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The Legacy of Former Dodger Clayton Kershaw · Sports Exchange

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  Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Sports Exchange.
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  Speaker 1: Had a great first Part of our doubleheader tonight, Motor
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  Speaker 1: City Mad Mouth was fantastic. My Force Exchange figures to
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  Speaker 1: be as good, if not better. Glad to have the
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  Speaker 1: group back here. We got John, we got Jason, we
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  Speaker 1: got Lucas, we got Cliff, and we have Andy. Rob
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  Speaker 1: Morasta will join us in a bit. Everybody ready to go?
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Let's talk about former Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: coach Mike Tomlin. And why would I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Mike? Number one, He's a heck of a coach.
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  Speaker 1: Number two, okay, when you look at his list of
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night losses, and this is really interesting, he ended
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  Speaker 1: up having a 7-2 record following Thursday night losses as well.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's just really surreal when you think
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that Mike is one of those types
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  Speaker 1: of people that after he lost a game, He would
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  Speaker 1: end up winning the next one. He would end up
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  Speaker 1: beating Green Bay following one. He would end up beating
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati after a loss. Carolina, San Francisco, Cincinnati, Tennessee, and Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 1: So you want to talk about a guy that gets
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  Speaker 1: his team back on track? Well, John, Mike Tomlin definitely
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  Speaker 1: gets it, doesn't he?
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  Speaker 3: That he does.
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  Speaker 4: He's sort of a local here, beloved in Williamsburg. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, honestly, William and Mary would kind of love
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  Speaker 4: for him to come back.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Anytime. You know, because that's where he played.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, he's got a nice picture
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  Speaker 1: job at NBC Sports. That's for sure. Not wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: He don't have wins and losses there. William and Mary
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  Speaker 1: should keep him in mind if he ever really goes
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  Speaker 1: ahead and does anything there. Okay, Jason.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Mike Tomlin, that's a good stat that
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  Speaker 5: you said 7-2. He was 9-12 in Thursday night games,
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  Speaker 5: 2-10 on the road, and 7-2 at home. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: his contract that he signed with NBC, you guys, it's
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  Speaker 5: supposed to be a back-loaded pay.
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  Speaker 6: So....
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  Speaker 7: If he leaves and.
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  Speaker 5: Comes back to the NFL, what's going to happen is
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  Speaker 5: he's going to lose all that revenue in his contract
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  Speaker 5: that he already signed with NBC. So will he do
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  Speaker 5: like what kind of bill Cower has done?
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  Speaker 7: It's possible.
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  Speaker 5: Or he might do like what Mike McCarthy and some
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  Speaker 5: of these other guys, they'll sit out a year or
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  Speaker 5: two and then maybe come back for Tomlin. I think
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  Speaker 5: he's a, he's historically a great coach. As far as,
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  Speaker 5: turning a team around like team, they might.
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  Speaker 7: Not miss them.
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  Speaker 5: They might make miss the playoffs that next year. They're,
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  Speaker 5: they're almost ready. They're almost a shoe in as a playoff.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, he's definitely well-respected across the NFL. I just
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  Speaker 5: really think that he's maybe better off to stick into
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  Speaker 5: NBC because his contract, according to Andrew March and NBC insiders,
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  Speaker 5: they said that it'll probably be, it'll be a lot
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  Speaker 5: for him to be taken off NBC. If he decides
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  Speaker 5: to leave it, it'll be a crazy lucrative contract. If
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  Speaker 5: he decides to come back in the NFL, cause they
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  Speaker 5: don't really need to.
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  Speaker 1: What's left to accomplish. He's not going to work. NBC.
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  Speaker 1: Think about it. He ends up replacing Tony Dungy.
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  Speaker 7: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: Tony Dungy was there. And I think there's no question
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  Speaker 1: in my mind that Mike Tomlin will be every bit
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  Speaker 1: as good as Matt Fett. Okay. Go ahead, Lucas.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, with his success in the NFL, I
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  Speaker 8: feel like he's just going to turn that into another
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  Speaker 8: good career in broadcasting as well. I mean, he has, what,
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  Speaker 8: 500 record as a coach with the Steelers, and now
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  Speaker 8: he's just going to ride out the storm as a commentator. So,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, great for him making that move and making
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  Speaker 8: that push, and I think it's going to be a
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  Speaker 8: good move for NBC to make that happen.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Cliff.
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  Speaker 2: He was a top-notch coach. I mean, any person that
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  Speaker 2: takes over the helm of the Pittsburgh Steelers Um, that, and, uh, yeah, that's,
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot of pressure to begin with. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: very rarely change coaches and he just kept along with
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  Speaker 2: that tradition of having a long tenure and a decent
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  Speaker 2: career there. Um, a good, a good career there. Um,
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  Speaker 2: they were, they always seem to be in the playoff
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  Speaker 2: picture most of the time. Um, oh, oh, so that was,
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  Speaker 2: that was, was keeping them there for so long. Good,
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  Speaker 2: solid coach, good coach. And, He's probably going to be
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  Speaker 2: following right in the footsteps of Cowher. He's probably going to,
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  Speaker 2: even with those, in context of situations, it can just
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  Speaker 2: be every year, oh, Mike Tomlin's going to come back.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's going to pop up every year because we always
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  Speaker 2: have coaches that are on the hot seat every single year.
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  Speaker 2: It can be pro. It can be college. And they're
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  Speaker 2: going to say, oh, Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin, Mike Tomlin.
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  Speaker 2: And they did the same thing with Bill Cowher. How
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  Speaker 2: many years did it take people to say, Bill Cowher's
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  Speaker 2: not coming back? Okay. He was happy with broadcasting. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't have the pressure.
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  Speaker 6: He won.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he won. And, yeah, it's a white woody. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: he's just happy doing that. He can do football. And
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't have to worry about. like dealing with all
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  Speaker 2: the things coaches got to worry about, you know, he's,
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  Speaker 2: he's paid his dues and now he's just, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I get to talk about football on TV and do
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of other things. And he had a cushy,
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  Speaker 2: he's got a cushy thing now. So he's, he's not,
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  Speaker 2: he's no dummy. He's no dummy. I, if he's, he's,
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  Speaker 2: if he goes to go back, it's because he really,
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  Speaker 2: really missed it, but I don't know if he's going.
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  Speaker 1: To do that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 9: Candy. You know, the one thing I guess, besides the
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  Speaker 9: fact that he was a good coach, is his Tomlissisms.
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  Speaker 9: He's got some iconic phrases like the standard is the standard.
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  Speaker 9: And if our team doesn't face enough adversity early on
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  Speaker 9: in the season, I create it. Nothing builds a team
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  Speaker 9: like adversity. I just think it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 9: how that translates to a broadcasting career, because sometimes it's
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  Speaker 9: It does translate, and sometimes it doesn't translate. But he's
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  Speaker 9: already had such a successful career in coaching. It'll be
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  Speaker 9: interesting to see. I look forward to seeing him call
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  Speaker 9: some of these games, his broadcasting career.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'll go back to what Cliff said. When you've
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  Speaker 1: accomplished everything, you won a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 8: Why?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Michigan State football. We don't
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  Speaker 1: get an opportunity to do it too often, but we
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  Speaker 1: will tonight. When you think about where they were about
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  Speaker 1: a year ago, they were like 6-11 in Big Ten
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  Speaker 1: competition against FBS teams under Jonathan Smith. The losses have
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  Speaker 1: been by an average of 20.6 points. Now, where did
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  Speaker 1: they get rid of them? Well, to the employment line.
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  Speaker 1: They got let go. Guess what? The program is doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald has taken over. And his guy is parting
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  Speaker 1: to a two-on-one record. The last loss was against Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: But let's just talk about, John, the state of Michigan
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  Speaker 1: State football.
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  Speaker 3: Well, guess what? As Jonathan Smith found out, the.
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  Speaker 4: Big 12 is not anywhere close to the Big 10.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you get a coach from the West Coast.
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  Speaker 4: Look what happened across the state of Michigan. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they went out on a limb. They got Brady Hoke
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  Speaker 4: from San Diego State to be their coach and failed,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just was not up to the task. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, could Jonathan Smith, could he have done well
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  Speaker 4: and he stayed at Oregon State?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you don't have the pressure, but, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you go to the Big Ten. I mean, look at
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  Speaker 4: one of the teams that I played against in the
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  Speaker 4: Big Eight. that went there, Nebraska. What if they won
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  Speaker 4: since they've joined the Big Ten? You know, they used
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  Speaker 4: to run the Big Eight and the Big 12. They
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  Speaker 4: were always in the conference finals, going to the national
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  Speaker 4: championship a lot of years. But they haven't been really,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Nebraska who now in the Big Ten. Like
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  Speaker 4: I said, Big Ten's a big, big, it's a tough
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  Speaker 4: place to play.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Jason?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what?
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  Speaker 5: I think at the time, Michigan State, they wanted to
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  Speaker 5: get a big name or a coach in there, so
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  Speaker 5: they hired Jonathan Smith.
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  Speaker 7: It didn't work out.
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  Speaker 5: But with Pat Fitzgerald, I mean, his career with Northwestern
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  Speaker 5: speaks volumes.
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  Speaker 7: He had 10 bowl game appearances.
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  Speaker 1: He was 5-5.
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  Speaker 7: He finished.
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  Speaker 5: Than Bo Schembechler.
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  Speaker 7: In his bowl games. But, you know, like.
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  Speaker 5: Like losing, no shame in losing. I mean, I did
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  Speaker 5: like what he came out and said, hey, this is
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  Speaker 5: not going to be moral victories here.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we lost 27-10. I know that Notre Dame's
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  Speaker 7: number three. No shame.
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  Speaker 5: But as far as Michigan State, they want to get.
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  Speaker 7: Back on the map.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you got to come out. You have to
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  Speaker 5: have a 9-3 record this year. You can't be 6-6, 5-7.
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  Speaker 5: Most people aren't going to take you serious. And in
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  Speaker 5: the Big Ten, as John was saying, it's, you know, it's,
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  Speaker 5: it's not your big 10. It's like your big 12.
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  Speaker 5: Now they've had, you know, when UCLA, USC, Nebraska, these.
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  Speaker 7: Teams join in the conference.
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  Speaker 5: So there was some mistakes in this game that he
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  Speaker 5: came out and said, it was a, a fake punt.
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  Speaker 7: They did. They missed.
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  Speaker 5: Like you got to make those plays in a big game.
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  Speaker 5: So it's going to take some time for Fitzgerald to
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  Speaker 5: kind of maneuver that team. As far as defensively, you're
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  Speaker 5: got to have, you got to stop somebody. And, and
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  Speaker 5: that's one thing Michigan state hasn't done since, since Mark D'Antonio. And, and,
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  Speaker 5: If you get Mark D'Antonio in there, a guy like Fitzgerald,
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  Speaker 5: this is a good hire. I think that if they
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  Speaker 5: can go 8-4 this year, 9-3, it'll be a successful year.
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  Speaker 7: But defensively, they've got to stop somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff, Jason. Go ahead, Lucas.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, Michigan State hasn't had anyone since Mike D'Antonio,
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  Speaker 8: and they had that one season in 2021 with Mel
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  Speaker 8: Tucker going 11-2. I mean, ever since then, it's really
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  Speaker 8: hasn't really been anything worth noting. It's, I mean, the
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  Speaker 8: in-state rivalry with Michigan and Michigan State has been just
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  Speaker 8: Michigan all the way. I mean, it's kind of Sparty
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  Speaker 8: is falling off slowly but surely. I mean, they want
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  Speaker 8: Mark back in there as soon as possible, but the
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  Speaker 8: last couple of years with him was just subpar, so
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  Speaker 8: what do you do with a legend like that? I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: obviously you let him go, but I mean, they need
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  Speaker 8: to find some kind of rejuvenation in that program because
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  Speaker 8: I mean, little brother is falling down big time. So
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  Speaker 8: they need to find something. They'll, uh, get it back
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  Speaker 8: to the, um, big 10 rivalry that, that it used
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  Speaker 8: to be.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, um, yeah. So, um, I mean, yeah, like everyone's saying,
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten is tough to coach in. Michigan State
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  Speaker 2: has had its problems. You get off to 2-1, it's
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  Speaker 2: better than 1-2 or 0-3, that's for sure. And like
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  Speaker 2: you said, there is no shame to losing to Notre
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  Speaker 2: Dame in South Bend. It's good that he beat Toledo.
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  Speaker 2: It's good that he beat Eastern Michigan. He's supposed to
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  Speaker 2: beat Toledo in Eastern Michigan coming in. So when you
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  Speaker 2: have those games, you win them. Now the tougher test
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  Speaker 2: is going to be some of those teams in the
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten, the Ohio States or the Penn States or
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  Speaker 2: whoever they might be facing off. And, of course, see
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  Speaker 2: if you can beat Michigan. I think if they can
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  Speaker 2: beat Michigan, find a way to eke out a win
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  Speaker 2: against Michigan this year, that even if they don't have
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  Speaker 2: the greatest record, that'll probably at least give them another year.
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  Speaker 2: just beating Michigan would be massive to the fan base there.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he'll do better than that. I think
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  Speaker 2: he'll probably have a pretty good year this year. It's
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  Speaker 2: tough to be a coach, especially in the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 2: They keep adding teams. Conferences keep adding teams, dropping teams.
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  Speaker 2: I can't keep track of who is what. Is the
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  Speaker 2: Pac-12 there? It's gone.
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  Speaker 1: It's there.
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  Speaker 2: UCLA is there. I can't keep track. I can't keep
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  Speaker 2: track of who's in what division anymore. And the numbers
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  Speaker 2: don't mean anything anymore. And like, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: supposed to have the numbers. Oh no, it's just, it's
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  Speaker 2: just a marketing thing now. It used to be, I
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  Speaker 2: never understood that, but Hey, Hey, I think he's going
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  Speaker 2: to do a pretty well. And like I said, if
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  Speaker 2: he can beat Michigan, that'll probably definitely give him.
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  Speaker 3: At least another.
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  Speaker 9: Michigan state ranks 10th in the big 10 in for
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  Speaker 9: estimated roster value. Top-tier conference programs like Oregon, Ohio State
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  Speaker 9: operate with roster valuations between $ 37 and $ 41 million, leaving
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  Speaker 9: MSU roughly $ 10 to $ 20 million behind national playoff caliber
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  Speaker 9: spending benchmarks. Makes a difference. The thing I did not realize,
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  Speaker 9: and I was looking this up, I did not realize
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  Speaker 9: that Michigan State has been around for as long as
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  Speaker 9: it has. It's been around for 130 years, and they
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  Speaker 9: have won six national championships. Did not know that. But
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  Speaker 9: coaching is hard, and especially in this NIL era. And
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  Speaker 9: recruiting is hard. And not everybody that's a good coach
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  Speaker 9: is a good recruiter. And in college, you kind of
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  Speaker 9: either have to have both or you have to hire
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  Speaker 9: somebody that is good at doing the recruiting for you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of Michigan State's history is built around
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  Speaker 1: Duffy Doherty, and then George Burlow said some good stuff
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  Speaker 1: to it as well. So, yeah, but I think Pat
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  Speaker 1: Smithfield has done a really good job and given him
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  Speaker 1: some time. I'm going to stay in the Big Ten
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  Speaker 1: because about a year ago, in 1980, Chris McIntosh gave
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  Speaker 1: a vote of confidence, backing Luke Fidel despite a 2-5 record.
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  Speaker 1: in a five-game losing streak. He did. Let's face it.
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  Speaker 1: He knows he has to get him more resources. So
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  Speaker 1: when we look at the Wisconsin Badgers program in general, John,
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  Speaker 1: where do you think Luke McKellar, does he belong in
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  Speaker 1: the hot seat, or do they still have to give
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  Speaker 1: him a little bit more time?
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  Speaker 4: I think they need to give him some more time because,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you've got to have resources. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: like you look at the SEC.
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  Speaker 3: Which is what I'm a little bit more familiar with.
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  Speaker 4: Vanderbilt, you know, do they have the resources that Georgia
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  Speaker 4: and Knoxville and, uh, you know, Ole Miss LSU, do
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  Speaker 4: they have that? Certainly not Alabama, but you know, they
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  Speaker 4: stay competitive. You know, those guys are happy if they
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  Speaker 4: go five and five and, you know, with Wisconsin, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, again, it's just going to be some resources and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're in the big show. They've been a
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  Speaker 4: long time member of the big 10. I don't see
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  Speaker 4: them leaving the big 10. Uh, a few more resources.
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  Speaker 4: You know, maybe they need to go hire the athletic
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  Speaker 4: director from James Madison. If you've seen what that program
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  Speaker 4: has done, gone from nothing to getting into the BC,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the bowl championship series, you know, they're doing
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  Speaker 4: something right.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what maybe Wisconsin needs to do.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's face it. Barry Alvarez set the bar high
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  Speaker 1: for us. Anybody that was going to come by Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Alvarez is going to have their hands full. Some have
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  Speaker 1: done it. Maybe the expectations are high. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And for Kel's problem, is he trying to attempt to
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  Speaker 1: change a pro– he's trying to implement a pro-style offense
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  Speaker 1: to Wisconsin, which is known for a predominant running attack. But, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to modernize things. I just think Wisconsin is
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  Speaker 1: used to running the football versus the pass. Great stuff. Okay, Jason.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. I– I definitely agree. Like I said, uh,
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  Speaker 5: like you were saying, a team like James Madison, um,
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  Speaker 5: you know, coming out of nowhere and get to the
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  Speaker 5: FBS and, and, um, I mean, just, it's definitely doable.
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  Speaker 5: Like you were saying about Wisconsin, Scott, I mean, you
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  Speaker 5: would think, uh, follow the guy like Barry Alvarez has
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  Speaker 5: been there for eons of years. So, um, But, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: like I said, this is definitely a good state.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Lucas.
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  Speaker 8: JMU, yeah, I mean, that's a program that has definitely
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  Speaker 8: brought up some– Big time improvement in the Sun Belt.
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  Speaker 8: My goodness, who would have thought that they would have
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  Speaker 8: made a shoe-in for not even a bowl game, for
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  Speaker 8: a championship caliber. Seriously, that would have been amazing. For
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  Speaker 8: that to be replicated throughout the Big Ten for a
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  Speaker 8: program like Wisconsin or Nebraska or some other Lower Big
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  Speaker 8: Ten school would be paramount for them.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Clint.
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  Speaker 2: We were already talking about this in another way. It's
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  Speaker 2: tough to be a college coach. It's tough to follow
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  Speaker 2: certain people. Especially with the way the money is now.
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  Speaker 2: It's complicated everything. You're still trying to compete in that
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  Speaker 2: Big Ten. They have a good history, but it's... that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: going to go over? Is it going to continue with
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: how players are jumping from one school to another to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: another to another to get as much money and get
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: as much profile and get as much position in the drafts? Um,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: so it's, you know, it's, I think he deserves more time.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Any party can't like, just like, okay, you're done. Um,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: give the guy a little bit of time. All right,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: let's see. Um, but it's, it's, I just think it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: become more complicated to trying to get that, those programs, uh,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to be the programs that they always were. So some
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: will flourish and I think others will go to the wayside. Um,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: because they might not be able to compete in this
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: new world with the, with money. And because it's like,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: can they compete with like the, the Georgia's and the
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Alabama's and the LSU's and whoever, you know, I know
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: they're not in the big 10, but I mean, money-wise,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: where are you going to go? You're going to go
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: where the biggest programs are. They're going to go where
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: the most money is. The big 10.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Do they have money?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt, but I mean, it's, I can't tell
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you either way. I think the whole money system has
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: completely changed college sports overall, and I don't think we
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: can predict anything. I think there's just going to be
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: even more turnover now for more money and sponsorships and
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: whatever other money situations pop up from now on.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Candy?
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: Well, this is obviously near and dear to my heart
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: because I have been a Badger fan forever, for my
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: whole life. The Badgers were on one of the longest
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: college bowl game streaks for the football program before Luke Fickle. Now,
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: I will say that Luke has had some bad luck.
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: In the last three years, his starting quarterback went down
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: in the first one or two games. And we're out
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: for a significant amount of time. So I get it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: But I also know that it's a win-now league, really.
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: And part of the problem is now they are seeing
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: it in the gates. They are having something like this
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: last game was one of the lowest attended games in years.
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: Do I think Luke Fickle is a good coach? Yes,
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: I think he's a good coach. I think he tried
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: to come into the Badgers and change how the Badgers,
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: their strength. Their strength has always been offensive linemen and
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: the running game. And it's now a passing game. So
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: I think he was trying to change it to more
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: of a passing game. And I think that's where he
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: erred because I don't think then you were getting some
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: of the homegrown talent that Wisconsin drew from before. Would
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: I give him another year or two? At this point, sure,
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: because the Badgers probably can't afford to get out of
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: his contract just yet either. And let's face it, they
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: don't have the deep pockets that Michigan and Ohio State
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: and some of those do that are drawing from the talent.
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: Their roster budget for 2026 is over $ 25 million, though,
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: which is more than.
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: Double the amount it was last season for perspective.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about coaches. I want to stay on this friend.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: A couple things that I want to talk about and
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. I was trying to interview Jim
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Moore Jr. when he was with Connecticut last year. One
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: little problem. He wasn't available to see his family. You
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: know why? He took the job over at Colorado State.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: How about that? You know, why talk to me when
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: you're Bolton? Well, let's talk about the Colorado State fire
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and Jay Norvell. I thought Jay Norvell actually did a
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: decent job at Colorado State. When he was let go,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: he was 2-5, but he was 18-26 for four years.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: The Rams have not been relevant for a long, long time.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: And I know that Jay probably has a lot of
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: coaching left in him. But, John, what are your thoughts
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: about the job that Jay did when he was at CSU?
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Within the Mountain West, there has been so much drama
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: and churn. You know, it's another school that hasn't put
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: the resources into their program the way that some of
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the other Mountain West schools did. And now you look
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: out where half of the Mountain West is, it's now
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: the Pac-12. You know, the Fresno State, the San Diego State.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised Colorado State didn't go with the
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: rest into the Pac-12, but.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I thought they did go to, if I understand correctly,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, I think they are a
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: member of the Pac-12.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Are they?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Are they?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I've missed that.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: No, don't worry about it. And I'll tell you why.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Because when Colorado left, they wanted to get back in
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the Denver market, and they opted to go to Colorado. So, therefore,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the Pac-12 was able to get the Colorado market retainers.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: take it from there. No, it's no big deal. I,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I follow this stuff all the time. I have no choice,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: but now you have some information. How do you want
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to add to that?
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Like I said, there was so much drama the last
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: few years in the mountain West. And, you know, frankly,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: some of the schools, you know, didn't get real competitive.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I look at my alma mater.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: San Diego state, they've got a brand new stadium. They're
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: the only football team South of orange County. And they
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: can't draw fans either. So, You know, like I said,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: a brand new if you've ever been to Snapdragon Stadium
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: in San Diego.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: And it was given to them when the Chargers left.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: They got all that land where Qualcomm Stadium used to sit.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Beautiful stadium. But for whatever reason, those schools, I think
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: they got a little too concerned with economics and stadiums
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: and acquiring talent.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, great stuff, John. Appreciate it. Okay, go ahead, Jason.
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: Can you hear me?
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just going to say that, man, you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: teams like Boise State, Washington State, you know, like I
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: just remember some years ago, 2007, it's been a while,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: that Ian Johnson, he had the touchdown against, I think
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: it was the Sugar Bowl, and he did a proposal
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: to that cheerleader. Heck, even then, it was good stuff,
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: but now it's like over the last 15 or 20 years,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: you know, like John was mentioning, they just haven't been able,
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: as far as football... football anyway, they just haven't been
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: able to find the map as far as, you know,
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: being relevant. Um, uh, as far as the coach goes,
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: like I said, if you can somehow turn that record
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: around from two and five, but it was four and
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: three ish, you got.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: To get to, uh, so you can make a bowl.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: If you can make a bowl and then build on
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: that for the next year, you know, that's, that's a
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: good thing. But, but like you were saying, um, those, those, uh,
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: those colleges out there, like the whack Western, you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Atlantic from Washington state. And that it's kid, if you're
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: on the West coach, you don't really get to, you
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: can see it out there, but you don't really get
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: to see those.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: Teams, you know, on a, on a normal basis anywhere else. So, um,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: I I'm rooting for them. You know, like I said,
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: I root for that, for that conference.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: You just hope that they get back on, you know, the,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: relevancy if you will.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: Okay go ahead lucas yeah it seems like uh colorado
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: state and colorado are synced up uh because what in
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: 2024 they had a winning record uh colorado had a
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: nine four record and then um colorado state were eight
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: and five uh i guess they were riding the dion
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: sanders wave out in colorado and then last year they
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: had atrocious records like I think two and 10 for
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Colorado state and three and seven for, or somewhere around
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: there for, um, for Colorado is just what, what's going on. What's,
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: what's the, um, what's the disconnect there because Colorado state's
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: basketball team, that is, that is something that they need
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: to replicate. Somehow they need to, um, Colorado state needs
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: to get some kind of success in coming back from
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: their basketball team into their football program because, I mean,
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: their basketball team hasn't had a, I mean, it's consistent
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: 20-plus win seasons. And, yeah, it's always successful. They're always
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: in the tourney. They're always making noise in basketball. But football,
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, ever since they've made that push to Pac-12,
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: it's just been, I mean, they made the, they made
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: the noise in 2024, but let's, this is their year
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: to make a push.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Guy goes 18 and 26 after 44 games. He should be,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: she should expect to be fired. It's yeah. like I said,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: it's not easy to be a coach. And then who,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: who follows him? Jim Moore, a junior.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying Jim Moore, Jr. Got the job because
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: he's Jim Moore, Jr. But there's some, there is some
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: sway in that name. He had a little bit of
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: success where he was. So that probably helped. But, I mean,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: it's like the Mountain West, and I'm on the East Coast,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and how often do we really get to see games
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: all that often? It's usually late night on ESPN. Oh, yeah, look,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's Boise State. It's that team. You never see them.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Or you see them in the games.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Or one of CBS's side channels.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. It's like it's streaming. You never see it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: If you have the ESPN Plus or something, you don't
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: see them. It's like, oh, it's late at night. It's like, oh,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: look at that. And Boise State's the big one. Because
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: they've got the blue field. And they do have some
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: good players that come out of there. And they know
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: they have to have the blue field because someone's going
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: to probably watch them. They don't have the blue field.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It's Boise State. I'm not trying to knock Idaho or anything.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: But when you're trying to get eyes or trying to
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: get competition with all that, you do what you've got
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: to do. And then what we were just talking about,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the conferences are changing all the time. Half of them
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: go to the Pac-12 and what wasn't the Pac-12– you
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: can't keep, you can't keep track of anything anymore. It's like, who,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: who's where, what's where, who's there, who's got that money,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: who's on that team. It's just so confusing. And it's like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: so it's probably, that's gotta be a nightmare to try
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to like, you know, try to have some sort of a,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: a steady program anywhere in college football. But now I'm
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: a mountain West. That's gotta be even much harder with the,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the insane amount of things going on. So I, I, I, I, I, I,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I hope Jim Moore Jr. does okay. And he doesn't
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: have his playoffs repeat like his dad did.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So we'll see.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, he's just, he's lucky that there's like 3
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: trillion bowl games now. So that, that, that helps.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: I mean, Colorado state, the Rams have a longstanding rivalry
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: with Colorado, Wyoming and air force. Yes, the team is
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: currently led by Jim Moore Jr. The thing that I
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: didn't know about Colorado State is that their first season
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: was back in 1892. They're 134 years old.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that is. And their stadium capacity is 41,000 at
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: Canvas Stadium. So I'll leave it at that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Okay. Time to get to our hockey topic because I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: know– Cliff is wondering when one is going to come up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I never leave hockey out of it. I have no
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: choice but to include one because of Cliff Neal. Is
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: it worth writing about? I doubt it. But anyways, Ryan
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Worsocki once said that he is willing to give up
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: what he's willing to do to get a win. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: give up one of my children for a F win.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: All right, give me a break. This takes insanity to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a new level. This guy here, well, I've heard a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: deck of people, but this one takes the cake, John.
• 32:58
  Speaker 8: Really?
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: You know, he's got a way with words. I've been
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: following him since he was with the South Carolina Stingrays.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: He came up with Caps coach Spencer Carberry. They coached together.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: They played together. He has got quite a team that
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: is getting assembled in San Jose. They have that one
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: winger seven foot one. I don't know if he's going
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: to make the roster or not, but my God, he
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: gets people's attention out.
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: On the ice.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: You know, he, it's almost like he, he counts as
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: two players on the ice. Almost the rumor I'm hearing
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: is that they are going to get Connor Hellebuck out
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: of Canada and get.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Him with the sharks.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: So, The Sharks are going to be one of the
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: teams I think will be a comer in the playoffs
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: this spring.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. It's all good,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: but would you give up one of your children for
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a win?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It depends on which one.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Pretty good. I don't know if I expected that out
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: of you, but I think it's pretty hilarious. I'll take it, Johnny.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: That's why you're on the show, because I need your candor,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and you definitely give it to me. I got some
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: surprises for you on the sports draft coming up in
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, beauty.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, I got some really good ones for you, man.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You're always on my mind with both of these shows,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but what I have next week, you know, maybe we
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: can show tomorrow, but wait until next week. All right, Jason,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about this guy wanting to give
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: up one of his children or whatever?
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: I think, you know what, though, there's a lot of
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: sports players who would say that.
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: He came out, you know, San Jose was what, 38-34?
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: They had 86 points. They missed the playoffs this year.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: You're talking Ryan Worsowski. He's 38 years old. How much
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: time does he have left? You know, maybe another year,
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: you know?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: Again, this is just a lot of players say that. And, hey,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: if it's for the Stanley Cup, then one thing you
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: would have said, well, why not one for the Stanley Cup?
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: But they're frustrated. They haven't made the playoffs. I can
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: see why he said it. Of course, not going to
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: give up our kids for it, but I've heard of
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: people saying their right finger, right pinky, whatever. So it happens,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: and it's out of frustration that players say it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. Okay, Lucas?
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: I mean, with the amount of draft picks that they
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: just got this year, I mean, it's a fair estimate
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: that they're going to be one of the best teams.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: In the NHL.
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: I mean, bringing in, gosh, another prospect from Canada. I mean,
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: with all they have from Canada, It's going to be
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: amazing to watch as a Sharks fan. I've been looking
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: forward to this for so long. And even though they
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: didn't make the playoffs last year, it was so much
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: fun to watch. I mean, heck, there was a freaking
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: goalie fight with the Panthers last year. The Sharks are
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: going to make it interesting. The Sharks are going to
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: make it fun. warbanowski knows what is coming up with
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: this team he knows what's what's going to happen he
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: can feel the energy that's that's happening in san jose
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: it's um yeah it's a culture that's going to change
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: it's it's overdue it's way overdue it's i mean it's
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: it's coming it's um nhl here he comes the sharks are.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Coming If Connor Halvick is going to go anywhere, let
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: him stay in the Western Conference. I don't care. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: rarely have enough problems as it is. The last thing
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I need him to do is go migrate east. Okay, Cliff,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting on you to talk about this one. Give
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: me your thoughts. Did you give up one of your
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: children for a win?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: One, I only have one child, so no. I'm not
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: doing that. I'm a passionate hockey fan. I'm not that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: passionate about it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: Oh, all right.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just coach speak. He's frustrated at the time.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: He was 0-5 at the time. Like Jason said, they
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: just missed out on a playoff spot. They are getting better.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Everyone's right. They are getting better. They got Misa last year.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: They got Sternberg this year. In the draft, they signed
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Darnell Nurse. They signed Truba, but people think that wasn't
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: such a good combination of signs, a little bit overkill.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I think it was Mike Comrie just trying to– he
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: had the space and he signed too much. Their best
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: path is to go towards the speed, towards the youth.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: That's where they have to really focus. That's what the
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: game is now. And if the Sharks are going to
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: get anywhere, I think they're going to be a little
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: bit better. They're definitely going to be better. They may
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: sneak into the playoffs. They might still. But, I mean, remember,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: these guys, the kids are getting drafted. They're 18 years old.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: What are you expecting from an A.A.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Ally?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're okay. Not everyone's McDavid right away, okay?
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Not everybody's McDavid. Sometimes it takes a couple years. He
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: might be on the team, but it might take a
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: couple years for some of these guys to develop. It's
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: just hockey. That's just the way it is. A lot
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: of these guys are coming in from juniors playing against, like,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: 16 year olds or whatever. Sometimes I'm like, and yeah,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: they're dominating then. Um, and there's, there's no shame in that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: There's no, absolutely no shame in that because I'm like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you're 18, you know, not everybody's Matthew Schaefer.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: He comes in and he's a superstar. Um, and that's,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: that doesn't happen to, I, this year there'll be a
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: little bit better. I think that if they, if they
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: do get in, they'll just barely get in. Um, they, they,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: they did bring in a couple of guys for, for goalie. And, but, uh, yeah,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: they'll be fine. They'll, they'll compete. They'll be better. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: just think it's going to take a couple of years
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and now you can't, I'm like, you don't give your kids.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I know it's just go speak. It's just go speak.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I like, I, I look forward to San Jose.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I want to see them be better. It's been a
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: little bit, a few years since they've, they've been struggling
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: for a little bit and we'll hope that these draft picks, Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I remember that guy they drafted. He's like seven feet
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: tall without skates. I think that's scary.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Char was like six, nine and he was seven feet
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: with scary skates. Imagine a guy with seven feet without skates.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: That's just crazy.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: You're not, you're not going to try to like, apparently
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: not the greatest skater. And apparently he's a little bit
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: of a project. Um, so they're going to work on that. And, uh,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: but when he's ready, oh my gosh, he's going to
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: be just, it's going to be terrifying. It's going to
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: be terrifying to try to get around that guy.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Also, we know Clifton, he's got one kid, so he really, uh,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, yeah, you don't give up
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: what your only child. So what about you, Kenny? What
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: do you think about it? Everybody talks about coach speak.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: I mean, let's face it. They've done some things over
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: the offseason that helped improve them. If you ever have
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: any doubt, you can always refer back to Sports Rep.
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: I believe Cody Spinks has talked about this a couple
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: of times since that is his team.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: No, he's with the Anaheim Ducks.
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: Oh.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: That's all right. He's a Ducks guy. There's nothing wrong
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Well, he probably knows the team real well because he's
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: a rival.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 9: There we go.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, he does know the watch pretty well.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: His dad's an L.A. Kings guy.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Last part on that with the reason why he probably
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: said child.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Being an old sailor, retired sailor, he probably meant something
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: else that would have been censored.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: And probably gotten him in trouble with the league.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: A body part.
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: No, I wasn't. These young guns are going to wrap
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: around Macklin Celebrini and really form this bond?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I think they're going to be okay. I think they're
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: going to be better. They're going to be better, but
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to have this amazing playoff run.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I do see them getting an eighth spot. They're getting
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: in that eighth seed and then, well, what happens? Especially
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: when they're young, you're going against the ones. You're probably
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: going to get knocked down. If you get a game,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: you're happy. A game or two, especially a team like that.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: But it takes time.
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: They're young.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That's how you grow championships in the NHL. You grow
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: for a little bit.
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I do agree. It's going to be tough to
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: wrap around the avalanche in Vegas.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty tough.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just a little bit.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Great stuff. All right, let's talk baseball a little bit here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Michael Lorenzen. He signed a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: one-year contract. by the Toronto Blue Jays. Update, I think
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: it was just demoted after eight games. Candy will get
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: me an update. What do you think about Michael Lorenzen?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: This guy's been all over the place, John.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: And he's looking for a job now. He was DFA'd
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: on the 21st.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how about that? Unbelievable. Very much time left for
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: him to get one.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what?
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: There isn't a team in Major League Baseball. It doesn't
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: matter whether it's, you know, the Dodgers, the Padres. Uh,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: the nationals, God forbid, you know, we've had, uh, the
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: nationals just set a record.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: And blown saves for a season.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: Uh, there is not a team in all of baseball.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: It's not looking for a pitcher. They can turn around.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: He'll find a job.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Okay. No, fair enough. Jason.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, uh, he he's had
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: a bad year, uh, going to Colorado. I mean, that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: a hitter's park. So, uh, I mean, that's not going
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: to do you any favors. He was three and 11,
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: three and 11 with over a seven earn run average. Uh,
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: Toronto picked him up. He, they tried to put them
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: in a bullpen. He pitched 11 and two thirds had
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: a eight 49 bullpen.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: Uh, he'll find his way. I mean, he had a
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: no hitter, his first game with the Phillies. Cause my
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: tigers traded him away when he was doing really well.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: He had a good year.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: I think it was nine and nine that year, uh,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: with a sub three, uh, low four era with us
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: and then went to the phillies did okay there and
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: then kind of dropped off a little bit but um
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: i think i think he probably will get picked up
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: by another team like i said these guys he's what
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: 32 still 33 33 he'll get a 33 34 yeah.
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: So if he can pick up another, you know, a
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: gig where he can make a roster next year, going
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: into spring training with somebody, hopefully it's for a team
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: that's for his success, that it's a hitter, you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: a pitcher's ballpark. you know, like, uh, San Francisco or, um,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, they're not even, they're not like been tearing
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: the ball off the cover either lately for the giants, but, uh, uh,
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: definitely he was a good serviceable pitcher. Um, he still
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: has a little bit left in the tank. I think, um, um,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: as far as this year, it doesn't look like it
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: since he's been DFA, but.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: Uh, I liked him.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: I thought he was, uh, definitely a serviceable pitcher, and
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: he's been around the league. Kansas City Royals, I think
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: the Reds, he pitched many years with the Reds before
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: the Tigers, so.
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, hopefully he turns it around.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, Lucas?
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, at best, he's a middle reliever. His best years
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: were 2019 and 2016, and he didn't pitch that much,
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: to be honest with you. I mean, he only pitched
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: 50 innings in 2016. He only pitched 83, I mean,
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: he pitched 83 in 2019. They went one and four. So,
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: and he was pitching with Cincinnati at the time. So,
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: I mean, maybe it's just a team and he needs
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: to get picked up by the right one. I don't know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: but I mean, these last couple of years have been
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: really rough for him. So he, I mean, He needs
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: to find some kind of momentum in the offseason that's
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: going to propel him maybe into a middle relief spot.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: I mean, he's got 16 career saves. I mean, yeah,
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: with a 444 ERA, I mean, you're not going to
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: be making any more starts until you can make some
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: progress in the bullpen with that. I mean, it's, it really,
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: she's 20 this year. He's three and 13 with a
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: seven 21. Like, come on, you gotta have some kind
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: of improvement. So yeah, next year, spring training. I mean,
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to LA,
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: that's his roots. He went to Cal state Fullerton. He's
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: born in Anaheim. Maybe that's the solution for him to
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: get back on track. When he, I mean, he had
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: 424 when he was with L.A. I don't know. I mean,
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: he was only with them for one year, but at
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: the same time, maybe that's just what he needs. Yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: I don't see him making any kind of fireworks anytime soon.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: The only thing about Lorenzo that I know of seeing
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: him pitch enough times is he's got a live arm.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: The problem is he can't get himself under control. The guy, again,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: some of these guys with live arms can't just Can't
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: find the play. But, you know, you're looking for a
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: high-velocity guy. Michael definitely has it. But that's an alternative
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to Cliff. Tick-tock.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Tick-tock. He's 34. He's 34, and that's old for a pitcher.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Even a marital relief pitcher. And when you have over
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: an 80 RA and horrible record, and you're jumping from
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: one team to another, no offense to the guy. The
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: guy's just trying to make a living. I respect that.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: And he's a hell of a lot better of a
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Athlete than I ever have been, that's for sure. He
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: made it to the majors. Any person you can get there, great.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: But this is his norm. Yeah, he'll hook up somewhere
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: for a tryout next year. There's 30 teams in Major
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: League Baseball. Someone will give him a tryout. Will he
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: make a team? I don't know about that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Maybe.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Maybe not.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe they need him desperately because there's a couple injuries. Um,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: and they got to keep them there. But then once
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: the guys come back, they'll, Oh, we'll send him down
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: to play, but he might not want to do that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Cause he doesn't seem to like to go to triple a. Um,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I get it. When you get to the majors, you
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: want to stay in the majors, but you get to
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: a point where you're not performing. And even when you
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: were in your quote unquote prime, yeah, you're in the majors,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: but you weren't that great to begin with. All right.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, we'll see. He might just wind up
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: going to an independent team. He'll be on the Ducks
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: or something like that. That's where a lot of guys go.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: And then sometimes they do get to the majors. Heck,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Ricky Henderson did it. But that was Ricky Henderson. He
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: can say he played in the majors. He's 34 years old.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: And I don't think expansion is going to be coming
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: soon enough he'll probably be retired by the time expansion
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: does actually pop up because that'll water down the the
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: rosters and um but i think by that time he'll
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: be pretty.
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: Much done candy on january 15th of 2026 he signed
• 49:16
  Speaker 9: a one-year $ 8 million contract with the Rockies that included
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: a $ 9 million club option for the 2027 season. And yes,
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: then I know on August, he signed a major league
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: contract with the Toronto Blue Jays in six appearances. So
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: that's all he's done. And he made 26 appearances with
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: the Rockies. I hate to say this. He is getting old.
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: His arm is getting old. It's not just him. Let's
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: face it. He's got to go up against all these
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: young pitchers and stuff like that. It's not as easy
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: as you age. Is there someone that might go out
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: there and take a chance on him? There is. I mean,
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: he's already played for the Reds, the Angels, the Tigers, Phillies, Rangers, Royals, Rockies,
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: and Blue Jays. So he's kind of gone around the
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: league a bit, but you never know. I mean, there
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: are some. The problem is, will he sign for less?
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: You know, $ 8 million last year. And obviously, who knows
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: what's going to happen with baseball next year if we're
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: even going to have it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Great point.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: One thing to remember, the game has changed a little
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: bit from when he started because I think it was
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: maybe five, maybe six years ago, a manager could bring
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: in a reliever, have him pitch to one batter, maybe two,
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: and swap him out. In Washington, we had what was
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: known as a law firm bullpen, Madsen, Kensler, and Doolittle.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Madsen would come in and pitch to one guy Kensler
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: to the next guy, and then Doolittle would get the
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: final out. Well, now they have to pitch to three
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: batters minimum, and it's a little bit easier, a little
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: harder to keep that up for three batters or four
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: batters or five batters now. That's just the way that
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: they were conditioned, and then all of a sudden we
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: changed the rules.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I think I know what his problem is. He's not
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: breathing through his eyelids. He's not pregnant. Like those lava
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: lizards in the Galapagos, like Nucleoluche. You know, the way
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Fernando Valenzuela used to pitch. I had to bring that.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: That's what it reminded me of. You say he was
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: a power pitcher that had control problems. Well, I can't
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: think of a better example than Nucleoluche. But Nucleoluche was young.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's Nucleoluche, just older now. I had to bring
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: that in there.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: All right. That's it. Candy, go take a break.
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Candy. All right, well, let's go ahead and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: continue on. Everybody knows about Molly Karam, right? Former ESPN host.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: alongside Steve Smith. Well, she ended up leaving ESPN after
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: 19 years. How would you judge her as a talent, John?
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: I thought she had a lot of talent. You know,
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: I have to question, you know, what the heck is
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: she doing? I think she's running a boxing show now.
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: And if you look at, you know, right now, the
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: churn that's in the talent acquisition that's going in sports broadcasting,
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: what is it? Joe Buck just signed for, 20 million
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: a year. Troy Aikman is probably going to be getting
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: a nice hefty paycheck.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: They're represented by the same guy.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: And, you know, granted there's been some churn in the
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: sports news world, but it seems like there's an awful
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: lot of money and opportunity being tossed around right now. So,
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm kind of wondering why she took a
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: step back.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Never done on the page. Maybe she got tired of
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: working with Stephen A. Smith.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: It was awfully nice to her when she left.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, but you never know what goes on
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: behind closed doors in a production meeting. But, yeah, no,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I have nothing against Stephen A. Smith. I met the
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: guy at the Super Bowl, and he was really great.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: We took a photo, believe it or not, when I
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: write my next book. He'll probably end up going out
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: there and being in it. I have nothing against Stephen.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: He's always been polite to me. I'm just wondering why
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: she would have left a job like that, knowing that
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: she was not a very popular. I know they replaced
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: her with a shaped tapler, but mom was pretty good.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I liked her. I thought she was really good. Yeah.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, I'm sorry.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: You know, you know, you look, you know, usually if
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: you're going to move ahead, if you're going to get out,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: you know, well, you got Michelle Tafoya is running for
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: elective office now.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: You know, she was pretty popular.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Michelle, I'll tell you, Michelle was great. Okay.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jason.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: That's a good point.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: Uh, you see, um, There's a lot of opportunities for
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: these guys and gals to pick up positions like this.
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: Here's the thing.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: I think ESPN, for whatever it's worth, you're seeing a
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: lot of people either quitting or they're getting fired from there.
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: You know, Stephen A, he's never going to leave there,
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: Stephen A. Or you've got, say, Rachel Nichols, too. She's
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: been on there, so... These guys.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: And girls, they're going to take the opportunity, and it's
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: just the way it is.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: And, uh, I just, for ESPN, I just feel like
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: there's something like you said, Scott, there's a lot going
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: on behind the scenes.
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: We just don't know what's going on.
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: And, you know, somebody could say something to somebody, um,
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: that they don't like that could be disrespectful and whatever.
• 57:24
  Speaker 7: And then there you have it.
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: And then it, unless we look it up online, we're
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: not going to see it unless it was, um, a
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: recorded video or something, you know? So, um, there's stuff
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: behind the scenes and every network that probably that most
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: executives don't want.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: You to know.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: And I think for, I think for Molly here, you might,
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: she's just trying to maybe do her own thing with
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: the boxing thing.
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: We don't know. But at the same time, I.
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: Just feel like sometimes the ESPN is, you know, it's just,
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: there's just a lot of things that go behind the
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: scenes and we just don't know. And it's just all speculation.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: It's just all speculation, but, but, uh, who knows? Um,
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: I'm certain that we haven't seen the last of Molly. Um,
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: so we'll, we'll see how it goes with her. And
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: like I said, I just feel like ESPN is just
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: with all the firings and droppings and, and, and, and,
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: you know, and the hires and, and whatnot. And in football,
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: you see Monday night football, there's always a, you know,
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: there's a change there, you know, NBC, you know, and
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: same thing with thing with Tony Romo with that.
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: So with his thing, so we'll see.
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: Kind of how it goes, you know, but like I said,
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: as far as ESPN for me, it, it seems like
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: there could be a black eye and it's been this
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: kind of following them a little bit.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Great point, Jason, all the way around. Yeah, they do
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: have a lot of turnover there, that's for sure. Cliff?
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: The media world has been changing the last couple of years.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, with cuts everywhere. that happened a little before that.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Massive cuts of people you never thought would go away.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: This might have just been a precursor. It might have
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: been stuff behind the scenes. Like everyone's saying, that might
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: have had something to do with it. Maybe there was
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: some friction behind the scenes. I don't know. I can't speculate.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: They only know. But it could have been any number
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: of factors there. And then, yes, she went into the
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: whole boxing thing. She says she likes the boxing. She
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: wants to go there. She's working with Max Kellerman. So
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Max Kellerman is one of the top boxing guys there. So,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, she can go wherever she wants, and she'll
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: hook up. If that doesn't last all that long, she'll
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: go someplace else. She's established herself enough. On ESPN, there's
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: more than enough outlets. There's more than enough things that
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: she can do. I was always fine with what she
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: did on there for 10 years. You've left anywhere 10
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: years on a program, and then you go away. There's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: bound to be questions. She took over for Carrie Champion,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: who was there for a bit. She was probably there
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: longer than Carrie Champion was there. Um, so yeah, I,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I have, I have, I have no problem, uh, with
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: her going wherever she wants to go. If she wants
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: to go do that for now, do that. And, uh,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: she still has to make a, she still has to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: make a salary and I'm, I'm sure she's going to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: be fine. She still has enough of a name. I'm
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: sure she's got lots of social media presence and her
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: attention is being pulled all over. She's still Molly Claremont
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: and Claremont. And, uh, she's, she's going to be fine.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: She's going to be fine. Um, and, uh, you know,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: so I'm, I'm, I'm not really worried and it's, that's
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: the way it's going now because they're cutting down salaries too.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: They're cutting down salaries and bringing in younger people all
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the time too. And they're not doing TV like the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: way they used to with all the streaming and the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: social media and all that stuff. Everybody's cutting everything down.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: So that probably might've had something to do with it too,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: because their contract might've been up. We're not going to
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: bring you back because we're cutting. It was probably Brian
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: was on the wall. We're, we're, we're cutting across the,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: So you're probably going to be gone anyway.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: Well, Cliff, you said a mouthful. Now I want to
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: welcome Rob to the show. Appreciate you being on, buddy. Okay,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: you'll get a piece of this action here and a
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: few other topics designed for you anyway. But let's talk
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: about her. You tell me that, well, I know boxing
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: is something she's always liked, but if she's working with
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Matt Kellerman, Matt Kellerman and Stephen A. Smith hated each other,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: these two. And I'll tell you, Stephen A. Smith did
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: everything he could to voice an opinion that he should
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: have gotten rid of them ages ago. So I get that. Listen,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Molly's an exceptional talent. Max Kellerman and Stephen A. Smith,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: if there was a mismatch on the year bigger than
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: that one, let me know because I got news for you.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Smith outclassed them, out-knowledged them, or whatever, like I've never
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: seen anybody step on another individual. But more power to Molly.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: And you're right, she's an exceptional talent. With that said,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: we bring Rob Marotta on the show. Rob, give me
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: some talks about this.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, first of all, she's going to be fine. Second
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: of all, ESPN, a lot is going on behind the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: scenes with Disney. It's mostly a money thing, right? It's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: always about money. So they're cutting salaries. They're firing and
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: then rehiring and hiring for less money, which happens all
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: the time. So My thought is that she'll be all right.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: ESPN is a mess, I think, right now. ESPN is
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: not what ESPN used to be. It's just a big mess,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: and that's the problem. I don't know what Disney– Disney
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: really screwed up ESPN, I think.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: No question about it. All right, Lucas.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Molly's been the face of first take and ESPN
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: for a good while. And I mean, whenever she talks,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 8: it's just the entire show kind of halts like, okay,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 8: it's time for us to take a break or it's time.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: She is the, she knows how to get into a conversation,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 8: stop the conversation. Like she knows how to make her
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: impact and people listen to her people. I mean, people
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: listen to her for years and she knows how to,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: listen to a time clock whenever, like, for example, she
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: can read a script and just go through it just
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 8: like that. And it is, you can understand every single
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: bit of it. And she's really quick with it. And
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: she's getting her worth now doing her own thing. I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 8: can guarantee you that she wanted a lot more money
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 8: than ESPN was going to give her. And she just said, nope,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 8: I'm worth more than that. And she wanted her own venture.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 8: Great for her. I love that for her and she
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: deserves all of the best for that. And to be honest,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 8: I mean, Shay taking over first take is, I mean,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 8: taking over her footstep, Molly's footsteps.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 8: Good for her. She's also trying to find the realm.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 8: And I mean, Molly set the foot, Molly set the
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 8: blueprints for her to kind of do that. And I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 8: guarantee you Shay watched Molly and, and I mean, heck
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 8: Molly probably even gave Shay some tips on, Hey, this
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 8: is how you do this. This is how you do this.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: Because yeah, I just get the vibe that Shay's wanting
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: to be in Molly's shoes and maybe even be in
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: the same situation. But yeah, it's for Molly being in,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, she has a huge social media following. I mean, she,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: she's had no issues doing it on her own and,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: and yeah, she's, she's going to take off. She's going
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: to do well. And it's, it's going to be on
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: a platform that she can handle and, That's on her own,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 8: and she doesn't have to worry about any kind of
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: contract negotiations with ESPN. She's got her own stuff. So, yeah,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: she's going to be perfectly fine with herself because she's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 8: an independent woman. She's doing great.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's exceptionally talented. I've watched a lot about her
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: moderating skills. Nothing wrong with her at all. She's exceptionally talented.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: I can't eat.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: She decided to close this incredible chapter and step away
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: from first take. One of the greatest honors of my career.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 9: Don't we all want to call our own shots? Don't
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 9: we all want to decide, hey, you know what? It's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 9: time for me to move on. It's time for me
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: to make more money. She did all she could. Let's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: face it. Being on... first take with some of the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: other personalities that are there, she takes a back seat
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 9: and she doesn't want to take a back seat, you know,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 9: and she is right now one of the, how should
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 9: I put this more popular female broadcasters out there. So
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 9: kudos to her, be a leader, do what you want
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 9: to do. And if you want to, Go to Zuffa
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 9: Boxing on Paramount +. More power to you. You can
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: call your own shots right now. I think she could
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: be a trailblazer. So kudos to her.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: She already is.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff all the way around. I'm going to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: be just an FYI to everybody, Rob. I'm going to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: make sure to include it on all these broadcasting topics.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: So when you ever text me again what I'm going
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: to be involved in, Well, you know, you're giving for
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the New York stuff anyway. That's a giving to deliver.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to give you a piece of the broadcasting, actually,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: because you're in the business with us. And I think
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: we should have a shot at these topics. So you
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: don't have to ever ask me. You already know. And
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: if there's a couple of big ones, I'll hold off
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and find other topics. I'll go ahead and make sure
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: that you're able to be accommodated. I mean, Molly Kermit
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. And to think that this woman is
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: a trailblazer. Let me say, I had the opportunity many
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: years ago to... Get to know Leslie Visser. Leslie Visser
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: is a trailblazer if I ever saw one. Katie, wasn't
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Leslie a pretty good woman?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were with me when I got to see
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: her again. And I'm telling you, Leslie, I don't think
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: there's a whole lot bigger than Leslie Visser. I really don't.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: And Molly's just one of those people that's a great personality.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Very attractive, too, by the way. She really is. And again...
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: The word trailblazer is something that I like when we
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: use that term because you're talking about a lot of
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: lady announcers to me that have done unbelievable, but if
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: it weren't for these trailblazers, they wouldn't have opportunities in
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: the first place. So with that said, we'll close out
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: the topic. And when I talk about New York topics,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: all right, Rob, get ready for this one, man. I've
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: been waiting for you. We all know about a year
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: ago that Mets broadcasters were I'm set with the Marlins,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: and we're taking a team photo after eliminating a year
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: ago in Miami. I know that had to bother you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit, right, because nobody likes to be showed
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: up on the other term. Well, guess what? Let's move
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: the clock up. A year later, the Orioles and ex-met
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo knocked him out. I don't think that's a
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: good picture, but revenge is a tough thing. You know, Rob,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going to lead off with you on this one.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Pete Alonzo bit you.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, listen, that whole week was crazy at Citi Field.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: Met fans finally got a chance to let it out.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: They let David Stearns know exactly how they felt. They
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: gave Alonzo a standing ovation. every time they saw him.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: He came out to tip his hat after he hit
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 6: his 300th home run. And I think that was great.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: You know what? You knew he was going to do
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: it against the Mets. So he took a curtain call.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Who cares?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: You know what? They started chanting, fire Stearns, fire Stearns.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: This is how the players feel. I mean, this is
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: how the fans feel. And I don't care. And it
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: actually bothered a couple of Met players. Like Sean Mania
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: said something about it. Like it was hurtful for Met
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: fans to cheer Pete. so loud when he also tied
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: a game with a home run that the Mets should
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: have won off of Senga. He blew the save. So
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: the players were getting upset. But you know what? They
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: don't have a clue. They don't know how it is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: because it's different for fans, right?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: So Alonzo got the ovation that he deserved. Stearns got
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: what the fans– feel he deserved, you do not. You
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: do not let a homegrown player who just broke your
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: club's home run record, you don't just let him walk
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: away and not give him an offer. You don't do it,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: especially a fan favorite, a good guy, It was a terrible,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: terrible move by the Mets. Look what happened. Destroyed this year.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: And Alonzo's having a typical Alonzo year. In fact, he
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: got hot this last month. He's having a better year.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: So he gets the last laugh. The Mets fans were
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: able to get the frustrations out, which was great. But
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: you know what? It's done. Let's move on.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: It's over. Well, you know, it's amazing. They were upset
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: when the Marlins knocked them out to begin with because
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: they took a photo. Obviously, it shows the hatred between
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: those two. Of course, one of the few teams that
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: draw for the Marlins are the Mets, obviously, to begin with,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: and they take a photo to show them off. I'm
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: telling you one thing. I knew that when Pete Alonzo
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: went to Baltimore, he didn't cam that yard. There was
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: no way he couldn't hit home runs out of that
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: ballpark because that is an absolutely hitter's friendly ballpark.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: We're downstairs. We're going to go to Lucas. Go ahead.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the Mets have been just struggling to make anything happen.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: I mean, you had a billion dollars worth of players
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: that couldn't catch.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: A little bloop single.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: Like, you had Boba Shedd, you had Juan Soto, and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: then you had Francisco Lindor just let one drop in
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: the middle.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: What, like a.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: Week ago or a couple of days ago? I mean,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 8: it's just... such a Mets thing it's unfortunate I mean
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: you have I mean between the Dodgers and the Mets
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: and the Yankees just so much money invested in your
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: players and then you let your best player you don't
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: even try to let him go I mean you don't
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: even try to keep him I mean like one of
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: my good buddies he works in Raleigh he's a huge
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: Mets fan I always give him crap whenever they're playing
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: the Giants I'm like all right, here we go. We
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: got the series coming through. And then, and he's always saying,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: oh yeah, the bats aren't going to make anything happen.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: I'm always like, oh man, come on. They got, they
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: got some good team. And then they show me what
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: the bets are doing. I'm like, oh geez. So, I mean,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: I was surprised when, just how, I mean, yeah, it
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: was kind of dirty how the Mets did Pete Alonzo
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: and Alonzo is just showing the Mets like, hey, you
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: shouldn't have done that. Like I, I was loyal to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: y'all and I showed y'all that I wanted to be
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: a Met. I wanted to help y'all out. I was,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: I was the face of this franchise. Like, I mean,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: the one of many faces of the franchise, like this is,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: this is me. This is home. Like, show me the money. Like,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: come on, don't, don't even show them the money. And
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: he just says, okay, fine. I'll go find a team.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: That's actually going to, pay me what I deserve and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: actually wants me. Because it's kind of a New York
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: feel to it. It's just like, we're just not going
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: to care about you. We actually just don't care. We
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: just want to kind of lowball you. I'm like, dude,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: you've got a hell of a player. You've got a
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: guy that can easily make a run in for the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: Triple Crown maybe one year. Give him a contract. Give
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: him at least some kind of fate, some kind of bone.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: And he can play first base really well, because right
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: now you are fishing for a first baseman. I mean, Vientos,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: come on. Are you serious? So inconsistent. And it's just
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: a total letdown for the fans. I mean, yeah, they
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: need to let the management hear what their frustrations are
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 8: because the fact that they're even going to these games
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 8: and like showing their support, like that displays how much
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 8: they love this team and how much they want to say, Hey,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 8: we need, want some good players. And we're, I mean,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 8: the payroll is there and we got Juan Soto, Lindor of,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 8: I mean, fricking Devin Williams is supposed to be the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: next big thing for the closer. And then you got Boba. Shit.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: Come on. Fill in the gaps here. Then you let
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 8: Brandon Nimmo leave.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: Let's give the Mets fans something to share about something.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: I mean, besides, what, 2015 when they went to the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: World Series? Then some lost hope.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: Let's help them out.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Great stuff, Lucas.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Go to Cliff.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I told you, I told the world at the beginning
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: of the season what was going to happen. I said
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: it was going to be a massive mistake. I said
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: they were going to be terrible. I said this was
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: going to be a repeat of the early 90s. And
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: it was so good, good that he did that. I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: knew he was going to do it. I didn't want
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: him to go. No Met fan wanted him to go.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: You don't get rid of David Wright. You don't let
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Pete Alonso go. He should still be wearing that jersey.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: He should be wearing until he was retired. I'm glad
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: he stuck it to Stearns. I'm glad he did because
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Stearns is a buffoon. It's apparent that the guy who
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: was beneath him in Milwaukee was the real brains of
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: the operation. He did everything he could to help that
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: team win. He is pure meh. You do not let
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: him go. And I'm glad he stuck it down his
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: freaking throat. He's a buffoon. Stearns is a buffoon. And
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: he couldn't even figure out this is the guy that
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: we need to keep here. It's not that hard. We
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: haven't had all that many players that stand the test
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: of time to do these things. We're the Mets. We
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: ain't the Yankees, okay? We have our share of guys.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: When you get one guy like that, you hold on
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: to him. And it's not that hard. It's really not
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: that hard. You just said David Wright. It's not like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: it was 30 years before between guys.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: He was right there.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, just do this. No, no, no, we
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: can't do that.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 8: So good.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he did that.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: And you know what?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Sean and I, shut up.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Shut up. You are a mediocre pitcher who had one
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: good half season and made a contract out of that. Okay?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: I'm so sick of this guy. He was the most
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: inconsistent guy. He was hitting 93, 94 in that one season.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: And then he's down to 88, 89. You ain't going
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: to get people out with 88, 89 when other guys
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: are throwing 100. I'm like, this guy's like, oh, he's
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: had a couple good games since then. Okay, great. Who
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: are you to talk? Don't go pouting. That's Pete Alonzo.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: You should be so honored to have been able to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: play alongside him and see a real, here's the word, winner.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: He's a winner. He is a champion. Well, he's not necessarily,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying. A champion in spirit.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: A Met's Hall of Famer. I'm Mets Hall of Famer, okay? Period. Okay,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: when you look at all-time Mets, he's there. He's like
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: in that DH slash first-week all-time team. Yeah, he'll be
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: on that roster if he's got a full roster team there.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: You don't give that up. You don't give up an icon.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm glad he stuck it to them. i it's
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: not that hard you he took what was it five
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: years 155 you couldn't you couldn't best that i can
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: best that in my sleep you want to put the
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: the higher salary at the top of the the the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: um at the the early in the contract then do
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: that give him some more incentives and blow that away
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: he would have probably easily taken that but no no
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: he's he's mr smart guy i'm david spurns i'm i'm
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: i'm i've got i've got the i've got i've got
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: the equations and i know things i know apparently you
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: don't know much anything because you let you let your
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: best player go and one of your best players and
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: and you just completely screwed screwed the pooch on this
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: one all right buddy all right so yeah Pete Alonzo,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: I'm always going to love him. I'm always going to
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: love him. He's always going to get it. It breaks
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: my heart to this day. He took that one-year deal
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: for the prove-it deal. He shouldn't have even had to
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: do that. That was ridiculous. I'm like, I was thrilled
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: when we got him. I kept him. I'm like, I
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: was like, give him more. Give him more. Whatever we
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: got to do, we keep him here. They didn't. They
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: reap what they sow. They reap what they sow. And
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: here we are.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Where are we doing?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: We're one of the worst teams in baseball.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Because Stern's a moron.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Hey, Cliff, can I ask you one simple question?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: One simple question. Do you feel better now that you
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: had your rant?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: I do. It's very therapeutic.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: I appreciate it as an opportunity.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I deliberately throw these topics in here so you can
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: have a rant. I don't know how stressful your job is,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: but I'm always looking for a topic. Even if I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: don't argue with you all the time, I'll find a
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: topic that gets this guy's goat going. I actually thought
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: for San Jose Shark one would, but boy, you surprised
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: me when you were a cool guy. But we waited
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: for this. I knew it was going to be able
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: to hit the gong bell on you and get you
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: whamming away. Great stuff, Cliff. I don't always get that.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: I like to watch him. This show is therapeutic. That's
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: why he loves coming on. Of course, you don't want
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: to work with me because he takes my abuse on
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: a new vision every now and then. All right, Cliff,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: you're done for this segment. We need you for a
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: few more. So catch your breath. I don't want to
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: have cardiac arrest on this show. We have a few
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: more topics to go. Plus travel, by the way. Ross
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: definitely makes it in for the travel and a few topics.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: That's all good, Ross. Go ahead, Jason. Some thoughts about
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: obviously the Marlins situation. They showed up the Marlins a
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: year ago and now he gets revenge with the Mets.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Just your general thoughts about Pete Alonzo. He obviously stole
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: the show on this one.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 7: You know what? Pete Alonzo can't just a great player.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 7: Just a pros pro.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 5: Going to bat them third in your lineup every night,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: you know, uh, Potential, you know, I always felt like
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: this about Miguel Cabrera when we got him. I'm like, man,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: we're never going to get rid of the guy.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 7: Or are we? You know, like Alonzo, he's at the
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 7: prime of his career.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 5: And it's unfortunate that the Mets wouldn't pay him. And
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 5: maybe it was smart by Alonzo to just say, you
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 5: know what? Time to move on. I'm going to another team.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: Okay. I have better hitters on this team. Gunnar Henderson.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: I got.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: I'm just drawing a blank on some of the Orioles
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: players at the moment.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: But, you know, like, he got it together.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: It's just another unfortunate thing for Mets fans.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: And like Rob was saying, it's really sad.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: When it comes to that, and I feel, Cliff, I
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: feel your pain in so many ways there. And that's
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: kind of how I felt about Max Scherzer back in 2014. Like,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: we couldn't have paid him an extra $ 20 or $ 25 million.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: You offered him $ 180 million.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: Or I think it was 240, 300, right around there,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: and he ended up going to Washington. But, again, it's
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: Pete Alonzo. He's one of the very few first basemen
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: in the game that is just, you just look at him,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: he just has no weaknesses. You know, he's hard to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: strike out. Um, he, his, his batting average is up there.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: So ever since moving from the NL, the AL, like
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: he just, he got hot real quick and, and it's
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: just one of those things where the Mets are being
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: the Mets again, uh, Like, come on, man. Like, like
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: at least if you're going to build around a player,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: that's the man you have to build around, you know, like, Hey, well,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: he's a hitter. Well, yeah, we can build around a
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: guy like that. And I mean, you went out, I mean,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: it's not like they didn't try. They went out and
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: got Boba. They got guys like Alvarez behind the plate.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 7: They got Ewing.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: He's a young rookie out in the outfield. So, and
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 5: he's had a pretty good year, but It's not enough,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: but see, if you had a guy like Alonzo, then
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: you help these other players like a Bichette, like a Lindor,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: like a, you know, they kind of motivate the team
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: and they're veterans, but they also, they can mix in
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: a good young core there like Ewing.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 7: I like him a lot. that could be there. And
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 7: same thing.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 5: I think Freddie Peralta, he, they signed him for the Brewers.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: As soon as they signed him, he's done terrible here
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: for the Mets.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 7: I'm like, what happened?
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: So they just going to have to regroup, you know,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: like I said, they just going to have to regroup and, and,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: you know, it's, it's just one of those things for them,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 5: but Alonzo sticking it to the Mets, you know, Hey,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: That was going to happen. I mean, that was going
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 5: to happen. So, again, I think that he's going to,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: I believe he's going to be a Hall of Famer
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: for sure. and um you know it's just unfortunate that
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: he's in al and um but he's on it he's
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: on in al east that it's it's bomb city with
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: baltimore toronto and new york so yankee so just a
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: tough thing for the mets i it hasn't been the
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: same since since that world series run in 2015 and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: It's just one of those things where they got to
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: get smart. You know, fire the GM, hopefully. Fire somebody.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: Fire somebody, I know. I felt like that about Randy
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: Smith guys in the 1990s with the Tigers. They made
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: horrible decisions. They could not get one single player there
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: that was worth a darn as far as free agency.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: So when they finally got Pudge Rodriguez in 2004, like, oh,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: my goodness.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 7: So, again, I feel for the Mets fans and the organization.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Like I said, they have to take a look in
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: the mirror and just start over and start again and say, hey, listen,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: we have a generational talent here.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: We've got to sign him.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: Five-year deal. Like Cliff was saying, that was $ 155 million.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: It could have been easily $ 200 million. Pay him because
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: he is worth it. He is one of the very
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 5: few players that is worth that money.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Okay. Great stuff, Jason. Go ahead, John. I need to
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: wait on this one, but we have now. Yeah.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: With the polar bear, he had a lawn. So, you know,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: was there ever a player? There weren't too many other
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Mets that were loved more than that guy. You know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: I don't understand why they let him go. He was
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: willing to, you know, take below market value. I think
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: in 2025, he actually signed a one-year deal just to stay, uh,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: where is the loyalty?
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: Loyalty is one.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: Of those things that works kind of both ways. I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: remember there was another player that we got in the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: Nationals for a little while that was a beloved Met
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: who would get cheered every time he'd go back to
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Shea Stadium, Daniel Murphy. A great player. Built himself up.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: Maybe he wasn't a Hall of Famer, but he had
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: about four to five years that were just incredible. Cliff,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: I love you mentioning David Wright. He grew up three
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: miles from where I am right now. His son Danny
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: and my son Roy played high school ball together, and
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: he made sure that when he wasn't playing, he was
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: here in Chesapeake, Virginia. And Jason, I love that you
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: brought up Max Scherzer.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: He is wonderful. along with Jason.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: Worth, one of the guys that put the nationals on
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: the map, uh, without Max Scherzer, there is no world
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 4: series in DC. And, uh, he is still beloved when
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: he came back off the injured list. His first start
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: was at Nats park standing ovation to, uh, start.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: The game, uh, rumor.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: And I just picked this up, uh, off of, uh, from, uh,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: my friend Barry, uh, He's done after this season. He's
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: going to come back to D.C., sign a one-day contract,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: and retire as a national.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Who's this now?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 8: Scherzer?
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: Max Scherzer.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: Wow, I did not know that. Great stuff. Okay. He
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: won a World Series and paid him a lot of money,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: probably from the Tigers.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: Three no-hitters.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a great career. I'm glad to see
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: him sign one day. All right, let's go to our
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: feature topic of the night. We'll get to what we
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: can get. We have a travel segment we're going to
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: put in there as well. Clayton Kirk. Let's go to
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: our feature topic of the night. Clayton Kershaw will be
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: on the World Series roster. That was a year ago.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: Planned to retire after the season. Guess what? He won
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: a World Series and went out on top. What a
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: difference a year makes. He's now doing broadcasting. Let's talk
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: about the legacy of Clayton Kershaw. We'll start with you, John.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: My God.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: You know, you think of certain Dodgers. You think of Kershaw.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: You think of Oral Hershiser, Sandy Koufax, Fernando Valenzuela. God,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: they have got a lot of heritage, and he lived
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: up to every bit of it. He got three rings. Granted,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: he didn't play for one of them. He was on
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: the injured list. But three World Series rings, Cy Young,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: 223 victories. How many strikeouts? I think over 3,000. God,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: what a legacy. And you just wonder what Dodger pitcher
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: is going to carry on that legacy after Clayton.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: No question. All right, go ahead, Jason. Oh yeah.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: Hey, uh, John, that was a good point. Like I said, uh, he,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: he had the three world series. Uh, one was 20
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: and 24 last year. Um, 18 year career. I thought
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: it was really impressive was his, he had the three
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: Cy Young's, but his career era is 2.54. Uh, that's
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: pretty impressive. He, he's a little bit short of that
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 5: 300 wins or a lot of bit, but, uh, ZRA, uh,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: he also went to high school at Highland park with quarterback,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: Matt Stafford. Um, they both played grade school football at
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: the age of nine. Um, uh, just a great generational talent.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: You know, he had to, he had that yellow, I
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: call the yellow hammer, that curve ball. Uh, I call
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: it because Jim Price, former Tigers announcer used to say
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: that about curve balls, but you know, just, he's going
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: to be, he's definitely going to be, I would say
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: if he's not a first bad Hall of Famer, I
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: don't know.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: He's, he's definitely going there.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 5: Um, and, um, I think injuries kind of got to
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: him a little bit at the end of his career,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: but at the same time, you can't ask for, you
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: can't ask for one.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 7: Of the, one of the best Dodgers that ever played
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 7: the game. Yeah.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: Like, like, um, like a Fernando Venezuela, Sandy Colfax, you know,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: those type of left-handed pitchers you don't see every day.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 5: You don't see every day. And, uh, And you don't
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 5: see a Clayton Kershaw hanging around every day either. So
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: definitely an 18-year career, an excellent career. A lot of
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 5: respect for him and what he did as a baseball player.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: And I think he has a lot of charities off
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: the field too, he does. So definitely a lot of
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: respect there for Clayton Kershaw.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: Great career.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: One of the guys is a championship pitcher in one
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: of the World Series over there. The Dodgers, he's one
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: of those few players that stayed in with one team
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: his entire career, give them that much at least. And now,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: and now he's making a name for himself in broadcasting.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: I think with NBC and I think he's with NBC,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Peacock or one of those networks. So, you know, more
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: power to him. All right, go ahead. Go ahead, Cliff.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: One or two more topics to get to. Let's go
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: around the horn. Go ahead, Cliff.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Clayton Kershaw. Oh my gosh. Slam dunk. He is,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: he's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind, he's going to be
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: first ballot. It's, it's, it's, It's not going to happen. So,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, to do it for that long. And the
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: only reason he didn't get 300 wins is because baseball changed.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: Baseball changed with the Royals taking people out all the time.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't have mattered what generation he was in. He
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: would have been a great pitcher, period. And if it
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: was like the generation before, he would have gotten 300
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: wins because baseball People stayed in longer. They didn't take
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: people out all the time. He's just happened to be
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: in that beginning of that generation when they stopped, you know,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: stopped using pitchers as long and stuff. It's it's yeah.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: Clayton Karsha is just why he's just someone in the
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: last 18 years, like the last couple of decades. It
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: is a premier pitcher. Just totally a total class total.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: This is what you want to see. Not many players
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: stay with one team. He did, like you said. That's
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: amazing to be able to stay there. He is a L.A.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Dodger through and through. Clayton Kershaw, I can't say enough
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: nice things about this guy. He's earned his way into Cooperstown,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: and it's great that he's doing so well on the
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: TV side because he has a lot to give. He
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: knows a lot about pitching. He can probably– he'd probably
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: tell you, I've never watched him, but he could probably
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: tell you, uh, what, how, maybe how he'd pitch people,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: or you might know these guys. He's like, Oh, um,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: or to be able to give a scouting report on
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: pretty much a good chunk of, uh, the guys in the, uh,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: in baseball. And it's like, I, you know, Oh, I'm
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: going to pitch against him. He'd probably get them out too.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: We're using that strategy. Um, but yeah, it's, yeah, it's, he,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: Clayton Kershaw. Oh my gosh. He's one of the best
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: pitchers in the last couple of decades. And, uh, It's
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: a slam dunk Hall of Famer. Absolute slam dunk. I'm
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: happy for him.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: All right, Rob, go ahead.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, what more could I say? He is
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 6: going to be our first ballot Hall of Famer. And
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: if he's not, there's something wrong with the system. There's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: something wrong with the baseball riders. But we've seen it
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: happen before. Scott with Utero, right? Not getting 100% when
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: he should have. So you never know what these riders
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: are going to do. But great pitcher, and he's definitely,
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: I feel, he's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, go.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 8: Ahead. Yeah, during the regular season, I mean, no one
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 8: can hit him at all. I mean, that 12-6 curveball
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 8: is the filthiest curveball ever. I mean, you can just
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 8: see it on TV. It looks, it's unbelievable. No one can.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 8: in the history of baseball, in my opinion, has that
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 8: kind of path. But he only has two World Series titles.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 8: 2020 does not count. That's in my book. That does
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 8: not count. So as far as postseason, the guy's a
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 8: choke artist. And he got his little breakthrough in, what, 2024? No, 2023. Yeah, 2024,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: he got his World Series ring. Okay, cool. And he
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 8: got happy in 2020. Great. But, I mean, yeah, he's
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 8: going to be a first-bound Hall of Famer, of course.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 8: But when it comes to pitching against pitchers, specifically Madison Bumgarner, yeah,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: he likes to give up a little bit of a
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 8: grand slam there. So, eh. But, yeah, that was a fluke.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: But, yeah.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, the guy can hit, too. He also
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 8: had a grand slam of his own. But, yeah, I mean,
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 8: as far as a regular season pitcher, yeah, he's incredible.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: Giants fandom is coming through there.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 8: Just a tad bit right there.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Just a little bit there.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I know he is a great guy. He is
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: a huge– I mean, he is the– Oh, he's such
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 8: a great father. I love everything that he does for
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 8: his kids. I love the fact that he brings his
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 8: kids to BP and he brought his kids to BP
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 8: and let them hit and just let them get the
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 8: experience that he, that they got and they were able
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 8: to get. I love that for every single player and
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 8: family that's in the major leagues that they are able
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 8: to make that happen is such a cool thing to see.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: I love that. And yeah, of course I've what, Said
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 8: this three or four times already. He's going to be
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 8: in the Hall of Fame.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, we'll turn it over to Candy.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 9: He is one of 20 pitchers and four left-handers to
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 9: be members of the 3000 Strikeout Club. Him and the
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 9: one thing that I really like about him off the field,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 9: he participates in volunteer work. He and his wife, Ellen,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 9: launched Kershaw's Challenge and wrote the book Arise. Live out
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 9: your faith and dreams on whatever field you find yourself.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 9: To raise money to build an orphanage in Zambia. I
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 9: thought that's pretty cool. He also received the Roberto Clemente
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 9: Award and Branch Rickey Awards for his humanitarian work. So,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 9: off the field, he did some really great things. On
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 9: the field, obviously, to pitch 18 seasons with one player.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 9: to pitch 18 seasons, not just, you know, play a position.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 9: We talk about how many people and how many arms
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 9: and this injury and that injury, but to do it
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 9: for 18 seasons for one organization, even if it is
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 9: the Dodgers, it's pretty impressive.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I see the Milwaukee Brewers sarcasm coming
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: out of you because they've been your roadblock. All right.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Probably one or two more sports topics and we hit travel.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about James Dolan's portfolio in sports,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: which consists of the Westchester Knicks, New York Rangers, New
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: York Knicks, and the Hartford Wolfpack. Let's just go over
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: it briefly because I want to get one other one
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: if I can, then we've got travel. What are your thoughts, John,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: about his portfolio in sports?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: Well, I think he needs to add a couple of sports.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: I think he probably needs to add an NFL team
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: and a Major League Baseball team.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 3: You know, he's got to catch up with Stan Kroenke.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: That's good. I like that. Stan Kroenke is on a roll.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jason.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, James Dolan, his son, Quentin Dolan, took
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: over the Hartford Wolf Pack and the Rangers, you know,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: day-to-day activities. I'm not sure if it's his health or not.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: James is 71 years old. His younger son is 32.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: So this could be a good thing. I think maybe
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: he's showing his son some– The ropes here is, you know,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: what an executive looks like, what kind of, you know,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: activities they do.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 8: And if.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: It helps, his son has a degree in event management.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: and uh he went to new york university so um
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: this could be a good thing for for james he's
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 5: just kind of passing the torch a little bit kind
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 5: of like kind of like a mike chris sillage thing
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: kind of sort of So, yeah, I think this is
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: a good thing for the organization and what the Dolans
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: are trying to do.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: And Chris Drury, he's the.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: President and GM of the Rangers at the moment.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 7: But we'll see. I think this is a good thing.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: For them and James to kind of pass the torch
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 5: a little bit to kind of give that background.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Cliff.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: Well, he was my boss at one time when I
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: used to work at News 12 Long Island.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: Because his dad created Cablevision and HBO and AMC and
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of other things. So that's where he
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: got all that from. His dad was brilliant. His brother
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: was my news director at News 12 Long Island. I've
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: actually met Pat, James Dolan. He came in a few
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: times for news things to hang out with the little people.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: I've never been all that impressed with him. Yeah, they
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: finally won the Knicks. They finally won. How long did
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: that take? He got everything he got because his dad
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: created cable. Hey, you get who you get for your family.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: He hit the jackpot. And that's why he has what
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: he has.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: So I've never been all that impressed. I didn't get
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: paid all that well when I worked there, even though
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: I lived on Long Island. That's TV news in general. But, yeah,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: they kept using stupid excuses like, oh, we think of
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: it as Buffalo. I'm like, oh, my gosh, it's not
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: the same. Anyway, but, yeah, yeah, he should. Yeah, well,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: he's given his kid. Oh, here, have the Rangers have the.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: Have the Wolfpack.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, great.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: You know what they should do? They should move the
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: Wolfpack to Syracuse. The Tampa Bay Lightning should make Atlanta
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: their AHL affiliate. I'm tired of this. They took the
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: Hartford market when the Whalers left.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: Because the Rangers don't try to. What they do is
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: they try to destroy all remnants of any other history
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: of hockey in the area. They want to dominate it. Yeah,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: and they should just go to Syracuse. No, I don't
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: want him buying any other team. I have my own
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: personal things with them. I'm not very impressed with him
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: at all. It took forever to get that title, and
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: they're pretty much losers for a while there. In general,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: for the sports thing, he finally got it after finally hiring.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: He did make the hire to get the guy. to
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: get it together and get the right coach. And they
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: brought the players in. And he never had a really
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: great reputation prior to that. If you remember him sticking
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: his tongue out at Latrell Sprewell, that whole thing. What
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: grown adult does that? They also used to have Radio
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: City Music Hall. They used to have– remember Nobody Beats
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: the Wiz? They used to own that. I actually used
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: to get a discount for that. because I was an
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: employee there and used to get free cable, which was cool. But, yeah, whatever.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Jim Dolan.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: All right, well, whatever.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: Over to Rob.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: All right, we're going to talk about Dolan owning those
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: four entities.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he don't need anything else. I agree with Cliff.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: He got everything because of his father, Charles Dolan, because
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: of Cablevision. He inherited control of the Rangers and Knicks,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: and People couldn't stand him in New York for the
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: longest time, all right? I mean, now that the Knicks won,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 6: you know, it's a little different. It's just how people are,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: you know? Give them a winner, and then everything's all right.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: But for all these years, people, especially in New York,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: they could not stand James Dolan at all. Couldn't stand
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 6: him on all the sports radio. Everybody would complain about him. And,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: you know, he was just, he was born with the,
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: with the not silver spoon, the gold spoon in his mouth. Okay.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: And that's why he is where he is. So I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: agree with Cliff. I don't think he needs to buy
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: any more franchises or have anything else. Just do whatever
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: you're going to do with what you got.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 8: He's been given everything from his dad. It's, it's only
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 8: going to get worse for New York. It seems like it's,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, there's going to be no, the connection's clear.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 8: It's going to be within the family that all this
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 8: management and all this high, um, CEO and just presidential
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 8: connection is going to be brought down. It's, it's going
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 8: to be within the Dolan family. It's, that's becoming very
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 8: apparent now that Quinton has taken over some of this, um,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 8: some of these larger steps that, uh, James is just saying, Hey,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 8: can you oversee this? Can you do this? And, and
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 8: James is trying to do more things like creating the
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 8: sphere in Las Vegas. Like, Holy cow. Like it's, I mean,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 8: that's the biggest venue in the country right now, probably
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 8: the world. And, um, he's, yeah, it's, it's not his
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 8: money at all. He's just, he's just, he's trying to
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 8: create another empire. He's trying to expand on the empire
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 8: that was already created by his father and trying to
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 8: get accustomed to the times that we live in, which
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 8: is kind of, I hate to say it, but getting
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: away from community involvement and getting away from, um, it's
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 8: all about profit. And if, um, like, uh, Cliff said, uh,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 8: working in television, if, um, There's going to be a
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 8: way to make the budget smaller or to cut someone's
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 8: budget and help out the profit margin. It's going to happen.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 8: And that's the way these owners and these CEOs are
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 8: making it happen. It's not going to change. I don't
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: know when it's going to.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 8: It's not going to change because they're just being passed
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 8: down from generation to generation inside the family.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: And he sold Cablevision to a place called Altice.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's turn over to Candy before we go ahead
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: and hit some travel. I got to do a travel. Candy,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: do you have any videos handy at all tonight or not?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 9: I mean, I'll get one. You just give me a
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 9: little bit of time. Yeah, that's fine.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, give me your thoughts on this last thing
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: here about Dolan's Empire real quick. We'll get to the travel,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: and we'll proceed from there.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 9: He was handed things. He's actually had failed businesses himself.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 9: So if he wants to own some of these teams,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: obviously these teams.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: Aren't going to fold.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 9: Let's face it. But he also was involved with a
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 9: lawsuit with former Knicks executive. He lost. He had to pay.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: So....
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll leave it at that.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to our travel topic of the night.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: The 10 best destinations to travel at Christmas. Why am
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: I doing it now? If you like these places, you
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: better start booking your tickets soon. Okay, then we'll go
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: from there. Well, Rob lives in one of them, New
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: York and the United States. Everybody knows about Times Square
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: and all that. Paris, France. I can only imagine what
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: that would look like during Christmas. London, the United Kingdom.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: Been there. Been the first three. Then we have Zurich,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: Switzerland falls in there. And then from there you have Rovaniemi, Finland.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Haven't been there. Sydney, Australia. I can only imagine what
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: it looks like down under. Vienna, Austria pops the list. Rome,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Italy pops the list. Prague of the Czech Republic is
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: on the list. And there you have it. So, All right,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: so give me the one or two that stand out
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: that you probably want to go ahead and put on
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: your bucket list. John?
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  Speaker 4: Let me tell you about Christmas in Singapore. They start
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  Speaker 4: decorating tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 4: You go down to Orange, you go to any part
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  Speaker 4: of Singapore, and it is going to be plastic and
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  Speaker 4: metal snow, you know, 90-degree heat. But you're going to
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  Speaker 4: see snowflakes all over Singapore. Another place, Sydney. I've been there,
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  Speaker 4: done that. Heaven on Earth is on the western part.
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  Speaker 4: A rugby pitch, Cottesloe, Western Australia, just north of Perth.
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  Speaker 4: You have a stone wall with a clubhouse on top.
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  Speaker 4: A rugby pitch with the softest grass that you've ever
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  Speaker 4: been tackled on.
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  Speaker 3: A golf course.
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  Speaker 4: Course, and then the Indian Ocean and a place to surf.
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  Speaker 4: If that's not heaven, I don't know what is.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. Take one or two that stand out.
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  Speaker 7: I'd say where John's going there.
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  Speaker 1: I'll take none out of this group. I'll take none.
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  Speaker 7: I'll take where John's going there. Australia. Is that where
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  Speaker 7: you said, John? Is that where that is?
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  Speaker 1: Sydney?
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  Speaker 3: Perth, Western Australia. Perth, Western Australia.
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  Speaker 5: Man, I'm telling you, that's always been on a bucket
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  Speaker 5: list for myself, just Australia. Finland, that sounds like it
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  Speaker 5: might be an interesting place there. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: hockey ties that a lot of guys play in the NHL. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I like that. But I'm interested to go in anywhere
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  Speaker 5: I haven't been, so anything is good for me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Cliff. Italy. Italy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually half Italian. I've always wanted to go back
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  Speaker 2: and I would love to see, see that, see that
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  Speaker 2: in Christmas. Cause I've seen, I commuted, I'm from New
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  Speaker 2: York and I commuted back and forth for work for
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  Speaker 2: New York. So, and I was right by Rockefeller center.
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  Speaker 2: So I got, I got my fill of the whole
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  Speaker 2: Christmas in New York thing. It's nice.
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  Speaker 1: It's cool.
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  Speaker 2: It's cool when we do it, but I've done it. So,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, so Rome, Italy.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Rob.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Christmas in New York City is just normal for me,
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  Speaker 6: you know. But for other people who haven't been there,
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  Speaker 6: they should do it at least once. Rome, I love Rome.
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  Speaker 6: And Switzerland, I've been to both. And Switzerland looked great
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  Speaker 6: at Christmastime. But Australia is on my bucket list. And
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  Speaker 6: that's where I would love to check it out during Christmas.
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  Speaker 6: Or not even Christmas, anytime.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Lucas.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, Sydney would sound a lot of fun, but skiing
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  Speaker 8: in Finland would be, sounds really enticing on Christmas. So
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to have to pick that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Candy, obviously I like her bucket list because I
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  Speaker 1: can kind of figure out where we're going to go.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, and then she'll put a video and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll be done.
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  Speaker 9: What I would say is I've, I lived in Wisconsin
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  Speaker 9: for over 40 years during Christmas. I have now lived
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 9: in Florida for, what, 14 years for Christmas. It does
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 9: not feel like Christmas down here when it's warm. It
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 9: does not. So if you're going to go someplace for Christmas,
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 9: it's got to be someplace that has snow and kind
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 9: of cold because you're visiting it. So I think I'd
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  Speaker 9: like to go to Finland for that. I mean, I
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  Speaker 9: don't know. There's a lot of different places, but I
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  Speaker 9: think someplace cold where you can really celebrate Christmas really
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  Speaker 9: get the feel for Christmas. At least that's what Christmas is.
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  Speaker 9: Part of what Christmas is for me.
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  Speaker 1: And for me, I wouldn't mind going back to Paris
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get a taste of Finland before I put
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  Speaker 1: Finland in the Christmas discussion. All right, Candy, you got
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: a quick video we can put up and you and
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: Rob will go ahead and preview a little bit about
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: what's going on for Monday. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 9: Yep, here we go. I'm going to put this one up.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody.
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  Speaker 10: This is from the scenic mountain. This is the city
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  Speaker 10: of Balboa beneath us. We're at the top of the
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  Speaker 10: mountain here. Beautiful area.
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  Speaker 8: Beautiful area. Here's Balboa.
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  Speaker 10: Scenic like you wouldn't believe. They let you know what
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 10: it is because, look, it even says Balboa on all
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 10: along the walkway here. From there, you saw the earlier
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  Speaker 10: with the handprint. You have these walkways that you can
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 10: go through. Just a beautiful scenic area, park area that
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 10: you can just really relax. It's so quiet up here
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 10: for the buses. Beautiful area. South Florida Tribune in Balboa, Spain.
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  Speaker 1: All right, there you have it. Rob, you and Candy
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: have about a... 90 seconds or so this picture takes
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: about Monday night. Not what we did last Monday, but
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: probably what you're doing this Monday. Who takes over?
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  Speaker 6: It's the fastest half hour, right? With our travel show,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: it goes by really fast. And Candy, is it what
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 6: you just sent me? 10 places in the USA that
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: generally feel like another planet? Because that sounds pretty cool.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, Our lists have been pretty, you know,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: our list shows have been pretty good. We're getting some
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: good views on it. And it's a lot of fun.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 6: And I'm telling you, it makes the show fly by. Right, Candy?
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 9: Last week we talked about the top 10 luxury train
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 9: journeys that you can take. So, yeah, this next week
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 9: I think we're going to do the 10 places in
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 9: the USA that genuinely feel like you're on another planet.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 9: So tune in to find out. 7.15 Eastern Time, Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: I got the hat on. I like the man wearing
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: that hat. Beautiful stuff. With that said, I had time
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: for one person to give a parting shot. John, go
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: ahead and lead off.
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  Speaker 4: We will see you tomorrow night on Sports Rep and next.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 3: Week on Sports Exchange. Until then, we'll have fun.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: I like parting shots when they promote. I'll tell you,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: this guy is getting this thing down fast. Okay, Jason,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: All right, you can catch me here at 9 to
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: 11 Eastern Time on Sports Exchange with Scott, the Motor
• 1:54:19
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• 1:54:23
  Speaker 7: And these awesome... journalists. I love being on here every week, guys.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 7: It's so much fun.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 5: I started on here with you guys in July and
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 5: can't be much happier. And you can also find me
• 1:54:37
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• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Glad to have you on here. Okay, Lucas, I thought
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: you were a rising star. I like some of the
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: passion energy with some of these topics tonight. Good stuff.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 8: You've given me something to look forward to every Wednesday night, man.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, you can catch me here 9 to 11
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 8: on Sports Exchange and also on Instagram. It's Lens Through
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 8: Lucas and same handle on YouTube. And Facebook is Lucas Nelson. And, yeah,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 8: this is a great way to end my Wednesday night
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 8: and start up my week. So thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're delighted to have you. Okay, Cliff.
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  Speaker 2: You can reach me here every Wednesday night at 9
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: o'clock on the Sports Exchange with Scott Morganroth. I can
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: also be found on Facebook as Cliff Neal and on Instagram, CliffNeal55. So, yeah,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: you want to spout about sports or something, I'll do
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: that with you.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Sounds great. Good job. I enjoy your rants. I think
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: they're great. I like it when I go at you,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: but I don't always have to do it because you're
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: a show by yourself. All right, Rob, go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Monday night, the travel show. But I want to
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 6: plug my show, NYMLB Talk, this Friday night at 9 p.m.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: We're going to have a great guest, former Yankee and
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 6: Padre chief Gene Locklear and author Jay Thomas will be
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 6: on the show at 9 p.m. A lot of fun.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 6: Chief has a lot of great stories. about his playing
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 6: days with the Padres and Yankees. It's going to be
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 6: a lot of fun.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: Great stuff. All right, Candy, take us the rest of
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: the way. Got about a minute or two. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Great job, everybody in the group. I love having every
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: one of you, all seven. Six, not just one of them.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: My goal is just to steer the ship and make
• 1:57:31
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• 1:57:37
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• 1:57:40
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• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: what can I say? This guy's unbelievable, and I'm looking
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: forward to seeing his development as well. Candy, what can
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: I say? You're a true pro in every sense.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 8: Of the word.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Cliff, today, a fine guy like him. I enjoyed his
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: rants and beating up on him, but tonight I didn't
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: need to do it. He had a lot of energy,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: and Rob, while he's steady, is all it can be.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: What can I say? That's it for this edition of
• 1:58:04
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• 1:58:07
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• 1:58:09
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• 1:58:11
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  Speaker 8: Thank you, everybody.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us. And we'll be
• 1:58:19
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• 1:58:21
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• 1:58:26
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• 1:58:28
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  Speaker 5: Night.
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