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- 0:07All right, so welcome into the live stream. We're gonna be breaking down,
- 0:09of course, the big news from last night, and that is the
- 0:12eth ETF approval. What could be next are what's happening out there in the
- 0:17market right now? Why isn't coming off the hook? We'll break it all
- 0:20down for you, guys. You're gonna love it. My name is Paul
- 0:22Barre. Welcome back in the tech path. Let's just jump into the topic
- 0:26that, of course everybody's talking about right now, and that is the SEC
- 0:29approved eight ethereum ETFs. There you have at grayscale, bitwise, I Shares,
- 0:34Van k Are twenty one, all the names that we typically know from
- 0:37the bitcoin ETFs. Also jumping into the eth ETF game of course Fidelity and
- 0:44Franklin, Templeton coming in there as well. A lot of good names in
- 0:48here because of the interest in ethereum. And what I mean by that is
- 0:52we've talked about this and had them on the show many times. If you
- 0:55look at not only the Fidelity team, the Franklin team, the Van k
- 1:00team, all I think have a pretty good edge on where this might be
- 1:03going. So the key here is they're going to be pitching this to their
- 1:07clients. So that's the thing that will help it grow other things out there.
- 1:11Just in black Rocks Spot ETF has been listened on the ETCC, So
- 1:15that's next step. This will be called E T h A. I like
- 1:19that ETHA. That's a good one. Further into this, here's Metalama on
- 1:23James Murphy coming in SEC approval of applicants by various exchanges to list ETFs,
- 1:30constitute of declaration by the SEC that eth is a commodity. That of course
- 1:36has been something that Metala and I talk about often, and the positioning that
- 1:41the SEC has had. I think all of this has leaned into what really
- 1:46has started from a regulatory standpoint. I think this has kind of moved so
- 1:49quickly. SAB one twenty one was probably the accelerant that created this. You
- 1:56then throw in a little trump, you know, magic, and then you've
- 1:59got all this happening in Congress, and now everybody kind of understands this is
- 2:04the next step in evolution for finance. So all of it somewhat expected out
- 2:08there. Further into this, I want to go into this tweet right here.
- 2:14This is James Seyffert. He was kind of hitting it saying, hey,
- 2:17guys, it's not happening. And then right after that, of course
- 2:21he was all right, boom, we're approved. So you know, zoom
- 2:23in on that, and you know, James he hit this. Actually James
- 2:27was on our show. I think this might have been the time in which
- 2:30he actually did call it. And let's go to that clip real quick.
- 2:32Let's let's take a look or what's your theory on how ethereum might make it
- 2:37into an ETF. So for ethereum lovers, you're not going to want to
- 2:39you're not going to like this answer. But we say active congress. Usually
- 2:43you say that like something like crazy needs to happen, but like you actually
- 2:46probably do need an active congress before in etherory m ETF is approves. Well,
- 2:51there you go it. James has hit it because he said we would
- 2:53need an Act of Congress. And what did we get? We got an
- 2:55Act of Congress to do it, And of course I think that was the
- 3:00trigger. Of course, we'll continue to see I think a lot of interesting
- 3:04moves around what may move strategically, of especially in reference to positioning the strength
- 3:12of this CTF, because I think that's the next real question I'm when I
- 3:15say this ETF, the group of ETFs, and that is how is it
- 3:19going to perform against the Bitcoin ETF? How will that play out? A
- 3:22lot of people are really looking at that. Now. There's one clip here
- 3:24from Jay Clayton who gets into why this might be a little bit different.
- 3:30Listen it. Gary Gensler and the SEC went kicking and screaming to allow the
- 3:36Bitcoin ETF and only did so because a judge effectively said you have to.
- 3:42This is different. So what is different this time is what is different this
- 3:46time is there was a settled issue of whether the underlier bitcoin here, the
- 3:52underlier is ethereum was a security or not, or transactions at bitcoin were securities
- 3:57transactions. The SEC has not defer inatively said up till now, and they
- 4:01still haven't definitively said that underlying transactions and ethereum are not securities transactions. Is
- 4:10part of this because of what Congress just did this week to pass this first
- 4:13crypto bill and basically say it's going to be the CFTC that is overseeing all
- 4:17of this. Is this then putting another chip on the table saying wait a
- 4:20second, we want to claim our our legal framework for this progress development.
- 4:27Whatever you want to call it in the space was always going to be incremental.
- 4:30What did they do this week in Congress or over the last couple of
- 4:32weeks, they made more clarity around custody and the cost of providing custody services
- 4:38for digital assets because they weren't happy with the way the SEC had done it.
- 4:42Now with this bill, they're saying, look, we want a path
- 4:46for products likeum other digital assets to be able to trade like securities. So
- 4:51there you have other digital assets. And this also looms in on the SEC
- 4:57being so quiet about this. Here was Eleanor Taratt coming in from Fox Business.
- 5:00There a little tidbit she received Commissioner Crenshaw is actually out on attorney ly
- 5:05this was delegated the authority means the commission let staff approve the eth ETF on
- 5:12its behalf. So a very interesting move there by the SEC, I think
- 5:15in terms of this getting through. And remember, you know, zero statements
- 5:20from the SEC commissioners right now on the spot ETF, so silence definitely.
- 5:25I agree with Nate Garussi. They're saying it speaks volumes going into this.
- 5:30The key here is what's next step. Also, what happens after that?
- 5:32We'll get into all of that. We're going to be dropping another video by
- 5:35the way, that will break down a lot of the projects that we think
- 5:40could potentially flow into maybe what's next, but also a litany of new ETFs
- 5:46that most likely will hit the markets now that we've seen some clarity start to
- 5:50align very quickly. Here's analyst predicting that ETFs to launch by mid June.
- 5:58A couple of points they hit on here, guess is only one round of
- 6:00comments on the S ones. That's really what has to happen next, because
- 6:03that would be the final approval, really the S one, So that's a
- 6:06big deal, certainly a possibility, so just a guess we'll see. This
- 6:11was coming in from Balshunis. And then of course expectations for the spot ETFs
- 6:16are high. Safer predicts they could track twenty percent of the spot by cooin
- 6:19etf flows. You know, Balshut is a little bit lighter. I'm actually
- 6:25a little bit stronger than that, but again I look at it from a
- 6:27digital asset standpoint, and people starting to understand the validity of what eth really
- 6:32brings to the market. Bitcoin ETFs have accumulated thirteen point three billion in net
- 6:38inflows capturing twenty percent would mean we'd see two point six billion in inflows.
- 6:44Not bad for you know, an all coin that's coming out into an ETF
- 6:48world. So make sure and smash the like button if you guys like these
- 6:51kind of breakdowns. We'd love to get your feedback. Also, drop some
- 6:55comments over on the side. We'll try to get to some of those and
- 6:58I'll view the queue here and see what they got lined up. Don't forget
- 7:00to hit the poll over there. We'll see how that's playing out as well.
- 7:03And I want to get into a couple other things because this is important
- 7:08that because everybody's kind of wondering, you know, bitcoin retraced ETH has not
- 7:12really started to unhitch. Is there a pause here before the storm, because
- 7:15that's kind of what happened with the Bitcoin ETH or the Bitcoin ETF when we
- 7:20saw that launch. Here's just a little bit of a breakdown. Only the
- 7:25nineteen b's were approved, so not the s ones. That's kind of the
- 7:27next layer, but most likely that you know, pretty much done. Approval
- 7:30was by the Division of Trading Markets delegated authority. We just talked about that
- 7:34they're trying to hide the vote because it's political That's another thing that I think
- 7:39is still playing out of this. And remember that we have a lot of
- 7:43components that are starting to slide into the FIT act. And we've done a
- 7:48whole slew of the FIT twenty one acts from Patrick mckenry and that team.
- 7:54I want you to go back and watch some of those because there's a lot
- 7:57of hidden gems in there that start to align and maybe the strategies and the
- 8:01potentials of this market, these markets, i should say, digital assets in
- 8:07general, and how this may play out, you know, in the financial
- 8:11architecture of the future here. So if you're brand new to crypto, you
- 8:16just joined at what I think is the most exciting time that we've ever seen.
- 8:20More exciting than you know, the eth conversion, more exciting than really
- 8:24when Bitcoin hit all time highs, more exciting than when we saw Meta really
- 8:28shift their focus. We are going to see a revolution. I think that
- 8:31nobody is really ready for just yet. A couple of the points here,
- 8:37when does the spot ethifts go live? Expect a little bit of a blood
- 8:41bath. There's some people looking at this similar to what happened with Gray Scale.
- 8:45Remember they launched with the bitcoin a little higher rates because fees are always
- 8:50a big deal. But they've accumulated almost nine billion worth of ETH before staking
- 8:54exists. These funds will be unlocked, so we'll see how that plays out.
- 9:00Little bit of a potential sell off there. Historical precedent with bitcoins suggest
- 9:03potential volatility after approval. Likelihood will see a pretty significant retracement, but get
- 9:09ready because that would be the next move up, and of course the awareness
- 9:13where all of this plays out. So I think a lot of people and
- 9:18i'd love to get you guys' feedback. Do you think that we're going to
- 9:20be in a position to receive that much of a retracement or is eth going
- 9:24to play out a completely different way because many people still look at it potentially
- 9:31as maybe a completely different alternative. Here's just just on the discount there from
- 9:37the Grayscale trust, just to give you an example of where this was trading
- 9:41in July of last year, just less than a year ago, less than
- 9:46a year ago, forty six percent on the discount versus where we're trading at
- 9:48right now obviously from the pump here now only negative about five and a half
- 9:54percent. So pretty crazy stuff, guys, because I think this is one
- 9:58of those things also that the potential of those firestorm bull markets because it starts
- 10:03to open up one mainstream investing, it also starts to open up projects to
- 10:09really understand that there's an opportunity and a new path in the biggest global financial
- 10:15system in the world, you know, and that is the United States.
- 10:18And what this might mean. This really starts to set the table i think,
- 10:22for the next generation of what we're going to see going after the market
- 10:26spot ETF makes Black Rock very eager to push things a little bit faster.
- 10:31So there's trending. There's a couple of coins here that they've kind of outlined
- 10:35that will get into some of the narratives around ethereum, and that is if
- 10:41you just think about the eth ecosystem, you're going to look at things like
- 10:43chain link, Ondo many others that are going to have a lot of upside.
- 10:48So keep an eye on those. We'll probably get you guys, well
- 10:50we probably we will get you videos on a lot of those narratives that are
- 10:56potentially hitched to ethereum, and especially in the layer twos, because that is
- 11:01something that I think we're going to continue to see a bunch of movement speaking
- 11:05of Layer twos. This is just the last seven days, so a little
- 11:09bit of a nice move from about forty billion up to around forty five billion,
- 11:15so another almost ten percent on the seven day But if you look at
- 11:18that over the thirty day period and then all the way out into ninety so
- 11:22you can kind of see the opportunity has not yet completely presented itself. A
- 11:28lot of upside going in here, for sure? What else do we have?
- 11:31All right, So here's a nice piece right here is Ethereum is the
- 11:37ethtf reel threat real analyscar predicting whether or not eth would flip Bitcoin. And
- 11:43this is one that we talk about, you know here in our own research
- 11:46team quite a bit. Is it the time? Could it happen? They're
- 11:50anticipating it could, but it's by the next having. That's still a weighs
- 11:54down the road if you think about that flipping before the next having. Wall
- 11:58Street gets this. It's an entire ecosystem with barring lending issuance to economic staking
- 12:03yield. They understand this because it's what they do every day. Plenty of
- 12:05them to work with in terms of just kind of hanging in there in one
- 12:11spot. Also, the layer two ecosystem not fully fledged that I think is
- 12:15going to continue to really start to accelerate. And then Bianco, this is
- 12:20Jim Bianco talking about this claim that e could work against bitcoin layer twos,
- 12:24which could, Yes, that could be the case now only because of the
- 12:28new positioning of how we're going to see digital assets move forward. This is
- 12:33another statement. Just as it's easier to hoddle in a regulated brokerage account than
- 12:37it is unchained. So that's the other thing that's going to enter in a
- 12:41lot of regular traditional you know and institutional capital, but also traditional investors that
- 12:48they're not ready for the kind of things that you I are accustomed to in
- 12:52blockchain. But think about this, this is usually the gateway drug, whether
- 12:58it's a you know, an easy, no risk ETF and then the next
- 13:03step is they move into an exchange, they start trading their own and then
- 13:05of course it's self custy. So all of those processes will happen, especially
- 13:11as digital assets become somewhat mainstream. This kind of hits it on the head
- 13:15right here. Ethereum is the new Internet, and if you think about it's
- 13:20freedom that is provided around what we've seen with the Internet. But there's something
- 13:24else here, and that is that the extension of opportunity here, whether it's
- 13:30L two's or what we'll see within an expanding web three world, gaming,
- 13:35digitalized or tokenized assets. Of course, we'll see all sorts of integrations,
- 13:39loyalty platforms, et cetera. This could really start to set things out.
- 13:43If you just look at the layer two ecosystem, you kind of see the
- 13:46potential of what this might look like in a very short time. And this
- 13:52is just the beginning. So if you look back in the beginning of the
- 13:56Internet and the pre two thousand era all if you can to go look at
- 14:00that, there was like a seven to eight trillion dollar industry in that era,
- 14:03which is in the late nineties, and the expansion that that grew to
- 14:07in a very short period of time. That's the kind of growth we could
- 14:11be experiencing, especially if you couple this with what's happening in AI and the
- 14:16interlinking that seems to be happening around blockchain projects as well. So there'll be
- 14:22a lot of that going on last week here, and I'll get to it
- 14:24because this gets into the next framework, and that is well, with all
- 14:28this tech and with all this regulatory thing, you still have to have an
- 14:33economy, you still have to have a global macro positioning to be able to
- 14:37succeed. And you know, asset managers now they don't foresee a recession within
- 14:43the next twelve months. That's a good signed. Seventy eight percent of asset
- 14:46managers currently say that a recession within the year is unlikely, and this is
- 14:50up from sixty five, so they're getting more confident. March, and that
- 14:54was recorded in March, the highest share of respondent since February. And then
- 14:58in November of twenty too, roughly ninety percent of portfolio managers anticipated a recession.
- 15:03So it's almost an about face over just a period of two to not
- 15:07even two years, so a pretty big pivot. And when you look at
- 15:11the pivot we're talking about, we are getting into what could be a very
- 15:16good position for how the global economy could be embracing all this new productivity and
- 15:22now regulatory clarity around the next twelfth sector of the financial system. We're gonna
- 15:30get into some questions. Make sure and smash the like button right now.
- 15:31We love to get your feedback. I want to go to the poll real
- 15:33quick and see what you guys think about this today, all right, So
- 15:39which token has the most ETF Wow, Solana is absolutely on fire. XRP
- 15:46was number two, So we had this is interesting because we we the video
- 15:50we just did. I don't know if is it up? Yeah, guys,
- 15:54the okay, so it's not up yet. We're gonna put a video
- 15:58up. You want to go watch it because it's a breakdown of those four
- 16:02projects that we just showed on the poll, but there's also another three or
- 16:07four projects that we include as well. There's going to be some prise,
- 16:11some surprises in there. So go watch that video. It's going to be
- 16:14a good one that breaks down what could be next and why. There's a
- 16:17lot of reasonings for each one of those. So but you guys were kind
- 16:21of in the same rink as us. We hit Solana as number one,
- 16:23all right, and we still like XRP XRP could be a while, you
- 16:27know, kind of a black corse here coming through as well. Let's get
- 16:30into some questions. Solana does have the network stability, but they have the
- 16:34narrative, you know, the narrative and the ecosystem, the potential for growth
- 16:40in all of the categories. There's just a lot there. There's just a
- 16:44lot there, very similar to an ETH in a way, you know,
- 16:45in terms of ecosystem strength. ETH still pretty quiet even after et and I
- 16:51think there's reasons for that. We'll probably won't see real ETH movement. Our
- 16:53anticipation right now, based on what we're seeing on the sentiment data, is
- 16:59looking like it's going to be sometime in June before we start to see some
- 17:03adjustments there. Anyone out there still believe in Cardano. I think there's a
- 17:07lot of Cardinal lovers out there still, even though they just don't get a
- 17:11lot of the press, and of course we don't cover them a lot here
- 17:14on the channel, but not necessarily for any reason. Something decentralize in proof
- 17:18of work. So I like go, why not like coin? That's a
- 17:21good one. That's that is a good one. Why not like one?
- 17:23Soul is the obvious choice for an next ETF. Nobody wants XRP. Wait,
- 17:27uh, it doesn't launch, Say no, it doesn't launch today?
- 17:32What else do we have? A Salona? Man? You guys are crazy
- 17:34on Solana a huge hype. XRP should be next, the only one with
- 17:37with some Claire agreed XRP like I said, it's a little bit of the
- 17:42dark horse because there's some options there with XRP that could really play into this
- 17:48this summer. Don't forget they're doing their stable coin launch. We'll see that
- 17:52this summer. It's coming in just around the corner a lot. Also,
- 17:55I think in terms of the connected community of what XRP could be revealing in
- 17:59am so watch that for sure. Next ETF is going to be a blend.
- 18:03That could be also the case. You know, Solana Avalanche would be
- 18:07a nice one. Bitcoin dominants clawing its way back up eth ETF big fat
- 18:12nothing Burger Nelson says, all right, mister Mark Nelson, there eight will
- 18:18never get approved. Yeah, I know, yeah, we saw that pulse
- 18:22Jane ETF. Okay, man, you guys are really going out there,
- 18:26all right. And Gary did say Solana is security XRP next on the ETF
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