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Mud Motors, Duck Calls & Burritos: A Rowdy Hunt Recap · DuckFellas Podcast

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  Welcome to the Duckfellas Podcast, your weekly dose of waterfall wisdom,
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  blind banter, and hunting stories that might just be mostly true,
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  hosted by Tyler, Cade, and I guess Austin.
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  Free fellas, chasing feathers, and good times. Do us a favor and hit that like
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  Oh there he is we're back there he is you got him on the stage this time good job yes,
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  so glad we could make it here again this week beer crack and all i like it yeah
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  that was pretty loud can you keep that toned down a little bit i'm sorry i'll
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  get better i promise you won't just I still haven't gotten better.
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  He's gotten better. He hasn't gotten better. Yeah, no, that's a fact.
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  Well, I would say hunting this week was pretty dismal at best.
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  I don't think I went, but a few times.
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  Did you go at all? You went the first couple days of the week, didn't you? Yeah.
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  Yeah, just like the, actually just the first day.
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  Oh, we talked about that on our podcast. We didn't do that until Tuesday last
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  week, right? Right, yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah, so I mean, I went hunting, I know for sure I went Thursday.
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  Was that Thursday I went or Friday?
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  I think it was Friday. With me and New York. Friday, yeah.
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  But, eh, that sucked. We spent most of the hunt in our truck because there was
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  nothing flying, and it was not worth being outside the cold form.
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  That's all right. Some of us were at work.
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  Work, work. Yeah. Can relate to that. Yeah.
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  What is that? That's right. Unfortunately, neither of our wives won the lottery,
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  so we had to go back to work this week. Yep.
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  Dang. That sucks. It's unfortunate, really. And you got old money bags over
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  here that just doesn't have to work. Yeah.
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  Must be nice. See, I haven't been working, so I have zero money,
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  actually. That's the joke's on you guys. Negative money.
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  The bank's going to be knocking on my door sooner than later.
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  You couldn't get that lucky. I know. Hopefully, they take Ellie first.
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  What'd she ever do to you? Looked at me wrong. Have you ever hung out with that
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  dog? Yeah, she's cool. She snuggles with me, just not you.
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  Fair enough. New Year's. I mean, we did have a holiday this week. Sure did.
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  Tookie didn't. Yeah, no, Pookie stayed home like a freaking loser.
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  Yeah, you know, some of us don't have that luxury and we still have to work.
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  You could still go out for a little bit and hang out with your friend.
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  That is a pretty piss poor excuse, I will say.
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  Yeah, you're right, I could, but I have bad self-control, so I decided to just
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  stay home instead of hating my life at 4 o'clock in the morning when I had to wake up for work.
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  That is a very good reason. I will give you that.
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  Yeah. I don't necessarily know, I guess, if it's my self-control or if it's
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  you guys just being shitty friends, honestly.
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  I would go more with us being shitty friends. Yeah, for sure.
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  I mean, we did stay out a lot later than I had originally planned on.
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  Yeah, same, same. It happens like that every single time.
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  Especially at that house. It's just like a magnet for early mornings.
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  Well, dude, they were still partying when I woke up in the morning. Yeah.
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  Yeah, that will happen. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Yeah. We see the sunrise from time to time.
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  I'm dumb enough to do it, but usually in the summertime.
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  I think we left around the same time. 1 or 1.30. Yeah, something like that.
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  It was plenty late enough. Yeah, I got up in the morning and went scouting for
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  geese. Shouldn't have done that because I ended up getting my truck stuck.
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  Yeah, you did. Ended up having to get Kate off the couch finally and come get me unstuck.
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  Got my nice clean truck all muddy. It's clean again. It looks good.
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  There's still mud falling off of it. Is there?
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  I just washed that rental yesterday, finally. And it was, it was been wobbling the whole time.
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  Yeah. Driving down the interstate, dude, there was mud flying everywhere.
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  Well, I mean, I guess we might as well go ahead and get into this week's shenanigans and topics.
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  We'll let Pookie lead us into the topics of the week.
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  Bringing to you guys this week, we have brands and styles.
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  Can you get a little more cheerful with that? Don't just... It's not like you're being... My bad.
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  No, sure. Sorry, guys. Come on, guy. Really happy to be here.
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  Love all of you guys that are watching us.
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  Brands and styles of calls, types of boats and motors, and Gooth Wars.
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  See, that was a little better. I mean, well, it's a work in progress.
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  Yeah, it's still going to need more Razzle.
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  Like when you pull over a car that has like 5% windows, we need that level of energy.
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  Dude, this morning when I passed him this morning. That's something that can't be replicated.
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  You just got to have an imagination. I know that requires a brain, but still.
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  We don't have a lot of that sitting right here. No. Not a lot.
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  None, actually. I do negative.
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  All right. popular brands of
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  duck calls what do you guys use Cade I got
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  a jargon and I have a foils I know
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  Tyler's a big foils guy always have been
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  sound good you're new to that jargon too this year
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  right this is your first full season with it no I had one should I have one
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  for four or five years but I made the mistake of going out and doing some some
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  decoy photography in the spring and I took my little duck call with me and didn't
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  take my whole lanyard and it fell out of my pocket somewhere and never found it.
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  That first one sounded better, though. I don't know what the scoop is with this
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  one, but that first one definitely sounded night and day better.
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  You're talking about the Jorgons? Jargon. Jargon.
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  Yeah, I'm with you on the foils. Always use his calls since I was a kid, pretty much.
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  I mean, it was hard to beat that Buck Gardner Double Nasty 2 back in the day,
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  though. Oh, yeah. That $20 call at Walmart.
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  Oh, yeah. I mean, you could rip on those things pretty well. Yeah.
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  They sounded good. But, I mean, it was still a $20 call. It would definitely
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  get stuck or freeze up really easy.
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  And that's one thing I very rarely have a problem with. Unless it's freezing,
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  my foils never stick. yeah very rare unless they're super dirty and I haven't
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  cleaned them in a while that does happen.
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  Are you guys the type of guys that will run two different calls,
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  like using two different calls, like during a hunt or like once you get one
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  figured out, are you pretty comfortable with it and just staying with it?
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  I know obviously you guys much more
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  than me like have called for a lot longer have
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  a lot more experience and it have a lot more range in
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  your calling so maybe where a newer caller would
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  need two separate calls to maybe
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  have that range where you guys don't have to
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  I guess I would say it has a lot to do with what you're hunting I mean but I
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  don't I generally would say yeah I always like to have two calls one that's
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  more loud crisp and just get after them when they're way up way far away or
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  way high whatever and then I want one that's a little softer and sweeter that I can,
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  when I'm trying to finish birds I can switch to that call and get them down
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  in there when I could do the same thing with my open water call I do that all
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  the time but when I do remember I'll grab my other call on the lanyard and finish
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  them with that one because it's just it's a little bit softer not as loud and
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  it's more friendly when they're closer so what what are those calls for you like Like,
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  what is that hail call that you're using?
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  I think my dead meat is the one I use to scream at them, get their attention,
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  try and get them to break down and come to us.
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  And then I think I have a timber rattler. And I use all single reeds.
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  I don't, I don't, I'm not a particular fan of the double reads as much,
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  but they're a little bit easier to blow.
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  I think for beginners, I do think a double read is something that can help a
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  beginner learn how to blow a duck call and get the basics down.
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  And then you can step to a single read and play with it. Cause it's way easier
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  to do a single read than a double read.
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  And once you know how to blow it, you can get a lot more duck out of a single
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  read than a double read. You're kind of limited with a double read. I feel like.
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  Yeah. Yeah. I don't think doing like that bouncing hand and some stuff like
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  that is definitely a challenge on a double read. to make it sound good too.
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  Yeah, they just typically don't have as much like that squeak that you can get
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  out of a single read. No, it's too stiff between the two reads I think.
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  Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are calls that you can do that.
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  I'm sure there's plenty of guys out there that can do it very easily,
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  just I'm not that caliber caller. I'd still rather just blow a single read and do it all myself.
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  Not let the reads dictate how my call sounds.
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  Yeah, I don't want to be limited when it comes to that. I want to be able to
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  have full range of however I need to call at the bird at the time.
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  Right, right. And double reeds tend to stick a lot easier, I think.
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  They do. They definitely do. They freeze up so much quicker.
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  You get the spit in between them and they start sounding like shit.
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  I don't know about you, but I blow a lot of spit through my call and it's really annoying.
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  I typically don't unless it's really cold out and it just condenses all the air you blow into it.
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  Then it's like a freaking geyser flowing out of there.
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  Acrylic, poly, or wood? What's your guys' go-to?
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  My go-to is an acrylic same now if i'm
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  just gonna have like i'm just a laid-back relaxed hunt or i don't really care
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  how we do i would i do like the sound of a wood wooden call like yeah an old
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  cocobola duck call is hard to beat for the that sound but you cannot get near
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  as loud on a wood call as you can on an acrylic no even hollow yeah,
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  Poly works pretty good for a lot of scenarios, too. I mean, they're way cheaper
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  calls. That's where you get your $20 or $40.
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  I mean, anywhere from $20 to, I'd say, $60 range is your polycarb range.
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  And then your acrylics, you're not going to find a good acrylic call for less than $80.
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  I'd even go to venture less than $100. Yeah.
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  Especially now, with the way everything's trending, I would agree with that.
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  Yeah. Nowadays, you're looking at $140 for a duck call compared to what it used to be like.
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  I mean, the average price used to be probably $80 a call. Yeah.
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  For a duck, and then goose was like 100 to 120.
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  How many calls are you guys running on your lanyards? What's the setup look
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  like? Too many. I typically have four. Two duck, two goose.
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  I have, right now I have three duck, one goose, and one speckle belly.
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  And I need to get rid of one of the duck calls because I cannot get the thing
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  to sound right. You need to get rid of that speckle belly call.
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  Excuse me, do you know how to blow a speckle belly call? I don't know how to
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  blow a regular goose call. Does anybody else have a speckle belly call? No.
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  Oh, okay. How many, how many specs have we killed in Iowa this year?
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  We hardly ever killed specs in Iowa, but I've killed a lot of specs with that call.
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  Fake news. Were you with him? Because I haven't been.
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  The one, the one that we shot this year, we didn't have to call out.
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  It was already on top of the boat. He was doing it.
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  He saw his friends and he wanted to party. We didn't even have any spec decoys
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  out. I don't think it was all the decoys. I don't think so.
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  Yeah. It was definitely like your six Canada floaters. and we didn't even have
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  that many ducks out that day.
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  No, we did not. What did we have? Like maybe a third of the little boat?
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  We didn't have very many.
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  No, we had maybe like five dozen acres out, I think, at best. Yeah.
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  Thank God, because we had to brush all the snow off and all that stupid shit.
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  All the slush. We do have a comment here asking about what the best zone to hunt in Iowa is.
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  I mean, it really depends on the time of year, I feel like, for that.
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  Me, personally, we hunt primarily the central zone, but I do play in the south
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  zone. I don't ever really go to the north zone ever. I don't.
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  I've never hunted the north zone, and primarily when I hunt the south zone,
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  it's for geese, and I hate geese.
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  So. You just hate what geese do to you. Yeah, no, no, no, absolutely.
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  We're, I would say we're just really fortunate about what we have in the central
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  zone and the amount of area that we have to hunt for ducks.
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  Well, we've got the biggest bodies of water to hunt.
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  Right. in the central zone, other than, you know, the Mississippi River that
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  runs through all three zones, and you have the Missouri River that runs just in the south zone.
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  That's, the Missouri River can be a lot of fun to hunt in the south zone,
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  and then Mississippi River can be very fun to hunt too, if you hit it right.
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  Obviously, it's not what it used to be, and it's not, it's not consistently
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  good anymore like it used to be. It's crazy how that's changed through the years.
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  We did have a couple guys from around here, though, that did go down there and
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  mash them up later on in the season.
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  And it looked like a good time. They shot quite a mixed, quite a mixed bag of stuff.
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  So that was kind of cool to see that. Yeah, a bunch of losers.
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  The other thing with Central Zone too, you got to think about the cities that we have in it.
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  Like those always hold geese because they think they're safe and then they're lovely little, you,
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  district ponds get all froze up and they're like, oh shit, we got to go somewhere else now.
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  I mean, I think almost all the major cities in Iowa that have a whole,
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  I'd say, 75% of Iowa's goose population is in the central zone.
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  So I would feel like if we had to pick a zone that's probably the best to hunt
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  right now, I would say central zone is probably your best zone to hunt.
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  For sure. Unfortunately.
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  Hopefully that changes soon. On the rate that we've been going,
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  I don't think there's a good goose zone in Iowa.
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  Not for us. We suck at killing geoses. Yeah, no kidding.
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  We can get back on topic here. I just figured we'd touch that while I noticed it.
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  I'm kind of looking at our notes here, and we got cutdowns versus J-frames.
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  Do you guys even carry any cutdowns on your lanyards? Either of you?
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  I don't. I've never even blown one.
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  You've never blown a cutdown call? No. They're a lot of fun to call it with.
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  They're so loud. Yeah, they're loud, but you can also get Pretty sweet on them,
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  too. I mean, that's what a lot of the guys use down south in the timber.
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  So they're not too, too loud where you can't use them in a timber because obviously
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  everybody down there uses a cut-down call, basically.
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  Right, no, but if you want them to be loud, like, you can rip.
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  Or you can rip them, yeah.
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  I think a cut-down has the best range out of any call there is.
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  But I just don't ever use a cut-down call. You gotta see that.
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  Oh, damn. Zach's coming at you right to the heart. But he's not wrong.
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  You can pull that up on the live, too.
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  I'm pretty sure we don't know how. Yeah, no, we can do it. Oh,
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  there it is. Whoop, there it is.
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  Zach just thinks I blow everything. That's actually his job.
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  That's why he gets invited. Yeah, no, that's the only reason he gets invited. Yeah, facts.
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  Oh, damn, Trace is even roasting me now, too. Oh, my gosh. No,
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  the acorn cow guys are here. They're back.
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  They're back. We are cooked. I think the poll they put up was very biased.
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  I don't think there was enough duck hunters that seen that post.
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  I don't think so either. Yeah.
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  No. And that really did come from like just that short conversation and that
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  podcast we had with them.
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  And I think if we were, were more specific and what band of duck you shot,
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  like, I think those numbers would have varied a little bit. I thought we actually did all right.
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  And that poll for like primarily being a bunch of, against a bunch of deer hunters only. Yeah.
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  Government goats.
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  High fenced deer. They got to give themselves the little timber tug.
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  Yeah. They're good to go. Swinging around in their tree.
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  Wow. Now we got both Embraer brothers in here. Oh, shit.
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  Well, let's go. Let's keep rolling along here. What we got next?
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  Goose calls? Yeah. Yeah. Just rolling right into goose calls.
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  I mean, it's pretty much the same exact questions with goose calls.
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  We do have short reads versus flutes.
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  I've only ever seen flutes on the internet, like watch people blow them on YouTube and whatnot. Yeah.
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  That's the last thing to comment.
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  Oh man. No, a flute is pretty fun to use.
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  It gets really deep and raspy, but you can't do the things you can do in a short read with it.
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  You can't go fast. You can't do all the stuff with it that you can with a short read.
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  It is cool to watch somebody with a flute, though.
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  No, it's awesome. It's crazy to think...
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  That that's all they used to use for years. And now you can't hardly.
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  I will say too, like the guys that can blow a flute call can blow it fast.
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  Like if I blew a flute call right now, I'd sound like an absolute fucking idiot.
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  But I might have to get one just so we can try it out.
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  Honestly, I just think that would be cool. I think, I think you,
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  I think Hunter Grounds has videos on YouTube of him running a flute call.
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  Yeah, it's nuts. Look him up because Tim Grounds is probably the best I'd say
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  all-around goose caller there ever was. Absolutely.
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  And his boy Hunter, he's won so many calling competitions in the competition
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  world and he can shred a flute.
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  That dude can rip. What are you guys using for goose calls? Brands? What do you got?
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  I just got a Bay Country Shore thing. That thing sounds pretty good.
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  It's a little bit deeper than my Malt Gear MG Rush that I usually use.
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  That's more my traffic or really far out geese kind of thing.
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  But that Bay country gets nice and soft and sweet with them.
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  Yeah, I haven't used that or tried your call out at all since you got that one.
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  Because you used to use the Malt Gear primarily, didn't you?
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  Yeah, and then I had a big Sean with, it's a flex call, like a rubber call,
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  and then it's got flex guts in it too.
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  Really? Yeah, it's really quiet, but oh my God, that thing, I used it last year
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  in the fog and you were just like, holy shit.
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  I will say that big Sean when you have geese close to
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  you like working you that thing sounds just so
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  sweet yeah like they just eat that shit up I need to get a new read for it so
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  I can actually use it because I've never split a read on a call and somehow
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  I I don't know if I got a stick stuck in it or what but it broke the shit out
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  of it I destroyed a one of my short read on my foils crime scene I had.
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  I completely, dude, the reed was shot. Like, it was split all the way to the cork.
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  See, like, if it was on my mold gear, I could see it because I'd blow the absolute
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  shit out of that thing, but I've never blown that call hard, ever.
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  We got grandpa. Grandpa does have a big Sean that sounds damn good.
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  He also needs a new reed for that thing because it's starting to sound like dog shit.
• 19:16
  That guy don't even goose on. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He just ice fishes.
• 19:21
  Anything to do with that side by side but he's in and to answer Trace's question
• 19:27
  I'll let you guys what's your favorite breakfast that we make in the boat dog
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  I'll tell you right now the burritos this year with the duck sausage,
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  absolute bangers even the maple was pretty good I was surprised by that I almost
• 19:40
  thought the maple was better than the spicy I would agree yeah it's a very close
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  comparison we had some damn good burritos this year.
• 19:49
  Holy shit. It's just some of Caged Trash falling over if you guys were under.
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  If you guys could hear that.
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  Oh, boy. It's really hard to beat a morning when you start out with cinnamon
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  rolls and then have burritos after that, for sure.
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  I don't know. I do like the old B's and G's with hash browns and bacon. I mean, that.
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  And even when we mix in eggs with it, too, that can be making a haystack out
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  of that. It's just hard to beat, too.
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  Zach said the maple duck sauce's burritos were the ticket. Yeah.
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  Yeah. The only problem with those is you would actually have to start selling
• 20:24
  burritos at the boat ramp because you could smell that shit from five miles
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  away, dude. Dude, that was insane.
• 20:28
  That maple smell in the boat last year. The first time we cooked it, I'm like, oh, my God.
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  Oh, it's nuts. When you were cooking it that day when it was snowing and Cade
• 20:36
  and I jumped out to clean off decoys, we're like trying to clean them off as
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  fast as we can because we were at the far edge of the decoys and we could still smell it.
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  So we're like running back because we were so
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  hungry ready to eat yeah we were waiting on you guys to get back i'm like hurry
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  up i'm starving oddly enough there were more than just us two in the boat with
• 20:54
  waiters on though i mean i was cooking uh crazy how that happens yeah who else
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  was with us that day i think daniel and was it curtis disco yep yep yep yep disco and,
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  skinny jeans you got skinny jeans uh so i'm back on the goose calls like i use
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  the North Line now by Joe Hines.
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  And since I bought that thing, I love it.
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  That thing, I can't blow a goose call as good as Cade, but I can rip it pretty good.
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  That's my main goal for this year is to get a little better goose calling.
• 21:28
  I mean, I can call in geese, no problem, but I want to sound better.
• 21:32
  Yeah, I can second that because I have a North Line as well from Joe,
• 21:36
  and I love that thing. I mean, I've only had it for...
• 21:40
  What like seven or eight months now and just from where i've started to where
• 21:44
  i've come to now has been a long ways for me personally but i really really
• 21:51
  enjoy blowing that call and how it sounds,
• 21:55
  hunter wants you to blow a call for him do you have your calls with you no because
• 21:58
  i brought the jeep mine are in that bag right there i have not blown that bay
• 22:03
  country i've never blown that thing before oh come on blow the mold gear i have
• 22:07
  blown the mold gear you can run out to my truck right now real quick and grab my north line.
• 22:11
  It's in the backseat. You can show the people what they want.
• 22:15
  Hey, let's relax, people.
• 22:17
  We want you guys to come back, not leave and never talk to us again.
• 22:22
  If you're scared, you could just say that.
• 22:24
  I will say, though, once I... Like, I had blown your north line a couple times,
• 22:28
  and once I retuned that thing, I was like, holy shit, that sounds really good.
• 22:32
  If I wouldn't have just blown or just bought that Bay Country,
• 22:36
  I definitely would have bought one right then and there. He did a really good
• 22:38
  job. I mean, it's very similar.
• 22:40
  I looked over the guts. They're very similar to the Malt gear setup.
• 22:43
  But he, I don't know, just from what I can tell it looks like he did a few things
• 22:46
  different, but either way did a great job with that call. I'm very pleased with it.
• 22:51
  I have to break in that Teemu microphone with a goose call.
• 22:55
  Break it in, boy. Break it in. I'm not fucking doing it. That's not happening. I'm not doing it.
• 23:03
  I'll be so embarrassed. That's part of the fun. You're going to be embarrassed
• 23:06
  either way. Nobody will respect us even more.
• 23:11
  What's our next line for goose calls? Is that it on the goose calls?
• 23:15
  Acrylic, poly, and wood. Yeah, we have acrylic, poly, and wood.
• 23:18
  And Cade, the other day when we were talking about calls, because I'm talking
• 23:23
  about getting a new lanyard and I'm talking about getting another duck call and everything.
• 23:28
  So I'm talking to Cade about it and I'm telling him what color I want.
• 23:32
  This dude swears that different color calls sound different.
• 23:37
  They do for a fact, dog. Why do you think that?
• 23:41
  This guy. Next time you're at foils, especially goose calls.
• 23:44
  Goose calls are the ones that I've always noticed. But if you pick up the same
• 23:48
  exact call, a black versus an ivory, it sounds way different.
• 23:52
  I don't really believe that.
• 23:54
  I would so disagree with that. Look at all the callers that call in competitions.
• 23:58
  They're always blowing a black call because they sound different.
• 24:01
  Maybe. I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying I have never in my life heard that.
• 24:06
  No, I just have a white call, so I'm just calling bullshit.
• 24:10
  I've even seen it like Bobby Heim.
• 24:14
  He's the same way. He's always got black calls on his laner, black calls on stage.
• 24:19
  He swears they sound different. I mean, maybe. I'm not here to say that that's
• 24:24
  not true. I'm just here to say that I don't necessarily believe that.
• 24:27
  I'm just saying, I think my white north line sounds better than his black,
• 24:33
  but maybe that's because I'm better than him, and you tuned in. Oh, dang.
• 24:39
  Yeah, you guys have the same call, right?
• 24:41
  Different colors? Yeah, but I haven't blown his white one. I'll make sure you
• 24:45
  bring it tomorrow when we hunt.
• 24:46
  All right. And I'll try it out, and I'll prove Cade wrong. And then we'll come
• 24:49
  back here, and I'll tune in both the exact same, and they'll sound different. No.
• 24:53
  Any of you guys in here? Don't touch mine, because I love the way that it sounds.
• 25:00
  And I don't want that to get fucked up. All right. Well, I'll tune his to yours,
• 25:04
  then. Yes. There you go. That's it.
• 25:09
  I'm getting yelled at from everybody not to fuck with their calls.
• 25:12
  The answer is yes. Yeah, I suppose I could probably dabble. What?
• 25:18
  August said it's due to the heat factor when it's made from what he's heard.
• 25:21
  I didn't even know that dude's a fear anymore. See? I'm not the only one that knows it.
• 25:26
  I'm honestly surprised you didn't know it. From what he heard,
• 25:30
  he can't hear us talking on the other end of the blind. What do you mean? He's too old anyways.
• 25:35
  Have I been getting any better at killing ducks at close range?
• 25:38
  Abso-fucking-lutely not.
• 25:40
  I don't know. You did kill that goose the other day. That was pretty close.
• 25:43
  That's not a duck, though.
• 25:44
  I know, but that's an even bigger target that should be harder for you to hit up close.
• 25:49
  No, because it's got more area that I can hit without missing. I don't know.
• 25:55
  Pretty sure the target range at 10 feet is still about the same on bull.
• 25:58
  It is. It's the same pattern, no matter what.
• 26:01
  Now that Pookie's out of here, we can really talk some shit. We can.
• 26:05
  What's our... He just leaves the door open like he's born in a fucking barn.
• 26:09
  Yeah, no. I just don't mind the heater just ripping now all of a sudden.
• 26:13
  So what's our, oh, we've got boats and motors next, don't we? We do.
• 26:17
  Ooh, the first one is manufactured boats versus plate boats.
• 26:20
  And that's a great one for you to speak on because you have both of them.
• 26:24
  I do have both of them. You do?
• 26:27
  I've had both, and I currently have both. I will say, a manufactured boat for
• 26:32
  the everyday person is probably more than good.
• 26:35
  Like, it's going to last you as long as you need it to last.
• 26:39
  Now, if you're going to beat the living dog shit out of it, jumping logs or
• 26:43
  just breaking ice and just using it and abusing it. That splattered me right in the fucking nose.
• 26:51
  The plate boat's going to be the better option. And honestly,
• 26:54
  you get more bang for your buck because you can spend the same money on a plate
• 26:58
  boat and get a way better built boat. Yeah.
• 27:01
  But it's going to take longer to get. You can't go to a, what is it called? Southern Mud?
• 27:07
  And then a couple other places around here. I don't know who actually sells
• 27:10
  boats nowadays, but you can go to a boat dealer and you can buy a John boat
• 27:14
  tomorrow and you could drive it home or pull it home. But you can't do that with a plate boat.
• 27:19
  I mean, you got to go to your builder and have him design it and then build
• 27:23
  it. my guy that I go through is like a year and a half, two years out. Shit.
• 27:29
  Well, hopefully you get to the point where you can start building yourself.
• 27:32
  That'd be ideal. Yeah, you gotta have a shop to do that for me.
• 27:36
  It's in the works. I'm about to be homeless, dude. I'm going the wrong way.
• 27:41
  I got this nice garage you can sleep in if you have to. I'm gonna cut a hole
• 27:45
  in my back fence and he's gonna park his camper in my backyard.
• 27:49
  Your neighbors would love that. Yeah, no, they would actually hate us.
• 27:53
  I feel like they already do.
• 27:55
  Maybe a little bit. Dude, I would hate living next to a state cop. That's crazy.
• 28:01
  Neighborhood's so safe. No, I'd imagine. Yeah. But I couldn't do anything illegal.
• 28:05
  No. Why would you want to?
• 28:08
  No, not that I would want to do anything illegal. It's just you never know what
• 28:10
  happens when you get started partying naked. Oh, God.
• 28:14
  So what about the difference or preference in or between flat bottoms, semi-V, or V-hole?
• 28:22
  Once again, that's going to apply to your situation you're in.
• 28:24
  I mean, if you're hunting a
• 28:26
  lot of shallow water, the flat bottoms are going to be your go-to on that.
• 28:30
  Then the semi-V is a flat bottom with a V front.
• 28:33
  So you can at least run some open water and it'll break the waves a little bit
• 28:38
  in the front so you're not just getting completely douched with water every
• 28:42
  time you hit a wave like a flat bottom does.
• 28:44
  I don't know. Your boat still soaks me every time I hit a wave.
• 28:47
  Every single time. Maybe that's just the operator. It's no. Well,
• 28:51
  then I guess it's fucking both of us.
• 28:55
  Once again, maybe it's just the operator. God damn.
• 28:59
  It does. That boat sits just low. It's got low sides. So you are going to get
• 29:02
  a little wet in that boat compared to.
• 29:03
  You've also never ran it with the almost 900 pounds of decoys in it.
• 29:07
  Yes, I have. You have? Yeah. Oh.
• 29:10
  And I have never. I've gotten like a little wet when there's three foot waves, but that's it.
• 29:16
  No, he's never ran it for an extended period of time with it because the day
• 29:20
  that he had to come back and pick me up, all the decoys were out of it.
• 29:23
  So that's a considerable amount of weight.
• 29:25
  He doesn't get it. I have ran it for all the decoys in it. No, no.
• 29:28
  Fuck too. I went out scouting a couple times this year in that boat by myself.
• 29:33
  Probably a 10 mile an hour away. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Anyways.
• 29:37
  Then you got the V-holes, which is what my big boat is. It's a V-hole,
• 29:41
  but I've only got a four-degree hole, so it's got a four-inch rise from center.
• 29:45
  And that thing will break the waves amazing and to break ice the best out of
• 29:49
  all three options that's the only boat that will break ice consistently and
• 29:52
  we can break on the very high side you can break 5 inches of ice but it does
• 29:57
  not like breaking 5 inches of ice,
• 30:00
  dog we were breaking like 7 yeah it still doesn't like it and I prefer to only
• 30:06
  do about 5 inches I'd say fucking 4,
• 30:09
  yeah I mean there were a few times we were going through some ice that it would
• 30:13
  go up on and then break through a little bit later. Yeah, seven days later.
• 30:18
  Or we just get stuck on top of all the ice. Yeah, there's that.
• 30:22
  You are also one of the only guys from around this area that specifically run
• 30:28
  two boats for your setup, too.
• 30:31
  Yeah, there's a lot of guys that run multiple boats, but it's just because they
• 30:35
  are running a mud motor and they don't want to load it down too heavy with people.
• 30:38
  Yeah. So, I mean, they'll run three or four boats just because of that.
• 30:43
  But not because they have 1756 that's overflowing with decoys. Yeah, there's that.
• 30:50
  It's not overflowing. It's pretty
• 30:52
  fucking close. See, the tarp holds everything and they're just fine.
• 30:56
  That's a lot of decoys and a lot of weight for that boat. Yeah. No, it's not.
• 31:05
  What else do we have here? Oh, I'm really curious about this because I don't
• 31:11
  know a lot, But jackplates and kickplate utilization.
• 31:18
  Well, let Cade speak on that a little bit, because this is kind of like his
• 31:20
  first year of running a boat with a jackplate.
• 31:23
  Dog, I will never own a boat ever again without a jackplate.
• 31:26
  That thing is an absolute lifesaver. That makes a world of difference. Yeah.
• 31:31
  Makes an outboard viable for the way we run them. Yes, absolutely.
• 31:36
  Without that jackplate, you're not going to go many places, period.
• 31:40
  No. Not around here. I mean, even, even when we're at winter pool,
• 31:43
  you're still just not going to have a good time.
• 31:46
  No, cause there's been times that I'm following you at whatever the hell you're
• 31:49
  running 50 mile an hour and all 63.
• 31:54
  Yeah. Well, not usually with five guys in the boat, but. No,
• 31:57
  it does 62 with five guys in the boat.
• 31:59
  Yeah, no, I, I opened it up this
• 32:01
  year with five guys in it and we were at 62.57 or some shit like that.
• 32:09
  It's not stupid. It's fun. But there has been times like we'll run up into a shallow hole and I'll,
• 32:15
  It's three o'clock in the morning, not using my brain. I'll feel the motor drag
• 32:19
  and I'm like, oh yeah, shit. I got a, I got a plate back here. I can move real quick.
• 32:23
  Yeah. Usually before we hit in that, I'm reaching back and cause my,
• 32:26
  on the big boat, like the jack plate switch is not in as good a spot as it is on the little boat.
• 32:31
  When you're sitting down on that little boat running, it's just kind of right
• 32:34
  there on the big boat. It's mounted to my tiller handle.
• 32:36
  So I got to grab the front of the tiller handle with my right hand and then
• 32:39
  reach back and turn that thing up all the way.
• 32:41
  But I'm just used to it. So it's just a creature. I'm just a creature habit now with it. Yeah.
• 32:45
  Um, I'm getting used to it now. Like when I know we're getting into shallow
• 32:49
  spots, I'm like, okay, I got to pick the plate up or I'm going to absolutely fuck myself.
• 32:53
  It is really nice to have that plate on it though, and be able to run that little
• 32:57
  boat so comfortably with that plate down and everything. And then just to get
• 33:02
  to those more shallow portions of it and just run it up.
• 33:05
  And then that boat with that motor on it, you can still get it on plane so fast
• 33:10
  that it's, I mean, really, it's still just a comfortable ride in it,
• 33:14
  but just the functionality of it alone is super nice.
• 33:18
  Yeah, I feel like that boat with the jackplate is almost, I mean,
• 33:23
  like, you can't baha out of sushi. Oh, God.
• 33:28
  You can't baha out of, like, sand and shit because you'll fuck the impeller
• 33:31
  up, but I mean, as far as, like, getting on plain and shallow water,
• 33:34
  I feel like it's almost the exact same as having a mud motor with that jackplate on it.
• 33:38
  I mean, we can go, we can get up and go pretty much everywhere a surface drive can go.
• 33:41
  You know, a long tail, I mean, around here, A long tail's not going to go any
• 33:44
  farther than a surface drive because we got too hard of a bottom.
• 33:47
  But we can go pretty much everywhere they go. Now, it might take us a little bit longer to get out of,
• 33:53
  there when we get there but but i've said it before that thing
• 33:56
  does like your boat does 60 something the
• 33:59
  little boat does 50 i mean you make up your
• 34:01
  time times like seven yeah no i've passed plenty of people that have left the
• 34:07
  same time i did and i have to put out for a half a mile yeah and then get on
• 34:11
  plane and we catch them before they get to the ramp and it's really not that
• 34:14
  far of a run no well just that day that it was me you and newendorp and i couldn't like the only time,
• 34:20
  I couldn't get the little boat on plane because all the
• 34:23
  water had blown out with that like 37 mile an hour wind but as soon as we got
• 34:29
  like it took me longer to get out of the hole than it did after we got out to
• 34:34
  get back to the ramp yeah yeah and I'm like wow this is stupid that's how it
• 34:39
  works then it doesn't matter where you're at like that's.
• 34:43
  It kind of sucks though because I I messed up the little boats prop and the
• 34:47
  big boat this year too I messed up both props myself because I got back to the
• 34:52
  boat ramp and clipped some rocks with the little boat that day and it really messed with the blades.
• 34:57
  And then the big boat, I was putting the boat on the trailer and I got rocks
• 35:00
  in the prop on the trailer. Not good. No.
• 35:05
  Stop throwing rocks from the boat ramp to test the ice. For the love of God.
• 35:11
  It should be a rideable offense. Yeah, it should. Jail. Straight to San Quentin.
• 35:20
  Dude, your phone vibrates like crazy. Dude, I'm sorry. I'm a popular person.
• 35:24
  For one, it never stops going off. And for two, the vibrate on that thing is
• 35:28
  like fucking out of this world.
• 35:30
  I feel like you got that vibrate set like extremely high for a reason.
• 35:32
  If you guys are wondering, the Raiders beat the Chiefs, so somebody should probably
• 35:36
  check on your brother-in-law.
• 35:38
  Yeah. Because he's going to hear about it for the next couple months.
• 35:42
  Someone's going to have to check on Neuendorp too.
• 35:44
  He's going to be bad too. He should be in here. Neuendorp, are you okay? Okay.
• 35:49
  Uh-oh. Ooh. Ooh. He might not be okay. He's not coming. Oh, no.
• 35:54
  What do we got next? You just said he had a snap. Mud motors against outboards. Ooh.
• 36:00
  Ooh. The hot topic for dad over here. Hold on. You love mud motors, right?
• 36:07
  He just said, no, I'm not okay.
• 36:11
  No, Chris. No. New and Dorp's not allowed on those days when we have extracurricular activities.
• 36:17
  He's, Newendorp's not very ambidextrous. Yeah, he's just, we tried it one day,
• 36:23
  and it just did not go well.
• 36:24
  So, Tyler, have you read that new comment yet? That's the one I'm responding to. Yeah, no.
• 36:29
  Yeah, we don't let him, he just, I don't know, those nubs just don't do the trick.
• 36:38
  No, I want to hear your opinion about all these outboards that we hear all day
• 36:44
  long while we hunt, running back and forth. With outboards, you don't hear very
• 36:48
  many of them. Sorry, mud motors.
• 36:49
  Mud motors. My fault. I mean, we have mud motor races, not outboard races.
• 36:54
  I mean, I get it. I get why the guys have them. I mean, it's way easier.
• 37:01
  It's way easier to get to the places we go to and everybody hunts with the surface
• 37:06
  drive, especially if you don't know how to run a boat that well on an outboard.
• 37:10
  Now, you can do it with an outboard. It can cost you a little more money in
• 37:13
  the long run to do it with the outboard setup, but I think they last longer
• 37:16
  and they're way more reliable than that lawnmower engine.
• 37:19
  That is the big problem with the surface drive is it is a lawnmower engine straight up.
• 37:26
  Like there's no question about it. It's a lawnmower motor.
• 37:29
  I know we both know two guys personally that well one guy his motor didn't even
• 37:34
  make it to duck season and blew up and then the other guy blew up his motor
• 37:39
  what within the first two weeks of season? Yeah it was two weeks about.
• 37:42
  So I mean That was fun, wasn't it? Dad, that was really fun.
• 37:47
  Oh, yeah, that's right. You were there the day that one of them blew up.
• 37:50
  I was. If that wind would have been blowing the opposite way and we could have
• 37:53
  got on the opposite bank that we ended up on, it would have...
• 37:56
  Actually been all right. We'd have been fine. You know, the last time I,
• 38:00
  I didn't break down, but I ran out of gas in the boat.
• 38:03
  I launched at one ramp, ran all the way up in the boxcar, and then there was
• 38:07
  lights everywhere. I said, screw this. I'm by myself.
• 38:10
  Turned around, ran all the way back down the lake, and I was getting close to where I wanted to go.
• 38:16
  And it started sputtering and then died. I'm like, shit.
• 38:19
  So I pulled the motor cover off. I'm like, what is going on here?
• 38:21
  Because I didn't have my fuel gauge hooked up because I just unhooked it for
• 38:23
  some reason. Einstein. Yeah, not a good idea.
• 38:27
  And then I realized I was out of gas. So I just floated into a spot and I ended up killing my six ducks.
• 38:33
  Every time I killed my six ducks, another guy brought me gas and I was good to go. Left all the good.
• 38:39
  Zach with the humdinger. You know what else he runs out of?
• 38:43
  Propane. Yes, he does. Back. More than one time now we're on this kick.
• 38:48
  This is why he doesn't have friends.
• 38:51
  I will say if Zach would have just had waterproof coat that day,
• 38:56
  he would have been in a lot better situation though.
• 38:59
  Yeah, I can relate because I've hunted out of that boat with a waterproof coat
• 39:02
  that doesn't have burn holes in it. And it's a lot different.
• 39:05
  Yeah. I mean, you know, when you know it's going to rain, you'd think you'd
• 39:08
  come prepared to hunt in the rain. At least in my defense, I tried.
• 39:12
  I just didn't really have a choice when I found out at nine o'clock the night
• 39:15
  before that my coat was burnt. Yeah, no, dude, you were cooked from the beginning.
• 39:20
  But then Neuendorp shows up in a hoodie and a vest. Yeah, that was not a great move.
• 39:25
  Yeah, and then he's sitting over there next to me shivering the whole time. I felt bad for the guy.
• 39:31
  And then you guys wanted me to pick for a leave, and I'm like, guys, I'm dry.
• 39:35
  Don't ask me. I'll hunt all day. I'm not uncomfortable. That was cold.
• 39:40
  I will say running your little boat back when I had...
• 39:45
  That guy sounds like a deer hunter. Look at that guy. Oh, fuck,
• 39:49
  he's here. Grandpa's here.
• 39:52
  God damn talking all that shit and then he just shows up that's why you don't talk to him about it,
• 39:59
  I really gotta hide my location he's probably got fucking air tags on my shit
• 40:02
  too yeah probably but running your little boat back when it had that boss on
• 40:07
  it was really really fun too that thing was just so touchy,
• 40:13
  that like when you went you went yeah no that thing was it was a lot of fun
• 40:19
  to run but it was not as fast as it needed to be. No, it was slow.
• 40:23
  Yeah. Compared to what you have now. It only did like 35-40. Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:28
  You get worse and worse looking every time I see you.
• 40:33
  Isn't it though? I get it.
• 40:37
  It's all right. Now we have stalkers. We have stalkers showing up for us now. I love it.
• 40:47
  It must be camera shy. He knows right where that camera's at.
• 40:50
  Yeah. I mean, he's just standing right off the camera. That's crazy.
• 40:54
  Got the door open, letting the heat out. I'm all he's leaving. Look at this guy.
• 40:59
  Oh, fuck. He's about to flip me over.
• 41:02
  Be a lot cooler if he did. No. No. Be kind of funny. How about no?
• 41:08
  He was talking about them calls. It's a plastic. So Doug Hess, you know who he is. Yeah.
• 41:14
  He said it depends on the blank and the color of the blank. Give me your mic.
• 41:18
  Yeah. He said, yeah, why don't you, here, why don't you take this seat?
• 41:24
  You know what you're talking about. I got to use the bathroom anyway.
• 41:27
  Shocker. That's like the 55th time he's used the bathroom tonight already.
• 41:30
  That dude has a bladder the size of a fucking peanut. If bad.
• 41:34
  I don't even know if it's that big.
• 41:36
  That's what happens if you have real small tools to deal with.
• 41:40
  On that one, you got to crawl right up on it. Like this close.
• 41:44
  You're getting there. Yeah. Yeah. No, he deep throats it. Austin deep throats it, but he's a pro. So.
• 41:49
  What I heard. That's why you guys like hiding with him. He's definitely better
• 41:53
  than Nguyen Dorp, that's for sure. Nice. Nice. Nice.
• 41:57
  Is that kind of his profession? That's his way to contribute since he can't
• 42:01
  use a call? It is. Yeah. Nice. That's how he keeps the spot. It is indeed. Cool.
• 42:06
  So the way that that was explained to me on your, your, your,
• 42:12
  the calls. Yeah. The colors.
• 42:14
  Black obviously is more dense the way that Doug explained it to me,
• 42:20
  but the whites, purples.
• 42:22
  All that sort of stuff is how it's treated in that blank, you know,
• 42:28
  will vary from call to call.
• 42:30
  And it's no different than wood. wood if you know if you got a chunk of hedge
• 42:34
  you know this this chunk of hedge will be different from another chunk of hedge
• 42:41
  even though it's cut from the same tree right you know it'll be it'll be different
• 42:45
  from call to call he said actually you'll have a run of calls that all tune real easy.
• 42:49
  And in the next the next chunk of calls
• 42:52
  that comes out of that other wood he said he'll fight all day
• 42:55
  long trying to do it yeah yeah no
• 42:58
  the like when i've always used when i used to use wood a lot it
• 43:00
  was always coca bola sure that that that was to me the
• 43:03
  best sounding wood call you could get back then even actually
• 43:06
  even now i'd say it's probably one of the better sounding duck calls or yeah then
• 43:10
  my i can't remember what the name of that wood was that
• 43:13
  he he got with some kind of special and that stuff
• 43:15
  was just absolutely ridiculously hard was it
• 43:18
  morning that you know that's that at your
• 43:23
  age i will yeah my age is a little different but that's
• 43:27
  why i have a young girl because that's the only way i can keep that stuff
• 43:30
  up oh my goodness
• 43:34
  but yeah so that's that's
• 43:38
  what it was explained to me uh because it was funny because like you said you
• 43:42
  can grab one call that's man i think just the minute you pick it up you're just
• 43:46
  like oh this is it i'm buying it i don't care what the cost if it's 300 bucks
• 43:51
  whatever yeah i'm gonna have it forever the next call you pick up.
• 43:56
  It's like, whoa, I wouldn't give you $10 for it. Yeah.
• 44:00
  I think there's a problem with us waterfowlers. It's like, oh,
• 44:02
  I'll buy this one. I'm going to use this one forever.
• 44:03
  And then you see another one like within the next year and you're like,
• 44:06
  oh, you know what? I kind of like that one too. Right. I'm going to buy this one. Right.
• 44:09
  You know, too, when you guys were talking about calls and, you know, I ran into it years ago.
• 44:15
  I mean, it's not so much now, but guys would buy, you know, Buck Gardner shell
• 44:22
  calls right off the shelf.
• 44:23
  And they're like, oh, I want to learn how to blow a duck call.
• 44:25
  I'm like, well, listen, if you're going to, that's great and all if you want
• 44:28
  to go spend 20 bucks and buy a duck call.
• 44:30
  But man, spend, you know, 50, 60 bucks, get something that somebody's actually
• 44:37
  made and take the time, not production.
• 44:40
  And then, I mean, that's my opinion, but production call.
• 44:42
  Yeah, you can make it sound good, but it's not, you can't do the things with
• 44:46
  it. Like you can't do something else.
• 44:48
  But like when I was mentioning the, the buck gardener call, like that double
• 44:52
  nasties, like that was a call that me growing up, I could grab it off the shelf.
• 44:55
  And I could rip it right out of the box.
• 44:58
  Almost every one of them on the double nasties. He was a whole different guy all in himself.
• 45:03
  That guy could make a duck call. Did you ever meet him?
• 45:08
  I did not ever meet Buck Gardner personally. He was a big dude.
• 45:11
  Yeah. Yeah. He was a big guy. But, I mean, he would tell you anything you wanted
• 45:17
  to know about duck hunting, duck calling, I mean, anything.
• 45:22
  And he would be, we needed more guys like him nowadays.
• 45:26
  Yeah. I mean, Jeff is a lot like him when it comes to work with him.
• 45:30
  If you ever see Jeff Foyles at a show, and you just stop by his booth and talk
• 45:35
  to him, even if you don't have one of his duck calls, nine times out of ten,
• 45:38
  if he's not just swamped with people, he'll tune that call for you,
• 45:41
  no matter what the brand is, and he'll help you out with it.
• 45:45
  You know, a guy that tunes goose calls, it's kind of, I think he knows what
• 45:49
  he's doing, but I think he does.
• 45:51
  I couldn't remember when he couldn't hardly blow a goose call.
• 45:54
  Yeah, no shit. That was like when I first started hunting with you.
• 45:57
  That was absolute dog shit, dude. That kid's come a long ways, though.
• 46:03
  I don't know, 10 years, I've done it with you? Yeah, pretty close.
• 46:07
  Close to 10. Something like that? Yeah.
• 46:08
  That big mud ordeal out there. Oh. White rest that time.
• 46:14
  Stepping in six inches of mud,
• 46:17
  and then below that six inches of mud was nothing but just muck. Oh, man.
• 46:23
  Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, before the water gets on top of that stuff,
• 46:25
  that mud sucks. No, that was the spot that we found the geese the other day. Yeah.
• 46:31
  It never gets hard. We're at?
• 46:35
  Oh, yeah. No, that spot. They don't ever get any more water on it.
• 46:40
  It's that depth all year long. You guys never got into some of that hunting
• 46:45
  in that area. I think we all know where it's at.
• 46:48
  So back when I first started hunting that, back during the big war.
• 46:52
  Back in Nau. I was running around back then.
• 46:58
  Great Depression for sure. Yeah, that's how Great Depression started.
• 47:03
  But that it was a, it was that whole back area was nothing but all cattails.
• 47:09
  Well, I didn't have a dog back then. So I had to shoot my ducks like close.
• 47:15
  Cause if, if you had any kind of wind or wall, nah, you wasn't going to retrieve them.
• 47:19
  Yeah. Cause I mean, you was literally, I would sit there and rock into that
• 47:23
  mud and get down to about hip deep. So I could be level.
• 47:27
  Cause I mean, you were only talking that much water, but you'd be four foot
• 47:30
  of mud. Oh, it was, it was horrible.
• 47:32
  So you just bury yourself in the hood? Just bury myself in the hood.
• 47:35
  No, thank you. I'm not doing that. But you had to.
• 47:38
  Was that back in like the wax wader days or what? Dude. They didn't have waders back in the beginning.
• 47:44
  If you never had rubber ball waders, a red, red ball rubber waders,
• 47:48
  what they were, they were, they were called red ball rubber waders.
• 47:52
  And that's, oh my God, they sucked.
• 47:56
  So here you got, you know, I hear some people just complaining about, you know,
• 48:01
  You know, man, all my feet are cold in these 1200 grand Thinsulate waders boots.
• 48:05
  And, oh man, I just don't know how I can, how I can stand to hunt out here all
• 48:09
  day long in this heated boat. And my feet are cold. Really?
• 48:13
  Really? You never been, you never hunted in rough waders. Why are you looking at me?
• 48:17
  So you've been around long enough that you've seen the kind of evolution of waders.
• 48:22
  Do you remember, so going from like, when we first got neoprene waders,
• 48:27
  that was like the biggest hunt because they were so warm, right?
• 48:29
  Yep. Everybody loved them. And now looking at what we have now,
• 48:33
  everybody's going to these shins and Sitka waders and dive bombs.
• 48:36
  We're back to what we started with. No insulation in waders other than the boot.
• 48:40
  Okay. So the difference, I mean, here again, in my opinion, is the rubber, we had La Crosse.
• 48:48
  They was a big brand back then. I mean, obviously, they're still a big brand.
• 48:51
  They're still huge, yeah. I think they make the boots for the shin waders. Do they? Mm-hmm. Okay.
• 48:56
  As long as they're on the waders, right, they're not that big of a deal. Yeah.
• 49:01
  And then people use felt soil waders.
• 49:04
  I mean, they still do it now for fishing, but the, the old rubber,
• 49:11
  rubber waders, canvas waders, the thing that they sucked about the canvas,
• 49:16
  that was loud. Oh, really?
• 49:20
  Oh, my God. My God. So the, the, the canvas waders, they were so hard to get
• 49:26
  on and off because they were, I mean, it sucked. Yeah, no, they were a pretty stiff material. Yeah.
• 49:32
  But these breathable waders, man, for, I mean, I'm not a fat guy,
• 49:37
  but I ain't the skinniest guy
• 49:38
  in the world, but they're 10 times easier to get on. At least you know.
• 49:43
  I'll own it. I'll own it. Hey, what I want to know, every time that I've hunted
• 49:48
  with you in the last, I shit you not, 10 years. Yeah.
• 49:52
  Who's the, who's the first one that asked for a little bit of heat?
• 49:55
  I can't hear you. I imagine he's probably the really old guy.
• 50:00
  I shit you not. We'll legit park the boat and he's like, I'm a little heat, boys.
• 50:05
  That's okay, August. It's usually between Cade or Pookie over there.
• 50:09
  It's usually Pookie. Who asked that for the heat?
• 50:12
  It's usually Pookie. No, it's usually Pookie. Usually. But Cade did turn his
• 50:17
  heater on first a lot this year.
• 50:19
  I did. I mean, if you got it, you might not use it.
• 50:22
  Yeah, because I'm sweating. That's why. No, it's because this motherfucker runs
• 50:27
  out of propane all the time.
• 50:29
  I hear an ongoing trend here. You know what's crazy, though,
• 50:34
  is both of these people have moving vehicles that operate down the highway, right?
• 50:39
  We also have propane tanks sitting right here. Or you could just bring the propane
• 50:44
  or ask, hey, is the propane tank full?
• 50:46
  Oh, I don't know. There's one time that I did make the mistake of saying we're probably good.
• 50:50
  Other than that, they're more than capable of going out there and filling a
• 50:53
  propane tank and bringing a propane tank.
• 50:56
  But on the private side of that i would rather run out of propane than i would
• 51:00
  boat gas you know i've been there and done that too yeah yeah we had to come
• 51:05
  across lake red rock one time,
• 51:07
  me and phil and i'm back i'm back there with the with the with the gas tank
• 51:12
  tipping it making it making it lean right to where the pickup tube is oh man
• 51:19
  i just don't run out of gas waves are breaking over the bow of the boat.
• 51:22
  And I'm like, this was not going to end well.
• 51:26
  But getting back to your wader thing, like these breathables and the way that
• 51:30
  all that, I mean, it's kind of like anything. The way that duck hunting has
• 51:35
  evolved since I first started.
• 51:37
  500 years ago. So what you guys have got now is, I mean, it's made it better.
• 51:47
  It's definitely made it better through the years. I mean, the gear has gotten...
• 51:50
  10 times better in the past 10 years. 20 times better, I'd say. Yeah. I mean, it's cool.
• 51:57
  Yeah. I mean, when we had it in snowstorms, like more owners can sink it out in the cold.
• 52:04
  Yeah. No, I mean, it's way easier to go out there in the cold on them brutal
• 52:08
  days that nobody would be out there on. Yeah.
• 52:10
  Now you see people out there, and it's not just the diehards.
• 52:13
  There's a couple just random people out there, too. You guys,
• 52:16
  I mean, you got heated coats. You got heated socks. You got heated gloves.
• 52:20
  I mean, you got all that stuff at your... What the fuck are you looking at me for?
• 52:24
  You just got all that stuff here recently.
• 52:29
  God damn. Nah, it's fine. Just let these two. Let these two. Oh, John.
• 52:36
  You're leaving me again?
• 52:40
  You left me with Pookie the first time. What do you got? Are you an outboard guy or a mud motor guy?
• 52:47
  Oh, boy. What's that saying?
• 52:51
  Situation dictates purpose yeah i mean there again so if you're hunting a lake,
• 52:59
  and you're hunting deeper water outboard i mean all day what about an outboard with a jack plate,
• 53:07
  okay so so okay if
• 53:10
  you're gonna run an outboard and you're running in a lot of cabbage you get
• 53:15
  you i don't care what what you got for a prop i don't care what you got for
• 53:19
  jack play it's going to get wrapped up right so i and dad says no it does not
• 53:27
  get wrapped up like a mud motor does,
• 53:29
  no if you're if you got if you're,
• 53:33
  If you don't have 5,000 horsepower. Who the hell has 5,000 horsepower?
• 53:38
  I don't know. The funny guy in the hat right next to me.
• 53:42
  Not 5,000. I don't have any money. We just went over this. I haven't worked. 300 horsepower. Okay.
• 53:48
  343. What? 343. Yeah. Has that been dino proven? 100%. Okay. Fuck.
• 53:57
  You know, we're in our race shop. So, I mean, horsepower gets stowed around
• 54:01
  pretty liberally. No, it's a former race shop.
• 54:03
  Yeah, this is not an active race shop currently.
• 54:06
  Maybe soon. Maybe not. This is the fucking podcast.
• 54:11
  If you got, okay. You got an outboard that's got 300 horsepower and a normal guy.
• 54:18
  Oh, Jamal. That's got an outboard that's got a 25 horsepower motor.
• 54:24
  He's got, and this goes back, stems back from back in the days when I used to
• 54:29
  hunt at Corville. There was a little place called Round Pond.
• 54:32
  We had to wait for guys to, with big motors to go through the bust up all the
• 54:37
  cabbage and everything, because at that time, all we could afford was a little nine, nine.
• 54:41
  Yeah. And it would just get wrapped up and couldn't go nowhere.
• 54:44
  Yeah. I mean, this was before even the invention of mud motors, but.
• 54:48
  Yeah. So, yeah, I, if you got enough horsepower to get through that stuff, great.
• 54:53
  But little guys, you know, it's a struggle. Yeah, but.
• 54:59
  Hunting the big reservoirs nowadays, it seems like we always have high water
• 55:02
  in the spring and the middle of the summer, so we don't ever have the vegetation we used to.
• 55:06
  Yeah, and you're not wrong. So, I mean, was it two years ago, three years ago maybe?
• 55:12
  We had such good vegetation. Like the grass grew up, the willows grew up,
• 55:17
  cattails, the whole nine yards grew up really well.
• 55:20
  And you're right. I mean, the smaller horsepower mutters don't go through it
• 55:23
  as well, but the one nice thing about an outboard is you throw it in reverse
• 55:26
  and you hammer on it reverse once And it does, compared to a surface drive or any kind of mud motor.
• 55:33
  I've never, I mean, I can't say never, but there's very few times that I've
• 55:38
  never gotten somewhere that I couldn't get with an outboard.
• 55:42
  Like if I, if I want to get there bad enough, you're going to get there. I'm going to get there.
• 55:48
  I mean, there's been times that, that, that I can remember, you don't remember the old duck boat.
• 55:54
  It was a 1460.
• 55:57
  And this guy is still shitting his diapers back then? This thing was him.
• 56:00
  Definitely. You were talking about a tank. This was made out of plywood. It was a plywood line.
• 56:06
  I mean, it was so stinking heavy. But we would push.
• 56:11
  I would be behind the boat pushing. A buddy of mine would be up on the front pulling with a rope.
• 56:16
  My dad would be up in the boat with a push pull outside of pushing back behind
• 56:22
  us, trying to get us through the mud.
• 56:24
  And as we're going across the mud, we're leaving tracks through the mud because
• 56:29
  you can see where the boat was sliding around the bottom. And right now.
• 56:33
  Yeah, would it be great to have a mud motor back then? Probably.
• 56:36
  But would a mud motor have gotten that heavy of a boat through that situation? Probably not.
• 56:41
  No. Yeah. So how bad do you want to go to where the ducks are at?
• 56:46
  It doesn't matter what you got for a motor. You're going to want to get there.
• 56:50
  Depends on your drive to get there. Yeah, that's right. I mean, yeah.
• 56:53
  The personal willpower goes a long ways compared to a mechanical object.
• 56:57
  It goes further than any motor possibly can. Well, Cade knows,
• 57:02
  but a buddy of ours, Judd, we was actually hunting white breasts.
• 57:07
  I had a 14 foot canoe. This is a true story.
• 57:11
  I had a 14 foot canoe and we was on one side of white breasts,
• 57:14
  literally watching ducks dump in by the hundreds on the other side.
• 57:18
  There's two and a half, three foot white caps going across white breasts.
• 57:24
  And we look at each other and we're like, well, the ducks want to be over there.
• 57:28
  They don't want to be where we're at.
• 57:30
  So here we go. The canoe, we throw like six decoys in this canoe and we start
• 57:37
  paddling across white brush. Waves are breaking over the side of the canoe.
• 57:40
  We go over there, shoot our ducks.
• 57:43
  15, 20 minutes later, we're done for the day. Now, to any listeners,
• 57:47
  I don't recommend doing that because I really don't feel like coming and rescuing you.
• 57:52
  Yeah, we're out hunting the next day and we find out that somebody fucking died.
• 57:56
  But there again, it goes right back to how bad do you want to,
• 57:59
  how bad do you want to get your ducks?
• 58:02
  You know, that's, but the safety stuff that is out today, you know,
• 58:07
  life jackets that will, I mean. Inflate when you have water.
• 58:10
  Yeah. But I mean, that's, if you don't have that stuff in your boat nowadays,
• 58:16
  I mean, it's, that's a no brainer. Yeah.
• 58:19
  Interesting fact on the, on the life jackets out hunting our spot.
• 58:24
  North you know where we go you get pulled over by dnr dnr says if you're hunting
• 58:30
  here you have to wear your life jacket while you're hunting got a ticket for
• 58:35
  it which game warden we'll talk about south dakota no you don't i i that's my argument so i mean.
• 58:46
  Yeah that's exactly yeah i know the game wardens up there very it wasn't tyler,
• 58:52
  No, there's another guy. Taylor?
• 58:54
  What was his name? It was the old guy with the glasses. It was the old guy with the glasses? Yeah. Nah.
• 59:00
  I'm dead, sir. It was inside the boat, just going up and down,
• 59:03
  him and his buddy. I usually bribe him a little bit with stuff, too.
• 59:06
  Yeah. So I'd bring him this soda from back home and give it to him.
• 59:09
  And, dude, he would leave us alone immediately.
• 59:13
  Yeah. Because we give him that soda every year, and he's just happy to see us.
• 59:16
  Because he'd be happy to pull us over.
• 59:18
  And we always got checked. He'd go through the boat, check the safety equipment,
• 59:20
  make sure we had everything. Yeah.
• 59:22
  And then he's like, you got any of that, you got any of that ski in the truck?
• 59:26
  Yeah, yeah, dude, I got a case of it. He's like, is that for me?
• 59:30
  Go ahead and take that and he's like i thought so so so he'd always stop at the truck and grab that,
• 59:35
  boxes of christmas tree cakes and he's like nah he
• 59:38
  don't he don't want for that trick i tried it once it didn't work out
• 59:40
  so i got arrested would that be a bad idea then if you offered him alcohol while
• 59:45
  you were out hunting yeah no i think that would probably be a bad idea yeah
• 59:48
  that would that would not go away i wanted to make sure that wasn't out i feel
• 59:52
  like i feel like you probably don't want to show you have alcohol in the boat
• 59:54
  whenever you're uh i mean highly front pump so pop, then that's the way to go.
• 59:59
  You have to sing the link on that.
• 1:00:01
  It's really expensive if you order it online.
• 1:00:04
  It's got to be cheaper than the ticket. Depends on what ticket you're getting.
• 1:00:12
  Oh, boy. All right. Well, you kids have fun. It's been fun. Thanks for stopping by.
• 1:00:20
  Just got back from ice fishing. We were talking a bit about you ice fishing,
• 1:00:24
  not shooting geese. You know what? We're not shooting geese either, so it's okay.
• 1:00:30
  Walleye tastes better. I'm just telling you. You never had the duck and goose
• 1:00:34
  the way I do it, have you? No. No, so you can't say that.
• 1:00:38
  I don't know how you do duck and geese. Like, it's hard to beat walleye on night. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:45
  Walleye from 30 foot of water in the wintertime when they're 18, 20 inch walleye.
• 1:00:49
  I mean, that's candy. Dude, we all know somebody lied to you about six inches
• 1:00:53
  anyway. They're not fucking 18 or 20. That's right. This is six inches all day long.
• 1:00:59
  Oh my God.
• 1:01:03
  Yeah. That way they're never disappointed. That is fair. Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Did you only have inflatable life jackets in the boat?
• 1:01:12
  That yes we only had inflatable life jackets in
• 1:01:15
  the boat whenever you got stopped so you probably
• 1:01:18
  had regular life jackets too didn't you i did but here
• 1:01:22
  is another thing their life jackets like the inflatable ones make sure i mean
• 1:01:28
  and this might be a no-brainer to some people but some people i mean if you
• 1:01:32
  order them like off amazon or timu you know anything like that your favorite
• 1:01:37
  website Because you're trying to save money,
• 1:01:39
  make sure they're U.S. Coast Guard approved. Yep.
• 1:01:42
  Because. That's a big one. Yeah. Because they're not. They're not. That is an automatic.
• 1:01:46
  Yeah. That's a deal. But. I would say to his comment though that if they are
• 1:01:50
  the inflatable life jackets, you probably do have to have them on no matter
• 1:01:54
  what because that's not a life jacket you can grab.
• 1:01:57
  And throw. As you're sinking and put it on. Like you have to have that on to hunt.
• 1:02:01
  So I would say to answer that question, yeah, you would need to have.
• 1:02:04
  If you run in only those life jackets, you need to run with those on at all
• 1:02:08
  times when you run in the boat.
• 1:02:09
  And in that rate, if you only have those, you're probably supposed to hunt with
• 1:02:11
  those on, too. I don't know. If I'm not mistaken.
• 1:02:14
  If the boat's not moving, you don't have to have a life jacket on.
• 1:02:17
  See, and that was what my argument is. It's like, okay, wait a minute.
• 1:02:20
  I'm stationary. I'm sitting. Like, what's the deal? And he's like,
• 1:02:24
  nope. If you're hunting, you have to have a life jacket on.
• 1:02:28
  And I don't know. Now, this could be another thing. It could be a South Dakota
• 1:02:31
  law. Well, is that not regulated?
• 1:02:35
  Is that U.S. Coast Guard regulated water up there in that part?
• 1:02:40
  Or is that controlled by the state?
• 1:02:43
  Because I know on the Mississippi River, there are certain parts of the Mississippi
• 1:02:47
  River that are U.S. Coast Guard regulated. No, that's a federal waterway.
• 1:02:51
  Some of it. There's certain sections through that.
• 1:02:55
  Where you were and where you would be hunting in that area, it's all federal
• 1:03:00
  water. Up there? Yes. Okay.
• 1:03:02
  So, but is that U.S. Coast Guard regular? That would be U.S.
• 1:03:06
  Coast Guard laws. Yeah. It's not state mandated laws. It's federal.
• 1:03:10
  So the Coast Guard's federal. What you're saying is the nice little orange plate
• 1:03:14
  that I got on my boat, I probably need to make that go away.
• 1:03:17
  Or that little plate that says,
• 1:03:20
  this horsepower or this boat is only ready for this many horses. Yeah.
• 1:03:24
  Let's look up for those. But if you take it off, you can get a ticket for not
• 1:03:27
  having it off. Unless in Iowa here, you can just turn it for an O-R. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:03:32
  Right. Yeah. No, I just, I did.
• 1:03:36
  I've been telling you to call us. Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  Pookie says we need to get our local state conservation guy on here,
• 1:03:43
  but he's entirely too scared to call him.
• 1:03:45
  I think he's our only guy now, isn't he? No, he's still.
• 1:03:51
  He's retiring soon, though, isn't he? I thought it was after December 31st.
• 1:03:55
  I thought it was December 31st, yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Is he really? Yeah, and they're not filling his position, so it's just Hoffman. Really? Yep.
• 1:04:03
  I thought they weren't.
• 1:04:05
  Oh, never mind. They are filling his position. Austin lied to us the first time.
• 1:04:09
  Yeah, I would say if you're going to run the inflatable life jackets,
• 1:04:13
  I would definitely wear those at all times running the boat.
• 1:04:15
  If you have either the old orange ones, like just the standard ones,
• 1:04:19
  you don't need to wear those.
• 1:04:21
  Or if you have the sport ones, I think when it comes to waterfowl hunting,
• 1:04:24
  I think the old orange ones, the standard cheap ones, are probably your best
• 1:04:27
  option for when you're wearing your waders and everything because you can get
• 1:04:31
  to everything easier and they fit just easier.
• 1:04:34
  But if you have the inflatable ones that are going to inflate when you hit water,
• 1:04:37
  I would be wearing those at all times. Otherwise, you can get on at all times.
• 1:04:40
  I think when you're sitting, you're fine. But when you're running the boat,
• 1:04:42
  you need to have those on.
• 1:04:44
  Make sure they're outside of your coat, not inside your coat.
• 1:04:46
  Yeah. They need to be on the top layer of everything.
• 1:04:50
  Because I can see that happen. I mean, you can't believe seeing that.
• 1:04:55
  Right. It's not fucking normal that went north of Highway 2.
• 1:05:02
  This guy. The guy just shooting this guy, shooting darts from left field out there.
• 1:05:05
  I know it. I don't, I don't get what I was going to give you a bag of walleye,
• 1:05:09
  but no, no, not no more. Screw that.
• 1:05:12
  Damn. I hope you don't have window tent.
• 1:05:16
  You're screwed. You better drive now. Yeah. Get out of here.
• 1:05:23
  Well, I suppose I'll give this back to Pookie. Pookie. Pookie.
• 1:05:28
  Pookie bear. Pookie. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:30
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the guy but no thanks
• 1:05:33
  for letting me chime in yeah i
• 1:05:36
  don't know why you were gonna just try to hang out by the door and not yeah
• 1:05:39
  just well i just i was actually gonna peek in the door and just moon you that's
• 1:05:44
  what i was gonna that would have been pretty funny it's a good thing you don't
• 1:05:47
  have windows because he'd just be sitting there at the window still just scratching
• 1:05:50
  at the window i would have probably just been like like a cat or something we
• 1:05:53
  just see him on the computer just.
• 1:05:59
  Yeah yeah,
• 1:06:02
  That's what I should have done. We wouldn't have been able to see it,
• 1:06:04
  though. That is much light reflection.
• 1:06:05
  That's one thing he just pointed that way. Let me think about it.
• 1:06:07
  One thing when we're doing these podcasts, you should pull up the stream on the TV.
• 1:06:10
  Oh, yeah. You could see it. Oh, dude. And then just have it muted.
• 1:06:14
  And then you can see everything so much better. It's genius.
• 1:06:17
  Hey, quick thing while I'm in the garage.
• 1:06:20
  That $10,000 deal. Oh, man.
• 1:06:24
  Is that check still valid or is that not? No, it's void. It's void. Okay.
• 1:06:29
  No, it's void. I didn't know how that worked out.
• 1:06:34
  All right, guys. God damn. Hey, pull him over when he leaves.
• 1:06:40
  Good chatting with you, Tyler. Cade, for sure. Yeah, well, hopefully see you never.
• 1:06:46
  You guys stay gay. That's all I can ask. Can you grab me one on your way back?
• 1:06:53
  Oh, boy. All right. Good travels home. Yeah. Have fun. I spent the rest of the year.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah, I don't think we're going to be doing that much around here.
• 1:07:02
  No, the ice is too. We was clear. Down by the chickens. Fuck the hood house.
• 1:07:07
  Yeah, we was eight hours north of here. Oh, boy. Yeah. We drove. So fun fact.
• 1:07:13
  That nice brand new side by side I got. Uh-huh. We got three miles out on the ice.
• 1:07:18
  And I shot it off and went to start it back up to leave. And it fired up, died.
• 1:07:24
  Fired up, died. Check engine light comes on. I'm like, are you kidding me?
• 1:07:29
  Out here in three miles on the ice in the middle of nowhere. wearing this thing.
• 1:07:33
  So me and Polaris, we were going to have a, have a little chit chat session.
• 1:07:38
  Did you get it back home? Yeah. It fired back up. Check engine light stayed on the whole way.
• 1:07:43
  I would have, I would have cut a hole and just sunk that fucking thing.
• 1:07:45
  No, I've already been through the ice at once. That is not any fun.
• 1:07:50
  Two insurance claims are no good. Yeah.
• 1:07:53
  Yeah. It wouldn't even be, it'd be less than a year. Yeah.
• 1:07:57
  Yeah. Yeah. That would be, that was a bad.
• 1:08:00
  Not good. Yeah. No, that wasn't. but i went off a lot of
• 1:08:02
  fun the first time i don't recommend all right
• 1:08:06
  guys have a good one yeah you too get your
• 1:08:08
  spot back kooky come on what kind of what kind of blow through the rest of this
• 1:08:13
  yeah i don't really think we have a whole no that's it no honestly we can just
• 1:08:19
  do that you can just we can just see the closing thoughts for the people listening
• 1:08:23
  and the people that don't know that are watching that was august bock.
• 1:08:27
  Didn't really introduce him when he sat down. He just instantly started talking
• 1:08:30
  shit. Yeah, no. You gotta just run with it at that point in time. He's a natural.
• 1:08:34
  So, one thing we didn't discuss yet was, like, we'll just go straight to longtails and surface drives.
• 1:08:41
  So, like, I don't have any experience with longtails, but I know our boy Cade does a little bit.
• 1:08:45
  You can't even classify that as a longtail, dude. It's a fucking seven-horse motor.
• 1:08:50
  It's still a longtail. Bro, that thing rips.
• 1:08:53
  It does. It does. I'll get that. So, like, what are the benefits of having a
• 1:08:56
  long tail compared to a surface drive?
• 1:08:58
  What's that? Here? Nothing. Yeah.
• 1:09:02
  Nothing. There's no benefit. Like, in a normal circumstance?
• 1:09:05
  I don't know, because I've never used a long tail in a normal,
• 1:09:08
  like, mud motor circumstance.
• 1:09:11
  That motherfucker has a big-ass head. Yeah, he does. These things are, like, swimming on me.
• 1:09:16
  I've never used it in, like, an actual mud situation. I've always just kind
• 1:09:21
  of, like, it's just what I had.
• 1:09:24
  And then I guess, does anybody have a specific brand of a mud motor compared to outboard?
• 1:09:32
  Mud motor and outboard brands that they like? Obviously for me, it's Mercury.
• 1:09:38
  Outboards. If I'm going to choose an outboard, it's going to be a Mercury. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:09:42
  Kind of what he was saying too with the weeds getting wrapped around the prop.
• 1:09:47
  Didn't Mercury come out with the snout on the lower unit? Doesn't it have...
• 1:09:53
  There's no separation between the prop and the housing?
• 1:09:56
  No, the prop actually goes up inside the housing. On certain models,
• 1:10:00
  not all models yet, but on most models the prop goes into the gear case a little
• 1:10:04
  bit. Like a quarter inch.
• 1:10:05
  Which is plenty. Because that's the, like the whole problem with the old outboards
• 1:10:08
  is that there's a gap in between the prop and the housing.
• 1:10:13
  Right. So naturally shit gets wrapped in there. Yeah. But if you have the housing
• 1:10:17
  go over the prop, that doesn't happen. Yeah.
• 1:10:19
  So if you were to choose a mud motor, whether it's between ProDrive,
• 1:10:23
  Gator Tail, or Mud Buddy, which one are you going to run with if you were to buy a motor tomorrow?
• 1:10:27
  If I was to buy a motor tomorrow, I would go with the Gator Tail for sure. Yeah.
• 1:10:32
  I don't know, those new Mud Buddies, have you seen the new 5400 and the new
• 1:10:35
  trailer handle that came out? They're pretty sick.
• 1:10:37
  They look nice. Obviously, it's the first year they've been out,
• 1:10:39
  so time will tell how they run.
• 1:10:41
  But you hear a lot less of problems with the Gator Tails than any other one.
• 1:10:46
  Yeah, no, if I was, I'm the same boat, if I was to go buy one tomorrow,
• 1:10:49
  it would be a Gator Tail. Yeah.
• 1:10:50
  Just because of the reliability aspect. Yeah. The full power reverse on the
• 1:10:54
  ProDrive is badass, but. Yeah, no. And again.
• 1:10:59
  There's, ProDrive has its ups and downs. I think there's, if you're looking
• 1:11:03
  for an all-around mud motor, I don't think ProDrive is there.
• 1:11:05
  But if you're looking for something like you want to build a backup and backup
• 1:11:09
  easily, the ProDrive is your best option for reverse. Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  Without a doubt. But the problem is you add more of that shit to the already
• 1:11:17
  somewhat complicated system. I mean, that's just more shit that fails.
• 1:11:21
  We never have problems during hunting season. What are you talking about? Never. Not one.
• 1:11:28
  Dead batteries lights going out you name it we got it yeah we've had all the
• 1:11:33
  problems dead batteries no lights no propane fucking all of it once again full
• 1:11:38
  cords breaking we are all grown men and we have debit cards here so we can go
• 1:11:42
  or credit cards you can go buy propane on your credit card for all I care my wife checks that,
• 1:11:50
  before we close things out I figured we'd open it up to the comments see if
• 1:11:53
  anybody had any questions comments concerns on topics we've discussed in the past or even tonight.
• 1:11:59
  We'll give it, I don't know, two or three minutes here and see if anybody has
• 1:12:02
  anything to ask us or wants us to touch on before we kind of keep rolling with the closing thoughts.
• 1:12:10
  But it's been a fun podcast. It's probably been one of the more fun ones we've had in a while.
• 1:12:14
  Yeah, I feel like the, obviously, as you guys could tell, that was a very unplanned
• 1:12:19
  guest appearance. He just showed up out of nowhere.
• 1:12:22
  Just opens the garage door and says, Sup, fuckers. That was a blast.
• 1:12:27
  No, that's good, though.
• 1:12:29
  I mean, August is a dude that's done it for a long time.
• 1:12:33
  He's been around. He's seen a lot of things. And, I mean,
• 1:12:37
  hunted in a lot of different places, a lot of
• 1:12:40
  different circumstances so it's really good to get his point
• 1:12:43
  of view on everything he is like very
• 1:12:46
  much of that old school type hunter still like
• 1:12:49
  i mean and that's how he's always going to
• 1:12:52
  be but that's why we love him like that's
• 1:12:55
  that's what he is that's that's why we give him shit
• 1:12:58
  still the cool thing is too like i'm pretty
• 1:13:01
  sure he's done it since he's like 10 years
• 1:13:04
  old and now i think he's 50 something so he's
• 1:13:07
  seen a lot of shit and seen all of it come and go too
• 1:13:10
  right he hasn't for a long time uh that's it's
• 1:13:13
  always cool to talk to those guys that have done it forever yeah uh we have
• 1:13:16
  we have a question here from trent labarge hard blinds versus soft blinds i
• 1:13:22
  personally have hunted out of only one soft blind in my life and it i mean it
• 1:13:27
  works but you cannot to me my personal opinion you can't hide them near as well
• 1:13:31
  and they're not near as warm.
• 1:13:33
  No, a hard blind is 10 times warmer for sure.
• 1:13:37
  But if you got a small boat, like a, I'd say 16 footer and less,
• 1:13:42
  a soft blind's your ticket just because of weight in general.
• 1:13:46
  Like you can, you have a pop-up soft blind, you can run that on any.
• 1:13:52
  Size boat really and not worry about the weight as near as much as a hard blind
• 1:13:56
  hard blinds heavy and wind drag is a big thing too yep and that's something
• 1:14:00
  like we've talked about it before as far as like grassing your blind i feel
• 1:14:04
  like if you do a soft blind you can get away more with doing just like the synthetic
• 1:14:08
  grass to where it's it's all lightweight shit and then i mean,
• 1:14:12
  cover up with a little bit of whatever you're sitting in whether that's grass
• 1:14:16
  or willows or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:14:18
  I mean, the soft blind too, like that grass is, it's really easy to put on.
• 1:14:22
  Yeah. I mean, absolutely.
• 1:14:23
  Even if you lose some, it's you, most spots you hunt, you can get that stuff.
• 1:14:27
  Right. Whether it's cattails or ditch grass or Phragmite. Yeah.
• 1:14:30
  Add it to it and then you brush right in yep but
• 1:14:34
  if i'm gonna pick a hard blind or a soft blind it's gonna
• 1:14:37
  be a hard blind every day just because of warmth and everything else but but
• 1:14:41
  they weigh a lot like well they can weigh a lot depending on the model you go
• 1:14:43
  with i build i build aluminum blinds all aluminum and they they're a lot lighter
• 1:14:49
  than the old conduit yeah for sure.
• 1:14:55
  Jason, we'll touch on it, our go-to shot size, but this will be a topic next
• 1:14:59
  week as well we are going to touch on.
• 1:15:01
  We're going to keep the ball rolling with the apparel and gear,
• 1:15:04
  and then we'll have this week boats and motors and calls.
• 1:15:08
  Next week will be ammunition and shotguns and that kind of stuff that we use throughout the year.
• 1:15:15
  But my go-to shot size personally is the two-shot, and I use it for everything, ducks and geese.
• 1:15:20
  I don't know if you guys are the same way. I only use two-shot as well.
• 1:15:24
  I either shoot a two or a two-four stack. The two-four stacks are...
• 1:15:28
  Oh, he's got money, money.
• 1:15:29
  Yeah. Yeah, dog, I saved those for the high wind days or the days that I know
• 1:15:34
  I'm going to be shooting them at 50.
• 1:15:38
  That's every day. But no, that's a good question. I mean, that is going to be
• 1:15:42
  the topic next week, though, is ammunition and different brands of shotguns.
• 1:15:46
  I know it's going to be part of it. We wanted to keep kind of that series rolling here.
• 1:15:50
  That should be a really good episode, too, I feel like that's a...
• 1:15:53
  There will be a lot to talk about through that.
• 1:15:57
  If anybody's got anything else, now's your time to comment.
• 1:16:01
  Otherwise, I think we'll just keep rolling through our closing thoughts.
• 1:16:04
  We only have three more weeks of goose hell left in Iowa.
• 1:16:08
  It has been a goose season to forget for us. Dog, I'm starting to think I got
• 1:16:12
  one more week of it. Yeah.
• 1:16:14
  There are three more weeks of legal goose hunting. Now, I won't be hunting three
• 1:16:19
  more weeks. I have tomorrow and probably Saturday, and then my goose season's over. I'm done with it.
• 1:16:26
  I think I would just do the same thing. Like, Saturday will be my end-all deal.
• 1:16:29
  I might hunt Tuesday, too.
• 1:16:30
  Because I'm going to be home Tuesday. So, depending on how well we do tomorrow,
• 1:16:34
  I may hunt Tuesday still.
• 1:16:35
  He's lying. After you leave, I'll be able to convince him. Get him out. Just him and I. For sure.
• 1:16:41
  Well, the problem is, once he leaves, we'll find a badass feed.
• 1:16:45
  And it'll actually be cold enough that you can get in the field.
• 1:16:47
  And I'll be like, hey, thanks for taking the trailer keys.
• 1:16:51
  This whole week is going to be warm. So, that's one week I'll be gone.
• 1:16:54
  Because I leave Tuesday.
• 1:16:56
  Hopefully a truck is down. Yeah, but I don't, I don't count that because I wouldn't
• 1:16:59
  be able to hunt this week anyway. I wouldn't be able to hunt until Saturday.
• 1:17:01
  We're hunting Saturday regardless. You're gone the next weekend though.
• 1:17:05
  Yes. So, you can go to the South Zone and hunt? You got one more weekend without me.
• 1:17:11
  Nah, we'll figure it out without him. What, what,
• 1:17:16
  He had a turd in his pocket, evidently.
• 1:17:19
  While we're on the goose hunting topic, we did finally get a date for Goose
• 1:17:23
  Wars, and we are in the process of getting our team together,
• 1:17:27
  but that is coming up this weekend. I am very much looking forward to that.
• 1:17:31
  Whether we kill geese or not, competition's always fun.
• 1:17:34
  No, yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun, and I'm kind of excited of the camaraderie
• 1:17:41
  that it brings, too, And I think that we're going to put together a really good
• 1:17:45
  team and have, have a good time.
• 1:17:47
  That was my finger on your, on your ball. I was like, what the hell are you throwing?
• 1:17:52
  Yeah, I agree for sure. And I always think that's a cool thing.
• 1:17:56
  Like we always, all of our groups kind of like, we all know each other.
• 1:17:59
  So we kind of talk shit all that day and just meeting at that bar and doing
• 1:18:05
  the check-in at the end of the day and everybody hanging out and having beers and just chilling.
• 1:18:09
  That's, that's honestly the coolest part of Goose Wars to me. Yeah.
• 1:18:13
  The coolest part to me is a part of the three of us and we hunt together almost every single day.
• 1:18:20
  But like the days, right, the days that like Tyler's not here and maybe Kate
• 1:18:26
  has to work and then or vice versa. And we venture out and kind of hunt with other people, too.
• 1:18:33
  And then we bring all of those people together for like one last hurrah at the
• 1:18:37
  end of the year. So we're maybe like Tyler hasn't hunted with somebody yet this
• 1:18:41
  year that we decide to put on our team.
• 1:18:45
  It, it kind of just brings the whole group together. And I like that.
• 1:18:50
  Yeah, no, we always, we always have a good time no matter what.
• 1:18:54
  Whether it's random people going or not. It's fun to bring new people and it's
• 1:18:58
  fun to get somebody that hasn't done it very often out there too,
• 1:19:01
  especially if you get on a good hunt.
• 1:19:02
  It'll maybe even get them hooked on it and they want to do it long term.
• 1:19:06
  Yeah. And I feel like this year, like knowing it was coming,
• 1:19:09
  we kind of saved a little bit more energy than we normally would for that.
• 1:19:13
  I haven't hunted in the past like three days. Exactly. I'm pretty rested.
• 1:19:17
  I'm ready to hunt tomorrow. I'm kind of looking forward to it.
• 1:19:19
  Yeah, no, I'm pretty excited to hunt tomorrow. I'm like.
• 1:19:23
  You're right. I don't think you could have said it any better.
• 1:19:26
  Like I'm really excited for goose wars now, but like when we knew that it was
• 1:19:30
  going to happen, like what, what was it like a month or two ago to have just
• 1:19:34
  kind of like been waiting and waiting and waiting for it to set that date to
• 1:19:38
  like finally get all this together and actually do it. Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  I'm pretty sure everybody gave up on it until I texted you guys last night. I got the date.
• 1:19:47
  Yep. But no, I think this week everybody goes back to work. I mean,
• 1:19:51
  we got one more hunt tomorrow, me and you, and then I go back to work Tuesday,
• 1:19:56
  but maybe not until the end of the day.
• 1:19:58
  So I might hunt Tuesday morning, but that'd be by myself or maybe some random person.
• 1:20:03
  Some rando in Iowa waterfowlers or what? You never know. I've been known to
• 1:20:07
  put up a post. I know. Invite random people.
• 1:20:10
  And I met a lot of friends that way. I met everybody in Iowa, really.
• 1:20:13
  I wouldn't know anybody here if it wasn't for probably Iowa waterfowlers,
• 1:20:17
  honestly. Yeah. So met a lot of people that way.
• 1:20:21
  I think that about does it for this week, though. I mean, do you guys got anything
• 1:20:26
  else that you want to add here as we close it out?
• 1:20:29
  I don't think so. I feel like we did a better job than normal of just touching
• 1:20:32
  on what we had when it was there.
• 1:20:35
  Yeah, no, we covered a lot of stuff tonight.
• 1:20:39
  This is our longest episode. Yeah, today. But I think we're going to have that
• 1:20:44
  with doing live streams and people commenting.
• 1:20:46
  Thanks for helping us grow. Look forward to that. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:20:49
  We do have one more comment that just popped up here.
• 1:20:53
  Appreciate it, Hunter.
• 1:20:55
  Thanks for joining in tonight. We're going to wrap this one up.
• 1:21:01
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• 1:21:34
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• 1:21:38
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• 1:21:42
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