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  Speaker 1: I saw Caleb and Jayshunt as having taken a big
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  Speaker 1: step forward. I thought he was much more impactful than
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  Speaker 1: he was last year. Welcome the Jaguars Reporters presented by
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  Speaker 1: t I A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Osher,
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  Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan and J P. Shagran j Presended by t
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  Speaker 1: I A A Bank. Starts right now. Welcome in to
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters. Today is Thursday, September sixteenth, JP Shadrick, John
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  Speaker 1: Osier and Brian sex Cello. Hello, Ashton Sullivan will be
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  Speaker 1: back with us another time and the Jaguars host the
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  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos this Sunday. In Week two, the game presented
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  Speaker 1: by t I A Bank turn potential into progress. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars need some progress and a lot of different
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  Speaker 1: ways going from week one to week to John certainly
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  Speaker 1: I will start on the offensive side. We've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it all week on these shows. You can't hurt yourself,
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  Speaker 1: you can't get behind the stick with holding. Penalties are
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  Speaker 1: one thing, but when it's substitution and lining up wrong
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  Speaker 1: and then and Herbant Mayer has been harping on that
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  Speaker 1: all week. I'm tired of saying it. I'm sure the
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  Speaker 1: fans are tired of hearing about it. I know the
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  Speaker 1: players must be tired of hearing about it because that's
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  Speaker 1: all they've heard. And you know, I can't imagine that
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been point one, two and three when the coaches
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  Speaker 1: talked to him. So you know, four pre snap four
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  Speaker 1: holds seven got declined, but the result was also two
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  Speaker 1: time outs. I I don't know how good the team
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  Speaker 1: is yet because we haven't seen him be able to function.
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  Speaker 1: So don't do that again. I'm not trying to be
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  Speaker 1: snyed about it, but this is basic football stuff. Get
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  Speaker 1: lined up, get to second and six, and then see
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  Speaker 1: how the quarterback does. I'll bet if he's in second
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  Speaker 1: six all day, you don't see three picks. You know
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  Speaker 1: what what's on Saturday afternoon this this week Oklahoma versus
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  Speaker 1: Near right, it is the classic run the ball, stop
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  Speaker 1: the run series. Um So, in the spirit of that,
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  Speaker 1: I say, don't throw the ball at all, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: using absurdity made my point. If you want to be
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  Speaker 1: able to function at a higher level, you have to
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  Speaker 1: start with the running game. You talk about beating it
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  Speaker 1: into the ground. I mean, I've been talking about the
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  Speaker 1: running games, so much people like you know they have.
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  Speaker 1: The quarterback was number one overall, but it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: if he's back there throwing the ball fifty one times
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  Speaker 1: a game. This Denver defense is built to play the past.
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  Speaker 1: Von Miller, Bradley Chubb upfront, screaming off the edge with
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Sir Tan the top twenty pick Pop, top ten
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  Speaker 1: pick um and uh Justin Simmons and Kyle Fuller. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're asking the kid to play to their strength instead
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  Speaker 1: of playing to the Jaguars strength. Run the ball. I
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  Speaker 1: love those old local Holmea, Nebraska games. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: run the witch bone, but please run it and run
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  Speaker 1: it and run it and don't worry about punting, and
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  Speaker 1: then run it and run it and run it some more. Eventually,
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  Speaker 1: this team with this quarterback will be a throw it
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  Speaker 1: all over the yard team. But they're not there yet.
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  Speaker 1: We started signing in trouble. I'd love it around here, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and talking to a j Can this week
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  Speaker 1: in an interview that will air actually on social media
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  Speaker 1: coming up here in a little bit and on the
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  Speaker 1: Public Tailgate show on Sunday, they know it too. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they know what the strength of this offense should
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  Speaker 1: be to help out against that pass rush. It's to
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  Speaker 1: run the football. That's what an offensive line. At least
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  Speaker 1: this group feels like they are best at They were
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  Speaker 1: good at it last year, and everybody knew they were
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  Speaker 1: going to run, and they feel like they can do
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  Speaker 1: that if they just eliminate some of the pre snap stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were that thirteen yard run that was
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  Speaker 1: called back with Brandon Lender's holding penalty. I saw that
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  Speaker 1: and went, Okay, they are going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: run the ball today. Not because of thirteen yards, but
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  Speaker 1: because of the blocks the way that they had it
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  Speaker 1: set up. I thought, just keep running the ball. This
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  Speaker 1: is gonna go great, and they wanted to do, but
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  Speaker 1: they get in situation. Yeah, but after the two holding
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  Speaker 1: penalties on that first drive, they just stopped running right
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  Speaker 1: and then of course they got behind. Well, but they
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  Speaker 1: weren't that behind in the first quarter. They weren't so
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  Speaker 1: far behind, you know, but until the end of the
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  Speaker 1: first half that they had to completely abandon the run.
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  Speaker 1: What they run the ball four or five times in
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  Speaker 1: the first half, you gotta do more than that. Now,
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  Speaker 1: to Trevor's point, a couple of those throws earlier screens.
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  Speaker 1: So that's almost like an extension of the run. It's
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  Speaker 1: not I get it, but you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they wanted to get away from it because I did
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. Ever, did I flew back on on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night thing, why didn't they run? And then when
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  Speaker 1: I rewatched the game that night into the second quarter,
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  Speaker 1: they did have a drive. I think they ran Street
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  Speaker 1: three straight times. They were trying to get to it,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the game got away
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  Speaker 1: from him. So I definitely think they're going to try
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  Speaker 1: to run. But if they get down seventeen seven, and
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  Speaker 1: if they've if they've already had seven penalties at that point,
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  Speaker 1: then the stats are gonn the saying, and then so
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  Speaker 1: keep running. With all those throws, fifty one of them,
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  Speaker 1: we've counted them all week long. Twelve targets were to
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  Speaker 1: DJ Chark. He had three catches in the game, and
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  Speaker 1: you know some of those were just kind of mis throws, misfires.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of drops were in there too, A lot
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  Speaker 1: of that. Just listening to the mannings, your your guys,
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  Speaker 1: John are one of your guys on Monday Night talk
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  Speaker 1: through It. Peyton said that during training camp. I want
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  Speaker 1: my receivers on the field. That's the time we get
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  Speaker 1: in the lab and do it. And DJ just wasn't
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  Speaker 1: available a lot of training camp. But I think that
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  Speaker 1: might have been a little bit. Maybe it's not all
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  Speaker 1: his fault because of the things that happened in the game,
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  Speaker 1: but it just didn't feel right last week. Well, he's
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  Speaker 1: the natural guy for twelve targets, because you heard Urban
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  Speaker 1: Meyer before the Houston Games say, I I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of a team that doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: any speed. He's the legitimate speed they have on the field,
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  Speaker 1: So trying to uncork that makes a lot of sense. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I Marvin Jones had plenty of targets. Uh. Lavisca is
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  Speaker 1: working through his role. But this thing is it's I
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  Speaker 1: know one of the other storylines was, well, why did
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  Speaker 1: you take somebody snaps away from Gardner Minshew or from
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  Speaker 1: this kid and give him to Gardner Minshew. I think
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  Speaker 1: all of that plays out. They just need more time
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  Speaker 1: on task and you're limited to how much you can
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  Speaker 1: work during the week. Yeah, it's Uh. I expect him
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  Speaker 1: to keep feeding Shark because I still think he's their
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  Speaker 1: best receiver. Uh. And when you have fitty one passes,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of targets going around. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that they solve their speed
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  Speaker 1: issue this year. I don't know where you find speed
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  Speaker 1: if it's not really on the team. Uh So again,
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  Speaker 1: part of what we talked about at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the show, the errors include drops in that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit this week about when plays
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  Speaker 1: are there to be made defensively offensively. Drops are a
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  Speaker 1: big part of that. Stop doing things that hurt yourself
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  Speaker 1: and give yourself a chance to be in the football game.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't do that at all week one. Now, having
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  Speaker 1: said that, after the game, Urban said everyone needs to relax.
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  Speaker 1: He will not relax. Calm down. I thought he had
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  Speaker 1: it right the first time. Everyone just relax a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: If he comes back here and I don't know whether
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  Speaker 1: he will or won't or did or didn't and just
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  Speaker 1: hammers his team, which we've all seen that a new
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  Speaker 1: any good. This is still a work in progress. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to take time, not desperation. Come back, guys,
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  Speaker 1: none of us have ever seen a quarter that bad.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not have it again and then just do what
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  Speaker 1: you do. But if you institute or install panic this
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  Speaker 1: week by ramping up drills or changing something dramatic, then
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  Speaker 1: you're telling your team, oh, we're not very good. Just
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  Speaker 1: go do what you do again and keep doing it
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  Speaker 1: and doing it and doing it over and over. Panic
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  Speaker 1: or calling nine O four six three three two thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Not at the Jaguars defense. And last week this group
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  Speaker 1: gave up six plays of twenty and more yards. Tyrod
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  Speaker 1: Taylor got out of a few different sacks. They couldn't
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  Speaker 1: keep him contain. That was a storyline going in. This
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  Speaker 1: one has a different feel. With Teddy Bridgewater back there,
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  Speaker 1: He's not going to be as mobile as Tyrod you know,
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  Speaker 1: could be. That's just not the way they he plays anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe in the early days before he heard his knee,
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  Speaker 1: but not quite that. They can run the football, They've
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  Speaker 1: got a tight end, they've got some receivers, but they're
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  Speaker 1: they're Jerry Judy's out. That's a big loss for them.
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  Speaker 1: But it just doesn't feel like this offense. John is
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  Speaker 1: going to be super flashy with bells and whistles everywhere
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  Speaker 1: in Denver. That's not what Vic Fangio wants and manage
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  Speaker 1: it and let Bridgewater distribute. But he's got some talent around.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, even without Judy, there are guys on this
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  Speaker 1: offense who can make plays. I I guess I still
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  Speaker 1: go back to what we talked about Offensively. Defensively, Cavan
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  Speaker 1: Chason has a chance to get two sacks last week, didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I should go Griffin had chance to make an interception, didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Wishn Jenkins had a chance to get interception. Didn't. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's too many didn't. When urban Meyer talks about very
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  Speaker 1: little margin for error, those are the things he means.
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  Speaker 1: We've all been around the NFL long enough to know
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  Speaker 1: there's only a handful of plays a game that defensive
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  Speaker 1: players get a chance to make. When you leave them
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  Speaker 1: all on the field, you you almost, by definition, when
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  Speaker 1: that happens, give the opponent a first down. Well, if
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  Speaker 1: you give away four first downs, you're extending four drives.
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  Speaker 1: If that happens once a quarter, that flips the quarter.
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  Speaker 1: These games are too close to not take advantage of
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  Speaker 1: those plays When the plays are there to be made.
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  Speaker 1: This team has to make him. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: that's because the players aren't good enough. Well, let me inject,
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  Speaker 1: they just have to make them. Yeah, little bit of
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  Speaker 1: optimism here, I see. I saw Caleb and Jason as
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  Speaker 1: having taken a big step forward. I thought he was
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  Speaker 1: much more impactful than he was last year. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: he was coming on strong when last season ended. I
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  Speaker 1: think the scheme fits him. I think Joe Colin from
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  Speaker 1: his time in Baltimore was exactly how to use him.
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  Speaker 1: And no, he was at the point of attack and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't make the play and Tyrod Taylor made him
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  Speaker 1: look foolish. It spun around a couple of times. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, if he can do that, if he could
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  Speaker 1: just get into the backfield and create enough havoc, offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinators an offensive lineman are gonna have to account for him,
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  Speaker 1: which means that Josh Allen is going to have another
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  Speaker 1: opportunity one on one eventually. I like what I saw
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  Speaker 1: from Caleb and Jason. I want to see Cisco in
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  Speaker 1: the lineup because he was a ball hawk. And I
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  Speaker 1: go back to the fifty two yard play where Jason
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  Speaker 1: got spun around. I think if Cisco is on the field,
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  Speaker 1: he makes a play on the ball, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: he did at Syracuse. He had thirteen takeaways in two
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  Speaker 1: years as a starter. Think about that. That's an epic number.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen takeaways in two years as a starter. Um, I've
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  Speaker 1: got some players, and I think the defensive side in
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  Speaker 1: in particular, we will see more progress more quickly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all this new and bells and whistles and
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  Speaker 1: blizzes and pressures and packages. It's a lot of coming
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  Speaker 1: and going and you just got the same thing time
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  Speaker 1: on task where you're out there doing it than the
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  Speaker 1: easier and better I think it will look in time.
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  Speaker 1: They were better against the run than the numbers said.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you're throwing the ball fifty one times,
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  Speaker 1: it means the other team is leading so much. All
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  Speaker 1: they're doing is running. You're throwing their running. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how how long are you gonna hold up when it's
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  Speaker 1: just two tight ends and pound the ball? They had
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  Speaker 1: three tight ends. Houston kept three tight ends, just pound
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  Speaker 1: and pound a pound and then eventually the quarterback gets
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  Speaker 1: loose for a long run and it makes you look horrible.
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  Speaker 1: But they held the running backs to below what three
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  Speaker 1: point five yards per carry UM. That wasn't a great group.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be tested this week with these runners. I think
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  Speaker 1: they'll be better against the run this week. Well they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to because they got tested. UM. They need
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  Speaker 1: to be as good against the run as they were
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, and then when the ball is in the air,
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  Speaker 1: they need to make the play on it. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: More than anything. They need to be good against the
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  Speaker 1: run because they need to be able to get Josh, Allen,
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  Speaker 1: Caleb and Jason in a position to make sacks. And
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  Speaker 1: if you do that, Bridgewater can be forced into mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: It's not his m oh if you pressure him, he
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  Speaker 1: can be forced. That's that's the rub the defense. The
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  Speaker 1: secondary did not make plays on the ball, and you
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  Speaker 1: keep people are walking around it. When you listen to
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  Speaker 1: coaches talk as I talk about making plays on the
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  Speaker 1: ball in the air, Well, that's the secondary, right you
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  Speaker 1: paid Shack Griffin. He didn't make the play at the point.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think he had a great game. Ray Sean
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  Speaker 1: Jenkins made that mistake. I mean, break it up. Break
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  Speaker 1: it up, it's more important or take it away one
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  Speaker 1: or the other. Extandi rumps take it away. The secondary
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  Speaker 1: has to play better. Tyson Campbell is a guy that
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  Speaker 1: they're putting a lot of pressure on and he's that long,
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  Speaker 1: good looking athlete from Georgia. Someone's got to coach him
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  Speaker 1: and how to make you play. Shack Griffin talked about
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  Speaker 1: it this week. I did like C. J. Henderson. He
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  Speaker 1: made a couple of plays that maybe that's why they
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  Speaker 1: drafted the night to overall. More him, please, more of him,
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  Speaker 1: got to be consistent. All right. That'll do it for
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters today. Looking forward to the Broncos Jaguars game
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