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727. The Health Truth Every Woman Over 40 Deserves to Know · Be It Till You See It

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[SPEAKER_02]: if we're going to call pregnancy of stress tests, which has become an increasingly common term.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This pregnancy is a stress test of a woman's metabolism and a cardiovascular system.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The way it does, what are we stressing it for?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way I'm looking at this is a little bit different than how I was trained, which again, was if you got the problem, the solution is happening to pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what if we start looking at pregnancy from the perspective of this is an unveiling, an unveiling of what was already there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then nothing's actually gone wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Beat till you see it podcast, where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also Logan, prize instructor and fitness business coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've trained thousands of people around the world, and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My friends, action brings clarity, and it's the antidote to fear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Each week my guests will bring bold, executable, intrinsic, and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and be it till you see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a practice, not a perfect, let's get started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, be it babe, get ready, get your note pad out, get ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're driving, listen, you're in a real listen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to share this episode with everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am so freaking stoked about the guests that we have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I fell in love with her with every single answer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we need women like this in the medical world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dr. Amy Lodin is our guest today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk everything from postpartum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to perimenopause and heart health because ladies, you can't be at tell you see it if you get sick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cannot and I know it's confusing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much information out there in the world and it's like who do we trust?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just so grateful I found her and you're gonna love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So make sure you get ready to hit share on this episode with everyone in your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the men who need to know about what women are going through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My mind is blown on the episode here is Dr. Amy Loden.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, be it babe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm super stoked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about all things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Women health related with an amazing professional person who actually studies a stuff not what I've read and then I'm asserting to you because I don't want to be that influencer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think those people need to take it's little step back and let the professionals do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have Dr. Amy Loden here on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's going to tell us everything we need to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But Dr. Amy Lee tough one who you are and what you rock at kind of how you got here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for inviting me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy to be here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Amy Loden, I am from St. Louis, Missouri.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I helped primarily women over 40, but certainly anyone who's like, how are my hormones working for my life or not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: How is my weight in the mirror matching the weight in my kid or not?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And all the things that come with life transitions from post-partum to period menopause beyond my goal is that women who have interacted with our team will have a better care experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because it's the care experience we want each of us to have had ourselves, and the things each of us are not only professionals within the medical owners and communities, we're patients too, or daughters and sisters and mothers and neighbors and all the things, we know how much it sucks to be patient, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we've tried to redesign what is the best thing for our ladies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now in full transparency, we do have a few dudes, but most of them have had their arms twisted by a rockstar ladies and they are the ones that are coming because they're forced to, and eventually they decide they like us, but we're pretty
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[SPEAKER_02]: happy to go into any detail on rabbit bull you want to chase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god Amy I love that when people ask like about the the people who is in this podcast we have mostly women in a few good men because there are there are some men out there include my husband they want to be interested they want to they want their partners or the women their lives they want to get what's going on they don't want them to feel like an alien or like they're alone in this journey so I think that's really really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also just want to highlight a lot that you brought up your patients too, because as someone who I feel very lucky to go through my period of pause journey, and today's time when people actually are talking about it versus even 10 years ago, generations were not talking about this stuff, and I just feel it's really nice, because then there's information.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would never have known about HRT unless my girlfriend had told me about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that could be going on, and then I could talk to someone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we go back, though,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like to be a doctor like yourself who has empathy and understand, like, you must have gone through a journey as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't just like want to do this, you know, it's like one day and do this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there are a few.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There might be a few, but typically, like, there has, there's a story there that got you to be like, I want to care about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So can you tell us a little bit more about this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so definitely with the traditional college to medical school road really didn't understand that there's a, and I say this with all the love of my heart, but there is a bit of brainwashing to be a good doctor, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what is a good doctor was who, you've been told of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not necessarily an act of external criteria, so just academic medical center say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was very different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I learned through transferring all of my non medical student fears into the actual application of those fears and then being a patient and living those fears that I realize there's a whole lot we're not talking about there's a whole lot that we're not being told.
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[SPEAKER_02]: both as doctors and as women's patients and it's hard to realize you don't know what you don't know if you've been told you're the expert and you know everything right and most doctors don't go around saying everything but there's enough patience who feel like that's what's communicated that that's the language I'm using yeah and that's really frustrating as a patient so
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize how frustrated you know it was until I was a patient and I mummified kids might third and fourth their twins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And really I am so grateful to live in the United States in a time and history where complicated pregnancies does not mean the mom dies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because I developed severe pre-aclampsia with heart failure and my twins came 31 weeks instead of at least 37 and I nearly died the night they were born.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They nearly died the night they were born.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just am grateful that God let me be in a situation that I had the help I needed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Historically, these are not good situations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We see this on TV and in movies frequently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And something like 70,000 women a year across the globe die of the same disease I have, greatly, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not nothing even in our day and age and so countries.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And even in countries where you have a dance medical care and they do everything right it can still happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that for me was the pinnacle of this isn't working.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What we're telling people to do isn't working because I had done all the things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, your doctor, you did all the things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did all the things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You did all the appointments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You were probably doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is your third and fourth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you were like knew what it should feel like you knew.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be eating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You knew all the vitamins today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it didn't work, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think that is the fundamental kind of if you place a pivot on why did I change how I think about healthcare as a doctor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was my experience to patient for myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My husband's had cancer twice, so being the advocate for him, again, those types of things, guiding my children and now my parents through health care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You start to carry a lot of stories and you start to see, well, they're not doing what I think is just the very moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they're not doing that for me or for my family, I know they're not doing it for everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then at the same time holding a ton of grace in my heart because that's to do what they were talked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they can't do differently if they don't know differently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't be better if you don't know to be better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that is a really tight tension.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was working somewhere between 65 and 8 hours a week and had four kids at that time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my daughter came up to midnight and opening the computer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing work like I do every night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she says, you're going to remember, I guess, like, can I help, right, totally innocent, seven-year-old looking forward to her birthday, knows that her mom stops online, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so she's like, I want to take my birthday presents.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of saved it or I was like, no, no, I'm going to work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll do that later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And go watch whatever show is public control for all I know, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's in the background, go watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a better time soon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she just stands there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I haven't even looked at her at this point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like my eyes are on my computer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just talking for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going I'm totally not in the moment, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because like when you have so many three thousand patients and four kids, like I can keep up, I can't keep up, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And barely getting enough sleep with not exercising and I'm just trying to survive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a move, and so I remember not totally slow motion, but I remember turning to her and feeling like I was going to be like, what, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you need?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's just got out of showers, or here's why she got her pink pajamas on bright big blue eyes and their full of tears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there are just silent tears tracking down her face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm horrified.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, what's wrong, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm in fix it mode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and she still doesn't really budge and she just says in a very sad voice, Mommy, why do you love your job more than me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, so the twins tried to kill me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She did kill me, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was a knife in my heart because nothing ever had I wanted to be better than it is so called good doctor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did it be a good mom?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was for me the moment that I realized, I'm not doing either of these well, and I'm not showing up how I want to be personally more professionally, I'm certainly not taking care of my health.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not doing the things I'm telling my patients to, too, it was a moment where I really felt the failures, I felt all the feelings and I told my husband that night, this isn't working anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he actually thought I thought it was talking about our marriage.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he was like, oh my gosh, what's wrong with our marriage, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So no, but I need to like, we have to redo this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I either have to retire or I have to do something different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, you're not retiring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll drive me crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go find something different to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I will make sure our family is okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I did, and this June will be five years of having my
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[SPEAKER_02]: serving women and trying to lean into all the pain and the things and the feelings they're dealing with from all the things and the feelings I dealt with having walked that path.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Dr. Amy, I love that you shared that whole story because I think there's so many women who are listening here and like, they don't have, they may have one kid or they have no kids, but like, I think we could all relate to like having just too much on the plate because right, hello my hi achieving woman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been here listening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We call recovery perfectionists and overachievers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing wrong with being a high achiever, but what happens is we tend to just keep saying yes to things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, yeah, we can fit that one more thing in that one more thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, it just comes to like a volcano breaking point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And because we don't, we don't see the signs early that we are at the breaking point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't, you know, it's almost, it's actually a proven to be not true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But everyone uses the frog in the boiling water.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we just kind of like, you don't realize how hot it's getting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And tell it and tell it your daughter is crying in front of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, incredibly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was awful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I never want to reload that moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also like thank goodness for her because Hi, that she felt brave enough to say that like what about as she is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's just going to be like She's just going to be a girl.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She speaks her mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's 13 now and she heard me tell that story once and now she's like, well, you have to credit me for opening your business because I hadn't so many did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, when she was just going down a notch, please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's called balance babe, it's called balance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, so can we, like, let's get to some of the health stuff I think our listeners are wondering, I want to definitely get into Perry Menopause, but I do want to because we started with a pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I have had family members who have had preclampsia in their, and it's scary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how are pregnancy complications connected to long-term heart risk?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone's thought about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought like, because I have had kids, like it's going to screw up your pelvic floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you might have to rebuild your abs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these other things, but I didn't know it can affect your heart long term.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so glad you brought that up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually did a TEDx talk on this very topic where the idea pregnancy is so much more than just the birth of a kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how we think about pregnancy in our culture.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's even how we think of it medically, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you have preclimpsed, you have gestational diabetes, you have high blood pressure, whatever in pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The answer is into the pregnancy, deliver the can if they're old enough, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like get, move it along and it's gone, but that, I strongly believe, is not true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can't test this in a lab.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to do a little bit of extrapolation here, but if,
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna call pregnancy of stress tests, which has become an increasingly common term.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This pregnancy is a stress test of a woman's metabolism and a cardiovascular system.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The way it does, what are we stressing it for?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way I'm looking at this is a little bit different than how I was trained, which again, if you got the problem, the solution is happening to pregnancy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: What if we start looking at pregnancy from the perspective of this is an unveiling?
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[SPEAKER_02]: An unveiling of what was already there?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then nothing's actually gone wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's scary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's horrifying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, absolutely, people die.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So how can I say nothing's gone wrong?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What I mean is nothing has gone wrong in the context of the situation we put your body in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly responding the way it should for the context it's in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, if I have underlying insulin resistance, and then I put a pregnancy on top of that, or pairing metapause, and I'm starting to have more insulin resistance, well, of course, I'm going to develop gestational divide medics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I'm having a lot more flu-retention and I'm putting it all the way, of course, my blood pressure is going to go up, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I've got underlying inflammation, of course, preclimps is going to develop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I think we need to stop and think about it as it's not done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is unmasked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once you know it's unmasked, you treat it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see because again, we think of pregnancy as just the baby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have the baby, but it's, well, but there's a prop, an underlying problem that the pregnancy revealed is what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If having the baby is the safest thing for both people, we do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I also, you still have this underlying issue.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think anyone does that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're just, okay, now you don't have to stational diabetes anymore, but I've had clients who had it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a doctor, but there's no sense that he just picked that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For a moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually experienced this other patients too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went in after my first pregnancy gestational diabetes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the time I was living in New York City.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I walked everywhere as a normal weight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I ate pretty clean.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And despite being a residency, I got decent sleep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have any other kids as my first kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to sleep right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had the baby after having had gestational diabetes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I go see my OB and she's, oh, just follow up with your primary doctor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I go see my primary doctor and he's, your weight's normal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll have to normal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is how I was trained to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So again, lots of love in my heart there, not they're just not told.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But for more than 10 years, we've known that women who have these high-risk pregnancies are high-risk, not just for diabetes, but heart disease, stroke, kidney failure, dementia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I can't treat dementia well on the clinic, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So why wouldn't I want all he is on-deck-turn to prevent it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that's not how our medical professionals are trained, but nurses, advanced practice for us, any of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, though, we're asking people and expecting people to feel in a gap they don't know exists.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, all these reproductive age women are falling into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then where it gets really interesting, is some of the same things you have immediately post-partum in all your different types of hormone fluctuations are matched intermittently for 10 to 15 years before menopause when you're in the pairing menopausal years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Correct, but in that's why these women are feeling I'm going to my doctor and putting on weight, I'm doing all the things, it's not working and they're being gas lit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Partly because their doctors don't know what they don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And probably because we're not acknowledging this is the same physiologic status
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're not in a country and we don't have the testing that would promote or facilitate checking what is your normal normal level in 18, so that we know what 18 should look like and then by 45, you know what I will or not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're trying to patch work together a whole bunch of tests and different labs of different testing and different people say different things about testing is very confusing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the end up with women suffering.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of the day, that's the problem I'm trying to solve is how do we stop these women from suffering because they are called to live big lives to be ambitious for a purpose, for a calling, they have a lot to do and their health is one of their biggest assets that should not be a liability.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what's happening, especially for women who are trying to not work just in the home, but outside the home, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot, they're carried.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, I don't really know, sorry, I'm having a total of very many post moments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember where we started with that question here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll stop there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry, babe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got my focus meds on the ADHD today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
16:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm tracking, so we're guys, but if we were talking about the postpartum and then we got to those hormones that switch as and they can repeat into perimenopause and I think this is fascinating and I love that you brought up.
16:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter if you're in the home or out of the home, we have big lives.
16:57
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't have our healthy reliability and I think for a lot of us, it feels like like my girlfriend's
17:01
[SPEAKER_01]: a weightless coach for women over 40 who feel like their body gave middle finger.
17:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what her coaching is.
17:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's all about not going to yo yo diet.
17:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to work.
17:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to figure out what is the underlying issues.
17:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And it can only go so far because you said, we don't test our hormones at 18.
17:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't do that.
17:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't know what is normal for us.
17:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember I was having a lot of health issues, digestive issues in my 30s, and no doctor could help me.
17:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had one doctor in Sydney,
17:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't this weird part where they study HIV and Ebola in the hospital and just do you know where I'm here?
17:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I'm here.
17:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't this scares a hell out of me.
17:36
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like an apartment I should not be in.
17:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not in any pain.
17:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I'm taking someone's spot.
17:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And so because he just couldn't figure out what was going on my stomach.
17:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So I found someone.
17:46
[SPEAKER_01]: to did an actual test of everything.
17:48
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so range normal.
17:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what normal is for you.
17:51
[SPEAKER_01]: We just know what the average person relationship of this population of people that who knows who they were that were tested.
17:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So what is normal for you might not be the average?
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, oh, well, that's the first time anyone said anything that makes sense at the first time.
18:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can be in range, but for your hormones, but it wasn't in range for you, because maybe you were used to hire testosterone, you used to hire things.
18:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I love that people like you exist.
18:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry for the frustration of your own journey, but also without people like you, women like me wouldn't have someone going, hey, actually,
18:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you should be on testosterone right now, even though this is what it is, mine was actually zero.
18:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But people, you know, we can actually get you help because I feel so much better because someone finally is listening to me and thought, yes, we're not going to compare you to the Iran in person.
18:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to compare you to how you used to feeling correct.
18:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And for most people, that can't happen in the traditional system.
18:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
18:44
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do that in a 10 minute visit.
18:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
18:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do it when your doctor is 3000 patients,
18:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
18:53
[SPEAKER_02]: You just can't.
18:54
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got a little bit of unrealistic expectations as a society, and then, you know, any met women's magazine or journal article, you read, so it's talked to your doctor about that.
19:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So then you go in, you're not going for a period.
19:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I have my list.
19:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I've done it to folks, right?
19:05
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a criticism, but they can't.
19:08
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have the ability to process it, and the way they're paid is based on the questions they ask you for insurance.
19:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So every incentive is misaligned, and at the end of the day, women, people are being screwed.
19:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:20
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's so true.
19:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad I talked with postpartum.
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get into now, or in the Perry minute pause.
19:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, this is hard because Yale, you mentioned the hormone shift of people after postpartum is it's own crazy world.
19:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I keep checking on my sister and law every time.
19:33
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling?
19:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you feeling okay?
19:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
19:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You feel okay?
19:36
[SPEAKER_01]: She's I'm fine.
19:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you fine?
19:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just I'd for you know.
19:38
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay if you feel different.
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, I do some crazy, but I know that that people don't realize how they're feeling it, and it's, it's hard to get to the doctor and tell it's too late.
19:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just on, I'm on our, but for people like me, we didn't have children.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have never experienced a crazy shift.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We just start to experience, I don't feel like myself anymore.
19:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I, and all the symptoms are so different for every single person.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not having a lot of pleasure, but I, I, I got to keep my, my hair still here, but my inflammation was insane.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I was putting on weight and working out
20:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand what's going on.
20:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so can we talk a little bit about what?
20:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where you want to start with that.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So you tell me where you want to start with, my post, my pyramid of puzzle people who are not necessarily attributing these changes to that.
20:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think the biggest confusion I see in the things and room conversations is that there's just a question of am I in parry menopause or not?
20:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's more of a less of a yes-no and more of are you on the spectrum or where on this spectrum are you?
20:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you think of it as a sliding scale, because some months those ovaries are work are really great and you feel all the fields and you're 18 again.
20:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of months maybe you're more like 20 or 20.
20:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, if right, and then maybe out of the blue is, I feel like I got right over my truck now.
20:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It's working for two to three months, and then we'll back to 25.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's up, send down, and what is happening?
20:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a roller coaster, and it runs anywhere from 10 to 15 years before you actually go through the minute pass.
21:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think of it as reverse adolescence, and I think it's completely ironic that Godless has have teenage girls when moms are going through a perimenopause because that is just double adolescence whammy, right?
21:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And no wonder, no, no wonder Mary just don't survive certain things.
21:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
21:18
[SPEAKER_01]: If you have a daughter going through puberty and a wife in the agreement of husband, good luck with the husband.
21:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to have sex, I don't want to have sex, I have pimples all over my face, I don't want to go out of the house, I do, I do my belly split and it's not like my moods up all the dates and it's all in reverse.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a period of a woman's life that I think needs to be acknowledged and then within the health care system, there's more noise about it over the last five years, you're seeing more and more people talk about this, but there's not a lot of standardization.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you're getting parapractic, functional medicine, traditional medicine,
21:52
[SPEAKER_02]: So my hope is that over the next decade we start to see some standardization and we start to say this is what is normal for this population.
22:00
[SPEAKER_02]: You still have to apply it to the person.
22:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot take population data and apply it to individuals and say that you're going to have good luck.
22:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Bye, we'll see you in the future that doesn't work.
22:10
[SPEAKER_02]: What I do think is that women need to know what's normal for that time and then they need to decide do they want to do something about it beyond
22:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's some really interesting data that I hope your listeners suddenly stop and listen if they don't hear anything I've said yet this will be really important for women who have hot flashes and night sweats either one they're actually the same thing we call them these are what are symptoms when you have those at a certain degree so that they're happening most days of the week more than 10 times a day would be an easy target to kind of pay attention to.
22:42
[SPEAKER_02]: You have that and you're choosing not to take hormones.
22:44
[SPEAKER_02]: You actually have an increased risk for cardiovascular disease and stroke that doesn't make every woman in that category can or should take it, there may be reasons that can't.
22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: But the hormones as we use today are different that we're in the women's health initiative that came out in our early 2000s.
22:58
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're getting a lot of confusion because women are reading about data from that, not realizing that it has changed.
23:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And that study's not gonna be written on it.
23:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a huge study.
23:08
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not gonna see data like that.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have to make really informed decisions.
23:11
[SPEAKER_02]: But cardiovascular disease, here we ladies.
23:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Artymanascular disease, which includes stroke and heart failure, kills the more women every year than all your cancers combined.
23:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I get the women and they come in religiously for our mammograms or their path test, right?
23:28
[SPEAKER_02]: But they don't know that the bigger risk is that they're going to die of heart disease, cardiovascular stroke.
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And we know that one and eight women roughly, right, have breast cancer, breast, and those women get it.
23:40
[SPEAKER_02]: One and two women are getting heart disease.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's gone into one and two.
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So that means there's two of us on this call, right?
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We already know I'm going to get it because I had pretty clear to see a song by wasn't going to say it.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not me, but it's not you.
23:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, thank God, you know that.
23:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think that it's one and two, especially if you don't know because if you know that you're at risk, then you can do something.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I am double the risk for breast cancer.
24:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have to do an MRI and a mammogram every six months and I have some decisions.
24:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I might have to make in my life.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
24:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I can take action.
24:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, correct.
24:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, using that same kind of history, if someone who's in my office, it says that, I don't want to take hormones because I'm like, that's fine.
24:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's look at all the facts.
24:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's lay it out like your financial advisor does.
24:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can make an informed decision because just acting out of fear or reacting is not wise here.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually really appreciate you mentioned that because it's true if I'm very lucky in that I still get to do the HRT that I'm on, we even with my risk, but also they're checking me every six months and I'm checking me so if anything's going to happen we're going to catch it so.
24:48
[SPEAKER_01]: much more quicker.
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas the heart stuff, there's only someone you can do with that.
24:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And so especially if you're not aware, obviously there's all conversations that I like the you but light it out with the the wealth manager I just met with mine.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: You laid out here's where we're being aggressive, here's where we're doing this, here's what's going on here.
25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to move this over here because we're going to risk manage these risks.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's
25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a better way to look at it because we're not going to, you, every single one of us is unfortunately going to experience something because it's a body, we're not in a machine.
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It wears out.
25:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not know it was one in two, girl.
25:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and with even more disturbing, you may have heard a lot of women have by now that women's heart disease presents differently than men.
25:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, can you tell us just in case my people haven't heard because you didn't know it was one in two, so let's go over the signs.
25:33
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of times people think of what's this so-called traditional, it's the job pain and the radiation of pain from your chest up to your jaw, to your back, down your left arm.
25:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Very classic symptoms.
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Classic because it was studied in the men.
25:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have these so called atypical for women because they're not typical compared to that, but they're classic for women and so that little bit of lingo here that it doesn't make total sense, but for women, sometimes it's they just feel a lot more anxious and they've been for unclear reasons.
26:00
[SPEAKER_02]: They have this sense of something bad is on the rise and they can't really place why their sleep is different.
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they're having some shortness of breath they didn't use to have maybe they go up the stairs in their house, you know, with a laundry basket and they're having a puff and when six months ago, they weren't so it could be very subtle differences could be a new fatigue check labs are normal, but the fatigue still there that worries me when I hear what they say this.
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, the number one sign that you have hard disease is sudden death.
26:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so let's take it for a second.
26:31
[SPEAKER_02]: So we can't always wait all of the science or
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can't fix that right.
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that's hard because our signs are also, I feel like high achieving women would so easily brush away that anxiety.
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: All the stuff because it's like I've got this going on or I haven't been working out.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So of course, I'm out of breath going up the stairs.
26:53
[SPEAKER_02]: They would just make it's graduation season.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: It's letting season, right?
26:56
[SPEAKER_02]: This is just aging.
26:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not the story at all.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is 10 minute visit with your doctor who has 3000 patients.
27:04
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't know who you are.
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to notice that this is different for you.
27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, decreased exercise tolerance is a big one.
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you could walk three miles every day in your neighborhood and now you're like, wow, I'm really struggling to get through one.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm worried about that.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on a lie.
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess since one getting a ten minute visit is hard.
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I live in I live in Las Vegas last I heard we are short general practitioners by 1400.
27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have one.
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I go to a women's clinic and I'm really grateful.
27:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a it's also a student teacher thing.
27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So I actually they've caught things because the students are asking the questions because they're yes, yes.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm it.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I love them.
27:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so grateful for them, but are there things that women can do to check their heart or is it just being?
27:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it just noticing the one mile versus a three mile?
27:50
[SPEAKER_01]: What can we, what are the sites we need to be checking on?
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It's certainly to be aware of what your body is telling you.
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, if you have to remember nothing else, this is another one, is that your body is smart.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: It will talk to you, but you have to listen.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
28:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's really essential.
28:02
[SPEAKER_02]: There's something different, say, something.
28:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
28:05
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a big collapse, if you will, of how much support we have in healthcare,
28:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And the issue is not all of them are trying the same way.
28:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So when I worked in the OBGYN clinic, it became apparent to both of us, you know, on both sides of it, that OB's no stuff about oneself, I don't know.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know some about metabolic and heart health, that the OB's aren't taught in most women use their OB's if they're a primary care, at least to a certain age.
28:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, you don't know what you don't know.
28:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't realize what you're not looking for that you should be.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And our system's not set up for good collaboration.
28:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I could tell one minute, you know, here's a checklist of things I want to make sure you get your doctor's going to give you some of this it's most likely because they don't realize that life will protein with a little ay it's like in parentheses at the end of it not the big ay by reporting little I if you have that mutation and 10 to 20% of our population does you have a different rate of lack development at least risk for that than average risk moments.
28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have high insulin levels, you have a higher risk that you're going to be on a pathway toward diabetes, those are not things that are standard checks, so knowing that there's other tests you can ask for even if your interest is a cover it, they're not expensive tests, just get it months right have an idea of what's going on in your body once gives you a ton of information.
29:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I have for a lot of our patients to wear different glucose monitors, even if they're not on diabetes and all my physicians are listening to this are probably you do what but the reason is, if you can figure out that your glucose and insulin are high before you develop diabetes or prediabetes, if you figured out that insulin resistance stage, that's a lot easier to fix.
29:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Our doctor's having a talk about what is insulin resistance, what is the criteria for it and how do we reverse it.
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because there's some prevention we can do if we have information.
29:45
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a point.
29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And if things women can do in their homes or their businesses, it's not so fun doing anything.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's also, you know, you're really in this podcast, you're kind of a go get or anyway, so you're gonna, you'll, you'll take the action.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Our health insurance is very bizarre.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I was crap because, but it has a lot of preventative stuff that goes on with that.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we want to put this thing in your house and check your heart and some other levels.
30:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Ever, I don't know, two or three times a week, they keep calling up.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to adults.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We have 28 HD adults in this household.
30:12
[SPEAKER_01]: The box is here.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: One of us will open it when it becomes,
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the pressure.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I just have to hang tight.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really impressed by that because we don't have access to a regular doctor.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So when information can we gather so we can be watching it and monitoring it so we can advocate for ourselves if something comes up.
30:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So having that prevention is really amazing.
30:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we talked a little bit about the, you know, pyramid of pause and the different things, what are some some simple shifts that women can make now to protect their future?
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously we have a wide range of women.
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So the now is different.
30:44
[SPEAKER_01]: What are some things that they could be doing?
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I do think that they are getting information from, you know, the magazines and the Instagram zone.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: We should get it from the person who's experienced it and has seen it, you know, so you.
30:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
30:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So easy things.
30:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And I say easy, rather, because they're easy to do, which means they're easy not to do.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So, acknowledge it, right?
31:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's real.
31:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one, understanding that just because you get hours asleep if they're not high quality hours, you've got a metabolic risk from your sleep, not being normal.
31:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's important to understand because you've just met a third of your life asleep, right?
31:14
[SPEAKER_01]: What's a metabolic risk just in case my people, I don't see.
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So, if you don't get good quality sleep, your cortisol goes up, and it's one of your stress hormones.
31:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And when cortisol goes up, glucose goes up, and glucose goes up, and insulin goes up, and
31:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So even without your sex hormones being involved or the grown and I left in your hearing about with weight and jail peas and all that just those you're not getting a sleep, it's going to be a problem.
31:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Insolent resistance is going to go up insulin resistance means your cells are not listening to the insulin body's giving it so your body works harder to get more insulin and the cells work harder to ignore it and it just keeps going in a vicious cycle.
31:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So if we consider that that's the root cause of a lot of these problems we've been talking about, we fix that number one is get could sleep, it could
31:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that's important.
31:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Number two is most people don't realize that they're doing it backwards or if they're if they're even able to get exercise in their life right now, right.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to make the assumption that you figured out some exercise, right when you like we're at that level, but they're doing it at the wrong time and they're doing it in a way that they're sabotaging their end result.
32:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So rather than going to the gym and then going in the evening dinner or going to the gym first thing in the morning and skipping breakfast and all these things, you need to eat, protein, and fat, and then you need to move your thighs.
32:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if that's jumping tax going for a walk running up the stairs.
32:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Something where your thighs are moving regularly for 10 minutes.
32:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So make it whatever you like doing this can be the mom at home who's doing all sorts of fun class activity with her kid right like moving that the baby around or the teenager can be equally fun to around and then it could be the CEO who's getting ready for a meeting and has 10 minutes after eating whatever lunch she had in the five minute break she did right.
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm looking at what makes sense in your life, but 10 minutes of physical activity.
32:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Ideally, after every meal, that's not realistic, but that's ideal.
33:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you start with the one meal a day you can do.
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You do it most days of the week to start with.
33:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Because most of us, after you're at home, make it happen.
33:10
[SPEAKER_02]: But movement for 10 minutes after eating, it's crucial.
33:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot stress that enough.
33:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize it was it makes total sense moving your body after eating because I like to go for a walk after I have lunch.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, I'm tired.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris, I can go back to work.
33:25
[SPEAKER_02]: The reason you're tired, those kids your glucose goes up and your insulin went up to match it.
33:29
[SPEAKER_02]: When you walk right after your ear glucose goes up, but it's less and so you have to less insulin spike.
33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the bright driver here.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you've got to do the movement after.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And if it helped to understand why, I think back to what our ancestors had a thousand years ago, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We weren't checking hormones, we weren't checking in so we weren't talking about hacks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We were trying to survive most of the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the things they did is they, if they, after the eight, they moved around, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they were building their shelters.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were taking care of the kids.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were moving in the community, helping build, create, relocate whatever they were always moving.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they did not get the whole three square meals a day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's bogus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need three meals a day, okay?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And most of my ladies don't realize that they're eating their nutrients potentially in the wrong order for their body, that they're eating them in the wrong time for the cycle of the month.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're in, they're not getting enough protein, not getting enough fat for their hormones in their brain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't happen quickly, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's months, years, maybe in a couple decades before they're I don't know what happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But
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[SPEAKER_02]: My body in the mirror is not the body in my head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not who I am.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a disconnect and they finally are at that place where they have to do something without body is forcing them to stop because they've pushed us out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a whole episode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're having you back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just telling you right now because I want to have a whole episode on the whole because what I do know is if you need certain things, if you work out too late, if you get your cortisol up, sleep out, I have been trying to figure out sleep for over a decade and I get good quality sleep most of the time, but I'm obsessed with it because I'm like, I don't want Alzheimer's, I do not want heart problems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it doesn't really matter what I'm doing at the gym if I'm not sleeping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that matters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter what if you don't get good sleep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the rest is going to just fall apart anyways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes sense about the food because I remember when I was having problems with my cycle and I had my one of my doctor's friends, she said, you should try seed cycling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because I just the worst cramps and like the worst, everything was just the worst in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I tried to see cycling in my goodness, you know, I'm not a woo woo girl, but the seed cycling makes, I got, I had no more zits.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My boobs didn't hurt as bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything leveled out and I didn't need any extra hormones for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, whoa, so now there must be more when you know about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll have to have you back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I talked to you forever.
35:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So well, this is part one of many.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're gonna take a brief break and then find out people can find
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Dr. Amy Lodon, where do you hang out?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've mentioned St. Louis can people work with you if they're not in St. Louis?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How does this work?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's way to go and contact with our office.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just going to our website.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell the MWC work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can sign up for a consultation and we can go through what their options are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is also lots of opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't want to work with us directly, but you want to continue the conversation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And here what we're seeing, I do all the social media I can so that people can hear what's being said in their exam rooms and have it in their real lives too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can do that on follow me at Dr. Amy Tiffany, whether it's on Instagram or TikTok or Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You find it where they're also in LinkedIn at any Dr. Amy Logan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So lots of places.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Depends on what their needs are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One special offer I do have for your audience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about a pregnancy and a parry metapausal bit through this conversation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: they can contact my office for a free physical copy of my book, the postpartum pivot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And before you stop listening ladies, and you think, well, I'm not postpartum.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you've had a baby, you're postpartum even in its 20 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your body's different than it was before that baby.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you can understand what does this look like for appearing that a pause and other types of areas that we go through as we grow less young, but grow more wise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, every one of my people, females, that's for your Christmas present, I'm sorry, just gonna get...
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[SPEAKER_01]: They know it's if they're doctors doesn't tell them they don't know right and then they're just right through it and I feel so bad because every woman in my life is such a bad ass And then they get their body doesn't keep up with what they're wanting to do in life and then it just becomes There's not just like a liability, but like this hang up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you are amazing
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you've given us some great stuff already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're going to have to rewind and all listen to this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got, you know, got my no-pad out, but our bold, executable, intrinsic, or targeted steps people can take to be it to they see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you have for us?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want each one, when you be it as you see it, I want you to be true to what you body's telling you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And recognize nothing's gone wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, when things are happening, and you see my kids and crisis, nothing's gone wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your body's talking to you, listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when you listen, you become more wise.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You become a better version of yourself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I really love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about that earlier, but it's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of us think our body is against us and it's doing something to us, but really it's right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The alarm.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lastly, what it should do for the situation we've put it in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't mean we like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, my body did exactly what it's supposed to do, but if we understand that then it becomes a neutral thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not bad or wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's I didn't listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm going to stop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the best place to reverse as soon as you realize you're going to, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not to keep going in the wrong direction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So nothing is gone wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just need to listen when you turn around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great other story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, and then so in my name is so fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for being you and you're, and the journey that you've been on is something we can all benefit from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for that.
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