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- 0:16Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club thirty. Good morning, everybody is DJ Envy,
- 0:21Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the God Tests as well. She've been
- 0:24Speaker 1: here the last two days, so you part of reference. Ye.
- 0:29Speaker 1: We got some special guests joining us today. Test is
- 0:32Speaker 1: back again and we also have Nadia Hall Green welcome you,
- 0:35Speaker 1: and of course attorney Ben Crump, who has a new
- 0:38Speaker 1: documentary called Civil that's out June nineteenth. Well, good morning, guys,
- 0:42Speaker 1: and thank you for joining us. Thank you King for
- 0:44Speaker 1: having us. Now for people that don't know, breakdown what
- 0:47Speaker 1: is civil, what it's about, and tell us all about it.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Certainly are Lee. I am always in eye of you,
- 0:54Speaker 1: so I say that public, I thank you. I appreciate that.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Civil is net Lix documentary coming out on June tenth.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It was directed by the young, brilliant director Nadia Hagren.
- 1:09Speaker 1: This uh African, Porto Rican, all kind of flavors in
- 1:14Speaker 1: there also. I mean, she is it. Her vision is
- 1:25Speaker 1: so incredible. I mean it followed me for eighteen months
- 1:31Speaker 1: during a pandemic where we had not heard of George
- 1:35Speaker 1: Floyd when they started filming. We had heard of Amadar,
- 1:40Speaker 1: but but hadn't heard of Brianna Taylor at the time.
- 1:43Speaker 1: And she is capturing all this footage intensely while we're
- 1:48Speaker 1: dealing with these families and so many other things like banking,
- 1:52Speaker 1: while black environmental racism, fighting for the black farmers doing
- 1:57Speaker 1: and she, more than anybody else, just understood the moment.
- 2:02Speaker 1: This isn't just a documentary for today. This is a
- 2:06Speaker 1: documentary as Kenya barrass and I who's the producer, created
- 2:10Speaker 1: Black and said, this is a documentary for our children.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Yet I'm born. I'm so glad you're here because there
- 2:17Speaker 1: was a call that we got. I don't know if
- 2:20Speaker 1: you were here, Envy last week, but somebody called it
- 2:23Speaker 1: and they were talking about Larry Nassar and how there's
- 2:26Speaker 1: this lawsuit against the FBI because of Larry Nasar, and
- 2:31Speaker 1: how they knew about the cases against him but they
- 2:33Speaker 1: didn't act on it, and somebody called it and they
- 2:35Speaker 1: were like, well, this is discussing what is money gonna do?
- 2:39Speaker 1: Why do victims need money if they're truly victims, and
- 2:42Speaker 1: this is just a money grab. So I know this
- 2:45Speaker 1: is something that you, as a civil rights attorney, can
- 2:47Speaker 1: speak to. So I would love for you to talk
- 2:48Speaker 1: about that when people try to say, oh, they're just
- 2:51Speaker 1: trying to get some money, or he's just chasing money
- 2:53Speaker 1: and trying to fatten his wallet. I tried not to
- 2:55Speaker 1: listen to the hate as much because I understand my mission.
- 2:59Speaker 1: My tad. She's saying, now you gotta go back out
- 3:03Speaker 1: on crump, I'm like, I don't have the time because
- 3:06Speaker 1: I'm so focused on the mission. The mission is trying
- 3:09Speaker 1: to say to people, psychologically and consciously, to American society
- 3:14Speaker 1: that no, no, we matter, We deserve equal justice. When
- 3:18Speaker 1: you have a wrong against us, we have a right,
- 3:22Speaker 1: not only based on the Seventh Amendment of the United
- 3:25Speaker 1: States Constitution, but just based on common sense. We have
- 3:30Speaker 1: a right to send the message that you can't do
- 3:32Speaker 1: this to us and get away with it. I'm representing
- 3:35Speaker 1: a lot of black and brown people in Los Angeles
- 3:38Speaker 1: County at McClaren Hall, which was a children's shelter in
- 3:43Speaker 1: Los Angeles for fifty years, black and brown children were
- 3:47Speaker 1: being raped and sexually molested in the county just looked
- 3:51Speaker 1: the other way. It's been all these years, and now
- 3:54Speaker 1: California because of things that were happening in bart Scouts
- 3:57Speaker 1: in the Catholic Church said we're gonna give you three years.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Anybody who was molested in those things when you were
- 4:04Speaker 1: seven or eight years old, you have a right to
- 4:06Speaker 1: come forward. Think about those people. Yeah, the only thing
- 4:10Speaker 1: you can get his money. You can't go back and
- 4:12Speaker 1: give them their innocence back. But when you have that
- 4:15Speaker 1: civil compensation, it makes the county pay, It makes the
- 4:19Speaker 1: corporations paying those type of things. And like we say
- 4:22Speaker 1: on the trailer of Civil if anything America understands, it's
- 4:28Speaker 1: money capitalists, it's capitalism one O one. And when you
- 4:32Speaker 1: start making people pay, then they change their conduct, or
- 4:36Speaker 1: you keep going until it becomes financially prohibited for them
- 4:42Speaker 1: to be able to afford to treat black people and
- 4:44Speaker 1: brown people like second class citizens. Now let me chime
- 4:47Speaker 1: in on that though, right quick. Because he gave you
- 4:48Speaker 1: to Martin the which always say I'm Malcolm and he's
- 4:51Speaker 1: marks before you go, yeah, because you know I'm about
- 4:53Speaker 1: to go. There's a lot of people don't have the knowledge. Right.
- 4:57Speaker 1: So sometimes people call here or see articles and they
- 4:59Speaker 1: say Attorney Benjamin Crump is an ambalance chasing, right. He
- 5:03Speaker 1: chases just to make money or the fat in his pockets. Right.
- 5:06Speaker 1: And when Ted came up here, she spoke so eloquently
- 5:09Speaker 1: about you don't solicit anybody. Yeah, people have to reach
- 5:13Speaker 1: out to you. And many times people reach out to
- 5:14Speaker 1: certain other attorneys or other anywhere anybody else and nothing
- 5:19Speaker 1: gets done, and they don't sit get done two until
- 5:22Speaker 1: you step on the stage cause a day. So now yea,
- 5:26Speaker 1: now talkyo, Yeah, I'm a better talk about so yeah.
- 5:29Speaker 1: So to the dumbbos in the comments, I'm speaking directly
- 5:32Speaker 1: to them. And again this is not a reflection of
- 5:34Speaker 1: Attorney Crump. These are my own statements. When people say
- 5:37Speaker 1: it's not about it's all about the money, first of all,
- 5:39Speaker 1: that makes no sense. Only five percent of Attorney Crump's
- 5:42Speaker 1: cases are police brutality, that's number one. Nobody talks about
- 5:46Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar lawsuits that he's been able to
- 5:48Speaker 1: get for folks who are alive and well the six
- 5:50Speaker 1: hundred million dollar lawsuits he's been getting alive and well,
- 5:53Speaker 1: America or any government has never paid for the value
- 5:57Speaker 1: of black life. And so I find it amazing that
- 6:00Speaker 1: the same people in the comments that will sue McDonald's
- 6:02Speaker 1: for a slip and fall feel that it is not
- 6:04Speaker 1: It makes no sense if someone takes your life and
- 6:07Speaker 1: you feel that that family should not deserve compensation for
- 6:10Speaker 1: their children that's been left behind. What are they supposed
- 6:12Speaker 1: to exchange Roman noodles like in the pen. The only
- 6:15Speaker 1: thing we have is the money compensation. But to ignore
- 6:18Speaker 1: the fact that Attorney Crump pushes for the criminal punishment,
- 6:21Speaker 1: to ignore the fact that policy actually comes out of
- 6:23Speaker 1: these cases. When you talk about the bround, the Taylor Law,
- 6:25Speaker 1: when you talk about the and andre Hill law, when
- 6:28Speaker 1: you talk about one hundred cities that have now enacted
- 6:31Speaker 1: police reform since the murder of George Floyd, it has
- 6:33Speaker 1: been because Attorney Crump and a few others and I'm
- 6:36Speaker 1: saying a few, just to be generous, have brought these
- 6:39Speaker 1: cases to light. There are billions of dollars every year
- 6:42Speaker 1: that are settled based on police brutality. I ask people,
- 6:46Speaker 1: why is it that your local attorney and your hometown
- 6:49Speaker 1: never wants to take these cases. Why is it? It's
- 6:52Speaker 1: not certainly not for a lack of advertisement. Every commercial year,
- 6:55Speaker 1: every day is if you've been injured in an accident,
- 6:56Speaker 1: if you've been into accident, So why don't they take
- 6:58Speaker 1: those cases? Angel? That's the qua I ask people, why
- 7:00Speaker 1: don't you see them with? The answer is in which
- 7:02Speaker 1: you point this out in the film. They do not
- 7:04Speaker 1: want to upset their DA. They don't want to up
- 7:06Speaker 1: set the governor, they don't want to upset their chief
- 7:08Speaker 1: of police. They do not want to be black balled
- 7:11Speaker 1: and send the death threats for pennies. And I'm gonna
- 7:13Speaker 1: say this and I'll be quiet. When you look at
- 7:15Speaker 1: these cases that attorney Crump takes or any civil attorney,
- 7:19Speaker 1: these cases take years, two, three, four or five six years.
- 7:22Speaker 1: You don't earn a dollar. So I would ask anybody
- 7:25Speaker 1: in the comments, are you willing to work for forty
- 7:27Speaker 1: hours a week for three to four years straight? Maybe
- 7:30Speaker 1: maybe not get compensation at the end. It just makes
- 7:33Speaker 1: zero sense. It doesn't add up. The MAV doesn't math.
- 7:36Speaker 1: So when you hear those comments amulance chasing, no, everybody
- 7:40Speaker 1: say that tells their loved one in the amulance. I'll
- 7:42Speaker 1: use one story Morrowbirt, a case I worked on in
- 7:44Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. The stepfather Monrobert said, do not. I don't
- 7:48Speaker 1: want being Crump because the family called me first, because
- 7:50Speaker 1: their son was being dragged off through the media. They
- 7:52Speaker 1: called me first. He said, I don't want being Crump.
- 7:54Speaker 1: I don't want none of that coming down because he's
- 7:56Speaker 1: an ultra conservative Tulsa, Oklahoma, ultra conservatis black man, but conservative.
- 8:00Speaker 1: But once his son got started getting dragged in the media,
- 8:04Speaker 1: then it was can you call a turn the Crump
- 8:05Speaker 1: because nobody was willing to stand and change the narrative.
- 8:09Speaker 1: The narrative that has changed in the media affects the jury,
- 8:12Speaker 1: it affects how they make those decisions. And so now
- 8:15Speaker 1: seven years later, they're passing the Monroe Bird Law. And
- 8:17Speaker 1: that's the stuff that people don't keep up with us.
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- 8:28Speaker 1: We're still kicking It with Attorney Benjamin Crump, Teslin Figuo
- 8:32Speaker 1: and Nadia whole green that discourage you at all, Like,
- 8:36Speaker 1: no matter what, you out there to do good right.
- 8:38Speaker 1: And then so when you got people and people that
- 8:40Speaker 1: look like you that you're fighting for and they go
- 8:42Speaker 1: at you, does that discourage you at all? Ivy, I
- 8:45Speaker 1: try to be a student of history. Thirdgood marsh has
- 8:48Speaker 1: my personal hero Martin, then Malcolm. These are the MLA people.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Don't understand that they were hated mostly by black people.
- 8:58Speaker 1: You know, we have this revision this history that everybody
- 9:00Speaker 1: loved them, but when they were at their peak, they
- 9:04Speaker 1: were the most hated people in America by both white
- 9:07Speaker 1: and black people. And so I always try to remember
- 9:10Speaker 1: that and say, God, I know what mission you put
- 9:14Speaker 1: on my shoulders, and I'm going to use these blessings,
- 9:18Speaker 1: these influences to try to affect a better world for
- 9:22Speaker 1: our children. And I'm never discouraged by anything. As we
- 9:26Speaker 1: said in the family, don't be a spectator. If you
- 9:29Speaker 1: feel you can do something, get in the arena. The
- 9:32Speaker 1: easiest thing in the world to do is to sit
- 9:35Speaker 1: at home and be a critic and don't do anything else.
- 9:39Speaker 1: The hero is the person who puts themselves out there,
- 9:42Speaker 1: risk their reputation, their family, safety, and even their life,
- 9:47Speaker 1: and say this is about more than just me. We
- 9:51Speaker 1: have these banking while black cases where we have recovered millions,
- 9:55Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars for black people over two
- 9:59Speaker 1: hundred millions of beings. Let's put the number out there
- 10:01Speaker 1: so they can in the comments. And it's so astonishing
- 10:05Speaker 1: to me, Envy and Angie, that people would say, Oh,
- 10:09Speaker 1: it's just about the money. What do you think banks
- 10:12Speaker 1: and corporations are doing things for. Are they doing it
- 10:15Speaker 1: just for charity? Are they doing it just because they
- 10:20Speaker 1: had nothing better to do. No, they're doing it for
- 10:22Speaker 1: the money. And so when we take on Whales Fargo,
- 10:25Speaker 1: who we are currently fighting now because they were denying
- 10:28Speaker 1: black people mortgages during a pandemic where the government had
- 10:34Speaker 1: gave an opportunity, and I digress. I gotta say this,
- 10:38Speaker 1: y'all absolutely doing the pandemic because they were worried about
- 10:41Speaker 1: the economy. The government gave historic incentives to decrease the
- 10:47Speaker 1: interest rate for home loans lord than they had been
- 10:51Speaker 1: in seventy five years. Y'all understand for poor people in
- 10:55Speaker 1: middle class people, the quickest way to gain wealth and
- 11:00Speaker 1: equity is to be able to purchase a home and
- 11:03Speaker 1: pass something more to your children and their children. That's
- 11:06Speaker 1: how you get wealth accumulated. Well, even with all of this,
- 11:10Speaker 1: Where's Fargo? Where's the nine Black people? White people were
- 11:16Speaker 1: getting incredible incentives to increase their wealth by saying you
- 11:21Speaker 1: got a two percent interest rate, you might save a
- 11:24Speaker 1: million to two million dollars just because you were able
- 11:27Speaker 1: to refinance. They said, no the black people. And so
- 11:30Speaker 1: now I can where about the Negroes in the comments?
- 11:33Speaker 1: So I can go say no, where's Fargo? You probably
- 11:36Speaker 1: stop black people from getting a billion dollars in equity.
- 11:40Speaker 1: So guess what being Crump gonna do. I don't care
- 11:42Speaker 1: what you say. I'm going to get those black people
- 11:44Speaker 1: that billion dollars. But now let's talk to you, because
- 11:46Speaker 1: this is a spicy room if you haven't, so, let's
- 11:52Speaker 1: talk about you. You directing this, and what made you
- 11:55Speaker 1: want to do this film? Like most of us, I
- 11:57Speaker 1: was sitting home during that time when everything was happening
- 12:00Speaker 1: in America, the pandemic, George Floyd's murdered, and I'm like,
- 12:04Speaker 1: I'm a filmmaker. I need to be out there doing something.
- 12:06Speaker 1: And then I get a call from Kenya Barris and
- 12:08Speaker 1: He's like, I've been working on something with Ben Crump.
- 12:10Speaker 1: We want to make a documentary. Do you want to
- 12:13Speaker 1: get involved? So grab the camera. Just got on the
- 12:16Speaker 1: role with Ben, and I just knew that this was
- 12:18Speaker 1: a moment to document history and what was happening in America.
- 12:21Speaker 1: And you also showed Bankrump's family, his mom. Now, why
- 12:25Speaker 1: was that important in framing this story? One thing I
- 12:27Speaker 1: thought was so special when I met Attorney Crump was
- 12:30Speaker 1: just who he is as a person, as an individual,
- 12:33Speaker 1: his values, you know, at the highest standard at where
- 12:37Speaker 1: that came from. Was that hard for you to expose
- 12:40Speaker 1: that part of your life, because that's not something you
- 12:41Speaker 1: ever do. It's very hard to expose your personal life.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I will say this. My mom was here at the
- 12:49Speaker 1: Tribeca Film Festival premiere and we grew up in the projects.
- 12:54Speaker 1: My mother raised me and my two brothers and her
- 12:56Speaker 1: baby brother, working two jobs, I mean, doing everything for us.
- 13:02Speaker 1: And it was so beautiful for my mother to see
- 13:06Speaker 1: what she did. I mean, it's standing ovation. And then
- 13:10Speaker 1: out of Times Square they got Netflix really has invested
- 13:13Speaker 1: in this movie and they have a Billboy eighty foot
- 13:18Speaker 1: off the ground on forty second and Broadway, and for
- 13:21Speaker 1: my mom Mo to say we started in the projects
- 13:24Speaker 1: and that we're here. I mean, it's just a testament
- 13:27Speaker 1: to a strong black woman absolutely saying I won't let
- 13:31Speaker 1: this world destroy my children. And so my mom and
- 13:35Speaker 1: my wife, my daughter, everybody in this film, they just
- 13:40Speaker 1: kept it rare kep it too. How does your family
- 13:43Speaker 1: deal with it? Because it's it's you know, it's like
- 13:45Speaker 1: anything else. Yeah, I mean, if you could just take
- 13:47Speaker 1: all the negativity, it is all good, but it bleeds
- 13:50Speaker 1: into your wife, it bleeds into your kids, and then
- 13:52Speaker 1: you know, a test was talking the other day about
- 13:54Speaker 1: the death threats. Yeah, how does your family deal with it?
- 13:57Speaker 1: How are they okay? It's hard. Obviously as adults we
- 14:03Speaker 1: understand what we're doing. My nine year old daughter watch
- 14:06Speaker 1: the film for the first time yesterday and she said, Daddy,
- 14:09Speaker 1: you got a death threat and she was very concerned
- 14:13Speaker 1: about it. And so we had that conversation about baby,
- 14:18Speaker 1: Dad is out here fighting for you to have a
- 14:21Speaker 1: better world, and sometimes people don't want to see our
- 14:26Speaker 1: black children have an equal opportunity at life. We have
- 14:31Speaker 1: to fight for our rights. We can never take stuff
- 14:34Speaker 1: for granted. And she was like, but you didn't do
- 14:38Speaker 1: anything wrong. I said, baby, I know that, and you
- 14:41Speaker 1: will learn that some people feel that they're superior to
- 14:46Speaker 1: us because the color of their skin. And that's always
- 14:48Speaker 1: a difficult conversation to have with young people because they
- 14:53Speaker 1: want to see the best in the world. She was
- 14:56Speaker 1: asking me questions, Man, she is terrified by these school shootings.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Your children that have to deal with that trauma. What happens, dad,
- 15:07Speaker 1: if it happens in our school, you know. So we
- 15:10Speaker 1: talk about those things. I think about how my wife,
- 15:14Speaker 1: my brothers, everybody in their minds, they are prepared that
- 15:19Speaker 1: it could happen. And we have to protect your family
- 15:25Speaker 1: when you're on the road so much. I mean, they're
- 15:28Speaker 1: constantly checking on them and everything. And that's the other
- 15:31Speaker 1: side that Tas was talking about. My law partners, Now,
- 15:35Speaker 1: we don't make that much money doing police brutality. We
- 15:38Speaker 1: make our money from doing mass tours, saying class action work,
- 15:42Speaker 1: stuff that you know is going up against these corporate titans.
- 15:46Speaker 1: This police brutality. Civil rights work. It's something you do
- 15:50Speaker 1: because you care. Nobody does civil rights work to get rich.
- 15:54Speaker 1: It's the least profitable division in my law firm. I
- 15:59Speaker 1: pray so much that we can close down the police
- 16:03Speaker 1: brutality the vision of the ben Crump law firm, because
- 16:07Speaker 1: then that would mean tray Vine will get to live
- 16:10Speaker 1: because somebody then profile him. Amad Aubrey. I mean all
- 16:15Speaker 1: these young black people in the film now he has
- 16:18Speaker 1: a part in, a fifteen year old, eighteen year old,
- 16:22Speaker 1: in a nineteen year old in a week's time, all
- 16:26Speaker 1: get killed by the police, completely unjustified. But if we
- 16:32Speaker 1: can somehow have them look at our children like they
- 16:35Speaker 1: look at their children, then our children would get to live.
- 16:38Speaker 1: And that's what I pray for, man, That's what I'm fighting.
- 16:42Speaker 1: I've made enough money. I'm gonna be okay. My law
- 16:46Speaker 1: firm would rather I just stopped doing the civil rights
- 16:49Speaker 1: They like you did enough Crump. We can make money
- 16:53Speaker 1: a lot easier and more of it if you would
- 16:56Speaker 1: just quit doing the civil rights work. But I'm like,
- 16:59Speaker 1: then I would be selling out my soul. Now. It's
- 17:02Speaker 1: about fighting for our children, man. I Heeart Radio for
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- 17:14Speaker 1: with Attorney Benjamin Krump, Teslain Figuro, and Laddia Holgrin. So
- 17:19Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Now, Ladia is the director,
- 17:22Speaker 1: what's the biggest taket way you get out of this documentary?
- 17:24Speaker 1: What I hope envy is that when people watch this
- 17:27Speaker 1: film they have a much deeper, nuanced understanding of what
- 17:32Speaker 1: life is like in our communities than they ever have before,
- 17:36Speaker 1: and that they understand the work that Attorney Crump does.
- 17:39Speaker 1: You know something we spoke about earlier, just this idea
- 17:41Speaker 1: that civil law and criminal law are actually two different things,
- 17:45Speaker 1: and we were surprised in this film when we showed
- 17:48Speaker 1: it to people and they didn't understand it. So just
- 17:51Speaker 1: to give people a basic understanding of how the law
- 17:53Speaker 1: works as well. So it's an educational tool, but it's
- 17:57Speaker 1: really to bring people in a show behind the scenes
- 18:00Speaker 1: of what these cases are really like other outside of
- 18:03Speaker 1: the press conferences and the new cycle tells you when
- 18:05Speaker 1: to cris anybody else anything else the world. I just
- 18:12Speaker 1: think I'll just echo you know, the world. It is
- 18:16Speaker 1: important that people understand civil law and criminal law because
- 18:20Speaker 1: the prosecutors, I think intentionally sometimes lose these cases. We
- 18:24Speaker 1: have never lost a police brutality the case, but people
- 18:27Speaker 1: sometimes can't distinguish the two, and so I think not
- 18:32Speaker 1: it does a good job or reminding people of what
- 18:35Speaker 1: we should have learned in seventh grade Civics class, that
- 18:39Speaker 1: the government is the only people can prosecute you and
- 18:42Speaker 1: put you in jail. And then the Seventh Amendment says,
- 18:45Speaker 1: if you've had a wrong that you believe as big
- 18:49Speaker 1: put upon you, you have a right to sue them,
- 18:53Speaker 1: and if the jury agrees with you, you are entitled
- 18:56Speaker 1: to compensation. And the law has some reason for that,
- 19:00Speaker 1: because they don't want people trying to solve their disputes
- 19:04Speaker 1: in the street by shooting and killing one another. No, no,
- 19:07Speaker 1: you come to the court in law, and if a
- 19:08Speaker 1: Jared agrees, then the only thing we can give you
- 19:12Speaker 1: is monitory damage. That's the accountability. That is the accountability.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Before a text gives her final word, I do want
- 19:17Speaker 1: to say that I know you've been inspired by Thirdgood Marshall,
- 19:20Speaker 1: and you speak on it all the time. But I
- 19:22Speaker 1: feel like after seeing this, kids will being inspired by you,
- 19:25Speaker 1: and that's the thing that will make the next generation
- 19:27Speaker 1: want to become active, become attorneys, become civil rights attorneys,
- 19:31Speaker 1: and make sure that they do what's right. Absolutely, we
- 19:35Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you. I'll dropped the sick for the
- 19:41Speaker 1: positivity encouraging me to be I will say this, and
- 19:48Speaker 1: I talked about this in my last Breakfast Club interview
- 19:51Speaker 1: on my Push the Line training that's coming up politics
- 19:53Speaker 1: until something happens, I want to give a quick shout
- 19:55Speaker 1: out to texts six six eight sixty six push the
- 19:58Speaker 1: Line to six six eight six six. What is that about?
- 20:01Speaker 1: It is about getting in the fight. What people should
- 20:04Speaker 1: get from this documentary at the end is being Crump says,
- 20:07Speaker 1: get into the arena. I know who I am, and
- 20:10Speaker 1: I know whose I am, and what does that really mean.
- 20:13Speaker 1: You've got three ways to get involved. Now. You can
- 20:15Speaker 1: just be in the comments, or you can get involved
- 20:18Speaker 1: on the criminal side, to push for the folks get arrested,
- 20:21Speaker 1: to push to end qualified immunity, like what happened in
- 20:23Speaker 1: New York City, by the way, like what happened in Colorado,
- 20:26Speaker 1: by the way. You can talk about making sure folks
- 20:28Speaker 1: get arrested. You can talk about the protest side. You
- 20:32Speaker 1: can talk about the punitive damage aside, which is what
- 20:34Speaker 1: attorney Crump does. Or you can talk about the policy,
- 20:36Speaker 1: which is what I talk about, which is one over
- 20:38Speaker 1: one hundred cities have passed some level of police reform
- 20:41Speaker 1: that nobody talks about. We still have to push on
- 20:43Speaker 1: the federal level for the George Floyd Justin Police and Act,
- 20:46Speaker 1: but over one hundred cities have made some difference. The
- 20:48Speaker 1: bottom line is you have every opportunity to be involved.
- 20:52Speaker 1: My logo push the line and has each person pushing
- 20:54Speaker 1: one pushing the p to you, the S and the H.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Nobody's paying attention to what's going on beside them. There's
- 20:59Speaker 1: a child on the side that is watching with their
- 21:01Speaker 1: fists up, watching what it is that we're doing. So
- 21:04Speaker 1: you can push or you can talk. In the Bible,
- 21:07Speaker 1: whether you are believing, I'm only talking to the believers,
- 21:09Speaker 1: it says that at the end, you know, we talk
- 21:11Speaker 1: about who's the goat, who's the goat, who's the goat,
- 21:13Speaker 1: Who's the greatest of all time? We love throwing that
- 21:15Speaker 1: around in hip hop, but in the end, there is
- 21:17Speaker 1: going to become a time where the goat would be
- 21:19Speaker 1: separated from the sheep. What is the sheep? People say,
- 21:22Speaker 1: the sheep is who follows and who does what man does.
- 21:25Speaker 1: But in the Word of God. It says that the
- 21:26Speaker 1: sheep is about the shepherd's business. So you are either
- 21:30Speaker 1: going to be about for the least of these? Are
- 21:32Speaker 1: you gonna be one of the goat that are not
- 21:34Speaker 1: here to serve those who have been in prison, to
- 21:36Speaker 1: serve those who have been disenfranchised, to serve those who
- 21:39Speaker 1: have been marginalized. And when it's time to make that accountability.
- 21:42Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong that I don't have nothing to
- 21:44Speaker 1: worry about. If I just disappear into existence, fine, But
- 21:47Speaker 1: what if I'm right? Dj envy. If I'm right, there's
- 21:50Speaker 1: going to be the question what did you do? And
- 21:52Speaker 1: the answer won't be Well, I was in the DM
- 21:53Speaker 1: I told being he should do this. I told tell
- 21:56Speaker 1: what did you do for the least of these? You've
- 21:58Speaker 1: been challenged right now to do something one of those
- 22:01Speaker 1: three four things. Don't worry about what's been doing, get
- 22:04Speaker 1: the arena and get your squaw bone. It's plenty of
- 22:07Speaker 1: people that's talking from the stands. We talked about that Friday,
- 22:10Speaker 1: everybody at the game. But guess what, we don't all
- 22:12Speaker 1: play the same position. I've never once seen Lebron James
- 22:14Speaker 1: turn around to the stand and say what y'all think
- 22:16Speaker 1: I should do? Should I go? This? Attorney Crumb got
- 22:19Speaker 1: a focus on playing the game, and then you got
- 22:21Speaker 1: people like me that's on the sideline, on the bench
- 22:23Speaker 1: cheering them on. Let's go, let's go, let's go off
- 22:25Speaker 1: a cheerlead. All through school. My job was to say
- 22:27Speaker 1: let's go, but to also challenge at the same time, saying,
- 22:29Speaker 1: turn Crump, I don't really like that. I'm not feeling that,
- 22:31Speaker 1: but I'm on the court in the game. So if
- 22:34Speaker 1: you just understands talking, you just understands talking, Let's start
- 22:37Speaker 1: walking and let's be about our business. Here you go.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Civil is out this Sunday, Tuesday, June teh, June teenth.
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- 24:01Speaker 1: appreciate you. Now. How do you like your coffee? Common
- 24:06Speaker 1: question a lot of people get asked. I've never been
- 24:08Speaker 1: a coffee drinker. My wife is not my thing. I
- 24:10Speaker 1: prefer a good ginger tea with some honey as a
- 24:13Speaker 1: pick me up in the morning. Are my Carviva sports
- 24:15Speaker 1: drinker one of the two. I'm actually sitting here to
- 24:18Speaker 1: siding which one I want right now. But I respect
- 24:20Speaker 1: all coffee drinkers. Okay, A lot of y'all heard me
- 24:22Speaker 1: ask how do you like your coffee? And you answered,
- 24:24Speaker 1: I like it black, straight black, no cream with sugar.
- 24:27Speaker 1: Some of y'all want cream and sugar. Some of y'all
- 24:29Speaker 1: like a dark rose. Some of y'all like a half
- 24:31Speaker 1: calf water down because it makes you too jittery. Little
- 24:34Speaker 1: oat milk really okay. Some of y'all like a little lighter,
- 24:38Speaker 1: blonde rose. Some of y'all don't like to taste at
- 24:39Speaker 1: all because it's too bit of Some folks like putting
- 24:42Speaker 1: a little salt in their coffee. Have you heard of that?
- 24:44Speaker 1: She eat? Nope, put a little salt in their coffee
- 24:46Speaker 1: because it blocks the bitterness. All right. There's a lot
- 24:48Speaker 1: of ways to drink coffee. Personally, I don't dig it
- 24:51Speaker 1: because I don't like the tasting. Someone not liking to
- 24:54Speaker 1: taste of coffee is why sheland Downy is in jail today. See,
- 24:57Speaker 1: she had an eighty one year old husband, and her
- 24:59Speaker 1: husband even got into an argument with her over the
- 25:02Speaker 1: taste of his coffee. Now, Angelie, you have a coffee business, right, yes,
- 25:07Speaker 1: Coffee uplifts people. Coffee uplifts people. This is a story
- 25:09Speaker 1: of coffee upsetting people. Okay, if someone doesn't like the
- 25:13Speaker 1: taste of their coffee, ye, how do you handle it?
- 25:17Speaker 1: Try to get them a new one? Simple? Right? Yeah?
- 25:19Speaker 1: I would think if someone didn't like the taste of
- 25:21Speaker 1: the coffee, you would simply fix them another cup. When
- 25:25Speaker 1: you're married, you would probably tell said person fix your
- 25:27Speaker 1: own damn coffee. Then. Okay, if you don't like the
- 25:30Speaker 1: way y'all made it, well, Sheila didn't either. Let's go
- 25:32Speaker 1: to Fox thirteen for the report. Police, Well, it started
- 25:34Speaker 1: over the taste of coffee. But now one man is
- 25:37Speaker 1: dead and his wife has been charged with his murder.
- 25:40Speaker 1: Police say Sheila down and stabbed her husband to death
- 25:44Speaker 1: yesterday at a home on Renwood Street, not before the
- 25:47Speaker 1: victim died. Police say he told them that the two
- 25:50Speaker 1: got in an argument over the taste of his coffee.
- 25:54Speaker 1: He says, down they got angry and try to drink bleach.
- 25:59Speaker 1: That's when he tried to stop her. She grabbed a
- 26:01Speaker 1: knife and then stabbed him multiple times. Police say that
- 26:05Speaker 1: Downey originally drove away from the scene, but it was
- 26:08Speaker 1: arrusted when she returned, the best part of waking up
- 26:12Speaker 1: my ass? Okay, imagine getting killed because you didn't say that. Okay,
- 26:19Speaker 1: my ass, y'all know what I meant at that. You
- 26:21Speaker 1: know they say the best part of waking up it's
- 26:23Speaker 1: folders in your cup. I said, the best part of
- 26:25Speaker 1: waking up my ass. Y'all know what I meant, wake up?
- 26:32Speaker 1: Wake up? As I was saying, okay, imagine getting killed
- 26:41Speaker 1: because you didn't like to tast of your coffee. Okay?
- 26:45Speaker 1: And what if that coffee you was drinking was death wish?
- 26:47Speaker 1: Do y'all carry that brandy? Death? Which coffee company? Right?
- 26:51Speaker 1: Death wish? Coffee company? Better? Hoping prayed this man wasn't
- 26:53Speaker 1: drinking their brand, because Lord ha mercy, that would be
- 26:55Speaker 1: terrible promotion. Listen, one thing for sure, Two things was certain.
- 26:58Speaker 1: I would never let anyone who bleach fixed my coffee,
- 27:01Speaker 1: because if she can stand in the taste the bleach,
- 27:03Speaker 1: then clearly her taste budget is a questionable. But the
- 27:05Speaker 1: reality is she was probably drinking the bleach because she
- 27:08Speaker 1: wanted to kill herself, and when that didn't work, she
- 27:10Speaker 1: got pushed to kill her husband. Look, man, let's be
- 27:12Speaker 1: clear about something, because we do this all the time
- 27:14Speaker 1: and regards the humans. This woman, Sheila, didn't kill her
- 27:17Speaker 1: husband over nor damn coffee. Okay. When you get to
- 27:19Speaker 1: the point where you kill someone over a cup of coffee,
- 27:21Speaker 1: you reached your tipping point in life, and with that
- 27:24Speaker 1: person a long time ago. And folgers had absolutely nothing
- 27:28Speaker 1: to do with it, all right. This woman was clearly
- 27:29Speaker 1: in pain. This woman was clearly hurting over something. This
- 27:32Speaker 1: is why I tell y'all constantly invest in your mental wealth,
- 27:35Speaker 1: all right, deal with your emotional health fixed with in
- 27:38Speaker 1: your head, okay, and in your heart. All right. Your
- 27:41Speaker 1: body is your temple. Your body is your house. And
- 27:43Speaker 1: if you don't deal with what's in your mental will house,
- 27:46Speaker 1: you can possibly possibly end up killing someone because of
- 27:49Speaker 1: maxwell house. All right. What's interesting about this is Sheila
- 27:52Speaker 1: probably could have used a cup of coffee your damn self,
- 27:54Speaker 1: all right. A lot of folks anxiety goes to the roof.
- 27:57Speaker 1: They don't get their coffee in the morning. All right.
- 27:58Speaker 1: My wife doesn't like to do anything, and she will
- 28:00Speaker 1: have an attitude until she gets a cup of coffee.
- 28:03Speaker 1: And there has been some research that shows coffee and
- 28:05Speaker 1: caffeine may decrease anxiety symptoms, so Sheila probably needed a
- 28:10Speaker 1: couple of Seattle's Best to take the edge off. All right.
- 28:13Speaker 1: No matter how strong a person is, they always have
- 28:16Speaker 1: a breaking point. And Sheila clearly reached her breaking point.
- 28:18Speaker 1: And she will have to get the healing she needs
- 28:21Speaker 1: in a state sponsor facility for the rest of her life.
- 28:23Speaker 1: And I would like to note that this situation completely mixed.
- 28:29Speaker 1: The quote a bad day with coffee is better than
- 28:32Speaker 1: a good day without it null and void. A bad
- 28:36Speaker 1: day with coffee is better than a good day without it.
- 28:39Speaker 1: That quote is nulling void, and that is complete bs.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Sheila's husband had a bad day. He got stabbed multiple
- 28:45Speaker 1: times and later died with his coffee. I'm just here
- 28:50Speaker 1: to make observations people, Okay, everybody in line that Starbucks
- 28:53Speaker 1: duncan and yee spot coffee upflips, people, carry on. Please
- 28:57Speaker 1: let him Mark give Sheila Downey the biggest see huh
- 29:00Speaker 1: he uh, you stupid mother? Are you dumb? We still
- 29:04Speaker 1: want to know what the best part of waking your
- 29:06Speaker 1: ass up its? How do you wake as the best
- 29:08Speaker 1: part of waking up my ass? All right, I don't
- 29:11Speaker 1: even know why that sounds like that. But y'all know
- 29:13Speaker 1: what I mean. You know what somebody says like such
- 29:15Speaker 1: and such my ass. No, I don't know why. No,
- 29:18Speaker 1: nobody's such and such as my ass. I don't know what.
- 29:20Speaker 1: I'm not gonna gaf like me. You're not gonna gafl
- 29:22Speaker 1: like me this morn I'm not gonna happen. I'm not
- 29:23Speaker 1: gonna what's gonna ask. You're not gonna do it. I'm
- 29:25Speaker 1: not gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna let
- 29:26Speaker 1: you do it. I'm not gonna let you gaff like
- 29:27Speaker 1: me this morning. Nope, got therapy to day. I'm gonna
- 29:29Speaker 1: do it. That should be a good hashtag, all right,
- 29:31Speaker 1: everybody hashtags. Part of waking up my asste means favorite
- 29:37Speaker 1: number waking up in No ass, that's not what I'll say.
- 29:41Speaker 1: We didn't even say that. That's what it means to say.
- 29:43Speaker 1: If you just said that under your breath, I heard you,
- 29:44Speaker 1: and everybody heard you. Rewind the tape you just said that. Nope,
- 29:48Speaker 1: you can't. Nobody can't get you. Don't play gay Bill. Well,
- 29:53Speaker 1: we brought into this studio this week. What did that
- 29:57Speaker 1: guy tell you? George as soon as I get the
- 29:59Speaker 1: Honorable Don o' rollands to notorize that there will be
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