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Passover, Placentas and More · Mom Wars

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Speaker 1: From the front lines of the Mom Wars.
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Speaker 2: Here's Bethany Mandel and Kara Kennedy.
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Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to another episode of the Mom Wars.
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Speaker 3: Hope you missed us. We missed last week. This is
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Speaker 3: your American host, so you'll always be able to tell
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Speaker 3: the two of us apart. My name is Bethany Mandel
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Speaker 3: and I am a mother of six and a columnist,
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Speaker 3: journalist person. I write for the New York Post and
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Speaker 3: The Spectator in the Washington Examiner, and I am joined by.
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Speaker 1: Bar Kennedy and I am the royal correspondent for this factation.
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Speaker 1: But the royal family is.
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Speaker 3: The Trump How many kids do you have? This is
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Speaker 1: I have one baby and she's six months and I
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Speaker 1: love six months. It's great, but now it's dart in
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Speaker 1: to be. I don't know. There was a second month
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Speaker 1: there where I was like, oh my god, six months
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Speaker 1: and so many soon and now she's found out how
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Speaker 1: to pull my hey, and I'm an ah ohie cash.
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Speaker 1: Let's back up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had my hair in a ponytail for twelve years.
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Speaker 1: Well, the thing is, so I skipped out on the
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Speaker 1: pregnancy thing where you have like amazing moments that make
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Speaker 1: but I did have postpartum sheddin, which has just stopped,
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Speaker 1: and my hair is all over the house, filled up
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Speaker 1: every drain and now that has stopped, she's started pulling
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Speaker 1: my hair out. So yeah, it's fun. It's a lot. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So you wrote a really fabulous piece for our sub
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Speaker 3: only read it if you're a subscriber. Kyra wrote a
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Speaker 3: great piece about going to the airport with her husband
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Speaker 3: tell me about it.
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Speaker 1: So my husband isn't saying as soon as we enter
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Speaker 1: the airport doors, and it's always like being a little
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Speaker 1: joke between us. And then I started asking other girlfriends
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Speaker 1: about it, and it turns out that every guy is insane.
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Speaker 1: I think they have to be like a certain type
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Speaker 1: of guy though, because neck is like in every other
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Speaker 1: part of life, he's not insane, and I think if
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Speaker 1: it was like a very normal guy, but with airports,
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Speaker 1: it's like he goes into this mode. He like every
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Speaker 1: single thing is like such high stakes. We have to
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Speaker 1: leave five hours early. We have to have like two
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Speaker 1: print outs of our born in passes. He checks everything
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Speaker 1: a hundred times, and like, we take a lot. We
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Speaker 1: take a lot of stuff with us since we had
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Speaker 1: a really been able to take like a lot of bags,
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Speaker 1: and he's like weigh in the bags and making sure
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Speaker 1: there's extra diapers, and it's just turning them insane. But
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Speaker 1: I have a theory that some most men I know,
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Speaker 1: we're fine before they had kids, and now they feel
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Speaker 1: like they have to like look after the children, after
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Speaker 1: the family, so they turn in. Say then, but Nick
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Speaker 1: has always been insane in aports. He's always been crazy
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Speaker 1: makes since we met. But then Nick did a little
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Speaker 1: PSA at the bottom of the peace because he says
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Speaker 1: that the reason he's so insane in airports is because
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Speaker 1: when we first met, I got he booked me a
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Speaker 1: flight to go and get my visit to move to America,
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Speaker 1: like months after we had first met, and he boke
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Speaker 1: me a fight. He sent it over to me. I
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Speaker 1: left forty five minutes before the plane was about to
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Speaker 1: go up, and I went to the wrong airport. He
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Speaker 1: thinks that he's justified that.
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Speaker 3: So Seth is not crazy, but he's very I'm like
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Speaker 3: pulling my hair out as we're talking. Actually, it's really funny.
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Speaker 3: Seth is not crazy in a reports, just because he's
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Speaker 3: decided to let Jesus take the wheel, and in our relationship,
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Speaker 3: I'm Jesus, and so he just he just leaves it.
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Speaker 3: He knows nothing, he doesn't know. He doesn't I don't
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Speaker 3: even think he knows where we're going. Half the time.
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Speaker 3: He just he packs. He knows that he has to pack,
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Speaker 3: he knows roughly the weather that he gets to pack for,
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Speaker 3: and he packs for most of the kids too, and
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Speaker 3: the older kids packed for themselves.
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Speaker 1: That's like become the Promised Land.
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Speaker 3: Although when we went to my in laws this past weekend,
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Speaker 3: my seven year old Ultima, his name is not really Altima,
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Speaker 3: he was born in a Nissan Altima and that's his
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Speaker 3: online nickname. As a result, he packed himself one shirt,
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Speaker 3: so you know, both both my older boys didn't pack
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Speaker 3: themselves underwear on another recent trip.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Whatever it works, sometimes it doesn't work. Other times he
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Speaker 3: doesn't know anything about what we're doing. He doesn't know
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Speaker 3: where we're going. He just he is like, he's like,
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Speaker 3: what's the what's the the goal?
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Speaker 1: Lump.
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Speaker 3: This is like a very famous Yiddish folk tale of
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Speaker 3: a guy who's made out of clay, and you have
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Speaker 3: to give him very specific instructions. And he's very good
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Speaker 3: at those very specific instructions. So that's Seth. He's the
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Speaker 3: goal and he carries things. He like, he really is
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Speaker 3: a workhorse, but he does not pay attention to anything,
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Speaker 3: and so he doesn't like he will stand there like,
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Speaker 3: now where do I go? I'm like, right right there.
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Speaker 1: Where it says baggage claim, I say that's me. There's
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Speaker 1: a sign, there's something. It's like when I walk into
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Speaker 1: an April, I'm like, get a transna, so maybe make
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Speaker 1: it justified in all of this. I walk into a trance.
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Speaker 1: So I will literally like walk into doors and banish.
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Speaker 1: There's the stuff. My brain just switches off. And also
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Speaker 1: I'll have a I'll have a bos of wine at
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Speaker 1: sad and I am and in April because I feel
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Speaker 1: like it's fay game, Like there's no time in an Apple.
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Speaker 1: You can just do whatever you want.
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Speaker 3: He is pretty I'm gonna go on team Nick on this.
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Speaker 1: One.
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Speaker 3: And this, by the way, this is how you know
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Speaker 3: that you like have a real friendship because the friend
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Speaker 3: can take your husband's side. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna take an excide on this one.
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Speaker 1: He's happy that he's justified.
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Speaker 3: No, I Seth is also like very trusting, given I've
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Speaker 3: pulled one of those before. I was going to beg
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Speaker 3: and McCain and bed Dominich's wedding and it was the
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Speaker 3: week before Thanksgiving, and I brought our third baby with us, Altima,
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Speaker 3: when he was a baby, and I missed my flight
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Speaker 3: because I like left too late. Whatever. It was just
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Speaker 3: I was a mess. And so then I was flying
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Speaker 3: stand by with a baby the day before Thanksgiving. And
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Speaker 3: it worked out really nicely actually, because I was like,
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Speaker 3: I only have one kid with me, I have enough
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Speaker 3: of whatever I need. I'm fine. I could stay here
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Speaker 3: for Thanksgiving. I don't really care. But everyone in the
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Speaker 3: airport felt really bad for me, and they ended up
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Speaker 3: putting me in business class.
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Speaker 1: Oh nice.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it actually worked over very nicely. So I
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Speaker 3: went to the airport. I went to Florida a couple
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Speaker 3: days ago for just a day, and I decided I
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Speaker 3: saw this Instagram story or reel or something that a
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Speaker 3: guy made it door to door at Reagan and like
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Speaker 3: he got there an hour before his flight left, and
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Speaker 3: I was like, I think I might try that.
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Speaker 1: Why not?
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Speaker 3: And so my daughter so I when I when I leave,
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Speaker 3: I have to lean on like lots of friends to
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Speaker 3: help with with like carpools and stuff. And so I
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Speaker 3: decided I would take carpool to drop my daughter and
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Speaker 3: her best friend off at a I remember where they
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Speaker 3: were going, oh, a play, and then the other parent
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Speaker 3: would take their way home. And I was like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be so helpful. And so I dropped
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Speaker 3: them and then I get in the car and as
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Speaker 3: I'm driving the girls to the drop point, I'm like,
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Speaker 3: I feel like this is going to cut it kind
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Speaker 3: of close. And then when I dropped the girls and
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Speaker 3: I put Reagan into my GPS, I was like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I'm estimated to arrive fourteen minutes before boarding starts. That
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Speaker 3: might be cutting it close. And so I get there
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Speaker 3: and I so I got there. My flight left at
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Speaker 3: eleven am. I got there at ten am, so hour right.
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Speaker 3: I was in line at security by ten twelve, and
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Speaker 3: I was through and fine, and I was able to
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Speaker 3: stop and get you Wow. Yeah, I was through security
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Speaker 3: by ten twenty and my flight boarded at ten twenty five.
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Speaker 1: That's great, but it's gonna mash you up in future.
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Speaker 1: Now I could togat, I think then you couldn't always
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Speaker 1: do that.
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Speaker 3: Well, so I got cocky because I didn't have my
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Speaker 3: kids with me, and I had just a bag on
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Speaker 3: my shoulder, and so I was able to park the
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Speaker 3: car and be at security twelve minutes later.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, I feel like I can do anything
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Speaker 1: when I don't have kids with me. Wait, so why
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Speaker 1: did you go a Flariday again? Did you tell me?
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Speaker 1: I had a meeting?
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Speaker 3: And it was like, it's actually really brutal because I
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Speaker 3: had set my alarm and think I was going to
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Speaker 3: be early to the airport and then laying in bed
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Speaker 3: at six am, I had this memory of the Instagram
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Speaker 3: reel and I was like, I'm just gonna stay in
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Speaker 3: bed for two hours. And so I got to the airport.
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Speaker 3: My flight left at eleven am. I got there and
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Speaker 3: then my lift like couldn't figure out how to bring
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Speaker 3: me to a kosher restaurant and so fine. It was
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Speaker 3: a dinner meeting. So I was like, fine, whatever, So
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Speaker 3: I'd get to the dinner meeting at five PM. And
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Speaker 3: I've been driving all over South Florida and various lifts
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Speaker 3: trying to get to this costa restaurant for a late
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Speaker 3: lunch and it never worked. And then I was at
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Speaker 3: this meeting until eleven, got to my hotel at midnight,
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Speaker 3: and then the next morning I had decided, in my
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Speaker 3: infinite wisdom, I was going to take the first flight
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Speaker 3: home on Friday morning, and I was like, I will
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Speaker 3: be home before lunchtime. That'll be amazing. And then I
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Speaker 3: realized that means I have to wake up at four am,
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Speaker 3: and that's what I did, and so I got four
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Speaker 3: hours of sleep and it was brutal.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's not bause you probably paid a lot
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Speaker 1: of the hotel as well. And you sound like four
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Speaker 1: I was in the hotel.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was like one hundred and
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Speaker 3: eighty dollars.
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Speaker 1: I didn't.
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Speaker 3: I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I didn't go. But I stand on hotel crisis to
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Speaker 1: go and act when the time that you can spend
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Speaker 1: in the room is going down. And it makes me
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Speaker 1: sound like a cool So you should spend twenty four
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Speaker 1: hours in the hotel room.
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Speaker 3: So I will say I made sure to get a
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Speaker 3: hotel that had free airport transfer. Now, so I didn't
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Speaker 3: I didn't have to pay for them. That was good.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's not Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But no, it was a pretty brutal week and next
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Speaker 3: week is going to be even more brutal because it's Passover.
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Speaker 1: So tell me about your preparation. So pass everds two days,
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Speaker 1: right and Sessity and Sunday.
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Speaker 3: Ricochet, Yeah, join the conversation. So Passover is actually a
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Speaker 3: week long and it starts on so it's actually very
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Speaker 3: confusing this year because we have Shabbat which starts on
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Speaker 3: Friday night, and then it immediately goes in to pass
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Speaker 3: Over on Saturday night, and so Passover is Saturday night
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Speaker 3: Sunday night, and then it goes into Monday. And then
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Speaker 3: we have something called home lo d which is like
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Speaker 3: the intermediary days, which is I guess Tuesday to Friday
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Speaker 3: this year.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I can't do the math. And then we have the
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Speaker 3: last two days of Passover. So the first two days
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Speaker 3: of Passover and the last two days of Passover are
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Speaker 3: like basically the rules of Shabbat. I can't travel, use
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Speaker 3: my phone, I don't know, lots of other rules. And
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Speaker 3: then the intermediary days you can.
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Speaker 1: Like lights, but can you tell the night's bitches, and
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Speaker 1: so what do you do?
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Speaker 3: So we leave lights on and then turn lights off.
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Speaker 3: And it's really complicated this year because you have to
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Speaker 3: have all the preparations done like a day before the holiday,
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Speaker 3: because you have Shabbat before the holiday starts, right, And
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Speaker 3: so I don't so apparently someone said that this happened
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Speaker 3: like three or four years ago. I don't remember it,
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Speaker 3: but I'm like going, I'm like reading all of these
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Speaker 3: like texts about like what do you do? When? When
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Speaker 3: do you Because you're supposed to like sell your homades.
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Speaker 3: You're supposed to sell like the leavened products that you're
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Speaker 3: not using in your house, and you lock them up
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Speaker 3: and then you sell them to your rabbi and or
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Speaker 3: I guess no, no, no, the rabbi sells it on your
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Speaker 3: behalf and it belongs to another person, like a non Jew,
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Speaker 3: for the whole week, and then you buy it back.
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Speaker 2: What.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. It's a weird religion and you have
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Speaker 3: to like lock it up. I always wonder, like, one year,
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Speaker 3: is it going to happen where like an entire community
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Speaker 3: sells their stuff to a non Jew and the non
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Speaker 3: Jew is like, I'm not selling it back. I'm going
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Speaker 3: to keep it. I'm going to come to your house
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to collect I'm waiting for it.
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Speaker 1: Wait, did they just like they keep they have to
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Speaker 1: keep it in their home.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we lock it up. No no, no, we don't
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Speaker 3: give it to the person. We lock it up and
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Speaker 3: it belongs to that person for the next I don't know,
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Speaker 3: how do you choose the person that belongs to our rabbi?
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Speaker 3: Chooses the person and I don't. I don't think we
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Speaker 3: even know that person's name. And then he sells everyone's
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Speaker 3: stuff on behalf on their behalf right, and so we're
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Speaker 3: not allowed to like a lot. It's a lot of stress.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to choose your non jew carefully
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Speaker 3: right now. I just I want to know and I
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Speaker 3: want someone out there to tell me. Has it ever
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Speaker 3: happened in the community where the nanjew it was all
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Speaker 3: sold to was like, no take back seas, I'm going
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Speaker 3: to keep it. I'm going to come to your house.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to collect your half eaten box of pasta.
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Speaker 3: But people try to, like it's traditional that, like the
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Speaker 3: month or two beforehand, you try to eat as much
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Speaker 3: as you can of it so that you're selling as
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Speaker 3: little as possible because the selling is kind of a workaround,
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Speaker 3: and so you're not supposed to like how much, I mean,
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Speaker 3: it depends on what you have in your house, so
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Speaker 3: it gets even crazier. So we've we don't like, we
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Speaker 3: try to eat as much as we can so we're
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Speaker 3: selling as little as possible. And then the preparations are insane.
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Speaker 3: You have to clean everything in your house so that
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Speaker 3: there's no, like there's no commades, there's no leavened products anywhere,
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Speaker 3: and so it's just like you have to do a
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Speaker 3: really deep clean of your house and your kitchen. So
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Speaker 3: like I spent the day cleaning out my oven so
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Speaker 3: that my oven would be kosher for Passover. I had
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Speaker 3: to scrub it with easy off. My windows have been
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Speaker 3: open all day. I'm probably still a little high from
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Speaker 3: all the fumes.
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Speaker 1: Wait, you always tell me that you're a very beasty
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Speaker 1: person as well, so like a big uh huh.
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Speaker 3: My kids did the car today. That was rough.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of nice though, like one c P. That's that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's good because it's like good timing. Like
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Speaker 3: at the end of the winter, we like take out
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Speaker 3: all the jackets and I have my jacket, I have
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Speaker 3: all my kids jackets the dryer.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I've washed all my kids jackets. That's yeah.
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Speaker 1: My hey, somebody to come and do it and came
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Speaker 1: in and I was starting. I still yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean, like my cleaning lady is gonna
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Speaker 3: come and do her regular clean, I'm not. I don't
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Speaker 3: want her like spending three hours in my oven. So
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Speaker 3: I did that. My one of my sons said he
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Speaker 3: found a cinnamon roll wrapped in a diaper in the
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Speaker 3: car today. Oh it's good, we cleaned it out. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: so we've been we've been cleaning NonStop all day and
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Speaker 3: then we have to kosh o our kitchens. So like
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Speaker 3: I have to. So after I cleaned the oven out
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Speaker 3: and like really scrubbed with like steel wool brushes, I
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Speaker 3: cleaned all of the racks, which we're disgusting. It's a
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Speaker 3: good thing to do. I'll I'll turn my oven on
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Speaker 3: to like I don't know, five hundred for an hour
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Speaker 3: to like burn any remnant of anything that was ever
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Speaker 3: in there, and pour boiling water in my sinks and
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Speaker 3: cover my countertops with like contact paper.
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Speaker 1: That's a rough one. I'm not a fan of that experience.
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Speaker 1: Why do you have to do that?
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Speaker 3: Because it has encountered hummates, So it's like na, oh okay. So,
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Speaker 3: like my sink, it's metal, so I can pour boiling
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Speaker 3: water on my sink and that like clears it away.
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Speaker 3: But my countertops can't handle boiling water, so I just
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Speaker 3: cover them.
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Speaker 1: Did you learn the hard way?
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Speaker 3: No? No, So I like I was dumb and I
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Speaker 3: put butcher block countertops in my kitchen one of the
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Speaker 3: biggest mistakes I've ever made my life.
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Speaker 1: Maybe, but they sound great.
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Speaker 3: They sound great, they look the amount of time and
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Speaker 3: effort I've spent sealing them and resealing them really big mistake.
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Speaker 3: I should have just put marble in.
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Speaker 1: I've got to stay in the steel, which I'm love.
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Speaker 3: Countertops.
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Speaker 1: Yeah really, yeah, Well we didn't do it. It's the
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Speaker 1: person who lived at the fall. But the kitchen was
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Speaker 1: supacially in the eighties, so I guess that was in style.
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Speaker 1: But they've filed us great and big.
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Speaker 3: Do you send me pictures of that? I'm so curious
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Speaker 3: what stainless steel countertops look like.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'd get in one redone in a couple
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Speaker 1: of months because one is marble and then two along
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Speaker 1: the side is staying the steel. So we're just going
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Speaker 1: to get an extra standless steel.
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Speaker 3: But they grin so yeah, yeah. I also our listeners
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Speaker 3: are going to like think I'm the dumbest person in
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Speaker 3: the world. I got wooden floors. It just extended the
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Speaker 3: wood floors from my dining room into my kitchen, and
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Speaker 3: then we had a leak from my from one of
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Speaker 3: my dishwashers, and now the floors are warped in that spot,
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Speaker 3: and I wish I had just gotten like fake vinyl
18:45
Speaker 3: or something there. I just love the wood look, but
18:47
Speaker 3: it was such a dumb thing to do in a kitchen.
18:50
Speaker 3: The water plus wood is a really bad combination.
18:54
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm doing the renovation, so so this it's all
18:57
Speaker 1: teaching never yeah, never put anything wood in your It
19:00
Speaker 1: was such a bad idea.
19:02
Speaker 3: And then amount of money that we spent on that
19:03
Speaker 3: kitchen reno was astranogical and I have regrets, but I
19:11
Speaker 3: will say a lot of the money that we spent
19:13
Speaker 3: on that kitchen reno was knocking down walls, putting in,
19:18
Speaker 3: taking out walls and windows, putting in different windows like
19:21
Speaker 3: that was the majority of the spend actually, and I
19:24
Speaker 3: am so glad I did that because they were two
19:26
Speaker 3: separate rooms, my dining room and my kitchen, and they
19:29
Speaker 3: there was a wall that just had a door with
19:32
Speaker 3: and it was like a swinging door, and I couldn't
19:36
Speaker 3: see anything in my house if I was in my kitchen,
19:38
Speaker 3: and I am in my kitchen the majority of my day,
19:42
Speaker 3: and if I couldn't see and talk to people outside
19:44
Speaker 3: of that room, I would have lost my mind. Like
19:46
Speaker 3: knocking down those walls was absolutely necessary.
19:50
Speaker 1: Now that's not like a big job as somebody who
19:53
Speaker 1: has just put in an order for twenty three new windows.
19:56
Speaker 1: I feel the pain. And every single window in this
20:00
Speaker 1: house is single pain. I did that, well, you did what.
20:05
Speaker 3: I replaced all of our upstairs windows as they were sinder.
20:10
Speaker 3: This sounds so old, lady, but replacing our windows was
20:14
Speaker 3: a really weird upgrade that I didn't expect. I was like,
20:19
Speaker 3: I don't why am I spending thousands of dollars on windows?
20:23
Speaker 3: And the first time I walked by my bedroom window
20:26
Speaker 3: in the winter and didn't feel a chill, I was.
20:28
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I'm so excited. So our windows aren't only
20:32
Speaker 1: single pain, but they're not even supposed to be the
20:35
Speaker 1: glass the windows at all. It's like capita tree glass.
20:39
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's like so thin it could shat
20:42
Speaker 1: it by like slicking it. So that's the house that we.
20:45
Speaker 3: Live, Ine, You you own your house, right, Yeah? So
20:51
Speaker 3: are you going to get like a tax rebate by
20:53
Speaker 3: changing out those horrible windows?
20:55
Speaker 1: I think so. I think I bet you could. It's
20:58
Speaker 1: a thing yet we have really locked into it. But
21:01
Speaker 1: we're just gonna spend the money and then see what
21:03
Speaker 1: we can do afterwards.
21:05
Speaker 3: It was so we only did our upstairs because the
21:07
Speaker 3: downstairs we don't really have that many windows. Like once
21:10
Speaker 3: we knocked out all those windows in our kitchen and
21:13
Speaker 3: replace them, we replace them with good windows, so we
21:16
Speaker 3: actually don't really have that many windows downstairs anymore, and
21:19
Speaker 3: they're like huge, like I'm not replacing them. Yeah, we've
21:23
Speaker 3: done pretty much everything you can do in our house.
21:25
Speaker 3: We replaced the hot water heater, the roof, the HVAC,
21:28
Speaker 3: the windows, We renovated our kitchen, our basement. We finished
21:33
Speaker 3: the basement, and we renovated one of the bathrooms.
21:37
Speaker 1: What else have we done? Everything?
21:40
Speaker 3: Oh, the electrical panel, we totally replaced the electrical panel.
21:44
Speaker 1: We just said that. We did the electrical panel and
21:46
Speaker 1: the HVAC. And I know we need a new roof,
21:49
Speaker 1: but that's kind of wait sad years. I can't not
21:52
Speaker 1: even thinking about it.
21:53
Speaker 3: That's future Claremont's problem exactly.
21:56
Speaker 1: So what are the preparations you have to dance? Food? God? Food?
22:02
Speaker 3: Yeah. I spent the entire afternoon doing our taxes, which
22:06
Speaker 3: was really fun and like looking through menus because we
22:11
Speaker 3: can't eat. I hate passover with every fiber of my being.
22:15
Speaker 1: We just can't.
22:16
Speaker 3: It's just like a one week fast. Basically, all of
22:20
Speaker 3: my kids hate it very much. The only thing that
22:22
Speaker 3: makes it good is Seth spends weeks, if not months,
22:27
Speaker 3: doing a kid sator that is like he has props,
22:33
Speaker 3: he has decorations, he has a script like he does
22:38
Speaker 3: so much. It's really really fun. So and it's you know,
22:44
Speaker 3: our oldest is eleven, and like, how many more years
22:48
Speaker 3: do we have of all the kids being hyped for this?
22:52
Speaker 1: Not many?
22:54
Speaker 3: So it's really fun. So we're but I, you know,
22:59
Speaker 3: I have to do all the cookie and it's like
23:01
Speaker 3: extreme food restrictions and everything has to be marked kosher
23:07
Speaker 3: for passover, and so everything is very expensive because the
23:10
Speaker 3: factories have to like submit themselves to extra supervision whatever it's.
23:16
Speaker 3: Everything is thousands of dollars. And then it's like, if
23:22
Speaker 3: you've ever watched a show like America's or what is
23:25
Speaker 3: it called Test Kitchen or something?
23:28
Speaker 1: What's the show? Shoot?
23:29
Speaker 3: What's the show that my kids watch? I can't think
23:32
Speaker 3: of it. No, it's like one of these cooking competitions
23:36
Speaker 3: and they have a top kitchen, middle kitchen, and a
23:38
Speaker 3: lower kitchen, and the hold on this is going to
23:42
Speaker 3: drive me nuts. So it's we're basically I'm working in
23:47
Speaker 3: the lower kitchen because oh it's next level chef, that's
23:52
Speaker 3: what the show is called. So I'm working in the
23:53
Speaker 3: bottom kitchen. You're not allowed to use any of your plates,
23:58
Speaker 3: anything that has ever touched on me. You have to
24:00
Speaker 3: have all separate stuff that you only use one WEEKI year,
24:04
Speaker 3: measuring cups, measuring spoons, potato peelers, mixing bowls, cutting boards, everything,
24:11
Speaker 3: everything has to be different. And so I only use
24:14
Speaker 3: it for a week. And so I have I buy
24:16
Speaker 3: stuff for my Kia. It's like the bottom of the barrel.
24:20
Speaker 1: Stuff you throw it out afterwards. So do you keep it?
24:22
Speaker 3: I keep it? I keep it in the basement. Step
24:24
Speaker 3: found a dead cricket in one of the bowls today.
24:26
Speaker 1: That was fun.
24:29
Speaker 3: And so I and I never remember what I have
24:32
Speaker 3: on a year to year basis, And so I'm like
24:35
Speaker 3: cooking elaborate crazy meals with extreme food restrictions, with like
24:41
Speaker 3: the bare minimum. Like I'm like stirring things with like
24:45
Speaker 3: a plastic spoon.
24:48
Speaker 1: Do you have skins? A little?
24:52
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think, I don't think like crazy,
24:55
Speaker 3: but I mean, basically, the way to keep them happy
24:59
Speaker 3: on paws Is. I'm like, we're gonna have brisket and
25:04
Speaker 3: roast beef and potatoes, and it's like those are not
25:08
Speaker 3: those are not inexpensive cuts of meat. But I'm like,
25:12
Speaker 3: I know what they want and I know that, like
25:15
Speaker 3: that's what's gonna make them happy. And so yeah, I
25:19
Speaker 3: just read out all the menus and then for the
25:21
Speaker 3: second half of the holiday, so that's like the first half.
25:24
Speaker 3: The second half, my in laws are actually treating us
25:26
Speaker 3: to go to a passover program. There's different passover programs
25:30
Speaker 3: all over the country and basically Jews rent out an
25:35
Speaker 3: entire hotel and make the entire hotel coasure for Passover
25:39
Speaker 3: and they serve every meal. They have entertainment. Seth and
25:43
Speaker 3: I have spoken at two passover programs, and so when
25:46
Speaker 3: you're the entertainment, they comp you and then you just
25:50
Speaker 3: give speeches. Yeah, so it's good, but these programs are
25:54
Speaker 3: crazy expensive, like ten fifteen thousand dollars. Yeah, yeah, for
26:00
Speaker 3: the week. It's nuts.
26:03
Speaker 1: Apparently, duty is is a very expensive religion. It's so expensive.
26:11
Speaker 3: That's crazy because you're renting out the hotel, the food
26:15
Speaker 3: is already so expensive, and then they're hiring babysitters and
26:19
Speaker 3: entertainment and buying the wine and like it's but it's
26:24
Speaker 3: really fun when you do it, but it's insanely expensive.
26:30
Speaker 1: I went to a pass set of the last year.
26:34
Speaker 1: I know it really, it's my first one, and I
26:36
Speaker 1: think we maybe go into the same families on Saturday. Fun. Yeah,
26:41
Speaker 1: it was already fun. That's day.
26:42
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a fan, although Seth again, he makes
26:45
Speaker 3: it so fun. Yeah, I remember doing Passover my family.
26:50
Speaker 3: My family are fun though, Like I one thing I
26:53
Speaker 3: really so. My family are not Orthodox, and so I
26:55
Speaker 3: stopped going to my family for Passover when I became religious,
26:58
Speaker 3: which really stunk. But I remember there's like a there's
27:04
Speaker 3: a part of the stator where you eat something called
27:07
Speaker 3: hero sat and it's like apple and cinnamon and nuts
27:10
Speaker 3: and it's it's like the mortar of of you know,
27:13
Speaker 3: the Pyramids whatever. And my uncle every year I can
27:17
Speaker 3: hear his voice saying.
27:19
Speaker 1: This is so good.
27:20
Speaker 3: Why do we only have this once a year? And
27:22
Speaker 3: he like on a tirade and it's like you can
27:25
Speaker 3: like press play and that, and he does it every
27:28
Speaker 3: single year. And so whenever we get to that part
27:31
Speaker 3: of the state or at home, I'm like, oh, uncle
27:33
Speaker 3: hal is somewhere doing his thingy.
27:38
Speaker 1: Them to your past o? Can you do far? It's far?
27:42
Speaker 3: They live on Long Island, and so are you from
27:45
Speaker 3: the originally don't? Yeah, that's where my family are from.
27:52
Speaker 1: That's I did not expect that.
27:54
Speaker 3: I when I when I get really angry, I can
27:56
Speaker 3: talk like I'm from Long Islands. But when I moved
27:59
Speaker 3: from Long Islands up to Rochester, people thought that anyone
28:04
Speaker 3: who spoke like that was like a murderer and a rapist.
28:08
Speaker 3: So I had to stop talking like this or no
28:10
Speaker 3: one would be friends with me.
28:12
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's fine, I lost my eye. I love that
28:17
Speaker 1: you have to sound like that all the time.
28:19
Speaker 3: It comes out when I'm angry.
28:20
Speaker 1: Nick gets starting obsassin me because I think his accent
28:23
Speaker 1: is the worst, because it's just like a non descriptive
28:25
Speaker 1: American accent. He's from Matadsen, but he doesn't really sound
28:28
Speaker 1: like a New yorka or like he doesn't really have anything.
28:31
Speaker 3: He grow up in Manhattan. Yeah, oh interesting, Where do
28:34
Speaker 3: you go to high school?
28:36
Speaker 1: The same one? Tronon Trinity? Trinity?
28:40
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think my high school graduation.
28:45
Speaker 3: So I had like a very circuitous life. So I
28:49
Speaker 3: grew up on Long Island until I was ten, and
28:51
Speaker 3: then we went we moved to Rochester until I was sixteen,
28:56
Speaker 3: and then my mom so okay, So then I went
28:58
Speaker 3: to Belgium for my junior year of high school. And
29:01
Speaker 3: while I was there, my mom died and my mom
29:04
Speaker 3: had single custody. And so after my junior year, I
29:08
Speaker 3: went and I lived with a terrible, awful ant to
29:10
Speaker 3: Manhattan for my senior year. And so I graduated from
29:13
Speaker 3: high school in Manhattan at the Beacon School.
29:17
Speaker 1: Did you look up?
29:17
Speaker 3: The Beacon School and Cuba were famous for taking illegal
29:21
Speaker 3: trips to Cuba to learn about how to spread the revolution. Yeah,
29:27
Speaker 3: they like broke the embargo.
29:29
Speaker 1: Wait did you go to Cuba? No?
29:31
Speaker 3: I wanted to and I was poor, so I couldn't
29:34
Speaker 3: afford it. Well, I know, it would have been really fun,
29:38
Speaker 3: and it was funny because it was still illegal then,
29:41
Speaker 3: and so they lied and said, you know, they had
29:46
Speaker 3: all gone to Toronto for spring break and.
29:50
Speaker 1: Well to the parents, they would lie to the parents, No,
29:52
Speaker 1: to customs.
29:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was like super illegal and like really crazy,
29:58
Speaker 3: and so they were instructed to lie to customs and
30:01
Speaker 3: say they were in Toronto for the entirety of the
30:03
Speaker 3: spring break. And I think it was like a year
30:07
Speaker 3: after I graduated.
30:08
Speaker 1: Would they can private plan? Like how would they can't know?
30:11
Speaker 3: So they would. They they got like separate tickets, so
30:17
Speaker 3: one t everyone got flights to Toronto, and then they
30:19
Speaker 3: booked totally separate tickets from Toronto to from Havana. And
30:26
Speaker 3: so they were instructed to lie to customs in Toronto
30:30
Speaker 3: and say that that's where they all had spent their
30:32
Speaker 3: spring break. But everyone came back really tan, and so
30:38
Speaker 3: customs in Toronto was like m and they so they
30:42
Speaker 3: started pulling kids aside and they I mean they were
30:45
Speaker 3: like seventeen year old kids. They instantly broke They were
30:47
Speaker 3: like okay, we were in.
30:49
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's crazy, but kind of cool, like
30:52
Speaker 1: that's that. Yeah, it's so.
30:56
Speaker 3: So it was on the front page of the New
30:58
Speaker 3: York Post and it was like a big story. It
31:01
Speaker 3: was like, you know, this totally like sanctioned and or
31:07
Speaker 3: New York public school trip to Cuba when there was
31:10
Speaker 3: an embargo. And so it was pretty messed up because
31:13
Speaker 3: they threw the history teacher under the bus. His name
31:17
Speaker 3: was Turner. I don't know what his first name. Everyone
31:19
Speaker 3: just called him Turner, and he had like Chae Gavera
31:22
Speaker 3: and like you know, Fidel Castro posters on his walls.
31:26
Speaker 3: So he was like super invested in the cause. And
31:29
Speaker 3: so they, the principal and all the other teachers threw
31:31
Speaker 3: him under the bus and said this we had no idea,
31:35
Speaker 3: and we were all like there was an announcement every
31:38
Speaker 3: morning on the loudspeaker. Everyone knew about this trip. It
31:42
Speaker 3: was completely sanctioned by the entire school. The principal knew
31:45
Speaker 3: about it.
31:46
Speaker 1: And didn't like, don't have anybody.
31:48
Speaker 3: Everyone was in everyone else on it. It's such a
31:52
Speaker 3: radical left I would have sent I was not my king.
31:55
Speaker 3: I wanted to go, but I like was poor, and
31:58
Speaker 3: my aunt was terribly mean and wouldn't let me like
32:01
Speaker 3: have a dime, and then she ended up stealing like
32:03
Speaker 3: a ton of my money the end of the year.
32:04
Speaker 1: Yeah she was terrible.
32:06
Speaker 3: What Yeah, she was really awful.
32:09
Speaker 1: She sounds like a cow.
32:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was really terrible. So she agreed, so I
32:15
Speaker 3: got two years of like money and survivor benefits and
32:19
Speaker 3: everything because my mom died when I was sixteen, and
32:22
Speaker 3: so she agreed to put the first half totally away
32:28
Speaker 3: from me because I wasn't living with her that year,
32:30
Speaker 3: and then the second half of it she would take
32:33
Speaker 3: like a percentage away and then keep the rest for
32:36
Speaker 3: me because the only thing that like, she didn't have
32:39
Speaker 3: an increase in living costs. She didn't give me any money.
32:42
Speaker 3: I had a stepfather who was giving me money. And
32:44
Speaker 3: then at the end of the year, the week that
32:46
Speaker 3: I graduated high school, which was when my Social Security
32:49
Speaker 3: benefits stopped, she kicked me out on the streets with
32:52
Speaker 3: all my stuff in garbage bags and said, I'm keeping
32:55
Speaker 3: all of it.
32:56
Speaker 1: Wait, is this your mom's sister?
32:59
Speaker 3: Yeah?
33:01
Speaker 1: Were they close?
33:02
Speaker 3: No? And rund this Yeah, And it was her plan
33:06
Speaker 3: the whole time to steal as much as she could
33:09
Speaker 3: for me.
33:09
Speaker 1: Is she alive?
33:11
Speaker 3: She is alive. So she lives and like egg her
33:15
Speaker 3: house deeply? I do, Actually I would do that would
33:19
Speaker 3: be yeah. So I so she lives in Maryland. I
33:22
Speaker 3: have a friend who does like political oppo research, and
33:25
Speaker 3: she like figured out where she lives and everything, and
33:28
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe she's going to listen to this
33:29
Speaker 3: podcast because she wants she wants like clicked like on
33:33
Speaker 3: something on my Facebook, and I think it was just
33:34
Speaker 3: because she was lurking years ago, not that long ago, though,
33:39
Speaker 3: like a couple of years ago. I haven't seen her
33:40
Speaker 3: in twenty years. I haven't spoken to her in twenty years.
33:43
Speaker 3: Uh oh, there's a baby crying. I'm going to message Seth.
33:45
Speaker 3: That's that's his problem.
33:49
Speaker 1: You can go.
33:50
Speaker 3: So that's not my problem at all, it's his problem. Yeah,
33:55
Speaker 3: So I don't I haven't spoken to her in twenty years,
33:59
Speaker 3: and I have, but they ultimately, I just like have
34:01
Speaker 3: no interest in reigniting her in my life. And so
34:06
Speaker 3: that's why I'm not going to egg her house, not
34:08
Speaker 3: because I don't want to wait.
34:09
Speaker 1: So after she kicked you out, did you ever speak
34:11
Speaker 1: to her again?
34:12
Speaker 3: No?
34:13
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is crazy.
34:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but she so she was married at the time
34:17
Speaker 3: to like a really hot mess of a guy. Although
34:21
Speaker 3: the hot mess of the guy, there were several occasions
34:25
Speaker 3: where when I lived with him, when he got like
34:27
Speaker 3: really really wasted, he stopped gaslighting me only when he
34:32
Speaker 3: was like really wasted, and he was like, yeah, this
34:34
Speaker 3: whole situation is really messed up because she was like
34:36
Speaker 3: really horribly abusive to me the year that I lived there,
34:40
Speaker 3: and he would like say things to me when he
34:41
Speaker 3: was like totally wasted. That was like recognized, like, yeah, no,
34:44
Speaker 3: this is it's probably terrible for you.
34:46
Speaker 1: Huh.
34:46
Speaker 3: Your mom died and now you're living with us and
34:49
Speaker 3: not exactly nice to you. And I'm like, yeah, thank you,
34:52
Speaker 3: that's true. They want yeah, just one year, and I
34:56
Speaker 3: just like stopped.
34:57
Speaker 1: You would stuck there from when you were like ten
34:59
Speaker 1: years old or something. No, no, no, no, but I stopped.
35:02
Speaker 3: Like I started dating a guy and I would just
35:04
Speaker 3: like go not like in a slutty way, but I
35:07
Speaker 3: would like go home with him and like his parents
35:09
Speaker 3: would feed me dinner and I would just stay out
35:12
Speaker 3: until bedtime and I stopped eating there.
35:15
Speaker 1: I stopped.
35:15
Speaker 3: It was it was really bad. And then she.
35:18
Speaker 1: Kicked me out and stole all most of my money, and.
35:21
Speaker 3: It was actually really nice because when she did that,
35:24
Speaker 3: I called my mom's ex husband and he drove from
35:28
Speaker 3: Maryland to Manhattan, and I called my cousin who was
35:32
Speaker 3: living in Lower Manhattan but she was like out of
35:35
Speaker 3: town that weekend or something, and they both I called
35:37
Speaker 3: them both like hysterically crying on the street. And I
35:39
Speaker 3: remember I had like seven percent battery and they kept
35:44
Speaker 3: my chargers like it was really messed up. And they
35:47
Speaker 3: both got there within like ten minutes of each other,
35:51
Speaker 3: and they like knocked on her door and tried to
35:54
Speaker 3: like mediate the situation and they were both unsuccessful. And
35:58
Speaker 3: so it was that was pretty bad.
36:01
Speaker 1: Thank god you had people in your corner that's nic Yeah.
36:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I had my high school best friend Morgan also,
36:06
Speaker 3: who I like stayed with her that night and she
36:07
Speaker 3: let me use her charger. Yeah, it was brutal. So yeah,
36:12
Speaker 3: I would love to egg her house, only I don't.
36:15
Speaker 3: I don't want to deal with her ever again. And
36:17
Speaker 3: she's like pathetic and she lives a really sad, horrible
36:21
Speaker 3: life where like she got divorced from that guy and
36:25
Speaker 3: that guy ended up dying.
36:26
Speaker 1: I found his obituary a few years ago.
36:29
Speaker 3: And her parents are dead and she has no children
36:32
Speaker 3: and she lives alone on the beach. Yes, yes, she
36:37
Speaker 3: will horrible little cow and she like lives on the
36:40
Speaker 3: beach in Maryland. She works at like a hotel or something.
36:46
Speaker 3: She's just what a miserable existence. That's I wish her
36:50
Speaker 3: nothing but that misery.
36:51
Speaker 1: So we too. Yeah, I don't even know of this woman,
36:54
Speaker 1: but I hate it, she said my best Yeah. Yeah,
36:58
Speaker 1: so but yeah, no, I've I went.
37:00
Speaker 3: I once went to the beach with my kids and
37:02
Speaker 3: I realized when we were there that we were really
37:04
Speaker 3: close to our house, and my kids all tried to
37:06
Speaker 3: like egg me on to go egg her.
37:08
Speaker 1: House, and I was like, well, do you know how
37:10
Speaker 1: much eggs are these days?
37:12
Speaker 3: I think by that.
37:15
Speaker 1: It's funny. Hi, this is a young Culter. Welcome to
37:23
Speaker 1: my Ricochet podcast.
37:25
Speaker 2: And Coulter Every week on Ricochet, You're home to Center
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Speaker 2: Right Conversation.
37:30
Speaker 1: Hey, that was pretty good. Do you want to talk
37:40
Speaker 1: about the Anna Paulina Luna piece that you didn't for
37:44
Speaker 1: the spectated just because we had a few people message
37:47
Speaker 1: and asked our take on it. But they should last
37:53
Speaker 1: enough to know that I have no idea about like
37:56
Speaker 1: constitution and stuff.
37:58
Speaker 3: Okay, so I want to get your perspective. So I
38:01
Speaker 3: think a lot of people thought that I would be
38:02
Speaker 3: pro it because I'm like raw, raw family and accommodations
38:05
Speaker 3: and everything. But I'm I'm pretty anti So what she
38:09
Speaker 3: wanted to do and she mostly succeeded, unfortunately with who
38:13
Speaker 3: she is, and she's a Republican lawmaker from Florida, and
38:17
Speaker 3: she wanted to change the rules so that mothers who
38:22
Speaker 3: had just recently had a baby could vote remotely when
38:25
Speaker 3: they're congresswomen. We did this whole remote voting thing during
38:30
Speaker 3: COVID and it was horribly abused, and there's just no
38:34
Speaker 3: limiting principle on this, Like why can a woman who
38:36
Speaker 3: has given birth but not someone who's recovering from surgery
38:39
Speaker 3: or whatever, Like you are reopening a Pandora's box that
38:42
Speaker 3: we just opened and it was terrible and was it
38:45
Speaker 3: misused when it was a rich Oh yeah, yeah, the
38:48
Speaker 3: first time they ever they ever allowed proxy voting. It
38:52
Speaker 3: was horribly misused and by everyone, Republicans and Democrats, and
38:57
Speaker 3: so Mike Johnson, this weeeker of the House, was like, no,
39:00
Speaker 3: because we went down that road. You can just miss
39:03
Speaker 3: a couple of votes, it's fine.
39:05
Speaker 1: When did they stop that the proxyvo.
39:08
Speaker 3: So Kevin McCarthy stopped it when he was speaker in
39:10
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three because it was horribly misused. And it's
39:15
Speaker 3: also like there's so many lawmakers who are decrepit weekend
39:20
Speaker 3: at Bernie's, and like Americans need to see that, so
39:28
Speaker 3: they need to we need we need some we need
39:30
Speaker 3: some sunlight and daylight on that. So I wrote the
39:34
Speaker 3: piece sing like, and it's also just frustrating because it
39:37
Speaker 3: perpetuates this notion that like women are like these like
39:41
Speaker 3: porcelain dolls that need special accommodations when they give birth.
39:44
Speaker 3: And I didn't say this in the piece just because
39:46
Speaker 3: it would be really obnoxious, but I'm like, if I
39:49
Speaker 3: could go to Trader Joe's three days after I had
39:51
Speaker 3: a baby, you can. You can go from your office
39:56
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes down to the house floor. I believe in you.
39:59
Speaker 3: You can do it. And Luna said, She's like, you know,
40:02
Speaker 3: when I was four weeks postpartum, I had to fly
40:04
Speaker 3: to DC to make this. Why I'm like, well, if
40:07
Speaker 3: you were giving birth while you're in session, why didn't
40:10
Speaker 3: you just give birth in DC?
40:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And also shouldn't they all live.
40:16
Speaker 3: In d C? They all have a house here or
40:18
Speaker 3: like something some accommodations.
40:21
Speaker 1: Because when I first read this whole thing, I mean,
40:24
Speaker 1: I don't really know much about it, so I'm not
40:25
Speaker 1: definitely not like a guiding voice on it. But when
40:27
Speaker 1: I first read it, I was like, oh, yeah, she
40:29
Speaker 1: should definitely be able to vote, but by probably because
40:32
Speaker 1: she's the new one. And then I read your piece
40:35
Speaker 1: and I read a couple of other things that like
40:38
Speaker 1: they all should be able to commute like from DC.
40:45
Speaker 1: They all have that ability. And also they all have
40:48
Speaker 1: like Nanny's in war.
40:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the number of times that I've brought
40:52
Speaker 3: kids with me to the Hill, Like and I'm not
40:54
Speaker 3: a congresswoman, like you're not, It's not gonna be hard
40:58
Speaker 3: for you to find someone to hold your baby. And
41:00
Speaker 3: also if you can give all of these interviews and
41:05
Speaker 3: all of the and give these speeches holding your baby,
41:08
Speaker 3: you can vote holding your baby. Like I've had a
41:11
Speaker 3: child go to the House floor and vote with a
41:15
Speaker 3: member of Congress.
41:15
Speaker 1: It was very cool. Yeah, but it's cool. It's very cool.
41:19
Speaker 1: So I know they allowed children there. I've had a
41:21
Speaker 1: child do it so.
41:23
Speaker 3: Like you have no excuse, just do the thing off topic.
41:27
Speaker 1: But I just remember that have I ever told you
41:29
Speaker 1: about the time that I was fired from No, Okay,
41:36
Speaker 1: I just remember with this. It was like very into
41:40
Speaker 1: my pregnancy. So I took a fellowship on the Hill.
41:45
Speaker 1: And part of the fellowship is they pay you like
41:48
Speaker 1: a ridiculous amount of.
41:49
Speaker 3: Money to ridiculously small or large large like these.
41:54
Speaker 1: Saloships in DC, like insane somebody told me that they
41:57
Speaker 1: have just been on like a fellowship loop for like
42:00
Speaker 1: a two years, just like doing every single fellowship and
42:04
Speaker 1: just collecting the page. I can't really do anything. So
42:06
Speaker 1: I was like, just send me one. So I got
42:11
Speaker 1: this s followship. And the thing that is required of
42:15
Speaker 1: you and the fellowship is to get a job with
42:17
Speaker 1: a congressman or woman and work for them for a
42:20
Speaker 1: little bit and say like six months or so. So
42:23
Speaker 1: I got a followship and I worked for a well.
42:27
Speaker 1: Originally I got on with George Santos, and I love
42:31
Speaker 1: George Santos, I know, so do I I wanted like
42:34
Speaker 1: the messiest person to do. I know, I know, And
42:39
Speaker 1: I remember where I saw him. It was the Jewish Ranley,
42:46
Speaker 1: just after October seventh in DC, and I bumped into
42:50
Speaker 1: him and I was like, hey, can I get a
42:51
Speaker 1: job with you working your office? He was like yeah, girlfriend,
42:57
Speaker 1: it was all organized, and then he ars did. So
43:01
Speaker 1: then I tried to like a very nice minute. I
43:06
Speaker 1: tried to just get like the stack of messiest person.
43:08
Speaker 1: So it was in some research and then this guy
43:10
Speaker 1: Brandon Williams from New York. I don't know if you
43:12
Speaker 1: know him.
43:13
Speaker 3: He really is yeah, I know.
43:15
Speaker 1: So he had just had a scandal with he was
43:20
Speaker 1: caught on camera at at a Christmas party, like threatening
43:25
Speaker 1: his chief of staff because his chief of Steph had
43:29
Speaker 1: found out that his daughter had an only fan's, like
43:34
Speaker 1: quite a successful only fans and she was making a
43:37
Speaker 1: lot of money on.
43:38
Speaker 3: Is this the congressman's daughter.
43:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was trying I think he was trying
43:43
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna say, allegedly allegedly extort the congressman because
43:48
Speaker 1: he had found out this stuff.
43:50
Speaker 3: And the chief of staff was trying to allegedly extort
43:53
Speaker 3: his boss.
43:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it was all caught on video, and it
43:58
Speaker 1: didn't make it really into the news. Is good. I'll
44:01
Speaker 1: get onto that because I think that's why it's fine.
44:04
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I never had answers. So
44:08
Speaker 1: so I applied to work in and it was all
44:10
Speaker 1: on video, by the way, like you can see him
44:12
Speaker 1: like threshing his chief of stats and being like you
44:15
Speaker 1: don't want to mess with me, like you don't know
44:17
Speaker 1: what I'm going to do. And I was all on video.
44:21
Speaker 1: So I applied to his office and I sat in
44:24
Speaker 1: my falsey B and everything like he knew what I
44:26
Speaker 1: was doing. Obviously I'm a journalist, but I don't think
44:31
Speaker 1: that they did any due diligence or looked into who
44:34
Speaker 1: I was. So after three days in answering and like
44:42
Speaker 1: working for this congressman, I started talking about like journalism
44:46
Speaker 1: and how I'm a journalist and talking about The Spectator.
44:52
Speaker 1: At the time, I had just finished my job as
44:54
Speaker 1: a staff writer for The Spectator. And I see them
44:56
Speaker 1: all like luck at each other, and they're all like
44:58
Speaker 1: very confused. I don't think they knew that I was
45:00
Speaker 1: the gym list, even though I didn't try and hide it.
45:02
Speaker 1: And so then that was the Friday. It's on the Monday.
45:06
Speaker 1: I drive in from Bluemont, where I live. So Nick
45:09
Speaker 1: drives me into the hell and then it takes an
45:14
Speaker 1: hour and then I'm in the office for sweamers and
45:16
Speaker 1: like call Nick and I'm like, you got to come
45:18
Speaker 1: and get me. I'm being fired, and he's like, can
45:20
Speaker 1: you joke? So I walk in and like this little
45:26
Speaker 1: lake I don't know. She's like she was like a
45:28
Speaker 1: fundamentalist Christian and my kind of secretary. She's like eighteen
45:34
Speaker 1: years old by the way. She starts crying and I'm like,
45:36
Speaker 1: are you okay? And she's like, yeah, come into the office.
45:40
Speaker 1: I have something to tell you. And she's like, oh,
45:43
Speaker 1: we've got to let you go. We don't have any
45:45
Speaker 1: room in the office t have you here? And I
45:47
Speaker 1: was like, you sure, because you're crying bigger going on,
45:51
Speaker 1: you know, are you okay? I'm like folding this lady,
45:54
Speaker 1: thank you you okay. And she's like, yeah, we just
45:57
Speaker 1: don't have room for you. You have to go. You
45:59
Speaker 1: have to go now. So it's like, okay, so I've left.
46:02
Speaker 1: I still got paid, by the way. That's like the
46:04
Speaker 1: funniest thing of all this. And so what I have
46:08
Speaker 1: worked out since is the Pavement. The publication that got
46:14
Speaker 1: that scoop about Brandon Williams trying in chief of Status
46:18
Speaker 1: and had the video and everything was The Spectator. And
46:22
Speaker 1: I had just left the staff job for The Spectator.
46:25
Speaker 1: So like from the Internet's perspective, I was still working
46:30
Speaker 1: for The Spectator because my best piece was just like
46:32
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before this. So I think they
46:34
Speaker 1: fired me because they thought that I was trying to
46:36
Speaker 1: like get them.
46:38
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you probably should have tried.
46:40
Speaker 1: Huh.
46:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing.
46:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that.
46:49
Speaker 3: I love it.
46:49
Speaker 1: I love Washington. Oh crazy plice. What I realized is
46:53
Speaker 1: that they, I mean everybody that knew this apart from me,
46:57
Speaker 1: but like that place really is just full of like
46:58
Speaker 1: twenty year olds. Mm hmmm, twenty year old racists. Yeah.
47:03
Speaker 3: No, it's it's pretty rough how much of our federal
47:06
Speaker 3: government is run by people who are like really don't
47:10
Speaker 3: know what they're doing.
47:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Washington.
47:15
Speaker 3: That's a good story.
47:16
Speaker 1: So Anna Paulina Luna, it's a long name. And wait,
47:21
Speaker 1: wasn't she the one who the Daily Beast that was
47:25
Speaker 1: in the East.
47:26
Speaker 3: Why so I think that she So the backstory is
47:30
Speaker 3: she was when she was pregnant, she was feeling sick,
47:35
Speaker 3: and so Trump offered for her to lay down on
47:37
Speaker 3: Air Force one, and the Daily Beast reported it as
47:42
Speaker 3: like Trump.
47:43
Speaker 1: And fights congresswoman into his bed and.
47:46
Speaker 3: Tells her not to tell his wife. But what really
47:49
Speaker 3: happened was I'm not feeling well and Trump was like,
47:53
Speaker 3: go lay down, but don't tell my wife. She gets
47:54
Speaker 3: really weird about other people laying in our bed, and
47:58
Speaker 3: the Daily Beast turned that into a scandal, And so
48:01
Speaker 3: I think that she thought she had a lot of
48:03
Speaker 3: runway to mess with Mike Johnson because of that, because
48:07
Speaker 3: she spoke very forcefully in defense of the president, as
48:11
Speaker 3: she should have because it was just the truth. But
48:14
Speaker 3: I think that she felt like she had a lot
48:16
Speaker 3: of runway to mess with Mike Johnson. And it's not
48:21
Speaker 3: like I understand it's a very sympathetic thing, like you
48:26
Speaker 3: shouldn't drag a woman in when she but like you're
48:30
Speaker 3: a congresswoman and this is just voting as part of
48:33
Speaker 3: the job, and it's not easy, and like you just
48:38
Speaker 3: did that whole profile file of Laura Trump. I think
48:41
Speaker 3: she decided not to run for Senate in North Carolina
48:44
Speaker 3: because maybe she wants to have another baby. I don't know,
48:47
Speaker 3: but I think that she's just like, this is not
48:49
Speaker 3: a point in my life where I can make that
48:51
Speaker 3: kind of commitment because I have such young children. Yeah,
48:53
Speaker 3: and like you have to make that decision, Like if
48:58
Speaker 3: you want to do that, you're going to have to
49:00
Speaker 3: push yourself and like it's not easy. But I just
49:05
Speaker 3: feel very uncharitable because I went to Costco when I
49:08
Speaker 3: was two days postpartum or three days postpartum, and my
49:13
Speaker 3: tradition with all of my most recent children is to
49:15
Speaker 3: go to Trader Joe's like three days later.
49:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just a kind of break.
49:23
Speaker 3: I get really sick at especially towards the end, and
49:27
Speaker 3: I just become like a beached whale. And so when
49:30
Speaker 3: I finally have the child out of me and I
49:32
Speaker 3: have mobility again, I'm like, I have.
49:34
Speaker 1: To do all the things. I want to go to
49:37
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's.
49:37
Speaker 3: Again, because I so my third I mentioned his nickname
49:41
Speaker 3: is Altima because he was born in Seth's car, And
49:45
Speaker 3: so I'm afraid to leave my house at the end
49:48
Speaker 3: of every pregnancy because I have very fast berths, and
49:52
Speaker 3: so I'm afraid to go to Trader Joe's because I
49:54
Speaker 3: don't want to have a baby in Trader Joe's. Although
49:58
Speaker 3: one of the employees did tell me I would have
49:59
Speaker 3: really made out like a bandit if I did have
50:02
Speaker 3: a baby in Trader Joe's because I started like having
50:05
Speaker 3: really bad contractions there once. But anyway, I don't go
50:08
Speaker 3: to Trader Joe's at the end of any pregnancy, or
50:10
Speaker 3: Costco for that matter. And I like shopping in person,
50:14
Speaker 3: but I don't at the end because I'm afraid I'm
50:16
Speaker 3: gonna drop a baby in an aisle.
50:18
Speaker 1: Wait, do you think that they would have given you
50:20
Speaker 1: like a thousand dollars Traded Joe's coop because when I
50:24
Speaker 1: was pregnant towards the end and my mom was Psyche,
50:26
Speaker 1: go to a baby shop because fool is if you
50:30
Speaker 1: give birth in a baby shop, they give you lots
50:33
Speaker 1: of free stuff. And I was dieche, that's an insane
50:36
Speaker 1: thing to do.
50:37
Speaker 3: I am on shat GPT right now and it says
50:41
Speaker 3: if you literally gave birth in a Trader Joe's, they've
50:44
Speaker 3: been known to give people swag bags, maybe free groceries.
50:48
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's hard to know.
50:50
Speaker 1: I don't think it. Spag bag is enough.
50:52
Speaker 3: No, When we had our third in the Ultima Nissan,
50:57
Speaker 3: we tried to get them to give us a free car.
50:59
Speaker 1: It didn't work. They lost o having is that I know? Yeah?
51:04
Speaker 3: I know. And we were in the New York Post
51:06
Speaker 3: on like page three or something of the New York
51:08
Speaker 3: Post that day because Seth was an editor there at
51:10
Speaker 3: the time. So really they lost out on some pr
51:13
Speaker 3: we are like people talked about us on Fox News.
51:16
Speaker 1: You gave faith at a car in New York City.
51:19
Speaker 3: In New Jersey, Okay, we were on TV. Fox News
51:24
Speaker 3: mentioned us Dana Prino mentioned us. Seth Wit wrote about
51:27
Speaker 3: it in the New York Post because he was the
51:28
Speaker 3: editor there at the time. It was funny because he
51:31
Speaker 3: called his boss to tell him he wasn't coming in
51:33
Speaker 3: and then told him that this is what happened. And
51:36
Speaker 3: his boss was like, so you will be writing that
51:38
Speaker 3: for me, and Seth was like, okay, but I'm calling
51:42
Speaker 3: you to tell you that I'm activating my paternity leave
51:46
Speaker 3: and he was and his boss was like, I am
51:48
Speaker 3: not taking no for an answer. I'm going to have
51:50
Speaker 3: a reporter call you and you can dictate it to him.
51:53
Speaker 1: So that's kid. I heard a lot about those days
51:56
Speaker 1: where you could just dictate pieces to like inten.
52:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what he did. So but so anyway,
52:04
Speaker 3: Nissan gave us.
52:06
Speaker 1: What did they do?
52:06
Speaker 3: They cleaned out the car because it was disgusting afterwards,
52:10
Speaker 3: so they detailed it, they painted it, They renewed our
52:15
Speaker 3: registration it was expired.
52:19
Speaker 1: What else? They sent us a onesie? What did they Yeah,
52:24
Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty cute.
52:25
Speaker 3: So it was funny because so in all the hubbub
52:30
Speaker 3: so what so Seth Seth got in the car afterwards,
52:35
Speaker 3: I was in the ambulance with the baby, and he
52:37
Speaker 3: got in his car and followed the ambulance and then
52:41
Speaker 3: he drove home that night and left me and the
52:44
Speaker 3: baby in the hospital and he went home because we
52:46
Speaker 3: had two older kids at home. And then he lost
52:49
Speaker 3: his car keys in like the whole mix of things,
52:54
Speaker 3: and so I called the dealership and I was like,
52:58
Speaker 3: we need a new set of keys, but also I
53:00
Speaker 3: just want to warn you that there was a baby
53:02
Speaker 3: born in the car because there's a lot of blood,
53:07
Speaker 3: and I don't want you to call the police because
53:10
Speaker 3: they had to like break in and tow it to
53:12
Speaker 3: the Nissan dealership to give us a new set of keys.
53:15
Speaker 3: And I was like, I just and it was good
53:19
Speaker 3: that I did that, because they called the police to
53:21
Speaker 3: confirm my story because there's just blood everywhere. Called the
53:27
Speaker 3: police and they were like, so, we just want to
53:30
Speaker 3: make sure that their story is true before we do
53:33
Speaker 3: a detail, because it's a horror crime machine in there.
53:39
Speaker 3: And the police were like, yes, that is true. And
53:42
Speaker 3: then the dealership were like, wait.
53:43
Speaker 1: Hang on, hand on, did you get based at the
53:45
Speaker 1: center in the car as well? Yeah, oh yeah, that
53:50
Speaker 1: is a crime scene.
53:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really bad. So so yeah, so it
53:58
Speaker 3: was good. They called the police to confirm, and then
54:00
Speaker 3: they were like, this is an amazing story and we're
54:02
Speaker 3: going to do it for free.
54:04
Speaker 1: Sorry, I have questions. Did you cut the emphiblical cord
54:07
Speaker 1: in the car?
54:08
Speaker 3: So we uh we? So I gave birth to him
54:13
Speaker 3: and then the police arrived, and the police wanted nothing
54:17
Speaker 3: to do with any like we were both fine, and
54:20
Speaker 3: so they were like, hey, how you doing, and they
54:24
Speaker 3: just kind of like peeked over and they're like, okay, cool,
54:27
Speaker 3: glad to see your elbowth Okay, We're just gonna wait
54:29
Speaker 3: for the empts now. And so the police just stood
54:32
Speaker 3: to the side and wanted nothing to do with it.
54:34
Speaker 3: And so while we were waiting for the empts, I
54:36
Speaker 3: gave birth to the placenta. I gave birth or whatever.
54:38
Speaker 3: I like, what the word is nice? You can keep
54:41
Speaker 3: the placenta attached for like hours and hours and hours,
54:44
Speaker 3: and so I just had the placenta like on the knee, No,
54:49
Speaker 3: the baby on my chest, the placenta on my knee.
54:51
Speaker 3: And then the EMTs got there and I was like, hey, guys.
54:56
Speaker 1: I kind of want to sit to you.
54:58
Speaker 3: Do I'll text you yeah, yeah, I'll send you the
55:01
Speaker 3: like the the graphic ones. I don't have any pictures
55:06
Speaker 3: of like that kind of stuff, like the placenta on
55:08
Speaker 3: maybe don't have that.
55:09
Speaker 1: Oh see, I took about one hundred videos.
55:12
Speaker 3: No, so I do in like all other circumstances. I
55:15
Speaker 3: have a million pictures and videos of all the other births.
55:18
Speaker 3: But I was kind of at the mercy of Seth,
55:19
Speaker 3: who was like also covered in blood, so because.
55:24
Speaker 1: He were you still driving when you gave birth? Like
55:28
Speaker 1: was the castile in motion? Or no?
55:30
Speaker 3: Okay, I was paranoid about giving birth in the car.
55:33
Speaker 3: So I had like asked my midwife about it because
55:36
Speaker 3: I my second was born very quickly, and so it
55:39
Speaker 3: became like a fixation of mine that I like, what
55:41
Speaker 3: do I do if I have a baby in the car?
55:43
Speaker 3: And so I talked to my midwife a lot about
55:44
Speaker 3: it beforehand, and so she said stop the car, and
55:49
Speaker 3: so Seth was It was a three lane highway and
55:52
Speaker 3: Seth was in the left lane, but it was like
55:54
Speaker 3: rush hour and so we weren't going very fast. And
55:59
Speaker 3: when I felt him crowning, I because my water broke.
56:04
Speaker 3: This is very like TMI. So if you're like a
56:08
Speaker 3: man and you don't want to hear this confrontation just
56:11
Speaker 3: like fast forward two minutes. So I my water broke
56:16
Speaker 3: in my sleep, and so I put on a dress,
56:18
Speaker 3: but I never put on underwear, which was smart. And
56:22
Speaker 3: so we were driving and I was my I had
56:26
Speaker 3: called my doula and she told me to lay all
56:28
Speaker 3: the way back, to try to like make gravity my friend,
56:32
Speaker 3: and to keep him in as long as possible, and
56:35
Speaker 3: you like have that urge to push, and so I
56:37
Speaker 3: was like, I'm just gonna push just a little bit,
56:40
Speaker 3: just to get the feeling out. And then I reached
56:43
Speaker 3: up and I felt his head and I was like,
56:47
Speaker 3: game over, this is it. And I told Seth. I
56:49
Speaker 3: was like, we're done. Here we are, and he uh pulled.
56:53
Speaker 3: He was in the left lane and he pulled across
56:56
Speaker 3: three lanes of traffic and like drove into the the
57:00
Speaker 3: parking lot of an autobody shop and there was just
57:02
Speaker 3: gravel everywhere because it was like not even pavement, it
57:06
Speaker 3: was gravel pavement. And I was really mad at him
57:08
Speaker 3: at the time because when he opened the door, like
57:12
Speaker 3: the baby was just covered in gravel, like when he
57:15
Speaker 3: was born, like there's still dust everywhere, and he was
57:18
Speaker 3: just covered in gravel. And I was like, why couldn't
57:20
Speaker 3: you pull into McDonald's that like they had pavement, And
57:22
Speaker 3: he was like, oh, did you want an audience?
57:24
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, that's a fair point. Okay,
57:29
Speaker 1: well so I'll he with a woman who just gave back, right.
57:33
Speaker 3: But he was right, like I didn't want an audience,
57:35
Speaker 3: and there was a million people in the drive through lane,
57:38
Speaker 3: so he made the right choice. Yeah, But by the
57:40
Speaker 3: time he crossed over those three lanes of traffic, his
57:44
Speaker 3: head was out and then it was like, oh my oh.
57:47
Speaker 1: This's terrifying. Oh my god, I can't even imagine.
57:50
Speaker 3: It was really scary. And like the first like sixty
57:55
Speaker 3: seconds of a baby like coming out, they're not breathing,
57:58
Speaker 3: which is normal, yeah, fine, but like when you have
58:03
Speaker 3: and he he came out purple because of how fast
58:06
Speaker 3: he was born. So like when you have a purple
58:08
Speaker 3: baby on your chest who's like not breathing and you're
58:11
Speaker 3: screaming at the nine one one operator and they don't
58:14
Speaker 3: have any information to tell you, like where is a
58:17
Speaker 3: policeman wears an e MT what do we do? She
58:20
Speaker 3: had zero information. It's pretty scary.
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Speaker 1: How long did it take for the avidence to go?
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Speaker 1: I don't think very long. I think like fifteen minutes.
58:29
Speaker 1: I mean, like I was.
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Speaker 3: I was, yeah, I was able to. Like I so
58:32
Speaker 3: I had had a friend who had a baby in
58:34
Speaker 3: her car, not in her car, in her toilet, my
58:36
Speaker 3: friend Sarah, and so I like had this like vision
58:41
Speaker 3: of remembering what her blog post said, and her nine
58:44
Speaker 3: one one operator who was not an idiot, said, get
58:48
Speaker 3: get a blanket and just rub the babies back, like
58:51
Speaker 3: pretty strongly to get them, you know, breathing and awake
58:53
Speaker 3: and everything. And I did that and he was he
58:55
Speaker 3: was good. He was fine, but like he has no
58:57
Speaker 3: Appgar scores, like we don't know any of that, Like
59:00
Speaker 3: there's just, oh my god, he was breathing. He was fine,
59:04
Speaker 3: but he was he was covered in gravel, like really disgustingly.
59:09
Speaker 3: I never said yes to a baby bath with the
59:12
Speaker 3: other five kids. And the second he was born, I
59:16
Speaker 3: was like, can we just wash him please, because he's
59:18
Speaker 3: covered in gravel. But because the air was still like
59:23
Speaker 3: from when he opened the door to when he was
59:25
Speaker 3: out was sixty seconds, like it was nothing, so there
59:29
Speaker 3: was still like all the gravel in the air.
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Speaker 1: That was so true.
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Speaker 3: So it was funny because I when we got to
59:36
Speaker 3: the hospital and Seth like parked the car like and
59:40
Speaker 3: ran and so he got there pretty much the same
59:43
Speaker 3: at the same time as they're taking me off the
59:46
Speaker 3: gurney in the emergency room, and I started having panic attack,
59:49
Speaker 3: like a full blown and they were and I was like,
59:52
Speaker 3: why am I doing this now? Like I had a
59:54
Speaker 3: baby twenty minutes ago, and they're like, yeah, because the
59:56
Speaker 3: adrenaline is wearing off. And You're like, now you're in
59:59
Speaker 3: a place of say yeah, and now now you can
1:00:03
Speaker 3: give yourself that moment to panic, and I they had to.
1:00:06
Speaker 3: They had to hold me in the in the emergency
1:00:08
Speaker 3: room for a while, and they they I think that
1:00:10
Speaker 3: they were thinking about medicating me because I was having
1:00:14
Speaker 3: a full blown panic attack. I felt like I couldn't
1:00:16
Speaker 3: hold a baby. I was like shaking so much. I
1:00:18
Speaker 3: was like I just need, I need a few minutes.
1:00:21
Speaker 3: And it was scary, not a fan terrible. Yeah, and
1:00:26
Speaker 3: then I had three babies at home because I never
1:00:27
Speaker 3: wanted to get into a car again.
1:00:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense because I would
1:00:32
Speaker 1: not want to.
1:00:33
Speaker 3: Do it, which is also why I stopped going shopping
1:00:36
Speaker 3: because I was terrified of having baby in public.
1:00:41
Speaker 1: I mean in public is better than alone in a car.
1:00:43
Speaker 3: I think, really, yeah, I would not want to do
1:00:47
Speaker 3: that in front of people, like random people. No, I
1:00:50
Speaker 3: mean like it's not great, but like maybe there's a
1:00:52
Speaker 3: doctor in the shop or something that. I mean I
1:00:55
Speaker 3: realized from that, like if a baby comes out that fast,
1:00:58
Speaker 3: they're fine. I don't need help, And I don't really
1:01:01
Speaker 3: want to be like I don't I don't want to
1:01:04
Speaker 3: be the center of attention like that.
1:01:06
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair. I mean it took me two hours
1:01:08
Speaker 1: to push my baby out, so.
1:01:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, with like my vagina in front of people and
1:01:12
Speaker 3: everything and like hmm, no, thank you.
1:01:16
Speaker 1: But you're funny, right, I have to go because it's
1:01:20
Speaker 1: the last episode of the White Loasus.
1:01:25
Speaker 3: My baby has woken up three times while we've done
1:01:27
Speaker 3: on this podcast.
1:01:28
Speaker 1: So but I think it gives like a good ambience to.
1:01:32
Speaker 3: The mom could you hear it? Yeah?
1:01:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds great. It adds like a little charm,
1:01:38
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