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Episode 219. Halloween’s Dark History: What Are We Really Celebrating? | Gary Wayne · Wake Up with Miya

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  Speaker 1: He's got pale skin, like he's dead, just as Rapha
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  Speaker 1: can mean a giant and the dead. He has teeth
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  Speaker 1: of a cobra. Well, if that sounds familiar, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Nagas and the words used for the rulers are related
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  Speaker 1: to the cobra snake. And the cobra image is the
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  Speaker 1: image that the pharaohs were applying as well as they
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  Speaker 1: put on their headdress. We have that. dress that comes
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  Speaker 1: down and it's got those things like that's the cobra hood.
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  Speaker 1: So they're trying to bring back their immortality and to
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  Speaker 1: be more godlike because the smarter you are, the more
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  Speaker 1: intelligence and the knowledge you have. Those are the two
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  Speaker 1: pillars of godhood and polytheism, immortality and unlimited knowledge. Now
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  Speaker 1: we have this imagery that is suggesting that there's a
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  Speaker 1: connection between the allegory of Dracula, who's a royal, and
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  Speaker 1: the patriarchal allegory of the dragon, Where.
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  Speaker 2: Did Halloween come from, and what are the roots behind
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  Speaker 2: the traditions we still practice today? And perhaps the biggest question,
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  Speaker 2: should Christians be celebrating Halloween at all? Well, today I'm
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  Speaker 2: sitting down once again with Gary Wayne, author of Genesis
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  Speaker 2: 6 Conspiracy and Genesis 6 Conspiracy Part 2, as we
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  Speaker 2: explore the lore and history of Halloween, its ancient roots,
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  Speaker 2: and how Gary connects it back to biblical times. And
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  Speaker 2: make sure you watch to the end because Gary gets
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  Speaker 2: into the origins behind many of the Halloween traditions we
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  Speaker 2: see today and answers some of the questions you may
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  Speaker 2: have about what they actually mean. Before we get into it,
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  Speaker 2: make sure you subscribe, hit that notification bell, and give
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  Speaker 2: us a thumbs up. And please share this episode with
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  Speaker 2: someone who would love to hear this. And for my
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  Speaker 2: plus side members, Gary stayed on for a few extra
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  Speaker 2: questions after the interview, so there's a little extra there
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  Speaker 2: waiting for you. Now let's get into the conversation I
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  Speaker 2: had with Gary Wayne. Enjoy the show. How have you been?
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  Speaker 1: Super, super, super busy. I'm still trying to organize myself here,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to make sure I got nothing out
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  Speaker 1: that's not supposed to be being seen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't have something in my teeth.
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  Speaker 2: No, you look great. You always look great.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, no, I can't complain. I've been very, very
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  Speaker 1: busy and things are going quite well. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of crazy. I just can't believe
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  Speaker 1: things sort of continue. And it's great. Although nothing touches
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  Speaker 1: that one. out of place the show we did in
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  Speaker 1: terms of size right I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Five million over five.
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  Speaker 1: Million I know 5.2 or 5.3 the last time I
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  Speaker 1: checked a few months ago looks like it might have
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  Speaker 1: plateaued to yeah but.
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  Speaker 2: You jinxed it by saying you wondered when it's going
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  Speaker 2: to plateau and what that number would be. I'm thinking, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's never going to plateau, but it seems like it has.
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  Speaker 1: It may go for another cycle yet, but you know
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  Speaker 1: what the thing is? It's not like it was showing
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  Speaker 1: up on a lot of YouTube. That's anything that I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking on in terms of YouTube, in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: they present in front of me, I get all these
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  Speaker 1: other ones, but I never, ever had that one show
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  Speaker 1: up on YouTube, but yet it had the most views
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube. So yeah, I don't, I don't have, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have one that's close to that. I've got several
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  Speaker 1: that are, you know, a little over half, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: but no, that's just, it's absolutely crazy. I mean, not
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  Speaker 1: many podcasts do a 5 million viewership. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I know that's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Far between for anybody. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That, I don't know what it was with that one,
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  Speaker 2: but let's hope we hit that with this one too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Always, always hope because you never know what's going to,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like we don't talk about really good topics.
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  Speaker 2: Something with that one just kind of, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just went sort of viral in terms of, But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it did have an interesting title, like the
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  Speaker 1: Giants of Gaza, right? And it was at the time
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  Speaker 1: of the war. And Gog of Magog.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully this one does the same way. So my
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  Speaker 1: sound and my lighting is fine. Any adjustments I need
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  Speaker 1: to make? Nope.
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  Speaker 2: You look great. Sounds great. Everything's good. I can see
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  Speaker 2: the books in the background.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. I noticed you do a fair bit of
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  Speaker 1: shows with Jesse. I forgot to mention it the last time. Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: She's another vault of knowledge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Maybe we can have you guys together. I've
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  Speaker 2: seen shows that you guys do together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And no, yeah, that would be fine. And
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  Speaker 1: we seem to, you know, cross-link quite well in terms
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  Speaker 1: of our research. Obviously, she can go deeper from the
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  Speaker 1: family side and inside the society. Yeah, in a different way.
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  Speaker 1: In a different way, yeah, from more religious sort of way,
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  Speaker 1: which is really kind of, interesting so yeah.
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  Speaker 2: She does a lot of the um symbolism and sigils
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  Speaker 2: um of the um uh what do you call it
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  Speaker 2: this like the state seal or the city seals and
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  Speaker 2: she talks about that so which is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah because all of that's important to how they run
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  Speaker 1: the world everything that's what's why it's uh i like
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  Speaker 1: i like working with her so yeah i kind of
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  Speaker 1: met her um working with George Eisman on the Reveal Report.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, yes. She goes on that show all
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  Speaker 2: the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she does. Yeah, she used to be the co-host,
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  Speaker 1: but I think she's gotten to be too busy now,
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  Speaker 1: which is a good thing. And she does do a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other things. She writes a lot of books, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I would guest with Jessie anytime.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, awesome. Maybe I'll try to hook that up.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be great. Okay, well, we can get started if
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  Speaker 2: you're ready.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So make sure I'm on record.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Aloha, Gary, and welcome. It's been six months or so
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  Speaker 2: since we've last sat down together, and I'm so happy
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  Speaker 2: to have you back. Our Gog of Magog interview has
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  Speaker 2: reached over 5 million views. It's incredible. That conversation really
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  Speaker 2: connected with people, and I'm excited to see where this
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  Speaker 2: one takes us. And with Halloween coming up, I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to get into Dracula, vampire, Lilith, and some other darker
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  Speaker 2: legends and their possible connection to biblical, to the Bible. So,
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  Speaker 2: but before we get into all that, please catch us up.
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  Speaker 2: What have you been up to? Which have you been
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  Speaker 2: working on this past six months and where can people
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  Speaker 2: find your books and all of that stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So thank you for inviting me back. And so
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  Speaker 1: happy to be here. The only thing that I would
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  Speaker 1: attribute to why, the Gog and Magog and Giants of
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  Speaker 1: Gaza show would have done so well would be is
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  Speaker 1: that I did that from the lake where I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: doing any video. So they only had your face on there.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that might be the attraction. I might
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  Speaker 1: be the ones chasing people away. It's the only thing
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  Speaker 1: I can sort of think of, but been very, very
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  Speaker 1: busy over the summer and had a number of things
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  Speaker 1: that were, you know, sort of sidetracking and also doing
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  Speaker 1: shows and, And everything else that goes on in life.
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  Speaker 1: So we finally, after a long, hard push, got the
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  Speaker 1: Audible version up for the Oprimo conspiracy for the third book.
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  Speaker 1: And we got stuck there because we had had it
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  Speaker 1: ready in May and that book had released in April.
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  Speaker 1: So that would have been a lot sort of better
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  Speaker 1: timely release. But even though we produced it with Amazon,
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  Speaker 1: we used their readers. They thought it was AI and
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't put it up. And we couldn't negotiate our
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  Speaker 1: way through it, except that we do have the rights
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  Speaker 1: for it now. And so we put that up on
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  Speaker 1: other platforms for the three voice version. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: we had to do and select a reader for, and
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  Speaker 1: we decided to only do it with one reader and
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  Speaker 1: not complicate it for Amazon. And we didn't use them
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  Speaker 1: as well. We wanted it just to be a clean resubmission.
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  Speaker 1: And then Amazon accepted that, which makes no sense. The
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  Speaker 1: one that is part of their Amazon Audible platform, they rejected.
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  Speaker 1: And so anyways, that and the interesting sort of thing
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  Speaker 1: back and forth and still is ongoing to certain cases.
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  Speaker 1: There's a bloodline of family that is out there that's very,
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  Speaker 1: very old that I did use as a source in
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  Speaker 1: book two. was trying to get me to stop and
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  Speaker 1: desist and talking about those bloodlines. And so very powerful,
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  Speaker 1: rich family. And of course they have a lot of money,
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  Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter whether or not they're accurate or not,
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  Speaker 1: they can put enough money at it. And, but we've
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  Speaker 1: been able to push them back and we continue to
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  Speaker 1: push them back. And so, yeah, But, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: you're getting some pushback, you know, you're probably targeting quite well.
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  Speaker 1: You're over the target site. And we quote them accurately.
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  Speaker 1: I always do if I quote somebody. So, yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: that's not going to stop us from moving forward. And
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  Speaker 1: so we continue to move forward and really looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to the topic tonight as we enter into the Halloween season.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. All right, Gary, let's get into the questions, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: been waiting for so when people hear vampire they usually
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  Speaker 2: think of dracula movies the halloween stuff but how far
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  Speaker 2: do these legends go and is there a biblical connection.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, vampires have been with us throughout our
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  Speaker 1: history and all cultures around the world. So it's part
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  Speaker 1: of that, whether you look at the flood, whether or
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  Speaker 1: not you look at giants, you look at pyramids, and
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  Speaker 1: on and on and on, you have this irreconcilable with
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  Speaker 1: logic in math, how allegedly disparate civilizations that had no
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  Speaker 1: communication both before and after the flood could have the
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  Speaker 1: same stories it it's just not sort of possible but
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  Speaker 1: yet it's the case and so we understand the vampire
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  Speaker 1: story today more of a cartoon sort of manner sort
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  Speaker 1: of a entertainment versus cartoon but it's in the cartoons
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  Speaker 1: as well um some of them and uh And it
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  Speaker 1: was sort of reintroduced on a real massive way over
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  Speaker 1: a hundred years ago with Bram Stoker's Dracula. And so
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  Speaker 1: if we understand that this is a world of polytheism
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  Speaker 1: and we live in a world and swim and breathe
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  Speaker 1: in this world of a Gentile sea that governs this world,
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  Speaker 1: then we should understand that all of this type of
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  Speaker 1: imagery that we receive, whether or not it's in books
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  Speaker 1: or in movies or in holidays, then we will understand
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  Speaker 1: that there's a source that they are telling us their
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  Speaker 1: history and their belief systems in plain sight. We're just
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  Speaker 1: not educated enough to understand the symbolism that's embedded into
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  Speaker 1: this type of work that keeps their history and religions alive.
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  Speaker 1: So When we look at the vampire, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: need to look at it as a couple of lines.
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  Speaker 1: And we need to look at it not just from
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  Speaker 1: the standard vampire of Dracula as a patriarchal bloodline of
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  Speaker 1: the occult, but we also need to look at it
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  Speaker 1: as a vampire-associated matriarchal bloodline. and that the allegories kind
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  Speaker 1: of overlap. So, and as we look at the name
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  Speaker 1: Dracula as that main vampire, that is a word that
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  Speaker 1: is based on the Greek word dracont and draconta as
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  Speaker 1: in a watcher angel. And now we have the imagery
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  Speaker 1: of that watcher as a seraphim because it's also a
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  Speaker 1: dragon as you have the derivative of those words. In
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  Speaker 1: Seraphim were dragon, serpent-faced, six-winged angels. And so now you're
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  Speaker 1: having an allegory that is essentially associating it with the
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  Speaker 1: dragon allegory with a male celestial mafia godfather, as I
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  Speaker 1: like to tongue-in-cheek say about the fallen angels. And that
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  Speaker 1: this is an ancient sort of allegory that has a
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  Speaker 1: lot of different meanings as does the matriarchal line so
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  Speaker 1: I think what I'll do because it's more common with
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  Speaker 1: the understanding of vampires more associated with a Dracula like
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  Speaker 1: a character but we'll work that back into the connections
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  Speaker 1: and again it becomes quite startling with the imagery and
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  Speaker 1: the allegory you know that's there so as we look
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  Speaker 1: at sort of the basis for this kind of imagery,
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  Speaker 1: we have a few words that come out of the
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  Speaker 1: original giant languages of Indo-European and Sanskrit and the Avestan
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  Speaker 1: Indo-Iranian or Indo-Aryan languages of Persia. Those are the kind
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  Speaker 1: of the three main branches, but all the original languages
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  Speaker 1: have a these words that are in, that show up
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  Speaker 1: in the modern languages, doesn't matter whether or not it's
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  Speaker 1: German or it's English or wherever, it's carrying the history
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  Speaker 1: in the same sort of manner. So when we look
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  Speaker 1: at upiers, you know, it's the source word for like
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  Speaker 1: uber and uper. And part of the understanding of, the
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  Speaker 1: Scythian and Sarmatian, and the Sarmatians and the Scythians were
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  Speaker 1: dragon people, very much associated with that imagery, and the
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  Speaker 1: Tuatha de Danann, and that's their tradition of the vampire.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to see this show up in another
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  Speaker 1: kind of term, like in, as Uber is transliterated into
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  Speaker 1: German as Uber, U-B-E-R, right?
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  Speaker 2: As in the car? The taxi car?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as in that car, as in also as in
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  Speaker 1: like a superhuman, Uber, supernatural. And it also shows up
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  Speaker 1: in Old Gaelic and the languages of England as Uber
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  Speaker 1: as well. And it shows up as a transliteration of
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  Speaker 1: Oberon in Shakespeare as the king of the fairies. And
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  Speaker 1: of course, the Tuatha D'ud and then Scythian-related people are
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  Speaker 1: also the Fair Folk and the Fairies. And there's different
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  Speaker 1: separations of the fairy type of people. These would be
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  Speaker 1: the Shi people, the noble Celt, the noble elven bloodline,
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  Speaker 1: sort of as they're depicted in the Lord of the Rings.
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  Speaker 1: So understand that this goes back to not just to
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  Speaker 1: the time of the flood and afterwards, but also before,
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  Speaker 1: because the Tuatha Dé Danann, Shé, Sidé, Shé, all the
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  Speaker 1: different ways you want to pronounce that people are both
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  Speaker 1: before and after the flood in traditions all around the world.
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  Speaker 1: And so that is understood as a night operative vampire.
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  Speaker 1: that is being applied to Dracula, son of a dragon.
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  Speaker 1: The A on Dracul means son. So now we have
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of things, and this is a royal bloodline,
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  Speaker 1: a significant royal bloodline that is kept alive in its
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  Speaker 1: history for its membership into the Sarkhan Iran, the dragon court.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I write all about this in book one
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  Speaker 1: and book two for people who want to go into
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  Speaker 1: it deeper. But just to sort of give sort of
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  Speaker 1: the breadth of what I was talking about, how it's
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  Speaker 1: part of our common history around the world. Understand these
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  Speaker 1: types of beings were in all cultures all around the world.
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  Speaker 1: And these were associated with beings that drank blood. And so.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just now introduce that a strigoi is also Romanian
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  Speaker 1: for witch and is also a popular term for a vampire.
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  Speaker 1: But now we have an association with a female. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't say warlock in the definition. So understand strigoi is
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  Speaker 1: more sort of for both for sure. And for whatever reasons,
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  Speaker 1: the uber and upier is more of a patriarchal sort
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  Speaker 1: of connotation to it as it comes down to the
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  Speaker 1: overlords of the Scythian overlords right so patriarchal sort of
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  Speaker 1: understanding and it is also the source word strigoi for
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  Speaker 1: Latin for Strix S-T-R-I-X meaning a screech owl which we'll
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  Speaker 1: come back to because we're going to stay on the
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  Speaker 1: patriarchal aspect of it but all of a sudden now
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  Speaker 1: we've opened up like a lot of doors that just
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  Speaker 1: are in, you know, unexplainable. It's inexplicable how you could
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  Speaker 1: have this ancient sort of tradition and multiple languages talking
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  Speaker 1: about the two sort of allegories of female and male
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  Speaker 1: and whether or not these are, have anything to do
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  Speaker 1: as offspring of gods because son of a dragon, son of,
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  Speaker 1: A seraphim, son of a naga, son of a Uraeus god,
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  Speaker 1: feathered serpent god. I mean, we're all, we're talking the
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  Speaker 1: same sort of language here that the giants were created from.
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  Speaker 1: And so there's a tradition that goes back into history
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  Speaker 1: with the giants, offspring of the fallen angels and the
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  Speaker 1: gods and all cultures around the world that they drank blood.
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  Speaker 1: And there were the kings. So now we have a
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  Speaker 1: direct association to what's going on here in terms of
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  Speaker 1: how the allegory might be at play, because they use
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  Speaker 1: a similar understanding within their literature as they do with
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  Speaker 1: understanding the mythologies of history called humorism, where the adepts
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  Speaker 1: understand how to pull the history out of the narrative.
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  Speaker 1: And the narrative is the structure that carries their history,
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  Speaker 1: but it's embedded with places, names, things like that, that
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  Speaker 1: have allegorical meanings that only the adepts of the religions
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  Speaker 1: would understand. So now as we move that from how
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  Speaker 1: they encapsulated that into, let's say, Greek history, where humorism
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  Speaker 1: comes from, we understand with the writings of like Shakespeare
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  Speaker 1: that I dropped, or Bram Stoker's Dracula, this is something
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  Speaker 1: that is with us all of the time. And I
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  Speaker 1: also dropped Lord of the Rings. So put Tolkien in there.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to put Lewis in there. You can look
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  Speaker 1: at the entertainment history working on the same sort of
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  Speaker 1: platform that recorded the classics, both in Greek history, Sumerian history,
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  Speaker 1: Egyptian history, Roman history, and also... the writings of people
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  Speaker 1: like Shakespeare as it moves forward, right? So this is
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  Speaker 1: an MO, a modus operandi of hiding things in clear sight,
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  Speaker 1: but also maintaining that sort of oral tradition as it
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  Speaker 1: was originally created to keep that history. So as we
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  Speaker 1: look at what the giants did, they drank blood for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of reasons. One was in Genesis 6, 3,
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  Speaker 1: they were losing their immortality and life being limited in
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  Speaker 1: that body, in the physical body, not the immortal spirit.
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  Speaker 1: And so they were drinking blood both before and after
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  Speaker 1: the flood to have a longer life. And that's what
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: they believed. There was something, because there was life in
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the blood. And so that would give them longer life.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It would also give them better cognitive abilities. So not
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: only intellectually wise, wisdom wise, but spiritually wise. And better
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: connections because they were controlling the life spirit of the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: people of the blood that they were drinking. And the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: younger the being and more innocent, the more powerful that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: impact would have been. So now let's look at that
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: imagery of Dracula. He's got pale skin, like he's dead,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: just as Rafa can mean a giant and the dead, right?
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  Speaker 1: And he has teeth of a cobra. Well, if that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: sounds familiar, I mean, Nagas and the words used for
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the rulers are related to the cobra snake. And the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: cobra image is the image that the pharaohs were applying
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: as well as they put on their headdress. We have
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that dress that comes down and it's got those things
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: like that. That's the cobra hood. And again, reflecting the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Uraea's gods that were most plentiful within the pantheon. And
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: so they're trying to bring back their immortality and to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: be more God-like because the smarter you are, the more
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: intelligence and the knowledge you have, those are the two
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: pillars of Godhood and polytheism, immortality and unlimited knowledge. So
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden now we have this imagery that
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: is suggesting that there's a connection here between the allegory
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: of Dracula, who's a royal and the patriarchal allegory of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the dragon, that comes down through the royal bloodlines. And
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the other one is the fairy aspect of it, or
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the owl aspect of it. So dragon, raven, right? Fairy
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and owl. And of course, we have Sturgoy that is
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: suggesting a screech owl that Lilith would be recorded with.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And Lilith is also In some of the legends and traditions,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and there's more than one, but as a vampire-like being.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: And so this is part of the fairy allegory. And
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: we typically don't associate sort of the quickening spirit like
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: what we saw in the allegory of the Highlander series,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: where they were taking the life spirit through taking the head,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: which is how you kill a giant so that they
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: can't repair themselves. and taking on that spirit versus drinking
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: the blood where the spirit is located. So it's sort
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: of two different types of allegories, but one is just
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: encoded in the matriarchal aspect, and the other one is
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: encoded in the patriarchal aspect, but they both have the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: same meaning and the same sort of end. And also
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: related with giants, because there can only be one giant
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: ruling at the end, according to that sort of line
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of thought, which would be an Antichrist type figure. And
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: so you kill them by taking their heads like you
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: do a giant so that they can't repair themselves as
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we've talked about. And what's interesting is the spirits and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the life force that they're after here isn't necessarily human,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: but they would be looking for also control of the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: counterfeit spirits coming from the fallen angels to give them
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: even more power. So in the Highlander series, the spirits
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that they're capturing are are from giants and they can
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: harness that disembodied spirit and control them and add them
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: to it. Versus the humans, it would be more like
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: just sort of drinking blood and it would be short term.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So there seems to be a hierarchy of what would
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: self-serve them a little bit more. And how you get
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: there sort of biblically to understand that is that when
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: we die, we sleep. And our spirit goes back to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: heaven in this sleep-like state. I stopped that like five
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: or six hundred times where we're told we sleep. And
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: then I had so much more to go. So we'll
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: just say thousands. I have no idea. But it says
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: sleep that many times. But in storage in heaven. And
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: then when we're resurrected, whichever part dictated by how you
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: led your life and what your faith and belief was
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: from a biblical perspective, your resurrection would be one of
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the different resurrections of the resurrection sequence. Giants don't sleep
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: with their spirit. They become the demons, the disembodied spirits
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that either roam the earth or somehow make it through
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: the knowledge that they learned in time and their rituals
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: to go to the other world where their gods reign from.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Or they go to the pit prison because they're the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: most terrible of the giants. They're the terrible ones biblically.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And they'll be in the sides of the pit prison
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: with the fallen angels that were there who were the
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: procreators of the giants. And again, you want to get there,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: you go to Ezekiel 32 for the terrible ones. And
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: these are the mighty ones as well, as they're talked about,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: which are gibbering for the giants who did horrible things
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to humankind. And then they're in the sides of the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: pit prison and they're in their also with the strong.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: That's Hebrew El for angel. So both are in there.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And that's what's coming out of the pit prison when
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it's opened in Revelation 9. So just so we understand
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: the type of beings that we're talking about. And these
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: spirits don't sleep. Neither the fallen angels nor their counterfeit
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: spirits passed on through the creation of the giants. So
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: as we understand all of this, then we understand that
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: there's different levels of prey. So they also prey on
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: each other, but we should understand that because giants killed
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: each other as well as humans, right? And it's all
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: about the power and how much more physical and mental
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and spiritual strength they can take in. So who's Lilith? Well,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: we have, you know, a few different sort of understandings
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of who Lilith is. But as we link it into
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the allegory, she is the matrilineal inheritance of Melkut. Isn't
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: that an interesting title for Lilith, who isn't shown to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: be a god worshipped specifically in any of the pantheons,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: or at least as we would recognize. And so she's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: also understood as a grail queen. So she is part
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: of the allegories in the Grail stories as a Grail queen.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And of course you have Uther Pendragon, whose son is
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: King Arthur, Tuatha Dé Danann. And then you, and as
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the dragon allegory, and you also have Queen Guinevere, who
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: basically name is a name of a royale that I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: won't mention on the suffix. and a spirit, a she-people,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a banshee, and specifically a feat from an original sort
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: of female giant banshee. it was alive as part of
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: the she people. So a fairy queen, a god fairy
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: queen mother, right? It's all those allegories and they were
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: reflective of representing the gods on earth. And of course
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Excalibur being pulled by the stone by this new dynasty
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that's established, a huge dynasty with a lot of bloodlines,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: would be understood as introducing the new age of Atlantis.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go down that allegory, but understand
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: everything in the Grail stories has the same MO as
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: other literature. Why? Because it's written by the elite, the Elim,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the noble ones, the Aryans, The gentry, the genteel, they're
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: all words that go back to a specific genesis of
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: bloodlines who are the royals, the kings of God, the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: offspring of fallen angels. So understanding that she is a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: source for this, but not the source, and that she's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: also understood more within the, what I would call the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: fairy aspect than the dragons. but still part of the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: original dragon queen as it comes out of her mother, Tiamat.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: So Tiamat seems to be in one of the lines,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the mother of Lilith. So Lilith could be an offspring
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: god or it could be a demigod. And that's why
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it gets a bit confusing in understanding who she is.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: She's also understood as one of the queens of heaven,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: but all the other queens of heaven have a pantheon
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: they're worshipped in, whether or not it's Inanna or Astart, Astaroth,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the consort of Osiris, be safe with that one. All
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the pantheons, whether or not as a parent god, goddess,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: or an offspring goddess that rules after the flood versus
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the parent goddess ruling before the flood, they were understood
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: as the queen of heaven. So, and an allegory for
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the true queen of heaven, which would be above the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: parent gods. So it would be like equivalent to a
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: female consort of Satan, like Sophia in Gnosticism and depicted
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in ways that the queen of heaven is depicted as well.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And the same imagery that shows up in Revelation 12
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: used for a different purpose, but the same sort of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: aspects or a Mary apparition. So as we understand Lilith,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: she also goes back to, you know, as a father of,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that is, Lilu or Alu. So again, you could take
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that back as well as being an offspring god or
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a demigod. And she's also equivalent to like a demon
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and an angel, depending on how you want to understand
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the Lamashtu goddess of Anuf. And seemingly might be an
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: offspring of Anu as well. But there are different sort
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of versions of this. And she's also a daughter of,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I won't go into all the other different goddesses and things.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I think I'm digging a little bit too deep into
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the minutiae for people here. But she's depicted as an
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: angel with wings. So this would not be a demon
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: spirit as a demigod. So how I sort of look
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: at this is there's, because she's a queen of heaven,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that's a goddess title. So I think there's two beings
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: because Lilith as a vampire and a bloodline that comes
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: out of Tiamat and the whole Grail King sort of
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: lineages and associated with the vampire line as Lilith is,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: then I would associate the lower level as being this
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: demon spirit associated with vampires that is drinking blood for
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the same reasons that the original male bodily spirit would be.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I get there with the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: two aspects of Lilith. And then, you know, also understand
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Lilith shows up in the Bible. as the screech owl
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: in the book of Isaiah. So as you take that
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: screech owl back, it's Lilith. Now this is associated with,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and that's in Isaiah 34, if people want to look
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: it up, 34 verses 13 through 17. And I give
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the larger, not just the specific, so that you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: because there's dragons in there, there's... jackal type howling angels
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: in there. There's a bunch of different names and you
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: get those types of beings in both in Isaiah 13
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and Isaiah 34. 34, this is more of a day
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: of the Lord or Armageddon time that this setting is in.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Isaiah 13 is the destruction of Babylon. So just a
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: few years before that. So understand that we have this
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: sort of taking back of this owl type of screech
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: owl to a goddess type of level. So we do
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: actually have owls or eagles or birds within the cherubim.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And if they take one physical form, then they would
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: take that sort of form. Just as you also have
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: on the cherubim, you also have a face of, you
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: could use that for a male as a raven. So
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: you could, duly take a similar sort of allegory back
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to that as part of the bloodline. So I think
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with, because of Lilith being this night witch
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: associated with Strigoi, I think we're dealing with two different
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: levels of beings, but both relating to the original bloodlines.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So I think Lilith is very high as one of
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the first offspring giants before the flood or after the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: flood and you could you could look at that both ways.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And or both. And we don't know whether or not
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Lilith takes on the history of an antediluvian goddess as
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: well because you have that sort of tradition that shows
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: up because she's unexplained. Except she has these titles. and genealogy,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: just as the Cernunnos god, sort of the source for
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the green man, as producing a spirit of offspring that
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: we might get into. Cernunnos is a horned god. He's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the pan god. He's the Odin god. He is the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Cern Kern of the Etruscan pantheon. And you can pronounce
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that two ways going back to the original languages I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: talked about of the giants for CERN or CERN pronounced
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: both ways, depending on which language it's being transliterated into.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: It means a two-horned god. So all of a sudden
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: now we have two out-of-place goddesses that just show up
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: in a lot of different pantheons, but no real position
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: for them after the Flood. it might be more of
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a reflection again of the two most important, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: gods and goddesses before the flood as part of a
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: living sort of understanding of the complete history. And, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: we get days of the week where you have three
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: different pantheons used to name the gods, and you've got
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: parent gods and offspring gods used. So I think they
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like to keep those histories alive and that understanding alive,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: but Again, you ask most people, like, why is there
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a pan god? And why is he so important? You know,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: these are satyr gods as they show up. Guess where?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: In the same Isaiah 13 and 34 passages in the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Bible and elsewhere. But understand that we're talking about some
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: sort of beings. And these ones may even be degraded watchers.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Because we don't get a goat god out of the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: original watchers. Right? So... I would be open to the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: fact that these would be a degraded form that is
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: associated with a goat, just as Satan, he's not in
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: his original form. And he's associated with goat horns and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: goat imageries. And he has been degraded to Satan status.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: So it might be again, be similar to something like that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: But we need to understand though, that, you know, you
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: have this, Anzu bird that's associated with, again, Samael and Lilith,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: but more associated with what I would say in its
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: application in mythology, but people might correct me on that,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: with Lilith and with Samael. Samael is also a partner
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: of Lilith. Now, doesn't that sound like a bit of
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: an allegory? Because Samael is one of the serpentine names
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: or dragon name for Satan. and you also have now
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a Lilith associated with Samael as also his consort and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: so this could be the original female and the original
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: male the original male Leviathan and female Leviathan and part
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: of the unaccounted aspect of the occult that we're not
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: really explained to, because this would obviously be explained at
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: the top levels of polytheism, where you have to be
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: very high at the depth level to probably get a
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: full understanding of it. So I'm just sort of trying
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: to connect some dots here. But it's an owl and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: an eagle, as the Anzu bird is, so male and female.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And again, that goes back to Cherubim. We also get
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: two female... angel-like beings in Zechariah 5 that's putting Babylon
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: into place and Shinar in the end time that are
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: associated with angelic beings. And typically we don't understand an
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: angel being a female. But an angel can take any
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: form that it wants. And we also don't know all
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: the different descriptions of angels in the pantheon. We only
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: have a few of them that we understand what they
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: looked like. So there's many that we don't know. So
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: We don't wanna be as Christians and monotheists too much
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: influenced by the context that polytheism might put in because
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: there's other stuff that might come with that. But we
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: also wanna understand the connections to what the common history
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: is being told us to be aware about here and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: those connections that the Bible gives us some information to
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: help understand this world in and understand that there's more
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: going on with watcher angels and their offspring, then what
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: first meets the eye is what we're dumbed down to believe.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: So I know I've gone on a lot about Lilith
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: and vampire, but we should understand that Lilith is a very,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: very important understanding in polytheism and in Babylonian texts, so
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: much so that Lilith is depicted as or Ishtar is
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: depicted as Lilith is, or vice versa, depending on how
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you want to read that. And of course, Ishtar would
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: be the angel that is most accredited with learning the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: knowledge from likely Azazel as one of his consorts to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: give all the illicit knowledge to humans. But nonetheless, whether
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it's Ishtar and this various transliteration of Ashtaroth, Astart, and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: on and on and on, there's like, 10 different like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: different transliterations within the middle east she was a parent
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: god goddess i mean so again you see the connections
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: why lilith might be associated with ishtar and lilith might
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: just be what she was original originally known as or
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: that's now her degraded form because ishtar is more associated
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: with the greek word for a star astera right And Astera,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: as it's part of one of the holy Sabbaths of
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the occult of the eight holy Sabbaths that they have
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: are sacred Sabbaths. So I'll leave that. I know I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: went on a long rant, but I'm sure you guys
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: have a lot of questions. But I just wanted to
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: show the complexity of this mythos of both vampires and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: how it associates itself with the female aspect with Lilith.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, thank you, because you answered a lot of
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the questions in everything you just mentioned. Blood, that is
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: central to these legends. The Bible says that life is
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: in the blood and forbids consuming it. Could the vampire's
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: promise of eternal life through drinking blood be a counterfeit
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: of the eternal life offered through Christ?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I think they're using it as a way to
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: try and extend their life. And I think it continues
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: to this day within the secret rituals. There's a lot
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: of occult people that inexplicably live to an average longer
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: life than humans do. Most humans do. But again, I'm
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: speculating on that. But I don't believe that that is
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a long-lasting aspect because the spirit's gone. So it's gone
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: to sleep back to heaven. So there's life in the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: blood and it's part of the amazing only, you know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: three laws given to the Gentiles versus the over 600
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: requirements of Israelite law. And the other ones are associated
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: with giants as well. Like, you know, don't, for example,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: don't eat food sacrificed to idols and don't worship idols, right?
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: So this is all part of the giant or Nephilim culture.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and the wheel worship of those eight holy Sabbaths. And
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: blood sacrifice and innocent blood with child sacrifice was quite prevalent.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: And we talked about why that might be the case
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: in terms of the younger and the most innocent, the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: more powerful, the substance that they're looking for, to put
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it as eloquently as I can, to give them more
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: cognizant understanding, productivity, and also to have them live longer,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to be demigods, because they wanted to continue to be
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: worshipped as demigods.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Do they have to die to get the blood? Can
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: they just get the blood while they're still alive, like
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: a portion of the blood?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you can. I mean, we know with humans,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: you can take a fair bit of blood, leave them
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: for a little bit longer and then come back for more.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: We do that in regular blood donations. I'm not convinced
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: we have proper records of what happens to all the
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: blood that goes into those donation centers, but that's another
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole that is something that we should have more
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: transparency on for sure, because it's such an important thing
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: for blood transfusions. But you just have to think that
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that's also an opportunity to get some of that in
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: plain sight, so to speak, which is by altering the
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: records and controlling those agencies to the adepts in their
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: high-level rituals. So, yeah, we should be very much aware
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: that this is something that you could imagine a situation
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: where we would be like chickens, where we collect eggs
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: for sustenance. We would be held in similar types of
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: things to take our lifeblood or our energy we could
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: be like the matrix allegory where they're using us for
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: power all sorts of different applications that you could imagine
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: if any of that is true and whether or not
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it is or it isn't they seem to believe it
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: and it's what they do with that belief system that
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: we have to always be concerned.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: About yeah true and i believe but But.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: You can't explain the biblical laws otherwise. It seems like, well,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: what's going on with this? Well, there's a lot of
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: history that goes with this. And they're drinking that blood
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: for reasons that, and in response to what God did
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: to limit the capabilities of the giants, both before the
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: flood and after the flood with further limitations.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: I believe in your interview you had with Prometheus lens
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: on doc Brown with doc Brown. Um, you explained that
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: these groups believe drinking someone's blood gave them control over
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: that person.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's, well, I'm not sure I said that, but, um, that,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: that is the, that is the substance of the conversation though.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: And whether or not that's true or not, um, It
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: is something we want to understand about possessions and how
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: they would get access to your blood. You're like giving
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: them permission. So you see this allegorized in the Dracula
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Bram Stoker's version where he has to be invited into
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: a house to attack a victim. That was my next question.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Coming through a window or a portal. And so once
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: he has that, he has the ability to control them.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: So you see where that sort of leads to. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: it might be because you also have to invite a
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: demon in or open an opportunity for them to possess you.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: And they seem to be linked and it's that access.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And they sort of allegorize that by the teeth that
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: are going in. and getting control of you and taking
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: your blood and continue taking that blood for as long
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: as they want. And again, we have humans that are
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: depicted as sort of wives of these vampires or harems
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of these vampires that are vampire-like. I don't know whether
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: that can happen, that they can give that immortality type
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: of thing back that they're talking about but they might
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: more or less be just those farms that they keep
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: with them the harem for consistent supply now they probably
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: also need to go out and get fresh blood regularly
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: as well but again I mean they're putting details in
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: here that as a layman we been dumbed down not
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: to look at the details why in all of these
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: vampire movies they have all of these sort of lesser
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: vampires that are following them probably because he controls them
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: probably because because they're competitors for the blood.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Supply interesting very interesting.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: And why would you create rivals true None of that
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: logic sort of makes sense, but in the story, they
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: get you seduced into it, right? So again, we want
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: to be aware of that. And this tradition even comes
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: down through the grail traditions where they would drink blood
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: through originally the skulls as it was with the Scythian tradition.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: And then it went into a grail, a chalice, G-R-A-A-L, chalice.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: And then it gets blended in through the double entendres
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: to the sangraal and sangraal for the grail stories, for
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the Holy Grail. But it's a holy bloodline and it's
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a blood drinking ritual as well. And that's the bloodlines
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that are encoded into King Arthur that we talked about
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: and Guinevere. And why all of these allegories can't be
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: coincidence in there, right? And the grail that they're looking
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: for is located not on earth, it's in Anwen, which
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is in the other world, in another dimension. And it's not,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: you know, this chalice full of blood that was collected
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: by Joseph of Arimathea, also part of the grail tales,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: where he collected the blood of Jesus. It's tracking the
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: genealogies of the elven bloodline of the Tuatha de Danann,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the bloodline of the future Antichrist, as they would play
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: that forward. And of course, elven is the noble white elf.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Elven as in more in plural, right? That you see
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: as these elven, royal, white elves in the Lord of
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: the Rings. They're just not as tall as they should
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: be represented. Or the Nordics that are being presented in
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the alien mythos. Again, you can't have all of these
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: data points throughout history right up to our time and
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: not say there has to be some sort of connection there.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true. Well, what about werewolf legends? Is that any
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: kind of biblical connection to that? I know Doc Brown
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: talks about Esau.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I wouldn't... Or Bigfoot connecting.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're connected.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's just look at the werewolves in their
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I think best explained Greek version. And in the Greek version,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: werewolves are understood as a trickster spirit and associated with
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: And you have trickster demonic spirits and trickster gods as well.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: So that's one aspect of it. And also they're associated
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: with Zeus. Now Zeus could inherit this mythos from Kronos
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: or Uranus from before the flood. I think all the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: offspring gods inherit the title, position, and legacy and tradition.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: and fulfill that after the flood, but not to get
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: people too confused. Like Zeus is dealing with King Lycaon, um, in,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: in the story. And there's, I'm not going to go
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: through all the details, but he basically puts a curse
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: on him, right. And changes him and all of his
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: family into werewolves. And so the, These beings also have
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: changeling capabilities, right? And they seem to be some sort
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: of rival to the vampire as we get the mythos down,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: but likely just a different sort of creation. But they
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: seem to be associated also with the dog Nephilim as well.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: that would go back to a god lame, Nebaz, that
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: we have in the Bible. We might have talked about
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: this past. It means a barking dog, and the Avim
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: giants worship them. And he's depicted as a dog head
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: or a jackal head. And of course, the howling angels
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: I mentioned in Isaiah 13 and 14, I mean 34,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: are these howling gods that are likely where Nebaz would
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: be part of, and Anubis also. not Anubis. Yeah, Anubis
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: would be part of, and he produced dog men in
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: great numbers, so much so they had to create a
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: city for it. And the Greeks called it, I don't
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: know what the Egyptians called it, because we only know
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: it by the Greek translation and name as Sinopolis. It
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: means dog city. You can't make this up. And so
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: you have this dog mythos from you know, dog-like or
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: jackal-like giants, as we would understand that, taking a physical form,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: passing on the DNA. Just as lion men of Moab
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: might go back to a lion physical form of the
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: cherub again that we get biblically. So when we look
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: at Genesis 36, we have Esau and his son Eliphaz
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: who are going to marry Aholibamah for Esau. and Tymna
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: for Eliphaz. And these are pure red-haired Orim female fairy
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: queens of pure stock that you use to start a
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: new dynasty with, sort of in that what I was
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: referring back to from King Arthur. And so you would
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: normally have within the bloodlines a pureblood dragon as well,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: a first son bloodline, but it's to form a new dynasty,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: it's the female that's important. And it's thought that the
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Rh negative from their genesis or their genes is passed
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: through the fairy queen. So the female bloodline. So you
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: have Eliphaz marrying Timna to produce the Amalekite hybrids. So
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: they're smaller than the Horing because you have a human
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: there and he's got a bloodline that goes back to Abraham.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: and which is why it sets up why the Amalekites
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: are going to work with the Amalekim that they go
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: to live amongst in Petra, why they're going to want
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to wipe Israel from the face of the earth so
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: they can, by Old Testament law, take the blessings that
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: went to Jacob in Israel, the Magianic promise for the
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: false Messiah, the inheritance and the birthright blessings. So you
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: also have these titles as these dukes, as they show
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: up in Genesis 36, as the dukes of Edom. And
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: when Esau and his descendants and Eliphaz intermarry, they become
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: dukes of Edom as well. That's the Hebrew word aleph,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: that the polytheist draft is part of the transliteration to
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: get to elf and the elven bloodline. And now you
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: have the understanding of the female starting this new crossbred,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: hybrid giant human that starts a new dynasties. And all
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: of a sudden things start to make a whole lot
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of sense on how the world works. So what you
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: can't do though, there is necessarily take that back to
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Esau procreating dog people, because you don't have, you don't
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: have a female there that you could say is the
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: offspring or part of the tribe of, of dog giants,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: or you don't have a Anubis or Nebaz type of
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: angel procreating with a female to produce that. So you
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: don't have that connection. You do get an association with Kenizzites, possibly,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: and Caleb, who is one of the spies and actually
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: takes over the leadership of Judah during the time of
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: the taking of the covenant land. Caleb in Hebrew means dog.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And some people might associate that his bloodline doesn't go
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: back to what you could associate through other bloodlines of humans,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: but back to a giant of the Kenazim giants that
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: would be dog people, except that, or dog giants, but
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: except there's nothing there that I can find to make
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: that sort of connection. But he was hairy, right? And
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: that's how you get to the dog sort of Nephilim.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: So if you're talking about Bigfoot, again, that's a different
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: type of creation and it's not tall like a giant
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: it's not warrior like it's a different kind of being
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: but what I would suggest is that you have with
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot is you have within the Polytheist Pantheon you have
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like a dawning from the Gnostics that has a face
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: of an ape. So to me, that's quite a connection.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And in Pistis Sophia, in book four, chapter 126, starting
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: at about verse 32, it has these 12 rulers, watchers,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: and dungeons. And Pistis Sophia is a Gnostic book. You know,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: it's named Sophia. I mean, we could understand that as
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: wisdom in Greek, but Sophia is the goddess of wisdom.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: And Gnosticism is the knowledge cult. So each of these
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: rulers have different faces. So, you know, you do have
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: ones with a serpent face, right? You have ones with,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: a vulture or eagle's face so this starts to make
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: sense in terms of the watchers and in the third
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: dungeon you have a dog's face and that one's name
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: is Arkarok so now you have in polytheism somebody that
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Nebaz might be part of that same type of order
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: of angels but we don't have that biblically we just
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: have the god named Nebaz and he's got a dog's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: head in a human's body and we also have ones
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: that have a face that would be a possible connection
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: to Bigfoot as his name is Lukar which is more
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: of a bear's face so those would be more likely
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: the ones that would be um ones that might procreate.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: The beings that we would know as the dogmen or
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: the dog Nephilim or the Bigfoot, um, without getting too,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: too far down the road.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: But, you know, you have St. Christopher that's depicted in
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: the Eastern Orthodox tradition with a dog face as a,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: as a, as a mercenary being captured and converting. And, uh,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: There's also a prayer and I'm just gonna, I just
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: have this note here. I like to pull it out
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: at opportune points. So, and it's prayer 93 of St.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Gregory Nuregg's book of lamentations to the Oriental Orthodox prayer
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: thread section L. And it's referring to these dog headed joints.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And this goes back to like, I don't know, a
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: thousand AD or so, but it's, So here's what it says,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: and I'll just read an excerpt out of it because
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I have it handy, which is kind of nice. I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: rarely get to use it, so it's nice to have.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: But I don't have it memorized. So the miraculous oil
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: brings the blessing of the light to the Jew and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: the Gentile. So it starts off rather innocuous. The Indian
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: and the barbarian. Then it says the Scythian and the Greek.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: So we have Scythians in there, Scythians, depending on how
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: you want to pronounce that. Could be C or a K.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: And the cruel savage, whatever that is, versus a barbarian.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: It's not clearly defined what they're meaning there. And the
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: fearsome dog-headed giants in the prayer. I mean, again, you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: can't make that up. What is it doing with a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Christian large church that broke away from the Roman church
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: about the same saint? It's just that the Romans have
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: decided not to put... what he looked like. They even
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: show him in pictures with a dog's face in Greek
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Orthodox imagery. Yeah. You can't make this stuff up. But
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: to have Esau go back to being the source of
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: either Bigfoot or Dogman is really tough to do sort
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: of biblically or any other way. We know who Esau is.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: He's the son of Isaac. Right? And there's no other
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: bloodlines in there that you could take that back to
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: a fallen angel. So unless there's some sort of curse
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: or DNA manipulation, but again, we don't get that biblically.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: But we do have them intermarrying with tribe of giants.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: But we know they are whoring by what Genesis 36 says.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: And we also know these are the same ones that
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: are taken in as part of the allegory for the
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: royals in Europe, as part of the elven kings.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. That's really interesting. Now, do we know when
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: the flood actually happened? Is there a date somewhere that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: says it happened on this month, day, something?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: No, we don't. What we have biblically is the genealogy.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: And it's reasonably accurate for us to get at. And
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I typically would place it 2350 to 2400. I leave
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: it a little bit of leeway just in case, BC.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Versus 2950 to 3050, which is sort of the windows
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: using secular chronology and datings and dynasties that they would
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: use there, which is about 600 years difference depending on
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: whether or not you want to go to 2450 or 2400.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: I could make an argument to go to 2450 as well,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: but it starts to push the accuracy of the Bible.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: So I kind of like limit it to 2350 to 2400,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: which gets you to 2950 to 3000. So, and most
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: people don't really think the flood from the secular happened
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: before the 3000. So we're kind of in the zone
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: where people would play, we would wait it to. So
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: in book one, I use secular chronology and then I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: use in book two for the Genesis six conspirators, the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: biblical chronology. But once you understand that there's a 600
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: year difference and it's a constant, and it seems like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: 600 years that are kind of added into things, it
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: starts to make a whole bunch more sense of, of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: our history. So like if you get into something like
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: the time of the Trojan War, secular history using those
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: types of models would put it somewhere around 12 to
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: 1400 BC. But with the Greeks, they say, we get that.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: We know how they're doing that, but it's not right.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: It should be, and they've asked me one time, because
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I've done shows in Greece, and I said, well, if
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you move the common dating back 600 years, what happens? Well,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: that would be perfect. everything starts to fit again.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's easy to get the dates wrong using
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: multiple civilizations because kings and gods can have up to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: seven different names. So you don't know whether you're duplicating
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: some of those. True.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Very true. Have you ever heard of, with the regarding
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: of the flood, that Halloween is I don't remember the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: exact story that it went but it's something that I've
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: heard a long time ago that the flood after the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: flood and all the children all the giants died and
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: that was the Demons, I guess, babies, their families. So
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: that was his family that all passed away in that flood.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Whose family?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: The demons, all those giants and stuff, the bad guys.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the antediluvian giants that were there would have died
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: in the flood, right? Yes.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: So all of them, they passed away. So Satan was
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: upset and he wanted to kind of make his... I guess,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: remembrance of his family. So he made the Halloween came
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: from that.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard something like that. I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: said it really wrong. So but I think you got
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: the gist.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. And, you know, you know, when I
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: look at things in terms of Halloween, it becomes relevant
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: as a post diluvian versus anti diluvian worship, particularly as
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: you understand the wheel worship of the giants is going
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: to be sort of centered around the giants. And so Samhain,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: as it comes down through its ancient sort of traditions,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: is the time, is the most holiest day in the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: occult wheel worship of, you know, the solstices and the equinoxes.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: And then you have at the six week point various
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: celebrations so like you would have Lupercalus that is held
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: in February that sort of completes at around St. Valentine's
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Day just before and they used to have a festival
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: of Lupercalus that has to do with the Pan God
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: and all sorts of crazy things on that. I won't
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: go into it, but you have May Day that comes.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: That's another special day. And so Halloween falls in that
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: same six-week category after September 21st and actually goes to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: November 11th. And you have the most portals opening up
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: in that period of the dead being led out and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: associated with Hermes leading out the dead and all sorts
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: of traditions. And so this is seemingly why it might
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: be in the hero worship, the wheel worship, the giant
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: worship of that religion would be the most holy day
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: because of all of these ancient demigods that are now
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: walking amongst us in ways that they can't do on
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: other days. And that would involve more portals being activated.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: So we don't know what might be being studied on
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: those days as well. But what we do get is
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: the celebration that is distinctly everything about Halloween is associated
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: with demons and giants and things associated with that. So,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you have ghosts. Those are demon spirits. Um,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: that's why you have vampires. We've already covered that. That's
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: why you have fairies, right. As being costumes, you can
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: go down all the lists, whether it's a skeleton, as
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: somebody dead might be dressed up like that. Um, superheroes.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: These are all based on giants is what we've covered
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: off in the past. And on and on and on,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: everything that's associated with these characters has to do with
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: this bloodline of giants who no longer have bodies that
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: come out on this certain day to haunt the world.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: And they're not very nice characters. And so Halloween to
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: me is more better understood as the giant worship day,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: the hero worship day that comes with it. And there's
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: no coincidence that it ends on November 11th, the day
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: we celebrate warrior heroes with poppies, which were part of
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: the ancient celebration of the dead in ancient history on
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: the last day of San Ham. That is the 11th
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: day of the 11th month at the 11th hour, which
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: is two prime numbers and very important numbers within polytheism.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: It's done to do things in plain sight.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: So basically what I was saying was that in a long,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: weird way.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Basically they're celebrating their loved ones that died and we're
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: all all the kids are celebrating it by dressing up
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: and i don't know where the trick-or-treat candy comes in
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: yeah as demons yeah that's crazy.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah and trick-or-treat is is a you know sort of
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: a deroitic as we get it tradition that is absolutely
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: horrible as to what the trick and the treat was
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: So this was happening in the time of these demons
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: coming first out on the first night. And the nobles
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: and the adepts would go door to door looking for
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: treats from people they ruled over. What they wanted was
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: the servants to sacrifice. So, and they were used, these
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: people that they sacrificed to be oils, in their lanterns
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: to ward off these demons coming through that were just
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: terrorizing everybody, right? Because they're demons, that's why they're called demons.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: And so, and they would put these sacrificed bodies and
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: things in these circles to attract the evil spirits and
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: away from them. And they also collected the servants as
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: well so that they could use them in the bobbing
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: for apples tradition. But it was boiling water that they
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: had to bob into. And so if they refused to
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: do it, then they were beheaded and burned for, again,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: the oil for the lanterns, kind of like the Burning
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Man aspect, right, that we see happening in October as well,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: usually just before the start of Samhain. associated a lot
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: with Cernunnos and the Green Man, but understand that we're
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: in the period of Sam Hamm. And those who declined
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: it were taken actually to the Wicker Man to be burned.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: And that's where they collected the fuel for. But if
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: you bobbed for it, you would die anyways. So, It
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: was a trick or a treat. You pick.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Your death, basically.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you pick your death. And where it would become
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: a trick for the people who refused to supply the servants,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: that's where they did those circles with those pentagrams and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: those bodies to attract them so the demons would haunt
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: those people in that house. So the tradition of going
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: door to door is... is pretty awful. And so we
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: should understand that, you know, wizards and witches are part
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: of the costume as well. Why? Because those are the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: priests and the priestesses.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: So they were going door to door to find people
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: for their fuel?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Fuel and sacrifices to, to satisfy the demon spirits. But
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: in hero worship, they used to do, because what happened originally,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: the hero, after he was killed, after he died, he
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: would be so upset. He's a disembodied spirit. He'd come
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: back and haunt the location he ruled over. So they
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: would have to do sacrifices to them. So you get
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: four times, you have interesting words that are translated as
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: devils in the King James Version Bibles. Two times it's
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: for the satyr gods that you're not to worship to,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: the goat gods. And the other two times it's the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: word shed, which is the transliterated she or seday word
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: that is these evil spirits. These are the hero worship
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: that is talked about in all cultures as demigods that
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: were worshiped even after they died. It was to pacify them.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean... vampires we already talked about vampires
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: why they would be part of the costumes goblins part
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: of the elementals part of the spurious offspring there's four
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: groups of of elementals with many sort of different variations
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: i think we covered those off in shows past um
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: so you have uh you know clowns which are part
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: of the trickster spirit notice the white clowns yeah the
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: white Shading of the face, like Day of the Dead,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: that's typically celebrated at the same time around the world.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: And when you look at theater masks in China or
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: the white masks for theaters in the West, that's to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: cover up the space because they're channeling demonic spirits, whether
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: it's in the theater of the heroes. They want to
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: channel that spirit or the character, but it's all after
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: heroes in these spaces. it's it just we just live
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: in a world that they hide everything in front of
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: us um so these crazy clowns that were popular 10
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: years ago is evil you know where it's where it's
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: coming sort of from i won't go through the whole
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: there's actually a book out there on clowns and association
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: with uh giants and the fellow who wrote it i
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: just sort of put it onto him because he was
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: into clowns and i made the connections for him we
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: did a show about 10 years ago oh really yeah
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: So werewolves are part of the costume. Why? Because we
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: talked about their creation and the association to dog people, zombies.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: These are the undead. Who are the undead? These are
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: demonic spirits that are undead and their bodies are, um,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously being possessed by the same spirits. Um,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: as they're shown in the Undead series, but it's more
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: the allegory of the spirit. And these demon spirits are
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: trying to kill humans to make them like them, but
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: actually probably to just sort of envelop their energy. So zombies,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: it's all part of the same culture worldwide, whether you
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: go back to voodoo or what. So demons Demons are
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: often part of the costumes as well. So anything to
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: do with it, even from Jack of the Lantern is
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: part of that same tradition. And Jack of the Lantern
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: is one of these individuals that gets linked back to
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the Wicker Man and stuff like that and the Green Man.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: But this was a demon that walks around the earth
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: with a lantern after tricking the, in the tradition after
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: tricking the devil. And so Jack is a typical name
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: for a demon.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So we'll just think of, you know, things like
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Jack and the beanstalk with the giant. I mean, Jack's
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: not said to be a giant there, but the allegory
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: is going to, make sense of there, but you have
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Jack Frost, a spirit that goes into the snowman, Jack
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: in the box that comes out and scares people. If
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: you start thinking about where Jack is being used, it's
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: always associated with occult history and demon spirits. Wow. So Jack,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Jack of the lantern, right? I mean, he's, he's wandering
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: the earth. So Jack, Again, it's all sort of meshes
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: in with the same traditions. And you wonder what's burning
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: the lantern in that.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: The same oil probably that those other guys was trying
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: to get knocking on doors.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: And that's from human.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Probably. We don't know, but probably. So, yeah, so he
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: is a trickster spirit that we talked about as well.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: And he's the spirit of demigods, as we understand Jack
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: being a giant. And he's also understood and called Jack
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: of the Green, which is the spirit or light aspect
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: of Cernunnos as an extension. So a demon spirit, an offspring.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Cernunnos going back to the pan god again that we
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: talked about earlier. And it's also associated with the hunt
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: of Sanham and these hunts of Odin and these hunts
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: are all part of the rituals, spirits leading up to
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: their rituals, leading up to their holy Sabbaths or many
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: of them. And Jack is understood in the occult as
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: an allegory for a spirit or a nature guardian, which
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: is where you get back to the green and the
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: green man and that wicker man, burning scenario in Cernunnos.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Like it all interweaves if you're able to start connecting
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: some of the dots. And the green man is a
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: symbol of rebirth. Symbol of rebirth is basically reincarnation.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Like the Jolly Green Giant?
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. Jolly Green Giant, yeah, would be based on that
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: as well. It's just everywhere. And so... we should look
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: at this tradition about how much we wanna participate in
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: a polytheist ritual. And because again, when you look at
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: everything that's going on, also understand that Jack and Jack
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: of the green is also understood as the Oak King
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: or the Holly King. And he is the one who
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: generally leads the hunt. And of course, he's a demon spirit.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: So I would just encourage people to say, hey, I'm
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: not here to say you can't have fun, but understand
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: that what the traditions are based on, I understand the
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: kids receive treats today versus the other sort of ancient
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: tradition that it came out of. But if you're going
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: to give them costumes, give them biblical costumes or something
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: that's not associated with demons. I mean, if you take
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: the analogy of an actor in ancient times putting on
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: a white mask to channel this demonic spirit.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Putting a costume on is kind of an invitation. And
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: we've all done it. Doesn't mean you're going to be
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: instantly possessed, but why would you take that chance and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: why would you participate in the occult ritual? Unless you're
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: an occultist, then fine, fill your boots. But if you're not,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: then you may want to rethink that strategy.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: And it's like targeting our children because Halloween is pretty
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: much made for children today anyway.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: And so this demon spirit, he was sentenced to roam
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: the earth for tricking the devil. And his spirit's not
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: allowed to go to heaven. It has to wander the earth. Well,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: what do demon spirits do? They wander the earth in
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: dry places, right? Unless they're in the pit prison. And
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: what else do I have down here on my notes
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: about Jack here? He says, and he actually uses a
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: burning coal in... The turnip. And the turnip used to
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: be what they did instead of the pumpkin. Turnips were
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: the original hollowing out and putting holes in it and
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: using that for a light. And it became a pumpkin
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: through North American tradition because pumpkins grew bigger and easier
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: than turnips do over here. So it became the chosen
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: one of choice. And so slits were sort of cut
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: into it to sort of light as white, but you
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: still need to fuel that. And they don't tell us
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: what the fuel was, but we kind of understand on
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: the day and what's happening, what's going on there. And
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: so bonfires were also used as the tradition for Samhain.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: And what they would do is they would burn these
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: fires in honor of their gods and the demigods. And again,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: look at the extended sort of allegories, what they're talking
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: about here on their most holiest day when the spirits
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: are coming out and you have this burning and it's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: representing rebirth. It also represents rebirth to the new earth
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: because whether it's Azazel, Mitra or Shiva, these are destroyer
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: gods that destroy the earth by fire. that is going
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: to be used to rebirth a new earth in that
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: belief system for the spirits and of their spurious offspring
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: to live in with the gods and given whatever bodies
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: they'll have in that new realm once that's done. Understand
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: how interwoven and intricate their belief system is. Everything means something.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: So when you get the Phoenix out of the ashes,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: In the lower levels, that's kind of a representation of
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: that rising out of the ashes into this new world.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. When you were talking about bobbing for apples,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: what are they really bobbing for? It was hot water
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: and what were they bobbing for?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my understanding was there was actually apples in there. Oh, okay. But,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, to get an apple, I mean, it's almost
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: impossible to do it. So you're going to die by
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: sticking your head in there as your hands were tied
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: behind your back. So, yeah. So death by bobbing or
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: death by other ways.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Gary, this was fascinating conversation as always
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: and a perfect one for this Halloween special. So thank
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: you for sharing your time and your knowledge. And you
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: always give me so much to think about. But I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: hope you can stay with us for the plus side,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: just for a couple of questions.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Awesome. As we kind of explore a little bit more
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: about the vampire initiation rituals, maybe, and the connection between
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: blood rituals and immortality. I think we kind of touched
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Yep.