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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Men Who Had His Ear (7/21/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep pulling on this Jean Luke Brunel thread,
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Speaker 1: and today we're going to talk about his ties to
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Speaker 1: Steve Mnuchin. Steve Mnuchin is currently the treasure Secretary in
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's administration, and a guy that has always run
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Speaker 1: in these circles, right. He was producing movies, always had
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Speaker 1: big bucks, and has always been rubbing elbows with people
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Speaker 1: in so called polite society. But isn't it strange that
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Speaker 1: so many people in so called polite society have these
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Speaker 1: ties to Jeffrey Epstein and his toad ass associates. It's
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Speaker 1: all just a big coincidence though, right, That's what they
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Speaker 1: would have you believe. But in reality, folks, both sides
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Speaker 1: of the aisle, all of our leaders, everybody held up
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Speaker 1: on a pedestal, seems to be a scumbag. And the
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Speaker 1: sooner we understand that as a populace, the sooner we
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Speaker 1: stop arguing with each other about which turd smells less
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Speaker 1: like shit, the better off we're all gonna be. But
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Speaker 1: as of now we've fallen right into their trap. They
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Speaker 1: want you to hate your neighbor, they want you to
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Speaker 1: hate your cousin, They want you to hate your friends.
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Speaker 1: All for what reason? So we're easier to control. That's
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Speaker 1: what this is all about, folks. Do you doubt it.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the CIA here, okay, the same people
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Speaker 1: who brought in Japanese scientists who are engaging in biological
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Speaker 1: experiments on human beings. Look up Unit thirty seven thirty one.
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Speaker 1: Then what about all of the Nazis that they brought
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Speaker 1: in to help them out and they just expunged all
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Speaker 1: their records because guess what, it's for the greater good.
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Speaker 1: The means justifies the end, and we see it over
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Speaker 1: and over again throughout history. These are the same people,
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Speaker 1: the CIA, the intelligence agencies, the FBI are politicians that
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Speaker 1: were okay with bringing in these war criminals from Japan
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Speaker 1: and Germany because you know, the greater good law. These
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Speaker 1: are the same people that are busy protecting Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 1: throughout the decades. So again, they don't have a track
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Speaker 1: record of being honest or honorable, the intelligence agencies. In fact,
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Speaker 1: it's the complete opposite. And then you add in all
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Speaker 1: of these dumb ass rich billionaires that are so willing
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Speaker 1: to be involved with these scumbags, and you have a
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Speaker 1: recipe for disaster, and that is exactly where we are, Folks,
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Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle, both groups of politicians, and
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Speaker 1: everybody in between is busy gaslighting us. They're they're so
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Speaker 1: concerned about making sure that the populaces always looked for
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Speaker 1: a boogeyman so that we don't see what they're doing
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Speaker 1: behind the curtain. And when you read articles like this
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Speaker 1: with Steve manoochin Acosta, then on the other side you
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Speaker 1: have you know, Bill Clinton, you have Ron Burkele. It
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Speaker 1: goes on and on, right, The point is, if you're
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Speaker 1: sitting at the buffet of confirmation bias, especially with this case,
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Speaker 1: and you think it's just one side or the other,
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Speaker 1: you are doing yourself a disservice and you are doing
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Speaker 1: the case of disservice both sides of the aisle, Democrat, Republican,
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Speaker 1: and all of the intelligence services and all of their minions,
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Speaker 1: they all hold responsibility for what happened in this Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: Epstein case. Remember, folks, four different presidencies. This has happened
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Speaker 1: under four administrations and still no arrests. Well, today, today
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Speaker 1: is Steve Mnuchin's turn to have the spotlight put on
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Speaker 1: him and for the questions to be asked why were
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Speaker 1: you involved in a relationship, business or otherwise with Jean
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Speaker 1: Luke Brunel. Today's article is from The Daily Beast and
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Speaker 1: the author is Emily Sugarman. And again the Daily Beast
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Speaker 1: has done great work here, folks. Emily Sugarman has done
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Speaker 1: fantastic work. Kate Bricolett has done incredible work. She's a
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Speaker 1: very good journalist. And you know, the list goes on
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Speaker 1: over here at the Daily Beast. And for me, I
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Speaker 1: might not agree with their politics in some regard in
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Speaker 1: some articles, but I don't care about any of that.
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Speaker 1: All I care about is that they're being truthful when
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Speaker 1: it comes to this story, that they're doing their their
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Speaker 1: due diligence when it comes to this story, and that
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Speaker 1: they're holding people account because you see, that's what journalists
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Speaker 1: are supposed to do. They're supposed to hold people in
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Speaker 1: power to account, not cover for them. Headline Steve Mnuchin's
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Speaker 1: mysterious link to creepy Epstein Model Scout author Emily Sugarman.
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Speaker 1: In the late nineteen eighties, before he was a member
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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's cabinet or even a high rolling hedge
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Speaker 1: fund manager, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin served in an official
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Speaker 1: capacity for a business run by one of Jeffrey Epstein's
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Speaker 1: most infamous associates. How has Mnuchin not had to answer
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Speaker 1: for this? I mean this is a serious, a serious situation.
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Speaker 1: He has to answer for his relationship with John Luke Brunell.
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Speaker 1: In official records, Mnuchin is listed as the official state
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Speaker 1: point of contact for Next Management Corporation, a company formed
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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight by modeling modeling industry insiders Jean
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Speaker 1: Luke Brunell and Arnaud Brunell. At the time, Jean Luke
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Speaker 1: Burnell had just been the subject of a sixty minutes
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Speaker 1: documentary accusing him of drugging and raping at least three models. Later,
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Speaker 1: he would be accused by two women of supplying girls
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Speaker 1: to Epstein to be sexually abused. Brunell has denied the allegations.
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Speaker 1: So not only was Mnuchin involved with this scumbag clown,
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Speaker 1: it was right around the same time that the allegations
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Speaker 1: were first breaking that Jean Luke Brunell was drugging and
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Speaker 1: raping girls. And yet Steve Mnuchin thinks it's a good
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Speaker 1: idea to engage in business with this man. He thinks
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Speaker 1: it's a good idea to be involved as a front
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Speaker 1: for this company or as a point of contact for
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Speaker 1: the next Management Corporation. Really, records accessed by The Daily
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Speaker 1: Beast list Mnuchin as the New York Department of State
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Speaker 1: process for Next Management Corporation. According to department officials, the
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Speaker 1: DOS process is the person who files a company's registration
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Speaker 1: papers and receives lawsuits and other official documents on their behalf,
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Speaker 1: usually a lawyer or some other legal representative. So Mnuchin
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Speaker 1: was in charge of receiving any sort of a lawsuit
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Speaker 1: or document on the behalf of Jean lup Bernel's company next.
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Speaker 1: And this isn't a bigger story. More people aren't talking
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Speaker 1: about this. Look, people like Steve Mnuchin and the rest
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Speaker 1: of these billionaires. I don't want them in the presidential cabinets.
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Speaker 1: I don't want them in public office. You mean to
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Speaker 1: tell me there's no better, nobody better to be in
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Speaker 1: the Treasury Department secretary than this man. We have no
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Speaker 1: better people to do this job in a country of
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Speaker 1: three hundred and what sixty million people. I'm sorry, but
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Speaker 1: I don't buy that. And furthermore, I'm pretty sick and
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Speaker 1: tired of all of these billionaires sliding into these presidential
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Speaker 1: cabinet positions with it's no sort of experience at statesmanship.
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Speaker 1: A Treasury Department official said Mnuchin did not know he
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Speaker 1: was listed as the DOS process for Next Management Corporation
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Speaker 1: before the Daily Beasts inquiry. He said it was not
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Speaker 1: clear how Manuchin wound up serving in that role, and
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Speaker 1: added that the Secretary did not recall ever meeting either
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Speaker 1: Brunell brother and had never done business with either of them.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your name just magically appeared on the document.
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Speaker 1: It just showed up one day on the document. You
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Speaker 1: know what, your pen, your crossman pen, got up and
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Speaker 1: walked from your desk and went and signed the paperwork.
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Speaker 1: Is that what you would have us believe there, mister Munuchin?
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Speaker 1: How aren't more people digging into this? How come these
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Speaker 1: aren't questions that are being asked at a huge rate
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Speaker 1: and a fast clip. Munuchin's office did confirm that he
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Speaker 1: was longtime friends with Faith Kates, the owner of the
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Speaker 1: Next modeling agency. Well, how about that? Does it shock
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Speaker 1: you that he's great friends with Faith Kates, another one
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Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein's confidants, another person that procured girls for
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, did the Trump transition team even bother to
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Speaker 1: do their job. Or were they just like, all right,
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Speaker 1: whoever wants a job, come on down. You guys want
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Speaker 1: a job, come on down. That's basically what it looks like.
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Speaker 1: Did they call like a service, an employment service to
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Speaker 1: get these cabinet positions at filed? This is the best
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Speaker 1: we got, huh, Steve Manouchin is the best we have,
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Speaker 1: the best America has to offer for this position. If
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Speaker 1: that's the case, folks, then forget it. We're done as
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Speaker 1: a civilization. We might as well pack it in now
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Speaker 1: and call it a day. The Brunel brothers co founded
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Speaker 1: the Next Agency with Kate's in nineteen eighty nine, and
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Speaker 1: their company, Next Management Corporation owned the t twenty five
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Speaker 1: percent stake in the agency for several years. The address
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Speaker 1: listed under Mnuchin's name is the State Department Records is
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Speaker 1: the first address for Kate's company, Next Management Company. So again,
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Speaker 1: he can say he doesn't know Brunell or his brother.
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Speaker 1: He can act like he has no ideal or anything
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Speaker 1: like or anything about any of this, But the reality
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Speaker 1: is we know the truth. The evidence is right here.
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Speaker 1: Your name just doesn't appear on a document like this
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Speaker 1: Steve Mnuchin. Reached by the Daily Beast, Kate's denied any
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Speaker 1: involvement with setting up Next Management Corporation and said she
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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Mnuchen serving as the DOS process.
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Speaker 1: Nobody knows anything. They can't hear nothing, they saw nothing,
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Speaker 1: they know nothing. How dare you for even asking? Don't
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Speaker 1: you know that? I'm faith Kates given that she never
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Speaker 1: designated anyone, including Secretary Mnuchin, to be DOS process or
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Speaker 1: any officer or director of Next Management Corp. Again, I
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Speaker 1: guess his name was just picked out of a hat.
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Speaker 1: They were like, you know what, let's go through the
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Speaker 1: yellow pages. We'll write down some names, and let's just
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Speaker 1: yank one of them out of a hat. Really you
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Speaker 1: think that's what occurred? Or do you think that mister
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Speaker 1: Minuchin is not being honest with us. The spokesperson added
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Speaker 1: that Kate's agency sued Next Management Corporation twenty five years
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Speaker 1: ago over allegations that the Brunell brothers had raided the agency,
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Speaker 1: and said Kate's had not had any contact with them
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Speaker 1: since then. She said Kate's had no knowledge of why
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Speaker 1: her company's address was listed in official records for Next
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Speaker 1: Management Corporation. I mean, really, you don't know why your
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Speaker 1: company's listed. Huh. Well, maybe it's the fact that you
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Speaker 1: know Jeffrey Epstein and your boy there, Jean Luke Burnell
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Speaker 1: were ponying updoe to you. Maybe it's the fact that
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Speaker 1: they were closer to you than you would like to admit.
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Speaker 1: And maybe it's the fact that what you're trying to
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Speaker 1: do now is nothing but damage control. Do you ever
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Speaker 1: think about that? Miss Kate's. Kate's has her own connections
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Speaker 1: to Epstein. As The Daily Beast previously reported, former employees
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Speaker 1: say the financier pedophile regularly dropped in on the agency's
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Speaker 1: New York offices, and tax filings show he donated tens
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Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars to charities connected to Kate's and
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Speaker 1: her family. At least two former Next models have been
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Speaker 1: romantically linked to Epstein, and a third appears in his
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Speaker 1: infamous address book. A spokesperson for Kate said neither she
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Speaker 1: nor the Next agency had any business or financial ties
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Speaker 1: to Epstein, and that Kate's never introduced the financier pedophile
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Speaker 1: to any models. That is such a lie. That is
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Speaker 1: such a lie. We read earlier that the employees said
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Speaker 1: something completely different, that there'd always be a girl waiting
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Speaker 1: for him there, that Brunell would send girls there to
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Speaker 1: be to wait for Epstein, therefore acting as a hub
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Speaker 1: for human trafficking. And this is what Steve Mnuchin's name's on,
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Speaker 1: this is what Steve Mnuchin was involved in. We gotta
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Speaker 1: do better, America. Come on, we have to do better.
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Speaker 1: And when I say we have to do better, believe me,
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Speaker 1: I don't mean Joe Biden either. Okay, we have to
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Speaker 1: do better selecting our candidates, selecting the people that are
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Speaker 1: going to govern us. Mnuchin has been friends with Kate's
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Speaker 1: for approximately thirty years, according to the Treasury Department official,
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Speaker 1: and once helped Kate set up a business as a friend. Boy,
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Speaker 1: that's nice. I wish I had some friends that would
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Speaker 1: come over and help me set up some businesses without
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Speaker 1: expecting anything. I'm sure that mister Mnuchin didn't expect anything
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Speaker 1: from Kate's if he was setting up the business for
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Speaker 1: he is just a friend. A spokesperson for Kate's confirmed
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Speaker 1: the two had been friendly for decades. She said Manuchin
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Speaker 1: had offered Kate's business advice when she started Next management
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Speaker 1: company and served as a real estate broker man Minuchin
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Speaker 1: is a man of many talents, real estate broker, treasure secretary,
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Speaker 1: hedge fund manager. Guy that signs for John Luke Brenell.
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Speaker 1: I guess he could add that to his resume as well.
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Speaker 1: Mnuchin spokesperson said the Secretary had no ownership in any
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Speaker 1: of Kate's businesses or serve them in any business capacity.
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Speaker 1: The records say differently, And if it's not the case,
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Speaker 1: then who's committing fraud by putting their name down there, sir.
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Speaker 1: The Daily Beast was unable to reach Jean luc or
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Speaker 1: are Not Brunell for comment. The ties between John Luke
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Speaker 1: Brunell and Epstein, however, have been widely reported. Flight records
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Speaker 1: show Brunell flew on the pedophile's private plane more than
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Speaker 1: twenty times between nineteen ninety nine and two thousand and five,
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Speaker 1: and how staff said in depositions that the modeling agent
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Speaker 1: was a regular presence at Epstein's Palm Beach estate. So,
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Speaker 1: just for context for a second, Brunell flew on the
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Speaker 1: plane twenty times between ninety nine and two thousand and five.
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Speaker 1: Good Old Bill my gumaud is Gilan Maxwell. He flew
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Speaker 1: on the plane at least twenty six times, according to reports.
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Speaker 1: So again, if you think this is just one side
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Speaker 1: of the if you think it's just the Republicans, or
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Speaker 1: you think it's just the Democrats, well you're wrong. When
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Speaker 1: Epstein was arrested in two thousand and eight, Brunell visited
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Speaker 1: him nearly seventy times in jail. I don't even think
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Speaker 1: I've had my friends come and visit me at my
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Speaker 1: house seventy times, never mind in jail. One of Epstein's
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Speaker 1: first public accusers, Virginia Roberts, claimed Epstein forced her to
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Speaker 1: sleep with Brunell and many other powerful men in the
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Speaker 1: years he kept her as his base as his prisoner.
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Speaker 1: She also accused Brunell of using his modeling industry connections
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Speaker 1: to supply Epstein and other wealthy men with foreign girls
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Speaker 1: to abuse. And we know for a fact that this
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Speaker 1: was occurring, not only the very credible statements of Virginia,
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Speaker 1: but we have all of the other corroborating evidence here
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Speaker 1: the employees, etc. Etc. I mean, the cops from Reno
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Speaker 1: nine to one point one could prosecute this kid. A
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Speaker 1: former bookkeeper for one of Brunell's agencies told the FBI
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Speaker 1: in twenty ten that Brunel used the company to bring
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Speaker 1: in teenage models from around the world and house them
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Speaker 1: in Epstein's Upper east Side apartments. The bookkeeper claimed the
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Speaker 1: girls were loaned out to wealthy clients for as much
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Speaker 1: as one hundred thousand dollars a night and were not
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Speaker 1: paid if they were refused to be molested. We talked
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Speaker 1: about that earlier and it just goes It just defies
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Speaker 1: reason that these disgusting ass so called members of polite
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Speaker 1: society are willing to pay one hundred thousand dollars a
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Speaker 1: night to abuse these girls. What in the f is
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Speaker 1: wrong with these people? I mean, are they all inbred
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Speaker 1: and suffering from some sort of mental deficiency. French authorities
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Speaker 1: are currently seeking Brunell as part of their probe into Epstein,
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Speaker 1: and recently interviewed two women who say they were victims
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Speaker 1: of the modeling agent in the late seventies and early eighties.
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Speaker 1: According to French newspaper Barryson, Brunell has denied all claims
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Speaker 1: of sexual misconduct, as well as any knowledge of Epstein's wrongdoings.
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Speaker 1: In legal filings, he said the former bookkeeper had been
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Speaker 1: fired from his agency for embezzling company funds. Yeah, It's
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Speaker 1: always the same story, right, Oh, this one's lying, that
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Speaker 1: one's lying. I'm the only one telling the truth. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: you're the biggest scumbag in the room, mister Brunel, and
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sun
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Speaker 1: was going to rise tomorrow. I strongly deny having participated
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Speaker 1: neither directly nor indirectly in the actions mister Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 1: is being accused of. Brunell said in twenty fifteen statement,
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Speaker 1: I strongly deny having committed any illicit or any wrongdoing
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Speaker 1: in the course of my work as a scouter or
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Speaker 1: a model agencies manager. Yes, okay, sure, right, Just like Baghdad,
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Speaker 1: Bob said that the American troops weren't on there. There
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Speaker 1: weren't in Baghdad, right during the Iraq in vision. That's
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Speaker 1: basically what you look like, mister Brunell. Oh yeah, nothing
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Speaker 1: to see here. Meanwhile, there's evidence that's mounted up, piled
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Speaker 1: high all around you, so high that you'll suffocate it
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Speaker 1: in it. If you walked into a room and you
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Speaker 1: mean to tell us that you had nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Epstein, Huh, You, of all people, had nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with Jeffrey Epstein, Well, sir, the evidence and
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Speaker 1: many many different girls and witnesses. They all say you're
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Speaker 1: a liar, and guess what, I believe them. If you'd
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Speaker 1: like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
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Speaker 1: Kapouchi at protonmeil dot com. That's Bobby underscore capu Cci
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Speaker 1: at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me on
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Speaker 1: Twitter at Bobby underscore cap u Cci. Hello everyone, and
18:50
Speaker 1: welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm your host, Bobby Kapuuci,
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Speaker 1: and this is a morning update. What's up everyone in
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Speaker 1: Green Sin City. So, Michael Wolfe has a new book
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Speaker 1: out and he has some pretty damning things to say
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Speaker 1: about everyone's favorite person, Donald Trump. Now again, Michael wolf
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Speaker 1: has been known to spin some tails. So if you
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Speaker 1: want to take it with a grain of salt, fine.
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Speaker 1: For those of you who don't want to take it
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Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, that's fine too. That's up
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Speaker 1: to you. So let's jump into this article from the
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Speaker 1: Daily Beast and let's just see what in the hell
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Speaker 1: is going on here. Author of this article, Lachlan Cartwright headline,
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein bragged Bill Barr was in charge, not Trump.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like everybody was in charge besides Trump.
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Speaker 1: According to the talking heads. Every time a new book
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Speaker 1: comes out, we have a new person who was running
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Speaker 1: things behind the scenes. So who was it? I'm confused.
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Speaker 1: Was it Bill Barr? Was it Jeff Sessions? Was it?
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Speaker 1: I don't you know. Everybody has a different story. Sorry
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Speaker 1: for us. One thing's pretty clear though. It was an
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Speaker 1: absolute shit show in the Trump administration. An absolute shit show.
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Speaker 1: So that's a fact. But all the other stuff, I mean,
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Speaker 1: who knows, who knows what's for real and what's not.
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Speaker 1: When it comes to this part of the story of
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Speaker 1: the world, Let's dive in and let's see what mister
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Speaker 1: Lachlan Cartwright has to say. A controversial new book from
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Speaker 1: journalist Michael Wolf claims that the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein bragged
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Speaker 1: that Bill Barr was the man in charge during Trump's
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Speaker 1: time in office, and that the president lets someone else
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Speaker 1: be in charge until other people realize that someone other
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Speaker 1: than him is in charge. When that happens, you're no
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Speaker 1: longer in charge. Is this an episode of the Three Stooges? What? Really?
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Speaker 1: This is the best we can do. At the top
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Speaker 1: of the ticket here in America, and everybody wonders why
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Speaker 1: shit's going say, everybody wonders why shelves are empty. And
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just Trump. By the way, Trump is a
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Speaker 1: symptom of the problem. Folks making him the problem, Well,
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Speaker 1: that makes people not understand what's really going on. Oh,
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Speaker 1: he's a big part of it, no doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: Everybody who's one of the so called elite is. But
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Speaker 1: this whole entire situation here, I mean, you're in charge,
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Speaker 1: then you're in charge. What is it like a game
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Speaker 1: of tag? If you get tagged last, then you're in
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Speaker 1: charge for the month. The tomb too famous, the rich,
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Speaker 1: the powerful, the wishful, the notorious, and the damned. Also
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Speaker 1: claims that Steve Bannon and former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud
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Speaker 1: Barack tried to help Epstein rehabilitate his image, even suggesting
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Speaker 1: that he tried to get favorable coverage on Rachel Maddow
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Speaker 1: or sixty Minutes. Now. Look, I am not the biggest
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Speaker 1: fan of Rachel Maddow. I call her the left's version
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Speaker 1: of Sean Hannity in fact, but I highly doubt that
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Speaker 1: he'd be going on to the Rachel Maddow show to
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Speaker 1: fix his image. As much as I don't agree with
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Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow with most things she says, I don't think
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Speaker 1: she's an evil person or a bad person, and I
22:19
Speaker 1: don't think she'd be helping Jeffrey Epstein refurbish his image. Now,
22:24
Speaker 1: the caveat to all of that is who the hell
22:27
Speaker 1: knows what MSNBC would be up to. But just because
22:31
Speaker 1: they suggested that they go on Rachel Maddow doesn't mean
22:35
Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow had anything to do with it. I've seen
22:37
Speaker 1: some people try and spin this into well, Rachel Maddow
22:41
Speaker 1: was going to help Epstein. Now that's really not what
22:44
Speaker 1: the book says or the article says. Now would I
22:47
Speaker 1: be shocked if that evidence was provided at some point? No,
22:51
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. Again, nothing shocks me with these people.
22:55
Speaker 1: After all we have seen, after all all we have
22:58
Speaker 1: experienced in the last three years and longer for some
23:02
Speaker 1: of you, How can anyone have any faith in anything
23:06
Speaker 1: at this point. That's why it's bizarre to me when
23:09
Speaker 1: I see people who are gung ho about this Epstein
23:12
Speaker 1: case and who have totally bought in on the fact
23:15
Speaker 1: that the FBI and the CIA were providing him cover
23:18
Speaker 1: out of the other side of their mouth. They talk
23:20
Speaker 1: about how the FBI is going to get this one
23:22
Speaker 1: or that one. I don't know how people come to
23:26
Speaker 1: terms with that and what it does. It really exposes
23:30
Speaker 1: a lot of people in their biases. You know, during
23:34
Speaker 1: the last administration, you had a lot of people running
23:36
Speaker 1: around pointing fingers, talking about this one's bias, that one's bias.
23:41
Speaker 1: But now we're really seeing who is biased, and it's
23:46
Speaker 1: pretty obvious. So all those people who are running around
23:50
Speaker 1: talking about, oh, everything, everything's falling apart, everything's in danger,
23:54
Speaker 1: and now they're quiet about it, Well, guess what. Things
23:57
Speaker 1: are still falling apart, and we're very close to really
24:02
Speaker 1: slipping into a place we don't want to go, according
24:11
Speaker 1: to Wolfe, who reportedly tried to buy New York magazine
24:14
Speaker 1: with Epstein and disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein, Barack asked
24:19
Speaker 1: Epstein the million dollar question of who was in charge
24:22
Speaker 1: at the White House. What I know. What I want
24:25
Speaker 1: to know from all from you, all knowing people, is
24:28
Speaker 1: who is in charge? Who is? Barack said, putting on
24:32
Speaker 1: an American accent over as often impenetrable Israeli one calling
24:36
Speaker 1: the shots. This was a resumption of the reliable conversation
24:40
Speaker 1: around Epstein the Vagaries of Donald Trump, once among Epstein's
24:45
Speaker 1: closest friends. Here is the question every government is asking.
24:50
Speaker 1: Trump is obviously not in charge because he is Huh,
24:56
Speaker 1: what does that even mean? So I guess Trump's down
25:00
Speaker 1: in charge because Barr is in charge. According to Wolf,
25:05
Speaker 1: I don't buy that. Okay, I don't believe that Bill
25:07
Speaker 1: Barr was in charge. Now do I believe that Bill
25:10
Speaker 1: Barr exerted a lot of influence over Trump as far
25:14
Speaker 1: as legal stuff goes, absolutely one. But this comment here
25:22
Speaker 1: that Barr was in control, I don't know if I
25:25
Speaker 1: buy that. Wolf claims that Epstein interrupted the former politico
25:31
Speaker 1: and called Trump his former playboy party pal, a moron.
25:36
Speaker 1: Then confided, at the moment Bill Barr is in charge,
25:39
Speaker 1: the pedophile financier continued, It's Donald's pattern. He lets someone
25:44
Speaker 1: else be in charge until other people realize that someone
25:47
Speaker 1: other than him is in charge. When that happens, you're
25:50
Speaker 1: no longer in charge. Barack allegedly pressed, but let me
25:54
Speaker 1: ask you, why do you think Bill Barr took this
25:56
Speaker 1: job knowing all this? The motivation is simple, money, Epstein replied,
26:02
Speaker 1: bar believes he'll get a big payday out of this
26:04
Speaker 1: if he keeps Donald in office, manages to hold the
26:07
Speaker 1: Justice Department together and help the Republican Party survive Donald.
26:11
Speaker 1: He thinks this is worth big money to him. I
26:14
Speaker 1: speak from direct knowledge, extremely direct trust me. Now, remember
26:18
Speaker 1: this is Epstein saying this, and we know that Epstein
26:21
Speaker 1: is not really a reliable narrator, right, So that's why
26:24
Speaker 1: I prefaced all of this with take it with a
26:27
Speaker 1: grain of salt. Michael Wolf has been known to make
26:30
Speaker 1: some pretty silly comments in the past, so I don't
26:35
Speaker 1: take everything he writes as one hundred percent truth. Everything
26:39
Speaker 1: is taken with a discerning eye. The book also claims
26:48
Speaker 1: that Epstein and Barack, along with Epstein's lawyer Reed Weingarten,
26:52
Speaker 1: called Steve Bannon, a new friend who had been introduced
26:55
Speaker 1: in December twenty seventeen, oh after Trump was elected huh interesting,
27:00
Speaker 1: and talked over a pr strategy with him to rehabilitate
27:03
Speaker 1: Epstein's image. After the damaging expose by the Miami Herald
27:08
Speaker 1: dredged up allegations that Epstein had molested and raped dozens
27:12
Speaker 1: of underage girls at his properties in Palm Beach, New York,
27:16
Speaker 1: and his private island in the Caribbean. Batan told The
27:20
Speaker 1: New York Times that he disputed wolf'sccount of the conversation
27:23
Speaker 1: and that he never media trained anyone. Okay, well, the
27:26
Speaker 1: Bannon disputes it. So again, you have two notorious liars here,
27:30
Speaker 1: Bannon and Wolf, and it's up to you, the fantastic listeners,
27:34
Speaker 1: to figure it out. You know me, I don't tell
27:37
Speaker 1: you folks what to think. I don't tell you folks
27:39
Speaker 1: what to do or how you should go about your lives.
27:42
Speaker 1: I'm here to narrate this story. I'm here to chronicle it,
27:45
Speaker 1: and if I have a few opinions that I want
27:47
Speaker 1: to slip in there about my personal views, that's what
27:50
Speaker 1: I'll do. But as far as telling anyone how they
27:53
Speaker 1: should think or what they should believe, certainly not going
27:56
Speaker 1: to happen on this podcast. Wolf claims that Bannon laughed
28:00
Speaker 1: at Epstein, you were the only person I was afraid
28:03
Speaker 1: of during the campaign, and that Epstein replied, as well,
28:06
Speaker 1: you should have been. The pair had deeply bonded. The
28:09
Speaker 1: book says, partly out of the shared incredulous incredulousness about
28:15
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Bannon was often astonished by what Epstein knew.
28:20
Speaker 1: Now again, it could be very possible. We know for
28:23
Speaker 1: a fact, and it's not disputable that Donald Trump and
28:27
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein palled around for a very long time in
28:31
Speaker 1: the nineties and the early two thousands. We know that,
28:35
Speaker 1: and anybody who tries to say differently is engaging in
28:38
Speaker 1: some gaslighting. Wolf paints Bannon as a man who was
28:49
Speaker 1: eager to advise Epstein on rehabbing his image, despite the
28:52
Speaker 1: many serious accusations against him that that he had serially,
28:57
Speaker 1: serially holy cow, serially prayed on the very young and
29:01
Speaker 1: vulnerable girls. So where is the Comm's piece in this?
29:05
Speaker 1: The book quotes Bannon is asking who's handling it, who's
29:08
Speaker 1: on point? Are these your people? Read? The book says
29:11
Speaker 1: Bannon pressed Winegarten, Epstein and Barack about why there was
29:15
Speaker 1: no communications team and asked what was the response from
29:19
Speaker 1: Jeffrey's side to the Florida story? Who engaged? He probably
29:23
Speaker 1: can't be hated anymore. We flatlined on this. He can't
29:27
Speaker 1: get debtor. While the chances of reviving him are remote,
29:30
Speaker 1: what's the alternative? So it just shows you the sick
29:33
Speaker 1: character of Steve Bannon as well. He's a sick, disgusting,
29:37
Speaker 1: decrepit ole bastard in my opinion, and he is a
29:42
Speaker 1: harmful human being. Now, I'm not going to sit here
29:46
Speaker 1: and say, oh, he should be silenced. I don't believe
29:49
Speaker 1: in that. As somebody who has been censored themselves, I
29:52
Speaker 1: don't believe in silencing people like him. What I believe
29:55
Speaker 1: in is challenging his ideas head on and shattering them
29:59
Speaker 1: with the actual And that's the way it's supposed to go.
30:04
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to censor people you don't agree with,
30:08
Speaker 1: or people who might have a different opinion than you.
30:11
Speaker 1: You destroy that opinion in the public square. And if
30:14
Speaker 1: you can't do it, get out of the way and
30:17
Speaker 1: let somebody who can do Wolfe says Winegarten then suggested
30:26
Speaker 1: trying to arrange an appearance on sixty Minutes or Gail King,
30:29
Speaker 1: to which Bannon dryly pointed out how well that had
30:32
Speaker 1: worked for singer R. Kelly. King's interview with Kelly was
30:36
Speaker 1: widely regarded as a disaster. Kelly later was convicted of
30:39
Speaker 1: sexual exploitation of children. Well, what do you know, every
30:43
Speaker 1: one of these guys that goes and gives an interview
30:45
Speaker 1: gets absolutely crushed. And you know why, well, because they're
30:49
Speaker 1: the lying. Okay, point blank period. If you're not telling
30:52
Speaker 1: the truth, well, not too hard to get crushed. Winegarton
30:59
Speaker 1: fumbled about, suggesting maybe an advocate or a surrogate could
31:02
Speaker 1: go on sixty minutes to plead Epstein's case. Dude, come on,
31:06
Speaker 1: Bannon allegedly replied, in exasperation, Well, Rachel Maddow. Then Winingarten replied,
31:12
Speaker 1: you're the Jeffrey surrogate sitting with Rachel Maddow, and she's
31:16
Speaker 1: going to say how many girls were there? Were theyre? Ten?
31:19
Speaker 1: Were there a one hundred? One thousand? Bannon continued, According
31:22
Speaker 1: to the book, now you're on national television, what do
31:25
Speaker 1: you say. I'm confident it's less than a thousand, was it,
31:29
Speaker 1: he asked Epstein? Yes, less, the multi millionaire said. The
31:33
Speaker 1: book then recounts a horrifying exchange between Bannon and Epstein. Actually,
31:39
Speaker 1: here is the first question, said Bannon, what's the age
31:42
Speaker 1: of the youngest girl? That would be good, said Epstein,
31:45
Speaker 1: because the answer to that question is that there was
31:47
Speaker 1: one girl who was fourteen years old, and she told police,
31:51
Speaker 1: she lied about her age. She told everyone she was
31:54
Speaker 1: eighteen because she was afraid she would never be allowed
31:56
Speaker 1: into the house and never be invited back. That's the
31:59
Speaker 1: only one. That's the only one who was under the
32:02
Speaker 1: age of eighteen. No, the youngest one. I mean really,
32:06
Speaker 1: and we know it's not fourteen. We know it's younger
32:08
Speaker 1: than that. Even the fact that Bannon was sitting here
32:11
Speaker 1: with him shouldn't shock anybody, but it is extra cringeworthy,
32:16
Speaker 1: extra cringeworthy considering what a scumbag Bannon is himself. Wolfe's
32:23
Speaker 1: book portrays Epstein in a circle of confidants as men
32:26
Speaker 1: who saw the outside world as a place increasingly hostile,
32:30
Speaker 1: not just to Epstein, the easy fall guy, but to
32:33
Speaker 1: themselves as well. Wingarten allegedly moaned that we are on
32:37
Speaker 1: the absolute other side of every cultural issue that has
32:40
Speaker 1: currency right now. Yeah, no shit, The tables have termed
32:44
Speaker 1: m effort, and your days are running the narrative with
32:48
Speaker 1: your powerful law firms are long over. So enjoy it.
32:54
Speaker 1: Enjoy the wave that you have all created, and when
32:58
Speaker 1: the tsunami comes pouring over, you don't come crying to us.
33:04
Speaker 1: In absolute juxtaposition to the view in the outside world,
33:07
Speaker 1: the view among Epstein's wide circle of loyal, devoted, and
33:11
Speaker 1: largely unquestioning friends, was that Epstein was guilty of only
33:15
Speaker 1: venal sins, that he had more than paid for them
33:19
Speaker 1: with his plea to prostitution in two thousand and eight,
33:22
Speaker 1: serving thirteen months in a Palm Beach jail, and that
33:26
Speaker 1: ever since, and with increasing zeal, he was being pursued
33:29
Speaker 1: by plaintiffs and their lawyers, all with clear financial interests,
33:33
Speaker 1: and a media that feeding off unchallenged and self serving allegations,
33:39
Speaker 1: had found a handy personification of evil wolf rites. No
33:42
Speaker 1: nobody had to find anything. It was right there, just
33:45
Speaker 1: to be exposed. And when it was exposed, everybody took note,
33:50
Speaker 1: and everybody, for the most part, is sickened by what happened. Barak,
33:57
Speaker 1: who Wolf calls a frequent guest, a normal fixture at
34:00
Speaker 1: Epstein's mansion where he suspected there were hidden cameras allegedly
34:04
Speaker 1: complained prostitution, it seems, is no longer called prostitution. It
34:09
Speaker 1: is something else, much worse. Underage prostitution is an oxy moron.
34:14
Speaker 1: Under American law, it is considered rape. So yeah, hued Breck,
34:19
Speaker 1: you're a sick fucking bastard too, Okay, you and your
34:23
Speaker 1: trips to the apartment building over on East sixty six.
34:27
Speaker 1: What you think we forgot about that? Oh you're on
34:29
Speaker 1: the ray at our Barack, believe it. Wolfe says Barack
34:34
Speaker 1: was part of a revolving door of friends, acquaintances, experts,
34:37
Speaker 1: visiting international dignitaries and despots, petitioners for contributions and investments, lawyers,
34:44
Speaker 1: and other holders of vast fortunes, a network of worldly
34:47
Speaker 1: influence and interest arguably as great as any in New
34:51
Speaker 1: York who sat at Epstein's dining conference table engaged in
34:56
Speaker 1: something that was part seminar, part gossip, part coffee clatch,
35:01
Speaker 1: and part elite conspiracy. Elsewhere, Wolf claims Barrock joked that
35:06
Speaker 1: we have nothing to worry about. The secrets are safe.
35:09
Speaker 1: Oh I bet they are. I bet they are at
35:12
Speaker 1: whud Barock, And I wonder what part you played and
35:15
Speaker 1: making sure they stayed that way. Epstein, whom Wolf characterizes
35:20
Speaker 1: as a germophobe who would not even shake hands with
35:23
Speaker 1: close friends, touching their elbows, instead, refused to take his
35:27
Speaker 1: predicament seriously and responded flippantly. Flippantly when talked of his
35:32
Speaker 1: crimes came up when Wingarten allegedly whined, every time I
35:36
Speaker 1: turn on the television and look for the Celtics score,
35:39
Speaker 1: I see that. My boy is a monster, everybody's favorite monster,
35:43
Speaker 1: the devil, pedophile, sex trafficker keeping little girls in the basement.
35:49
Speaker 1: Trump friend Epstein then joked that would be the worst. Wow.
35:55
Speaker 1: I mean, if this book is real and this stuff
35:58
Speaker 1: really happens, can you happen? Can you? Can you imagine
36:00
Speaker 1: what it must have been like to be a fly
36:02
Speaker 1: on the wall. Later, the pedophile asked what kind of
36:07
Speaker 1: cover do we get from Bob Kraft, the New England
36:10
Speaker 1: Patriots owner who had been arrested for allegedly patronizing a
36:13
Speaker 1: Palm Beach massage shop. You know, the whole thing that
36:16
Speaker 1: got dropped by the way Bob gets dinner. Bob gets
36:20
Speaker 1: dinner out, I get taken, said Epstein, with a flippancy
36:23
Speaker 1: that often exasperated the people trying to help defend him.
36:26
Speaker 1: So what he means by that is, you know, Bob
36:29
Speaker 1: Craft would go to these places to get his jolly's
36:32
Speaker 1: to go do whatever it is he was doing. But Epstein,
36:37
Speaker 1: I don't bother with that. I have these girls come
36:38
Speaker 1: to me. That's what he's saying there, And it's so
36:41
Speaker 1: gross when you think about it, with everything we know,
36:44
Speaker 1: so absolutely disgusting. Epstein's powerful circle saw him and a
36:50
Speaker 1: stute student of power and a collector of powerful friends
36:54
Speaker 1: as somehow particularly unsuited to this power game. Wolf writes
36:59
Speaker 1: too much, the free spirit, too much, the helpless bad
37:02
Speaker 1: boy two e list to properly protect himself, Epstein characterized
37:07
Speaker 1: his troubles as a chronic illness. It can't be cured,
37:11
Speaker 1: but it won't kill me. Months later, he was dead
37:14
Speaker 1: in a jail cell. So there you have it, folks,
37:17
Speaker 1: the book from Michael Wolf to talk about Donald Trump
37:21
Speaker 1: and Bill Barr actually being the one at the controls
37:25
Speaker 1: and all of the other juicy little tidbits that mister
37:29
Speaker 1: Wolf has for you. Personally, I know the whole entire
37:35
Speaker 1: thing was a shit show, and I know that none
37:37
Speaker 1: of these presidents are really running the show anyway, So
37:40
Speaker 1: that much smack's true to me. But I will leave
37:45
Speaker 1: it up to you, the listeners, to come up with
37:48
Speaker 1: your own decision and blow wherever you think the wind
37:53
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37:56
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38:19
Speaker 1: and we'll pick up where we left off. Have a
38:23
Speaker 1: great Saturday. Everyone doesn't come as a shock to me,
38:30
Speaker 1: and it shouldn't come as a shock to anybody else.
38:34
Speaker 1: That disgusting. Ask Steve Bannon would be working with Jeffrey
38:38
Speaker 1: Epstein in any capacity. So let's jump into this article
38:45
Speaker 1: from The Guardian real quick, and let's see what's going
38:48
Speaker 1: on with Steve Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein. Headline Steve Bannon
38:55
Speaker 1: prep Jeffrey Epstein for CBS interview. Michael wolf claims, Now,
39:00
Speaker 1: I'll caveat here. Michael Wolfe has played with the truth
39:04
Speaker 1: in the past, right, so take it for what it's worth. Obviously,
39:09
Speaker 1: I can't confirm any of this. I can't you know.
39:12
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. I don't have the sources he has
39:14
Speaker 1: or whatever that that he sat down with, So I
39:17
Speaker 1: can't you know, say to you, oh, yeah, this is
39:19
Speaker 1: one hundred percent factual. Has happened but this is what
39:23
Speaker 1: Michael Wolf is saying happened. And when it comes to
39:26
Speaker 1: somebody like Steve Bannon, I don't doubt it in the least.
39:30
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon doesn't give a fuck who you are. He's
39:34
Speaker 1: trying to fill his pockets with all of the gold
39:36
Speaker 1: he could possibly find, Pilford or not. And if that
39:40
Speaker 1: means working with a pedophile, a rapist, a disgusting fuck
39:45
Speaker 1: like Jeffrey Epstein, all you got to do is show
39:47
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon where to sign on the line. This article
39:53
Speaker 1: was authored by Martin Pengilely for The New York Times.
39:58
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein he gave a series of interviews on film
40:01
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen in which his interviewer said, the financier,
40:06
Speaker 1: convicted sex trafficker, pedophile was engaging, not threatening, and not
40:11
Speaker 1: at all creepy, a sympathetic figure breaking news. Okay, there
40:17
Speaker 1: is no kind of refurbish or polish that you can
40:22
Speaker 1: put on Jeffrey Epstein to not make him creepy, to
40:25
Speaker 1: not make him look like a disgusting individual. Okay, even
40:30
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, with all of his disgusting tricks, couldn't have
40:34
Speaker 1: pulled this off. The interviewer was the former Trump strategist
40:41
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon. The episode, as reported by The New York Times,
40:45
Speaker 1: is described in a book of profiles Too Famous, the Rich,
40:49
Speaker 1: the Powerful, the Wishful, the Notorious, the Damned, due out
40:54
Speaker 1: in October. The author is Michael Wolfe, who wrote Fire
40:58
Speaker 1: and Fury and two Other Experts is of Donald Trump's presidency.
41:02
Speaker 1: Now again, like I said, with Michael wolf he is
41:05
Speaker 1: a muckraker, right, Definitely one of those guys that likes
41:08
Speaker 1: to stir the pot, stir shit up. Some of his
41:11
Speaker 1: comments have been proven been proven false, but some of
41:16
Speaker 1: the other stuff he's talked about has been spot on.
41:20
Speaker 1: So again, when it comes to somebody like Michael wolf
41:24
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to make your own decisions on what
41:26
Speaker 1: you believe and what you don't believe. Some of the
41:29
Speaker 1: stuff he talks about is so bombastic that I have
41:32
Speaker 1: a hard time believing it without evidence. Right. Here's the thing,
41:36
Speaker 1: I'm at a point right now where whenever I see
41:39
Speaker 1: unnamed sources, I almost feel like the legacy media is
41:42
Speaker 1: almost making things up at that point, and then just
41:45
Speaker 1: protecting their misinformation by labeling it anonymous source you know,
41:51
Speaker 1: or source close to the incident that can't speak on it.
41:56
Speaker 1: So I'm so cynical when it comes to the legacy media.
41:59
Speaker 1: When I hear an anonymous source, I almost automatically think
42:03
Speaker 1: that the legacy media is making some shit up. The
42:08
Speaker 1: Times also reported that Bannon told Epstein to look directly
42:12
Speaker 1: into the camera now and then so as not to
42:14
Speaker 1: come across as stupid, and advised his subject not this
42:18
Speaker 1: year is racist theories on how black people learn. Oh,
42:21
Speaker 1: isn't that nice? Not only was he an absolute disgusting rapist,
42:26
Speaker 1: scumbag pedophile, he was also a disgusting rapist pedophile. I mean,
42:35
Speaker 1: we heard what Maria had to say about how these
42:38
Speaker 1: folk liked to talk about people of color, and it
42:43
Speaker 1: was absolutely disgusting. Then this is just more of a confirmation,
42:47
Speaker 1: you know, when I talk about all of those little
42:49
Speaker 1: gold nuggets we find in these articles, here's one right here,
42:54
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon talking about this goes and corroborates what Maria
42:58
Speaker 1: said previously. If you weren't paying attention to the case
43:01
Speaker 1: and you're not following it closely, you'll miss all of that.
43:07
Speaker 1: And a guy like Steve Bannon certainly knows who Jeffrey
43:11
Speaker 1: Epstein is certainly knows what Jeffrey Epstein is and knows
43:15
Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein is obviously a racist, so he's coaching
43:18
Speaker 1: him to avoid talking about that, not saying to him, look, dude,
43:22
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be a racist. He's sick. Fuck what he
43:24
Speaker 1: was wrong with you? No, he's coaching him how to
43:28
Speaker 1: avoid looking like one. And that's the big problem, isn't it.
43:32
Speaker 1: We have so many people who walk around with this
43:36
Speaker 1: false face on, and it's hard to, you know, disseminate
43:44
Speaker 1: who's who's. You really can't decide sometimes what's what and
43:47
Speaker 1: who's who. Because people are good, right, people are good
43:52
Speaker 1: at the hustle. They'll have you believe in that they
43:54
Speaker 1: care about the world. They'll have you believe in all
43:56
Speaker 1: kinds of crazy shit, and before you know it, you'll
43:59
Speaker 1: be putting hashtag insert dumbass politician's name into your social
44:04
Speaker 1: media profile and fighting with your friends about it. But
44:09
Speaker 1: in reality, that same person that acts like they care
44:12
Speaker 1: about you really fucking does not care about you. And
44:17
Speaker 1: those are just the facts. It doesn't matter which politician
44:20
Speaker 1: it is or which side of the aisle they're standing on. Mainly,
44:28
Speaker 1: mister Bannon tells mister Epstein he should stick to his message,
44:31
Speaker 1: which is that he is not a pedophile. By the end,
44:34
Speaker 1: mister Bannon seems impressed. Well, I don't see why you wouldn't.
44:38
Speaker 1: I mean, you have, uh, two people who are basically
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Speaker 1: demons walking the earth, right. I'm not a religious guy
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Speaker 1: or whatever, but I think that that's a good way
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Speaker 1: to explain these dudes, this whole entire circle. I mean,
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Speaker 1: each one of them scummier and shittier than the next.
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Speaker 1: It seems like the fact that Bannon sitting here coaching
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, it's just I can't even explain to you
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Speaker 1: how ridiculous it is. Two of the scummiest dudes in
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Speaker 1: the world sitting down, and Bannon's like, look, I'm a
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Speaker 1: little less scummy than you. At least I'm not accused
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Speaker 1: of raping kids and stuff, So I guess I can
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Speaker 1: coach you a little bit here. Huh. Maybe Leon Black
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Speaker 1: should have just called Steve Bannon and avoided getting the
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Speaker 1: advice from Jeffrey Epstein altogether, because obviously Steve Bannon's the
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Speaker 1: real guru. Right, you need your reputation repaired. Call in
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Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, a man of integrity, a pillar of the community,
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Speaker 1: said nobody ever, It is absolutely hilarious that Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 1: would think having Steve Bannon working with him is a
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Speaker 1: good idea. Reports that the interviews were preparation for an
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Speaker 1: interview with CBS sixty Minutes sixty Minutes, which never occurred.
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Speaker 1: Bannon confirmed to the Times that he taked more than
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Speaker 1: fifteen hours of interviews with Epstein, but said he was
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Speaker 1: not media training him, but rather making a previously unannounced
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Speaker 1: eight to ten hour documentary about Epstein's perversions and depravity
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Speaker 1: towards young women and links to the global establishment. Oh,
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Speaker 1: is that what it was, Steve Bannon? You were making
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Speaker 1: a documentary about Jeffrey Epstein? Is it? I mean, does
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Speaker 1: anybody believe a guy like Steve Bannon at this point?
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Speaker 1: Anybody out there believe anything he has to say? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I certainly don't. The guy's a straight up fool. Earlier
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Speaker 1: this year, Ira Rose, in a veteran Sixty Minutes producer,
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Speaker 1: discussed how he set up one of the all time
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Speaker 1: great sixty Minutes interviews with Bannon himself. Bannon, he said,
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Speaker 1: told him he believed Trump had early stage dementia and
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Speaker 1: Mike be removed from office. That claim did not make
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Speaker 1: the final tape. Yo, what's with all right, let's just
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Speaker 1: get to it right right away and be right up
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Speaker 1: front with it. What's with electing these old ass dudes
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Speaker 1: all the time? We ain't got somebody a little bit
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Speaker 1: younger who has you know, their faculties about them. It's
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Speaker 1: quite obvious that Uncle Junior Soprano aka Joe Biden has
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Speaker 1: no idea where he is anytime he gets on a stage, right,
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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him to yell at one of the
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Speaker 1: reporters and call them pussy malanga before he goes running
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Speaker 1: off of the stage. I mean, are you guys kidding me?
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Speaker 1: Right now? With these old ass dudes? There's three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty billion thousand people that are available for American idol,
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Speaker 1: and these old ass dementia ridden people are the only
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Speaker 1: ones that we have to choose from for president. That
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem wrong to anybody else. Maybe I'm maybe I'm
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Speaker 1: the one who's fucked up right. Maybe I'm the one
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Speaker 1: who is misinterpreting the world and everything's fantastic with these
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Speaker 1: old guys. As president asked by Yahoo Knews, how seriously
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Speaker 1: people should take Bannon's claims. Rosen said the trick in
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Speaker 1: trying to deal with Steve was to work out how
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Speaker 1: much was meant simply to draw attention to himself. And
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of bombastic people like that, right, and
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Speaker 1: most of them find themselves somehow ironically and Trump's circle,
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Speaker 1: don't they pretty weird how that happens. Epstein was convicted
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight of soliciting sex from underage girls.
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Speaker 1: He killed himself allegedly in custody in August of twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 1: awaiting trial on new sex trafficking charges. His former girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: co conspirator, fellow child abuser, general all around scusbag and
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Speaker 1: bipudal serpent, Gilan Maxwell awaits charges in New York on
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Speaker 1: sex trafficking charges. Waits trial in New York Excuse me
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Speaker 1: on sex trafficking charges. She is pleaded not guilty. Last week,
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew was served with an affid David in a
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Speaker 1: lawsuit brought by Epstein's survivor, Virginia Roberts, who says she
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Speaker 1: was forced to have sex with him when she was seventeen,
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Speaker 1: an allegation the Prince absolutely and categorically denies, well we're
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Speaker 1: gonna see what's what soon with that, right, that phone
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Speaker 1: call with the judge presiding over the Virginia Roberts suit,
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Speaker 1: that's going to happen today, So obviously we're going to
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Speaker 1: have another talk about that later on after that all
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Speaker 1: occurs and we get to hear a little bit about
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Speaker 1: what happened, we'll definitely recount that. But that's happening later
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Speaker 1: on today, a couple hours from now, a few hours
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Speaker 1: from now. Bannon, a hard right political gadfly who chaired
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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen, was a major source
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Speaker 1: for Fire and Fury, Wolfe's huge bestseller about the first
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Speaker 1: year of the Trump presidency. So there's no doubt that
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Speaker 1: Steve Bannon is a me man. He doesn't have loyalty
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Speaker 1: to Trump, or to party, or to country, or to
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Speaker 1: anybody but himself and his bank account. And one of
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Speaker 1: his favorite things to do is try and manipulate people, right,
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Speaker 1: try and get people all fired up, try to get
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Speaker 1: people foaming at the mouth, try to create a boogeyman.
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Speaker 1: And it's something that both sides love to do, right.
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Speaker 1: They have to have a boogeyman or none of their
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Speaker 1: bullshit divisiveness works. Baden left the White House in August
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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen amid uproar over a neo Nazi march in Charlottesville, Virginia,
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Speaker 1: but he remained a key figure in the Trump world
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Speaker 1: and an influence on Wolf's next two books, Siege and Landslide.
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Speaker 1: Trump pardoned Bannon on charges of fraud. Of course he did.
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Speaker 1: All of these presidents are going to do that same
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Speaker 1: exact thing, make sure their buddies are taken care of
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Speaker 1: when the time's right. Take a look at how many
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Speaker 1: people Bill Clinton pardoned. Just another one of these so
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Speaker 1: called traditions that we should all just accept. Here's an
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Speaker 1: idea you should They should have to pardon people who
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Speaker 1: are serving sentences on low level drug offenses, possession and
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Speaker 1: shit like that. Instead, they'll pardon all of their political buddies. Right.
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Speaker 1: But you're the one who's crazy if you take a
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Speaker 1: look at it and you call it for what it is,
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Speaker 1: you're the one who's engaging in the ultimate act of
51:34
Speaker 1: rebellion by asking questions. These days, well, let me tell you, folks,
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Speaker 1: keep asking those questions. The Times reported that Wolf also
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Speaker 1: recounts an offer from the film producer Harvey Weinstein may
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Speaker 1: during his rape trial, in which he was convicted last year,
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Speaker 1: to co write an autobiography. Wolf also told the paper
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Speaker 1: Epstein wanted me to write something about him, a kind
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Speaker 1: of book, though it wasn't clear why. Well, alrighty then,
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Speaker 1: so according to Wolf, this is what went down. And
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Speaker 1: again I can't confirm or deny any of that stuff.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, right, I don't have access to Steve
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Speaker 1: Bannon or any of these people. I'm not a journalist,
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Speaker 1: like I always tell you, I just commentate on what
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Speaker 1: these knuckleheads are up to. And when it comes to
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Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, one thing I know for sure is he
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Speaker 1: is one of the most self serving me first mfs
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Speaker 1: in the whole entire world. And any kind of press
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Speaker 1: for Steve Bannon is good press. So again, you never
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Speaker 1: know with somebody like this when it comes to what
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Speaker 1: they're up to. Right when you're looking at it from
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Speaker 1: a strategy point of view, a guy like Steve Bannon
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Speaker 1: is very, very shifty, hard to pin down. You don't
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Speaker 1: know what he's going to be doing next. But one
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Speaker 1: thing is certainly clear. Steve Bannon is a fellow traveler.
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