Latest / Chef's PSA Podcast / How to be the Most Useful and Loved Person in the Kitchen | Chef's PSA Podcast Ep. 129
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- 0:00Hello chefs, this is Chefs KSA Podcast.
- 0:02I'm your host Andre Natera. On today's episode, we're going
- 0:05to talk about how to be useful in the kitchen and how to make
- 0:08sure everyone on your team likes you.
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- 1:26implementing some of the things that we're going to talk about.
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- 2:31What sparked the idea for this episode?
- 2:34The most recent episode I just put up with Chef Harold Villa
- 2:37Rosa. He started talking about when he
- 2:40was working at Per SE, he would go in and he'd fill up the salt
- 2:43containers, get delis for everyone, fill the pepper mills,
- 2:47get the towels, etcetera. Something that I used to do in
- 2:50kitchens as well as something that I would encourage my team
- 2:52members to do. I started having an Instagram
- 2:56conversation with Shut Bill Roll and we got into this long
- 2:59conversation about how important it is to do these things and how
- 3:02a lot of people don't do that if it's something that I do and
- 3:04it's something that I recommend people do in the kitchen.
- 3:07So if you want to start to see improvements in the efficiency
- 3:11of your kitchen, you want your likeability score to go up, you
- 3:15want to be useful, Here's some easy things that everyone can
- 3:19do, Everyone. This has nothing to do with your
- 3:22culinary skill level, but has everything to do with your
- 3:26willingness to be a team member, be proactive, have a little bit
- 3:30of hustle and common sense in the kitchen.
- 3:32If you want to have a better kitchen culture, then why don't
- 3:36you start making the changes that you want to see in the
- 3:37kitchen? A lot of people complain and say
- 3:39no, my kitchen culture is not good and they rely on everyone
- 3:43else to fix it. Well, you could start making
- 3:45those changes today. So here's some things that you
- 3:47could do. And by the way, being useful in
- 3:50the kitchen goes a long way. You might not be the best skill,
- 3:53but if you're useful and you bring value, even if you don't
- 3:56have the skills yet to bring value, it's going to open up so
- 4:00many doors for you later. I've talked about this before,
- 4:03that sometimes when people like you, they turn the other way and
- 4:07overlook some of your shortcomings.
- 4:08So if you're not ready yet to be the best cook in the kitchen,
- 4:12sometimes doing these things can make the team start to really
- 4:15like you, on top of being useful and being more efficient and
- 4:20building camaraderie and teamwork.
- 4:23The best part about this is it starts to become infectious on
- 4:26your team. When one person starts doing it,
- 4:29other people start doing it, and they start to see how
- 4:32reciprocity works in action. I'm hoping by the end of this
- 4:36episode you'll figure out ways to be more useful.
- 4:38I'm using this also as a social experiment.
- 4:40So if you do some of these things in your kitchen, I want
- 4:43to know about it. I want to see if you started
- 4:45doing it, how the team reacted to it.
- 4:48And if you're an executive chef or you're leading a kitchen,
- 4:51maybe you start tasking one person in the kitchen daily to
- 4:55start doing this. It could be rotating.
- 4:56Mondays it's this person, Tuesdays it's a different
- 4:59person, and so on. You get the point.
- 5:01Why is it important to be useful?
- 5:03Well, it boosts morale. Learning how to work with a team
- 5:06is one of the most important things that you do in a kitchen
- 5:08because it is a team. Yes, you have your individual
- 5:11station, but you're working with multiple cooks and sous chefs,
- 5:15dishwashers, porters. It's all interconnected and if
- 5:18you learn how to work together, you become exponentially more
- 5:22efficient. Why else?
- 5:23Being proactive gets you noticed.
- 5:26It gives you opportunities for mentorship.
- 5:28The person who's proactive most likely is getting noticed by the
- 5:31person who's making the promotion decisions.
- 5:34Take this example. You have two people that are
- 5:36both interested in becoming the chef departee or the sous chef
- 5:39in the kitchen. Culinary skills being equal, 1
- 5:42is more useful, likable, and proactive.
- 5:46The other one is not. Who gets the promotion.
- 5:49All things being equal, the person that's more useful and
- 5:51proactive. Thus, like, it's not a big
- 5:53secret, it's just common sense. You like someone more, they're
- 5:57getting the job. It's not always based on who's
- 6:00been there the longest or I've been here for five years, they
- 6:03just started. Well, maybe, but they have a
- 6:05better attitude. They're more useful to the team,
- 6:07they're more proactive, they get the job.
- 6:10That's the reality of the situation.
- 6:13There's also the factor of respect and likability.
- 6:16Your team will start to respect you.
- 6:17They'll start to appreciate you. And honestly, who doesn't want
- 6:20to be appreciated more, right? I honestly don't think we
- 6:23appreciate chefs enough or cooks, right?
- 6:26So anyway, I don't know what we're talking.
- 6:28We digress. You want more appreciation in
- 6:30the kitchen. Do things to get you appreciated
- 6:33more. So let's talk about what some of
- 6:35those things are. Let's say you're an efficient
- 6:38cook. I'm assuming if you work in a
- 6:40kitchen, everyone needs salt on their station.
- 6:43Everyone needs pepper most likely.
- 6:46Everyone is probably cooking so they need some sort of oil.
- 6:49Depending on the type of kitchen you are, you might have a bunch
- 6:51of deli containers or quark containers floating around to
- 6:54keep your mesum plots in. Or you have 9th pans and hotel
- 6:57pans and things like that when you get there and you awry when
- 7:02you pull out that box of Diamond Crystal or Morton's kosher salt
- 7:06till everyone's container. All right, Don't just fill
- 7:08yours. It's very easy to pull out 10
- 7:11deli containers who fill up 10 containers of salt and just hand
- 7:15them out to everybody. It's easy enough to grind pepper
- 7:18for everybody in the spice briner or tell everyone I'm
- 7:22going to fill pepper mills. Give me your pepper mill and
- 7:25just take them to the back and fill everyone up with
- 7:27peppercorns. Very easy.
- 7:29If you're going to fill one oil bottle, it's only a few seconds
- 7:32extra to fill 5 oil bottles, wipe them down, give everyone
- 7:37their oil. If you're going to go to the
- 7:38dish station and pick up a bunch of containers, bring containers
- 7:42for everybody. You need your delis, They need
- 7:45their delis. It's more efficient to have one
- 7:47person go and bring delis for the entire team, Then all five
- 7:51people go and bring back delis where it's waste of time, it's
- 7:53wasted space, it's wasted steps in the kitchens.
- 7:56You have to be practical and efficient in your movements.
- 7:59So in a lot of places, the Komi, first thing that they do, if
- 8:03you're doing the job, a lot of places, first thing they'll do
- 8:06is they'll tell you, OK, you're going to come in a few minutes
- 8:08early. By the way, I'm not saying
- 8:10people coming off the clock, so I don't even want to get into
- 8:12that conversation. Let's assume everything we're
- 8:14talking about is paid. You come in, the first thing you
- 8:17do is you grab salt for everyone, grab pepper.
- 8:20You fill everyone's boiled bottles.
- 8:22You bring sanitation buckets for everybody.
- 8:24You fold the big bag of towels that just came in.
- 8:27You distribute towels to everybody.
- 8:29You bring deli containers, you turn on the ovens.
- 8:33Maybe you're a place where you have boiling water that you need
- 8:36set up. You get the water on, you season
- 8:38it and make sure it's salted. How do you know if the water is
- 8:41salted enough? You taste it right?
- 8:42So I don't know why people don't know that you got to taste your
- 8:45water. If you're going to cook that,
- 8:46you should taste it right? So anyway, you get everything
- 8:49set up for everyone. And those little gestures.
- 8:51Now imagine you're a cook coming in a few minutes later.
- 8:54Your salt is there, your pepper's full, your sanitation
- 8:57buckets are already there, your towels are folded.
- 8:59It's just a good feeling. Those are just little steps that
- 9:03take everyone 10 or 15 minutes, and that's 10 or 15 minutes for
- 9:07everybody, but it's also maybe 25 minutes for one person,
- 9:11depending on how fast you work and how big your kitchen is.
- 9:14Make plate wipes for everyone. You have some downtime, make
- 9:17some plate wipes. Everyone makes plate wipes
- 9:19differently. Maybe you're using linen likes
- 9:22or Torque or chick towels, whatever.
- 9:24Maybe you're cutting up sponges. Maybe you're using just regular
- 9:27towels, maybe you're just using NAFTA.
- 9:30It doesn't matter. Just have plate wipes.
- 9:32Ray, are you soaking in a vodka? Are you soaking them in a
- 9:35vinegar solution? Whatever.
- 9:37But if you know what the standard is where you work, make
- 9:40plate wipes. Make plate wipes for everybody.
- 9:42When you're prepping, there's certain items on prep that
- 9:45everyone uses. Let's say you're cutting chives
- 9:48and everybody uses chives on their station, then cut chives
- 9:51for everybody, right? There's no sense in 10 people
- 9:54cutting chives. One person can say, hey, I'm
- 9:57going to cut chives for everyone.
- 9:58Hopefully your chives are the best one because then everyone's
- 10:00going to have trash chives on their station when there's
- 10:03downtime. Wipe the line, keep a damp
- 10:05towel, wipe the piano. There's a little bit of time to
- 10:08get the broom. The broom doesn't know who used
- 10:11it. Someone said that to me the day
- 10:13I said I'm stealing that. So the broom doesn't know who
- 10:15used it. Get the broom, sweep up, you're
- 10:18caught up. Ask people if they need help.
- 10:20It goes a long way. Like that's something that I, it
- 10:23drives me nuts in kitchens, one person is all set on their
- 10:25station and they're just standing there with their extra
- 10:28time looking at their phone. Meanwhile, 2 cooks down.
- 10:31That person's in the shit and they need help, but they're
- 10:34afraid to ask and you know they need help.
- 10:36All you have to do is say, hey, can I help you with something,
- 10:39right? Be useful.
- 10:40Time to clean up. It's time to break down.
- 10:43You're finished. First help your partner and see
- 10:46if they need a little help, right?
- 10:48Maybe while they're scrubbing you could wipe down with a
- 10:50towel. Maybe they just need you to take
- 10:52something to the walk in. Be useful if you're taking
- 10:55things to the dish station, right?
- 10:57Take everyone's pants. Don't just take your bus tub
- 11:01stacked. Everything nice.
- 11:02And for the dishwasher, we move the tape from the containers
- 11:05before it goes to dish. What are some other things that
- 11:07are universally appreciated? Coffee, right?
- 11:11I put up a post on Chef's PSA the other day.
- 11:13It says it's like a riff on Mike Tyson's quote of everyone has a
- 11:16plan, so they get punched in the mouth.
- 11:18It's like every chef has a plan until they run out of coffee.
- 11:22Like bring them coffee. Kitchens are fueled off coffee
- 11:25and energy drinks. But let's just use coffee as the
- 11:28example. It's hot.
- 11:30Bring everyone some water, right?
- 11:32There used to be this guy that I would work with and he would, no
- 11:35offense, but he wasn't the greatest cook.
- 11:36He was the one that would always make the States if service was
- 11:40going down. It usually had to do with this
- 11:42one person. But after the bad service, when
- 11:46everyone was getting ready to go off on him, you would show up
- 11:49with water and coffee or a drink and he'd be like, hey, I got you
- 11:54some cold water or hey, I made this for you.
- 11:57It's like all was forgiven. So we kept him around because
- 12:00like, you know what? He always brought us something
- 12:03to drink. And we all liked him.
- 12:04Like he was the mascot of the team.
- 12:06Everyone loved this guy. But who doesn't appreciate cold
- 12:08water during a busy service, right?
- 12:10If you're a server and you're listening to this, bring the
- 12:13Cook's water, right? Cold water, universally
- 12:16appreciated. Coffee, most likely also
- 12:19universally appreciated. You're stopping at the gas
- 12:21station. Maybe you want to be nice and
- 12:24buy your whole team an energy drink.
- 12:25I don't know. Then there's also people on your
- 12:28team that really like doing things.
- 12:30Like I worked with this one guy. He had the crispiest aprons.
- 12:33He would take them all, We'd wash them, he'd iron them, he'd
- 12:36roll them really neat. And his aprons were always
- 12:38looking better than everyone else's aprons.
- 12:41And he had a thing for washing aprons.
- 12:42So we just said, hey, why don't you wash everyone's aprons once
- 12:46a week? We'll all pitch in for your
- 12:47laundry soap. And so everyone would give this
- 12:50guy 5 bucks and he would do everyone's aprons and they'd all
- 12:54come in nice and hung up on a, on a hanger, starched up,
- 12:58looking crisp. And it's like he liked to do
- 13:01that. Anyway, he made a little money
- 13:03on the side, right? So he made, I don't know, an
- 13:05extra 50 bucks a week, but everyone always had a nice clean
- 13:09apron. There was another guy that
- 13:10really enjoyed sharpening knives.
- 13:12He was the best knife sharpener in the kitchen.
- 13:14So everyone would give them their knives.
- 13:16He would take them home and sharpen them and again, everyone
- 13:18knew like hey, give that guy your knives.
- 13:20So sharpen them 5 bucks. It's only 5 bucks, but the trade
- 13:24was good because again, he's making fifty to 100 bucks a week
- 13:27extra by sharpen everyone's knives.
- 13:29Everyone is benefiting from it because they're saving time, not
- 13:33sharpening their knives because they don't have time to do it.
- 13:36Everyone's knives are sharp. The chives are more swanier to
- 13:40no brainer. You got a whole bunch of
- 13:42sharpies in your car in your kitchen drawer?
- 13:44Bring them, give them away. Just say hey I brought presents
- 13:47for everyone. I have 1000 sharpies in my
- 13:49drawer here. Everyone have at it right?
- 13:52By starting to do this, you'll start to develop an eye for
- 13:54things and attention to detail. You'll notice what these need
- 13:57organizing. You'll notice more when people
- 14:00need help. You'll also learn how to be more
- 14:03efficient overall in the kitchen and other people will take cues.
- 14:07Like I said, you're building camaraderie and your team is the
- 14:10most important thing in any kitchen.
- 14:12Soon you'll know what people need even before they ask,
- 14:14right? You'll be bringing them fresh
- 14:16towels, cold water, beautiful chives, oil bottle is filled up.
- 14:22There's a certain cadence that a chef and a sous chef have when
- 14:25they've worked together for a long time.
- 14:27I talked about this in an upcoming episode with Dan
- 14:30Kennedy where we talked about the usefulness of working with
- 14:34someone for a long time. They know exactly when to hand
- 14:36you the offset spatula or the spoon for the sauce.
- 14:40They know your next move. If you need to season something,
- 14:43they're already handing you the salt before you need it.
- 14:45When you're plating up, right, They're passing you a deli
- 14:48container, but they've already removed the lid because it's
- 14:51just one less thing that you got to do, right?
- 14:53Understanding how to work with your team and being very useful
- 14:57goes a very long way. You breathe value that way.
- 14:59Here's some bonus items. Organize the dry storage.
- 15:02Organize the walk in. Make labels for everyone.
- 15:05Sometimes if you're labeling with tape and you have some
- 15:07downtime, you just put a big strip, cut it up, sharpie out.
- 15:12Hey everyone, I'm making labels for everyone.
- 15:14Goes a long way, right? You're making labels anyway.
- 15:17What's it going to take you to do an extra 5 labels?
- 15:20And as a leader, the person that does this, I'm looking at them
- 15:23as having leadership potential. If I'm the chef and I see the
- 15:27one person does this and no one else does, I'm already
- 15:29recognizing that they are the future leader of the kitchen.
- 15:32I know that as a chef, the person who's willing to put
- 15:35others before them, that's a leader.
- 15:37You're going to have more opportunities to grow in your
- 15:39career. Your likability is going to go
- 15:42up. T morale goes up.
- 15:44It causes a ripple effect in the kitchen and everyone starts to
- 15:48benefit from it. So here's some homework.
- 15:51Do this. Start doing it even if you're
- 15:54not being told. Do this in your kitchen and see
- 15:56how it affects the rest of the team.
- 15:58See how it helps you and your day-to-day.
- 16:01See if anyone starts to take the lead with you.
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- 16:06I also want to know what I missed.
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- 16:12useful tips that you have in the kitchen.
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