have these materials, these craft, these
- 28:01Speaker 1: bodies in their possession. There are so many of these
- 28:05Speaker 1: incidents being reported. Another case comes from UFO researcher Robert Wood,
- 28:13Speaker 1: and this one is a UFO crash at Clovis, New Mexico.
- 28:19Speaker 1: This is a small town. and in the summer of 1957,
- 28:23Speaker 1: possibly 1958, an anonymous former Air Force officer was traveling
- 28:29Speaker 1: through New Mexico when he heard that a crash of
- 28:32Speaker 1: some kind involving an unusual aircraft had occurred at a
- 28:37Speaker 1: ranch about 30 miles southwest of Clovis. At the time,
- 28:42Speaker 1: he was in the military, and he was intrigued, so
- 28:45Speaker 1: he and two of his Air Force buddies decided that
- 28:48Speaker 1: they would trek to the site in hopes of examining
- 28:51Speaker 1: this craft and upon arrival they saw numerous military vehicles
- 28:57Speaker 1: in the area and that this area was scattered with
- 29:01Speaker 1: small pieces of quote unusual lightweight wreckage so here again
- 29:08Speaker 1: we have echoes of Roswell long before Roswell had become
- 29:11Speaker 1: public and this witness and his friends could see evidence
- 29:16Speaker 1: that quote something large hit the ground however before they
- 29:21Speaker 1: had a chance to examine the area and get closer
- 29:24Speaker 1: he and his friends were approached by military personnel and
- 29:28Speaker 1: were ordered to leave and remain silent about the incident
- 29:34Speaker 1: so there you go another incident and there's another one
- 29:37Speaker 1: not long after that involving an apparent UFO crash not
- 29:41Speaker 1: far away at Holloman Air Force Base. And this report
- 29:47Speaker 1: comes from longtime researcher Robert D. Berry, UFO researcher for
- 29:53Speaker 1: many years, and would lecture on this topic. And according
- 29:58Speaker 1: to Robert D. Berry, On June 12, 1962, officials at
- 30:03Speaker 1: Holloman Air Force Base tracked a UFO that appeared to
- 30:07Speaker 1: be having flight difficulties across two southwestern states, and when
- 30:13Speaker 1: this object came over New Mexico, military jets were set
- 30:17Speaker 1: up to intercept it. At this point, this craft, which
- 30:22Speaker 1: was described as circular, seemed to lose control and began
- 30:26Speaker 1: to descend, And moments later, it impacted bottom first into
- 30:31Speaker 1: the sands at an estimated 90 miles per hour. And
- 30:37Speaker 1: according to Robert D. Berry, and I quote, this craft
- 30:41Speaker 1: was 68 feet in diameter and 13 feet in height,
- 30:46Speaker 1: typically circular. Two beings were discovered inside the craft and
- 30:51Speaker 1: they were 42 inches in height and Each being was
- 30:55Speaker 1: donned in a one-piece suit that contained no buttons or zippers.
- 31:02Speaker 1: This is certainly what we hear in all the other accounts.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Researcher Kevin Randall also looked into this case and reported
- 31:11Speaker 1: on it. And according to Kevin Randall, the craft was
- 31:14Speaker 1: dull aluminum in color and had skidded for a distance
- 31:19Speaker 1: on the ground, leaving a trench. According to Robert D.
- 31:23Speaker 1: Berry's source, He said that the heads of the ETs
- 31:26Speaker 1: were abnormally large, the eyes larger than normal, with small
- 31:31Speaker 1: thin lips, and only an ear hole for an ear.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Their skin color was a grayish pink, and the creatures
- 31:40Speaker 1: were believed to have died upon impact. They were immediately
- 31:44Speaker 1: removed and placed in a secret location for study. They
- 31:49Speaker 1: certainly do sound like your typical greys. The craft the
- 31:53Speaker 1: witness learned later was allegedly an exploratory craft. It was
- 31:58Speaker 1: also removed and taken to a secret location for study.
- 32:02Speaker 1: And Robert D. Berry's source writes that only 20 individuals
- 32:09Speaker 1: were actually involved in the retrieval and investigation and that
- 32:13Speaker 1: three of them had actually died. According to Kevin Randall,
- 32:17Speaker 1: this craft was taken back to Holloman Air Force Base
- 32:20Speaker 1: with sections of it being distributed to Los Alamos and
- 32:24Speaker 1: other research installations. Leonard Stringfield also wrote about this in
- 32:30Speaker 1: his status reports, and he writes, quote, there are more
- 32:35Speaker 1: and stronger data concerning the 1962 Mexico crash, which are
- 32:40Speaker 1: not publishable at this writing. And Stringfield never did reveal
- 32:46Speaker 1: this data, but did say, quote, the 1962 crash site
- 32:51Speaker 1: was near Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico and
- 32:54Speaker 1: and that this incident is known by an astronaut who
- 32:58Speaker 1: prefers anonymity. There you go, another crash. And here's another
- 33:05Speaker 1: very intriguing case, which comes from abduction researcher, the late
- 33:11Speaker 1: Bud Hopkins. This is a very unusual incident, which occurred
- 33:16Speaker 1: in the small town of Santa Rosa, New Mexico. And
- 33:21Speaker 1: the main witness is an x-ray technician who allegedly goes
- 33:24Speaker 1: by the name of Beanie or his nickname Beanie. And
- 33:29Speaker 1: this occurred in early 1963 when this anonymous medical technician
- 33:36Speaker 1: was working in a hospital in the small town of
- 33:39Speaker 1: Santa Rosa. She was not a registered nurse, but it
- 33:43Speaker 1: was her job to do x-rays and ride with the
- 33:46Speaker 1: patients in the ambulance. This was a very small hospital
- 33:50Speaker 1: with only one doctor and a few rooms because the
- 33:53Speaker 1: town and the hospital were so small. Things were usually
- 33:56Speaker 1: very quiet and slow, and therefore when accidents occurred, they
- 34:00Speaker 1: were considered big news and generated considerable gossip for weeks afterwards.
- 34:08Speaker 1: But this particular incident was different. It started out normally
- 34:13Speaker 1: when the hospital received a call from the town's only
- 34:16Speaker 1: police dispatcher that there had been, quote, a crash with fatalities.
- 34:22Speaker 1: So Beeney, the main witness, and the ambulance driver raced
- 34:26Speaker 1: 18 miles from the hospital to the scene of the accident,
- 34:32Speaker 1: and when they arrived, there were two police cars and
- 34:34Speaker 1: two state troopers on the scene, and on the ground
- 34:38Speaker 1: there were three bodies, each three and a half feet
- 34:41Speaker 1: tall and very badly burned. And the witness assumed that
- 34:46Speaker 1: they were children and asked the state trooper, where are
- 34:50Speaker 1: the parents? And this state trooper replied enigmatically, I don't
- 34:55Speaker 1: think they have parents. This is something unusual we have here.
- 35:00Speaker 1: And she asked him, what is this? And he said,
- 35:04Speaker 1: I'm going to have to notify the Air Force. I
- 35:07Speaker 1: don't know what this is. So this witness from Bud
- 35:12Speaker 1: Hopkins is still thinking this is children and but she's
- 35:15Speaker 1: 10 feet away from the bodies, and looking at this vehicle,
- 35:20Speaker 1: which is right there, she sees, quote, a pile of
- 35:24Speaker 1: wreckage of metal, and it was about the size of
- 35:27Speaker 1: one or two cars. So she bent down and checked
- 35:31Speaker 1: for signs of life with her stethoscope and found no
- 35:34Speaker 1: signs of life. Thinking that they might possibly still be alive,
- 35:39Speaker 1: she and the ambulance driver quickly put the bodies on
- 35:41Speaker 1: gurneys and loaded them into the ambulance. And she said
- 35:44Speaker 1: that when she did this, the bodies oozed some kind
- 35:47Speaker 1: of brownish colored fluid. They returned to the hospital and
- 35:52Speaker 1: the witness immediately took the bodies to the x-ray room
- 35:55Speaker 1: and x-rayed them. She was eager for the doctor to
- 35:58Speaker 1: examine them because they looked so strange with very thin
- 36:02Speaker 1: bodies and very large heads, which reminded her of photos
- 36:06Speaker 1: she had seen of children dying of famine in Africa.
- 36:12Speaker 1: So the doctor came in and after examining the bodies,
- 36:14Speaker 1: pronounced them dead, and he started filling out the reports
- 36:18Speaker 1: and signing the necessary paperwork, at which point an Air
- 36:23Speaker 1: Force colonel stormed into the hospital and demanded that the
- 36:27Speaker 1: bodies be removed. He then, according to the main witness Beeney,
- 36:33Speaker 1: proceeded to remove, quote, every single thing he could that
- 36:38Speaker 1: bore on this trip. And he asked the witness, do
- 36:42Speaker 1: you have any notes? She said, yes. And he took
- 36:45Speaker 1: them away. He unhooked the x-rays, which were hanging up
- 36:49Speaker 1: on a wire drying. She said, you can't take those.
- 36:52Speaker 1: They're still wet. And he replied, I'm taking the x-rays.
- 36:57Speaker 1: After removing the bodies and everything associated with them, the
- 37:01Speaker 1: Air Force colonel and his associates descended upon the ambulance
- 37:06Speaker 1: and retrieved the evidence from there. And according to Bud Hopkins,
- 37:10Speaker 1: who interviewed the main witness, the Air Force took every
- 37:15Speaker 1: single thing they could out of the back of it.
- 37:20Speaker 1: The sheets, any objects, anything movable, cleaned out the whole thing.
- 37:26Speaker 1: She said, So after removing all the evidence of the event,
- 37:32Speaker 1: the Air Force colonel approached the witnesses and threatened them
- 37:35Speaker 1: not to talk, saying, quote, This did not happen. You
- 37:40Speaker 1: are never to speak about this, and remember this, the
- 37:43Speaker 1: government has a long arm. According to the witness, and
- 37:49Speaker 1: again I quote, What was so strange was that whenever
- 37:52Speaker 1: we had a fatality, a wreck, a crash, we would
- 37:57Speaker 1: all be down in the cafe going over the details
- 38:00Speaker 1: and talking about it as it was a big event
- 38:03Speaker 1: in our area. But nobody ever mentioned that. There was
- 38:07Speaker 1: some kind of understanding or fear not to mention it.
- 38:11Speaker 1: I have no idea what it was we had there.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Of course, she is now convinced that these bodies were
- 38:18Speaker 1: not human and that they had become unwitting participants in
- 38:22Speaker 1: a UFO crash retrieval. This witness remained silent for years
- 38:27Speaker 1: but finally contacted UFO researcher Bud Hopkins who revealed the
- 38:31Speaker 1: details of this case in the 2003 UFO crash retrieval
- 38:37Speaker 1: conference in Laughlin, Nevada. Researcher Kevin Randall looked into this
- 38:42Speaker 1: case and he had some doubts about it because apparently
- 38:45Speaker 1: the main witness said that there were two bodies when
- 38:51Speaker 1: initially she had said three. But Bud Hopkins is, of course,
- 38:57Speaker 1: absolutely convinced that this case is legitimate. And even if
- 39:03Speaker 1: it's not, there's always another one to take its place.
- 39:06Speaker 1: This next case occurred in the Manzano Mountains. I call
- 39:11Speaker 1: this the Manzano Mountains UFO crash. And this comes from
- 39:15Speaker 1: a researcher from APRO, the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. His
- 39:21Speaker 1: name is R.C. Hecker. And this incident allegedly occurred on
- 39:28Speaker 1: May 17, 1990. 17, 1974 at around 10.22 p.m. An anonymous
- 39:36Speaker 1: gentleman who worked at Kirtland Air Force Base's East Manzano
- 39:40Speaker 1: Labs was monitoring electrical scanning instruments and saw that the
- 39:45Speaker 1: sensors had observed an unexplained burst of energy in the
- 39:49Speaker 1: range of 250 megahertz. This blast was so intense that
- 39:55Speaker 1: it threw all the instruments off scale, and the source
- 39:59Speaker 1: was quickly traced to an object in a certain location
- 40:02Speaker 1: in the Earth's upper atmosphere. A trajectory was plotted, which
- 40:07Speaker 1: showed that this object had just descended down to the
- 40:11Speaker 1: east side of the Manzano Mountains, about 30 miles southwest
- 40:16Speaker 1: of Albuquerque. This employee later learned that this object had
- 40:21Speaker 1: allegedly crashed just outside the town of Chile, New Mexico.
- 40:27Speaker 1: A team was sent to locate the object, which was
- 40:30Speaker 1: immediately surrounded and cordoned off, and within hours, this object,
- 40:35Speaker 1: which was described as metallic, circular, and about 60 feet
- 40:40Speaker 1: in diameter, was dismantled and secretly moved into an unidentified
- 40:46Speaker 1: hangar And according to R.C. Hecker, who interviewed the gentleman
- 40:52Speaker 1: who worked at this base, he writes, and I quote,
- 40:57Speaker 1: This individual has given me leads to sightings in the
- 41:00Speaker 1: past which have always proved valid. After being told of
- 41:04Speaker 1: this incident, I was stopped by a man who identified
- 41:08Speaker 1: himself as a Kirtland Air Force Base officer, and he
- 41:13Speaker 1: ordered me to forget everything I had been told about
- 41:16Speaker 1: about this incident. So this is another case that has
- 41:20Speaker 1: been fairly widely written about in the UFO literature by
- 41:25Speaker 1: Kevin Randall, by Timothy Goode, and others. So it appears
- 41:31Speaker 1: to be a legitimate case. And as can be seen,
- 41:36Speaker 1: New Mexico has an enormous number of UFO grass retrieval incidents.
- 41:43Speaker 1: And it is... apparent that our government is lying about
- 41:48Speaker 1: this and that they do, in fact, not only have
- 41:51Speaker 1: material from otherworldly vehicles, as was insinuated by the Pentagon,
- 41:56Speaker 1: but have the actual craft and the ET bodies, and
- 41:59Speaker 1: that people who pursue research in this area or who
- 42:03Speaker 1: are whistleblowers are doing so at their own risk. Just
- 42:08Speaker 1: consider what happened to Clifford Stone. who is a well-known
- 42:13Speaker 1: proponent of UFO crash retrieval incidents. Sergeant Clifford Stone had
- 42:20Speaker 1: investigated many crash retrievals and was a vocal critic of
- 42:24Speaker 1: the military policy regarding UFOs. And on June 21, 1987,
- 42:31Speaker 1: a news article about Clifford Stone's research appeared in the
- 42:35Speaker 1: Roswell Daily Record. And according to Clifford Stone, immediately following
- 42:41Speaker 1: the publication of this article, his supervisors at the New
- 42:45Speaker 1: Mexico Military Institute, where he was assigned at that time,
- 42:50Speaker 1: began to treat him differently. His efficiency ratings, which had
- 42:54Speaker 1: always been excellent, began to receive lower scores. He was
- 42:59Speaker 1: relieved of his position as an administrative non-commissioned officer and
- 43:05Speaker 1: was assigned to a low-level filing position. He was then
- 43:10Speaker 1: sent to Fort Bliss for a psychological evaluation, which found
- 43:15Speaker 1: that he was, in fact, normal, but the harassment continued.
- 43:19Speaker 1: And on February 1st, 1988, Clifford Stone filed an affidavit
- 43:24Speaker 1: with the 4th ROTC Region Inspector General, alleging that he
- 43:30Speaker 1: was being wrongfully forced to retire from the Army. Army
- 43:34Speaker 1: officials have refused to comment on his case. But Clifford
- 43:37Speaker 1: Stone said that he believes that officials are displeased with
- 43:41Speaker 1: the fact that he has sent numerous letters to New
- 43:45Speaker 1: Mexico's Republican Senator Pete Dominici questioning various UFO incidents. So
- 43:53Speaker 1: he still remained a vocal critic of the government and
- 43:58Speaker 1: an advocate saying that UFO crash retrievals do in fact happen.
- 44:06Speaker 1: So those are the cases from New Mexico that I
- 44:08Speaker 1: wanted to present to you today. Again, I didn't talk
- 44:11Speaker 1: about Roswell or the Aztec crash or the other ones
- 44:15Speaker 1: surrounding that. I already covered them in my YouTube episode,
- 44:19Speaker 1: the top 20 cases in New Mexico. But as you
- 44:23Speaker 1: can see, New Mexico has an awful lot of UFO crashes.
- 44:28Speaker 1: It's hard to account for these. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
- 44:31Speaker 1: And it's clear that these are not the only ones.
- 44:36Speaker 1: I've written a number of books about various states, and
- 44:39Speaker 1: they occur, these crashes, in pretty much every state I've researched.
- 44:43Speaker 1: I wrote about these cases in my book, UFOs Over
- 44:48Speaker 1: New Mexico. And I think it's clear from these eyewitness
- 44:51Speaker 1: testimonies that these cases do, in fact, occur. And judging
- 44:56Speaker 1: from the fact that this information is so very vigorously
- 45:01Speaker 1: and ruthlessly covered up, We can safely assume that there
- 45:05Speaker 1: are many other cases like these that we never hear about.
- 45:10Speaker 1: It appears that our own government is neck deep involved
- 45:13Speaker 1: in this subject, has the material, and is lying about it.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Just recently in the congressional hearings, they were asked about
- 45:22Speaker 1: whether or not they had material from other worldly vehicles,
- 45:26Speaker 1: and they flat out said no. So I think that's
- 45:29Speaker 1: probably a lie. We are still at this point relying
- 45:32Speaker 1: on eyewitness testimony. While there is allegedly some of these
- 45:37Speaker 1: materials in the public arena, this remains quite controversial. But
- 45:43Speaker 1: I still think that UFO crash retrievals are one of
- 45:46Speaker 1: the cutting edges of UFO research. The one that has
- 45:50Speaker 1: the greatest potential to actually prove the reality of UFOs
- 45:55Speaker 1: and the alien presence on our planet. And that's really
- 45:58Speaker 1: why I wanted to do this video for you today.
- 46:01Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed it. I want to thank you
- 46:04Speaker 1: once again for watching. I truly appreciate it. Until next time,
- 46:08Speaker 1: keep searching for answers. Keep digging for the truth. And
- 46:12Speaker 1: most importantly, keep having fun.