Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Monday Mini: What Now?
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome stuff.
- 0:07Speaker 2: We never told you reproduction I heard radio.
- 0:18Speaker 1: I don't know. I think from now on we might
- 0:20Speaker 1: just have to time step everything Annie, probably because of
- 0:23Speaker 1: the way that everything is feeling like it's in turmoil
- 0:28Speaker 1: and crisis, we may need to have I feel like
- 0:32Speaker 1: I was going to say this in our past episode.
- 0:34Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to be in battle mode constantly.
- 0:39Speaker 1: So in my old job, I could never address like
- 0:42Speaker 1: the root of the issue because we were always constantly
- 0:45Speaker 1: putting out fires, immediate fires that nothing could be solved,
- 0:50Speaker 1: especially for like a caseworker. I think that's where we're
- 0:53Speaker 1: going to be at as intersectional feminist podcasts. I think
- 0:57Speaker 1: that's just the constant that we're going to have to
- 0:59Speaker 1: address issues in a timely manner, and that we're about
- 1:03Speaker 1: to be at current events instead of like just educational,
- 1:06Speaker 1: which is typically what we'd like to do. Don't get
- 1:08Speaker 1: me wrong, we still will because we're going to need
- 1:10Speaker 1: those breaks to y'all. Yeah, And also, by the time
- 1:14Speaker 1: something is published, oftentimes we're already out of sync with
- 1:17Speaker 1: the news, like we're already outdated. But with that, we're
- 1:20Speaker 1: gonna put time stamps a lot more. Today is November eighth,
- 1:24Speaker 1: technically Monday, if you're listening to this on the chronological order.
- 1:27Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like to listen to
- 1:28Speaker 1: the shorter episodes anyway, which half the time Monday minis
- 1:31Speaker 1: are no longer minis. But anyway, with that, we know
- 1:38Speaker 1: you are listening to it later, so things are changing.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get some more information. There's a lot of
- 1:45Speaker 1: stuff that's happening that I can't keep up with, including
- 1:51Speaker 1: more results, possible conspiracy theories, actual truths. Like there's so
- 1:57Speaker 1: many things happening that try to decipher through all the
- 1:59Speaker 1: information is getting difficult, especially right now. So with that,
- 2:05Speaker 1: as much as we want to crawl into a fetal
- 2:07Speaker 1: position and just sleep through the next four or five years,
- 2:10Speaker 1: we know we can't. Like we said on the last episode,
- 2:13Speaker 1: if you listened, we will not. We will keep pushing,
- 2:16Speaker 1: even though sometimes it feels really hard. Listeners, I wanted
- 2:20Speaker 1: to be very transparent with you and let you know
- 2:22Speaker 1: right now I do feel hopeless, and I say this
- 2:25Speaker 1: with a smile because I don't know how else to
- 2:27Speaker 1: address this without crying again. But one thing that I
- 2:31Speaker 1: understand is that we can't pretend this didn't happen. We
- 2:35Speaker 1: can't pretend like it's not happening. We have to move forward,
- 2:39Speaker 1: and a part of our responsibility to you is to
- 2:42Speaker 1: be a vocal part of this critical journey, scary journey.
- 2:49Speaker 1: It's scary. As we've already talked about how we are
- 2:52Speaker 1: doing and how we are overwhelmed, we will bypass that
- 2:55Speaker 1: for now, and we want to talk offensive, or maybe
- 2:59Speaker 1: perhaps better defensive and what looks like when we were
- 3:03Speaker 1: looking at things defensively and wanting to protect our rights
- 3:08Speaker 1: and the rights of those who are marginalized. So this
- 3:11Speaker 1: is something important for us, and we will keep doing this.
- 3:15Speaker 1: And I will say, as I was researching what to
- 3:18Speaker 1: do now seriously, and I've been googling exactly what to
- 3:21Speaker 1: do now that Trump has been elected like that is
- 3:24Speaker 1: the phrase, or organizations that will fight Trump like that?
- 3:28Speaker 1: Those are the Google searchers that I have been looking up.
- 3:31Speaker 1: And honestly, I've only been hitting things from twenty sixteen,
- 3:34Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, articles from back then to combat Trump. So
- 3:39Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily revisiting those things because I think it
- 3:44Speaker 1: could have helped, and things like the ACLU will remain
- 3:47Speaker 1: important within our country. They did a lot in things
- 3:52Speaker 1: that they were fighting specifically by state by state. They
- 3:55Speaker 1: did a lot of work. They put a lot of time.
- 3:58Speaker 1: The lawyers, the policymakers roll a lot. We're part of
- 4:02Speaker 1: this NAACP. We know is a huge organization that does
- 4:05Speaker 1: a lot as well, that does ground funding. Planned Parenthood
- 4:10Speaker 1: has done a lot as well. But we also know
- 4:11Speaker 1: when it comes to it, the local things are very important.
- 4:15Speaker 1: So with all of that, things are a bit different,
- 4:18Speaker 1: and will likely be appointing two new Supreme Court justices
- 4:22Speaker 1: as well. We know there's been rumors about Clarence Thomas
- 4:26Speaker 1: as well as Alito, and they've just been waiting hoping
- 4:30Speaker 1: for this results. Yeah, but with all of that, as
- 4:33Speaker 1: much as that makes me nauseous that want to throw up,
- 4:35Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we can't stop fighting. We have
- 4:38Speaker 1: also talked about the people as a collective. What I
- 4:41Speaker 1: have seen are the amount of people coming back together
- 4:44Speaker 1: and about how to rally. I know there's been protests already,
- 4:46Speaker 1: there are people coming together already to gather together to
- 4:50Speaker 1: problem solve at least have strategy. California, the State of California,
- 4:54Speaker 1: the Say of Washington, all of them have already talked
- 4:57Speaker 1: about what's going to happen and the possibility of things
- 4:59Speaker 1: to happen. Violence is not our go to. We know this,
- 5:03Speaker 1: so this is not the option that we will be
- 5:05Speaker 1: going for. And I say this in reference to the
- 5:08Speaker 1: twenty twenty election. That is not something that we do.
- 5:11Speaker 1: We know this. But what we do well is we
- 5:14Speaker 1: gather together well and coming together, something we have always
- 5:17Speaker 1: done and that is what I'm hoping for Individually. I
- 5:21Speaker 1: will tell y'all at this time, look into your area,
- 5:25Speaker 1: look into your local community and see who are meeting
- 5:29Speaker 1: together and who are coming together as a community. We
- 5:31Speaker 1: know that there's organizations out there, We know that there
- 5:33Speaker 1: are things happening to the point that they get labeled
- 5:36Speaker 1: antifa just because they're anti fascist. I mean that's true,
- 5:42Speaker 1: I guess, but seen as terrorist whatever. Okay, whatever, But
- 5:46Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Keep an eye on your
- 5:48Speaker 1: local officials. What are they saying, what are they doing,
- 5:55Speaker 1: how are they planning for the future. You need to
- 5:58Speaker 1: take a note of what is going on in your
- 6:00Speaker 1: small area. I'm talking about for us, our small area
- 6:03Speaker 1: is Atlanta, the cab County, Decatur, all of that, and
- 6:06Speaker 1: the people that we have put into office. We are
- 6:09Speaker 1: staring and watching Fanny Willis. By the way, she got
- 6:13Speaker 1: nominated and she is still the district attorney for Fulton County.
- 6:17Speaker 1: Just in case y'all needed to know the highlight. We
- 6:21Speaker 1: knew that we knew it would be because come on,
- 6:26Speaker 1: support small businesses. So there's conversation constantly about boycotting and
- 6:40Speaker 1: doing these things and trying to stay away from capitalistic ideas,
- 6:45Speaker 1: especially right now in seeing who is supporting what and
- 6:48Speaker 1: why they're supporting it. A lot of the things that
- 6:51Speaker 1: we're looking at are also again federal standards that are
- 6:55Speaker 1: being depleted or just overridden because they want to make
- 6:59Speaker 1: money on the chief no, no matter who gets sick or
- 7:01Speaker 1: who doesn't get sick. So support small businesses. I think
- 7:06Speaker 1: specifically right now, we've talked about this as repeatedly. As
- 7:08Speaker 1: the holidays are coming up, look for black women owned businesses,
- 7:13Speaker 1: and again watch out for bad players. I think we're
- 7:17Speaker 1: gonna have to stay away from Etsy. Annie. I try
- 7:20Speaker 1: to order a couple of things from Etsy and I
- 7:21Speaker 1: got some sus stuff. Yeah, I was like, what is this?
- 7:26Speaker 1: And I try to use etc. Over Amazon because we
- 7:29Speaker 1: need to get away Bay from Amazon y'all. I will
- 7:31Speaker 1: tell you firsthand, I order a lot of stuff because
- 7:34Speaker 1: I don't want to go to stores so like like
- 7:37Speaker 1: face stuff or like cosmetic stuff or like that, so
- 7:40Speaker 1: that it will come to me. But I realize I
- 7:43Speaker 1: have a responsibility and I should I did have a responsibility.
- 7:46Speaker 1: So coming back to through, I'm like, all right, we
- 7:47Speaker 1: got a revamp. What's going on? But again, we've also
- 7:50Speaker 1: had this conversation about who is privileged enough to be
- 7:53Speaker 1: able to shop in these areas because buying or doing
- 7:57Speaker 1: these custom things in a small business takes money and
- 8:00Speaker 1: they have to make money, so it's going to cost
- 8:02Speaker 1: more if you can for those of us who are
- 8:05Speaker 1: privileged enough buy those things, look up those things, take
- 8:08Speaker 1: the time to find those businesses. I will say right
- 8:10Speaker 1: this point, I love TikTok, which might not be around
- 8:15Speaker 1: to the New Year, because you know, they have a band,
- 8:19Speaker 1: and Donald Trump said really cool about it because you
- 8:22Speaker 1: know he hated all the information that was being spread
- 8:25Speaker 1: on TikTok, but whatever. On top of that, they are
- 8:28Speaker 1: coming together with different organizations that are asking actual owned
- 8:34Speaker 1: small businesses owned by black women, owned by people of
- 8:36Speaker 1: color to make a list to highlight what they do
- 8:39Speaker 1: and what they sell. Try to find those people. Go
- 8:42Speaker 1: and find them, follow them, find the list, verifies who
- 8:45Speaker 1: they are, because this is going to take extra work,
- 8:48Speaker 1: but I think that's something really important as we talk
- 8:50Speaker 1: about the economy and what has happening in the economy,
- 8:53Speaker 1: the taxes and all of that, and the tariffs. There's
- 8:56Speaker 1: so much to this. Uh, take a break from the toxicity.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Social media is both great and awful. Take some time off,
- 9:06Speaker 1: but also look through who you are following. Find those
- 9:09Speaker 1: who are building up a good community. That's the best
- 9:12Speaker 1: way to do this. Followed those who you know you
- 9:15Speaker 1: can trust. I found some good people. As a person
- 9:21Speaker 1: from the swing state. Again, we talked about this earlier.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Fifty point seven percent voted for Trump. We are begging
- 9:29Speaker 1: for those of you from the outside who seem to
- 9:34Speaker 1: think they're okay because they are in what has always
- 9:37Speaker 1: been blue or what is always considered blue, just to
- 9:41Speaker 1: remember the depth of voter suppression that has occurred here
- 9:45Speaker 1: in many other red states, especially in states like Georgia Alabama,
- 9:49Speaker 1: which are very heavily populated by people of color. That
- 9:55Speaker 1: what happened here with everything from coordinated bomb threads, we
- 9:58Speaker 1: got so many County, which is Atlanta, invalidating absentee voters
- 10:04Speaker 1: and absentee votes by the way, the amount of young people,
- 10:08Speaker 1: especially it was being the black women, I will say that,
- 10:10Speaker 1: or people of color that were driving or flying to
- 10:14Speaker 1: their home state to get their votes in y'all are amazing.
- 10:18Speaker 1: The purging of the voter registration. We had hundreds of
- 10:21Speaker 1: thousands of people being pershed repeatedly. I've had stories of
- 10:25Speaker 1: people being vote like getting their voter registration changed last
- 10:28Speaker 1: minute without their permission. So so many of those things
- 10:32Speaker 1: are happening. And then the overall jerrymandering that has happened.
- 10:36Speaker 1: They tried to do that with cop County. It did
- 10:38Speaker 1: not work. Kudos to cop County. We're talking about Marietta, Georgia,
- 10:43Speaker 1: Ostell Mapleton for some of y'all who don't know it's
- 10:45Speaker 1: where the Brave Stadium is now because it's not in Atlanta. Anyway,
- 10:52Speaker 1: they flipped and I love to see that. Of course,
- 10:54Speaker 1: to act as if we as a state gave up
- 10:58Speaker 1: is an insult for those who have put in the
- 11:00Speaker 1: work and who will continue to put in the work.
- 11:03Speaker 1: And I'm talking about black women specifically. Atlanta. Georgia has
- 11:07Speaker 1: been a force because of black women. Please don't insult
- 11:10Speaker 1: them like that. You can be angry at the people
- 11:12Speaker 1: who are outside of the metro areas and such. You
- 11:20Speaker 1: can also be angry at the politicians and the policymakers
- 11:23Speaker 1: trying and doing their damnedest to make sure that they
- 11:26Speaker 1: suppressed votes, for sure, but don't insult the work of
- 11:30Speaker 1: the women, the work of the people who have been
- 11:32Speaker 1: fighting to make change here in the state. Members are
- 11:35Speaker 1: swirling that Marjorie tail Green will try to take John
- 11:40Speaker 1: Ossov's seat in the US Senate, and guarantee we will
- 11:43Speaker 1: be hungering down to make sure that doesn't happen. We
- 11:47Speaker 1: are hurting in this state. We are hurting just as
- 11:50Speaker 1: much as everyone else. We've been affected here and we
- 11:53Speaker 1: are tired, but we are still working. So please remember that.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Please remember that before people come in and negatively just
- 12:03Speaker 1: coming after everyone, because people have done so much work
- 12:06Speaker 1: to even get to that point. The misogyn noir is
- 12:10Speaker 1: really heavy and disgusting. Just FYI, check on your people. Sometimes.
- 12:17Speaker 1: Caring and loving other people and helping other people helps
- 12:21Speaker 1: us in our time of despair. So being able to
- 12:25Speaker 1: go outside of your own morning sometimes to check on
- 12:31Speaker 1: others is really really important and it keeps as a
- 12:34Speaker 1: community together. Go through your stages of grief, but check
- 12:38Speaker 1: on the other people who are there too. Andy, you have.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Thoughts, I mean I have a lot of thoughts.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Yeah enough. It is.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Honestly, growing up here in Georgia, I never would have
- 12:58Speaker 2: thought we would even been close to Swing State. So
- 13:01Speaker 2: I think, even given everything that happened that day, which
- 13:06Speaker 2: by the way, one of those bomb threats was coordinated
- 13:08Speaker 2: by Russia, that it was that close is amazing and
- 13:14Speaker 2: it is a testament to the work of black women.
- 13:22Speaker 2: And before everything unfolded, we were having this community. I
- 13:34Speaker 2: was texting back and forth with all my friends and
- 13:36Speaker 2: we were all worried and all of this, but a
- 13:39Speaker 2: lot of people from other countries were sending these messages
- 13:44Speaker 2: in all kinds of spaces, like ay, American women were
- 13:47Speaker 2: thinking of you, or just really kind things. So it
- 13:54Speaker 2: is very welcome. Something as small as that is very
- 13:59Speaker 2: welcomed in it is true like check on the people
- 14:04Speaker 2: in your life, and that can sometimes be hard to
- 14:09Speaker 2: manage when you're going through crisis. Then you have to
- 14:12Speaker 2: sort of balance that. But a lot of people I
- 14:16Speaker 2: know are going through crisis and even if it is
- 14:18Speaker 2: just like hey, thinking of you, that that can mean
- 14:23Speaker 2: a lot of somebody.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Right And with that with things we don't know what
- 14:39Speaker 1: things will look like in the future, but for us
- 14:42Speaker 1: in this man day, this is what our thoughts are.
- 14:45Speaker 1: That we will keep fighting and speaking out as an
- 14:48Speaker 1: intersectional feminist show. We will do as the show has
- 14:52Speaker 1: always done, talk about the issues at hand, the history
- 14:55Speaker 1: of the people who have made change for the better
- 14:57Speaker 1: or for the worst, continuing to walk with you this journey.
- 15:01Speaker 1: And when I say the worst, and what I mean
- 15:03Speaker 1: is so that we don't forget the ugly history as well,
- 15:07Speaker 1: because that is just as important as the good history.
- 15:11Speaker 1: We know this, and again we know that critical race
- 15:15Speaker 1: theory has gotten so misconstrued as an attack instead of history,
- 15:21Speaker 1: which is interesting. But we are going to make sure
- 15:24Speaker 1: that we include all of that in the conversation. We
- 15:28Speaker 1: will continue to research and work in collaboration to dismantle
- 15:32Speaker 1: the oppressive system and to undo the misinformation and disinformation
- 15:37Speaker 1: that have helped to uphold the current oppressive systems. And
- 15:41Speaker 1: we want to hear from you, hear what you need
- 15:45Speaker 1: and what is important from you. But with that we
- 15:51Speaker 1: ask that you also be open to hear from others,
- 15:55Speaker 1: especially those in the marginalized communities, and be uncomfortable with
- 16:00Speaker 1: some hard truth that many of us want to pretend
- 16:03Speaker 1: doesn't exist or didn't realize it existed. Privilege exists, and
- 16:10Speaker 1: there is a hierarchy in the system. The question is
- 16:14Speaker 1: how is that privileged used and are you willing to
- 16:17Speaker 1: lose it for the sake of this community. I think
- 16:22Speaker 1: there's been a lot in conversation. Again, we're not coming
- 16:28Speaker 1: into this blame game. We're not coming into this with
- 16:31Speaker 1: like blaming or victimizing one group or any of that,
- 16:37Speaker 1: or villainizing another group. What we're wanting to do is
- 16:42Speaker 1: be honest, transparent, and open, and that includes making you
- 16:49Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. I know a chunk of our listeners are
- 16:52Speaker 1: white women. I have had women send emails to me
- 16:57Speaker 1: saying that they are upset with me for using the
- 17:00Speaker 1: word white women. I laugh because it kind of was like, huh,
- 17:09Speaker 1: but why are you offended by that term? You are
- 17:13Speaker 1: a white woman, obviously, if you're responding in a way
- 17:16Speaker 1: that you're offended that I refer to you that way,
- 17:22Speaker 1: I don't think she listens anymore. I'm sure she doesn't
- 17:26Speaker 1: I'm a most she doesn't. But with that, we also
- 17:33Speaker 1: know that you have been trying to work for the
- 17:38Speaker 1: betterment of the entirety of the community, and you understand
- 17:42Speaker 1: what it takes to be an intersectional feminist. So I
- 17:46Speaker 1: will say, if terms like white women, or if terms
- 17:52Speaker 1: in which we ask why a chunk and majority of
- 17:56Speaker 1: and I know again it's not our listeners for the
- 17:57Speaker 1: most part, I would be shocked. I think we got
- 18:00Speaker 1: I think we like they let us go a long
- 18:01Speaker 1: time ago. But for those who voted for Trump, the
- 18:08Speaker 1: fact that it was majority white women once again, majority
- 18:12Speaker 1: of all white men, majority of Latino men, and I
- 18:15Speaker 1: guess Asian men now like what the that we have
- 18:22Speaker 1: to have these conversations of why people of color are
- 18:28Speaker 1: questioning allyship in general, why black women are having to
- 18:35Speaker 1: question everyone, and why so many people are okay with
- 18:40Speaker 1: their destruction, why women in general are okay with men
- 18:48Speaker 1: or a government owning our bodies, or why people of
- 18:55Speaker 1: color immigrants are like, nah, I'm one of the good ones.
- 18:59Speaker 1: I'll be fun here. Baby, You're about to be gone.
- 19:04Speaker 1: And I hate that for you, I hate that for
- 19:06Speaker 1: your family. I hate that we are in this place.
- 19:11Speaker 1: So with that as a person of empathy, As people
- 19:16Speaker 1: of empathy, we want to make sure not only not
- 19:21Speaker 1: only are we holding people accountable who are making questionable choices,
- 19:27Speaker 1: but we still want to fight for you, and we
- 19:30Speaker 1: asked the same with that, we asked that we all
- 19:34Speaker 1: still stand uncomfortably in this results that we did not
- 19:37Speaker 1: want and unite in order to You can't undo it,
- 19:43Speaker 1: I guess we can't really just make it better in
- 19:46Speaker 1: the future and try to do better for the future.
- 19:52Speaker 1: So listeners, we need to hear from you because we
- 19:56Speaker 1: have two so I guess technically five perspectives here Insminty,
- 20:02Speaker 1: which are great, but we need your perspective to so
- 20:05Speaker 1: be willing to talk to us about some things that
- 20:08Speaker 1: you think are important that we might not see, and
- 20:11Speaker 1: then be willing to listen to others that we may
- 20:14Speaker 1: bring on who make you uncomfortable as well.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I oh. As always, you have any resources.
- 20:26Speaker 2: If you have any advice in this time, please let
- 20:32Speaker 2: us know. You can email us Steffan the email and
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