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Lunch with the Clydesdale - Ben Bergeron Speaks and Says Nothing!!! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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what is going on everybody
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welcome to lunch with the
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Clydesdale wow what a
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twenty four hours it's been
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since I saw you guys
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yesterday but we were back
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and better than ever I'm
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really trying hard to keep
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these a consistent everyday
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show now as projects have
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moved on and in a better
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groove with work so
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Wow.
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So within the last twenty four hours.
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First of all, Corey, seeing the chat,
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thanks for being here.
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Thank you, everybody, for being here.
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You guys are awesome as always.
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So, like,
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I'm sure everywhere around the country,
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it's this way, but like.
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Illness and the flu and
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norovirus and whatever else
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is going around has been
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like taking people out.
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so my mom got influenza a
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about a week ago so I've
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been calling her every day
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because she lives alone uh
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just checking on her and
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she's been hacking and
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coughing and sleeping and
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um just a bunch of crazy
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stuff and so yesterday gosh
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about fourth four o'clock I
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called her to see how she was doing
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um and she just said she
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felt really weak and this
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is a week into the thing
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and I I said well what's
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the plan because you're a
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week into this and
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nothing's getting better
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and she said she called the
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doctor and the doctor said
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that hey go to the hospital
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the best I can we can do at
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this point is get a chest
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x-ray and make sure that
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this hasn't turned into
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pneumonia and my mom's like
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I don't even know if I can
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get to my car and drive to
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the hospital I said well
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let's stay in touch
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About an hour later,
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I get a call from one of
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her friends and another one
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of her friends is an RN.
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And she checked on my mom and said,
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enough's enough, called the ambulance.
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My mom was then rushed to
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the hospital where she was
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taken to the ER and just x-rays given.
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And it turns out she has pneumonia.
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So they started IV
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antibiotics to clear that up.
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With that happening,
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I get a call from my sister.
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And my sister tells me that
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my mom's sister has passed away.
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So my mom does not know this.
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We're getting word that she
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has passed away.
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She is my mom's older sister
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and the only sister she has left.
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My mom is the one of four.
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Her other two sisters have passed away.
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This one passed away yesterday.
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and so I'm the oldest I'm
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the big brother to my
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sister so I made the call
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to my mom while she's in
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the er while she's hooked
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up to ivs to let her know
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that her sister had passed
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away we both cried a little
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bit um just then her pastor
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had actually walked in to
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see her and so that was
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That was really good that he
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was there and they got to
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chat and pray and do all
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those things to kind of help her out.
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There was a lot of back and
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forth throughout the
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evening with my nephew who
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was raised by my mom,
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lives here in Columbus.
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We are trying to figure out
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like a tag team approach to
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go home to be with her so that he can,
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so we can make it a longer
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stretch than just a couple days.
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So he left this morning.
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He's probably just getting there now.
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He's going to be with her for now.
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And then I'm heading out on
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Friday to go be with her for the weekend.
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So there's that.
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So then I finally am like, listen,
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I need some rest.
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I need to get to bed.
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I wake up this morning to
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find out that someone has
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hacked my debit card account somehow,
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and five massive purchases
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were made on my debit card overnight.
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And...
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And I'm missing several
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hundred dollars from my account.
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And I get an alert from my bank.
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I talked to them.
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They actually stopped some
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of those charges.
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I had to dispute a couple others.
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So now I'm in that process
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and I don't have a working
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bank card to try to get home to my mom.
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They are mailing me one ASAP.
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I do have my wife's.
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So, you know, we'll figure all that out.
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But my goodness,
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what a freaking twenty four hours.
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It has been utterly crazy.
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And I'm just trying to kind
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of settle in with you guys today.
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and get a little bit of
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normalcy and then figure
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out my trips for the week to get to her,
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hang out with her for the weekend.
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yeah yeah just try to take a
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breath just try to take a
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breath thank you both corey
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and lex for the thoughts
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the prayers um I appreciate
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every single one of them um
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but I did talk to her this
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morning she is feeling better and her
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her cough is not as deep.
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Um, so,
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and she's able to breathe better at
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this point.
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Um,
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so it looks like she is stabilized out.
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It also affected her blood sugar horribly.
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Um,
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they've got that back under control
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this morning.
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Um,
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And I think I've shared this
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on the show before.
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She went into AFib too.
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She is still in AFib,
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which complicated some of
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the aspects of this a little bit.
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But it looks like they have
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everything kind of stabilized right now.
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So, yeah.
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crazy crazy crazy crazy and
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my sister is sick as well
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and so my sister does not
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want to take any of her
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illness into the hospital
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with her to my mom so we
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have that aspect as well
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and there is some
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suspicious things going on
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with her that she has an
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appointment on monday and
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can't miss that appointment
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because of what's going on
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with her yeah just
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Um, so yeah, that's,
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what's going on in my neck of the woods.
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Uh, but yeah,
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I hope everyone else is
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having a great day.
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Um, it's another snowy cold day here in,
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in Columbus, but, um, but you know, uh,
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we're, we're getting through that too.
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so I want to to let you guys
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know don't forget we had
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great great getting a lot
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of feedback on instagram um
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a couple comments on
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youtube about the sunday
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night crossfit show from
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last week a lot of people
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really enjoyed the
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different perspectives and
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the respectful conversation
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we had about the crossfit
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open and other things
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happening in the crossfit
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space so make sure you go check that out
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It is one of our better,
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one of our most watched
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episodes as of late,
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and it's definitely worth the watch.
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So make sure you go check that out.
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In addition to that,
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tomorrow afternoon at three p.m.
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Eastern time, noon Pacific,
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we'll have Justin Kotler on
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the show to talk about
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underdogs athletics and where they're at,
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what happened with the
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Ricky Garrard situation,
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what the future looks like for underdogs.
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They did sign a new athlete.
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If you have not seen that,
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we'll talk about that as well.
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And so excited to catch up
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with my friend Justin
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tomorrow and talk about all
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things CrossFit, World Fitness Project,
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what it's like to be a
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coach with all the
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opportunities out there,
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things like that.
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So make sure you check in
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and see that show tomorrow, three p.m.
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Eastern, noon Pacific.
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And then now we'll get into
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the headline for this show,
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and that is...
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Ben Bergeron talked about
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why he was out of the CrossFit,
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not out of the CrossFit Open.
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Sorry.
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Brain fog.
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Brain fog.
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Why he de-affiliated
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CrossFit New England and is
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no longer affiliated.
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what's crazy to me is when I
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first got into CrossFit and
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for those of you who don't know,
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I started in, like,
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so pretty early on in the
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process of CrossFit.
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One of the podcasts I
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listened to all the time
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was chasing excellence.
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Listen to that podcast constantly.
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When I first got into
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CrossFit at some point, um,
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I kind of learned what Corey
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is talking about,
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that he has a Rolodex of
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inspirational sayings.
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He got from other people and
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then he passes them off as his own.
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And what I kind of learned too,
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is that like,
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there wasn't a lot of
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substance behind the words.
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He was great at saying the things.
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Um,
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but at some point I felt like they just
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didn't ring true.
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so just as I said on the
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sunday night crossfit show
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I want to be a place where
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people can freely talk
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about why they feel some
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way or why they don't feel
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some way and that we can we
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can have a discussion about
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that in an adult manner in
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a respectful manner
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Um, and maybe not change each other's mind,
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but at least respect where
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that is coming from.
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Um,
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and still be friends at the end of the
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day.
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And that's kind of the
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beautiful thing with Carolyn, Jamie and I,
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we don't always, we very,
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we rarely agree completely on any subject,
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um,
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But we can have the conversation,
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and at the end of the show,
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we're still friends,
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which is what I love about that show.
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And I love the fact that we
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can keep it respectful
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during those conversations.
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But I heard that Ben
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Bergeron has been talking
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about why he de-affiliated.
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He did that like a couple months ago,
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it was my understanding.
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But he brought out an
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episode on his podcast,
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Chasing Excellence.
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where they brought a guest
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on to talk about why they deaffiliated.
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And I was watching it last
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night when I actually was
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having trouble sleeping.
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And it just really, really annoyed me.
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And I hope that regardless
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of your feelings of what
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happened at last year's games,
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we can have a discussion about this.
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And he actually points to
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the death of Lazar Jukic as
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the reason that he is
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de-affiliating and the
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CrossFit reaction to that.
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And so I'm actually going to
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play a snippet.
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And trust me, I get it.
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I was there that weekend.
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It sucked.
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It sucked bad.
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And he talks about how it was bad there.
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Um,
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and they talk about how they love the
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community and the community
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was like at a loss for what to do.
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They wanted to be together.
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They felt like they were
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drawn together in that moment,
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but they did not know what
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to do in that moment.
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And they go on to talk about
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the leadership of CrossFit,
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but Ben has actually asked
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what would he have done differently?
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If he were in that situation
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and I have it queued up from his podcast.
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And so I'm going to share it now.
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And again,
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this is from the chasing
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excellence podcast.
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I'm going to blow it up so
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you guys can kind of see full screen.
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And here he's asked the
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question and this is his answer.
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So I want to take those two things.
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I do want to explore with the both of you.
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what could have been done
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differently that would have
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led to a different outcome,
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at least as best as the two
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of you can figure for your
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particular environments and contexts.
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So Ben, I'll start with you.
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If you could bring us back a
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year or maybe just even to
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the games and you were in
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the leadership position at CrossFit HQ,
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what would you have done
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differently can you can you
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walk us through at least
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some of the places that you
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would have went left when
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they run white right where
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you would have pressed the
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gas when they press the
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brake well I don't know
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what I would have done
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because no one knows what
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they would do until they're
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put in that really
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challenging situation so what I would do
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is the right thing I mean it
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just sounds so cliche but
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really that's not what
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happened and I don't mean
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here's okay he starts by
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saying I don't know what I
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would do because nobody
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knows what they would do
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unless they're in that
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situation and then after a
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pause says I would do the right thing
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What does that even mean?
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Here we are talking six
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months after the event.
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You have had six months to
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reflect on what happened at
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the CrossFit Games.
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I'm going to admit to you,
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I have no idea how I would
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handle that situation.
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It is an inconceivable
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situation for me to be able
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to put myself there,
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understand everything going on around me,
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and to armchair quarterback
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what happened in those moments.
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He starts off right by
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saying that exact damn thing.
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And then to say, but I do know this,
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I would have done the right thing.
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How can you say you don't
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know what you would have done,
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but it would have been the right thing?
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Are you kidding me?
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We've had six months to think about this.
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Six months for you to
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contemplate everything that
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happened in that moment.
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And when asked what you
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would have done differently,
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you can't tell me.
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You say you don't know,
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but it would have been the right thing.
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How in the hell can you say that?
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Corey says, that makes no sense, Ben.
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Andrew, vague and ambiguous,
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so no one can pin anything on him.
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James W.,
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this is a situation where there's
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no right way to respond,
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but there sure as hell is a
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wrong way to respond.
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CrossFit HQ fumbled the
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reaction in response to the
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tragedy horribly.
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I don't know what the right thing to do is,
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but I do the right thing.
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That is exactly what he said.
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There are factors at play
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here that we don't know about.
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CrossFit is not owned by Dawnfall.
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CrossFit is not owned by Dave Castro.
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There is a board of directors.
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There is a whatever they're called,
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the company that bought CrossFit,
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Berkshire, that
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have more say as to how that
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reaction was than any of the other people,
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any other players in that situation.
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Were there things done incorrectly?
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I will tell you unequivocally there were.
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It could have been handled better.
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The tribute could have been
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handled better.
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Meeting with the athletes
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could have been handled better.
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And there has been
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admissions from CrossFit HQ
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that they did not do that right.
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But to tell you that with a
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board of directors over top
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of me telling me what I can and cannot do,
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I don't know what would
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have happened through that situation.
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James W. The idea that
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CrossFit HQ should have
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turned over the independent
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investigation report is just naive.
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They're almost certainly
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legally precluded from
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disclosing it for many reasons.
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I agree with you.
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One hundred percent, James.
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uh kpj barry he goes on to
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say that he really waited
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for hq to respond I'll fall
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and admit wrongdoing or
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inadequate safety and say
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we messed up and they never
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did he does do that I will
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tell you he does go on and
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say that but I will go back
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to what james just said
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that I am sure there are
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legal things that that
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preclude them from
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admitting that they did anything wrong
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in the, in that action of the death,
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if they admit they are wrong,
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they're opening themselves
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up for massive lawsuits.
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And I am sure that that is
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what the board of directors
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are focused on and,
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and Berkshire and all of that.
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Um,
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and it's funny because we
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have the Daniel Chaffee interview today,
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and I'm going to talk about
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that in a minute,
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but a lot of what he says, um,
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kind of plays a part in,
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in what happened here.
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Um, and, and he does,
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he does say that they
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should have stepped up.
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They should have admitted
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what they did wrong.
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Um,
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And they have admitted some wrongdoing,
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that they did handle things in some ways.
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But to admit wrongdoing is
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admitting guilt when there
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are probably pending lawsuits.
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And even if there aren't pending lawsuits,
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by admitting guilt,
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you're opening up yourself
20:44
for even more lawsuits.
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And with that,
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it probably means CrossFit
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doesn't exist anymore.
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And if you're Berkshire and
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the board of directors,
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that is the last thing you want.
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And therefore why they
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probably gave directives to
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the leadership at that time
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that they could only go
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this far in what they were saying.
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So.
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Anyway,
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the way he answered that question
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just really upset me a lot
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while I couldn't sleep and
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then I couldn't sleep some more.
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But it just felt like a play
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for trying to be relevant again.
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as we're six months post games,
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we are into a new hit.
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And he even said like,
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it has nothing to do with
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the affiliate fee raises.
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It has nothing to do with
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all the decisions that
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CrossFit made before.
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Now the guest on here with
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him goes in a different
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direction entirely.
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He said,
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this is something that's been
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brewing for him since twenty twenty.
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And he finally made the
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decision and the nail in
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the coffin was the death at the games.
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I actually understood his
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plight way more than I understood Ben's.
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Um, because he thinks that there is a,
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a trend in not doing what's
22:26
best for the affiliates and
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not doing what's best for, um,
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the members in the CrossFit space.
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So Corey says,
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to even expect there's some
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sort of protocol for a
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tragedy of this magnitude is absurd.
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No one expected anyone to die,
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not a single person.
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While I agree with you there,
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what he keeps saying in the
22:59
podcast is that your...
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Your moral compass or your
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integrity should have come to the front.
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Um, yeah,
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a lot of those catchphrases that
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he's been spouting for
23:18
years and just to be transparent,
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my old gym used to do comp train.
23:35
Programming, I was never a fan of it.
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It made me probably have a
23:41
distaste for Ben Bergeron.
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And so I've never been a big
23:49
fan to begin with,
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other than when I first got
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into CrossFit and listened
23:52
to his Chasing Excellence
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podcast back then.
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But then I wondered what the heck.
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CrossFit says,
24:09
feels like when Mark
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Wahlberg said he would have stopped nine,
24:12
eleven when, if he was on that plane.
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Yeah.
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Corey's gym still follows comp train.
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Wondering how much longer after this.
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I think there's going to be
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a group that go ahead and
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continue to follow,
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but I don't know what that means.
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What I find it really kind of
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super ironic is now with the
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rumored sale of CrossFit, why now?
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Why now to make all these
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statements when in a few
24:50
months we could have a
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completely different leadership in place?
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Not only is it weird and
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doesn't really say much,
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the timing of it is just bizarre.
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So...
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Yeah, and then I'm going to,
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one other thing about the podcast.
25:14
You'll notice that just like
25:17
myself and many other podcasts out there,
25:20
we go live.
25:22
What you see is what you get.
25:25
What I find really hard to
25:26
watch with Chasing
25:27
Excellence is they use an
25:30
AI editor that takes out
25:34
any large gaps between
25:36
words and that choppiness.
25:39
makes me feel like I'm
25:40
watching a mix max headroom
25:42
commercial from the eighties.
25:46
lowers my trust in what's
25:48
being said if you have to
25:50
use that much editing to
25:52
try to make yourself look
25:53
the best you can possibly
25:54
look I am so much more into
25:59
a podcast that just lets it
26:01
flow and it is what it is
26:03
you are what you are um
26:06
it's much more believable but man
26:10
There's a couple people out
26:11
there that use that AI editing,
26:13
and it is.
26:15
It makes it really hard for
26:16
me to watch and believe
26:18
anything that's being said.
26:20
Because you can't tell
26:21
what's been AI edited and
26:23
what's been edited.
26:28
So.
26:31
The other thing that's weird to me is,
26:33
you know,
26:34
Ben was taking a step back from
26:36
the competitive CrossFit world, right?
26:38
He was going to dive into his affiliate.
26:40
It was all about the affiliate.
26:42
But the reason that he's
26:43
de-affiliating is because
26:44
of the sport which he had
26:46
taken a step back from.
26:55
Corey says, agreed CrossFit.
26:56
Harry Pauly was and is legit.
26:59
The individual track fell
27:00
off directly after he left.
27:02
Now Cole is in charge and a
27:04
lot of buzzwords.
27:12
So if you're taking a step
27:14
back from the sport of
27:16
CrossFit to focus on your
27:18
affiliate and focus on the community,
27:21
Why would an action from the
27:22
games be what pulls you away from that?
27:29
They've been an affiliate
27:30
for eighteen years and now
27:32
now is when you're going to
27:33
take a step back.
27:48
Um, clock asks,
27:49
what did you not like about
27:50
CT programming?
27:54
I've said this a million times and, um,
27:59
what I didn't like about it
28:01
was it was programmed for
28:03
people who wanted to be
28:05
competitive and CrossFit.
28:08
It looked at,
28:09
and if you go back and listen
28:11
to chasing excellence back in the day,
28:14
It looked at the programming
28:16
from the open to semifinals to regionals,
28:19
whatever they were at the time,
28:21
to the games,
28:23
and it programmed for that
28:25
to make you the best
28:26
competitive athlete possible.
28:28
It is comp train for competitors.
28:33
I am and never will be an
28:35
elite athlete in the CrossFit space.
28:39
What I loved about CrossFit
28:40
was the unknown and the unknowable,
28:43
going into the gym and
28:45
being surprised about the
28:46
workout and doing it because it was fun.
28:52
Not dumbbells every third
28:56
day because dumbbells have
28:58
been programmed a lot at
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regionals this year.
29:01
I wanted to lift barbells, not dumbbells.
29:04
I wanted to do the fun stuff, right?
29:10
I am currently fifty-five years old.
29:13
I want to be healthy and
29:16
live a longer life,
29:17
and I want to have fun while doing it.
29:21
And that's what CrossFit
29:22
gave me when I first got into it.
29:24
When we started doing comp training,
29:26
comp train training, it became just meh.
29:33
Like the same shit all the time.
29:36
And like trying to be a
29:39
competitive athlete.
29:41
I went to local comps and just did my best,
29:45
had fun.
29:47
But I was never going to be
29:48
an elite athlete, and I don't need that.
29:51
I need to just be healthy
29:52
and be the best Scott I can
29:55
be going forward.
29:57
That's why I didn't like it.
29:59
And I could probably,
30:01
if I dove into Mayhem
30:02
programming or if I dove
30:03
into any of these other
30:06
template programmings that
30:08
you get from the big guys,
30:12
I probably would have the same complaint.
30:18
when I first got into
30:19
crossfit literally the
30:21
owner of our gym would come
30:22
in and write the workout on
30:24
the board as we were
30:24
standing there so nobody
30:26
even knew what it was it's
30:29
whatever equipment whatever
30:31
timing we had at the time
30:32
and he would make it out as
30:34
we stood there when I was
30:36
at when I first went to um
30:39
polaris christy and patrick
30:42
did a lot of interval
30:43
training which was just fun
30:46
I liked the interval training.
30:47
I liked a lot of rowing.
30:50
They had a lot of bench press.
30:51
They had a lot of the things
30:53
that I like to do.
30:58
So, yeah, that's what I'll say.
31:04
And I think that some of the
31:06
affiliates have lost their
31:07
way in that aspect.
31:09
A lot of people just are
31:10
coming in to be the healthiest.
31:13
Fifty five year old or the healthiest,
31:15
thirty five year old or the
31:17
healthiest twenty five year
31:18
old that they can be,
31:20
and they're not there to be
31:21
a competitive athlete.
31:24
And I think some of the
31:25
template programmings don't
31:27
necessarily feed into that.
31:35
So, and it's not taking anything away from,
31:38
as Corey is saying,
31:39
mayhem and EMOM and even comp train.
31:42
Like there are people that
31:43
love that stuff and they
31:44
want to be competitive and
31:45
they want to do those
31:46
things and go for it.
31:47
For me personally,
31:48
that's just not the kind of
31:50
CrossFit that I signed up for.
31:57
So that's it.
32:04
Um,
32:06
I'm going to finish up today
32:08
now that I got the ben rant
32:11
off of my chest uh if you
32:13
have not seen the coffee
32:15
pods and mods interview
32:16
with daniel chaffee
32:18
yesterday matt souza had a
32:19
show where he got out a lot
32:22
of red yarn connected a lot
32:25
of dots a little bit hard
32:28
to follow did my best
32:32
it seems that CrossFit is
32:33
selling or has been sold or
32:36
is close to selling.
32:38
And with his ball of yarn
32:41
connected these dots that
32:43
an entity in Europe named B
32:45
sport is behind this,
32:47
the purchase and that they
32:49
own the hustle up app.
32:51
They own, uh, Northern spirit clothing.
32:56
Um,
32:59
And somehow in that ball of yarn,
33:01
one of the connected dots
33:02
was that Daniel Chaffee had
33:04
a good shot at being CEO.
33:09
What I'll tell you is I
33:10
watched the interview on
33:12
coffee pods and wants today.
33:15
to see if that question was
33:17
going to be asked and what
33:19
his response to that was.
33:21
I am less inclined to believe that that is,
33:25
uh, the case and who,
33:30
and him not being the CEO, but dang,
33:33
after listening to the full interview,
33:35
I would love him to be the CEO.
33:40
And, um,
33:44
So it's,
33:45
it's interesting when that came up and,
33:48
and he even at the very end
33:50
of it acknowledges that he
33:52
knew that there was
33:53
discussion yesterday about
33:56
him being CEO and all of that.
33:58
And he was very flattered by it.
34:00
But, um, but he is, he is just,
34:06
he's been around CrossFit
34:08
for a very long time.
34:09
He owns three boxes in France and,
34:12
that seem very, very popular.
34:15
Um,
34:15
I think the one Jimmy said had eight
34:17
hundred members.
34:18
Um,
34:19
he is the organizer of the French
34:21
Throwdown.
34:22
One thing I found
34:23
interesting is of the
34:25
twelve years they've put that on,
34:27
only five years have they made a profit.
34:30
Um, and
34:37
The important part,
34:38
and I really want to talk
34:39
about this with the ladies
34:41
on Sunday Night CrossFit Talk,
34:42
so we'll probably bring that up there.
34:45
But he said it's all really
34:46
important as to who the buyer is.
34:48
If it's another one of these
34:51
holding companies or
34:56
investment banker types,
35:00
He didn't seem interested at
35:02
all to be a CEO.
35:03
If it's someone that's
35:04
passionate about CrossFit
35:06
and wants to grow it,
35:08
then he did seem interested,
35:11
but he said there's a half
35:12
a dozen people he think
35:13
could do a better job or as
35:16
good a job as he could.
35:19
And the way he kind of described it was,
35:22
we don't need someone in
35:23
here to come and do a flip.
35:26
You buy like a four hundred
35:27
year old mansion and you
35:29
don't want someone to come
35:30
in and just to try to flip
35:31
it to sell it off.
35:33
You want someone that's
35:34
going to come in and handle
35:37
the renovations with care
35:38
and have something
35:39
beautiful at the end
35:41
because it has a history, a rich history,
35:45
a beautiful history.
35:47
And you want to accentuate that
35:51
and,
35:51
and it needs to be something that
35:54
someone wants to keep around for fifteen,
35:56
twenty, thirty years, um,
36:00
which I found fascinating,
36:02
but it's a great interview, um,
36:06
here's what it looks like
36:08
if you hop over to YouTube, uh, again,
36:11
it's on the Coffee Pods and Wads channel,
36:14
uh,
36:16
That is Daniel Chaffee right there.
36:19
It is The State of CrossFit
36:20
is the title of the video.
36:23
And it's very well done.
36:27
I really, really enjoyed it.
36:29
And I think he brought a lot
36:32
to the table as to what can
36:34
be done to make things better.
36:36
He also, I think, cleared up.
36:44
I think he makes statements
36:46
in here about that if
36:49
you're a private equity
36:50
company coming in and you
36:52
have a roadmap as to how to
36:54
make profit and that does
36:56
not meet your expectations
36:59
in the first year or two,
37:01
then you just start saying
37:02
no to anything that costs money.
37:07
And he insinuates that that
37:08
is what Don has been faced
37:10
with for the last couple years.
37:14
is that the private equity
37:15
firm is basically just
37:17
saying no to everything that costs money.
37:24
So if it is selling hope
37:27
that it's someone that's
37:28
passionate about CrossFit
37:30
that wants it to grow,
37:32
that wants it to be the
37:33
beautiful thing that it is,
37:35
and not just a fast remodel
37:39
flip to sell off in a few years.
37:45
so yeah with that it's been
37:50
a rough day for me I'm
37:52
gonna go chill back at my
37:54
work desk and uh crossfit
38:00
says cut cut cut make the
38:02
asset sellable on paper
38:04
right and I think at this
38:06
point because their plan
38:08
didn't go as they saw it it's cut cut cut
38:13
And try not to lose as much
38:15
money as possible.
38:19
So don't forget tomorrow.
38:21
We have Justin Kotler on the show, uh,
38:23
three PM Eastern noon Pacific, uh,
38:27
talking about underdogs and
38:28
what happened with Ricky.
38:30
Um,
38:32
In addition to that,
38:35
we've got the Sunday Night
38:35
Show coming back this week.
38:37
We've got the Roundtable tomorrow.
38:39
We'll talk about all this
38:40
stuff that's been going on.
38:41
I know some of the
38:42
Roundtable folks have
38:43
strong feelings about Ben Bergeron,
38:45
so that may be a topic again tomorrow.
38:49
But yeah, with that, lunch is over.
38:54
Get back to work, you hooligans.
38:56
And I will see you guys tomorrow.
39:01
Bye.