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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome back to the deep Dive. Today, we're looking at
- 0:02a case that, well, it just sat there, a puzzle
- 0:04unsolved for almost forty years. It's a really chilling story.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Yeah, a suburban tragedy that just defied explanation for decades.
- 0:12Speaker 1: We're heading to Brighton, New York. It's generally a quiet,
- 0:15pretty affluent town near Rochester, and the date is specific
- 0:20a very cold Friday, February nineteenth, nineteen eighty.
- 0:24Speaker 2: Two, and that was the day everything fell apart on
- 0:26Thornell Road. The core of this whole thing is the
- 0:28murder of Kathleen Krausneck Kathy. She was only twenty.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Nine, and the way she was killed is just brutal
- 0:33in her own bed, a single incredibly forceful blow from
- 0:37a household axe.
- 0:38Speaker 2: An axe which was then left embedded in her skull.
- 0:42It's horrific.
- 0:43Speaker 1: So here's the central mystery we're digging into today, the
- 0:45thing that kept this case cold for so long. You've
- 0:48got this extreme personal violence right up close and then
- 0:52immediately contrasted with this really strange, almost clumsy attempt to
- 0:57stage the crime scene, like trying to make it look
- 0:59like something it was.
- 1:00Speaker 2: It absolutely screamed random break in, you know, but the details,
- 1:05even back then, they just didn't quite fit that narrative.
- 1:07Something felt off.
- 1:09Speaker 1: So our mission here for you listening is to really
- 1:12trace how this cold case was brought back to life,
- 1:15how investigators using much newer techniques finally managed to see
- 1:19through that original staging exactly.
- 1:21Speaker 2: We'll go from what looked like this perfect suburban life,
- 1:24the American dream, all the way through to the forensic evidence,
- 1:27things like bloodstained patterns, a reevaluated time of death that
- 1:31eventually pointed right at the killer, someone who'd been hiding
- 1:34in plain sight all.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Along, and the shock of it using an axe, I
- 1:38mean something probably from their own garage. It suggests such familiarity,
- 1:42such intent. It wasn't random, No, not at all.
- 1:45Speaker 2: That choice of weapons speaks volumes, hashtag tag eye the
- 1:48illusion of the American Dream.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Okay, so let's paint the picture of who the crowds
- 1:51next were. Jim and Kathy. On the surface, back in
- 1:54the late seventies early eighties, they seemed like the model
- 1:56young couple, right, educated, ambitious.
- 1:59Speaker 2: They really Kathy Schlosser. She was born in fifty two.
- 2:03Friends and family describe her as just warm, a real nurturer.
- 2:08Her sister called her the light of the.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Family, and she had a demanding career too.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Yeah, she was an orthopedic therapist, helping people recover from
- 2:15serious injuries regain movement. It takes a lot of dedication.
- 2:19Speaker 1: And Jim Krausnick Junior, her husband same age, also ambitious.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Very much so, but his focus was different economics, major
- 2:28aiming for the corporate world, described as quite charismatic, definitely
- 2:33driven towards financial success.
- 2:34Speaker 1: And their life together seemed to follow that classic upward path.
- 2:38Married in seventy four.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Then they moved out west to Fort Collins, Colorado. Jim
- 2:43was doing his graduate work at Colorado State.
- 2:46Speaker 1: And it's important, isn't it that Kathy was the main
- 2:47breadwinner during that.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Time, Absolutely crucial. She was working as a therapist, supporting
- 2:51them both while Jim focused entirely on his studies. That
- 2:54set up, you know, requires teamwork.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Then came their daughter, Sarah, born in seventy eight. They'd
- 2:59moved to Lynch, Virginia.
- 3:00Speaker 2: By then, right and Sarah, by all accounts, became Kathy's world,
- 3:04her absolute focus, which likely played into the next big move,
- 3:09the move back.
- 3:10Speaker 1: To Brighton, New York. Late nineteen eighty one. This was
- 3:13supposed to be the homecoming, right closer to Kathy's family.
- 3:16Her sister's Annette and Kathy lived nearby.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Exactly, and Jim landed what seemed like a great job
- 3:21and economist position at Eastman Kodak. Kodak was the employer
- 3:25in Rochester back then, a real symbol of stability and success.
- 3:29Speaker 1: They bought a house, a nice colonial on Thornell Road.
- 3:33Everything looked perfect from the outside.
- 3:34Speaker 2: The picture perfect suburban life.
- 3:36Speaker 1: But and this is a huge but that became central later,
- 3:40Beneath that surface, there were some serious cracks appearing, particularly financially.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Yeah, the sources are really clear on this. Despite the
- 3:47prestigious Kodak job, jim salary was well modest for the time,
- 3:50around twenty five thousand dollars a year.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Which sounds okay for eighty one, But they.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Had significant student loan debt from Jim's studies. Plus they'd
- 3:58just taken on a big mortgage for this house and
- 4:00an expensive neighborhood. There were definitely stretched thin, house poor,
- 4:03you could say.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And adding to that pressure was the fact that Kathy
- 4:06wasn't working anymore. Right, She'd stepped back from her career
- 4:09to raise Sarah full time.
- 4:10Speaker 2: Correct, so her income which had supported them earlier, was gone.
- 4:13Everything was writing on Jim's single salary, which just wasn't
- 4:16quite enough to cover everything comfortably.
- 4:18Speaker 1: Did friends notice the strain looking back?
- 4:20Speaker 2: Yes, some mentioned subtle tensions. Jim was working very long
- 4:25hours at Kodak, trying to make his mark, which meant
- 4:27he wasn't home a lot, and Kathy, who was used
- 4:30to her professional independence and income, was now financially reliant
- 4:34on Jim. Adjusting to a new town, new house, full
- 4:37time motherhood.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Right.
- 4:38Speaker 2: It created this, this.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Dissonance between the image and the reality.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Precisely the Kodak executive, the devoted mom, the lovely house
- 4:47versus the private reality of dead and likely some growing friction.
- 4:52It was the classic American dream chase, but it was
- 4:54taking its toll hashtags tag two, the Morning of Horror,
- 4:58and the stage scene nineteen eighty two.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got this underlying tension, this financial stress
- 5:03bubbling away. Then comes that Friday morning, February nineteenth. Let's
- 5:08get into Jim Krou's next timeline, the story he told police,
- 5:12the one he's stuck to for almost forty years, right.
- 5:14Speaker 2: His account was very specific. He said he left the
- 5:17house around eight thirty AM. Kathy was still asleep, apparently
- 5:20she'd been up late. Then he took their daughter, three
- 5:23year old Sarah, to her daycare provider. From there, he
- 5:27drove to work at Kodak, clocking in. He said by
- 5:30nine to fifteen am.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Worked a full day, yep.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Worked until about five pm, picked Sarah up from daycare,
- 5:36and then they arrived back home around six pm. And
- 5:39that's when he supposedly made the discovery.
- 5:41Speaker 1: In his reaction at that moment of discovery, as he
- 5:43described it, finding Kathy upstairs, what did he do immediately?
- 5:48Speaker 2: This is critical. He didn't call nine one one from
- 5:50the house phone. No, no, His stated immediate action was
- 5:53to grab Sarah, run out of the house, and go
- 5:55straight next door to the neighbor, James Speaker.
- 5:57Speaker 1: And Speaker made the call.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Yes, Speaker called nice and Spaker's testimony later was important.
- 6:03He described Jim as trembling, having this look of terror,
- 6:06barely able to speak coherently. He certainly looked like a
- 6:10man in profound shock, which.
- 6:11Speaker 1: You know could seem genuine. But then the police arrived,
- 6:14Detective James Cool the initial investigators, they start looking at
- 6:18the scene itself and things start to not add up right,
- 6:22the violence versus the staging exactly.
- 6:24Speaker 2: The contradictions were immediate. First, the attack itself, that single
- 6:28devastating axe blow. It suggested immense force, maybe even rage,
- 6:32an overkill level of violence, as investigators sometimes call it,
- 6:36but done efficiently, one blow, one blow, precisely suggesting someone
- 6:40who perhaps knew how to handle such a tool. But
- 6:43then you contrast that focused violence with the almost theatrical
- 6:46staging downstairs.
- 6:48Speaker 1: The supposed break in. Tell us about the basement window
- 6:50and the drawers. What was wrong with that picture?
- 6:52Speaker 2: Okay, the window first, it was broken, yes, but the
- 6:55glass shards were scattered inward onto the basement floor.
- 6:58Speaker 1: So someone broke it from outside.
- 6:59Speaker 2: To get in, they'd have to step over or through
- 7:01that glass. But the glass was undisturbed. Plus there were
- 7:05no footprints in the snow or mud outside that window.
- 7:09It strongly suggested the window was broken from the inside,
- 7:12maybe on the way out, to fake an entry point.
- 7:15Speaker 1: And the robbery part the rifle.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Drawers downstairs, drawers were pulled open, Kathy's purse was emptied out,
- 7:22but nothing of value was actually missing. No cash, no jewelry,
- 7:26no portable electronics like a TV. It looked like someone
- 7:29going through the motions of a robbery without actually taking anything.
- 7:32Highly unusual.
- 7:33Speaker 1: It almost sounds rushed, doesn't it, Like a quick, panicked
- 7:37attempt to create a diversion before say, heading off to
- 7:40work to establish an alibi.
- 7:41Speaker 2: That's certainly how investigators started to see it. And there
- 7:44was another problem for Jim's story even back in eighty two.
- 7:47The initial medical examiner's time of death estimate.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Ah right, what did they think? Initially?
- 7:52Speaker 2: Based on early observations body temperature rigormorti is setting in
- 7:55the estimate was somewhere between eight am in noon.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Which overlaps directly with when Jim claimed he was leaving
- 8:00the house, dropping off Sarah or driving to Kodak.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Exactly if he left at eight thirty, the murder could
- 8:06have happened very shortly after, or even while he was
- 8:09supposedly on his way to work. That timing inconsistency was
- 8:12the first major crack in his alibi, forcing police to
- 8:16consider him the prime suspect despite his apparent cooperation.
- 8:20Speaker 1: And then there's the truly awful part. Sarah, three years old,
- 8:25she was in the house during all of this.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Her initial interviews were just heartbreaking and also deeply confusing
- 8:30for investigators. Child psychologists spoke with her.
- 8:34Speaker 1: What did she say?
- 8:35Speaker 2: She described seeing a bad man in the bed with
- 8:37an axe in his head.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 8:40Speaker 2: But when they tried to get a description of this
- 8:42bad man, hoping for clues about an intruder, Sarah said
- 8:45something very strange. She said the man was many.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Colors, many colors. What did the detectives like Mark Flood
- 8:52make of that?
- 8:53Speaker 2: They came to a chilling conclusion. They believed she wasn't
- 8:56describing an actual person, an intruder she saw commit the act. Instead,
- 8:59she was likely describing the horrifying sight of her mother's
- 9:02body hours later. You mean the blood, Yes, the blood,
- 9:06the distortion of her face from the injury. In the
- 9:10dim light of the bedroom, A traumatized three year old
- 9:12might perceive that as a strange, multicolored figure. The fact
- 9:16she saw the axe in his head suggests she wandered
- 9:19into that room long after the murder.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Sometime during those nine hours she was alone in.
- 9:24Speaker 2: The house precisely between roughly eight thirty am when Jim
- 9:28left and six pm when he returned, and staged the discovery.
- 9:31It meant Sarah hadn't witnessed an intruder, she'd witnessed the aftermath.
- 9:35Speaker 1: That realization that he potentially left his toddler daughter alone
- 9:40with her murdered mother's body all day while he was
- 9:42at work. It's almost unthinkable.
- 9:45Speaker 2: It speaks to a terrifying level of calculation, doesn't it.
- 9:48The need to secure that alibiic codac seemingly outweighed everything else.
- 9:52Then the dramatic dash to the neighbor's house, the look
- 9:55of terror could be seen as performance masking that calculation.
- 9:58Hashtag tag three early suspicions and the case goes cold.
- 10:02Speaker 1: So despite Jim seeming cooperative, he apparently passed polygraphs allowed searches.
- 10:06These inconsistencies were glaring, and back in the eighties, police
- 10:08thinking often pointed towards the spouse in cases like this.
- 10:11Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, Statistically it's the most common scenario. Jim fit
- 10:15the profile. He had the opportunity being the last known
- 10:19person to see her alive beside Sarah, he had access
- 10:22to the house obviously, and as we discussed, there was
- 10:25this emerging picture of motive, the financial stress, the possible
- 10:29marital friction, even.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Without today's DNA technology, The focus state on him pretty much.
- 10:34Speaker 2: He was always the primary suspect, but proving it back
- 10:37then was the challenge. They needed more than just motive
- 10:40and those early inconsistencies.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Let's go back to the physical evidence inconsistencies. The window.
- 10:46He claimed it was intact when he left. What did
- 10:48they suspect about the tool used to break it?
- 10:51Speaker 2: Well, evidence suggested it wasn't just broken from the inside,
- 10:54but possibly with another tool from the garage, an axemall,
- 10:57like a heavy splitting.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Tool, which doesn't make make sense if an intruder brought
- 11:01the murder weapon the ax.
- 11:03Speaker 2: Exactly, why would an intruder who already has an AX
- 11:06stop to find another heavy tool in the garage just
- 11:09to break a window on the way out. It feels
- 11:11like staging. It implies maybe he broke the window, staged
- 11:14the messy drawers, possibly returned the mall to the garage,
- 11:17and then left for work.
- 11:19Speaker 1: And you can't overlook that massive financial motive the life insurance.
- 11:23Speaker 2: How much was it ninety thousand dollars, which in nineteen
- 11:28eighty two for a young family struggling with debt, was
- 11:30a huge amount of money.
- 11:32Speaker 1: A potential lifeline, a.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Complete fresh start financially, and if you look at what
- 11:36happened next in his life, it really fuels that motive theory.
- 11:40Jim collected the insurance money, he quit the Kodak job relatively.
- 11:43Speaker 1: Quickly, did stay long at all.
- 11:45Speaker 2: No, and he successfully pivoted into consulting, which turned out
- 11:48to be very lucrative for him. He eventually became a
- 11:51vice president at a fortune five hundred company. He didn't
- 11:55just recover, He used the situation arguably to catapult himself
- 11:59financially in profession.
- 12:00Speaker 1: And he didn't stick around Brighton neither did.
- 12:01Speaker 2: He not for long. Within about three years, by nineteen
- 12:04eighty five, he'd remarried to a woman named Sharon and
- 12:07moved himself and Sarah clear across the country to Arizona.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Thousands of miles away from the crime scene from the investigation.
- 12:14Speaker 2: It was effectively the perfect way to let the case
- 12:17go cold distance, a new life, a new wife. He
- 12:21kept up the appearance of the grieving widower. He even
- 12:24funded billboards asking for tips about this phantom intruder.
- 12:28Speaker 1: While creating this narrative for Sarah.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Presumably right, but this created a deep unspoken rift with Kathy's.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Family, especially her sister ann At Schlasser. She never bought
- 12:39the intruder story, did she never?
- 12:42Speaker 2: For decades she held on to her conviction. There's a
- 12:44quote from her years later, just simple and powerful. He
- 12:47slept next to her every night. Who else could it be?
- 12:50Speaker 1: So while Jim was publicly asking for help finding a.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Killer, Kathy's family silently believed he was the killer. This
- 12:56led to a long, painful estrangement from Sarah, who grew
- 12:59up believing her father was innocent, a victim himself.
- 13:02Speaker 1: And the case just stalled completely.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Leeds went nowhere. Police looked into other possibility, It's a
- 13:08transient handyman, maybe a jilted lover, but nothing panned out.
- 13:11The forensic science of the eighties just hit a wall.
- 13:13They couldn't definitively analyze the blood evidence in the way
- 13:16we can now, couldn't pin down that time of death
- 13:19tightly enough. Jim's story his alibi, however, shaky held up.
- 13:24Hashtag tag five or v cold case revival and the
- 13:27forensic breakthroughs.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Okay, So fast forward decades the case is gathering dust. Then,
- 13:32in twenty twelve, Moroe County establishes a dedicated cold case
- 13:36unit and Detective Mark Libertor picks up the Krausneck file.
- 13:40What was his thinking taking on a case that seemed
- 13:42unsolvable for thirty years?
- 13:44Speaker 2: Liberator knew the answer probably wasn't going to come from
- 13:46finding a new witness after all that time. The key
- 13:49had to be in re examining the original physical evidence
- 13:51with modernized modern technology.
- 13:54Speaker 1: His goal was basically to break that alibi.
- 13:56Speaker 2: Pretty much prove Jim wasn't where he said he was,
- 13:58or crucially proved them murder happened at a time Jim
- 14:01couldn't have been at work. He needed to dismantle that
- 14:04nine to fifteen am clock in time significance.
- 14:07Speaker 1: But right away they hit a major curveball, didn't they.
- 14:09This confession from another.
- 14:10Speaker 2: Man, Oh yeah, a huge potential detour. Edward Larabee. He
- 14:15was a convicted sex offender, already in prison in Arizona,
- 14:18and he was dying in twenty twelve.
- 14:21Speaker 1: He confessed to Kathy's murder.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Yes, and also to another unsolved local murdyer from nineteen
- 14:26ninety one of a music teacher named Stephanie Kopcinski. Because
- 14:31Larabee was from Brighton, had a history of violence and burglary.
- 14:35Police absolutely had to take his confession seriously.
- 14:38Speaker 1: And they actually proved he was involved in the other case.
- 14:40Speaker 2: They did DNA evidence confirmed Larabee was guilty of strangling
- 14:44Stephanie Koupcinski, so he was definitely a killer.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Which must have made his confession about Kathy seem very credible.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Initially for a moment, yes, but when they looked closely
- 14:54at the details he gave about the Krausnik murder, his
- 14:57story fell apart. His description of the attack didn't match.
- 15:01He talked about multiple blows, Kathy suffered only one. He
- 15:04claimed he stole specific items that were later found untouched
- 15:07in the house, and critically his timeline when checked against
- 15:11records of where he was in nineteen eighty two, his
- 15:13own incarcerations and movements, it just didn't line up. He
- 15:16couldn't have.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Been there, so it was a false confession regarding Kathy.
- 15:20Speaker 2: It seems so. Larabie died in twenty fourteen, so we
- 15:23can't know his motive for lying about the crafts Neck case,
- 15:26but it wasted valuable time. Once he was definitively ruled out,
- 15:30Libertorre could refocus entirely on Jim, and.
- 15:33Speaker 1: This is where the science really starts to shine. They
- 15:36go back to the original evidence, starting with something seemingly small,
- 15:39Gem's boat shoes.
- 15:41Speaker 2: The boat shoes turned out to be incredibly important. Back
- 15:43in eighty two, police noted trace amounts of blood on
- 15:46them matching Kathy's blood type. But that was about all
- 15:49they could do.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Then, what could modern forensics do Differently?
- 15:52Speaker 2: They could perform blood stained pattern analysis BPA. It's not
- 15:55just about if blood is present, but how it got there.
- 15:59What story does the pattern?
- 16:00Speaker 1: Tewel Okay explain that, What kind of pattern would you
- 16:03expect if he'd been there during the attack versus finding
- 16:06the body later?
- 16:07Speaker 2: Right, the initial ax blow would create high velocity spatter,
- 16:11fine misty droplets sprayed outwards, maybe cast off patterns if
- 16:15the weapon was swung again, though here it was just
- 16:17one blow. If Jim was present during the murder, his
- 16:21shoes might show that kind of directional spatter.
- 16:24Speaker 1: But that's not what they found.
- 16:25Speaker 2: No, the BPA experts looked at the few drops on
- 16:28his shoes and concluded they were consistent with stepping into
- 16:31pooled settled blood.
- 16:33Speaker 1: Settled blood meaning it had been there for a while exactly.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Blood needs time to flow collect and start to coagulate
- 16:41to form a pool like that. The pattern was an
- 16:43impact spatter. It was a transfer stain consistent with stepping
- 16:46into blood that had already settled due to gravity hours
- 16:49after the injury occurred.
- 16:51Speaker 1: So that directly contradicts his story of discovering the scene
- 16:54right after getting home from work at six pm.
- 16:56Speaker 2: Completely. It proved he encountered a scene that was already
- 16:59hours the blood had had time to pool significantly. It
- 17:03demolished the idea of a fresh discovery.
- 17:06Speaker 1: That's huge on its own. But they didn't stop there.
- 17:08They re examined the crime scene photos too.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Yes, they brought in private labs, forensic visualization experts. They
- 17:15looked at those original nineteen eighty two photos with fresh
- 17:18eyes and modern understanding.
- 17:19Speaker 1: Of staging, and they confirmed the staging they did.
- 17:22Speaker 2: They noted how the rifle drawers looked too orderly, almost
- 17:26carefully placed, not violently torn through like in a real
- 17:29frantic search. And they reaffirmed the significance of no footprints
- 17:33outside that broken basement window. It all pointed to a
- 17:36scene manufactured after the murder, not evidence of a real
- 17:40break in.
- 17:40Speaker 1: Okay, so you have the staging confirmed. The blood evidence
- 17:43pointing to a delayed discovery. What was the final nail
- 17:46in the coffin.
- 17:47Speaker 2: For the alibi the time of death. They needed to
- 17:50narrow down that vague eight am to noon window from
- 17:53nineteen eighty two. Through a grant, they were able to
- 17:55exhume Kathy's body in twenty eighteen.
- 17:58Speaker 1: And they brought in a big name for their ritopsy,
- 18:00a very.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Big name, doctor Michael Baden, famed forensic pathologist known for
- 18:05working on high profile complex cases. His involvement showed how
- 18:08serious this reinvestigation was.
- 18:11Speaker 3: What was Baden able to determine after all those years
- 18:14By analyzing preserved tissues, looking at things like stomach contents
- 18:17the state of degradation, he was able to provide a
- 18:21much more.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Precise time of death. He narrowed it down definitivelyen between
- 18:26ten am and two pm.
- 18:27Speaker 1: Wow, right in the middle of the standard work.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Day, exactly smack bang in the hours Jim Krausnett claimed
- 18:34he was working diligently at Kodak. It completely ruled out
- 18:37any possibility of an overnight intruder being responsible.
- 18:40Speaker 1: And did this new time frame align with anything from
- 18:43Jim's supposed work day.
- 18:45Speaker 2: Crucially, yes, investigators found entries in his Kodak work log
- 18:49indicating he was briefly out or unaccounted for sometime mid morning.
- 18:53It suggested a window where he could have potentially left work,
- 18:56gone home, committed the murder, staged the scene, and returned.
- 19:00Speaker 1: So the science finally lined up the staging, the blood
- 19:03on the shoes showing late discovery, and now Baden's time
- 19:06of death, placing the murder squarely during Jim's claimed work day,
- 19:09potentially during that brief absence.
- 19:11Speaker 2: It became an overwhelming interlocking puzzle. The cumulative weight of
- 19:16the modern forensic analysis was undeniable, and based on all
- 19:20of that, Jim Krausneck, then sixty seven years old, was
- 19:24arrested in Arizona on November eighth, twenty nineteen.
- 19:27Speaker 1: Charged with second degree murder, thirty seven years after Cathy's death.
- 19:30Incredible hashtage tag v the trial, conviction and aftermath. So
- 19:35the trial finally happens in twenty twenty two Monroe County Court.
- 19:39This must have been intense after decades of suspicion and waiting.
- 19:43Prosecutor Michael Catholdy lays out the case against Jim. What
- 19:46was the core argument?
- 19:48Speaker 2: Catholdy painted Jim as cold, calculating, and driven primarily by money.
- 19:52The theory was that the financial pressure, the debt, the mortgage,
- 19:56had become unbearable, that ninety thousand dollars life insurance policy
- 19:59was presented. It does the escape route?
- 20:01Speaker 1: Did they emphasize the marital problems much.
- 20:03Speaker 2: They mentioned the underlying tension, the stress, but they didn't
- 20:06lean heavily on unsubstantiated rumors about an affair Cathy might
- 20:09have been having. The focus was really on the financial
- 20:11desperation as the key motive, and.
- 20:13Speaker 1: The prosecution's timeline of the crime itself. How did they
- 20:16reconstruct that day?
- 20:17Speaker 2: Their theory was methodical. Jim leaves for work, but sometime
- 20:21mid morning, maybe around eleven fifteen, when his log showed
- 20:25him briefly out, he returns home. He kills Kathy with
- 20:28the acts and stage is the scene. Yes, quickly stages
- 20:32the breaking downstairs the rifle drawers, breaks the window from inside,
- 20:36then returns to Kodak to make sure his alibi looks
- 20:39solid for the rest of.
- 20:39Speaker 1: The afternoon, leaving Sarah there alone.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Leaving three year old Sarah alone in the house with
- 20:44her mother's body for roughly nine hours. Then he comes
- 20:47home at six pm, picks up Sarah and performs the
- 20:50shock discovery for the neighbor.
- 20:52Speaker 1: It's a chilling narrative. And what was the key evidence
- 20:55they hammered home to the jury.
- 20:56Speaker 2: It was all about the science that destroyed the alibi,
- 20:59the boat proving he stepped in pooled blood, meaning a
- 21:03much later discovery than he claimed, and doctor Baden's time
- 21:06of death, putting the murders squarely in the time frame
- 21:09he was supposedly at work. Those two pillars held up
- 21:12the entire case.
- 21:13Speaker 1: The defense, led by Charles Greenberg, obviously faced an uphill
- 21:17battle against that forensic evidence. How did they try to
- 21:20create doubt?
- 21:21Speaker 2: Their main strategy was to emphasize the sheer passage of
- 21:25time forty years. Greenberg argued the evidence was old, purely circumstantial.
- 21:31Circumstantial at best was his phrase.
- 21:33Speaker 1: What about the lack of DNA on the axe?
- 21:35Speaker 2: He definitely highlighted that the axe handle had been wiped clean,
- 21:39no fingerprints, no DNA linking Jim directly to the murder
- 21:42weapon itself. He questioned the reliability of memories and evidence
- 21:46after four decades, and.
- 21:48Speaker 1: They tried to use Jim's life after the murder.
- 21:50Speaker 2: As a defense too, Yes, they argued, why would a
- 21:53guilty man stay, why would he raise Sarah alone under
- 21:56this cloud of suspicion? Maintaining the charade for so long,
- 22:00They tried to portray him as the devoted father, the
- 22:02victim of circumstance whose life was also ruined.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Did Jim testify?
- 22:06Speaker 2: He did, took the stance in his own defense, maintained
- 22:08his innocence, professed his love for Cathy, denied hurting her.
- 22:12He was trying to appeal directly to the jury's emotions,
- 22:14reinforce that image of the grieving widower.
- 22:17Speaker 1: But the emotional core of this trial, tragically must have
- 22:20been Sarah's testimony, Jim's daughter, now grown a social worker herself.
- 22:24Speaker 2: It was incredibly difficult to watch. By all accounts, Sarah,
- 22:28now forty four, testified for her father. She was fiercely
- 22:33loyal what she say, she told the court tearfully. I
- 22:36believe in his innocence because I've lived it for her
- 22:39entire life. Her reality had been shaped by the narrative
- 22:42that her father was innocent, that they were victims together.
- 22:45Speaker 1: But the prosecution had something to counter that loyalty, didn't
- 22:48they something from her childhood.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Yes, a devastating piece of evidence. They introduced drawings Sarah
- 22:53had made as a very young child right after the murder.
- 22:57Those drawings apparently depicted a bad daddy whole an axe.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Oh wow.
- 23:01Speaker 2: It starkly illustrated the conflict for the jury, her adult
- 23:05conviction based on a lifetime with her father versus these fragmented,
- 23:09potentially traumatic images from her earliest memories.
- 23:12Speaker 1: So the jury had these two conflicting pictures, the daughter's
- 23:16heartfelt belief versus the cold hard.
- 23:18Speaker 2: Science exactly, the emotional defense versus the forensic evidence. And
- 23:22in the end, the science was just too compelling.
- 23:24Speaker 1: How long did they deliberate after a.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Three week trial, The jury took about two days. On
- 23:29December eighteenth, twenty twenty three, they came back with the
- 23:31verdict guilty, guilty of second degree murder, the bloodstains, the timeline.
- 23:37It was just too much evidence pointing in one direction,
- 23:39and the sentence. In April twenty twenty four, Jim Krausneck
- 23:43was sentenced to twenty five years to life. He's now
- 23:46seventy two, appealing the conviction from Cocksacky Correctional Facility. His
- 23:50second wife Sharon continues to support him and maintains his innocence.
- 23:54Speaker 1: What's the legacy of this case, then.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Well, it's seen as a major success story for cold
- 23:59case investingation, a perfect example of combining that old fashioned
- 24:02detective persistence, keeping the file active, never giving up, with
- 24:06the power of modern forensic science.
- 24:08Speaker 1: And for the community.
- 24:09Speaker 2: For Brighton, it was a scar, a reminder that terrible
- 24:12things can happen even in seemingly safe, idyllic places, often
- 24:15behind closed doors. And for Kathy's sister and at Schlosser,
- 24:18after nearly forty years of waiting and believing, finally some
- 24:23measure of closure hashtag tag outro.
- 24:26Speaker 1: So looking back at this deep dive into the Brighton
- 24:28ex murder, there are some really key takeaways, aren't there,
- 24:31Especially about how investigations work now.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Absolutely first, you really see the power of advanced bloodstained
- 24:37pattern analysis. It's not just confirming blood type anymore, it's
- 24:41reading the physics of the event. How did the blood
- 24:44get there? When? That ability to sequence events to determine
- 24:48when Jim encountered the scene based on the blood itself
- 24:51was just crucial in dismantling his alibi.
- 24:54Speaker 1: It effectively timestamped his discovery in a way they couldn't
- 24:56in eighty two precisely.
- 24:58Speaker 2: And second, the impact of forensic reevaluation, especially the autopsy.
- 25:03That original time of death was just too wide, too vague.
- 25:07Doctor Baden, using modern techniques, even on decades old remains,
- 25:11could narrow it down to that critical ten am to
- 25:13two pm window.
- 25:15Speaker 1: Which lined up perfectly with the motive, the staging evidence, everything.
- 25:18It shows that old evidence isn't necessarily useless, it just
- 25:21might need new science applied to it.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Exactly right. It was that convergence motive, staging proof, the
- 25:26blood evidence, and the definitive time of death that finally
- 25:29made the case undeniable.
- 25:30Speaker 1: It's also just a stark reminder, isn't it how someone
- 25:33can maintain such a convincing public facade, the successful executive,
- 25:38the loving single dad for decades while hiding this incredibly
- 25:42dark secret.
- 25:43Speaker 2: It really is the ability to compartmentalize, to live that
- 25:46double life is quite chilling.
- 25:48Speaker 1: That brings us, I think, to the final thought here,
- 25:50the human element, particularly Sarah's story, the immense loyalty, the
- 25:55denial that can exist within families caught up in such
- 25:58horrific events.
- 25:59Speaker 2: Yeah, if Sarah caught in this impossible position, her entire
- 26:02life experience telling her one thing her father is loving, devoted, innocent,
- 26:07colliding head on with the scientific evidence and even echoes
- 26:10of her own childhood trauma in those drawings.
- 26:12Speaker 1: So the question that we're kind of left with for
- 26:15you listening is a difficult one. When someone you love,
- 26:17someone whose public image and personal devotion seems so real
- 26:21for so long, is confronted with cold, hard proof of
- 26:24terrible actions. Can a person ever truly reconcile those two realities?
- 26:29Speaker 2: Can you bridge that gap between the person you thought
- 26:31you knew and the person the evidence says they are,
- 26:34especially after forty years, It's a profound psychological burden to
- 26:38place on anyone