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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, March 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now.
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Speaker 1: Welcome into another Huddle Up podcast. J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
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Speaker 1: John Osier back with us this week and planning to
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Speaker 1: get to free agency is just a few hours away,
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Speaker 1: but I feel like it's already been done. The negotiation
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Speaker 1: window is open. We'll get to all the reported names,
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Speaker 1: and there are many reported to be affiliated with the Jaguars.
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Speaker 1: Moving ahead, Tuesday was an interesting day, Jaguars fans freaking
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Speaker 1: out early, but they seem to cool off in the afternoon.
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Speaker 1: We'll get the mindset there. We'll go through some of
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Speaker 1: the players that have agreed to terms of course, a
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Speaker 1: few big names around the NFL, and some social media questions.
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Speaker 1: Was hot and heavy on Twitter this week. Remember to
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Speaker 1: that five star rating. John Osier, Bucky Brooks, Bucky, I mean, John,
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Speaker 1: you've been busy, certainly. I know that on the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: side of things, getting ready for when things can actually
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Speaker 1: be reported by the Jaguars. But Bucky, you're all over
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Speaker 1: the place with the free agency frenzy. Now, it's a lot,
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Speaker 1: it's a lot going on. It's bananas watching all of
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Speaker 1: the activity. I think the NFL has done a great
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Speaker 1: job of making uh the league relevant twelve months out
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Speaker 1: the year. Every month there's some kind of similar moment
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Speaker 1: where you have to pay attention. Free agency frenzy has
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Speaker 1: become like a a thing where you have to see
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Speaker 1: all these things, these deals that are reported but not official,
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Speaker 1: and so we're trying to figure out who's who in
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Speaker 1: West what. But it's exciting. And then with the Jaguar
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Speaker 1: is just a flurry of activity over the last couple
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Speaker 1: of days. We will see a brand new squad when
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Speaker 1: they take the field. Yeah, John, this time he years
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Speaker 1: is quite interesting because it's you know, as players that
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Speaker 1: aren't going back to the original team for one reason
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Speaker 1: or another. But there's big money flying out the door. John, Well,
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Speaker 1: it's huge money. And I would I think we all
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Speaker 1: talked about this last week that by this time this
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Speaker 1: week we would have a good idea of what their
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Speaker 1: approach and their philosophy was going to be in the build.
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Speaker 1: And I understand that fans panicked when there was no
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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't sign United star Lombardi, the whole
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Speaker 1: bunch at twelve oh one yesterday, So everybody's panicking, and
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Speaker 1: I understand that. But now that you're sort of seeing
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Speaker 1: the big picture of what they're doing, we'll go through
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Speaker 1: some of the names later. But they clearly thought they
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Speaker 1: needed a couple of starters in the secondary. They thought
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Speaker 1: they needed to beef up the defensive line. Lo and behold,
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Speaker 1: guess what, JP. They wound up doing that after that
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Speaker 1: first you know, I'm say after the first wave. The
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Speaker 1: first wave is a couple of days of this they
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Speaker 1: did after the first hour. So they're okay, And I
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Speaker 1: think you're seeing clearly with the what is it twelve guy?
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Speaker 1: At the time of this talk, they knew they had
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Speaker 1: to get some positions filled where they didn't want a
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Speaker 1: repeat of two thousand thirteen. Jpn O what I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about two thousand thirteen when the last regime came in here,
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Speaker 1: they touched to the core and said we're gonna build
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Speaker 1: with rookies and let them develop. Looking back, that didn't work.
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Speaker 1: It was too much too soon for a lot of guys,
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Speaker 1: and because of rookies. They couldn't function a lot of times. Well,
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Speaker 1: this Brazime clearly said, you know what, we need some
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Speaker 1: help compared to last year, but we need to have
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Speaker 1: some twenty seven or twenty eight year old guys, where
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Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen they were twenty two year old guys.
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Speaker 1: That's a big difference in the NFL. They're trying to
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Speaker 1: make sure they're not overmanned an outmatch next year. JP.
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Speaker 1: Yeah no, no more of this youngest team in the
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Speaker 1: NFL stuff with some of the names that are reported.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to those coming up, Bucky. Those days seemed
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Speaker 1: like a lot of draft he or not the sign
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Speaker 1: J not yet, not yet. I keep looking. I keep
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Speaker 1: looking at the phone, waiting for the ninto four number
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Speaker 1: to come up. But it hasn't popped up yet. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they're waiting. Maybe they're waiting for it to be official. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like it's funny though, Like that's a great point and observation, uh,
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Speaker 1: John about the team getting older, because one of the
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Speaker 1: things that you always worried about when you have a
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Speaker 1: college coach, are they going to have a lot of
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Speaker 1: real young players and maybe too young because that's their
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Speaker 1: their comfort zone. That's their sweet spot. But because they've
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Speaker 1: actually inherited a roster that already had a lot of youth,
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Speaker 1: they wanted to ask some experience and some expertise, and
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Speaker 1: they certainly have done that with the names that they
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Speaker 1: brought in. I am still curious. I can't wait to
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Speaker 1: see what this looks like when they get on the
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Speaker 1: field together, because right now it's kind of like a
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Speaker 1: hodgepodge of a bunch of different players with different talents.
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Speaker 1: Now you want to see how are they going to
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Speaker 1: fit them in into whatever scheme The Jacks play on
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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. So let's go now on
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Speaker 1: the Huddle Up Podcast to some of the names that
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Speaker 1: have been reported and reportedly linked to the Jacksonville Jaguars
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days, and let's start off
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Speaker 1: with the biggest of them all. Now, note we are
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Speaker 1: recording this Tuesday afternoon at five thirty. Maybe there's a
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Speaker 1: bigger name after this before the airs at eight am.
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Speaker 1: But Shaquille Griffin, cornerback from Seattle a three year deal
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Speaker 1: reportedly up to forty four and a half million twenty
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Speaker 1: nine million guaranteed, has six career interceptions, three of those
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Speaker 1: last season and Bucky He's he was the top corner available. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now it's it's funny because there's you always wonder how
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Speaker 1: these corners going to play, leaving one scheme going to another.
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Speaker 1: But what I would say about Shaquille Griffin long he's athletic.
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Speaker 1: You talked about six career interceptions. Part of that is
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Speaker 1: because they play so much man to man on the outside.
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Speaker 1: His back is always at the quarterback, so he didn't
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Speaker 1: get a chance to get a lot of those easy
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Speaker 1: interceptions off tips and overthrows. Uh, tough tackling on the perimeter,
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Speaker 1: has the ability to play press, not necessarily an off corner.
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Speaker 1: When we think about how this scheme and how they
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Speaker 1: typically will play, I would expect them to be nose
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Speaker 1: and nose in the face of the receivers a ton.
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Speaker 1: But I think the comfort comes in you now have
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Speaker 1: an experienced player who may be able to handle the
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Speaker 1: duties of the number one role. So now C. J.
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Speaker 1: Henderson can kind of come along and figure it out
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Speaker 1: as he's getting comfortable with the league, and then maybe
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Speaker 1: he eventually will take it over. But right now, I
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Speaker 1: think Shaquille Griffin comes over. He's the number one, and
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Speaker 1: then CJ. Henderson will go to the other side and
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Speaker 1: maybe match up with whoever is on that side. It
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Speaker 1: strikes me they just got good at corner. C J
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Speaker 1: is not bad, you don't know what he is, but
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Speaker 1: they went from being really questionable with corner too potentially
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Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I mean, I think so. I think.
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Speaker 1: I think it is one where you upgraded because not
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Speaker 1: only c J and um Griffin, but it's bringing the
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Speaker 1: other guys back. We talked last year during the regular
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Speaker 1: season about Sidney Jones being someone that was of interest
6:56
Speaker 1: because he was a second round pick for the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 1: Had the Achilles never really came back. Comes down to
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Speaker 1: Jacksonvia plays a handful of games and held up pretty
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Speaker 1: well in those things. So now as you beef it
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Speaker 1: out and think about your nickel and your dime packages
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Speaker 1: where you have five and six defenders on the field, well,
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Speaker 1: now it looks like you have four athletic corners that
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Speaker 1: command those roles. You go and get another safety and
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Speaker 1: those things you feel better about your defense in the
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Speaker 1: back end. Let's stay on the secondary. Ray Sean Jenkins
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Speaker 1: added six pounder of fourth round pick in out of
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Speaker 1: Miami by the Chargers, a regular starter the last two
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Speaker 1: years for the Chargers and five career picks Bucky over
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Speaker 1: the last two seasons those interceptions. Yeah, he got bummed
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Speaker 1: into the starting lineup when they had injuries to Derwin James,
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Speaker 1: So that gave my opportunity to get on the field.
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Speaker 1: He spent the first two years really uh dominating as
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Speaker 1: a special teams player, very active cover teams, can do
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Speaker 1: all those things. As safety, I would say he's solid.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that he's exceptional in any area. I
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Speaker 1: think what you do is you have someone that you
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Speaker 1: can put in a spot as a place older and
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Speaker 1: if he starts, great, but if you find better then
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Speaker 1: it doesn't prevent you from signing him. And so we'll
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Speaker 1: see there's so many names and there's so many critical
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Speaker 1: positions to the the backups that you just need to
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Speaker 1: make sure you keep stock stock filling talent. We just
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Speaker 1: continue to need more talent. Yeah, and the back end
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Speaker 1: of that secondary. John we mentioned the corner spots a
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Speaker 1: moment ago, but it urban Meyer the other week said
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Speaker 1: it's the full secondary needs some work in places and
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Speaker 1: this is a big get. It feels like, Yeah, when
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Speaker 1: he talked about it, he said it was gonad to
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Speaker 1: be built. He mentioned c. J. Henderson, didn't really mention
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Speaker 1: anybody else, So Bucky talked about corner safety. Now you've
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Speaker 1: got Daniel Thomas, you have Jared Wilson, you have what
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Speaker 1: seems to be a bunch of solid veteran guys who
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Speaker 1: have been there before. Not Daniel Thomas. He's in the
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Speaker 1: second year. There's some potential there, but you don't know
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Speaker 1: what it was. He didn't play enough last year to
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Speaker 1: know what he is. So wouldn't surprise me if somewhere
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Speaker 1: in those first five picks if safety came up, just
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Speaker 1: because there's there's some stuff now, but what you do
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Speaker 1: like and and this is the lead wide thing teams
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Speaker 1: try to do. But it seems like they're accomplishing it
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Speaker 1: looks like they're accomplishing the goal of if something's not
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Speaker 1: really grabbing them at the draft outside a quarterback, that
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Speaker 1: they don't have to go particular directions. And at safety,
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Speaker 1: if the more we kid is there still makes sense.
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Speaker 1: If he's not there, you don't have to reach it
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Speaker 1: that spot. It seems in the secondary they've accomplished not
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Speaker 1: having to reach in the draft. Yeah, I think that's
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Speaker 1: what you're you're trying to do some of whom is
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Speaker 1: mitigating risks. Jack, you don't know how the draft is
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Speaker 1: gonna play out, so you want to make sure that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's make you ringing a veteran who maybe at his
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Speaker 1: worse he can be a placeholder. Um, he can be
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Speaker 1: a placeholder until maybe drafted, we're able to find a
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Speaker 1: guy that unexpectingly falls into our lap, that plays a
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Speaker 1: position of need at safety. But if we don't get that,
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Speaker 1: we don't have that. If that situation doesn't come to fruition,
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Speaker 1: we feel good about the veteran playing and taking over
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Speaker 1: and maybe in a one year stop gap at the position.
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Speaker 1: So it's really an attempt by Balky and erber Meyer
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Speaker 1: to cover their basis when it comes to building a
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Speaker 1: team and make sure that they are okay with everything
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Speaker 1: that's going on from a personnel standpoint. Podcast rolling along
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Speaker 1: looking at some of the reported names that are with
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars agreeing to terms via reports, and let's go
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Speaker 1: to the defensive line now. And this was the area
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Speaker 1: on defense where Urban said he wanted to start things
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Speaker 1: and they certainly have done that. Defensive tackle Roy Robertson
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Speaker 1: Harris from the Bears, an undrafted player out of U
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Speaker 1: TAP in twos sixteen, he was an exclusive rights and
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Speaker 1: restricted free agent after eighteen and nineteen, he signed the
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Speaker 1: tender both years, went back to Chicago, had shoulder issues
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Speaker 1: last year. Then a familiar name, Tyson Alolo, veteran defensive tackle.
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Speaker 1: We know him, we love him here in Jacksonville and
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Speaker 1: in theory. He probably could have been a lifelong Jaguar,
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Speaker 1: but he spent some time in Pittsburgh. He's coming back reportedly,
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Speaker 1: and then late Tuesday a report of a trade the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Saints, and the Saints will send defensive
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Speaker 1: lineman Malcolm Brown over. No word as of this moment
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Speaker 1: what the Jaguars move would be, Bucky, But there you go,
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Speaker 1: three big defensive names on the group in the defensive line.
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Speaker 1: That's a That's an area where Urban and Trent buck
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Speaker 1: you really wanted to make an impact. Yeah, we talked
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Speaker 1: about it Earlier's experience and expertise. Experience in terms of
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Speaker 1: veteran players who played a lot of snaps. They understand
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Speaker 1: what it should look like, blocking schemes and those things,
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Speaker 1: and then expertise understanding how to take techniques and utilize them.
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Speaker 1: To give them opportunities to make place. That is really
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Speaker 1: the key, and I think it's a common denominated for
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Speaker 1: a lot of the moves that have been made. UH
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Speaker 1: experienced guys who have been able to dominate or play
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Speaker 1: at a high level at various various times throughout their career.
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Speaker 1: But maybe they can show the next generation how to prepare,
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Speaker 1: how to play, how to kind of become a professional.
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Speaker 1: So when Urban gets it going and maybe year two
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Speaker 1: or three, they can share some of those veterans and
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Speaker 1: the young guys are ready to stuff up and take
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Speaker 1: over the team. I should have seen that Tyson was coming.
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Speaker 1: He makes perfect sense in the sense he's played for Colin.
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Speaker 1: Colin loved him as a coach. You can't be around
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Speaker 1: you can't be around Tyson, and I love him. He's
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Speaker 1: everything you want the player. I like the fact that
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Speaker 1: he's been to Pittsburgh, He's seen how he now knows
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Speaker 1: how to win. He's always known how to prepare. He's
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Speaker 1: the consummer professional. I admit I don't know. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if about Malcolm Brown to speak intelligently, but what
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Speaker 1: they had to do if they're going to a three four,
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Speaker 1: which is more and more feels like they are. I
12:39
Speaker 1: think we all kind of see that you've got the
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Speaker 1: outside edge guys. What they didn't have, which you couldn't
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Speaker 1: quite figure out where they're gonna do it, knows do
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Speaker 1: they have enough guys to play those big end spots.
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Speaker 1: Clearly because of what Bucky will tell you is it
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Speaker 1: is not a good draft. Didn't seem like there's any
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Speaker 1: sort of quick impact there in the draft. They want
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Speaker 1: to have the bodies. They want to be able to
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Speaker 1: rotate on the interior. When I say interior, I mean
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Speaker 1: big and defensive tackle. They're doing that in free agency. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think it's the continuation of being able to do that,
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Speaker 1: Like they want to get bigger, they want to be dynamic.
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Speaker 1: In verse that you think about the Baltimore Ravens defense,
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Speaker 1: it was their ability to kind of change change fronts,
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Speaker 1: change coverage, give a bunch of different presentations to the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: With Jackson me. When you look at the personnel and
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Speaker 1: I think of it outside in the edge, Rushes, caleban
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Speaker 1: Chasing and Josh Allen, they're not really defensive man's. These
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Speaker 1: guys are stand up, move around, active, run around linebackers.
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Speaker 1: Because you go to a three four there's a possibility
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Speaker 1: of being able to get both of those guys on
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Speaker 1: the field doing things that they're very, very comfortable doing.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's go back on the offensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball, and late on Tuesday, the Jaguars reportedly agree
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Speaker 1: to terms with wide receiver Marvin Jones. Four seasons in
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati earlier in his career, the last five in Detroit,
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Speaker 1: So a veteran receiver. Ear of your Tuesday. Wide receiver
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Speaker 1: Philip Dorset, a first round pickback in by the Colts
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Speaker 1: out of Miami. He had a foot injury last season,
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Speaker 1: didn't play in Indianapolis. And Carlos Hyde, former Jaguars running
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Speaker 1: back from eighteen, connections to Urban Meyer, Trent Waalkey, and
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Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. Well, looking at those connections and talking about
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Speaker 1: how important connections were with Uran Maya the other week,
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Speaker 1: it it kind of makes sense. Played here in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 1: As we said, those are the three offensive editions. Some
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Speaker 1: special teams editions as well. Rudy Ford special teamer, he
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Speaker 1: was a sixth round pick with the Cardinals. Jamal Agnew,
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Speaker 1: a return specialist who is first team All Pro punt
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Speaker 1: returner back in tweventeen. Those are some bigger names we
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Speaker 1: left off a defensive end, jahad Ward from the Ravens
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Speaker 1: as well on the defensive side. Those really kind of
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Speaker 1: wrap up. Any of those stand out to you, Bucky,
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Speaker 1: of those handful, Jamoagen stands out to me because when
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Speaker 1: I'm when I'm sensing a team that wants to be
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Speaker 1: in a position to be able to play a company
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Speaker 1: before ball, So run it on offense, build up the defense,
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Speaker 1: be a little better, flip the field in the kicking game,
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Speaker 1: having returning to get ten your returns, being able to
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Speaker 1: really put them in ideal scoring position. I think that's
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Speaker 1: how you have to kind of build this out because
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Speaker 1: you're going you're going to start a rookie at quarterback,
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Speaker 1: so you can't necessarily to count on the offense to
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Speaker 1: be their weekend week out. You have to have some
15:25
Speaker 1: other vehicles can that can drive the team's success. And
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Speaker 1: John the having a veteran wide receiver. You know, the
15:31
Speaker 1: last couple of years, Chris Connolly has been around here,
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Speaker 1: you guys has been around the league for just a
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Speaker 1: little bit. Feels like he may not be back, especially
15:38
Speaker 1: when you sign a guy like Marvin Jones who has
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Speaker 1: been around the league for nine years. Yeah, you wouldn't think.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think that Connelly would be back. Certainly Westbrook,
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't think comes back. Its seen about Keeling Cole,
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Speaker 1: We'll see um. You know, I'm probably the most curious
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Speaker 1: about Philip Dorsett because he's one of these sort of
15:56
Speaker 1: untapped potential guys. He can certainly run. I mean when
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Speaker 1: Urban talks about when somebody can make an impact there,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem Bucky like the book has completely been
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Speaker 1: written on him. He hasn't lived up to the first
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Speaker 1: round the status obviously. Is there something there or is
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Speaker 1: this a hail Mary? How would you describe them? You know,
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Speaker 1: it's it's tough, right because what you wanna do is
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Speaker 1: is when you make these moves and you're trying to
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Speaker 1: trying to figure it out, like former first rounder is,
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Speaker 1: you always want to kick the tires on them because
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Speaker 1: there's a level of talent that someone many teams in
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Speaker 1: the league saw. So maybe a change of environment, a
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Speaker 1: change of scheme, a change of coaches can unlock that potential.
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Speaker 1: And so you're willing to take those risks because man,
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Speaker 1: former first round picks, man, they tend to hit and
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Speaker 1: intended to be a very consensus choice when someone is
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Speaker 1: viewed as a first round So you absolutely ower to
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Speaker 1: your team and your franchise to kick the tires and
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Speaker 1: maybe you feel like you have a program or a
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Speaker 1: team or a scheme team that will maximize the players
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Speaker 1: talents unlike the previous situation, and we failed to mention
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Speaker 1: so far. Chris manners the tight end really a blocking
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Speaker 1: tight end four point to five million dollars guaranteed reportedly.
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Speaker 1: Do you agree with that? So you make a face,
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Speaker 1: Bucky at the blocking tight end comment. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: mean it's not it's not the tight end that we
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Speaker 1: were expecting in terms of how we thought they were
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Speaker 1: going to utilize it. I mean, both of those guys
17:27
Speaker 1: end up going to New England. Yes, there's a there's
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Speaker 1: a role for blocking tight end, but let's be honest here.
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Speaker 1: Here's what I would say about the tight end. The
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Speaker 1: play caller has to know how to feature and maximize
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Speaker 1: the tight end in this offense. Uh, Darryl Bill, you
17:42
Speaker 1: go back and look at the history. They had Jimmy
17:45
Speaker 1: Graham for a little bit in Seattle, but he didn't
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Speaker 1: put up the kind of numbers he was putting up
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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. And so the danger is, man, you overpay,
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Speaker 1: you get a big time tight end, but do you
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Speaker 1: have the billy call plays to utilize him. And everyone
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Speaker 1: doesn't have that club in their bag. And so I
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Speaker 1: like the receivers on the outside. I like Marvin Jones
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Speaker 1: coming over. Um. I think he really helps him. He's
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Speaker 1: not necessarily a one, but he's a one bat ish
18:08
Speaker 1: type where he can handle some of the load if
18:10
Speaker 1: you need to. So while DJ Charik and the Visca
18:14
Speaker 1: and those guys are growing up, I think you have
18:15
Speaker 1: a steady, eddy, dependable playmate. The apparently the Eagles have
18:19
Speaker 1: given zach ERT's permission to seek a trade. Just we're
18:23
Speaker 1: on the topic. Just he's coming to We think he's
18:26
Speaker 1: coming to Florida. I don't say that. I was just
18:28
Speaker 1: bringing up he's a tight end and he is a
18:31
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, he is a tight end. He probably
18:34
Speaker 1: don't want his deal sweeten up a little bit. He's
18:36
Speaker 1: just not gonna sign. He's not gonna sign it. He's
18:39
Speaker 1: gonna say I want to look, I want some more
18:41
Speaker 1: cheese on the burger. About that there were a team
18:45
Speaker 1: with some caps fake if only we could find it.
18:49
Speaker 1: I'm kidding I don't do anything, But how's this JP
18:52
Speaker 1: and Bucky for an analogy? And it's probably pretty odds,
18:55
Speaker 1: but he guys come in here, you're looking at the
18:57
Speaker 1: roster at some point before where you go by the
19:01
Speaker 1: prime rib. You've got to get some meat and potatoes
19:04
Speaker 1: so you can eat. And they clearly looked at the
19:08
Speaker 1: roster this free agency period. To me, they clearly said, look,
19:12
Speaker 1: we've got to have some guys so that we can
19:14
Speaker 1: line up, and so we can't spend all seventy million
19:19
Speaker 1: we have on They couldn't go fifty million and give
19:23
Speaker 1: all that cap space to two players. So I think
19:27
Speaker 1: it shows you something about I get the fans wanted
19:30
Speaker 1: a little more, but I think it shows you the
19:32
Speaker 1: reality is these guys look at this roster and said,
19:34
Speaker 1: we've got to get to a certain level first before
19:39
Speaker 1: we try to go to the next level. The guy
19:41
Speaker 1: that's gonna put us over the top. I don't put
19:43
Speaker 1: words in their mouth, because that's what the first couple
19:46
Speaker 1: of days looked like to make makes a lot of sense.
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20:43
Speaker 1: and the negotiation window and the New England Patriots are
20:49
Speaker 1: spending some money this week guys. Apparently Bill Belichick at
20:53
Speaker 1: seven and nine likes to go shopping for things. Bucky. Yes,
20:58
Speaker 1: the New England paces apps putting themselves in a position
21:01
Speaker 1: to maybe uh RE emerges one of the top teams.
21:04
Speaker 1: They have spend money like we have never seen the
21:06
Speaker 1: Patriots spend money. A lot of veteran players coming over
21:10
Speaker 1: uh The deals are eye popping, but they're not necessarily
21:13
Speaker 1: jaw dropping. You don't see like the crazy deals. Matt
21:16
Speaker 1: Junin goes over. They signed Nelson Agilar, They bring in
21:20
Speaker 1: a host of other Jalen Smith, Mills, and a bunch
21:23
Speaker 1: of other defensive players to help out. I think the
21:25
Speaker 1: main thing has been the two tight ends though, Hunter
21:28
Speaker 1: Henry and John hu Smith. That's the one that opened
21:31
Speaker 1: your eyes, because in the end, you're beginning to think back,
21:33
Speaker 1: are they going back to the old Rob Gronkowski late
21:37
Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez situation with the two tight ends that just
21:40
Speaker 1: created so many different problems. And oh, by the way,
21:43
Speaker 1: they brought Cam Newton back so he can run it
21:46
Speaker 1: and he had twelve to rushing touchdowns this season ago,
21:48
Speaker 1: Are they gonna just run it with the quarterback and
21:50
Speaker 1: just pounded, pounded, pounded, um go old school Patriots. You know,
21:56
Speaker 1: you just wonder what are they setting up? But he
22:00
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has been in the lab. He didn't like,
22:02
Speaker 1: he didn't like that seven and Night. He doesn't like
22:04
Speaker 1: being some five funch. No tolerance, no tolerance for mediocrity
22:08
Speaker 1: over there. No, they will they will spend trying to
22:11
Speaker 1: get things right. And John the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Apparently
22:15
Speaker 1: you are going for two. They're signing everybody. They're bringing
22:17
Speaker 1: it on back John this year. Yeah, you wonder, Um,
22:21
Speaker 1: I haven't dived deep into what they're doing. You sort
22:24
Speaker 1: of wonder. I get why they're doing it, and it's
22:27
Speaker 1: what you have to do. You do wonder can you
22:30
Speaker 1: do it twice? Can you catch lightning in that bottle
22:32
Speaker 1: twice with this button? Or will you look back and
22:36
Speaker 1: say those older guys finally reached their shelf life and
22:40
Speaker 1: it didn't work. Um. Now, now, don't get me wrong,
22:43
Speaker 1: the approach they took is the only one to take.
22:46
Speaker 1: You feel like you've got a team that can win.
22:48
Speaker 1: They just showed they could win, So you go forward
22:51
Speaker 1: a second time. Nobody would do it differently. You just
22:54
Speaker 1: sort of wonder sometimes when you go forward a second
22:57
Speaker 1: time and it doesn't work out, or judge more harshly.
23:02
Speaker 1: That's just that's kind of me throwing it out there.
23:04
Speaker 1: But you've got to do what they did. You've got
23:07
Speaker 1: after the end. They have the scary thing about the Bucks.
23:10
Speaker 1: I think Bucky would say this too. They got better
23:12
Speaker 1: late in the season, and they looked like they were
23:15
Speaker 1: an ascending team, and they looked really good at the
23:18
Speaker 1: end of the season, so they may be one of
23:20
Speaker 1: those teams he gets hot at the end of the year,
23:22
Speaker 1: wins one, and he can give another run next year. Now,
23:25
Speaker 1: obviously you don't know how long it's gonna last with
23:26
Speaker 1: Brady because's probably only gon to play until he's about
23:28
Speaker 1: fifty five, So you've probably only got about ten years
23:32
Speaker 1: left with this guy. Well, I mean at some point,
23:35
Speaker 1: you said, I mean, at some point he has to
23:38
Speaker 1: fall off. Now he was able to in the postseason.
23:42
Speaker 1: The defense play lights out, and the defense playing lights
23:45
Speaker 1: out really should have overshadowed Tom Brady doing what he
23:48
Speaker 1: was able to contribute in the championship game, even in
23:51
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But the defense is young and athletic,
23:55
Speaker 1: and I give them credit for making sure that they
23:57
Speaker 1: took care of their core players from that defense so
23:59
Speaker 1: that defense returns. That gives them a shot there right away.
24:03
Speaker 1: But I do wonder with all of the toys, and
24:06
Speaker 1: the toy Ben and uh Tom continue to add things,
24:10
Speaker 1: how do they manage all of this? Because it's one
24:13
Speaker 1: thing to make the sacrifice and win it. When now
24:15
Speaker 1: when you win it, people begin to want credit. Can
24:18
Speaker 1: they keep everything? Can you keep the train heading in
24:22
Speaker 1: the right direction, because then you see book deals and
24:24
Speaker 1: all this other stuff, and it was me, no, not
24:28
Speaker 1: that stuff can kind of create a divide in the
24:30
Speaker 1: locker room. So I'm curious to see how they handle
24:32
Speaker 1: that now. They may not have Lombardi Lenny to work
24:35
Speaker 1: with next year. Either Lombardi Lenny may make his way
24:40
Speaker 1: up to either New England or maybe Seattle. That would
24:42
Speaker 1: be interesting to see where Lombardi Lenny ends up. We've
24:47
Speaker 1: had some guys this week come back. I don't know
24:50
Speaker 1: that Lombardi Landy is coming back. I think he's I
24:53
Speaker 1: think he's his time in Jacksonville might be come back.
25:00
Speaker 1: Maybe Lombardi Lanny can come back. That would surprise me too.
25:03
Speaker 1: Anything's possible. No, it would surprise Bucket though it was
25:06
Speaker 1: surprise BUCKBARTI Laney running it back. That would that would
25:09
Speaker 1: be that would be a tough one. That would be
25:11
Speaker 1: a storyline. That would be a storyline for sure, Lombardi
25:14
Speaker 1: Lanny and Carlos Ais and behind James Robson. That that
25:21
Speaker 1: would be something else. Huddle Up Podcast. A couple of
25:26
Speaker 1: other quick notes around the league. The Tennessee Titans lost
25:29
Speaker 1: wide receiver Corey Davis and John new Smith the tied end,
25:32
Speaker 1: but they gained a Nico Autry and Bud Dupree on defense.
25:35
Speaker 1: This week, Drew Brees retired. In New Orleans, Jamis Winston
25:38
Speaker 1: signs a one year deal. I guess they'll compete for
25:41
Speaker 1: the starting gig or they'll just play like they have
25:44
Speaker 1: been in the past. Down there was could it could
25:47
Speaker 1: be a little bit of anything, could be Jamie has
25:48
Speaker 1: taken to couple then Tayson Rose in Spurrier in the
25:52
Speaker 1: old days changing plays at quarterback. Was that was? That was?
25:55
Speaker 1: That was that war than or that Rex Grossman and
26:00
Speaker 1: Terry's I happen to know that because I covered those
26:05
Speaker 1: two teams. Uh, you have to hit my college football wheelhouse,
26:10
Speaker 1: j B. So that's yeah, that would be a little
26:13
Speaker 1: much in New Orleans. But who knows. I invented you
26:18
Speaker 1: invented Danny. Yeah, I put him on the Class four
26:21
Speaker 1: A All State team. You're the one, You're the one
26:27
Speaker 1: that made him famous. See book Deals. So what you're
26:30
Speaker 1: talking about, Bucky like and all of a sudden is
26:33
Speaker 1: John's fault. Yeah, there you go. There you go, Jo
26:37
Speaker 1: creating the creating those guys down there, down there, Florida.
26:44
Speaker 1: Derrick Brooks too, but he went but he would never
26:46
Speaker 1: admit that. Dan Warren Sap and Javon Curse apparently too.
26:49
Speaker 1: We mentioned that at the pay phone. Yeah, that's right,
26:55
Speaker 1: that's right. Let's uh, let's get a couple of social
26:58
Speaker 1: questions in before we get out of here today. And
27:01
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Tuesday when I put the bat
27:04
Speaker 1: signal out. You know, I'm not I'm not allergic to bees,
27:08
Speaker 1: but I still don't like getting stung by bees. And
27:11
Speaker 1: I also felt like, I mean, it was, it was.
27:15
Speaker 1: It was vicious there for a little while, and then
27:17
Speaker 1: the Griffin deal apparently was reported, and every everything kind
27:21
Speaker 1: of toned down after that. So we've got a mix
27:24
Speaker 1: here today. This is from Walker Garena. What's there left
27:27
Speaker 1: in the tight end market? I'm worried about the room
27:29
Speaker 1: that Irvan said we need to reshape, and we missed
27:31
Speaker 1: on both Henry and Smith. We can't rely on draft
27:34
Speaker 1: tight ends and Oliver can't stay healthy thoughts, And I
27:37
Speaker 1: think we touched on this Bucky you you know the past,
27:42
Speaker 1: looking at the offensive coordinator and a quarterba the passing
27:45
Speaker 1: game coordinator as well. Their history with tight ends is
27:50
Speaker 1: not as robust let's say, as some others. No, it hasn't.
27:53
Speaker 1: It hasn't been great, and it it just makes it
27:55
Speaker 1: hard to say that, oh, we're gonna invest in the
27:58
Speaker 1: tight end, because I think it's a unique physition and
28:00
Speaker 1: you have to have a plan to create opportunities for
28:02
Speaker 1: the tight end to get open. That club hasn't been
28:05
Speaker 1: in the bag. It hasn't been in the bag for
28:07
Speaker 1: Bevil North Schottenheimer really, and I think I think it's tough.
28:10
Speaker 1: And so if you're not going to utilize those guys,
28:12
Speaker 1: I would hate to see a tight end well. And
28:15
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate because the middle of field is always wide open.
28:18
Speaker 1: It's the easiest throw for the young quarterback. I wondered,
28:21
Speaker 1: because right now it looks like this offense is going
28:23
Speaker 1: to be even though Urban talks about running and physicality
28:26
Speaker 1: and toughness, it still seems like all the weapons are
28:29
Speaker 1: the little guys on the perimeter. I don't know. The
28:31
Speaker 1: Trevor use is not over yet. He did not He
28:36
Speaker 1: did not use tighten much to a bunch of a
28:39
Speaker 1: bunch of a bunch of a bunch of bunch of
28:42
Speaker 1: little fast guys out there running around r p os
28:44
Speaker 1: but I mean it's I mean, it's seen a division though, right,
28:48
Speaker 1: guys will knock you off. The Colts and the Tennessee Titans,
28:51
Speaker 1: they play rocking sock and robot football, so we can
28:54
Speaker 1: go out there. I just don't want to go out
28:55
Speaker 1: there being too finess. I don't think coach Meyer Wild
28:59
Speaker 1: Tyler Finesse. I just don't want to be a little
29:01
Speaker 1: fin this team tight end coach from Penn State tight
29:05
Speaker 1: end from Penn State. Later, Okay, yeah, I'm just saying.
29:11
Speaker 1: I'm just feel like you feel like he's in the
29:13
Speaker 1: office every day, Like, hey, coach, I know when you're
29:16
Speaker 1: tight in. I've seen one. As we talked about, they're
29:20
Speaker 1: not going to get pits. But as we talked about yesterday,
29:23
Speaker 1: but that second tier tight end second tears. But that's
29:28
Speaker 1: what it sort of feels like. The direction and JP,
29:31
Speaker 1: your boy, Josh Oliver, don't sleep on it. Right. He
29:34
Speaker 1: just hasn't been healthy. He hasn't been healthy enough. Yeah,
29:36
Speaker 1: that's the issue with him. Our next question from No
29:39
Speaker 1: Toes down, how's the backup defensive tackle? Had seven tackles
29:43
Speaker 1: last season and a return specialist in a league with
29:46
Speaker 1: less return opportunities than ever each receiving seven million dollars.
29:52
Speaker 1: I mean, you got you gotta dig deep and you
29:54
Speaker 1: gotta figure out how much is real and how much
29:56
Speaker 1: it's kind of that that monopoly money that's out there
29:59
Speaker 1: you got. I mean you have to dig down. But hey,
30:02
Speaker 1: the cap is flat for some, but the TV deal
30:05
Speaker 1: is coming and so you have to pay with minimum
30:08
Speaker 1: salaries and all this other stuff. Depending on how you
30:11
Speaker 1: view them and view their impact, you do what you
30:13
Speaker 1: want to win. You want to win the negotiation too,
30:16
Speaker 1: because maybe there's another team that's out there, so maybe
30:19
Speaker 1: it jacks it up a little bit. You gotta make
30:21
Speaker 1: sure you're secure to guy value, right. John Trent certainly
30:25
Speaker 1: gave us plenty of hints that this was going to
30:28
Speaker 1: be the approach when he spoke at his availabilities. I mean,
30:31
Speaker 1: he talked about value value value, and he said we're
30:34
Speaker 1: going to spend the cap over a three year period.
30:37
Speaker 1: So was that a hint. I don't know, because we
30:41
Speaker 1: don't really know. It's hard to know how Urban and
30:44
Speaker 1: Trent will approach roster building. It'll be easier next year
30:47
Speaker 1: because now we'll have an off season to sort of
30:49
Speaker 1: study it. We'll see the actions, will see the results. Clearly,
30:52
Speaker 1: like I said, he used a better analogy. They clearly
30:54
Speaker 1: looked at this roster and said, we've got to spend
30:56
Speaker 1: some money getting back to a certain level where we
31:00
Speaker 1: can compete. I don't think they wanted to be in
31:03
Speaker 1: a situation the analogy I always used JP as a Sanders.
31:06
Speaker 1: A Sanders was a fourth round receiver in two thousand
31:09
Speaker 1: thirteen who caught fifty three passes. Well, he was never
31:15
Speaker 1: going to be a big time NFL receiver. He had
31:17
Speaker 1: to play really quickly. A Sanders had a lot of stats.
31:21
Speaker 1: But you didn't want a Sanders starting as a rookie.
31:23
Speaker 1: When you were starting a standards as a rookie, you
31:26
Speaker 1: were in trouble with that spot. I loved me wrong,
31:30
Speaker 1: I love him great, but that's not what you were
31:32
Speaker 1: looking for. They clearly this bunch did not want to
31:35
Speaker 1: be throwing unready rookies into the fire early for people
31:41
Speaker 1: who wanted Trevor Lawrence. And you know, I think there's
31:44
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance he'll be the quarterback here next year, Bucky.
31:46
Speaker 1: What you didn't want, I don't think they wanted was
31:49
Speaker 1: a lot of rookies, only rookies around Trevor. This young,
31:53
Speaker 1: inexperienced team and not give him a chance to develop
31:56
Speaker 1: as a rookie. So they're bringing in some veterans trying
31:58
Speaker 1: to make sure that it's not is Trevor and a
32:00
Speaker 1: bunch of kids. So it feels like that's their approach
32:03
Speaker 1: is given this once in a lifetime player a chance
32:07
Speaker 1: he has something to work with where it's not a
32:09
Speaker 1: college team now. So that's that's kind of what it
32:11
Speaker 1: feels like. So if you want Trevor, maybe this is
32:13
Speaker 1: the price to pay together. How about that? Yeah, I
32:15
Speaker 1: think there's something to that. I think if you go
32:17
Speaker 1: back and you look at Josh Allen's success once Stefan
32:20
Speaker 1: Dix came over, the older receiver that's dependable and trustworthy,
32:23
Speaker 1: he's always going to be at the spot that the
32:26
Speaker 1: coaches are telling the quarterback where he should be. And
32:30
Speaker 1: so that that makes a lot of sense when you
32:32
Speaker 1: bring in young guys. You have a young quarterback, young
32:33
Speaker 1: pass catches, can you get them on the same page.
32:36
Speaker 1: That's why typically when you see the young quarterback take
32:40
Speaker 1: a dramatic leap is because he's surrounded by veteran guys
32:43
Speaker 1: that he can trust. Justin Herbert being able to be
32:45
Speaker 1: an offensive rickety year. Well, you have Keenan Allen and
32:47
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, guys who played a little while in the league,
32:49
Speaker 1: so you can you can make it happen. And I
32:51
Speaker 1: think it is something that we'll have to monitor. The
32:55
Speaker 1: other thing will monitor and this will be a conversation
32:57
Speaker 1: for next year. How many of these guys that are
33:00
Speaker 1: coming in as stop gaps remain with the team longer
33:04
Speaker 1: than a year or so. So it'll be interesting when
33:07
Speaker 1: the language comes out on all of these deals, how
33:11
Speaker 1: many of these deals and how much of the money
33:13
Speaker 1: is real compared to inflated money that we know the
33:16
Speaker 1: player never see final question here and we'll combine two
33:19
Speaker 1: questions to get us out of here, but I think
33:21
Speaker 1: they kind of go hand in hand, at least in
33:24
Speaker 1: my opinion. One from at B Smith or any theme
33:27
Speaker 1: to the free agent signing so far a connection with
33:30
Speaker 1: the coaches scheme or age. And the other question is
33:34
Speaker 1: from at come fly with Black? Should we bring in
33:37
Speaker 1: another veteran who's great for the locker room? And for me,
33:40
Speaker 1: I think those kind of can go hand in hand
33:42
Speaker 1: because we've seen different connections with different coaches already. On
33:46
Speaker 1: the step Carlos hide has a connection with three different
33:49
Speaker 1: guys already, right, the GM, the head coach, in the
33:51
Speaker 1: in the passing game coordinator, they have a history with him,
33:54
Speaker 1: just to name a few. Um some other situation bevels
33:57
Speaker 1: brought in the receiver from the Lions. You know, there's
34:02
Speaker 1: a lot of that. I'm curious about the locker room
34:04
Speaker 1: part though, right because we don't really know what this
34:07
Speaker 1: locker room is yet, and they need some older guys.
34:12
Speaker 1: I'm sure Urban would love to have guys who have
34:14
Speaker 1: been through his you know, who've read the book basically right,
34:18
Speaker 1: and and can distribute that idea, that philosophy to the
34:22
Speaker 1: locker room where those meats, I think is where we're
34:25
Speaker 1: starting to figure out and see in the last day
34:27
Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, I think it's interesting, But I think
34:29
Speaker 1: Urban let the cat out of the bag. It might
34:31
Speaker 1: have been in your conversation, either Ja or what one
34:35
Speaker 1: of the conversations he talked about how it's important for
34:37
Speaker 1: the position guys to know the guys that they're bringing
34:40
Speaker 1: into the room. He talked about that and that's more
34:43
Speaker 1: of a collegiate approach more so than an NFL approach.
34:46
Speaker 1: But when you listen to that and then you look
34:48
Speaker 1: at how free agency played out, it played out just
34:51
Speaker 1: like that. A lot of position coaching coaches grabbing guys
34:55
Speaker 1: that they know, grabbing guys that they believe fit into
34:59
Speaker 1: the fabric and the new culture that's going to exist
35:01
Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville. That happens now. The trick will be
35:06
Speaker 1: when you bring these older players in, if you want
35:08
Speaker 1: them to lead the younger guys, they better be able
35:10
Speaker 1: to play. Because it's one thing to hear the old
35:12
Speaker 1: head up their lecturing and talking and preaching, but if
35:16
Speaker 1: he can't play, then it falls on deaf ears. And
35:18
Speaker 1: so these guys that come in very early in many
35:22
Speaker 1: camp or o t s, you need to be able
35:25
Speaker 1: to see their talent flash so they can get the
35:27
Speaker 1: respect of the young guys. If they don't, then it's
35:31
Speaker 1: it's just another just anohing. You saw the couple you
35:34
Speaker 1: saw a few years ago. We don't want to go back,
35:36
Speaker 1: but we saw it a few years ago seventeen. It
35:39
Speaker 1: was great. Saxonville, Jaden Ramsey and those guys. They're tough on.
35:43
Speaker 1: They were tough on those those older players, Like I mean,
35:46
Speaker 1: I hear you, but when I look at the stat sheet,
35:50
Speaker 1: it's different. Yeah, that was we're looking ahead of that.
35:53
Speaker 1: Can we're moving forward on the past, John, I have
35:59
Speaker 1: nothing bad on that front because Bucky said it best.
36:01
Speaker 1: That's fair enough. Okay, they have it. Thanks for the
36:04
Speaker 1: social media questions and plenty of comments today too. There's
36:08
Speaker 1: a little lot going on around Jaguars Twitter the last
36:11
Speaker 1: couple of days. Hopefully things will continue to move in
36:15
Speaker 1: the right direction. A lot of new names reported to
36:18
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, so stay tuned to a Jags social media
36:21
Speaker 1: four o'clock. Free agency opens Wednesday. That's when the team
36:25
Speaker 1: can officially started bouncing deals and we can officially start
36:29
Speaker 1: well talking about them. Officially the official word is the
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Speaker 1: key word there. Of course, it feels like a lot
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Speaker 1: of it's already done, but it's all still reported and
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Speaker 1: it's the negotiation window. Bucky, what do you have on
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Speaker 1: the network coming up? I'm sure yeah, free agency, we
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Speaker 1: have Pro days, We have all kinds of a little
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Speaker 1: fun stuff um coming up. I think I have George's
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Speaker 1: Pro Day to marrow, so we get a chance to
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Speaker 1: see a couple of playmakers kind of come through, and
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Speaker 1: I think we have some more pro days coming out.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to coverage but tomorrow
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Speaker 1: I got George's pro day. How what has been the
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Speaker 1: best performance of the last week on a pro day
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Speaker 1: you've been on, Well, it has to be the quarterback
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Speaker 1: trade Lands. I think Trey Lands just kind of opening
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Speaker 1: up and showing people the athleticism and the talent. He
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Speaker 1: misses throws and he does those things. But I think
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Speaker 1: when you look at him and you see him, you say, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's that's what a quarterback should look like. I think
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Speaker 1: the one that everyone is excited about. Had a chance
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Speaker 1: to talk to John Beck, who is training ironically Zack
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Speaker 1: Wilson and Justin Fields at the same time at the
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Speaker 1: same place. Good insight on both of those quarterbacks. Talked
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Speaker 1: about both of them being very, very competitive. I talked
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Speaker 1: about Zack Wilson's competitiveness in terms of just wanted to
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Speaker 1: be better. They've worked thegether for about three years and
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Speaker 1: those things, trying to live up to the b y
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Speaker 1: U quarterback tradition, which is a big deal. And then
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Speaker 1: he just talked about Justin Fields and the competitiveness and
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Speaker 1: how professional he has been early in the last one
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Speaker 1: out baseball background being big he didn't necessarily know, and
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Speaker 1: so good good on both of them. Doesn't mean a
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Speaker 1: lot for us because we're off that we're not shopping.
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Speaker 1: We're not shopping on those racks, but it'd be nice
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Speaker 1: for others in the league. It'll be great for the Jets.
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Speaker 1: They'll enjoy that conversation. Yeah, Johnny, Oh what do you
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Speaker 1: have coming up? Well? Uh, as you know, Jp, everything
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Speaker 1: that we're doing will be contingent on then getting these
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Speaker 1: guys signed. And I anticipate Thursday and Friday a lot
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Speaker 1: of a lot of free agents talk to the guys.
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Speaker 1: I am looking forward. Oh, admit I was soft spotting
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Speaker 1: my heart for Tyson. I look forward to talking to
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Speaker 1: him again. I miss him. He's one of my favorite
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Speaker 1: Jaguars players ever, so for me at the home run
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Speaker 1: and I was forward to, uh talking to Tyson Ala well.
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Speaker 1: Obviously have coverage of all the guys up on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot com. So it was good. Busy week ahead. Bucky
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Speaker 1: will talk to you again next week, sure, Bucky Brooks
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