Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / George Carneal: Marxist LGBTQ ‘Revolution’ Progressing As Planned
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Fiorazo.
- 0:20God bless you, brothers and sisters, friends, new viewers, thank you so much for tuning
- 0:25into World View Matters.
- 0:26I've got a troublemaker for the Kingdom of God like I do every day on this podcast, another
- 0:30one, author and advocate for sanity and common sense and reason, and former LGBTQ in that
- 0:39community.
- 0:40George Carniel is with us.
- 0:41I want to direct you to his book because we've had him on the show before, but it's called
- 0:45From Queer to Christ, my journey into the light, and he spent decades in Southern California
- 0:53after being raised in his Christian home.
- 0:55He got into the gay lifestyle, and we'll talk a little bit about that.
- 0:59We have a lot of very relevant stories on that topic, and let's bring in George Carniel
- 1:03right now.
- 1:04Brother, welcome to World View Matters.
- 1:05Good to see you again.
- 1:06Good to see you, David.
- 1:07Thank you for having me back.
- 1:09You're very welcome.
- 1:10I love your voice, your spoken truth, and you articulate it clearly, and with passion,
- 1:16and you don't hold back, even with criticisms of the left and the demonic entities, individuals,
- 1:23corporations.
- 1:24I want to direct people to your website, GeorgeCarniel.com, and we're going to start with some
- 1:30good news, George, because there's not a lot of it out there.
- 1:34If you go through the headlines and talk about the things from a biblical worldview perspective,
- 1:39there is something that's very interesting.
- 1:41England has made a move.
- 1:44The National Health Service, NIH in England, is banning puberty blockers for minors.
- 1:51Now George and I briefly talked about this story yesterday, and a message or email exchange.
- 1:57And what's interesting about this is they are now they're saying in England, and usually
- 2:04England is ahead as far as the progressive and the left and the walkeness, and they're
- 2:10saying, okay, there's not enough evidence of safety and clinical effectiveness in puberty
- 2:17blockers, and the article goes on, but George, very interesting that England seems to get it,
- 2:23and they made this move, your thoughts.
- 2:24It's about time, and I know that there are other countries over in Europe as well who are
- 2:30starting to rethink this position, which is interesting, because as you and I said earlier,
- 2:35it's interesting because they are very progressive and very liberal, very supportive of the LGBTQ
- 2:40agenda.
- 2:42So that's good news, and hopefully they will start listening to the detransitioners and their
- 2:47cries and sounding the alarm of what is happening to them as a result of these cross-sex hormones
- 2:53to puberty blockers and the cross-sex surgeries.
- 2:56Well, they're not getting the headlines, the detransitioners, those who have left the LGBTQ,
- 3:03the people like yourself, from queer to Christ, people that, oh, wait a minute, so George,
- 3:07you weren't born that way?
- 3:09You were just in that lifestyle for a while, and you left, and people are confused by that
- 3:13because of the narrative, the media, the talking points, and what Hollywood puts out,
- 3:17what our own government puts out.
- 3:19So when you get something like this, they're going, okay, detransitioners, what is that?
- 3:24Because you don't hear, we don't have honest journalists, we don't have true journalism in
- 3:28America. They don't talk about those stories when people are now free, and many of them have come
- 3:35to Christ, but there are a lot of detransitioners, I mean, Laura Perry,
- 3:39Small says talked about that frequently in the last couple of years.
- 3:42She said, they are screaming these detransitioners, a lot of them saying, why didn't you stop me,
- 3:48for example, before I had my breast cut off or something?
- 3:51They're actually saying, why didn't you say something?
- 3:54Why did you send me to a counselor who just encouraged this?
- 3:57Go ahead, I know you have a lot to share about this.
- 4:00Well, first of all, it's a money racket.
- 4:02The medical community is getting insanely rich off of this.
- 4:06They don't care about the children.
- 4:07I'm so sick and tired of hearing that they care about the children.
- 4:11If they did, they would at least allow both sides to be heard,
- 4:14where people can make very informed decisions before going down this path.
- 4:18And even with voices like mine and so many other XLGBT individuals who are trying to sound the
- 4:23alarm, even the reality of the homosexual lifestyle, our voices are silenced at every turn.
- 4:29And I think that's what's so disheartening is because,
- 4:32at least from the gay men that I hear from all around the world,
- 4:35when they do stumble upon my story, they will email me and say,
- 4:39I'm so glad that you're saying this.
- 4:41And they say, I am so miserable in this lifestyle,
- 4:43and I don't see any hope of getting out of it.
- 4:46People are really hurting.
- 4:47But again, as you know, David, some are not going to listen,
- 4:50and they want to go ahead first into that lifestyle that's fine.
- 4:54But I believe it's so important for each individual to know
- 4:58that there is an opposing side and we are sharing our stories and sounding the alarm
- 5:02and they deserve to hear those stories.
- 5:04I have yet to get a phone call from Oprah since she wants to talk about my aha moment.
- 5:10Maybe that call is coming down the pike.
- 5:13Yeah, that's funny.
- 5:14I think you made our whole audience laugh with that one.
- 5:17Yeah, like Oprah is going to call you,
- 5:19or a detransitioner, or someone who left the popular, you know,
- 5:24cult, the lifestyle, the LGBTQ.
- 5:27So George, a lot of relevant stories that we've got to talk about before we get to the next one.
- 5:32And let's just jump ahead to this one from World magazine.
- 5:37This is where the transgender movement is going.
- 5:41So a prominent magazine makes the, quote, moral case
- 5:45for letting trans kids change their bodies and makes it the cover store.
- 5:50Now it's interesting.
- 5:50This almost maybe on the surface, it goes against what England has done,
- 5:54what other countries have done.
- 5:55They're saying, wait a minute.
- 5:57Let's ban puberty blockers for minors.
- 5:59But we haven't gotten the memo here in the US yet.
- 6:03George, before we quote this article,
- 6:06I want you to share a little bit of your struggle with, I don't know if you were aware of what
- 6:11it was called.
- 6:12I guess they've named it gender dysphoria now.
- 6:15At the time, you were struggling with it, maybe cross-dressing.
- 6:18It was popular, was kind of like, who was it?
- 6:22Walt Hire, former transgender.
- 6:24He says it was exhilarating.
- 6:25Just putting on women's clothes and being another person.
- 6:28So you struggled with that a little bit during those years in Southern California.
- 6:32Just share about that.
- 6:33Well, it was really when I was a child.
- 6:35In my preteen years, I would grab my mom's high heels shoes and my sister's clothes.
- 6:40And I would just, I would block myself in the bedroom
- 6:44and put on their clothes and wear the high heels.
- 6:47I will tell you, David, for me, and I didn't know that it was called gender dysphoria.
- 6:52All I knew was that if I could have been a girl, then God would love me.
- 6:56Maybe my father would love me because he seemed to have more affinity toward little
- 7:01girls than little boys.
- 7:02He was not very demonstrative in his love with me, even with my brothers.
- 7:07And then lastly, I thought, well, then if I was a girl, then I could have a boyfriend
- 7:11and then it would be okay with God because I wanted to love and be loved.
- 7:16But as I later found out, thank God that most of the people who struggle with gender dysphoria,
- 7:22by the time they push through puberty and they hit 18, 19 years of age,
- 7:26about 80% of the individuals push through that gender dysphoria.
- 7:30And I'm very glad to be a man.
- 7:32And I will tell you, quickly, I actually did an interview with a woman who was very much a tomboy
- 7:37when she was a kid.
- 7:39And thank God we grew up at the time we did because we would have fallen for this madness
- 7:44and destroyed our lives.
- 7:45But today she very much loves being feminine and being a lady and wearing dresses
- 7:49and I love being a man.
- 7:51So we've got to really stop allowing children to make decisions that are life altering.
- 7:55This is insidious and it's destructive.
- 8:00So this article, George, is by Albert Moeller, Jr.
- 8:04And it is over at World Magazine.
- 8:06And I want to just want to quote him to start off.
- 8:08He says, we did see this coming with relentless energy.
- 8:13The revolutionaries, and that's what they are.
- 8:15Their Marxist revolutionaries have bulldozed through the culture,
- 8:19breaking down one moral barrier after another.
- 8:24And all in the name of sexual and moral liberation.
- 8:28First, the revolution came for heterosexual relations.
- 8:31Primarily sex was normalized.
- 8:33And then extramarital sex followed.
- 8:36Adultery came, became in a fair.
- 8:39And an entire system of sexual morality cracked, then he says it broke.
- 8:45So George, let's speak to this for a minute or however long you want to,
- 8:50because back in the 50s and 60s, while Margaret Sanger was doing,
- 8:56working on her demonic movement in Alfred Kinsey was doing his demonic sexologist.
- 9:01You know, and he was a bisexual atheist pedophile and other descriptions.
- 9:07But this was happening in the 60s and just make love, not war, just have sex, adultery.
- 9:14This was before the homosexual movement really took off.
- 9:19So your thoughts on that, because I think Albert Mourler starts it off very accurately.
- 9:24Yeah, it has been a slow decline, even since the 60s, with the advent,
- 9:27or with, you know, feminism and the free love.
- 9:31And then, as you say, you know, just extramarital affairs and then look at,
- 9:36it was just gay rights. And then now we've, look at where we are today with transgender.
- 9:40And now they're starting to push the pedophilia side of things in polyamory.
- 9:44And I don't know if you know this, but even in Germany, the bestialitis were demanding
- 9:49that bestiality sex with animals be made legal. They, I don't believe they've done that yet,
- 9:54but Spain did finally pass a law that bestiality is legal.
- 9:59So this is where we're headed. It was just a slippery slope.
- 10:02And this was never about equal rights as much as it was about special rights.
- 10:07And, you know, we, we should get more rights.
- 10:11And we're going to put down the others who don't agree with this.
- 10:13So this is not about equality. This is about domination.
- 10:16And then shutting us up, especially the Christians.
- 10:19And I think that everyone who supports this, and even with the legal system,
- 10:25this is their way of giving Christians the thumb, I mean, the middle finger.
- 10:29And just basically saying, we're going to tell you what to do.
- 10:32And you're going to like it. And if not, we'll destroy your life.
- 10:34It's really sad, even the cases in Ohio, Indiana, Texas, and Montana,
- 10:40where children are having their, where Christian parents are having their children
- 10:44removed from the homes for not affirming the transgender ideology.
- 10:49It's, it's alarming.
- 10:51Yes. And I want you to make sure, friends, that you understood what George just said.
- 10:55It is happening.
- 10:57And it's not going to stay just in the big cities, right?
- 11:01More goes on. He says he said in a matter of decades, marriage was redefined.
- 11:06And humanity's most basic institution was expanded to include same-sex couples.
- 11:11And he said that something very interesting, George, they gained so much ground so fast
- 11:16that even the revolutionaries and the LGBTQ activists were astounded.
- 11:22And then something happened on the way to the pride parade.
- 11:26The T in LGBTQ became the issue.
- 11:32And what he said, George, as you comment on this, Americans are increasingly not
- 11:36buying the argument that medical intervention, like hormone blockers and surgeries,
- 11:41anyway, is in any way appropriate for children and teenagers.
- 11:46So it seems like the left has overplayed their hand.
- 11:49They pushed it too far. What are your thoughts?
- 11:52They not only overplayed their hand. When they started going for the children,
- 11:56that's where the backlash came. David, I will tell you years ago, even before I left the lifestyle,
- 12:01I kind of knew where this was headed before the trans thing came on board.
- 12:05And I was telling people, this is going to backfire in the face of the LGBT
- 12:09or the gay lesbian community, that the rights that they've made,
- 12:14people are going to start to turn on them and people are fed up.
- 12:17I don't know if you know this, David.
- 12:19And this is encouraging to me. When I look at social media comments about these articles,
- 12:24there are plenty of gays and lesbians who've had enough of the trans ideology.
- 12:28They actually want the children left alone. They're sick of the gay pride parades.
- 12:32They say, we don't need special rights. I don't feel threatened. Nobody's trying to keep me down.
- 12:36Nobody's trying to kill me. Even they are fed up with it.
- 12:39And I know the lesbian community is especially fed up with the trans community.
- 12:43Even the drag queens are saying we can't even tell jokes anymore because
- 12:47everybody's so butt hurt by anything that you say.
- 12:50They are really fed up with these social justice warriors and these big crybabies.
- 12:55Well, it took them to push so far for so many decades.
- 12:58Then finally, I don't know about five years ago. Don't quote me on that.
- 13:02But more parents start showing up to school board meetings.
- 13:06And more parents start saying, wait a minute, it's not a good idea to have a man dress like a
- 13:10raunchy woman come in and read to my kids at a public library.
- 13:13More parents started to push back. I think it was too late.
- 13:17But it's interesting. He says, and conclude the article,
- 13:21a far more fundamental level. It's about a battle for the hearts, minds, and the bodies of our children.
- 13:28We had better know what we are up against. And as I said, George, I think it's a little too late.
- 13:34But to quote an author, I just pulled my book out.
- 13:37Quote an author of the assault on the image of God. Actually, I'm not going to quote me,
- 13:40but someone I shared I wrote about Ryan T. Anderson. He's got a book on this.
- 13:44He's been writing about this for decades. He said this and then we'll go to a quick break.
- 13:49The best science shows that 80 to 95 percent of children with a gender identity conflict will
- 13:58grow out of it. The best science shows that 41 percent of people who identify as transgender will
- 14:04attempt suicide at some point in their lives. And that people after they have had sex reassignment
- 14:10surgery are 19 more times, 19 times more likely to die by suicide.
- 14:18He said those statistics are tragic. And we need to do a better job of helping people who face
- 14:24these struggles. That was Ryan T. Anderson. We'll be right back with George Carneal on World
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- 15:17Mike Menzel will get back to you. So George, let's move on to the next article. And this is very
- 15:24familiar, a very familiar story. It's I think disgusting. But we're talking about Pete Buttigieg and
- 15:31his husband who recently called out Libs of TikTok. And as not the B, in other words, the true
- 15:38side of the Babylon B, not the satire side, they said her response is priceless. So this is an
- 15:45article where he actually said, what did he say as a parent? Now, first of all, Jeff, bring up the
- 15:51picture from the people magazine story of the two men pictured in the hospital holding babies.
- 15:59They didn't have those babies. This is Pete Buttigieg and his quote unquote husband.
- 16:05They're in the hospital as if they're showing the facade that it's a family and it's just as
- 16:12natural as a man and a woman and the union of a God ordained natural marriage having a baby.
- 16:19So George, first your thoughts on this facade and then we'll get into what Jason Buttigieg said.
- 16:26Well, now I know when I go to the emergency room, why it takes me seven hours to get into a room
- 16:30because they're doing photo ops with Pete. So that explains that. This is disgusting. And I don't
- 16:36know what they're trying to prove. It's such a mockery to women who have birth, who birth children.
- 16:44I have nothing else to say about it, David. It's just other insanity. It is a mockery. And it's
- 16:50interesting. Satan is the master counterfeiter. He will mock and he will counterfeit God. And this
- 16:57is what they're doing here. But here's what he said in a post. First of all, he's responding to
- 17:03Libs of TikTok, who said the husband of a current cabinet member publicly blasted a citizen journalist
- 17:11because I post TikToks he doesn't like and don't want kids being trans in school. Does anyone find
- 17:19this alarming? Now, Jason Buttigieg responded, quote, as a parent and former teacher, I want qualified
- 17:27people involved in education. This is actually quite simple. Chaya isn't qualified for her
- 17:33appointment in appointed government position. She doesn't live in Oklahoma, hold no degree in
- 17:38education, zero classroom experience, the rest is theatrics. And they say she responded.
- 17:45Jason Buttigieg, husband of secretary Pete, is attacking me because he feels threatened by
- 17:51L.O. Libs of TikTok's mission to expose child groomers like him. He doesn't want you to see this
- 18:00video of him making kids pledge allegiance to the rainbow and LGBTQ pride. So definitely don't
- 18:09share it. So and that's on the Libs of TikTok. He actually she actually shared that and he did. He
- 18:16was doing the rainbow pledge of allegiance apparently. So George, this is propaganda. This is
- 18:22indoctrination. It's pushing this demonic ideology under the guys that hey, it's popular now. Let's
- 18:28just get it in schools. Let's get it in front of the children again in front of the children. Go
- 18:32ahead. Why do parents still have their children in the public school system is my first question.
- 18:38Good question. As far as Jason and anyone else, the drag queens and those who affirm and support
- 18:46this drag queen story hour, it is grooming the children. If anybody knew anything about the reality
- 18:52of drag shows, they are very adult oriented and filthy and perverse. That's what it is. It's
- 18:58entertainment. You don't want your children at things like this. And I'm just this made I'm I'm
- 19:06perplexed at even the teachers in the school who support this agenda when you even have drag queens
- 19:13coming out and saying that this is where this is wrong and this is where children should not be.
- 19:18Again, parents are going to have to really do more of an of an outcry and an outrage at the
- 19:23school board meetings and better yet get on the school board so you can keep this fill out of
- 19:28the public school system. And yes, it's in the system and it's in small towns. I always tell
- 19:34the story, the true story that I think a year and a half ago in a very, very small town about 20
- 19:40miles from here called keel Wisconsin population 4,000 right got that population 4,000.
- 19:47Three eighth grade boys were suspended for not using the proper pronouns of a classmate.
- 19:53Small town. So don't say it's this is just in San Francisco. It's just in New York. It's just in
- 19:58Chicago. It's just in Atlanta. It's just in DC. No, it's not friends. So the next story
- 20:04gives a little bit more info on just how we got here and that's over at Breitbart Blood Money.
- 20:11Chinese government documents reveal detailed plan to subvert American culture using tech
- 20:19and Hollywood to target American children. Surprise, surprise. So Chinese government documents
- 20:27and restricted military journals show the CCP Chinese Communist Party. They are using TikTok.
- 20:34They're taking a full advantage of Hollywood. By the way, the NBA so, so owned by China. And
- 20:42anyway, we'll Nike and we'll child labor over and we'll maybe that's for another time.
- 20:47But they're targeting vulnerable young consumers and they're trying to get to these kids and
- 20:53there's a a book out by Pete Swicer on this. So his book is called Blood Money, Why the Powerful
- 21:00Turn to turn a blind eye while China kills Americans. So this is a very
- 21:08I mean, it doesn't and again, they're going after children. It doesn't get much more serious than
- 21:12this. First of all, they eliminate kids through abortion. They murder babies in the womb.
- 21:17But if babies are born and then they're in the system, Hollywood's going to get them social
- 21:21media is going to get them TikTok, China, the left. This is how they're getting the children.
- 21:26So George, it makes sense what he's saying. And it would probably is a fascinating book,
- 21:31but it is blood money and they are subverting American culture. They've been doing this for decades
- 21:36in decades. Are we waking up to this? Yes, but I think in a way, it's too late. I know just from
- 21:45a lot of the videos I see on TikTok of women who are on there who brag about, oh, I'm going to go
- 21:49have an abortion and then go get my nails done or they talk about their sex campaigns and they
- 21:53get very graphic about the sexual diseases that they have pride. It has done so much damage.
- 22:01I don't know why parents even allow their kids on social media to begin with. I also wish though,
- 22:07I never liked for people to feel powerless, but until Christians and people in general say,
- 22:11I've had I've had so much of this to the point of where I'm sick of it. If they would stop going
- 22:17to the football games and watching sports and watching Hollywood, stop going to the film,
- 22:22stop going to concerts, turn off the television, cancel Netflix. The only way we're going to get
- 22:27their attention is the bottom line, which is the dollar. And if people would get some backbone
- 22:32and some conviction and say, my family, we're going to sit down at the dinner table and we're
- 22:36actually going to converse, talk to each other, check in with each other and I'm going to limit
- 22:42the children's time on social media and we're not going to support anything in the sports world
- 22:47or Hollywood, the music industry, etc. Maybe we could turn some of this around or at least
- 22:52less than some of the damage. I hope so. I pray it's not too late. I pray God saves America,
- 22:59but it's got to start with the children. We're not, we got to do a better job protecting them.
- 23:03So this app, TickKnock has penetrated the heart of America's culture, becoming a central part
- 23:09of the lives of many of our young kids, teenagers and younger children and young adults. But the
- 23:14Chinese government doesn't permit its own app, TickKnock, in their own population. Instead,
- 23:21they harness the app's addictive quality and then they target, target America to shape the
- 23:26minds of young people over here. Very interesting. No, not my people point out that there's
- 23:32their contradiction there. It's, wait a minute, this is from China. It's their app and they don't
- 23:36even allow it. And anyway, George, we've got to move on really briefly to this story. I just
- 23:41found over at Liberty Sentinel. I get your comments on it because we only have three minutes left,
- 23:45unfortunately. This is called how evil doers weaponized music and entertainment against God and
- 23:53you. And basically, the reason I'm using this is we've been talking about this. Our 100th show here
- 23:59on World View Matters. We had author, journalist and documentary film producer Curtis Bowers.
- 24:05And if you haven't watched agenda documentary, please friends, look up agenda at agendaweekly.com.
- 24:12So we had Curtis Bowers on. He was talking about how communist communists are using music and
- 24:17entertainment. This is just like the previous story where China is doing that to subvert culture.
- 24:22So Alex Newman writes, diabolical evil has infested every cultural sector imaginable,
- 24:31including the music industry, Hollywood and even sports. And then he talks about why.
- 24:37So, I mean, money, fame, super bowl. Look at all the commercials. How about the Grammys?
- 24:43What about award shows? So George, in these last couple minutes, I would just let you speak
- 24:48a little bit more on this because it's not just China, but this is the leftist Marxist agenda in
- 24:53America. There are people trying to destroy tear down America from within. Go ahead, your thoughts.
- 24:59Oh, I've got a lot in my head, bro, just let her let her rip brother.
- 25:04You know, this is a little off subject, but you know, the military has been having a problem with
- 25:09recruiting people. And I think that any conservative white male should never join the military,
- 25:15get out of the military if you can. If they want, if these globalists want to use people to fight
- 25:21their wars, they're already trying to destroy this country anyway. And list all of these social
- 25:26justice warriors and the drag queens and the transsexuals and the homosexuals and the feminists.
- 25:31And the Marxist Black Lives Matter movement enlists those people and let them go fight for
- 25:35this country since they're trying to destroy it anyway. Again, it goes back to if we could
- 25:41boycott all the award shows and everything Hollywood, I would figuratively speaking love to see
- 25:46Hollywood crash and burn. But it's got to be turning off the TV. Stop supporting these people.
- 25:51Yeah. And you know what? I, um, I didn't see. There was a recent award show. What was it?
- 25:55Was it the Grammys? The Grammys? The Oscars, one of the two a couple of weeks ago,
- 25:59or recently, and I didn't watch it. And, and most of the people that I know in the circles that we
- 26:04probably, uh, run with George, they probably have nothing to do with that. Because that's just
- 26:08the left scratching the left back and saying, Hey, you're so great. But then I go on social media.
- 26:14I see a couple Christian friends saying, Oh, it's my night. I love the Oscars or whatever it was.
- 26:20And I'm kind of going, Okay, now it's just entertainment. But they're drinking the cool
- 26:25aid. If you're watching these movies, if you're listening to their speeches, um, and they're
- 26:30putting down Christians, conservatives, Republicans, Trump, whatever else. Um, but George, thank you
- 26:34so much for your voice. I want to send you guys to his website. A lot of information there.
- 26:39George carneal.com and your book, bro, is done very well over on Amazon from queer to Christ.
- 26:47My journey into the light, uh, great high rankings between, you know, 4.7 and five, uh, five star
- 26:54reviews. So kudos, brother. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your heart and your story
- 27:00in the book. And now continuing to try to try to wake people up. That's what I love about you.
- 27:05We will do this again. Lord willing. God bless you. Thanks, David. Thank you, George. All right,
- 27:10guys, um, more to come tomorrow. Who's on the schedule? I don't have it in front of me. I have the
- 27:14wrong schedule in front of me. But anyway, we're growing because of you. And I mean that. Thank
- 27:19you so very much. And as I always close out the show by saying, God bless you. And as always,
- 27:25keep speaking the truth about things that matter.