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The Bolt Report | 15 December · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: It's well tonight, I've got to give you a warning
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  Speaker 1: that some of the vision you're about to see may
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  Speaker 1: cause shock and distress, and I hope it does. Actually
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  Speaker 1: it's a warning because Australia has just had its October seventh,
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  Speaker 1: the slaughter of innocent Jews. Fifteen people murdered, forty two
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  Speaker 1: injured by too Muslim gunman, a father and a son
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  Speaker 1: shooting a Jew celebrating Holy Hannekah at Bundai Beach, forcing
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  Speaker 1: parents and their children to hide behind scraps of cover
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  Speaker 1: as they were picked off, as if this was a
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  Speaker 1: war zone in Australia, these Jew haters shooting at Jews
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  Speaker 1: for some ten minutes until police finally killed one wounded
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  Speaker 1: the other. But not before these evil men had murdered
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  Speaker 1: two rabbis and even a ten year old girl without
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  Speaker 1: shame or pity, because you know, they were just Jews.
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  Speaker 1: And now today, on this day of grief and.
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  Speaker 2: Fear and.
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  Speaker 1: Terrible, terrible shame for our country, let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: what I don't want to hear. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: hear politicians just sending their thoughts and prayers. I especially
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  Speaker 1: don't want to hear our Prime Minister and others say, look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I could never have imagined this terrorism could
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  Speaker 1: happen here in Australia, because I say to them, are
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  Speaker 1: you blind?
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  Speaker 2: Are you deaf?
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  Speaker 1: How could you possibly not see that this day would come?
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  Speaker 1: And worse, how could you've added petrol to this bonfire
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  Speaker 1: of due hatred that has now changed our country forever?
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  Speaker 1: And that was a question put to the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: is first and is deeply unimpressive press conference last night
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  Speaker 1: just after the shooting, and Anthony Albinezi had no answer.
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  Speaker 3: In September, your government recognized a Palestinian state. Your ministers
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  Speaker 3: have attacked the Israeli government. Second ministers refused to visit
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  Speaker 3: the sites of the October seven massacres, and you created
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  Speaker 3: a special Islamophobia envoy alongside an anti Semitism envoy. Have
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  Speaker 3: you taken the threat of anti Semitism seriously? And can
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  Speaker 3: you guarantee the safety of Jewish Australians.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, we have taken it seriously, and we've continued to act.
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  Speaker 4: We've continued to work with Jewish community leaders.
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  Speaker 1: The Jewish leaders here and the furious Prime Minister of Israel,
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin Etne. They've also been holding the Prime Minister Responsible
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  Speaker 1: net Ye, who said he warned Albanizi in writing last
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  Speaker 1: August when Albanzi had made its disastrous decision to recognize
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  Speaker 1: the state of Palestine. Nen, you warned in that this
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  Speaker 1: was rewarding the slaughter of twelve hundred Jews by Hamas
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  Speaker 1: Terrists two years ago and would encourage more killings.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote, your call for a Palestinian state pures full
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  Speaker 2: fuel on the antisemitic fire it rewards from Asterism, It
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  Speaker 2: emboldens those who menace Australian Jews and encourages the Jew
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  Speaker 2: hatred now stalk in your streets. You did nothing, and
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  Speaker 2: the result is the horrific attacks on Jews we saw today.
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  Speaker 1: And to that charge Alberizi today had another weak reply.
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  Speaker 4: This is a moment for national unity, This is a
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  Speaker 4: moment for Australians to come together. That's precisely what we will.
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  Speaker 1: Be doing now. Not like the hundreds of readers who
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  Speaker 1: posted comments of our newspaper column today who blamed Alberzi
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  Speaker 1: personally for yesterday's deaths. You know, I got to ask it.
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  Speaker 4: With a bit of.
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  Speaker 1: Word from him, a tougher press release really have stopped
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  Speaker 1: these gunmen who have Pakistani background, the father he is
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  Speaker 1: since ninety nine on a student visa originally, and his
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  Speaker 1: son actually born here getting into his Islamic religious studies.
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  Speaker 1: Again right here, could Albanese really have stopped them? And
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  Speaker 1: yet I cannot deny that Albanese made Jews feel abandoned,
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  Speaker 1: and he made this attack and future ones actually more likely.
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  Speaker 1: He acted recklessly when all the evidence should have screamed
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  Speaker 1: at him, as it has screamed at me for decades,
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  Speaker 1: that this Jew hatred was growing and growing deadly. Did
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  Speaker 1: Albanese not only fail to confront it, he fed that
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  Speaker 1: hatred instead. Now I want to bake this up into
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  Speaker 1: two parts. First the warning signs that this government ignored,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'll go through how the government instead made
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  Speaker 1: this horror more likely. Now we shouldn't actually be surprised
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  Speaker 1: at this massacre, said I happened because many Jews are
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  Speaker 1: feared this for years, as if I and you consider
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  Speaker 1: for decades, even this country's leaders persisted in bringing in
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  Speaker 1: people from war torn, backward tribal countries with very different
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  Speaker 1: values when the odds were, of course that they would
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  Speaker 1: struggle to fit in. And generation of leaders since never learned,
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  Speaker 1: not even when the terrorism attacks started attacks by Muslims,
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  Speaker 1: we'd actually accept it as refugees, like Man Monis, an
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  Speaker 1: Iranian refugee, stated the deadly Lint Cafe siege in twenty
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  Speaker 1: fourteen of Faha Jabba, an Iranian refugee killed police. Account
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  Speaker 1: at Kurtis Cheng, or the Somali born refugee who murdered
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  Speaker 1: a worker in Melbourne shot three police and said this
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  Speaker 1: is for is the Islamic state, this is for al Qa'eda.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Somali refugees stabbed to death of Melbourne
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  Speaker 1: rest return in the Jaharta's attack. Were all the terror
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  Speaker 1: plots that, thank god never happened that Asia and police
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  Speaker 1: managed to disrupt, and all the hate preachers praising jihad,
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  Speaker 1: preaching Jew hatred. And I say it again, given all that,
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  Speaker 1: an attack like the one yesterday began to seem inevitable,
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  Speaker 1: Yet the Albanesi government refused to head the warnings. It
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  Speaker 1: even gave tourism visus to three thousand Palestinians from Gaza
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  Speaker 1: territory controlled by Hamas Islamist terrorists, and then even had
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  Speaker 1: them welcomed at the airport by Home Affairs mister Tony Burke.
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  Speaker 1: It also helped bring back to Australia the Islamic state brides,
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  Speaker 1: and it panded so badly to the Muslim vote that
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  Speaker 1: had treated Israel as an enemy of war criminals, further
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  Speaker 1: feeding that insane jee hatred and hysteria. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a time to list all the oven easy government sins
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  Speaker 1: in this area. You heard that journalist mention a few
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  Speaker 1: of them. I'll add a few more. How about votings
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  Speaker 1: Israel in the United Nations, or recognizing that palestinean state
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  Speaker 1: to the delight of Hamas, or like failing to condemn
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  Speaker 1: notorious hate preachers, refusing to rule out arresting Israel's Prime
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  Speaker 1: minister for war crimes, and relentlessly criticizing Israel every time
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  Speaker 1: it dared to defend itself, And all this while our
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  Speaker 1: streets burned with Jew hatred, burned from just two days
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  Speaker 1: after the mass attack on the Jews which started the
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  Speaker 1: war in Gaza, when anti Israel protesters disrupted a commemoration
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  Speaker 1: for the Israeli dead, a commemoration of the Sydney Opera House,
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  Speaker 1: demanding and said to know where the Jews were, and
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  Speaker 1: the Jew hatred really went off the scale. In those
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  Speaker 1: weekly anti Israel protests. I mean, men in Melbourne were
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  Speaker 1: even carrying the yellow flag of the Hesbela terrorist group
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  Speaker 1: and a portrait of the Hesbela leader, and some chanted
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  Speaker 1: this war cray in Arabic, a warning that the armies
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  Speaker 1: of Mohammad were coming for the Jews. And fifteen people
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  Speaker 1: slaughtered at Hannuka Festival, a festival that was openly advertised.
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  Speaker 1: Where are the Jews? They are here, come and get them.
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  Speaker 1: And then there are the warnings that were missed. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how did the older one of those two killers get
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  Speaker 1: permissioned for not one gun, one long arm, but six six?
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  Speaker 1: And why didn't police or Asio link that astonishing level
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  Speaker 1: of gun ownership to the son who'd attended a troubled
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  Speaker 1: school with many Muslim students and in twenty nineteen had
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  Speaker 1: hung out with very worrying characters as I knew this,
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  Speaker 1: although just what kind of characters they were? The Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister and Home Affairs Minister today refused to say.
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  Speaker 5: That's a question with respect for the Asia Director General,
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  Speaker 5: but that it was people he was associated with rather
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  Speaker 5: than things that he himself had done.
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  Speaker 6: It's the exact same answer that the Prime Minister just
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  Speaker 6: gave that the assessment of Asio was with respect to
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  Speaker 6: his associations, rather than at that point they're big a
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  Speaker 6: personal motivation from him. No, no, no, you're making a whole
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  Speaker 6: lot of extra assumptions. We've given you the information and
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  Speaker 6: that's what we've given you all.
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  Speaker 1: Been so reckless, tragic. And now for the premise to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to stamp out due hatred seriously is not
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  Speaker 1: going to happen, and we're going to muzzle every hate preacher.
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  Speaker 1: Now cut out the pages in the Islamic holy texts
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  Speaker 1: that urge the killing of Jews. Is all too late.
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  Speaker 1: I can't see anything doing much good in fact without
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  Speaker 1: a complete revolution. Far more than that, I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: about slashing immigration from hard to assimilate countries and making
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  Speaker 1: Australia proud again, something that newcomers would love to pledge
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  Speaker 1: allegiance to become a one flag nation again, honor our
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  Speaker 1: past not treated as shameful. Do you think Albanies is
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  Speaker 1: going to agree to all that? How about stripping taxpayer
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  Speaker 1: funding of those who don't just hate Jews but hate
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  Speaker 1: this country. And I tell you even all that will
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  Speaker 1: not now be enough. But we've got to try, because
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  Speaker 1: this attack well, you can see it's already shattered us.
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  Speaker 1: What will another do to our country? I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: a day of horror and, like I say, of shame
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  Speaker 1: and of grief. So many people turned up to Bondeau today,
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  Speaker 1: including our boss here Lochlan Murdoch and his wife Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: to lay flowers. But to me it was incredible to
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  Speaker 1: see that the mourners included the Greens, who flirted with
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  Speaker 1: the jew haters, who refused even to support a motion
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  Speaker 1: condemning the Hamas terrorists slaughtered Jews in Israel. Now they're
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  Speaker 1: at Bondou because, oh well, shooting Jews in Australia. That
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  Speaker 1: is apparently different. Even Green Senator Mirroring Ferruki was there today,
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  Speaker 1: although for once not wearing the kefia she wears in Parliament.
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  Speaker 1: Ferruki the extremists who couldn't even condemn hermas.
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  Speaker 7: We have that.
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  Speaker 8: The Palestinians need to decide where they want to go.
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  Speaker 8: Sure you're able to say where you'd like to see
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  Speaker 8: them gone, and.
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  Speaker 5: It's not up to me to say who should be
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  Speaker 5: gone or not.
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  Speaker 1: So Garthley, to see what my country has become. My
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  Speaker 1: parents came here from Holland sixty seven. Years ago it
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  Speaker 1: came to what they thought was and of peace, so
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  Speaker 1: far from the troubles of war torn Europe. Yet now
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  Speaker 1: that distance between us and foreign troubles has completely vanished
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  Speaker 1: because we have imported those distant wars to our streets
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  Speaker 1: and our beaches through mass immigration, and immigration will, like
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  Speaker 1: it or not, become an even bigger issue. Now, how
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  Speaker 1: did we let the elder gunman Sajid Akram come in
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  Speaker 1: apparently from Pakistan and a student visa and stay here
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  Speaker 1: when this is the same man who yesterday draped this
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  Speaker 1: car with an Islamic state flag and then went hunting Jews.
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  Speaker 1: Opposition leader sus In Leeds is already working on a
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  Speaker 1: tougher immigration policy, new tests to keep out people at
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  Speaker 1: war with our values. She met people Jewishia leaders at
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  Speaker 1: Bondo today and also seem to signal a cultural revolution.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, there is anger. There is palpable anger because anti
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  Speaker 9: Semitism in Australia has been left to festera Many of
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  Speaker 9: us who've been close to the Jewish Australians as I
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  Speaker 9: have been for the last two years, have heard story
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  Speaker 9: after story of hideous anti Semitism. We've seen a clear
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  Speaker 9: failure to keep Jewish Australians safe. We've seen a clear
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  Speaker 9: lack of leadership in keeping Jewish Australians safe. We have
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  Speaker 9: a government that sees anti Semitism as a problem to
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  Speaker 9: be managed, not evil that needs to be eradicated. Everything
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  Speaker 9: must change every.
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  Speaker 1: Single day, Bushy go as far as I think is
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  Speaker 1: absolutely necessary. One politician in particular, really soaring the polls.
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  Speaker 1: She is vowing to make this a very big issue.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson is the leader of one nation and joins
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  Speaker 1: me now, Pauline, thank you for joining me on this
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  Speaker 1: ghastly day after that horrible thing that has shamed our country.
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  Speaker 1: What has happened to Australia, Pauline that for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in our history we get this kind of horrific
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  Speaker 1: mass murder of Jews.
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  Speaker 10: We've turned a blind eye to it. And the politicians
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  Speaker 10: have done this over a number of decades that they've
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  Speaker 10: allowed this to happen. As you've said in your editorial,
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  Speaker 10: what you've said, you know, people they've brought into the country,
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  Speaker 10: even you know forty nine years ago. The wrong people
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  Speaker 10: have been brought in here with the wrong ideology, the
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  Speaker 10: people that will not assimilate into the strain culture and values,
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  Speaker 10: and we're not on the same page. And I've been
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  Speaker 10: speaking about this for many, many years. And when I
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  Speaker 10: spoke out against multiculturalism in nineteen ninety six, you know,
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  Speaker 10: people boohooed me and they said, oh, well, I wouldn't know.
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  Speaker 10: You know, it's all about the food. It's not about
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  Speaker 10: the food, people, It's got nothing to do with the food.
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  Speaker 10: It's about the cultural beliefs. It's about obeying the laws.
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  Speaker 10: It's about assimilating. It's about feeling that you are part
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  Speaker 10: of this country, that you embrace this land, you embrace
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  Speaker 10: your fellow Australians, and people have We've brought the wrong
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  Speaker 10: people here. And I've been speaking about this for so long.
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  Speaker 10: You know, Susan Lee to listen to her. I think
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  Speaker 10: she's pathetic. She doesn't warm me up at all, and
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  Speaker 10: I don't have confidence in her, the same as they
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  Speaker 10: don't have confidence in our Prime minister, who was weak, gutless.
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  Speaker 10: And I've just got no time for them whatsoever. Australians
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  Speaker 10: now were angry last night, they're sad today and they
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  Speaker 10: just don't know where to turn. They don't feel their
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  Speaker 10: safeness country anymore. And they have a right to feel
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  Speaker 10: that way unless we hit strong leadership and we really
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  Speaker 10: turn the focus on who these men are, what the
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  Speaker 10: background is, why were they doing this. It's got nothing
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  Speaker 10: to do with the guns. It's about the ideology that
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  Speaker 10: these men felt and believed in, and that's what we've
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  Speaker 10: got to turn around. Take a good hard look out
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  Speaker 10: our em cration, which I've been on about for years
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  Speaker 10: and years and years. And I feel like chill. I'm
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  Speaker 10: blue in the face. And yet you know, I hear
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  Speaker 10: such weak, pathetic words from you know, the opposition leader
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  Speaker 10: and our Prime minister.
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  Speaker 1: Well you say it's not about the guns. The Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister seems to think he's solved it all. Will solved
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it today. He met other leaders this
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: afternoon and came out and said, well, we now got
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  Speaker 1: tougher gun controls so that people like that old achiller
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  Speaker 1: yesterday can't have six guns and can't have any guns
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  Speaker 1: if they're not an Australian citizen. Now, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: this whole tragedy could be wrapped up this simply and
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  Speaker 1: so quickly, did you.
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  Speaker 10: You know what they're affecting the whole issue and not
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  Speaker 10: he hasn't even said they're Islamic terrorists. Not once have
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  Speaker 10: I heard him say that. So they're defecting the whole
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  Speaker 10: lot about guns. And there you have the farmers, you
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  Speaker 10: have binding shooters out there saying, well, have we got
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  Speaker 10: to take the blame for this? Are we going to
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  Speaker 10: be faced with losing now guns because they didn't do
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  Speaker 10: the right thing as they pointed out and release it.
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  Speaker 11: I put out.
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  Speaker 10: You know, this was a fellow twenty four years of
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  Speaker 10: age that was under azioh. He was investigated, you know,
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  Speaker 10: for radicalization and yet he was living with his father
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  Speaker 10: who had six guns. Why wasn't he investigated? If you've
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  Speaker 10: got a domestic violence you can't be in a house
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  Speaker 10: that has guns. Why was he allowed to be in
• 17:31
  Speaker 10: the house with his father with the guns there? So
• 17:35
  Speaker 10: you know, the Prime Minister is wrong on this point
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  Speaker 10: and I will not support him with changing the gun
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  Speaker 10: laws in Australia with regards to this. The government and
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  Speaker 10: the departments have failed to deal with this issue, to
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  Speaker 10: deal with the young one and living with his father
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  Speaker 10: who had the gun license. So I think they're passing
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  Speaker 10: the buck. I blame the Prime Minister. He's the one
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  Speaker 10: who's got blood on his hands. He has got blood
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  Speaker 10: on his hands. They didn't deal with the whole isshue
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  Speaker 10: the last two years because it because it's been it's
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  Speaker 10: been bubbling over. When I spoke to the Jewish boys
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  Speaker 10: that came to Parliament House and I spoke to them
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  Speaker 10: on the lawns, they were being bullied. We've seen this
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  Speaker 10: happen time and time again. He brought out these these
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  Speaker 10: refugees from Gaza that we know they can't stand each other.
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  Speaker 10: The cultures are totally different. Why bring them out here
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  Speaker 10: to Australia when even Muslim countries wouldn't have them. Why
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  Speaker 10: bring out the isis rides and their children to Australia
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  Speaker 10: when Australians don't want them. Why do we keep bringing
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  Speaker 10: people in the country that are not compatible with our
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  Speaker 10: culture in the way of life. Australians keep asking these questions.
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  Speaker 10: He knew there was an issue with the with the
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  Speaker 10: Jewish people. He said, we don't want division hearing in
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  Speaker 10: our country. He's created the division because he never rained
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  Speaker 10: in these Islamic clerics with the hatred on our streets
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  Speaker 10: and it, you know, and their prayer rooms. It was
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  Speaker 10: the hatred that's kept going on and on, and he
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  Speaker 10: made the Jewish people feel it was their issue, their problem,
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  Speaker 10: they're the cause of all this, which they weren't. And
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  Speaker 10: that's why I stood up for them, and I spoke
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  Speaker 10: up on behalf of the Jewish people who are you know,
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  Speaker 10: Australians here have a right to live in peace and harmony.
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  Speaker 1: Well, just in the corner of the screen viewers, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see that we getting live shots of the visil. We'll
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: keep running as some of that during the evening. You
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  Speaker 1: can see a mountain of flowers. This has really really
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  Speaker 1: affected Australian's Pauline, but I think it should have and
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: perhaps it shouldn't have come such a shock given I
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  Speaker 1: think this was years in the making. But Pauline Hansen,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. Now we know
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  Speaker 1: the names of some of the victims. So far, they
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  Speaker 1: include Matilda just ten years old, Alexander Klagmann, Dan El Kayan,
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  Speaker 1: Peter Maher, Rabbi Eli Schlanger, one of two Rabbis Reuven Morrison,
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  Speaker 1: Rabbi Yakov Levitan Tibor Weitzen.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, there's sore more that we're going to hear from.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, not all the names have been released. Than
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  Speaker 1: God spare any more names being added to the dead,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: because they've still got a lot of people in hospital.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I should say something about the heroes, and we saw
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: yesterday there was from the police two officers now in
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a critical condition in hospital trying to save their fellow citizens.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Also the courage of the many people who helped the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: injured while bullets were flying, and especially the courages of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a civilian, Ahmed al Ahmed, who pounced on the eldest
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: of the two gunmen and even disarmed him. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: shoot him, maybe he was out of bullets, and then
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  Speaker 1: he was shot at by the younger of the killers.
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  Speaker 1: He was hit twice. Yes, yes, Ahmed is himself a
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Muslim and a hero, an Australian hero who I hope
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: will never have to buy lunch in this town again,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: in this country again. It should be fated everywhere he
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: goes as a symbol of what we can be. But
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: let me be blunt to those saying that, see, if
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: we restrict an immigration from Muslim countries, we wouldn't get
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: a fine Australian like O Ahmed, and they are right,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that would be our loss. That said, we also wouldn't
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: have got the killers and one hero doesn't bring back
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: all they're victims after the break, more than one thousand
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Jews celebrating on Bundo Beach at a time of so
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: many extremists and threats, why weren't they're more police.
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: To protect them?
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: Now?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Another question about yesterday that I heard some Jewish leaders
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: ask as well, why were there so few police to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: protect the year thousand or one thousand or so Jews
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: who were at that Hannuka celebration when we know there
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: have been hate preachers gloating at the murder of Jews
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: in Israel two years ago, like Sydney Shaik Ibrahim Dadoun
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: back then.
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  Speaker 6: I'm smiling and I'm happy.
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  Speaker 13: I'm that's a day of courage.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And even the police that were at the Hannukah celebration
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: trying to guard it, the few that were there were
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: armed only with handguns against men I think brought about
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: seven long guns at them, shotguns and the rest high
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: performance rifles, I mean seriously, and wonder they couldn't get
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: close enough at first to take them out much sooner.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: But the most heater is on the Minister of having
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: seemed to abandon Jews and today though he claim to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: stand by.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Them, because this is a time where all Australians need
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: to wrap our arms around Jewish Australians. So we stand
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: with them, we stand against anti Semitism. We will do
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: whatever is necessary to stamp it out. Any Semitism as
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: a scourg it's been around for a long period of time.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Join mister Panell, Michael Kroger, former Victorian Liberal presidents and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Stephen Conroy, former Labor Senator and cabinet minister. Michael Anthony
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Obernezi receiving a lot of criticism. Does he deserve it?
• 23:40
  Speaker 14: Does he deserve it?
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 23:43
  Speaker 14: Of course he does. This has all happened on his watch.
• 23:46
  Speaker 14: And he says, well, if I hear one more time, Andrew,
• 23:50
  Speaker 14: we stand against andy Semitism, We'll do whatever we need
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: to do. He's been in charge for two years, Andrew,
• 23:56
  Speaker 14: We've now had Jews murdered on the streets of Sydney.
• 24:00
  Speaker 14: As he deserves it. Of course he does. The first
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: thing this guy ought to do is go to Israel.
• 24:05
  Speaker 14: I don't want to hear another word from him or
• 24:07
  Speaker 14: Wong or Burke unless I hear them speaking in the
• 24:11
  Speaker 14: ashes amongst the ashes at Kafaraza. When I see Alberanizi's
• 24:15
  Speaker 14: standing there talking about Jews and standing with Jews, then
• 24:19
  Speaker 14: I'll start to believe him. He needs to run a
• 24:22
  Speaker 14: national advertising campaign. The federal government should spend the next
• 24:26
  Speaker 14: two years on a national advertising campaign print, TV, radio,
• 24:32
  Speaker 14: online publicizing what Jewish hatred means and why we are
• 24:37
  Speaker 14: against it. He needs to have a national commission of
• 24:41
  Speaker 14: elder Australian, of older Australians, you know, former prime ministers
• 24:44
  Speaker 14: and premiers dealing with anti Semitism. He needs to show
• 24:49
  Speaker 14: the idea video Andrew where Jews were slaughtered and beheaded
• 24:53
  Speaker 14: by these Palestinian Hamas savages. That should be shown in
• 24:58
  Speaker 14: every school to year twelve students at every university in
• 25:01
  Speaker 14: the arts institutions. Any organization receiving federal government funds should
• 25:07
  Speaker 14: be forced to watch the IDF video if you want
• 25:10
  Speaker 14: to deal with what Jewish hatred.
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: Is all about.
• 25:13
  Speaker 14: And of course we should send the refugees from Garza home.
• 25:17
  Speaker 14: We should strengthen the character test and the Migration Act immediately.
• 25:21
  Speaker 14: I mean Jason would and a number of liberals tried
• 25:23
  Speaker 14: to do this in twenty nineteen to make it easy
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: to deport people on visas and the Labor Party voted
• 25:29
  Speaker 14: against it twice.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: Twice.
• 25:30
  Speaker 14: They voted against it right twice, Albanisi in those days,
• 25:35
  Speaker 14: there needs to be the immediate limentation of Siegel. Obviously,
• 25:40
  Speaker 14: that's been on his desk for seven months, and on
• 25:44
  Speaker 14: it goes. There's so many things that the government could
• 25:47
  Speaker 14: do urgently about face masks and demonstrations, et cetera, et cetera.
• 25:52
  Speaker 14: What's this guy done? Nothing? Nothing. He stands there and says,
• 25:56
  Speaker 14: I've given a few shekels to some Jewish organizations. They
• 25:59
  Speaker 14: should feel happy, happy, that's what he's done. And now
• 26:02
  Speaker 14: we get Jews slaughtered in Sydney Andrew. Should he be blamed, Yes,
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: of course he should.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: We've just got a vision of former Prime Minister Scott
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Morrison laying his wreath at this very moving memorial site
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: at Bundo Beach Stephen. There's a lot of anger. Some
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: will say it's too soon after the shootings, but boy,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of anger among the Jewish community. How
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: much is the Prime Minister responsible? I think saying blood
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: on his hands, I hate that. I think that's far
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: too much, far too much and too heavy a charge.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: But what do you think?
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: Well, firstly, my heart does that to remember the Australian
• 26:51
  Speaker 11: Jewish community what they're going through at the moment. To
• 26:55
  Speaker 11: feel that you can't walk safely in the streets of
• 26:58
  Speaker 11: Australia is a shameful thing for our country. All Australians
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: deserve to feel safe. In terms of I agree with
• 27:07
  Speaker 11: some of what Michael said there about a national education
• 27:10
  Speaker 11: and information campaign so Australians absolutely understand what has gone on.
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: So I absolutely agree with Michael on that. I think
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: that's where I think I agree with him. I think
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: it's important to implement the Seagull recommendations. I think the
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: government has to send the most unambiguous message to those
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: hate preachers that it is over. It is unacceptable. They
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: have to call it out, they have to be seen
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: to call it out. They have to take action to
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: ban organizations that preach and encourage this behavior, the statements,
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: and they have to do it quickly. It is just
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: not acceptable that these rants, these anti Semitic Jew hating rants,
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: are able to be allowed and tolerated.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Enough is enough, Michael. You know, I agree for the
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: dead and the injured and people who suffered so much
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: loss yesterday. And you know what, I also makes me
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: cry to think of what has happened to Australia. I
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: mean in our lifetime that we've come to this. Where
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: did we go so wrong?
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: So Andrew, there's no doubt the character of this country
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: has changed. And I think it's fair to say now
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: the multicultural experiment is being torn asunder by people who
• 28:48
  Speaker 14: don't share Western values. It's not to say their culture
• 28:53
  Speaker 14: is no good, it's just different. They like the culture
• 28:57
  Speaker 14: of their countries, even though a lot of them have
• 28:59
  Speaker 14: come here. It's just a different culture. We like the
• 29:02
  Speaker 14: Western way of life, we like the Westminster system of government.
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: We like freedom, democracy, religious freedom, tolerance, madship. We're proud
• 29:11
  Speaker 14: of our country and its history. We're not faultless, of course,
• 29:14
  Speaker 14: not what country is. But people who come to Australia
• 29:17
  Speaker 14: that want to set up enclaves, that's fine. But if
• 29:23
  Speaker 14: you're not going to integrate into this country then it's
• 29:27
  Speaker 14: just not working. And it's not working yesterday will change
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: this country forever. And if the message from Albanesi two
• 29:35
  Speaker 14: years ago had been a strong message, as it would
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: have been under Howard Morrison, Turnbull, Shorten or Gillard, then
• 29:47
  Speaker 14: we wouldn't be in this position today. All of those
• 29:50
  Speaker 14: five former prime ministers would have come out on day
• 29:53
  Speaker 14: one and day one had been very strong against anti Semitism,
• 29:58
  Speaker 14: Jewish hatred and taken very strong action. But Andrew, what's
• 30:01
  Speaker 14: happened over the last two years has been this dog whistling,
• 30:05
  Speaker 14: this dog whistling against Jews, against Israel, wink wink at
• 30:09
  Speaker 14: the UN, wink wink in donations, wink winkin criticize them.
• 30:13
  Speaker 14: Net You remember Penny one was asked, would you arrest
• 30:17
  Speaker 14: Benjamin netnya who if she if he came to Australia,
• 30:20
  Speaker 14: She wouldn't say no, she said, remember she said, we
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: have we have to be bound by international law. The
• 30:25
  Speaker 14: Foreign Minister thinks the Israeli Prime minister should have arrested
• 30:29
  Speaker 14: if it was. This is what I'm saying about the
• 30:31
  Speaker 14: dog whistling, the dog whistling against against Jews.
• 30:37
  Speaker 11: Make one final point. It isn't one for government to try,
• 30:42
  Speaker 11: thank you. It isn't good enough for the government to
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: try and assert that the level of anti Islamophobia can
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: possibly be matched by what has been going on and
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: what has just happened. Correct, That is not an argument
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: that is sustainable today going forward. It's struggled to be
• 31:03
  Speaker 11: sustainable up to now. It is absolutely unsustainable from yesterday
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: going forward.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Correct, Stephen Conory were very well said, thank you so much.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Totally in agreement with you. Michael Kroger, thank you very
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: much to you both. After the break, Donald Trump weighs
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: in on the Bondeo massacre. Who is really to blame
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: apart from the killers themselves? Both the King and Britain's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Prime Minister have expressed their shock of the Bondeo massacres,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: so did US President Donald Trump.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: Likewise, in Australia, as you know, there was a terrible attack,
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: eleven dead, twenty nine badly wounded, and that was an
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: antisemitic attack obviously, and that I just want to pay
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: my respects to everybody, but to Australian, the Prime Minister,
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: to everybody that we know so well, we get along
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: so well, we have a great relationship.
• 32:02
  Speaker 15: That's a terrible situation going on over there. Think of
• 32:06
  Speaker 15: that you probably read if it's been it's been a
• 32:10
  Speaker 15: very very brave person actually who went and attacked frontally
• 32:16
  Speaker 15: one of the shooters and saved a lot of lives.
• 32:19
  Speaker 15: So very brave person who's right now in the hospital.
• 32:22
  Speaker 15: Pretty seriously wounded, so great respect to that man that
• 32:27
  Speaker 15: did that. But we're here for a different reason.
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: We're here to celebrate Christmas and to celebrate and I
• 32:36
  Speaker 16: think today we can verse say loudly we celebrate Hanukkah
• 32:41
  Speaker 16: because that was such a horrible attack, that was a
• 32:43
  Speaker 16: purely anti Semitic attack.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Luckily that here we showed you earlier disarming one of
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the gunmen has not very seriously wounded, So that's one
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: very bit of good news. Donald Trump wasn't political about
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: what he'd seen, but influential Republicans Senator Lindsay Graham, he
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: sure was.
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: For the Australian government. You let your people down.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Every Western government who's recognized a Palestinian state, you're rewarding
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: killing Jews.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Joining me is the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Sheridan of The Australian Greg very very few countries outside
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Israel have had such a bloody terrorist attack on their Jews.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: What does that say about us?
• 33:30
  Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, it's good to be with you on that
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: very somber day. This is a terrible day for Australian Jews,
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: but it's a terrible day for Australia. This is a
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: really terrible day for Australia. Australia thirty or forty years
• 33:45
  Speaker 12: ago was probably the safest country in the world for Jews.
• 33:49
  Speaker 12: We didn't have these historic hatreds from the Old World.
• 33:53
  Speaker 12: John Monash was the most important Jewish military leader since
• 33:57
  Speaker 12: biblical times. Sir Isaac the first Australian born governor general
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: in the nineteen thirties when anti Semitism was roiling through Europe.
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: But we have imported now left wing antisemitism through our universities,
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: and we've imported Islamist anti semitism through a minority of
• 34:16
  Speaker 12: our Islamic migrants. And I've been writing for two years
• 34:22
  Speaker 12: trying to get the Albaneza government to realize there are
• 34:25
  Speaker 12: two crises. There's a national crisis of anti Semitism and
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: a global crisis of antisemitism. But I think the Alberanesi
• 34:32
  Speaker 12: government has been appalling, woeful and culpable in its management
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: of the situation. That has not given any moral leadership,
• 34:40
  Speaker 12: that has not recognized the seriousness of the problem. And
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: I think it's been motivated by cynical vote gathering, not
• 34:47
  Speaker 12: only amongst Muslim voters, but amongst inner city voters who
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: have gone to our corrupted universities and come out with
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: a blind hatred of Israel, which shades over into antisemitism.
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: We can never go back before this day, a changed
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: nation forever because of this horror.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: You're quite right to underline the role of universities and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the left. It's not all you know, Muslim immigrants at all.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: I mean there's the preaching anti capitalists, anti West, anti
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Israel in the universities which is just so toxic, so destructive.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Now the Albanize government has been so critical of Israel
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and how Israel fights isms, enemies, et cetera. To negotiate
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: is if you couldn't negotiate with people who actually want
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: your dead. Will this attack teach our government now what
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Israel is up again? So how do you expect dis
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: government to change?
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: I think probably not. This is a doleful conclusion. The
• 35:49
  Speaker 12: history of these atrocities is that the sympathy for Jews
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: evaporates pretty quickly. Not only that, although I think the
• 35:59
  Speaker 12: demonized of Israel by our government has certainly had the
• 36:03
  Speaker 12: effect of demonizing Australian Jews. So the government is culpable
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: for this irresponsibility in the way that it has managed
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: the situation. I mean, the result is a massacre of Jews.
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: The government is responsible for policy. The policy has failed,
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: so the government is responsible for that failure. However, it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 12: not necessary to support everything that Israel does all the time.
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: I mean, I'm a lifelong supporter of Israel. I love Israel,
• 36:30
  Speaker 12: I'm inspired by Israel. But I don't think all the
• 36:32
  Speaker 12: actions of the net Nyahu government have been justified in
• 36:35
  Speaker 12: this matter, nor do I think the actions of settlers
• 36:38
  Speaker 12: or Ben Gevere or spot Ridge. But in criticizing them, no,
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: Australian Jew is responsible for the policy of the Israeli government.
• 36:48
  Speaker 12: And you can criticize the government of Israel without demonizing
• 36:51
  Speaker 12: the government of Israel. So we're apparently happy never to
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: say boo about China, which is just in prison, a
• 36:59
  Speaker 12: whole swag of Christian pastors and so on. Don't say
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: boodh a goose about that, ever, But because it affects
• 37:06
  Speaker 12: their internal party politics, and because Israel won't strike us back,
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: the Albanesi government can read lectures extravagant moral lectures to
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: Israel which have the effect of demonizing Israel and demonizing
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: Australian Jews. Now, if the Albanesi government would just shut
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: up about the Middle East. That would be a great
• 37:26
  Speaker 12: step forward. They can have no beneficial effect on the
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: Middle East with anything they do in policy, So how
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: about they pay a bit of attention to the mess
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: they've made in Australia and leave the Middle East to
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: sort out its own problems.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Funny how recognizing Palasinian state has brought us absolutely no peace,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: dividend whatsoever. Instead, it's contributed to this toxic, lethal atmosphere
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: of hatred. Greg Sheridan, thank you so much for your time.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Really appreciated, looking forward to reading more of your pieces
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: in the Australian. Thank you so much. Unbelievable after the break,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I ask and Jews ask, why did it take this
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: horror for so many Australians to finally.
• 38:15
  Speaker 17: See this is what it's taken for Australians to finalist
• 38:21
  Speaker 17: that happens to peak up because we have felt so alone.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Now I've long been critical of our top Muslim organizations
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and their failure to confront Islamist extremism. I mean, they
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even condemn the Hamas terrorist group and the anniversary
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: of the October seventh slaughter of twelve hundred Israelis, but
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: this time the Australian National Imam's Council has condemned this
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: attack on Jews. His said stood in solidarity with Australian Jews,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: although adding was also an attack on the Muslim community.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: The funny thing is that I've just seen an uploaded
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: statement it seems to be replacing this one saying deplauds
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the attack and attack doesn't mention Jews at all, which
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: is weird anyway. The Council's Bill l Ralph went on
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: radio to warn the media not to attack the Muslim community.
• 39:17
  Speaker 18: Depends on our political leaders, It depends on our media.
• 39:22
  Speaker 18: It depends upon how we discuss and engage and respond
• 39:27
  Speaker 18: with what has occurred, whether we pursue divisive or incendiary
• 39:35
  Speaker 18: narratives and rhetoric, whether we start attacking groups of people,
• 39:41
  Speaker 18: or whether we see it for what it is, which
• 39:44
  Speaker 18: is a horrific attack against Australians, Australian Jewish people, etc.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Jewish people etc. The most powerful interview I saw all
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: day though, was by scone new host Nika Di Giorgio
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: interviewing Jews at Bondo today.
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: You're wearing You're Never Again is now t shirt?
• 40:06
  Speaker 19: Today Why I bought this T shirt after October seven
• 40:14
  Speaker 19: and today you walking around Bondi, It's exactly like.
• 40:18
  Speaker 17: What October eighth felt like. It was eerie, it was quieted.
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: In the Jewish.
• 40:26
  Speaker 19: Community are thinking, people are gonna.
• 40:29
  Speaker 17: I'd ask you if we need to do we need
• 40:31
  Speaker 17: to go? Where can we go? This is what it's
• 40:34
  Speaker 17: taken for Australians.
• 40:37
  Speaker 13: To finally stand up and to beak up because we
• 40:40
  Speaker 13: have felt so alone, like we have felt so alone,
• 40:44
  Speaker 13: you know, like only we can understand this trauma and
• 40:48
  Speaker 13: the opera house steps.
• 40:50
  Speaker 17: The five bombings, the vandalism, walking.
• 40:53
  Speaker 19: Around, seeing stickers everywhere people, you know, the car's coming
• 40:59
  Speaker 19: from other suburbs with the flags flying, and you know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 19: and I think Australians have honestly thought that this was
• 41:05
  Speaker 19: just a Jewish problem, and now I think they've woken
• 41:08
  Speaker 19: up and it's taken you know, fifteen of our community members.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Joining me is the panel, both Jews. Michael Danby, former
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Federal Labor MP David Adler, former head of the Austrange
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Jewish Association. Gentlemen, I'm so sorry to have left you
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: so little time. We've had so much to cover. But Michael,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: is that a common feeling among Jews that it's taken
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: this for Australians finally to see what they've been going through.
• 41:38
  Speaker 20: It's absolutely a common feeling. The zeitgeist in Australia has
• 41:41
  Speaker 20: changed since previous governments. Under this government we've now had,
• 41:47
  Speaker 20: so we've got a million Muslim immigrants. Five percent are
• 41:51
  Speaker 20: vulnerable to extremism. That's fifty fifty thousand. See a change
• 41:57
  Speaker 20: government that let's in isis Bride, that let's in three
• 42:01
  Speaker 20: thousand unvetted or barely vetted Gazans and gives one hundred
• 42:06
  Speaker 20: and thirty million dollars to Undra. They perceive that the
• 42:09
  Speaker 20: atmosphere has changed and they feel embold in and empowered.
• 42:13
  Speaker 20: And every Jew in Australia and every person of sensitivity
• 42:16
  Speaker 20: must see that this is the effect of the government's policies.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: David Adler, where do Jews feel safe now? If you
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: can't even feel safe in Australia, we haven't got we
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: haven't got him. We'll come back to him, Michael, I'll
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: ask that question of you. Where are Jews safe now?
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 42:43
  Speaker 20: The ironic thing is that so many people are considering
• 42:47
  Speaker 20: travel plans to go to Israel now that the war
• 42:50
  Speaker 20: there is basically over. Many people say they feel safer
• 42:53
  Speaker 20: walking around the streets of Tel Aviv than they do
• 42:56
  Speaker 20: down in Bondai. It's a sad reflection in Australian and
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  Speaker 20: Greg Eridan was perfectly right in your previous segment to
• 43:04
  Speaker 20: Andrew when he said, this is a terrible effect in Australia.
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  Speaker 20: How do you think people all over the world perceive Sydney.
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  Speaker 20: How do you think they even from the narrow point
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  Speaker 20: of view of tourism, would they want to come here
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  Speaker 20: with these people being let rampant? Of course not. It's
• 43:18
  Speaker 20: just a terrible It began with that, the failure of
• 43:21
  Speaker 20: the police to act against those people chanting gas the
• 43:25
  Speaker 20: Jews on the steps of our iconic opera house. These people,
• 43:28
  Speaker 20: this five percent of extremists of a certain community, have
• 43:33
  Speaker 20: defamed all of Australia and they've continued until this day.
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  Speaker 1: David, what has happened to your country?
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  Speaker 8: Well, what's happened to the country is that we have
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: been portrayed. The bipartisan policy that existed when Michael Danby
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: was in Parliament is no longer. And I was invited
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: to Israel by the Israeli gan thement earlier this year
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: in order to participate in the Israeli government Anti Semitism
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  Speaker 8: summit and to give the Australian briefing the Australian perspective,
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: and in order to prepare I listed in a document
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: over twenty major hostile decisions, hostile to Israel and hostile
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: to the Jewish community. It is something that we have
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: never imagined would occur in a friendly country. From the
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: withdrawal of recognition of Jerusalem in part as capital of Israel,
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: through to the UN voting through to the condemnation repeatedly
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: of Israel beginning October seven when the Foreign Minister Penny
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: Wong insisted on restraint by Israel when it was under
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: unrestrained terrorist attack. And it's just continued, and it's built
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: later upon layer upon layer, and this is the result
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: of it.
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  Speaker 1: But David, we saw with the terror attacks in France
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: against the Jews and others there a great flight of
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Jews to Israel. Do you see that any sign of
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: that sort of thing happening here?
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: Yes, we do see a sign of it. And let
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: me tell you that behind the scenes, Israel's a very
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: clever country and they have recently put in place additional
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: incentives for successful Jews to move to Israel. I suspect
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: that it was in large part directed towards the New
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: York Jews as a result of the change in political
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: environment there, but it applies equally to the Australian Jews.
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  Speaker 8: And I know many people who are looking at those incentives,
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: and there are now both push and pull factors for
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: people in the Jewish community to consider a move to Israel.
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  Speaker 8: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if in the
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: next year or two or three we see maybe even
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: a few thousand of our best people moving.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: What a tragy, What an indictment of this country. David Adam,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Michael Danby. I'm so sorry to keep you so short
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: on a day when I know your heart's are full,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: But let's talk later. Thank you. That's it for me.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Coming up now, Sherry Markson, who's hosting her own show
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: from Bondai after covering yesterday's terrible, terrible events and so well,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: despite the trauma of seeing fellow Jews murdered, give your
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: attention for me. Good night,