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The Bolt Report | 17 August · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Is the report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight should you be allowed to use your supit of
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  Speaker 2: our house? Paul in hands and causes a labor meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Plus Anthony Abnezi's latest lass exposed by the woman who
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  Speaker 2: embarrassed him on her podcast and the woman who he
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  Speaker 2: won't want to meet now the world leader. In December's
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  Speaker 2: G twenty meeting, Donald Trump praises yet another dictator and
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  Speaker 2: orders US forces to cut back war exercises that make
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  Speaker 2: that poor little dictator look bad. And how the logans
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  Speaker 2: tell us conservatives they are not welcome. But first two
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  Speaker 2: stories today gave us two sides of the same threat.
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  Speaker 2: First time was this the growing fears of the Royal
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  Speaker 2: Commission into Anti Semitism is not a forensic inquiry, tokenistic
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  Speaker 2: something unlikely to deliver solutions to the anti Semitism crisis. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I warned about that just from the start, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I've got even more skeptical since, I mean, just
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  Speaker 2: four months ago, and this Royal Commission still has not
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  Speaker 2: investigated the role of Islam, the role of immigration in
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  Speaker 2: feeding this deadly due hatred. Here it is not grilled
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  Speaker 2: a single government minister for what they did or failed
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  Speaker 2: to do, as the hatred built up to an explosion,
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  Speaker 2: which brings me to the other article. That's the point
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  Speaker 2: of the other report that the Albertiza government's gun laws
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  Speaker 2: have failed, that New South Wales is the only state
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  Speaker 2: to adopt Anthony albanize Is gun buy back, and I've
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  Speaker 2: got to say no wonder And once again this is
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  Speaker 2: looking at the guns, not of the people pulling the trigger,
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  Speaker 2: and many of them imported albany is his gun laws
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  Speaker 2: essentially the incident to make our prime minister look like
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  Speaker 2: it was doing something anything after the Bondai Massaca Redeus
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  Speaker 2: allegedly by Islam's gunman, including a Muslim from India. So
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  Speaker 2: Albnizi's useless plan, purely performative, was to ban people from
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  Speaker 2: owning more than four guns, as if the Bondai gunman
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't then have killed jus a Bondai if they only
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  Speaker 2: had four guns. Oh no, we can't do it, we
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  Speaker 2: need six. Now. The failure there was that they had
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  Speaker 2: even one. They weren't checked properly. But the worst of
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  Speaker 2: this is that these gun laws are really to distract you.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, hey, look at those wicked gun laws over there.
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  Speaker 2: All these guns, all these guns, guns let's get them.
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  Speaker 2: Don't look at the gunmen. Most certainly, don't look at
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  Speaker 2: the politicians who let those families in. All of which
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  Speaker 2: brings me to news last night which, if you sought
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  Speaker 2: you might have thought, well, this might not have figured
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  Speaker 2: this was related to all of this. It's news that
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  Speaker 2: highlights the real problem in Melbourne crime. Family figure head
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  Speaker 2: of the family, Fadi Hadara, born in Lebanon to a
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  Speaker 2: Sunimusim family, was shot several times outside his homes, now
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  Speaker 2: in a critical condition in hospital. Police worry that the
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  Speaker 2: gunman that shot him was hired by the gang led
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  Speaker 2: by Iraqi born cousin Hammad, now back in Iraq and
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  Speaker 2: in jail there now. These two gangs have been at
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  Speaker 2: war in Melbourne to control the illegal tobacco trade. Not
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  Speaker 2: just there, by the way, they've been talking dozens and
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  Speaker 2: dozens and dozens of shops and staging multiple shootings as
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  Speaker 2: then what difference would the gun laws make here or
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  Speaker 2: the other men who shot Hadara last night or killed
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  Speaker 2: his brother seven years ago? Do they need more than
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  Speaker 2: even one or two guns to do this? Or even
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  Speaker 2: turn helped turn Melbourne into a battlefield. All these shooting
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  Speaker 2: up of nightclubs and restaurants we've seen, including four shootings
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  Speaker 2: in just one week in July. If you think I'm
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  Speaker 2: cherry picking here drawing a long bow, note that police
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  Speaker 2: believe two thirds of the Underworld linked homicides in Melbourne
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  Speaker 2: over the past decade have been connected to Middle Eastern
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  Speaker 2: organized crime imported crime. Two thirds in Sydney, much the
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  Speaker 2: same story. There, we've seen a gun war between mostly
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  Speaker 2: Middle Eastern crime gangs that have killed most of the
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  Speaker 2: more than twenty people shot dead in targeted shootings between
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty twenty three. They're the red dots
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  Speaker 2: on this map, blue dots of where others targets survived.
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  Speaker 2: Would you believe that is a war between two families
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  Speaker 2: also originally from Lebanon. Now I know this doesn't apply
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  Speaker 2: to most Middle Eastern immigrants, but sometimes it is like
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  Speaker 2: we have imported not just people, but a culture, and
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  Speaker 2: some streets of our cities, as a consequence, are now
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  Speaker 2: as dangerous as Beirut. You just look at the names
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  Speaker 2: of the Sydney gangland figure shot dead since twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to show them all, haven't got time,
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  Speaker 2: but check one common factor since the murder of Wailid
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  Speaker 2: we had nine years ago. They've been Hammad Asad and
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  Speaker 2: Safwan Chabaji, followed by Kemel Barakat. We've told the killings,
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  Speaker 2: some implicated the Almadin crime gang, then kicked up three
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  Speaker 2: years later with the murder of Majid Hamsi and the
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  Speaker 2: eighteen dead gangland figures since, including Tahar Sabah who was
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  Speaker 2: shot dead in front of his young son. One gun
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  Speaker 2: was enough there as well? Who let these families in,
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  Speaker 2: Because it's not just the hate preachers who let them
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  Speaker 2: in as well, like Wissem Hadad, son of Lebanese parents.
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  Speaker 3: If you attack a law, if you attack our prophet,
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  Speaker 3: our religion, and our fellow brothers and sisters, and if
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  Speaker 3: you attack our lands, then you are going to be
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  Speaker 3: met with men who love death more than you love life.
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  Speaker 2: We made a demographic mistake and they're the hardest to fix.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen to that. I mean it's charming. And
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  Speaker 2: tell me again how diversity makes Australia stronger. I'm all is,
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  Speaker 2: And tell me how taking guns off farmers now makes
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  Speaker 2: us safer against people with an US against them mentality,
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  Speaker 2: including the few who think that Allah obliges them to
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  Speaker 2: kill Jews. No, the government's gun laws. They're just a
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  Speaker 2: terrible distraction. The Royal Commission too seems distracted. Why is
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  Speaker 2: immigration not on their agenda? Why is the performance of
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  Speaker 2: the labor ministers not on scrutiny too? If the rise
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  Speaker 2: in due hatred is the issue, I'll give you just
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  Speaker 2: one fresh example about the government's role. The government has
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  Speaker 2: refused visus the two Israeli politicians, or we can't they
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  Speaker 2: can't even have the Israeli justice miths. Oh, they're just
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  Speaker 2: gonna raise tensions here extreme But the same governors all
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  Speaker 2: this alleged American comedian start a tour here next month,
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  Speaker 2: despite preaching inflammatory hydrid of Israel and conspiracy theories of
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  Speaker 2: the kind that anti Semits have used, like even oh,
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  Speaker 2: the Bondai mascer of Jews actually a false flag operation,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but Jews shooting Jews.
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  Speaker 4: And of course we have the bon Dai, the Bondai attack.
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  Speaker 4: I think I give pictures to one of your producers,
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  Speaker 4: like Arson Ostrowsky, who's like one of those trolls on Twitter.
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  Speaker 4: He happened to be on October seventh as vive October seventh,
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  Speaker 4: and then he posts his picture as selfie while he's
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  Speaker 4: on the floor and he has blood all over him.
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  Speaker 2: Yet that's the picture, okay, which is always looks fake.
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  Speaker 4: How can you believe a country that lies twenty four
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  Speaker 4: to seven like this? Israel doesn't just lie to hide
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  Speaker 4: the truth. They lie recreationally. They just do because it's
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  Speaker 4: fun for them.
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  Speaker 2: The Almenizi governors let that poisonous man into the country
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  Speaker 2: to spread the word from one end to the other.
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  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, the ABC has invited Hassan Piker, another American
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  Speaker 2: hate preacher, secular hate preacher, to come on its Planet
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  Speaker 2: America show. This is a viciously anti Israel bigot who
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  Speaker 2: defends is them as terrorists, defends excuses violence against the US,
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  Speaker 2: and advocates the murder of capitalists.
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  Speaker 5: Why I would vote for Hamas over Israel every single time.
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  Speaker 3: America deserved nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 6: Dude, I'm saying, murder those in the street, Let the streets,
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  Speaker 6: Let the streets soak in the red capitalist bloods.
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  Speaker 2: Are you surprised the way the ABC has been lately
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  Speaker 2: that that is going to be an ABC guest? He
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  Speaker 2: was already on the ABC last year as well. What
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  Speaker 2: on earth is our ABC up to stoking hatred like that,
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  Speaker 2: with people like that giving them a platform. Now, all
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  Speaker 2: this stuff that should be front and center for the
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  Speaker 2: government and for the Royal Commission if we're serious about
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  Speaker 2: fighting due hatred, not gun laws, but immigration incitement, government
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  Speaker 2: policies and the promotion of hatred by the National Broadcaster.
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  Speaker 2: Or last Thursday that the anti Pauline handsOn protests that day,
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  Speaker 2: they were not just oh the school children, they just
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  Speaker 2: mean well getting engaged with politics so nice. They were ugly,
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  Speaker 2: they were vicious, they were intolerant, with threats to execute,
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  Speaker 2: kill and spit on the One Nation leader. There was
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  Speaker 2: just so much hate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm at the student's protest against Pauline Hanson.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear what they have to say. What would you?
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  Speaker 7: It really hads me today, I'm not I would.
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  Speaker 2: Now there guy doing the filming, there was a fifteen
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  Speaker 2: year old One Nation volunteer. But there you go. The
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  Speaker 2: very next day, a sixty three year old woman who
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  Speaker 2: works for One Nation at head office. She was attacked
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  Speaker 2: when she went to the Echo show in Brisbane. She
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  Speaker 2: was wearing One Nation gear and now I can't give
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  Speaker 2: her name. She's been so traumatized and is so scared.
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  Speaker 2: It's even doubts she'll ever come back again to work.
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  Speaker 2: Three young women and she thinks in the late teens,
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  Speaker 2: no older than twenty one, abused her and one spat
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  Speaker 2: on her. Then a young man same age grabbed this
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  Speaker 2: woman by the wrist, spun her around and punched her,
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  Speaker 2: punched her so hard, brokenly, spun of her ribs. Sixty
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  Speaker 2: three year old woman. No, I'll tell you if if
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  Speaker 2: this is an happen to a labor official, this will
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  Speaker 2: be all over the news, the ABC will be all
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  Speaker 2: over it. But abuse of and violence against one nation
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  Speaker 2: that's been so normalized, one nation has been so demonized
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  Speaker 2: that this is so far a tiny story or mostly
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  Speaker 2: ignored until Fortitude Valley Police are investigating. They say a
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  Speaker 2: formal complaint has not yet been lodged, but they're aware
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  Speaker 2: of this and they are not going to give out
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  Speaker 2: any other information. But like I said last week about
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  Speaker 2: the students, you know, when you see this sort of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: when you see that hate, when you see the International
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  Speaker 2: or you know, socialist socialist Alternative movement getting involved, you
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  Speaker 2: know that the danger to our future is not handsome.
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  Speaker 2: It is her haters, like some of the people that
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  Speaker 2: were demonstrating against her. Joining me is the political panel
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  Speaker 2: Michael Kroger from a Victorian Liberal president, and Holly Hughes,
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  Speaker 2: former Liberal senator. Now with One Nation. Holly, what does
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  Speaker 2: this alleged assault tell you.
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  Speaker 8: It's actually incredibly frane, and I think it's disgraceful that
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  Speaker 8: this level of hatred is allowed to fester. And you know,
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  Speaker 8: I'll say there are premiers and prime ministers here who
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  Speaker 8: will potentially have blood on their hands at some stage
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  Speaker 8: because of their complete refusal to take any action when
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  Speaker 8: it comes to these kind of threats. Paul Aine is
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  Speaker 8: subjected to them consistently. We see the demonization of Janet
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  Speaker 8: Ryan Hart. The level of hatred that is allowed to
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  Speaker 8: be continuing on is unhinged. But now that it is
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  Speaker 8: escalating into acts of violence, now is the time that
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  Speaker 8: the political class needs to stand up and say this
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  Speaker 8: kind of behavior is unacceptable, not like they did when
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  Speaker 8: you know, they had the believe all women except conservative women,
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  Speaker 8: because they deserve it. It can't be defend all politicians except
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  Speaker 8: for one nation, because if anyone attacks them, they deserve it.
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  Speaker 8: And unfortunately that seems to be the prevailing attitude of
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  Speaker 8: some in government at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Seems to be Michael. Here I've given some examples. It's
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  Speaker 2: not just finance against Jews, or that they have suffered
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  Speaker 2: grievously maybe the worst, but the general culture of violence,
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  Speaker 2: the blind blind eye to violence if it's at the
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  Speaker 2: right targets, the incitement of violence, the ABC platforming people
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  Speaker 2: of violence. There is something really freaky going on with
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  Speaker 2: this country.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's not only here, maw It's in America too,
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  Speaker 5: It's in Britain too, it's in other Western countries. The
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  Speaker 5: socialists and to the left of the socialists are so
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  Speaker 5: hell bent on destroying democracies and Western civilization and Western culture.
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  Speaker 5: They go to and promote and incite these extreme acts.
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  Speaker 5: And you would not be wrong to conclude, perhaps that
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  Speaker 5: acts of violence against people will come out are incited
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  Speaker 5: by demonstrations like this. But where was the ministers. Where
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  Speaker 5: are the ministers saying to their government schools, to the headmasters,
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  Speaker 5: do not permit kids to leave school to go on
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  Speaker 5: these hate field demonstrations. Where are the teachers, Where are
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  Speaker 5: the parents, Where are the parents associations? What to allow
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  Speaker 5: all these kids to go along? And then, of course,
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  Speaker 5: in some cases their lives are going to be ruined
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  Speaker 5: because they've been stupid enough and incited enough and angry
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  Speaker 5: enough to give interviews saying kill Hansen. Well, that'll read
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  Speaker 5: well in a job application in due course, Andrews. So
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  Speaker 5: some of the lives of these kids are going to
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  Speaker 5: be ruined because they're attending these demonstrations, all incited by
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  Speaker 5: these socialists left which are now predominant here and in
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  Speaker 5: other Western countries.
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  Speaker 2: To some politics today, the government's new housing taxes in
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  Speaker 2: the main budget that seems of backfired badly. Housing prices
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  Speaker 2: are dropping fast, Bureau Statistics saying there was a three
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  Speaker 2: percent fall in the following three months in the number
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  Speaker 2: of first home bars, which is the budget was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to help taking out a mortgage three percent fall, with
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  Speaker 2: the National Australia Bank warning of worst case to come.
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  Speaker 2: But the housing is that they refuse to admit a
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  Speaker 2: mistake and preferred to retail happy Anito she allegedly read
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  Speaker 2: to the hard stats.
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  Speaker 9: We all read the newspapers of a Sunday morning, and
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  Speaker 9: for the first time in my life, they are peppered
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  Speaker 9: with article after article about first time buyers around the
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  Speaker 9: country who are going to auctions and winnings.
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  Speaker 2: Now the government doesn't see it to have a clue.
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  Speaker 2: It was happily today attacking Holly, the Pauline Hanson who
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  Speaker 2: yesterday said let's let people use their super to buy
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  Speaker 2: a home, or she even said maybe even help with
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  Speaker 2: the cost of living. The Coalition says, let people use
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  Speaker 2: their super to buy home. It's their money. What do
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you make of all this? I mean, that's the point.
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  Speaker 8: It is our money that we pump into superannuation and
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  Speaker 8: the surest indicator of a safe and secure retirement, particularly
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  Speaker 8: for women that are widow told of WARS, is owning
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  Speaker 8: your own home and if you're able to do that
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  Speaker 8: through acting super accessing superannuation, you should absolutely be allowed
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  Speaker 8: to do that. The Unions don't want it to happen.
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  Speaker 8: The Labor Government doesn't want it to happen because they're
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  Speaker 8: all using those incredible trillions of dollars to pump up
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  Speaker 8: their own industry funds and everything about the donations around
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  Speaker 8: the unions and the Labor Party it stinks to high heaven.
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely should be able to access this super. Having the
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  Speaker 8: security of owning your own home as you went to
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  Speaker 8: retirement is absolutely what we want to see for Australians
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  Speaker 8: and the reality is even since the introduction of superannuation,
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  Speaker 8: the number of Australians who require a government funded pension
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  Speaker 8: has barely moved. So superannuation in many ways has abjectively
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  Speaker 8: failed and Australians should be able to use their own money.
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  Speaker 2: But Michael, I think this is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: big issue in the election. The Prime Minister certainly wanted
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  Speaker 2: to make it so. He was one of many Labor
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  Speaker 2: politicians of Parliament today he is.
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  Speaker 10: We know that it is at risk because the Liberals,
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  Speaker 10: the Nationals and One Nation or want to decimate universal super.
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  Speaker 10: Not only did they want to drag a Straange back
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  Speaker 10: to the past, they want to damage their future as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually true, Michael, obviously that if you let people
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  Speaker 2: by use the super to bay House, that could actually
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  Speaker 2: be better off long term with that sort of investment.
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  Speaker 2: Although the last time, you know, during the COVID crisis
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  Speaker 2: that people are allowed to do it, let's take some
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  Speaker 2: money out of their super to get them by gambling.
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  Speaker 2: Money spent on gambling rose straight after. What do you
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  Speaker 2: make of the idea?
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  Speaker 5: It did because of the of the psychological crisis that
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: COVID brought around as well. Look Andrew Albaneze simply says, oh,
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  Speaker 5: the Coalition and One Nation want to decimate the super scheme.
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  Speaker 5: What by giving people back their own money, access to
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  Speaker 5: their own money. This guy is delusional. He's totally delusional.
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  Speaker 5: And look Andrew, back on the housing market. Did you
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  Speaker 5: see on budget night Jim Charmers say our tax change
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  Speaker 5: is to negative gearing. Are going to result in the
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  Speaker 5: following hundreds of billions of dollars wiped off the value
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  Speaker 5: of property. Auction clearance rates plummeting five percent, deposit buyers
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  Speaker 5: having been wiped out of their five percent equity, mortgage
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  Speaker 5: loan applications plummeting first home buyer applications, plummeting developers and
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: investors withdrawing from the market. And now one of the
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  Speaker 5: banks saying tonight rents are about derivese thirty percent. Well,
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  Speaker 5: you know what happens, Andrew. We are headed towards an
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  Speaker 5: economic crisis in this country because people, when they're feeling poored,
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: they stop spending. Jbhifi down twelve percent today because retail sales,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: retail sales are falling. Stamp duties are going to collapse,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: all right, receipts for stamp duties when you don't have
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: selling propit buying properties, you don't pay stamp duty. Their
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: receipts are going to plummet. This government has no idea
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  Speaker 5: what they're doing. If any of this was predictable, you
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  Speaker 5: ever miss out to the government, and the government would
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  Speaker 5: have said it on a budget night, Charles would have said,
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  Speaker 5: this is all going to happen. But you know it's
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  Speaker 5: all okay. He had no idea. They have no idea
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  Speaker 5: what they're doing. And that's the problem. You'll let people.
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  Speaker 2: Again and you and you ignored, you overlooked the fact
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  Speaker 2: that rents have also sowed, rents have also saw so
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  Speaker 2: this really hitting the poor going up. Well, Holly, I'm
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  Speaker 2: running out of time, but I've got to show you this.
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  Speaker 2: Nikki Osborne, she's come back for a second. Ago, the
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Prome minter says she hit him with the truck and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: now I was reversing back over she got him. On
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: a Deep Bush Deep podcast, of course, Drinky Whiskey saying
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you'd like to shag Carlie Minogue making fun of the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Japanese Prome minister's melons after she gave him mine. As
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  Speaker 2: a president, how is he claiming on Friday it was
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: ambushed not this by her question on who he'd like
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  Speaker 2: to shag here is Ki.
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  Speaker 11: Osborne said that she does shag Mary Kill with every guest.
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  Speaker 11: Did you and your office know that the question was coming?
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  Speaker 2: Voss rely on you the truth absolutely, So just.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: To be clear, those questions weren't pre loaded.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't know.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't have any advanced morning.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: No, but Osborne said no. Albaniz he knew all about
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the show and agreed like a shot to come on issues.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: And I went, oh, the Prime Minister follows me, okay,
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: which was quite the shock. And then I'm like, bugger it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: I'm going to DM the PM and invite him on
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: my m them and I did, and he got back
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: to me straight away. I went, sure, sounds like a
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: lot of fun. He's watched the show, he knows my podcast,
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: so he knew what he was coming into.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Holy amount of time. But I've got to quickly get
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a reaction from you.
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: Then I just reiterate there's a campaign called fire the Liar,
• 20:49
  Speaker 8: and if you don't get motivated to donate more. Now,
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: this guy is an absolute flog. He's a total liar.
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: The fact that he just consistently he actually looked dreadful
• 21:01
  Speaker 8: in that press conference he was doing so maybe the
• 21:05
  Speaker 8: pressure is getting to him. But you don't fire the liar,
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: donate money. Let's get rid of this idiot.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: It's a weird thing. It's got time in his hands
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: if he follows a podcast anyway. Michael Kroger Holi hughes,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: thank you very much to you both. Ah, dearie me,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: that's just so terrible. Anthony Albinezzi, though, has been so
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: embarrassed by being filmed joking about the Japanese Prime minister's
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: melons with the gropy hands. You know there is now
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: one overs this trip. I am sure he's planned it
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: that it's become a landmine. He'd be worried because in
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: December Albanies is going to fly to a meeting of
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the G twenty economies and also there will be Italy's
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister, Georgia Maloney. Maloney is Italian for melons, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Maloney hasn't minded making that joke of that herself. Albany's
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: praying hard she doesn't do it with him. Still, if
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: there's a leader, world leader who appreciates a good melon joke,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I guess it is Elbow. After the break, Donald Trump
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: sucks up to North Korea's dictator with a massive insult
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: of South Korea. What is going on with this man?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's liking for dictators. It was already disturbing enough.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: You know how soft he was with Russian Walker and
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: l Vladimir Putin, how generous he was about serious new
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: leader of former al Kaeda terrorists. But now it's really
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: gone rogue, sucking up to murderous North Korean dictator Kim
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Jong un, even at the cost of weakening ties with
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  Speaker 2: the government democratic South Korea. See the US of South
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Korea were due to day to start joint military exercises
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: in case of an attack by North Korea, maybe even
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: more with China. But Trump has posted this based on
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a very good relationship with King Jong Un Kim Jong
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Un of North Korea. I am not happy with the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: fact that the United States as long ago agreed to
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: participate in joint military exercises with South Korea. These exercises
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: are not any costly, but much of these cost paid
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: for by the United States of America as usual. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: send a signal that is totally inappropriate and hostile to
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: a country that as long as Donald J. Trump has
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: been present, has been unthreatening and respectful. Therefore, and based
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: on the fact that it's too late to cancel, I
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: have instructed Secretary Reward Pete Exsith to substantially reduce the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: joint military exercises. Honestly, North Korea unthreatening. It's just been
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: sending missiles and even its own soldiers to help Russia
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: attack Ukraine. Joining me is the country's sop. Foreign affairs
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: writer Greg Sheridan of The Australian, Greg, this sounds to
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: me quite shocking and even dangerous. What do you make
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: of it?
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  Speaker 6: Well, Andrew, it's very good to be with you, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: I must say I completely agree with you on this.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: I think this is one of the most bizarre things
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: has ever said. You know, people who think Trump never
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: does anything wrong think that the weird, amazing, strange things
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: he says are negotiating tactics. But for that to be true,
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: somebody has to believe what he says. But this stuff
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: about North Korea is simply incredible. So at the very
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: same time as he's doing this, punishing South Korea to
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: suck up to North Korea, who he says has never
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: been disrespectful or threatening, while he's president. At the very
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: same time, another arm of his administration is planning to
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: impose massive punitive tariffs on anyone who trades with Russia,
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: who does primary trade with Russia.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yet North Korea not only trades.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: With Russia, as you say, It has sent them thousands,
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: tens of thousands of troops to fight in Ukraine. It
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: has sent them missiles, It has sent hundreds of thousands
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: or millions of artillery shells in exchange for high tech weaponry.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: At the same time, it's been spanding as rapidly as
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: possible the number of nuclear weapons that it has, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: it's been expanding it's into continental ballistic missile, nuclear capability
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: to fire, to fire the missiles even to the point
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: where they could threaten the United States.
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  Speaker 2: So how does that?
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: All I can guess, and this is purely a guess
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: without any information, is that there's some back channel communication
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: going on with North Korea. Trump wants to announce another great, historic,
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: fabulous success in a week or two, and he's doing
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: this as part of that. That's purely a guess. But
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: it's impossible to work out. You know, what's going on
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: in Trump's mind really.
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  Speaker 2: Well, He told Todson his first presidency that had sorted
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: out the threat from North Korea's nuclear weapons, and that
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: turned out to be fake. It makes so many fake
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: announcements of peace and deals and whatever and turns custard. Now,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: in this case, you said he wouldn't, it's because South
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Korea would and help the US get rid of Iran's
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: nuclear program that he said might have something to do
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: with it. Might Well, you know, look at happened to Israel.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: They did help the US try to get rid of it,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: and they got the back of Trump's hand as well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what is how can any country dare now
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: to get close to Trump knowing how erratic he is
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: and that even when you help him, that's no guarantee
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: of anything.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Trump has become, sadly that most pathetic of creatures,
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: a dangerous enemy, but a fatal friend. It is really
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: fatal to be too close to Trump. I think the
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: United States remains our indispensable ally and we've got to
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: try to keep the strategic alliance there and to keep
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: building relationships with the institutional parts of America that will
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: outlast Trump, such as the Pentagon and god knows, I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: not sure I of criticizing the Albanesi government. But overall,
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: I'd say they've handled the American relationship pretty well and
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: they continue to build a good relationship with a Pentagon.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: But Trump, I think now he's eighty, he's becoming very erratic,
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: even by his own standards. He doesn't have any long
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: term perspective anymore. Everything is tactics. He just wants the
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: announcement rather than the result. And he likes dictators because
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: he knows that he'll still be dealing with them and
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: they can do all kinds of strange deals with him.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Whereas he finds there's not a democratic leader in the
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: world that he is consistently respectful of, and abusing South
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Korea for not joining the military campaign in Iran. No
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: country in the world joined except Israel, and no country
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: was properly consulted or properly asked. And what did he
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: want South Korea to do anyway, just send a few
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: extra ships or something. I mean, it wasn't a lack
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: of military resources that stymied the United States in Iran.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: There's an indication I think that the next two years,
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: this three months leading up to the midterm elections, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: then the last two years of the Trump presidency are
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: likely to be very turbulent, very entropic, no pattern, no
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: clear direction, and we're going to need to be smart
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: to negotiate that period.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Without a doubt. Back coming back to Australia, Greg at
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the top of the show, I said, there are concerns
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that the Royal Commission into Antisemitism isn't going to get
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: into some of the factors driving that Jew hatred. There's
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: been no public examination so far about the texts of Islam.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I no, it's sensitive, but this is a factor or
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the spread of jew hatred by hate preachers. No examination
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: of our immigration program, no examination of the actions of
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: ministers or their failure to act twenty four months an
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: hour to go with this Royal Commission. What's your read Well?
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Look, I think Andrew, you make very substantial points there.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: I kind of half give them a pass not examining
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: the government ministers. We public will adjudicate on that. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: kind of give them a ten percent pass for not
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: examining the texts of Islam. I can understand that, But
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: how come they haven't examined any of the critically important
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: texts which have driven radicalization within Australia from the Muslim
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Brotherhood or from his book Career, how come they haven't
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: examined the sermons of the hate preachers. Just the other
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: day it was clear that they didn't examine left wing
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: anti semitism. So there is right wing anti semitism.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: I completely agree.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: With that, But there are two other big drivers of antisemitism.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Left wing antiseminism based on demonizing Israel around the fraudulent
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: ideology of colonization, and also Islamic antisemitism, which has a
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: very long and broad history going back hundreds of years.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: And if I think they'd be quite happy to catch
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: out any Christians who were behaving in an anti Semitic fashion,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: but they seem to just not want to go anywhere
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: near left wing antisemitism which permeates our universities, or Islamic
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: and Islamist antisemitism, which is a great, big, broad, strong
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: current of history. And you can't really evaluate modern antisemitism
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: if you just rule those subjects out of order.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. That's why I think the texts of Islam, however,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: since it is, should be a subject of the Royal Commission,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: because when you look at the hate passages in the Quran,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: in the death, et cetera, et cetera. That might explain
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: why your immigration program might need a little retooling to
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: make sure that the problem doesn't get worse. I mean,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: but anyway, let's all pretend it's about guns shooting themselves apparently,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Greg Sherian, thank you so much for your time, really
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: appreciate it. After the break, how bad can this housing
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: crisis get? Plus the media club that how the logos
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: last night made it clear that Conservatives aren't welcome. But
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: sure is it news for me? Like I said, the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Albanize of government's Housing Minister, Clear O'Neil seems in denial
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: about just how much of the government's housing taxes in
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: the May budget have been shredding the housing market. You know,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I heard Michael Krogie give the whole whole list of
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: things that had gone wrong. I shouldn't laughed. There's big
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: money for some people are losing. Here's another site last
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: week again, last weekend, clearance rates at auctions around the
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: country were way down, just forty seven percent. In fact,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: O'Neil was so determined not to even discuss all this
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: mess in parliament, not to answer a straight question about it,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: that even the Labor appointed speaker had finally had enough
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and told her to be quiet and sit down.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Minister.
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  Speaker 12: How many homeowners in your electorate of Hawthorm are now
• 31:59
  Speaker 12: in negative equity?
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: These changes lead to a reverse of ten years of
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: decline of a home ownership.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: They want to do.
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  Speaker 13: Absolutely nothing about a year. Well, we have a different view, speaker.
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: We represent all Australians, especially those people.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: In the gallery letter answer, she's not being relevant to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the questions these We're moving to the next question.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Not being relevant the joining me for this and more.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: And Leith and nonsenan co founder of Macro Business and
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: former Federal Treasury official. And Lisa got a former foreign
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: correspondent and founder of an only media leif how bad
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: is the housing mess?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Look, it's certainly bad.
• 32:37
  Speaker 12: For recent first home by is Andrew, around fifty thousand
• 32:40
  Speaker 12: people were suckered into the market by the government's five
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: percent deposit scheme, which was introduced in October last year. Then,
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: the government obviously has helped engineer a price correction with
• 32:50
  Speaker 12: the budgets changes to capital gains tax and negative gary.
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: Now Australian house prices are facing their biggest falls in
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: more than forty years. Sydney prices are already down by
• 32:58
  Speaker 12: six percent, Melbourne's my more than five percent, and the
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: other markets are following. So you know, many recent first
• 33:04
  Speaker 12: home buyers now Andrew risk falling into negative equity with
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: homes that are going to be worth less than their mortgage,
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: which is obviously very bad news for them.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Now. But Lisa, everywhere you look, you're seeing now things
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: falling apart. You've got even Martin Parkinson wouldn't have spotted
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: him for a Labor critic, to be honest. He was
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: head of Treasury for five prime ministers, including coalition months,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: but starting with Labour's Kevin rud saying spending us out
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: of control. It's almost like debt is not an issue
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: for anybody anymore. He says, where are we? Where we
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: are in the economic cycle, we should be running significant
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: structural surpluses, yet we've got a structural and headline deficit
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: we're consuming today and our children are going to pay
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: for it with their tax burden. Lisa, is Parkinson correct?
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I mean it seems like a spendathon and I'm not
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: sure the government knows what's it it's doing.
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  Speaker 14: Well, that's exactly what Parkinson said, right. He basically said
• 34:03
  Speaker 14: that the labor government is pretty much forgotten that debt matters,
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: and it matters because it's not just their continual spending
• 34:10
  Speaker 14: now and we're seeing the results of that across the economy.
• 34:12
  Speaker 14: But as you said, it's the interest that they're building
• 34:15
  Speaker 14: on that that's going to compound and compound and compound
• 34:17
  Speaker 14: that our children and our grandchildren looking like having to
• 34:19
  Speaker 14: pick up the bill on because you can't run a
• 34:22
  Speaker 14: family household like this. And yet the government, with our
• 34:24
  Speaker 14: tax dollars is doing exactly that and just putting Australia
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: on this pathway to a never ending amount of debt
• 34:31
  Speaker 14: at one predicting one trillion dollars now. And I know
• 34:34
  Speaker 14: it's not we're talking federal politics at the moment, but
• 34:36
  Speaker 14: let's move aside to another labor government Victoria. Their interest
• 34:39
  Speaker 14: bill alone every single day is around twenty one million dollars.
• 34:44
  Speaker 14: So the average Australian would be looking at that and say, look,
• 34:47
  Speaker 14: I can't pay my bills and I have to ran
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: in my spending to try to make ends meet. But
• 34:51
  Speaker 14: the governments at state, when you're looking at a state
• 34:54
  Speaker 14: labor government or a federal labor government, aren't doing that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: It's interesting in Parkerson would come out and say all this,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: but you know, Lisa says, but the figures say Australia
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: does seem to have lost all discipline is spending And
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: in some ways you blame the Liberal government because during
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the COVID crisis, I know it had to rescue the economy,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: but it's spent money like it was water and now
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: no one seems to think that debt matters.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 35:25
  Speaker 12: So since the pandemic, the federal and state governments have
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: been on absolute spending spree andrew public spending is at
• 35:31
  Speaker 12: a record high share of GDP. We've got the size
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: of the public sectors across all levels of government is
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: absolutely balloon. Debt levels a rising and their excessive spending
• 35:40
  Speaker 12: is fuel in inflation. It's going to get worse, especially
• 35:42
  Speaker 12: for state governments, because the government's changes to negative gear
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: in and capital gains tax is going to crash stamp
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: duty receipts.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: So as a result, we're going to see.
• 35:50
  Speaker 12: Credit rating downgrades across East Coast state governments.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: As well as a result of that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 12: Look, Australia desperately needs fiscal discipline from all levels of government,
• 35:59
  Speaker 12: not just the federal government. The states as well as
• 36:01
  Speaker 12: simple as that.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've seen no sign of that, Lisa. I mean,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I have to say in one area the government has
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: seemed really disciplined, and that is in its communications, in
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: its projection of unity, conviction, sense of purpose, even while
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: everything's going to custard down behind them. But do you
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: get any sense that it's realizing now that things are
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: getting ragged, it's getting less sure of itself. Am I
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: seeing too much here? What are you detecting?
• 36:32
  Speaker 9: Oh, Andrew?
• 36:33
  Speaker 14: It's really easy to be disciplined on your message when
• 36:35
  Speaker 14: you're selling the good news when you're in control of
• 36:38
  Speaker 14: the news cycle, and the Albanezi government have had the
• 36:40
  Speaker 14: fortune of being in control of that media cycle now
• 36:42
  Speaker 14: for a number of years. But as you say, the
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: wheels are falling off the card and now suddenly you're
• 36:47
  Speaker 14: seeing a prime minister who's under pressure. He's being asked
• 36:50
  Speaker 14: some tougher questions.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: Than he's used to.
• 36:52
  Speaker 14: He certainly didn't like all the fallout from the shagging
• 36:55
  Speaker 14: comment and the goodness knows there I mentioned it, the
• 36:57
  Speaker 14: mallons watching his performances in those press conferences. He wasn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 14: in control and he did not like it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: One bit.
• 37:04
  Speaker 14: And now look at what happened with the Press Club
• 37:06
  Speaker 14: the other week with Tony Burke not being able to
• 37:07
  Speaker 14: present his paper or what he was going to talk
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: about in regards to immigration, because you've got labor now
• 37:13
  Speaker 14: not in agreeance with what they're being forced to decide on,
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: which is a tougher immigration policy. So they're not controlling
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: the narrative anymore. And that's when they're having trouble putting
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: out the messaging that they would prefer all of US
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: Australias to just bow down and listen to. But instead
• 37:27
  Speaker 14: they're actually starting to be questioned on it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: And le if you've actually written quite a lot about
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: the immigration crisis has been out of control, how the
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: government keeps setting targets, keeps succeeding them. Unfortunately when it
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: comes to immigration intake, Tony Burke not being able to
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: present that policy to Cabinet and get it approved. What
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: are you taking out of this? I don't see that
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: discipline that you say is needed, and certainly not in
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: immigration numbers.
• 37:55
  Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, So let's be honest. The federal budget landed
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: like a lead balloon. Tony Burke obviously canceled his immigration
• 38:02
  Speaker 12: address last week, and that was reportedly because of internal
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: divisions within labor. So what I'm seeing, Andrews, I'm seen
• 38:08
  Speaker 12: a government that seems to be in a perpetual state
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: of damage control, whether it's to do with the economy, housing, immigration, melngate,
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: you name.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: It, basically across the board.
• 38:17
  Speaker 12: It's lost the narrative and it seems to be just
• 38:18
  Speaker 12: putting out spotfires or trying to put out spotfires every
• 38:21
  Speaker 12: single day. And that's just basically a sign of a
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  Speaker 12: government that is in trouble in my.
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  Speaker 2: View, Lisa, I mean, you've been in the media a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: long time, not as long as me. You're as fresh
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  Speaker 2: as a day's from.
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  Speaker 11: No.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to That was me backpedaling it very
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: very rapidly. When I started at the left wing aged newspaper,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: do they regret giving me my starting journalism? I realized
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: from that moment that the media lean left ostracized conservatives.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that once when they did a petition against
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  Speaker 2: one journalist that had mocked a women's protest at Pane Gap.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: It's had a petition against him. It's unbelievable. It is
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: the media is and operates like a club. And that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: was sure on show last night of the Logos, as
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Chris Kenny cleverly noted in his show today, mocking former
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: LOGI favorite Carl Sevanov, who I agree has been a
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: bit foolish, but even comedian Dave Hughes, who is now
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: so horrified but Labour's destruction of Victoria that this hole
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: lefty has switched to this now backing Victoria's liberals. Shame
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: on him, according to Logis here we go.
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  Speaker 11: Unfortunately, Karl Stefanovic didn't RSVP tonight, which means we didn't
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: have to hire quite as many bartenders.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: But.
• 39:40
  Speaker 11: We've kept him a spare seat just in case. It's
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: over there to the right, the far right.
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  Speaker 5: Oh god, if Paul and Hanson's mouth was this hard
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: to open, wouldn't well be a bit of place?
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I did notice that inside the then you they've
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: made the carpet gold.
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  Speaker 14: And I wondered if that was because wide us he
• 40:00
  Speaker 14: might turn up and had some spell edge.
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  Speaker 2: So they've got to the head. We have the best
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: factual or documentary category. Now best factual is open to anyone,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: anyone with a possible exception of Sky News. Lisa, what
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  Speaker 2: do you make of all that?
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  Speaker 14: Oh look, it's no surprise that they go out in
• 40:20
  Speaker 14: these programs to roast people. Unfortunately, now they are making
• 40:24
  Speaker 14: it political and they have shown their colors. And can
• 40:26
  Speaker 14: I just say, Andrew, if it's Carl Stefanovic's seat was
• 40:28
  Speaker 14: held to the right, I mean to the far right,
• 40:31
  Speaker 14: Well does that mean all of the ABC were seated
• 40:33
  Speaker 14: to the left. I mean the far left in that
• 40:36
  Speaker 14: room last night, so that if you're looking at how
• 40:39
  Speaker 14: they're aligning the political jokes, I just think it was appalling.
• 40:43
  Speaker 14: And look, David Hughes Dave Huse has basically said to them, well,
• 40:47
  Speaker 14: I fully backed Labor, I voted for Labour in tween
• 40:49
  Speaker 14: twenty five and now he's one of them who's walked
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  Speaker 14: away and it stayed to talk about the serious things
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  Speaker 14: that affect real people, you know, taxes, cost of living,
• 40:56
  Speaker 14: what's happening in our property market, and they don't like it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 14: And as for Karl, well, he's off on his own
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  Speaker 14: now doing his own podcast and he's basically turned his
• 41:04
  Speaker 14: back on a lot of those And I think we
• 41:06
  Speaker 14: have to praise nat Bar because when that right wing
• 41:08
  Speaker 14: comment was made about Carl, she just sat there and
• 41:10
  Speaker 14: sipped quietly on a champagne. She didn't laugh, she was
• 41:12
  Speaker 14: very classy.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say Leith amount of time, but I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: got to ask you about this. I mean, if a
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: comedian criticizes even the appallingly inept Victorian Labor government, which
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: has absolutely destroyed the state and fed organized crime, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: that still gets you ostracized at the logis my god,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: what does that say?
• 41:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it says ry in trouble, doesn't it look? This
• 41:38
  Speaker 12: whole thing wreaks it jealousy and told poppy syndrome. I'd
• 41:41
  Speaker 12: like to see more people in the media call things
• 41:42
  Speaker 12: out like Carl and Dave have done, rather than just
• 41:45
  Speaker 12: blindly following like sheep. And unfortunately we have a media
• 41:47
  Speaker 12: full of sheep.
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid that's always been the case. Lisa got out
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Leith for Nonsen and thank you very much to you both.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Coming up next after the break, Jason Ardai found dead
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: after being exposed as an extraordinary liar and a fraud.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Is the media really to blame? Jason Ardai was found
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  Speaker 2: dead last Friday, and now there's another media controversy, some
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: of the left claiming yet again, always bullied by racists
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: by conservatives all his life, and this time has been
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: bullied to his death, which makes me wonder how blind
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and dumb you must be. We've talked here on the
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  Speaker 2: show about Our Day a couple of times. He was
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: the youngest black professor in the history of Cambridge, one
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: of the world's most famous universities. He was its diversity
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: poster boy. And what a story of triumph over adversity.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Be the most ridiculous story ever told if the boy
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: who can read and write eighteen get to PhD before
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: he's thirty.
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  Speaker 2: But then his astonished lies, truly incredible liares caught up
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  Speaker 2: with him now. It started when he was accused of plagiarism,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: of copying nearly verbatim in his doctoral thesis nearly two
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: hundred passages from another other academics work. He was also
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: faking quotes. Then other claims that Our Day made turned
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: out to be completely false, like running thirty marathons in
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: thirty five days mean people believe that, even claimed that
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: he'd run some of them with a broken leg. He
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: also lied about fundraising that had done, foreign aid work
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: that he had done, visiting professorships he'd held apparently, and
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: even lied about appearing on a famous TV show twenty
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: one years before he was even born, and so on
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: last week I think it might have got too much. Well,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: it certainly did. Two days before he died, even the
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: most central story of Ada's life was exposed as a
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: lie the left wing Guardian. The left wing Guardian was
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the first of three newspapers to say no, his claim
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that he didn't speak until he was nearly twelve was false,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and the left wing Atlantic magazine showed that Our Day
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: had gone from claiming that it survived testicular cancer that
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: put him in a coma as a child, it is
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: surviving two brain cancers instead. Can you believe that joining
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: me from London? Is there regular Monday commentator talk TV
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: host Samara gil Samara, So, who did kill Jason our Day?
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  Speaker 13: Look, Andrew, Frankly, Jason our Day is ultimately responsible for
• 44:32
  Speaker 13: the death of Jason our Day. That's who killed him.
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  Speaker 13: And it's a desperately sad tragedy. You know, he leaves
• 44:39
  Speaker 13: behind two young children and doing what he did should
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: never be the option for anyone. I want to be
• 44:46
  Speaker 13: very frank about that. It is a very terrible set
• 44:49
  Speaker 13: of circumstances. However, a tragic death like he had it
• 44:56
  Speaker 13: doesn't retrospectively turn legitimate journalism into ill legitimate journalism. I mean,
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  Speaker 13: we're talking about a guy who painted the journalist that
• 45:04
  Speaker 13: originally went after him as some sort of far right,
• 45:08
  Speaker 13: white supremacist agitator who is from a you know, an
• 45:12
  Speaker 13: academic journal type of magazine. He sent a lawyer called
• 45:16
  Speaker 13: Carter Ruck who over here in the UK is known as,
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: you know, the person who you do not want to
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: have to deal with, someone who will put a slap
• 45:24
  Speaker 13: lawsuit on anyone who tries to interrogate any of his clients.
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: He saw that story killed, he then obviously sent the
• 45:33
  Speaker 13: police after that journalist. So this was messy from top
• 45:37
  Speaker 13: to bottom. And unfortunately you're right, you know, Twitter and
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: all the social media sites have been an absolute cesspit
• 45:46
  Speaker 13: full of people from the far left and the far
• 45:48
  Speaker 13: right sort of pointing accusations in every which direction about
• 45:53
  Speaker 13: who is responsible for this. But ultimately I do think
• 45:56
  Speaker 13: the responsibility lies with Jason our Day And what a terrible,
• 45:59
  Speaker 13: tarrrible ending to this story.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I just want to segue from something you just said
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: and say to people who are feeling under pressure, particularly
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: if you've been under the media spotlight, I have been
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: on the end of several media pilans, one in particular
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: was extremely brutal, and I got to tell you, you get
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: through it. You just rely on the judgment of your
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: friends and those who love you less than on the
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: judgment of your enemies, and you will be right. You'd
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: be surprised how few people don't follow the news and
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: don't believe it anyway. Anyway, I just wonder too, though,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a Samaria, the argument of people who say, well, look
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: the media is that blame, implying that they shouldn't have
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: covered his lies. Doesn't that actually mean that we don't
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: expose fakes and frauds for fear that they might kill themselves.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: That would put us in a terrible dilemma and make
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: us quite exposed to a lot of people. That mean
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: ill completely.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, this is an individual who claimed that he
• 47:03
  Speaker 13: was autistic and obviously was a vulnerable person. But it
• 47:06
  Speaker 13: absolutely doesn't mean that we shouldn't interrogate and investigate. And
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: I think that, you know, we shouldn't let this instance
• 47:13
  Speaker 13: sort of snuff out free speech in this country, in
• 47:16
  Speaker 13: the UK, in Australia and beyond, and good investigative journalism.
• 47:20
  Speaker 13: I agree that potentially the pylon was a little bit
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: too much. It's slow news over here, it's the summer time.
• 47:26
  Speaker 13: But I also think that it shouldn't stop journalists from
• 47:29
  Speaker 13: doing their job. And to see Cambridge's position and how
• 47:32
  Speaker 13: it's so dramatically change the fact that they were investigating
• 47:35
  Speaker 13: themselves over what the journalists had almost recommended them to do.
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: Now they've obviously paused this investigation now, but it shows
• 47:43
  Speaker 13: that there was some wrongdoing here. And as I've said
• 47:47
  Speaker 13: consistently throughout this whole.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Feel.
• 47:51
  Speaker 13: We need to look at the institutions that held him
• 47:53
  Speaker 13: up and created him in their own image and wanted
• 47:56
  Speaker 13: him to be this sort of post child for them,
• 48:00
  Speaker 13: and put the blame also on them. They should face
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: some accountability. But already Cambridge is chucking it in the
• 48:06
  Speaker 13: direction of the right wing media and blaming them for this,
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: you know, with the Vice chancellor coming out and saying
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: it was an aberration what the media did to him. Well,
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: I think it's an aberration that you put someone like
• 48:17
  Speaker 13: Jason ar Day in this position in the first.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Place, absolutely appointed a man who had cheated on his qualifications,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: made obviously false claims in his biography, had not supervised
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: any students through to a PhD, which was a qualification
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: supposedly and was complained of by students he did take on.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I mean seriously, Samara Gil thank you so much indeed
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: for your time. That's it for me. Coming up next,
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  Speaker 2: Sherry markson good Night,