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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of Today's Washington Post for Saturday,
- 0:05February twenty eighth of twenty twenty six. As you remember,
- 0:10today is the last day of the month and tomorrow
- 0:14begins March. Pretty amazing already into the third year of
- 0:19the year, third month of the year. Your reader is Alastaina,
- 0:24with the reminder that RADIOI is an organization for those
- 0:27blind with difficulties holding and reading printed material. So I
- 0:34will begin with the front page of the Washington Post
- 0:38on the far left, in bold letters, in black Bill Clinton,
- 0:46no idea of Epstein's criminality, ex President compelled testimony to Congress,
- 0:54sets a new president, Megan Vesquez, and yes men abutile.
- 1:04And then in the middle a picture of a group
- 1:06of women with two gentlemen in fatigues. And it's obviously
- 1:13very rough territory background of trees and shrub scruffy shrubs,
- 1:20and it's of searching mothers of Sonora flanked by Mexico
- 1:26law enforcement walking through a canyon. Wednesday in Nogali's Mexico
- 1:33Mom's group joins hunt for Nancy Guthrie. The women who
- 1:39have located hundreds of drugs and gang victims, say officials
- 1:44aren't doing enough by Annie Gowan, who is in Megali's Mexico.
- 1:51And to the right of that picture, in bold and
- 1:54bigger letters, trump regime change possible. He's not thrilled with
- 2:02around talks signs of imminent war, as mediator says deal
- 2:07Neil by Karen de Young and John Hudson, And below
- 2:13the picture of the women searching for Nancy. President orders
- 2:19government to stop using anthrops anthropics AI tech by Ian Duncan,
- 2:27Tarn Copp and Elizabeth Dwaskin Pentagon declares the startup a
- 2:34threat to national security. And then to the left below
- 2:39the fold, a picture of a woman in a bright,
- 2:43pretty yellow coat, grayish pants, black hat with the reflection
- 2:50of a lamp post in the background, walking in downtown Washington,
- 2:56moves through a pedestrian in downtown Washington moves through warm sunlight. Friday,
- 3:03as me or logical winter near's end. Today has may
- 3:09be as warm as the mid sixties, giving weary residents
- 3:13a respite from what has been a brutally cold season.
- 3:17And the picture is entitled A Dream of Spring. And
- 3:22then finally, on the front page, to the right below
- 3:26the fold, our heroes are dying Why Jackson's death leaves
- 3:32avoid there is no clear successor generation with the power
- 3:37to rally the black community and people in the civil
- 3:40rights movement. By Gregory as Schneider and Michelle Bornstein. Well,
- 3:48this article is from yesterday, and I have a word
- 3:55that the US has already attacked Iran or moved into
- 4:00Iran as well as Israel. But I am looking for
- 4:04other sources of information and I don't see it. So
- 4:08I will read this, but know that this is already started.
- 4:14Trump moves toward Iran attack as mediator says nuclear deal
- 4:19is close. Amid arising signs of conflict. The US Embassy
- 4:24in Jerusalem advised non essential staff to urgently flee the country.
- 4:31By Karen Deyong and John Hudson, a US military attack
- 4:36on Iran could result in regime change, President Donald Trump
- 4:40said Friday. Nobody knows. It would be nice if we
- 4:46could do it without military force, Trump said, but sometimes
- 4:50you have to do it with Trump, speaking with the
- 4:54reporters before his morning departure from the White House for
- 4:57Texas and Florida, said he was not thrilled with how
- 5:01negotiations with Iran we're going over his demand that it
- 5:07not have nuclear weapons. A mere rising hints that war
- 5:11might be imminent. Amani Foreign Minister of Badir Abu Sadis,
- 5:16who mediated a Thursday negotiating session between the US and
- 5:21Iran and Geneva Lads, said in an interview with CBS's
- 5:26Faced the Nation that substantial progress had been made on
- 5:30key US demands and a deal on the broad parameters
- 5:35actually can be reached tomorrow with tomorrow's today and it wasn't. Iran,
- 5:40he said, had agreed to irreversibly dilute its stockpile of
- 5:46near weapons grade uranium highly enriched to sixty percent to
- 5:52a neutral level, a natural level. CBS report released a
- 5:57transcript of the interview schedule for the broadcast on Friday afternoon.
- 6:03Abu Said Saidi said agreement had also been reached on
- 6:08Iran's zero accumulation of enriched material in the future and
- 6:13submission of all of its nuclear facilities to international inspection.
- 6:17A plan that Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Aragucci brought to
- 6:23Geneva on Thursday had proposed allowing uranium to be enriched
- 6:28to one point five percent to fuel a civil research reactor.
- 6:32According to people familiar with the proposal, but Trump, around
- 6:36the time that CBS transcript became public, said in Texas
- 6:40that he wanted no enrichment. I'm not happy. Asked when
- 6:46he would make a decision on whether to attack, Trump
- 6:49declined to say, telling reporters that you'd have the greatest
- 6:53scoop in history. The US deployment of air and c
- 6:57military assets to the Middle East, the largest since the
- 7:01two thousand and three evasion of Iraq, continued Friday. Israeli
- 7:06media reported the arrival of merely a dozen air fueling
- 7:09tankers at Ben Gurian Airport in Tel Aviv, following the
- 7:13position of F twenty two fighter jets at a base
- 7:17in southern Israel. Trump has never specifically cited removal of
- 7:23Iran's Islamic theocracy as a goal of US military action,
- 7:28but he has often spoken of the need for a
- 7:30new government there, and said two weeks ago that regime
- 7:34change would be the best thing that could happen. Earlier Friday,
- 7:41the State Department authorized non emergency staff and family members
- 7:46at the US Embassy in Jerusalem to leave Israel, warning
- 7:49that they should consider acting while commercial flights are available.
- 7:55An updated travel advisory posted on the embassy website said
- 7:59that further alerts may be issued in response to security
- 8:04incidents and without advanced notice. Iran has warned that any
- 8:10attack on its territory would be met with retaliation against
- 8:14Israel and US forces in the region. The departure notice
- 8:18made no direct minchine of Iran, instead speaking a rising
- 8:23terrorism and civil unrest in Israel and the West Bank.
- 8:27It also referenced terrorism and armed conflict in Gaza along
- 8:33its border with Israel and on the tense frontiers with
- 8:37Syria and Lebanon. In a separate emailed embassy stair Friday,
- 8:42Ambassador Mike Huckabee said to those wishing to leave should
- 8:46do so today, booking that's in caps and booking any
- 8:53flight available to any other country. According to a US
- 8:57official who spoke on the condition of in unity to
- 9:01discuss internal communications, Huckabee wrote, focus on getting a seat
- 9:08to any place from which you can then continue to
- 9:11travel to d C. But the first priority will be
- 9:14getting expeditiously out of the country. Huckerby added that the
- 9:20government would cover evacuation caused under a policy that applies
- 9:24when US nationalist interest or imminent threat to life requires it,
- 9:30said the official. Huckaby's email to the staff was the
- 9:34first reported by The New York Times. During his first administration,
- 9:40Trump authorized moving the Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv
- 9:44to Jerusalem, parts of which are claimed by both Israeli
- 9:47and Palestinians as they are capital. Although it initially occupied
- 9:52a small Jerusalem footprint, plans were authorized in twenty twenty
- 9:56one to significantly expand the facility. The encouragement of embassy's
- 10:02staff departure came as the State Department announced that Secretary
- 10:06of State Marco Rubio would visit Israel on Monday and
- 10:09Tuesday to discuss a range of regional priorities, including Aaron
- 10:15Lebanon and ongoing efforts to implement President Trump's twenty point
- 10:20peace plan for Gossip. Following Thursday's negotiating session in Geneva,
- 10:27the third indirect of money mediated meeting in recent weeks,
- 10:32Aragachi said that good progress was made during two lengthy
- 10:38sessions and that the two sides achieved a close understanding,
- 10:43despite remaining differences in some areas. During his State of
- 10:48the Union address Tuesday, Trump spoke briefly about the Iranian
- 10:52nuclear threat, repeating the claim that USA strikes in June
- 10:56had obliterated Iran's nuclear weapons program, but warning that the
- 11:01Iranians were starting to rebuild it and are at this
- 11:05moment pursuing their sinister ambitions. On Friday, Iranian military spokesman
- 11:13Brigadier General Abu Falso Shikarachi called Trump's threats against Iran baseless, boastful,
- 11:21and delusional, according to Iranian media reports, He described the
- 11:27US military presence in the region as psychological warfare, blackmail,
- 11:33and bullying. In an interview Thursday with The Washington Post,
- 11:38Vice President J. D. Van said that he did not
- 11:41know whether Trump would decide to attack Iran, but that
- 11:44the US would not become involved in a drawn oat war.
- 11:49While regional experts in some lawmakers have warned that a
- 11:53US attack could spark widespread regional conflict, band said the
- 11:58idea that to be in a Middle Eastern war for
- 12:02years with no end in sight, there is no chance
- 12:06that will happen. Prior to the CBS interview, Abusaid said
- 12:13the Omani minister met with Vance at the White House.
- 12:17An official Amani statement following that meeting said Albuseidi had
- 12:22clarified to Vance that the negotiations have thus far achieved
- 12:27significant important and unprecedented progress, which could form the cornerstone
- 12:33of the desired agreement. The House and Senate are considering
- 12:38measures that would attempt to block the administration from attacking
- 12:41Iran without lawmakers consent, with at least one bill coming
- 12:46up for a vote next week. Congress has already voted
- 12:50down half a dozen such war powers resolutions in the
- 12:54past year, including one last summer focused on Iran. In
- 12:59a statement Friday, Senator Jack Reid Rhode Island, the senior
- 13:04Democrat on the Senate Armed Forces Committee, called on Trump
- 13:07to explain the risks and cost of US military action
- 13:11in Iran. Trump's cyberratal saber rattling for war dot is
- 13:18taking the country down a dangerous path without a clear
- 13:22strategy or end game, Reid said, noting that the President
- 13:27barely mentioned Iran during the longest State of the Union
- 13:30speech in history. Reid said Trump failed to define the objective.
- 13:36Congress has received no real briefings or intelligence, and it
- 13:41is hard to justify action without rationale. Trump and administration
- 13:46officials have charged that Tehran is intent on building a
- 13:50nuclear weapon and is developing an intercontinental ballistic missile capability
- 13:55to reach US territory. The Iranian government has said for
- 13:59years that it has no intention of producing a nuclear bomb,
- 14:03and international inspectors have said they detect no active plan
- 14:07to do so. US Intelligence and mass last year that
- 14:11it would take until twenty thirty five for Iran to
- 14:15build an ICBM should Tehran decide to pursue the capability.
- 14:24The International Atomic Energy Agency has said it has no
- 14:28evidence or reason to believe that Iran has an active
- 14:32nuclear weapons program or has restarted uranium enrichment and nuclear
- 14:36facilities struck by the US last summer. But according to
- 14:41news accounts from Vienna, where the IAEA is headquartered, a
- 14:45confidential new report circulated Friday among member states said that
- 14:51Tehran has not allowed AAA inspectors access to those facilities.
- 14:57The agency, it said, and I provide any information on
- 15:02the current science composition or whereabouts of the stockpile of
- 15:06enriched geranium in Iran. The possibility of imminent war between
- 15:11the US and Iran has overshadowed other conflicts over the
- 15:15past several weeks in Gaza, in the West Bank, and
- 15:18on Israel's other borders. While steps have been put in
- 15:22place to move forward with Trump's ambitious Gaza peace plan.
- 15:26Few have been implemented beyond the release of hostages and
- 15:29a ceasepire that has been repeatedly violated by both sides,
- 15:34with more than six hundred Palestinian deaths from Israeli attacks
- 15:38since the truce was declared in October, according to Gaza
- 15:43health authorities. Amid an increase in settler attacks in the
- 15:48West Bank and military restrictions on Palestinian civilians there, Israeli
- 15:54Prime Minister Benjamin Natiyahu's government has moved to annex more
- 15:58of the occupied territory. The US Embassy Updates said the
- 16:06security environment is complex and can change quickly, and violence
- 16:12can occur in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza without warning.
- 16:16Increased regional tensions can cause airlines to cancel and slash
- 16:22or curtail flights into and out of Israel. Meanwhile, as
- 16:28The Sun said in Washington on Friday, State Department officials
- 16:34or the State Department designated around a state sponsor of
- 16:39wrongful detention, saying that anyone who uses an American as
- 16:45a bargaining chip will pay the price. At least four
- 16:49Americans are believed to be wrongfully detained in Iran. Mom's
- 16:57group says they had to step in to help search
- 17:01for Nancy Guthrie. The searching mothers of Sonora are looking
- 17:05for Nancy Guthrie in Arizona and Mexico. They said officials
- 17:10aren't doing enough to find the missing eighty four year old.
- 17:14I describe the picture above, but there are bigger details
- 17:18in this picture I am looking at. The two lead
- 17:22women are both carrying shovels, and the two of them
- 17:25are in white sweatshirts with pictures. Each has a different picture,
- 17:31but of their missing sons that they have been searching for.
- 17:36The woman. The first Mexican law enforcement person has an
- 17:42entire long necklace of bullets around his neck with what
- 17:49looks like a launcher instead of a gun. It looks
- 17:55like a launcher that he's carrying in his fatigues. I
- 17:58mean it is wow. Of these necklace. At this necklace
- 18:05literally of bullets around his neck. Behind him two other
- 18:09women and then to the writing. In the back is
- 18:13another man with a big scarf tied around his shoulders.
- 18:17He's not in fatigues, but he's in gray all the
- 18:20way with a cap around his head. And the first
- 18:25guy has looks like a military headlight on his helmet
- 18:36by Annie Gowan Edam Magaulis, Mexico. Lydia Hernandez has been
- 18:41searching for her son lost to drug violence in Mexico
- 18:45for seven years, but she spent this week scarring rocky
- 18:49dirt for clues in the disappearance of a far more
- 18:52well known crime victim, Nancy Guthrie. On Sunday, Hernandez posted
- 18:58flyers on the mailbox at Guthrie's home in the Catalina
- 19:01Foothills north of Tucson. On Wednesday, she lived a group
- 19:05of other searching mothers in prayer across the border in
- 19:09Mexico as they tried to find out whether Guthrie had
- 19:12been taken there. On Thursday, she returned to Guthrie's neighborhood
- 19:17once again. Hernandez said her group, the searching Mothers of
- 19:22Sonora Fields, authorities aren't doing enough to find Guthrie, the
- 19:27eighty four year old mother of today Anka Savannah Guthrie,
- 19:31who was reported missing on February first, that is twenty
- 19:36eight days ago. It's a common refrain for the mothers
- 19:40who have used pickaxes and shovels to locate hundreds of
- 19:44bodies of victims of drug and gang violence in Mexico
- 19:47themselves over the years, decrying government in action, all the
- 19:53while they are not looking for her. Hernandez sixty six
- 19:58are retired through ser worker from the galley's Arizona's head,
- 20:03so we have to step in. As the investigation entered
- 20:07its fourth week, unauthorized search parties have exacerbated the chaos
- 20:12surrounding the high profile case, which has gripped the nation
- 20:16and attracted media, true true crime streamers and curiosity seekers
- 20:22to the area around Guthrie's spacious home. The Pima County
- 20:26Sheriff's Department has tried to calm the situation, asking in
- 20:30the statement Saturday that volunteer search us back off and
- 20:34let the investigators do their jobs. On Thursday, they instituted
- 20:39new parking restrictions around the hosts. The Sheriff's office said
- 20:44on a post on x we appreciate their concern and
- 20:49we all want to find Nancy, but this work is
- 20:52best left to professionals. Despite the Sheriff's office admonitions, the
- 20:59informal church parties have continued, including members of the United
- 21:06Cajun Navy, a volunteer group that normally responds to hurricanes,
- 21:11arriving in town midweek with sniffer dogs and drones. The
- 21:16Sheriff's office referred additional questions about the new searches back
- 21:21to its Saturday post. This week, the pace of the
- 21:28investigation appeared to slow as investigators await the results of
- 21:32a complicated DNA test that could take weeks, authorities have said. Separately,
- 21:39ABC News reported that the FBI was scaling down its
- 21:43operations in Tucson and moving Asians back to Phoenix, but
- 21:48thousands of citizens continued to call in tips to the FBI,
- 21:53more than twenty three thousand so far. Authorities said the
- 21:58Guthrie family is off with a million dollars private reward
- 22:04for information about their mother's wearboats. We still believe in
- 22:08a miracle, Savannah Guthrie said in an Instagram video. Amateur sleuths,
- 22:14especially those analyzing clues in web forms, have proliferated in
- 22:19recent years and sometimes do more harm than good, experts say.
- 22:24In the Guthrie case, for example, some have continued to
- 22:28speculate online that the Guthrie family could be involved, despite
- 22:32the fact that Pemac County Sheriff Chris Naos cleared them
- 22:37as suspects. Tricia Arrington Griffith, who manages the web form
- 22:42for true crime buffs called web Sleuths, attributes the intense
- 22:47interest in the case to Savannah Guthrie's fame and the
- 22:50possibility that her mother could still be alive. Griffith said,
- 22:59time is of the efsence. You tell people somebody out
- 23:04there is in trouble and with the bad guy and
- 23:06might die, people will move heaven and earth to try
- 23:09and help. On Wednesday, Hernandez said the searching mothers traveled
- 23:16on a dirt road deep with ruts, about an hour
- 23:19south of Guthrie's home to a remote area with cacti
- 23:23and mesquite trees near the US Mexico border. The border
- 23:28wall a rust colored ribbon unspooned in the northern distance
- 23:32over the sun dun colored landscape. Hernandez led the group
- 23:38in prayer before they hoisted shovels and metal rods and
- 23:41began combing the earth, looking for disturbed ground which might
- 23:45indicate a burial. If they saw a telltale disturbance, they
- 23:50began immediately diving metal ruds into the ground and pulling
- 23:55them back, sniffing the ends for the smell of a decomposing.
- 24:01There's a picture of the lion of the women walking
- 24:04along the river and desolate looking territory sort of a
- 24:11hill above them with those scrub trees and and I
- 24:17guess it's the Sonoran desert in the Gullies. For Hernandez,
- 24:23the grim work has been a boon, a constructive activity
- 24:27she has embraced in the pain and uncertainty she has
- 24:32lived with since her son, Jorge twenty eight, disappeared in
- 24:37the Gals on November fourth, twenty nineteen. Like other mothers,
- 24:42she wears a white T shirt with a purple logo
- 24:45and photo of her son above the word disappeared. Okay,
- 24:49that's what I described as the picture on the front.
- 24:53Each woman has a different one. But there is also
- 24:56a picture of the searching mothers who inspected the backpack
- 25:01found in the canyon commonly used by border crosses. So
- 25:05they discovered a backpack, and you see them with the shovels.
- 25:10Reh names the Guthrie Vanish. She felt an immediate infinity
- 25:14for the Guthrie family. It was pain and sadness, the
- 25:20same feeling that the mothers go through every day, every week,
- 25:24every year. The pain is permanent, Hernandez said the searching
- 25:32mothers had received an anonymous tip. The group's leader see See,
- 25:36Patricia Flores Amenta, said, pointing to them to this area,
- 25:41a swath of forested land crisscross with narrow pathways used
- 25:45by migrants and drug traffickers. They told us if they
- 25:50wanted to take her across to Mexico, this would have
- 25:53been the best way to take her. Hanandez said. She
- 25:57broughshed off criticism from authorities at the volunteer searches are
- 26:00at risk of hampering the investigation. The police are not
- 26:05searching underground, they're during investigations. They're waiting for someone to
- 26:10hand her over alive, or she's in a place where
- 26:13they won't be able to find her. Flores said, if
- 26:16we manage to find her with their technology, which is
- 26:19only a shovel in a bar, I think they'd end
- 26:22up embarrassed. She continued. They say we're violating the investigation,
- 26:28but what investigation. They've had a month and they haven't
- 26:32been able to resolve the case, and so they must
- 26:34let the mothers participate. Investigators from Mexico's lead criminal agency
- 26:40do not believe Guthrie has been taken across the border.
- 26:43According to agent Alberto Assuno Guerrero, who was at the
- 26:48scene of the mother's search Wednesday, Osana Guero said, the
- 26:53truth is it's very difficult to transport a person against
- 26:58their will and cross them into Mexico. The mothers might
- 27:02find a body, he said, but likely not the one
- 27:05they're looking for. Flores founded the group in twenty nineteen
- 27:10to search for the tens of thousands of missing, more
- 27:13than one hundred and thirty thousand, according to the government's
- 27:16last count, victims of drug cartels and gained violence who
- 27:20are left in shallow graves or burned. She has two
- 27:24sons who have disappeared, have been kidnapped, and despite her
- 27:29public pressure, authorities have given her no indication of their whereabouts.
- 27:36Mothers don't try to find the perpetrators of crimes, instead
- 27:40focused on uruniting reuniting families of providing closure when they
- 27:45find remains, which they call treasures. They've had some success.
- 27:51Volunteer mothers groups in Floridaes's home state of Sonora have
- 27:54found five missing people just this year, according to the
- 27:58state's Commission on Missing Peace People. In twenty twenty four,
- 28:03Flores and other mothers searching outside Mexico City found a
- 28:07clandestine dumping ground filled with human remains, and was criticized
- 28:12by a local prosecutor for disturbing evidence. According to Associated
- 28:18Press account of the discovery, her response, do your job.
- 28:23On Wednesday near the border, Flores and other volunteers found
- 28:28us spent shellcasing on the ground. Flores directed them where
- 28:32to dig here, this is where they would have fallen,
- 28:37she said. As the volunteers began swinging pickaxes around, the
- 28:41sound of metal hitting rock resonating through the small grove
- 28:45of trees, but after digging for an hour, they found nothing.
- 28:52Other searches, including Yolanda Veronica Paradies, a local resident who
- 28:58also lost her son and the kid, followed a stream
- 29:01bed deep into the hills. Totting their shovels. They passed
- 29:05a small lake, the bleached ribs of a dead cow,
- 29:09a shrine to the Virgin Mary and the detrius, and
- 29:12wanderers along the narrow path, a sock, an empty palm
- 29:17all package, a discarded bottle of orange soda. They reached
- 29:23a trash pile in the woods and began to dig. Soon,
- 29:27Parides pulled up a clump of earth and sniffed deeply.
- 29:32I smelled something dead, she said. She and other searches
- 29:36began digging and pulled up more trash, including a fraying
- 29:39windbreak up, but eventually they reached a point that required
- 29:43stronger tools than what they had brought with them. They
- 29:46conferred and decided to return the following day with a pickaxe.
- 29:50As the search wrapped up for the day, Fernandez said
- 29:53she would continue looking for Guthrie as long as her
- 29:56disappearance remains unsalt, but she said her hope in finding
- 30:01her alive was waning and believed her spirit has left
- 30:04the earth. She is not there, Fernandez said, sadly. When
- 30:12Gary and I were in this Sonora does it. A
- 30:14few years ago we found York bottles painted water bottles
- 30:20painted black so they would not reflect the sun, and
- 30:23discarded along paths. I'm just noticing two little items I'm
- 30:29not going to read, but I should note. Neil Sedaka, singer,
- 30:33songwriter and pop hit maker in two Eras, dies at
- 30:37eighty six, and the last marine to leave Vietnam has
- 30:43died one Valdez was eighty eight. And the front page
- 30:49article of which we have so much of these days,
- 30:53Bill Clinton tells gop led panel he had no knowledge
- 30:57of Epstein's crimes. The appearance in New York marks the
- 31:02first time a former president has been compelled to testify
- 31:06before Congress under a subpoena Chaproqua New York Megan Vasquez
- 31:14and Yasmin Abu Talibu. Former President Bill Clinton sought to
- 31:21distance himself from convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein during a
- 31:27lengthy closed door deposition here Friday, saying he had no
- 31:32knowledge of Epstein's crimes and stopped associating with him years
- 31:38before his first guilty plead. I had no idea of
- 31:43the crimes that Epstein was committing. No matter how many
- 31:47photos you show me, I have two things that, at
- 31:50the end of the day, matter more than your interpretation
- 31:53of those twenty year old photos, Clinton said in his
- 31:57opening statement, which he shared on social media, adding I
- 32:01saw nothing. I did nothing wrong. He added, but even
- 32:07with twenty twenty hindsight, I saw nothing that ever gave
- 32:10me pause. We are only here because he hid it
- 32:14from everyone so well for so long. Clinton's appearance before
- 32:19the host Oversight and Government Reform Committee was the first
- 32:24time a former president had been compelled to testify before
- 32:28Congress under a subpoena, it may set a precedent that
- 32:32could one day affect President Donald Trump, whose own ties
- 32:38to Epstein are also under scrutiny. Trump has been uncharacteristically
- 32:43muted about Clinton's appearance, saying that he did not like
- 32:47the attacks on Clinton, despite years of political conflict between
- 32:51their parties. I don't like seeing him deposed, but they
- 32:56certainly went after me more than that, Trump said the
- 33:00White House on Friday before his departure to Texas. That
- 33:04has not stopped hece Republicans who have issued subpoenis to
- 33:08several people, mostly Democrats, mentioned in the Justice Department's release
- 33:13of millions of files related to the federal government's Epstein investigation.
- 33:19The Fed Oversight Committee deposed former Secretary of State and
- 33:23one time Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton for hours Thursday.
- 33:28The panel plans to release video and transcripts from the
- 33:32depositions of both Clintons in the coming days. Clinton blasted
- 33:37the committee for forcing his wife to testify even though
- 33:40she had no known association with Epstein. Hillary Clinton said
- 33:45Thursday that she had known Epstein associate Euslaine Maxwell only
- 33:50casually as an acquaintance. Before we start, I have to
- 33:56get personal. You made Hillary come in. He had nothing
- 34:00to do with Jeffrey Epstein. Nothing. Whether you subpoena ten
- 34:06people or ten thousand, including her, was simply not right.
- 34:10Clinton said in his opening statement. Host Oversight Committee Chairman
- 34:15James Como, Republican of Kentucky, said that Bill Clinton had
- 34:19been cooperative during the deposition, telling reporters after Friday's proceedings
- 34:26that the former president answered every question or attempted to
- 34:30answer every question. Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina,
- 34:37added that Clinton continued to answer the question even when
- 34:41his attorneys told him to shut up. Clinton did not
- 34:45address reporters Friday after his deposition, as Hillary Clinton did
- 34:49on Thursday. He was deposed at the same venue as
- 34:52his wife, a performing arts center in Chappaqua, New York,
- 34:57a suburban town they have long called home. The former
- 35:02president has denied any wrongdoing in connection to Epstein and
- 35:06said he had no knowledge of Epstein's criminal activities. He
- 35:11took about a half a dozen trips on Epstein's private
- 35:15jet in two thousand and two and two thousand and three.
- 35:18He also appeared in Epstein related photographs released by Congress
- 35:22and the Justice Department, including one in which he's in
- 35:26a bubbling pool with a woman whose face is redacted.
- 35:30Epstein pleaded guilty in two thousand and eight to to
- 35:33charge of soliciting prostitution, including one involving a minor. He
- 35:39was arrested on federal sex trafficking charges in twenty nineteen
- 35:43and died in federal custody later that year. His death
- 35:47was ruled a suicide. Justices and judges and law makers
- 35:52say that over decades, he abused traffic and molested scores
- 35:57of girls, many of whom have come forward in court
- 36:00and in other public forms. Clinton is referred to tens
- 36:06of thousands of times in the trope of Epstein related documents.
- 36:10The Justice Department has released. None of those. Mentions in
- 36:14the document include direct correspondence between the two or rebut
- 36:18claims by the former president's aids that he several tires
- 36:22with Epstein years before his twenty nineteen federal indictment. Coma
- 36:27told reporters this week that Republicans on the panel plan
- 36:30to ask the Clintons how Epstein accumulated his wealth, how
- 36:35he was able to surround himself with some of the
- 36:38most powerful men in the world, and whether the financier
- 36:43was he an asset for our government or any other government.
- 36:47Democrats on the committee repeatedly claimed Friday that Bill Clinton's
- 36:51appearance set a new precedent of bringing presidents and former
- 36:55presidents to testify. We are now asking and demanding that
- 37:00President Trump officially come in and testify in front of
- 37:04the Oversight Committee, said Representative Robert Garcia California, the top
- 37:09ranking Democrat on the committee. Trump had a long standing
- 37:14friendship with Epstein. He has said that he knew Epstein's
- 37:17socially in Palm Beach, Florida, and that they had a
- 37:21falling out in the mid two thousands. Trump has maintained
- 37:24that he did not know about Epstein's criminal behavior. During
- 37:29Friday's proceedings in Chappaquah, Democrats and Republicans alike signal they
- 37:35plan to pursue additional testimony beyond what's already on the
- 37:39committee's calendar. Coma told reporters We're going to bring more
- 37:45people in. Were not finished. We didn't want to announce
- 37:49names before today. It was so hard to get the
- 37:52Clintons in. I didn't want to do anything to jeopardize
- 37:55losing them. The committee has already scheduled depositions for Darren
- 38:01en Dyke and Richard Kahn, the co executives of Epstein's
- 38:06estate in March. Representative Anna Paulina Luna, Republican of Florida,
- 38:13said Friday that she plans to ask the committee to
- 38:16bring in some of the Epstein co conspirators that were
- 38:20given lesser sentences that were known to have traffic young girls. Notably.
- 38:25Committee members from both parties also signaled that they could
- 38:29have enough support to subpoena Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik to
- 38:33appear before the panel. Lutnick, who was once Epstein's Manhattan nabe,
- 38:40is based in growing scrutiny over the connection to the
- 38:44deceased financier. Testifying before Congress earlier this month, Lutnick said
- 38:50he and his family had lunch with Epstein on his
- 38:52Caribbean Allen in twenty twelve, after previously claiming that he
- 38:56and his wife had distanced themselves from Epstein around two
- 39:00thousand and five. When asked Friday about Nick potentially facing
- 39:05a subpoena from the committee, Trump said, Howard would go
- 39:09in and do whatever he has to say. He's a
- 39:11very innocent guy. He's doing a good job. Another email
- 39:16in the files showed that that bet Oz, administrative for
- 39:19the Sinners for Medicare and Medicaid Services, invited Epstein to
- 39:23a Valentine's Day party in twenty sixteen. CMS did not
- 39:27respond to real request for comment. Hillary Clinton said Thursday
- 39:32that Republicans line of questioning went beyond the panel's mandate,
- 39:36telling reporters that while she was under oath, lawmakers asked
- 39:40her about UFOs and the baseless story that a child's
- 39:44sex traffic and ring involving high ranking Democrats was operating
- 39:49out of a Washington pizza restaurant. The Clintons initially resisted
- 39:54complying with the committee's subpoenas, which they called invalid and
- 39:59legally uninf but capitulated days before the House was expected
- 40:04to hold them in criminal contempt of Congress. They then
- 40:08asked to be allowed to testify in public. The committee declined,
- 40:13opting instead for closed door proceedings. Hillary Clinton blasted her
- 40:18appearance Thursday before the committee as political theater and sharply questions,
- 40:24while the Republican led pannel insisted upon deposing her as
- 40:27part of its investigation. I don't know how many times
- 40:32I had to say I did not know Jeffrey Epstein,
- 40:36Clinton told reporters after hours of closed door testimony, adding
- 40:41I never went to his island, I never went to
- 40:44his homes, I never went to his offices. Maxwell Epstein's associate,
- 40:50has taken credit for having been very central to the
- 40:54establishment of the Clinton Global Initiative, an annual philanthropic gathering
- 40:59sponsored by the Clinton Foundation that began in two thousand
- 41:02and five. The Clinton Foundation has said it received only
- 41:06one donation for twenty five thousand dollars from an Epstein
- 41:11affiliated foundation in two thousand and six. And at the
- 41:16bottom of the front page, our Heroes are Dying Why
- 41:21Jesse Jackson's death leaves a void civil rights icon. Jesse
- 41:27Jackson leaves behind a movement that lacks a single unifying leader,
- 41:32but his legacy of inclusion could help carry it on.
- 41:37And there is a picture of people arriving to pay
- 41:40their respects to the civil rights leader Jesse Jackson as
- 41:44he lies in repose in Chicago on Thursday. And I
- 41:48gathered that his funeral procession taking him back to his
- 41:54hometown is coming through Kentucky and Governor Basher has ordered
- 42:02flags at half staff that day. I think it's tomorrow,
- 42:06but I can't remember. Greg Rischnada and Michelle Bornstein related
- 42:14to this article wrote this article in the early mornings
- 42:19after the Jesse Reverend Jesse Jackson died on February seventeenth.
- 42:25His family called another prominent pastor for prayer and solace.
- 42:30A mighty lion has passed. Bishop William Barber recalled the family, saying,
- 42:37I've been thinking about that imagery, said Barber, who leads
- 42:40Repairs of the Breach, an organization that aims to bring
- 42:44moral and religious language to causes such as safeguarding voting
- 42:48rights and alleviating poverty. Because lyons they protect the pride,
- 42:56but they also expand the territory of the and Jackson
- 43:03expanded the notion of civil rights in America. He said,
- 43:06from the black community to the full spectrum of people
- 43:10seeking justice. Thousands are expected to pay respects Friday as
- 43:18Jackson's remains lie in repose at Rainbow Slash Push headquarters
- 43:23in Chicago, following the decision by House Speaker Mike Johnson,
- 43:27Republican of Louisiana, to decline to allow Jackson to lie
- 43:32in honor at the US Capitol. Jackson's death at age
- 43:36eighty four comes at a perilous time for the civil
- 43:39rights crusade he helped lead for decades. Most of his
- 43:43iconic contemporaries are gone as President Donald Trump attacks their
- 43:48hard for principles, declaring war on diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives,
- 43:55while the found national achievement of the civil rights movement,
- 44:00the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights Act, may be on
- 44:03the verge of being overturned by the US Supreme Court.
- 44:08Our heroes are dying, and the question has to be asked,
- 44:12who comes next or what comes next? This new era
- 44:16of regression, this new era of trump Ism, has shown
- 44:20clearly that that got our new leaders are not able
- 44:24to meet the moment, said author and political commentator by
- 44:29Carrie Sellas. It's a major test of the movement in
- 44:33a fragmented landscape of social media and political division, with
- 44:38no clear successor generation to rally a response. The wellspring
- 44:43that produced leaders such as Jackson and the right Martin
- 44:47Luther King Junior. The Black Church no longer plays the
- 44:51same rule. Institutional religion doesn't have the authority of power
- 44:56it once did. In the United States, experts said, and
- 45:00the religious right for decades has been more loudly and
- 45:03successfully merging its view of Christianity and politics. The Black
- 45:11Church isn't as important as it was. It's harder to
- 45:14have a figure come out of that tradition and command
- 45:17the power and respect that Jesse Jackson did, said Chaflin
- 45:22University historian Robert Greene. The second, it's hard to manage
- 45:27to imagine someone today being able to enter the political
- 45:31realm already seen as a moral authority. If there is
- 45:36to be a robust defense of civil rights, many believe
- 45:39it'll come from Jackson's legacy of expansion, using the voting
- 45:43rights to act to get more people of color into
- 45:46voting booths and into elected office, broadening the definition of
- 45:50civil rights to include all marginalized communities such as LGBTQ
- 45:56people and people with disabilities in a common cause, and
- 46:01pushing beyond political rights to economic rights. In some ways,
- 46:07the fact that there is no obvious individual to take
- 46:10the mantle is part of Jackson's legacy, say civil rights activist,
- 46:16elected leaders and scholars. He advocated for leaders at all
- 46:21levels of government and activism carrying different parts of the mission.
- 46:26Virginia law maker Don Scott said, we have democratized leadership
- 46:32in the civil rights movement and spread it throughout the country.
- 46:37Scott said his own life found a new purpose when
- 46:39he was a college sophomore in nineteen eighty four and
- 46:42met Jackson, who was running for president. Forty years later,
- 46:47Scott became the first black person elected Speaker of the
- 46:51Virginia House of Democrat Delegates. That's the legacy of Jesse Jackson.
- 46:57He empowered a whole lot of folks to lift up
- 47:00their voice, Scott said. Brian Stevenson, a lawyer and founder
- 47:07of the Equal Justice Initiative, said it's important to remember
- 47:10the historical arc of the civil rights movement. After the
- 47:15Civil War, black men had a brief moment when they
- 47:18were able to participate in democracy. Then Jim Crow swooped
- 47:23in and defranchised black voters in the South for more
- 47:27than half of the twentieth century. During that time, without
- 47:31access to elected office, black Americans looked elsewhere for leadership
- 47:35and resistance. Black churches filled that void, giving rise to
- 47:40the civil rights movement. Stephenson said, exemplified by King and
- 47:44other figures such as Claudette coven, John Lewis, and Fanny Lowhammer,
- 47:50who blended the tone of the pulpit with politics. Younger
- 47:55generations of pastors, including those from more conservative traditions, were
- 48:01inspired to be not just pastors, but profits as well,
- 48:06said Tyler Burns, a Florida pastor and director of Witness,
- 48:10a multimedia organization aimed at elevating the voices of Black Christians. Today,
- 48:17there are some figures who echo Jackson in their focus
- 48:20on combining Black Christianity and politics to serve the disenfranchised,
- 48:27including US Senator Raphael G. Warnock, Democrat of Georgia, and
- 48:32Barbara a North Carolina organizer who founded the Center for
- 48:36Public Theology and Public Policy at Yale University. But Jackson
- 48:42was one of a kind, said Jamar Tisby, a historian, writer,
- 48:46and podcaster on race and religion. He represented the longer
- 48:52black freedom struggle, Tisby said, and harnessed a blend of charisma, ambition,
- 48:57and eloquence to an unusual moment political opportunity. The Voting
- 49:03Act were Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five, and
- 49:07Jackson's immediate recognition of the door that had opened radically
- 49:12changed the opportunity for black leadership. Stevenson said Jackson was
- 49:17particularly effective at voter registration, preaching the power of politics.
- 49:23It's a different landscape today as a result. Stevenson said,
- 49:28the Supreme Court has already weakened much of the nineteen
- 49:31sixty five Voting Rights to Act and will rule on
- 49:34whether to strike down its last major pillar in the
- 49:37coming months. The Court could further limit the use of
- 49:40race in drawing legislative maps, which would most likely lead
- 49:44to a decline in the number of minorities holding public office.
- 49:49Maryland Governor's Wes Moore, the state's first black governor among
- 49:54only three African Americans ever elected governor of any state,
- 49:59said that an attack on the VREA Voting Rights Act
- 50:04is in many ways an attack on decades of progress.
- 50:11Jackson's pivot after the passage of the law, which helped
- 50:14black officials win congressional and legislative seats, spurred the movement's success.
- 50:19More said he was able to make the transition from
- 50:23demanding change to saying, I want to be one of
- 50:27the people to help make it right because he understood
- 50:30that part of the power of the civil rights movement
- 50:33was the fact that they were able to get into rooms.
- 50:38The Brennan Just Center for Justice that the New York
- 50:41School of New York University School of Law has tracked
- 50:46efforts to roll back access to the ballot box around
- 50:51the country, including imposing voter ID laws, making registration more difficult,
- 50:57and aggressively purging voter roles. Those actions are part of
- 51:01what Georgia politician Stacy Abrams calls the exercise of diminishing
- 51:07democracy and a wholesale attack on the pluralism of America. Abrams,
- 51:13a former Georgia state lawmaker and gubernatorial candidate, said Jackson's
- 51:18legacy is key to fighting back. His Rainbow Slash Push
- 51:21coalition framed the fight for civil rights broadly as how
- 51:26do we make americamediate's obligation to all its people. Abram
- 51:31said that not only brought more marginalized groups into the struggle,
- 51:36she said, but it expanded the idea of civil rights
- 51:40beyond the political realm. Now that we had voting rights
- 51:45and civil rights, we also have to have access to
- 51:48economic rights. Abram said, for all the years Jackson carried
- 51:53on his fight, the through line was always that he
- 51:57worked to bring more people into the process so that
- 52:02as many people as possible believe they have the right
- 52:06to participate, Abram said. Former Richmond mayor LeVar Stony, who
- 52:13until term limited out of office in twenty twenty five,
- 52:18was part of a new generation of young black mayors
- 52:21around the country, said the effectiveness of Jackson's work can
- 52:25be seen in state and local offices in the South,
- 52:29Rare minorities and women have made huge strides in representation.
- 52:36The phenomenon cuts across generations, Stoney said, pointing out that
- 52:42in Virginia, eighty two year old Louise Lucas is the
- 52:47first black woman to serve as President pro tem of
- 52:52the state Senate, Scott sixty is the first black speaker,
- 52:56and Jay Jones is the first black person elected as
- 53:00the state's attorney general. Apart from President Barack Obama, Stoney said,
- 53:07I can't foresee us ever looking to one singular leader.
- 53:11There's a collective of leaders now, and we expect to
- 53:13be represented by someone who looks like us. Stoney said.
- 53:19What might be lost, though, is the unifying emotional resonance
- 53:22of a figure such as Jackson. One element that gets overlooked,
- 53:26Sellas said is that Jackson, King and other leaders of
- 53:29the day were more patriotic than most. They were able
- 53:33to look at this country and call it its failures,
- 53:37call it its broken promises, and then try to reimagine
- 53:41her for what she should look like, which is an
- 53:43inclusive society built in the image of us all. Jackson
- 53:48was able to lend that statute to others, which is
- 53:52what several remembered this week and the lead up to
- 53:54his memorial services. Stevenson said he regularly conferred with Jackson
- 53:59increase ciating the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, Alabama,
- 54:04which recognizes more than four thousand African Americans lynched during
- 54:09the Jim Crow era. At the dedication for an affiliated
- 54:13memorial in twenty twenty four, Jackson had traveled to the ceremony,
- 54:17but by then was using a wheelchair and had difficulty communicating.
- 54:22As Stevenson spoke before the crowd, he looked at and
- 54:25saw Jackson, who held his fingers in the shape of
- 54:28a heart. It was so moving to me, Stevenson said,
- 54:32and I told him, you know, you had me almost
- 54:34in tears. Abrams recalled the night of twenty eighteen when
- 54:38it became clear that she had narrowly lost the election
- 54:41for Georgia Governor. Jackson was on hand as she prepared
- 54:44to secede before supporters and some of her staff tried
- 54:48to get him to move into a VP area backstage.
- 54:52He refused. He said, I want to be here when
- 54:56she comes downstairs. I know what defeat looks like, and
- 55:00I need her to know that the work she's done
- 55:02continues and she should still be prode Abram said. Barbara
- 55:07said he intends to honor Jackson's legacy by convening a
- 55:10group in the coming weeks to study his speech at
- 55:13the nineteen eighty eight Democratic Convention, when his performance in
- 55:17the primaries brought him closer to the presidential nomination than
- 55:21anyone thought possible to galvanize a new voter movement. In
- 55:26the speech, Jackson called for unity to keep hope alive
- 55:30and said he cherished America not as an uniform blanket,
- 55:34but as a quilt. My prayer and hope, Barbara said,
- 55:38is that we're working toward at an end and bringing
- 55:41folks together, and that the dying of Jesse will not
- 55:45cause us to say woe is us? And oh, just
- 55:49look at what he did, because commemoration is not how
- 55:52you remember people like him. You remember people like him,
- 55:56by engagement, by recommitting yourselves. Gary and I went to
- 56:04Brian Stephenson's incredible National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery, Alabama,
- 56:13and the pictures of this statue that is there of
- 56:19enslaved people in chains is absolutely it was electrifying. And
- 56:27the names of all those lynched on the walls of
- 56:31one of those areas was completely also horrifying. And there
- 56:39were quite a few, even in Fayette County. And I
- 56:44happened to know about Virginia because that's where I'm from,
- 56:48and my father was both mayor of Richmond a long
- 56:52time ago and part of their state legislature. So yes,
- 56:56I was raised with politics, and I knew that that
- 57:00statue of Lee being taken down in Richmond. There's a
- 57:06picture here of Ralph Norbumb then governor of Virginia, and
- 57:10then Maya Levarstony on hand in twenty twenty one where
- 57:14the statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee was taken down,
- 57:18and it was in a huge roundabout in Richmond, and
- 57:23right there, right where my grandparents lived and looked at
- 57:29that monument every day. Quite something it was. That is
- 57:36today's reading of the Washington Post for the final day
- 57:40of February twenty twenty eight, of twenty twenty six, I
- 57:44will be back next week. Have a good weekend, enjoy
- 57:48the warmth and the sunshine. It is the official beginning
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