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Betrayal by the Book: The Nile River Sacks, the Secret Neighbor Affair, and the Cold-Blooded Murder of Mother and Daughter · Crime Night

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the deep dive. Tonight, we're exploring a case
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  Speaker 1: that starts with well absolute trust and ends in just
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  Speaker 1: horrific betrayal. It all kicks off with a grim discovery
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  Speaker 1: on the banks of the Nile River.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a story about those hidden cracks in
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  Speaker 2: you know, the relationships you think are the most solid.
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  Speaker 2: How a safe space, a home can turn it too
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  Speaker 2: something else entirely. It begins on a quiet evening down
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  Speaker 2: in Egypt, so hag governor it right.
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  Speaker 1: Picture this. It's late, maybe around eight zero pm the
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  Speaker 1: Nile Corniche area. It's dark, you got the city lights
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  Speaker 1: reflecting off the water, but mostly just the sound and
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  Speaker 1: feel of the river moving.
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  Speaker 2: And a young guy is just out for a walk,
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  Speaker 2: a routine thing. But then he spots something something large,
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  Speaker 2: heavy looking near the edge of the water, a big
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  Speaker 2: sack shwall they call it. Just doesn't look right, that.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling you know something's wrong. He feels compelled to check
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  Speaker 1: it out, but you can imagine the dread. He manages
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  Speaker 1: to drag it partly onto the bank.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's heavy, really heavy. He tears a small hole
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  Speaker 2: in the sack and instantly he sees it a human head,
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  Speaker 2: an adult woman, the worst possible confirmation.
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  Speaker 1: Police arrive, obviously secure the area. Immediately, they retrieve the
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  Speaker 1: sack the body. It's a woman, looks like maybe in
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  Speaker 1: her thirties, fully closed, but the water it's done some damage.
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  Speaker 1: Immediate idea is impossible.
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  Speaker 2: But the cause of death is clear pretty quickly. Is
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  Speaker 2: signs of manual strangulation.
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  Speaker 1: Putting her in a sack, taking her to the river.
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  Speaker 1: That suggests someone trying very hard to hide what they did, right,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get distance from the crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: Itself, exactly, hoping the river would just carry the evidence away.
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  Speaker 2: But in that effort, maybe in their panning, they made
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  Speaker 2: a mistake, a big one right there?
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  Speaker 1: Oh was that?
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  Speaker 2: While the police are still processing the first scene, they
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  Speaker 2: noticed something else a bit further away, another sack, smaller
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  Speaker 2: this time. Oh no, Yeah, they pull that one out too,
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  Speaker 2: and inside a little girl, maybe ten years old, also
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  Speaker 2: fully dressed.
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  Speaker 1: Also strangled, so immediately the picture changes. This isn't random
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 2: It's instantly clear. Two victims killed the same way, packaged
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  Speaker 2: the same way, dumped in the same place. You're looking
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  Speaker 2: at mother and daughter almost certainly and likely a single
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  Speaker 2: killer who knew them, knew them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, okay, so a horrific crime, linked victims, but still
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  Speaker 1: so many questions. Who are they, why did this happen,
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  Speaker 1: and crucially where did it happen, because it probably wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the riverbank.
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  Speaker 2: Right, That's where the forensics team really takes over. The
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  Speaker 2: autopsy is key now, not just to confirm how they died,
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  Speaker 2: but to start building a picture of who they were
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  Speaker 2: and what happened in those final moments.
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  Speaker 1: And the results started coming in they did.
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  Speaker 2: DNA confirmed the relationship mother and daughter. No surprise there really,
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  Speaker 2: but the timeline details were quite specific, like what, well,
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  Speaker 2: the pathologists figured they'd been killed about five days before
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  Speaker 2: being found both strangled. But here's the thing. The mother
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  Speaker 2: was killed first, shortly before the daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what did that sequence tell you? Forensically speaking, killing
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  Speaker 1: the mother first it.
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  Speaker 2: Suggests control, maybe pre meditation. It's not a chaotic, frenzied
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  Speaker 2: attack where both might be killed almost simultaneously. It points
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  Speaker 2: towards a primary target, the mother. And then then the
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  Speaker 2: elimination of the witness, the daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, methodical, cold chilling. And then there was another finding
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  Speaker 1: from the autopsy, something that just completely shifted the direction
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  Speaker 1: of the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Ah Yes, the finding that the mother IBSISM had engaged
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  Speaker 2: in sexual relations very shortly before her death.
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  Speaker 1: That blows the random attacker theory out of the water,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it completely?
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  Speaker 2: It narrows the focus dramatically. You're no longer looking for
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  Speaker 2: a stranger and intruder. You're looking for someone intimate, someone
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  Speaker 2: she knew, trusted, perhaps enough to be with shortly before
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  Speaker 2: she died. It also strongly suggests the murder didn't happen
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  Speaker 2: during a break in, but somewhere else, somewhere planned, or
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  Speaker 2: at least somewhere familiar.
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  Speaker 1: So with this profile, mother and daughter strangled connection to
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  Speaker 1: intimacy before death. The police could finally put names to.
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  Speaker 2: The faces right missing persons reports and got a match
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  Speaker 2: fairly quickly. Keep to Sam, thirty seven years old, and
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  Speaker 2: her ten year old daughter. They had been reported missing
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  Speaker 2: by the husband's family.
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  Speaker 1: Actually her husband's family. What was her situation?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if to some was a widow. Her husband had
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  Speaker 2: died about five years earlier, left her financially okay, apparently
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  Speaker 2: own the apartment they lived in, But, and this is important,
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  Speaker 2: she'd sort of cut ties with his family after his death,
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  Speaker 2: lived quite an isolated life, just her.
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  Speaker 1: And her daughter and the in laws. When they reported
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  Speaker 1: her missing. They had a theory.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they suspected maybe someone had taken advantage of her
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  Speaker 2: living alone, broken in attacked her at home, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the kind of fear people have for someone perceived as vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: But that theory didn't match the evidence, especially the lack
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  Speaker 1: of a struggle at her place exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Police got a warrant, searched Iptism's apartment top to bottom
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  Speaker 2: and found well nothing, no fourth century, no signs of
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  Speaker 2: a fight, everything neat, tidy. It was clear the murders
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  Speaker 2: did not happen there, so the killer wasn't breaking in.
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  Speaker 1: They were either invited in somewhere or they used another location. Entirely,
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  Speaker 1: this points away from strangers and towards her circle.
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  Speaker 2: Her very small circle. Since she distanced herself from the
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  Speaker 2: in laws, who was left It really came down to
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  Speaker 2: her immediate neighbors, a couple named Lila and Akrim neighbors.
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  Speaker 1: How close were they.
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  Speaker 2: According to initial interviews extremely close. Lilah was described as
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  Speaker 2: Ip to Sam's best friend like a sister, and Layla's
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  Speaker 2: husband Ikrame, well he apparently considered it to Sam like
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  Speaker 2: a sister too. They painted this picture of a very
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  Speaker 2: tight knit, supportive relationship going back years, even before Iptosum's
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  Speaker 2: husband died.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the trusted inner circle, But investigators are trained to
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  Speaker 1: look beyond the surface.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and during those initial interviews, while a Kremi was
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  Speaker 2: talking about how close they all were, how much he
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  Speaker 2: cared for IP to Sam like family, the officers noticed
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  Speaker 2: something about Leilah.
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  Speaker 1: What was it?
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  Speaker 2: Just subtle things, her facial expressions, fleeting moments of distress,
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  Speaker 2: maybe discomfort, something that didn't quite match the name varrative
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  Speaker 2: of simple shared grief. It was like she knew something
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  Speaker 2: or suspected something, but wasn't saying. Just a flicker, but
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  Speaker 2: they noted.
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  Speaker 1: It down interesting a gut feeling. But they needed more
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  Speaker 1: than that.
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  Speaker 2: They needed proof, and often these days that proof comes
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  Speaker 2: from our digital lives. The prosecutor authorized a check of
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  Speaker 2: ip to Sam's phone records. They focused on the days
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  Speaker 2: leading up to her disappearance, about a week before the
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  Speaker 2: bodies were found.
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  Speaker 1: And did they find anything significant?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, The very last outgoing call IBTSM ever made four
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  Speaker 1: thirty pm on the day she vanished. It was to Ikrami,
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  Speaker 1: her next door neighbor, the man who considered her a sister.
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  Speaker 2: One call could be innocent, maybe asking to borrow something.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, one call maybe, But they didn't stop there. They
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  Speaker 1: dug deeper into the records and what they found was, well,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't neighborly. A huge history of calls, long calls,
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  Speaker 1: frequent calls, and tons of messages exchanged between to some
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  Speaker 1: and Akromi.
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  Speaker 2: So not just neighbors, not like a sister, not even close.
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  Speaker 1: It screamed secretly, relationship, an affair. Suddenly, the motive of
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity, the intimacy suggested by the autopsy, It all
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  Speaker 1: started to click into place, and Lila's strange reaction during
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  Speaker 1: the interview it made a lot more sense.
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  Speaker 2: They had enough to bring him back in and.
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  Speaker 1: There immediately confronted them with the phone records and Ikramy.
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  Speaker 1: He just crumbled, confessed right away to everything, to the murders,
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  Speaker 1: but his immediate focus, almost desperately, was to shield Mila.
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  Speaker 1: He kept insisting she knew nothing, had no part in it,
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  Speaker 1: that he acted completely alone. And Lila's reaction to his confession.
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  Speaker 1: Did it confirm what the police suspected about her knowing something?
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  Speaker 2: It did, but perhaps not in the way you'd think
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  Speaker 2: she was genuinely utterly shocked, devastated. It confirmed the officer's
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  Speaker 2: initial read. She sensed something was deeply wrong. Maybe suspected infidelity,
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  Speaker 2: but the idea of a double murder and the true
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  Speaker 2: extent of the betrayal that floored her. She hadn't known
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  Speaker 2: the horrifying reality.
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  Speaker 1: So this affair, how long had it been going on?
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  Speaker 1: And how did it start? This whole thing began after
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  Speaker 1: her husband died?
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievably, yes, the affair started just two months after Iptisen
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  Speaker 2: became a widow back in twenty fifteen. It Krimy apparently
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  Speaker 2: prayed on her vulnerability, her loneliness. He complained to her
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  Speaker 2: about his own marriage problems with Lilah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, So he created this false bond while Lila was
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  Speaker 1: probably confiding in Iptism about the very same issues.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, a really cruel emotional triangle. And they decided early on,
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  Speaker 2: apparently not to get married. If to somem worried about
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  Speaker 2: her daughter, Ekremy wouldn't leave Lilah. So it became this
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  Speaker 2: long term secret arrangement.
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  Speaker 1: Four years, wasn't it. How did they even manage that?
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  Speaker 1: Living next door?
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  Speaker 2: The level of deception is staggering. It seems Ipdisen would
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  Speaker 2: often take her daughter over to Lilah's place, maybe say
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  Speaker 2: she was running a quick errand or letting the kids play,
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  Speaker 2: and then she'd leave her daughter playing, sometimes literally just
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  Speaker 2: outside the door, and conduct the affair with a cremey inside,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes even in Llilah and Acromei's own home when Leila
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: In Lila's own home, yeah, with the child nearby. That's
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  Speaker 1: an incredibly.
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  Speaker 2: Braz It speaks volumes about Ekram's calculation and sadly about
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  Speaker 2: Leilah's absolute trust. She apparently did have moments of doubt
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  Speaker 2: over those four years, little suspicions, but she'd pushed them away,
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  Speaker 2: literally telling herself it was like the devil's whisper, because
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  Speaker 2: she couldn't conceive that her best friend and her husband
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  Speaker 2: would betray her like that.
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  Speaker 1: But secrets that big rarely stay buried forever, do they?
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  Speaker 1: How did it finally come out?
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't the phone records. Initially it was a child's innocence.
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  Speaker 2: Towards the end of that fourth year, Leila's own daughter
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  Speaker 2: casually mentioned something about Ip to some having been inside
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  Speaker 2: their house when Leila wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Home Ah the final piece of the puzzle for Leila's
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  Speaker 1: doubts exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It confirmed those suppressed fears. Leilah investigated, confronted them, and
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  Speaker 2: finally caught them. The secret was.
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  Speaker 1: Out, So Ikram was cornered. What happened then he.
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  Speaker 2: Knew it was over. He told, if to some, the
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  Speaker 2: affair had to stop right then and there, his life,
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  Speaker 2: his family, his reputation were all on the line.
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  Speaker 1: But if to some didn't just accept that after four years, No.
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  Speaker 2: She refused. She felt she had invested too much. Perhaps
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  Speaker 2: she threatened him, said if he cut her off, she
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  Speaker 2: would expose everything, tell Leyla the whole story, the full
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  Speaker 2: four years ruin him publicly.
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  Speaker 1: So she turned the affair into leverage, a.
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  Speaker 2: Weapon, precisely, And for Ikram that threat wasn't just about embarrassment,
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  Speaker 2: it was about total destruction. In his mind, there was
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  Speaker 2: only one way to guarantee her silence permanently.
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  Speaker 1: He started planning methodically.
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  Speaker 2: He waited for a day, he knew Lila would be
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  Speaker 2: out of the house early. Then he made that phone
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  Speaker 2: call we found in the records, the four point thirty
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  Speaker 2: PM call, luring Iptism over one last time, under.
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  Speaker 1: The guise of talking or a final encounter, likely.
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  Speaker 2: Presented as a final encounter. She came over, brought her
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  Speaker 2: daughter with her, as she apparently often did. They had sex,
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  Speaker 2: which matches the forensic finding exactly, and then right after
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  Speaker 2: he strangled her coldly calculated, but.
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  Speaker 1: The daughter was there outside playing.
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  Speaker 2: He knew he couldn't leave a witness. He went out outside,
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  Speaker 2: found the little girl, brought her inside and strangled her too,
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  Speaker 2: Just eliminated the only person who could place it to
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  Speaker 2: some there with him.
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  Speaker 1: You already have the sax ready, it seems.
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  Speaker 2: So part of the plan. He put the bodies in
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  Speaker 2: the sacks he's prepared, waited until evening around eight zero pm,
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  Speaker 2: drove to the Nile Cornese and dumped them in the river.
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  Speaker 2: Then just went home, acted like nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Happened until the phone records led the police back to
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  Speaker 1: him and he confessed.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. With the confession, the phone data, the forensic evidence
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  Speaker 2: lining up, it was an overwhelming case. He was tried
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  Speaker 2: and sentenced to death.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a devastating story. The betrayal is profound, but
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  Speaker 1: what really strikes me is the complete violation of boundaries
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  Speaker 1: of the home.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's the core lesson here. Isn't it The danger
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  Speaker 2: inherent in giving people unchecked access absolute trust, especially within
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  Speaker 2: your most private spaces. The home, which should be a sanctuary,
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  Speaker 2: became the stage for the deception, the planning, and ultimately
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  Speaker 2: the motivation for murder and.
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  Speaker 1: The deep tragedy, of course, is the child killed for
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  Speaker 1: no reason other than being present a witness to her
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  Speaker 1: mother's relationship in her neighbor's crime.
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  Speaker 2: A devastating consequence of adult actions and betrayals. It really
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  Speaker 2: makes you think about the nature of trust. The source
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  Speaker 2: material kind of hints that this dynamic, this potential for
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  Speaker 2: boundaries to be fatally eroded by those closest to us,
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  Speaker 2: it might be more common than we think.
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  Speaker 1: At least you wonder it, doesn't it? How much trust
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  Speaker 1: is truly safe? And how do you possibly protect the
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  Speaker 1: sanctity of your own life, your own home from the
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  Speaker 1: very people you let inside. A difficult question with no
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  Speaker 1: easy answers.