Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Shehan Jeyarajah previews CFP semis, Can Miami win it all (?), Unenforceable NIL contracts "unpalatable" for college football + more
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Yeah, you're listening to a Sean O'Connell show from the
- 0:07Speaker 1: Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
- 0:11Speaker 1: to one af AM.
- 0:14Speaker 2: All right, college football playoff games tonight tomorrow. You can
- 0:19Speaker 2: listen right here on ESPN seven hundred Sports and on
- 0:23Speaker 2: ninety two one FM. Shahanji Raja covers the college football
- 0:27Speaker 2: world for CBS Sports. He's a friend of the program
- 0:30Speaker 2: who is kind enough to once again lend us his expertise.
- 0:33Speaker 3: Shahan, welcome back. How are you, sir?
- 0:36Speaker 4: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.
- 0:38Speaker 3: It's always great to hear from you. So tonight, You've
- 0:41Speaker 3: got a weird underdog story that I never thought I
- 0:45Speaker 3: would call Old miss Like an underdog I rooted for,
- 0:48Speaker 3: but given the fact that their coaching staff has been
- 0:51Speaker 3: decimated by Lane Kiffin's move, and the fact that these
- 0:54Speaker 3: players have been abandoned, I find myself kind of hoping
- 0:57Speaker 3: that they can pull this one off. It's it seems
- 1:00Speaker 3: like nobody there in that coaching exchange really believed they
- 1:04Speaker 3: were even going to beat Georgia, and now they have
- 1:06Speaker 3: an opportunity to punch a ticket to the National Championship Game.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Can Old Miss do it given what they're up against,
- 1:13Speaker 3: not only with Miami, but with what they're missing from
- 1:18Speaker 3: their own roster slash coaching staff.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they can. And you know, you look
- 1:24Speaker 4: at this matchup against Miami obviously is going to be
- 1:26Speaker 4: a really good one and a different kind of matchup,
- 1:29Speaker 4: certain than the first couple of weeks that they've had,
- 1:32Speaker 4: because you know, the irony is this is that Oltmiss
- 1:35Speaker 4: really hasn't faced the defensive line like they're going to
- 1:38Speaker 4: see during their entire time in the SEC. But what
- 1:42Speaker 4: that said, I mean, I think that there's a couple
- 1:44Speaker 4: things that still work in their favor. One is, I mean, obviously,
- 1:47Speaker 4: the emergence of quarterback Trinidad Chambers has been so huge
- 1:49Speaker 4: for this team. He made huge plays down the stretch
- 1:52Speaker 4: against Georgia and really has all season long. The other thing, too,
- 1:56Speaker 4: is that I was really impressed actually with how much
- 1:59Speaker 4: they're defense has come together, including in that game against Georgia.
- 2:03Speaker 4: If you think back to the first Georgia game, it
- 2:06Speaker 4: was their defensive early collapse down the stretch, I think,
- 2:08Speaker 4: allowing nineteen points in the last quarter and a half. So, look,
- 2:11Speaker 4: this is going to be a tough challenge, But certainly
- 2:13Speaker 4: I don't think if there's anything about Miami that should
- 2:17Speaker 4: scare Ole Miss away at this point, this is going
- 2:19Speaker 4: to be a huge opportunity for them.
- 2:22Speaker 3: What is Miami's best chance here? You know, they they
- 2:26Speaker 3: have great quarterback play. You mentioned that defensive line Mario
- 2:30Speaker 3: Cristobal where those of us who spent time in the
- 2:32Speaker 3: Pac twelve world had some brushings with him when he
- 2:36Speaker 3: was up at Oregon. What makes what makes Miami most
- 2:41Speaker 3: dangerous in this game? In your mind?
- 2:44Speaker 4: Well, Miami. I said this even heading into the playoff,
- 2:46Speaker 4: I feel like Miami might be the best trench team
- 2:48Speaker 4: in the entire college football playoff, and in that game
- 2:51Speaker 4: against the Ohio State they proved it. Of course, Ruven
- 2:54Speaker 4: being in the key, mesidor on that defensive line are
- 2:57Speaker 4: the headliners, but really they're all offensive line is kind
- 3:01Speaker 4: of the unit that I think has been the biggest
- 3:03Speaker 4: advantage for them in twenty twenty five. You know, you
- 3:06Speaker 4: think back to those last two games, they've been able
- 3:08Speaker 4: to take them over with their running game, especially Mark
- 3:11Speaker 4: Flesher really being a breakout star for them. And I mean, again,
- 3:16Speaker 4: like you said, with Carson bek when he's able to
- 3:18Speaker 4: play in structure. He's really really special and that was
- 3:22Speaker 4: something that at least for the first two and a
- 3:25Speaker 4: half quarters of that game against Ohio State they were
- 3:28Speaker 4: able to do in a big way. And so I
- 3:30Speaker 4: think that this is a big opportunity for them. To me,
- 3:33Speaker 4: they're the favorite heading into this matchup tonight, and if
- 3:36Speaker 4: they're able to really control the trenches, like this is
- 3:39Speaker 4: a team that absolutely can not only beat Ole Miss,
- 3:42Speaker 4: but can beat anybody in their way as well.
- 3:46Speaker 3: It's not tonight, but it is tomorrow. Oregon Indiana. We
- 3:51Speaker 3: get a rematch from earlier in the year and the
- 3:53Speaker 3: Hoosiers looked really good in that one. Can Oregon turn
- 3:57Speaker 3: the tides this time?
- 3:59Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be a big opportunity for them.
- 4:02Speaker 4: I think that organ is definitely playing better football than
- 4:05Speaker 4: they were at that mid season point. But you know,
- 4:08Speaker 4: this Indiana team right now is just, i mean, similarly
- 4:11Speaker 4: playing kind of perfect football right now, right I mean,
- 4:14Speaker 4: you look at that game against Alabama where they're able
- 4:17Speaker 4: to shut them down and essentially every single way Oregon's
- 4:20Speaker 4: going to be a lot better. Oregon creates a lot
- 4:22Speaker 4: more advantages for themselves. But I think the big question
- 4:25Speaker 4: to them is can they create some explosives in the
- 4:28Speaker 4: passing game. That was a huge issue in that first matchup.
- 4:31Speaker 4: They lose thirty to twenty, but by the way, seven
- 4:33Speaker 4: of those twenty points came on a pick six as well.
- 4:37Speaker 4: I think their defense is going to have a decent time.
- 4:39Speaker 4: It's really whether their offense, which obviously has tons and
- 4:42Speaker 4: tons of talent, can stretch the field and make Indiana's
- 4:46Speaker 4: job difficult. That wasn't able to happen in that first game.
- 4:49Speaker 4: I think it'll happen more in this second game. But
- 4:52Speaker 4: I still give the advantage to the Hoosiers.
- 4:56Speaker 3: All right, less fun to discuss, but equally maybe more
- 5:00Speaker 3: important right now in the college football world. How how
- 5:03Speaker 3: is this Demand Williams situation gonna work out with Washington?
- 5:08Speaker 4: Yeah? This is this is fascinating. I think that you know,
- 5:11Speaker 4: last year we had a situation with Xavier Lucas, a
- 5:14Speaker 4: Wisconsin defensive back who ultimately unenrolled and enrolled himself at
- 5:19Speaker 4: Miami even though he had signed a repshare contract. Well,
- 5:22Speaker 4: that happened essentially during kind of you know, a gray
- 5:25Speaker 4: area period because technically the house case hadn't started as yet.
- 5:29Speaker 4: This is going to be the first time that we
- 5:31Speaker 4: have a truly high profile, you know, sort of enforcement
- 5:35Speaker 4: of this contract opportunity. And I think the other piece
- 5:40Speaker 4: of it too is that one it's a quarterback. Two,
- 5:43Speaker 4: I mean it's Lane Knelosi allegedly involved in this. And
- 5:47Speaker 4: three I think that if you're Washington, you kind of
- 5:49Speaker 4: have no choice but to try to challenge this. So
- 5:53Speaker 4: I think this one's legitimately going to go all the way.
- 5:55Speaker 4: I think that it could go to court. You know,
- 5:58Speaker 4: we'll kind of see what it looks like. Now, let's
- 6:02Speaker 4: let's talk about sort of the different parts. Right from
- 6:05Speaker 4: one perspective, I don't think that they're going to be
- 6:08Speaker 4: able to prevent Demond Williams from going to ls You
- 6:12Speaker 4: I imagine that there's going to be probably some sort
- 6:15Speaker 4: of injunction to you know, to impact, uh, you know,
- 6:19Speaker 4: some part of this contract. But I don't think that
- 6:22Speaker 4: ultimately Demond Williams is going to be prevented from going
- 6:24Speaker 4: to LSU. Expect them to play this year. I think
- 6:27Speaker 4: that also the court will determine that if he does,
- 6:30Speaker 4: you know, if he was forced to sit out, that
- 6:33Speaker 4: would be irreparable harm. But the question is going to
- 6:36Speaker 4: be this Okay, what what what is the timeline of
- 6:38Speaker 4: all of this? Uh, the other piece would be, you know,
- 6:42Speaker 4: depending on the language in this contract in Reger and NIL,
- 6:46Speaker 4: does Washington have some exclusive rights to compensate him. Does
- 6:50Speaker 4: it impact Elsie's ability to compensate him either internally or
- 6:55Speaker 4: externally with outside NIL deals. That's going to be I
- 6:57Speaker 4: think a huge question for this. And then long term,
- 7:01Speaker 4: does this result in him having to pay some sort
- 7:04Speaker 4: of damages or fines?
- 7:06Speaker 2: You know?
- 7:06Speaker 4: The big thing is this is that when Wisconsin tried
- 7:10Speaker 4: to enforce the Xavier Lucas situation, they went to Miami
- 7:14Speaker 4: and basically tried to get them for camping. Well, here's
- 7:16Speaker 4: the question, does Washington actually try to enforce it against
- 7:22Speaker 4: demand Williams himself because he is the one who's breaking
- 7:26Speaker 4: the contract. We haven't really seen an example at this
- 7:29Speaker 4: point of a school going after an individual player, but
- 7:32Speaker 4: this is probably as prime to situation that you're ever
- 7:35Speaker 4: going to get to try it.
- 7:37Speaker 3: If the if the contracts are not enforceable, what what
- 7:42Speaker 3: are the implications for college football? If a guy can
- 7:46Speaker 3: sign and four days later he can change his mind
- 7:49Speaker 3: and he can go somewhere else. I mean it feels
- 7:53Speaker 3: like kind of get off my lawn type of opinion.
- 7:56Speaker 3: But also, I genuinely don't know if if these contracts
- 7:59Speaker 3: don't actually mean anything, if they're not worth more than
- 8:02Speaker 3: the paper they're printed on, I don't know what happens
- 8:05Speaker 3: with college football after that.
- 8:09Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think it's completely unpalatable, to be frank.
- 8:12Speaker 4: And the other thing too, is that, yeah, there's obviously
- 8:14Speaker 4: the perspective of, well, you know what if players can
- 8:17Speaker 4: leave two days after they sign a new contract, But
- 8:19Speaker 4: there's also the perspective of, well, then our university is
- 8:23Speaker 4: just going to decide not to pay guys like and
- 8:25Speaker 4: then on top of that, it sort of brings up
- 8:27Speaker 4: this bigger question of like, well, then what is a
- 8:30Speaker 4: cap if there are no contracts technically, like, what does
- 8:33Speaker 4: that even mean? Necessarily? I think that it's a really
- 8:36Speaker 4: existential situation and I'm very curious to see how the
- 8:40Speaker 4: courts deal with it now. I think the other piece
- 8:43Speaker 4: of this as well is that, you know, certainly there's
- 8:46Speaker 4: sort of this short term flexibility of the players that
- 8:50Speaker 4: they're benefiting from. Long term, it's going to be interesting
- 8:53Speaker 4: to see, Okay, but you know, let's say that this
- 8:55Speaker 4: demand William, this thing happens and they say, well, you
- 8:58Speaker 4: can't enforce this contract, and everything is you know, all
- 9:01Speaker 4: this is built on a you know, on a house
- 9:03Speaker 4: of cards, and none of it's really real. I think
- 9:06Speaker 4: that also, if you're you know, a player advocate, you've
- 9:09Speaker 4: also got to start to asking yourself, Okay, at what
- 9:12Speaker 4: point does this become per se ridiculous enough that you
- 9:17Speaker 4: know that Congress is spurred to act or you know,
- 9:20Speaker 4: the executive branch is spurred to act, and maybe you
- 9:23Speaker 4: get a much worse feal than you would have gotten
- 9:25Speaker 4: in the first place. This is kind of like the
- 9:27Speaker 4: other piece of all this. I mean, the reality is
- 9:29Speaker 4: just that nobody at this point really has much incentive
- 9:32Speaker 4: to work with each other. And again, I mean, here's
- 9:36Speaker 4: here's the deal, right, It's like there is no sports
- 9:40Speaker 4: on the planet where players are perpetual free agents. But
- 9:45Speaker 4: that's just that's not realistic. That's not how any of
- 9:48Speaker 4: this works, right, And we're kind of reaching that moment
- 9:52Speaker 4: in college athletics. And I do think that again, this
- 9:56Speaker 4: is going to be a bliss as we try to
- 9:57Speaker 4: figure out what's next, but certainly exists now it's not palatable.
- 10:03Speaker 3: Yeah, It's going to be very fascinating to see how
- 10:06Speaker 3: this one works out and what kind of precedent it
- 10:08Speaker 3: sets for the entire industry, for the entire sport. And
- 10:12Speaker 3: I can't say that I'm feeling optimistic about it, but
- 10:15Speaker 3: I am happy that we have real football to watch tonight,
- 10:18Speaker 3: tomorrow and all weekend. I didn't ask you about Indiana
- 10:24Speaker 3: and Kurt Signetti, so before I let you get out
- 10:26Speaker 3: of here, I want to do that. This is a
- 10:29Speaker 3: guy who's done an unbelievable job at the college level.
- 10:33Speaker 3: His name has been attached to at least a couple
- 10:36Speaker 3: NFL openings, although it doesn't seem like he's a prime
- 10:39Speaker 3: candidate for those, and it does appear that Indiana's prepared
- 10:42Speaker 3: to do whatever it takes to incentivize him to stay.
- 10:46Speaker 3: Do you think Kurt Signetti is really considering NFL jobs
- 10:49Speaker 3: or NFL jobs really considering Kurt Signetti?
- 10:53Speaker 4: I mean, I think the NFL opportunities would be smart
- 10:56Speaker 4: to take the tires on him. But you know, I
- 10:58Speaker 4: mean I think that Kurt Signetti he is very much
- 11:00Speaker 4: a college football coach. And the other thing too, that
- 11:03Speaker 4: you at least have to consider with the NFL is like,
- 11:06Speaker 4: you know, yeah, obviously you flip over guys every one, two,
- 11:10Speaker 4: three years. But you know, I think that also, like
- 11:13Speaker 4: his age does start to become a factor when you're
- 11:15Speaker 4: talking about somebody entering the NFL for the first time.
- 11:18Speaker 4: I don't believe that he has any NFL experience at
- 11:22Speaker 4: this point unless he had something very very early in
- 11:24Speaker 4: his career, and so you know, you'd really be thrusting
- 11:27Speaker 4: him into a brand new context at sixty six. And
- 11:32Speaker 4: you know, I think that certainly he is a good
- 11:35Speaker 4: enough coach that you consider it. But if you're the NFL,
- 11:38Speaker 4: and if you're Kurt Signetti, like I don't know, it
- 11:41Speaker 4: just makes a lot more sense to stay where you're at.
- 11:43Speaker 4: He had the opportunity to go to any number of
- 11:46Speaker 4: blue chip programs this season. I mean, he could have had,
- 11:50Speaker 4: you know, LSU or Penn State or Michigan or any
- 11:53Speaker 4: of these jobs if he really wanted them. He decided
- 11:55Speaker 4: to stay at Indiana, and he'll be compensated very well
- 11:58Speaker 4: for doing so. So I don't necessarily think that there's
- 12:01Speaker 4: much there's much a realistic chance that you'll consider those
- 12:05Speaker 4: outside opportunities, But there are only thirty two of those
- 12:08Speaker 4: NFL jobs, and certainly if you're Kurt Signettian. I mean,
- 12:11Speaker 4: let's say you win a national championship this year, maybe
- 12:14Speaker 4: kind of say, all right, well I did that. Maybe
- 12:17Speaker 4: there's something else to try.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Well, we'll see how it plays out. I can't believe
- 12:21Speaker 3: we're getting this close to the end of this college
- 12:23Speaker 3: football season, Shahan. I appreciate your time again today. Hopefully
- 12:28Speaker 3: we'll talk again before that national championship game.
- 12:32Speaker 4: Sounds good. Thanks for having me.
- 12:34Speaker 3: National college football insider over at CBS Sports. Shahanjay Rajah
- 12:39Speaker 3: one of the best in the business.