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The Migraine Game · Sports History Network

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  Derek,
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  when
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  we
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  look
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  back
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  at
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  the
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  history
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  of
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  the
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  NBA
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  and
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  all
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  the
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  great
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  teams,
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  I
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  think
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  we
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  often
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  jump
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  to
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  the
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  80s,
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  where
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  we
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  have
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  Magic
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  in
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  the
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  Lakers
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  and
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  Bird
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  and
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  the
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  Celtics,
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  and
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  then
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  it
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  kind
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  of
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  feels
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  like
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  we
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  transition
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  right
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  into
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  the
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  90s
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  glory
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  years
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  of
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  those
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  Chicago
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  Bulls
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  and
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  Michael
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  Jordan.
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  But
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  there
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  was
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  a
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  team
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  bridged
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  the
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  gap
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  between
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  the
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  greatness
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  of
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  Bird
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  and
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  Magic.
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  And
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  would
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  you
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  call
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  them
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  a
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  sandwich
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  team?
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  I
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  would
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  call
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  them
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  a
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  sandwich
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  team.
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  Something
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  like
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  that.
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  A
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  kind
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  of
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  a
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  lunch
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  pail
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  team,
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  maybe
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  you
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  could
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  say,
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  even
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  on
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  more
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  than
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  one
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  reason.
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  So
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  that
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  is
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  the
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  Detroit
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  Pistons,
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  and
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  that's
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  what
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  we're
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  talking
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  about
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  today.
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  Specifically,
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  we're
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  going
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  to
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  dig
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  into
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  the
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  migraine
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  game,
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  which
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  was
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  game
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  seven
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  of
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  the
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  Eastern
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  Conference
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  finals,
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  and
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  we'll
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  talk
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  about
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  the
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  team.
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  All
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  that
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  next
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  on
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  the
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  mixtape.
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  All
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  right.
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  All
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  right,
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  Derek,
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  here
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  we
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  are.
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  We
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  are
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  back.
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  And
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  Derek,
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  what's
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  your
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  earliest
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  or
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  what's
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  your
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  memory
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  in
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  terms
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  of
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  how
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  you
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  felt
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  about
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  those
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  19,
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  let's
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  call
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  it
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  late
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  80s,
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  early
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  90s
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  Detroit
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  Pistons
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  teams?
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  Hated
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  them.
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  Yeah,
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  I
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  was
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  a
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  Bird.
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  I
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  mean,
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  I.
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  I'm
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  a
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  Bird
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  guy.
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  I've
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  always
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  been
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  a
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  Bird
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  guy.
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  They.
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  They
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  took
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  it
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  away
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  from
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  the
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  Celtics
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  and,
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  you
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  know,
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  Bird.
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  By
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  the
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  time
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  that
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  the
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  Pistons
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  kind
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  of
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  began
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  to
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  gain
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  in
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  power,
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  Bird
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  was
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  pretty
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  much
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  done.
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  The
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  back
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  had
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  pretty
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  much
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  ruined
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  the
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  rest
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  of
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  his
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  30s.
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  So
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  for
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  me,
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  I
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  just
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  despised
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  them.
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  I
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  hate
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  the
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  way
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  they
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  played.
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  Maybe
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  admired
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  from
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  afar,
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  but
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  I
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  hate
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  the
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  way
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  they
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  played
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  well.
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  And
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  you
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  could
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  probably
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  argue
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  that
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  the
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  Pistons
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  didn't
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  help
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  Birds
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  back.
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  He
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  may
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  have
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  been
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  able
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  to
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  get
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  another
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  half.
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  Half
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  season
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  or
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  full
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  season
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  probably.
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  But,
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  you
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  know,
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  I
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  wasn't
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  a
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  Bird
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  fan
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  by
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  any
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  means.
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  I
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  wasn't
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  an
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  MJ
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  fan,
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  really.
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  I
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  mean,
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  tons
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  of
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  respect
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  for
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  their
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  game
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  and
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  loved
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  watching
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  them
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  and
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  their
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  teams
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  play.
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  At
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  any
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  chance,
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  I
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  did
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  love
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  Magic
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  and
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  I.
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  And
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  I.
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  And
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  I
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  kind
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  of
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  got
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  enthralled
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  by
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  the
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  Lakers
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  during
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  my
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  early
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  NBA
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  fandom
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  in
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  the
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  80s.
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  And
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  the
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  Pistons,
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  though,
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  I
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  think
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  what
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  sticks
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  out
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  to
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  me
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  about
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  them
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  was
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  just
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  the
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  whole
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  bad
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  boys
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  image
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  and
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  just
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  feeling
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  like
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  how
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  this
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  team
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  is
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  embracing
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  this.
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  I
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  mean,
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  almost
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  what
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  was
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  framed
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  as
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  dirty
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  way
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  of
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  playing.
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  And
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  maybe
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  that's
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  being
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  too
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  polite
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  to
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  it.
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  Maybe
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  flat
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  out
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  a
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  dirty
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  way
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  to
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  play.
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  But
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  nonetheless,
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  it
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  was
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  kind
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  of
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  the
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  NBA
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  at
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  that
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  time.
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  I
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  feel
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  like,
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  again,
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  not
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  that
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  they
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  were
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  getting
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  away
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  with
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  everything,
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  but
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  I
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  feel
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  like
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  a
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  lot
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  of
• 2:46
  the
• 2:46
  stuff
• 2:46
  looking
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  back
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  on
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  those
• 2:47
  Pistons
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  games
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  at
• 2:48
  that
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  time
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  now
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  would
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  probably
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  result
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  in
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  multi
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  game
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  suspensions
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  versus
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  then
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  where
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  the
• 2:56
  dudes,
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  you
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  know,
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  it
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  was
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  just
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  Lambert's
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  second
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  foul
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  of
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  the
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  game
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  when
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  he
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  just
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  slammed
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  someone
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  into
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  the
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  ground
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  or,
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  or
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  whatever.
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  So
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  I
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  don't
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  know
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  that
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  in
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  my
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  mind
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  those
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  Pistons
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  teams
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  were
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  a
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  very
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  small
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  blip
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  too.
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  You
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  know
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  what
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  I
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  mean?
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  It
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  felt
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  to
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  me
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  like
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  you
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  went
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  directly
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  from
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  Bird
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  and
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  Magic
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  to
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  mj.
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  But
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  when
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  you
• 3:17
  look
• 3:17
  at
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  those
• 3:18
  teams,
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  they
• 3:18
  were
• 3:18
  in
• 3:19
  the
• 3:19
  finals
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  three
• 3:19
  years
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  in
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  a
• 3:20
  row.
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  They
• 3:22
  were
• 3:22
  dominant.
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  Really.
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  When
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  you
• 3:23
  look
• 3:23
  at
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  those
• 3:24
  three
• 3:24
  years
• 3:24
  of
• 3:25
  the
• 3:25
  Detroit
• 3:25
  Pistons,
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  of
• 3:26
  course,
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  the
• 3:27
  year
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  we're
• 3:27
  talking
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  about
• 3:28
  now,
• 3:28
  and
• 3:28
  we're
• 3:28
  going
• 3:29
  to
• 3:29
  get
• 3:29
  into
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  a
• 3:30
  little
• 3:30
  bit
• 3:30
  of
• 3:30
  the
• 3:30
  Pistons
• 3:31
  season,
• 3:31
  but
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  specifically
• 3:32
  focus
• 3:33
  on
• 3:34
  game
• 3:34
  seven
• 3:34
  of
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  Eastern
• 3:35
  Conference
• 3:36
  finals
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  against
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  Chicago
• 3:37
  Bulls.
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  But
• 3:40
  this
• 3:40
  is
• 3:40
  really
• 3:40
  their
• 3:41
  swan
• 3:41
  song
• 3:41
  to
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  some
• 3:42
  degree.
• 3:42
  I
• 3:42
  mean
• 3:42
  this
• 3:42
  is
• 3:43
  really
• 3:43
  kind
• 3:43
  of
• 3:43
  the
• 3:43
  end
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  their
• 3:44
  run.
• 3:45
  Not
• 3:45
  that
• 3:46
  they
• 3:46
  were
• 3:46
  completely
• 3:47
  irrelevant
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  next
• 3:48
  season,
• 3:48
  but
• 3:48
  it
• 3:49
  was
• 3:49
  kind
• 3:49
  of
• 3:49
  a
• 3:50
  quick
• 3:50
  decline
• 3:51
  for
• 3:51
  most
• 3:51
  of
• 3:52
  those
• 3:52
  guys.
• 3:52
  Some
• 3:52
  of
• 3:52
  that
• 3:53
  may
• 3:53
  had
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  do
• 3:53
  with
• 3:53
  the
• 3:53
  style
• 3:54
  that
• 3:54
  they
• 3:54
  played
• 3:55
  because
• 3:55
  if
• 3:56
  anything,
• 3:57
  Boston
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  kind
• 3:58
  of
• 3:58
  dished
• 3:58
  it
• 3:59
  right
• 3:59
  back
• 3:59
  at
• 3:59
  them
• 3:59
  at
• 4:00
  any
• 4:00
  given
• 4:00
  chance.
• 4:00
  You
• 4:01
  might
• 4:01
  even
• 4:01
  argue
• 4:02
  that
• 4:02
  Boston
• 4:02
  kind
• 4:03
  of
• 4:03
  created
• 4:03
  them
• 4:04
  because
• 4:04
  Boston
• 4:05
  played
• 4:05
  very
• 4:05
  physical
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  hard
• 4:06
  as
• 4:07
  well.
• 4:08
  And
• 4:08
  then
• 4:08
  just
• 4:09
  that
• 4:09
  style
• 4:09
  of
• 4:09
  play
• 4:09
  might
• 4:10
  eventually,
• 4:10
  you
• 4:10
  know,
• 4:11
  caught
• 4:11
  up
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  some
• 4:11
  of
• 4:11
  those
• 4:12
  guys
• 4:13
  and
• 4:13
  eventually
• 4:14
  led
• 4:15
  to
• 4:15
  the
• 4:15
  end
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  that.
• 4:15
  But
• 4:16
  those
• 4:16
  Detroit
• 4:17
  Pistons
• 4:17
  teams,
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  think
• 4:18
  when
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  look
• 4:18
  back
• 4:18
  on
• 4:19
  it
• 4:19
  and
• 4:19
  you
• 4:19
  think
• 4:19
  they
• 4:19
  were
• 4:19
  there
• 4:20
  three
• 4:20
  years
• 4:20
  in
• 4:20
  a
• 4:21
  row,
• 4:23
  one
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  those
• 4:25
  really,
• 4:25
  I
• 4:25
  mean
• 4:25
  this,
• 4:26
  this
• 4:26
  one
• 4:26
  we're
• 4:26
  talking
• 4:26
  about
• 4:27
  here
• 4:27
  was
• 4:28
  almost
• 4:28
  just
• 4:28
  domination
• 4:29
  when
• 4:29
  they
• 4:29
  got
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  finals.
• 4:30
  You
• 4:31
  could
• 4:31
  argue
• 4:31
  that
• 4:31
  in
• 4:32
  1990
• 4:33
  or
• 4:33
  the
• 4:34
  89,
• 4:34
  90
• 4:35
  NBA
• 4:35
  season
• 4:37
  that
• 4:37
  the
• 4:38
  true
• 4:38
  best
• 4:39
  two
• 4:39
  teams
• 4:39
  probably
• 4:40
  met
• 4:40
  each
• 4:40
  other
• 4:40
  in
• 4:41
  that
• 4:41
  Eastern
• 4:41
  Conference
• 4:42
  final.
• 4:42
  Yeah.
• 4:43
  And
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  thing,
• 4:44
  Go
• 4:44
  ahead.
• 4:44
  You
• 4:45
  know,
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  thing,
• 4:45
  the
• 4:45
  reason
• 4:46
  we
• 4:46
  wanted
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  pick
• 4:46
  this
• 4:47
  game,
• 4:47
  you
• 4:47
  know,
• 4:47
  we,
• 4:48
  we
• 4:48
  kind
• 4:48
  of
• 4:50
  looking,
• 4:50
  we,
• 4:50
  we
• 4:51
  talked
• 4:51
  about
• 4:51
  doing
• 4:51
  the
• 4:52
  entire
• 4:52
  Pistons
• 4:53
  like
• 4:53
  season
• 4:54
  run,
• 4:54
  had
• 4:54
  what
• 4:55
  have
• 4:55
  you.
• 4:55
  But
• 4:55
  like
• 4:56
  this
• 4:56
  game
• 4:56
  was
• 4:56
  the
• 4:57
  catalyst
• 4:58
  for
• 4:59
  what
• 4:59
  happens
• 5:00
  for
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  rest
• 5:00
  of
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  90s
• 5:01
  with
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  NBA
• 5:02
  because
• 5:02
  it's
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  swan
• 5:03
  song
• 5:03
  for
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  Pistons.
• 5:04
  They
• 5:04
  do.
• 5:05
  They've
• 5:06
  beaten
• 5:06
  the
• 5:06
  Bulls
• 5:06
  three
• 5:07
  straight
• 5:07
  years.
• 5:08
  You
• 5:08
  know,
• 5:08
  and
• 5:08
  then
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  torches
• 5:09
  passed
• 5:10
  basically
• 5:11
  with
• 5:11
  this
• 5:11
  series,
• 5:12
  the
• 5:12
  Bulls
• 5:13
  make
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  moves
• 5:14
  they
• 5:14
  need
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  make.
• 5:15
  They're
• 5:15
  very,
• 5:15
  very
• 5:16
  close
• 5:16
  here.
• 5:17
  We'll
• 5:17
  talk
• 5:18
  about
• 5:18
  it.
• 5:18
  You
• 5:18
  know,
• 5:18
  with
• 5:18
  game
• 5:19
  seven,
• 5:20
  they
• 5:20
  obviously
• 5:21
  did
• 5:21
  not
• 5:21
  have
• 5:22
  Pippen,
• 5:22
  they
• 5:22
  did
• 5:23
  not
• 5:23
  have
• 5:23
  John
• 5:23
  Paxton.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:25
  that
• 5:26
  was,
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  mean
• 5:26
  those
• 5:27
  two
• 5:27
  guys
• 5:27
  not
• 5:27
  being
• 5:27
  in
• 5:28
  this
• 5:28
  game,
• 5:28
  they
• 5:28
  score
• 5:29
  74
• 5:30
  points
• 5:30
  in
• 5:30
  this
• 5:31
  game.
• 5:31
  I
• 5:31
  mean
• 5:31
  it's,
• 5:31
  it's
• 5:32
  Obvious
• 5:32
  Jordan
• 5:32
  still
• 5:33
  gets
• 5:33
  his
• 5:33
  30,
• 5:34
  31.
• 5:35
  But,
• 5:36
  you
• 5:36
  know,
• 5:36
  not
• 5:36
  having
• 5:37
  Pippin,
• 5:37
  not
• 5:37
  having
• 5:37
  Paxton
• 5:38
  in
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  game
• 5:39
  seven
• 5:39
  at
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  palace
• 5:40
  was
• 5:41
  monumental,
• 5:41
  you
• 5:42
  know,
• 5:42
  and
• 5:44
  it
• 5:44
  basically,
• 5:45
  this
• 5:45
  game
• 5:45
  was
• 5:46
  so
• 5:46
  important
• 5:47
  for
• 5:48
  what
• 5:48
  happened
• 5:50
  moving
• 5:50
  forward
• 5:50
  for
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  next
• 5:51
  nine
• 5:52
  years
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  basketball
• 5:53
  in
• 5:53
  this
• 5:53
  decade.
• 5:54
  And
• 5:55
  I
• 5:55
  think
• 5:55
  that,
• 5:57
  you
• 5:57
  know,
• 5:57
  there's
• 5:58
  so
• 5:58
  much.
• 6:00
  The
• 6:00
  game
• 6:00
  itself,
• 6:01
  we'll
• 6:01
  say
• 6:02
  this
• 6:02
  quite
• 6:02
  a
• 6:02
  bit.
• 6:02
  The
• 6:02
  game
• 6:03
  itself
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  terrible.
• 6:04
  Yeah,
• 6:04
  like
• 6:04
  they
• 6:05
  scored
• 6:05
  15
• 6:05
  points
• 6:06
  the
• 6:06
  first.
• 6:06
  Like
• 6:06
  both
• 6:07
  teams
• 6:07
  had
• 6:07
  15
• 6:07
  points
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  first
• 6:08
  10
• 6:08
  minutes.
• 6:08
  Yeah,
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  think
• 6:09
  they're
• 6:09
  both
• 6:09
  shooting
• 6:09
  20.
• 6:10
  Like
• 6:10
  I'm
• 6:11
  watching
• 6:11
  this
• 6:11
  going,
• 6:12
  how
• 6:12
  did
• 6:12
  the
• 6:13
  NBA
• 6:13
  survive?
• 6:14
  Yeah,
• 6:15
  because
• 6:15
  it's
• 6:16
  10
• 6:16
  years
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  Bird
• 6:16
  and
• 6:17
  Magic
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  Showtime
• 6:18
  and
• 6:19
  then
• 6:19
  all
• 6:19
  of
• 6:20
  a
• 6:20
  sudden
• 6:20
  we
• 6:20
  get
• 6:20
  three
• 6:21
  years
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  this
• 6:21
  and
• 6:22
  it's
• 6:22
  not
• 6:22
  fun.
• 6:23
  It's
• 6:23
  not
• 6:23
  fun
• 6:24
  to
• 6:24
  watch
• 6:24
  at
• 6:24
  all.
• 6:25
  No.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:25
  you
• 6:26
  know,
• 6:26
  the,
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  Bulls,
• 6:29
  I.
• 6:29
  Well,
• 6:30
  two
• 6:30
  things.
• 6:31
  First,
• 6:32
  I
• 6:32
  think
• 6:32
  about
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  two,
• 6:35
  you
• 6:35
  know,
• 6:35
  documentaries
• 6:36
  that
• 6:36
  are
• 6:37
  out
• 6:37
  there
• 6:37
  that
• 6:37
  really
• 6:38
  touch
• 6:38
  on
• 6:38
  this
• 6:38
  are
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  30
• 6:39
  for
• 6:39
  30s,
• 6:40
  that
• 6:41
  it's
• 6:41
  about
• 6:41
  the
• 6:41
  bad
• 6:41
  boys.
• 6:42
  And
• 6:43
  I
• 6:43
  don't
• 6:43
  know,
• 6:43
  it
• 6:44
  might
• 6:44
  spend
• 6:45
  six
• 6:46
  minutes
• 6:46
  on
• 6:46
  the
• 6:47
  migraine
• 6:47
  game,
• 6:47
  something
• 6:48
  like
• 6:48
  that.
• 6:49
  And
• 6:49
  then
• 6:49
  in
• 6:51
  Jordan's
• 6:52
  doc,
• 6:52
  his
• 6:53
  10
• 6:53
  part,
• 6:54
  basically
• 6:54
  Uber
• 6:55
  30
• 6:55
  for
• 6:55
  30,
• 6:56
  that.
• 6:56
  He
• 6:56
  had
• 6:57
  love
• 6:57
  Love
• 6:58
  fest
• 6:58
  to
• 6:58
  himself.
• 6:59
  There's
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  giant
• 7:00
  part
• 7:00
  of
• 7:00
  the
• 7:00
  Pippen
• 7:02
  and
• 7:03
  episode,
• 7:03
  if
• 7:03
  I
• 7:04
  recall,
• 7:04
  that's
• 7:04
  about
• 7:04
  this.
• 7:04
  But
• 7:05
  I
• 7:05
  would
• 7:05
  say
• 7:06
  you
• 7:06
  watch
• 7:06
  both
• 7:06
  of
• 7:07
  those.
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  think
• 7:08
  if
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  watched
• 7:09
  both
• 7:09
  of
• 7:10
  those,
• 7:10
  but
• 7:10
  not
• 7:10
  being
• 7:10
  able
• 7:11
  to
• 7:11
  see
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  screen
• 7:12
  where
• 7:12
  she
• 7:12
  might
• 7:13
  show
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  score
• 7:13
  at
• 7:13
  any
• 7:14
  point
• 7:14
  during
• 7:14
  that,
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  think
• 7:15
  the
• 7:16
  way
• 7:16
  they
• 7:16
  frame
• 7:17
  it,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  would
• 7:18
  leave
• 7:18
  both
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  those
• 7:19
  moments
• 7:19
  in
• 7:19
  those
• 7:19
  documentaries
• 7:20
  feeling
• 7:21
  like
• 7:21
  the
• 7:22
  Pistons
• 7:22
  won
• 7:22
  by
• 7:23
  like
• 7:23
  three
• 7:23
  or
• 7:23
  four
• 7:24
  and
• 7:24
  Pippen
• 7:24
  would
• 7:25
  have
• 7:25
  been
• 7:25
  the
• 7:25
  difference.
• 7:26
  You
• 7:26
  know,
• 7:26
  like
• 7:26
  Pippen,
• 7:27
  Pippen
• 7:27
  would
• 7:27
  have
• 7:27
  made
• 7:27
  the
• 7:28
  difference.
• 7:28
  Instead,
• 7:29
  it's
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  19
• 7:30
  point
• 7:30
  divide.
• 7:31
  And
• 7:32
  really
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  Pistons
• 7:34
  took
• 7:34
  control
• 7:34
  in
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  second
• 7:35
  quarter
• 7:35
  of
• 7:35
  this
• 7:36
  thing.
• 7:36
  I
• 7:36
  mean,
• 7:37
  it
• 7:37
  was,
• 7:38
  it
• 7:38
  was
• 7:38
  kind
• 7:38
  of
• 7:38
  all
• 7:39
  over.
• 7:39
  Even
• 7:40
  at
• 7:40
  half.
• 7:40
  I
• 7:41
  mean,
• 7:41
  again,
• 7:42
  in
• 7:42
  hindsight,
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  would
• 7:43
  never
• 7:44
  say
• 7:44
  that
• 7:44
  with
• 7:44
  Michael
• 7:44
  Jordan
• 7:45
  and
• 7:45
  maybe
• 7:45
  even
• 7:46
  19,
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  know,
• 7:47
  ninth
• 7:47
  June
• 7:47
  1990,
• 7:48
  Michael
• 7:48
  Jordan.
• 7:49
  That
• 7:49
  wasn't
• 7:49
  fair
• 7:49
  to
• 7:50
  say
• 7:50
  that
• 7:50
  it
• 7:50
  was
• 7:50
  all
• 7:50
  over.
• 7:51
  But
• 7:52
  I
• 7:52
  do
• 7:52
  feel
• 7:52
  like
• 7:53
  that's
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  little
• 7:53
  bit
• 7:53
  of
• 7:54
  what
• 7:55
  Jordan
• 7:55
  did
• 7:55
  over
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  remainder
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  his
• 7:57
  career
• 7:57
  influencing
• 7:58
  that
• 7:58
  a
• 7:58
  little
• 7:59
  bit
• 7:59
  because
• 7:59
  that,
• 7:59
  that
• 8:00
  it
• 8:00
  was
• 8:00
  just
• 8:01
  too
• 8:01
  big
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  a
• 8:02
  divide
• 8:02
  already.
• 8:03
  And
• 8:04
  it
• 8:04
  had
• 8:05
  been
• 8:05
  a,
• 8:05
  you
• 8:05
  know,
• 8:06
  Pippen's
• 8:06
  kind
• 8:06
  of
• 8:07
  coming
• 8:07
  out
• 8:07
  party.
• 8:07
  I
• 8:08
  would
• 8:08
  say
• 8:08
  that
• 8:08
  whole
• 8:09
  season
• 8:11
  and
• 8:12
  obviously
• 8:12
  without,
• 8:13
  you
• 8:13
  know,
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  Robin
• 8:14
  to
• 8:14
  Jordan's
• 8:15
  Batman.
• 8:16
  And
• 8:16
  you
• 8:16
  were
• 8:17
  in
• 8:17
  Detroit
• 8:18
  in
• 8:18
  a
• 8:18
  hostile
• 8:19
  environment,
• 8:19
  facing
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  team
• 8:20
  that
• 8:21
  thrives
• 8:21
  at
• 8:22
  home
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  plays
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  very
• 8:24
  Physical
• 8:25
  style
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  had
• 8:26
  already.
• 8:26
  Even
• 8:26
  though
• 8:27
  Jordan
• 8:27
  had
• 8:27
  kind
• 8:27
  of
• 8:27
  beefed
• 8:28
  up
• 8:28
  prior
• 8:28
  to
• 8:28
  this
• 8:29
  season
• 8:29
  or
• 8:30
  gained
• 8:30
  strength,
• 8:31
  I
• 8:31
  should
• 8:31
  say,
• 8:31
  in
• 8:31
  muscle,
• 8:33
  it
• 8:33
  was.
• 8:34
  He
• 8:34
  was.
• 8:34
  It
• 8:34
  wasn't
• 8:35
  enough.
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  mean,
• 8:35
  they.
• 8:36
  They
• 8:36
  were
• 8:36
  just
• 8:36
  kind
• 8:36
  of
• 8:37
  peak
• 8:37
  power
• 8:37
  pistons,
• 8:38
  probably.
• 8:39
  And
• 8:39
  it
• 8:39
  was
• 8:40
  also
• 8:40
  too,
• 8:40
  like,
• 8:41
  in
• 8:41
  88,
• 8:41
  the
• 8:42
  Eastern
• 8:42
  Conference
• 8:42
  finals,
• 8:42
  they
• 8:43
  lose
• 8:43
  in
• 8:43
  five.
• 8:44
  Eastern
• 8:44
  Conference
• 8:44
  finals.
• 8:45
  In
• 8:45
  89,
• 8:45
  they
• 8:46
  lose
• 8:46
  in
• 8:46
  six.
• 8:47
  Eastern
• 8:47
  Conference
• 8:48
  finals.
• 8:48
  In
• 8:48
  90,
• 8:49
  they
• 8:49
  lose
• 8:49
  in
• 8:49
  seven.
• 8:50
  So
• 8:50
  it's
• 8:51
  like
• 8:51
  just
• 8:51
  a.
• 8:52
  They're.
• 8:52
  They're.
• 8:53
  It's
• 8:53
  very.
• 8:54
  You
• 8:54
  know,
• 8:54
  it's
• 8:55
  Sisyphus
• 8:55
  here.
• 8:55
  It's
• 8:56
  like
• 8:56
  they're
• 8:56
  literally
• 8:56
  pushing
• 8:57
  that
• 8:57
  boulder
• 8:57
  up,
• 8:57
  and
• 8:58
  then
• 8:58
  they're
• 8:58
  turning
• 8:58
  basically
• 8:59
  into,
• 9:00
  you
• 9:01
  know,
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  NBA's
• 9:01
  version
• 9:02
  of
• 9:02
  the
• 9:02
  Buffalo
• 9:02
  Bills.
• 9:03
  You
• 9:03
  know,
• 9:03
  this
• 9:03
  is
• 9:03
  Jordan's
• 9:04
  seventh
• 9:04
  season,
• 9:05
  sixth
• 9:05
  or
• 9:05
  seventh
• 9:06
  season,
• 9:07
  and
• 9:07
  he
• 9:07
  hasn't
• 9:07
  gotten
• 9:08
  over
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  hump
• 9:08
  yet.
• 9:09
  Hasn't
• 9:09
  gotten
• 9:09
  to
• 9:09
  a
• 9:09
  finals.
• 9:11
  Can
• 9:11
  you
• 9:11
  imagine
• 9:12
  if
• 9:13
  we
• 9:13
  had
• 9:13
  Michael
• 9:14
  Jordan
• 9:14
  in
• 9:14
  2025?
• 9:15
  I
• 9:16
  mean,
• 9:16
  it's
• 9:16
  Luca.
• 9:16
  It's.
• 9:17
  It's.
• 9:17
  It's
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  Luca
• 9:18
  conversation.
• 9:19
  It
• 9:19
  is
• 9:19
  all
• 9:20
  over
• 9:20
  again.
• 9:20
  And
• 9:20
  it's.
• 9:21
  It's
• 9:21
  basically
• 9:22
  this
• 9:22
  guy
• 9:22
  can't
• 9:22
  do
• 9:23
  it.
• 9:23
  Yeah.
• 9:24
  Oh.
• 9:24
  And
• 9:25
  basically
• 9:28
  next
• 9:28
  year
• 9:28
  he
• 9:28
  does
• 9:29
  do
• 9:29
  it,
• 9:29
  and
• 9:30
  then
• 9:30
  he
• 9:30
  basically
• 9:31
  sticks
• 9:31
  it
• 9:31
  down
• 9:31
  everybody's
• 9:32
  throat
• 9:32
  for
• 9:32
  the
• 9:33
  next,
• 9:33
  you
• 9:33
  know,
• 9:33
  or
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  six
• 9:34
  finals
• 9:34
  after
• 9:35
  that.
• 9:35
  So
• 9:35
  it's
• 9:35
  continues
• 9:36
  to
• 9:36
  do
• 9:36
  it
• 9:36
  over
• 9:36
  and
• 9:37
  over
• 9:37
  and
• 9:37
  over
• 9:38
  again.
• 9:39
  It's
• 9:39
  such
• 9:39
  an
• 9:39
  important
• 9:40
  game
• 9:40
  for
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  Pistons
• 9:41
  legacy,
• 9:42
  because
• 9:44
  if
• 9:44
  the
• 9:44
  Bulls
• 9:45
  win
• 9:45
  this
• 9:47
  and
• 9:47
  go
• 9:47
  on
• 9:47
  to
• 9:47
  the
• 9:48
  finals,
• 9:48
  then
• 9:48
  Detroit
• 9:49
  is.
• 9:49
  They've
• 9:50
  got
• 9:50
  one
• 9:50
  championship.
• 9:52
  Like,
• 9:52
  then
• 9:52
  they're.
• 9:53
  They're
• 9:53
  kind
• 9:53
  of
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  footnote.
• 9:54
  It's
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  different
• 9:56
  history.
• 9:56
  And
• 9:56
  we're
• 9:57
  talking
• 9:57
  far
• 9:57
  more
• 9:57
  about
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  personalities,
• 10:00
  and
• 10:01
  maybe
• 10:01
  we
• 10:01
  do
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  a
• 10:02
  certain
• 10:02
  degree
• 10:02
  anyway,
• 10:02
  but
• 10:02
  we're
• 10:03
  talking
• 10:03
  probably
• 10:04
  far
• 10:04
  more
• 10:04
  about
• 10:04
  the
• 10:05
  personalities
• 10:05
  and
• 10:06
  less
• 10:06
  so
• 10:06
  about
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  accomplishments,
• 10:07
  because
• 10:08
  they
• 10:09
  were
• 10:10
  the
• 10:11
  polar
• 10:11
  opposite
• 10:12
  of
• 10:12
  Showtime,
• 10:13
  and
• 10:13
  they
• 10:14
  were
• 10:14
  able
• 10:14
  to
• 10:14
  do
• 10:15
  that
• 10:15
  in
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  very
• 10:15
  ugly
• 10:16
  way,
• 10:16
  but
• 10:16
  also
• 10:16
  in
• 10:17
  a
• 10:17
  very
• 10:17
  effective
• 10:17
  way.
• 10:18
  Yes.
• 10:19
  The
• 10:19
  culmination
• 10:20
  of
• 10:20
  it
• 10:20
  is
• 10:20
  here
• 10:21
  for
• 10:21
  me.
• 10:21
  It's
• 10:21
  like
• 10:22
  you
• 10:22
  said
• 10:22
  earlier,
• 10:22
  this
• 10:22
  is
• 10:23
  probably
• 10:23
  the
• 10:23
  NBA
• 10:24
  Finals
• 10:24
  because
• 10:24
  they
• 10:25
  go
• 10:25
  on
• 10:25
  to
• 10:25
  beat
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  Trailblazers
• 10:27
  in
• 10:27
  five.
• 10:28
  Yeah.
• 10:28
  And
• 10:28
  I
• 10:28
  mean,
• 10:29
  they
• 10:29
  lose.
• 10:31
  What's
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  one
• 10:32
  loss,
• 10:32
  two
• 10:33
  points,
• 10:33
  four
• 10:33
  points.
• 10:34
  Yeah,
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  think
• 10:34
  it's
• 10:35
  two
• 10:35
  points.
• 10:35
  And
• 10:35
  it
• 10:35
  was
• 10:36
  in
• 10:36
  game
• 10:36
  one.
• 10:37
  Yeah.
• 10:37
  And
• 10:38
  in
• 10:38
  Detroit,
• 10:39
  which
• 10:40
  was
• 10:40
  kind
• 10:40
  of
• 10:40
  a
• 10:40
  shock,
• 10:41
  I
• 10:41
  think,
• 10:41
  and.
• 10:42
  And.
• 10:42
  And
• 10:42
  gave,
• 10:43
  you
• 10:43
  know,
• 10:43
  Portland.
• 10:44
  That's
• 10:44
  one
• 10:44
  of
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  things
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  really
• 10:45
  love
• 10:45
  about,
• 10:45
  you
• 10:45
  know,
• 10:46
  rewatching
• 10:46
  some
• 10:46
  of
• 10:47
  that
• 10:47
  stuff,
• 10:47
  is
• 10:47
  Portland
• 10:48
  wins
• 10:48
  game
• 10:48
  one
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  basically
• 10:50
  walks
• 10:50
  off
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  court
• 10:51
  saying,
• 10:52
  we
• 10:52
  come
• 10:53
  back
• 10:53
  tomorrow
• 10:53
  night,
• 10:54
  and
• 10:54
  then
• 10:54
  we're
• 10:54
  going
• 10:54
  home.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  we're
• 10:55
  not
• 10:55
  coming
• 10:55
  back
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  Detroit.
• 10:56
  You
• 10:57
  know
• 10:57
  what
• 10:57
  I
• 10:57
  mean?
• 10:57
  That's
• 10:57
  how
• 10:57
  confident
• 10:58
  they
• 10:58
  were.
• 10:59
  And
• 11:00
  that's
• 11:00
  true.
• 11:00
  They
• 11:01
  didn't
• 11:01
  have
• 11:01
  to
• 11:01
  come
• 11:01
  back.
• 11:02
  But
• 11:02
  at
• 11:02
  the
• 11:02
  same
• 11:03
  time,
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  don't
• 11:03
  think
• 11:03
  it
• 11:03
  played
• 11:04
  out
• 11:04
  exactly
• 11:04
  like
• 11:05
  they
• 11:05
  wanted
• 11:06
  it.
• 11:07
  It's.
• 11:10
  Man,
• 11:10
  I,
• 11:11
  I
• 11:11
  just,
• 11:12
  I,
• 11:12
  I've
• 11:12
  always
• 11:13
  hated
• 11:13
  the
• 11:13
  Pistons.
• 11:13
  I
• 11:14
  continue
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  hate
• 11:15
  the
• 11:15
  Pistons.
• 11:15
  And
• 11:15
  after
• 11:16
  watching
• 11:16
  this
• 11:16
  game,
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  think
• 11:17
  it's
• 11:17
  probably
• 11:19
  cemented
• 11:20
  that
• 11:22
  this
• 11:22
  dislike
• 11:23
  of
• 11:23
  them
• 11:24
  even
• 11:25
  more.
• 11:25
  I
• 11:26
  just
• 11:26
  hated
• 11:26
  watching
• 11:27
  the
• 11:27
  game.
• 11:27
  Yeah.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:28
  you've
• 11:28
  got
• 11:28
  Vern
• 11:29
  Lundquist
• 11:29
  on
• 11:29
  the
• 11:30
  call.
• 11:30
  You
• 11:30
  got
• 11:30
  Pat
• 11:30
  o'
• 11:31
  Brien
• 11:31
  on
• 11:31
  one
• 11:31
  bench,
• 11:32
  Leslie
• 11:32
  Visser
• 11:32
  on
• 11:33
  the
• 11:33
  other.
• 11:34
  We
• 11:35
  probably
• 11:35
  talked
• 11:35
  about
• 11:35
  the
• 11:36
  play
• 11:36
  by
• 11:36
  play
• 11:36
  guy
• 11:36
  of
• 11:37
  this
• 11:37
  game.
• 11:37
  If
• 11:37
  you.
• 11:39
  There
• 11:39
  is
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  very
• 11:40
  nice
• 11:40
  copy
• 11:41
  of
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  Migraine
• 11:42
  game
• 11:42
  on
• 11:42
  YouTube
• 11:43
  and
• 11:43
  literally,
• 11:43
  if
• 11:43
  you
• 11:43
  type
• 11:44
  in
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  migraine
• 11:45
  game,
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  can
• 11:45
  watch
• 11:45
  the
• 11:46
  full
• 11:46
  broadcast.
• 11:46
  So
• 11:47
  feel
• 11:47
  free
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  do
• 11:47
  that.
• 11:48
  But
• 11:49
  it's
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  former
• 11:49
  player,
• 11:50
  isn't
• 11:50
  it?
• 11:52
  Yeah.
• 11:52
  Lynn
• 11:53
  Elmore
• 11:53
  or
• 11:53
  Elmore
• 11:54
  or.
• 11:54
  Oh,
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  don't
• 11:55
  know
• 11:55
  if
• 11:55
  it's
• 11:55
  Lynn
• 11:55
  Elmore.
• 11:56
  I
• 11:56
  think
• 11:57
  it
• 11:57
  might
• 11:57
  be
• 11:57
  somebody
• 11:57
  else.
• 11:58
  Yeah,
• 11:58
  but
• 11:59
  you
• 11:59
  might
• 11:59
  be
• 11:59
  right.
• 12:00
  Yeah.
• 12:00
  I,
• 12:00
  I,
• 12:01
  it
• 12:01
  did
• 12:02
  not
• 12:02
  register
• 12:02
  with
• 12:02
  me.
• 12:03
  I
• 12:03
  think
• 12:03
  when
• 12:03
  he
• 12:03
  was,
• 12:04
  well,
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  remember,
• 12:05
  honestly,
• 12:05
  I
• 12:05
  was
• 12:05
  so
• 12:06
  starstruck
• 12:06
  with
• 12:06
  Vern.
• 12:07
  Yes.
• 12:08
  Because
• 12:08
  I'm
• 12:08
  like,
• 12:08
  we're
• 12:08
  getting
• 12:09
  Vern
• 12:09
  Lundquist
• 12:09
  on
• 12:10
  a,
• 12:10
  on
• 12:10
  a
• 12:10
  game
• 12:11
  seven.
• 12:11
  Like,
• 12:12
  give,
• 12:12
  you
• 12:12
  know,
• 12:12
  inject
• 12:13
  that
• 12:13
  in
• 12:13
  my
• 12:13
  veins.
• 12:13
  Give
• 12:14
  me
• 12:14
  all
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  got.
• 12:15
  Yeah,
• 12:15
  yeah.
• 12:16
  Not
• 12:16
  to.
• 12:17
  And
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  do
• 12:17
  want
• 12:17
  to
• 12:17
  get
• 12:18
  into
• 12:18
  this
• 12:18
  game
• 12:18
  and
• 12:19
  kind
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  some
• 12:19
  of
• 12:19
  the
• 12:19
  things
• 12:19
  with
• 12:20
  it
• 12:20
  more.
• 12:20
  But
• 12:20
  real
• 12:20
  quick,
• 12:21
  I
• 12:21
  mean,
• 12:21
  being
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  were
• 12:22
  a
• 12:22
  Bird
• 12:23
  Celtics
• 12:23
  fan
• 12:24
  at
• 12:24
  the
• 12:24
  time,
• 12:25
  do
• 12:25
  you
• 12:25
  agree
• 12:26
  with
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  idea
• 12:26
  that
• 12:27
  the
• 12:27
  Birds
• 12:27
  or
• 12:28
  the
• 12:28
  Birds,
• 12:29
  that
• 12:29
  the
• 12:29
  Celtics,
• 12:30
  that
• 12:30
  the
• 12:31
  Bird
• 12:31
  led
• 12:31
  Celtics
• 12:33
  basically
• 12:33
  created
• 12:34
  this
• 12:35
  Detroit
• 12:35
  team.
• 12:36
  Like
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  could
• 12:36
  basically
• 12:37
  say
• 12:37
  Detroit.
• 12:38
  And
• 12:38
  in
• 12:38
  the
• 12:39
  documentary
• 12:39
  and
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  bad
• 12:40
  boys,
• 12:40
  Jack
• 12:41
  McCloskey,
• 12:42
  who's,
• 12:42
  who
• 12:42
  was
• 12:42
  the
• 12:42
  GM
• 12:43
  and
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  architect
• 12:44
  who
• 12:44
  put
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  Pistons
• 12:45
  together.
• 12:46
  I
• 12:46
  mean,
• 12:46
  it's
• 12:46
  pretty
• 12:47
  clear,
• 12:47
  like,
• 12:47
  that's
• 12:48
  what
• 12:48
  he
• 12:48
  said
• 12:48
  is,
• 12:48
  okay,
• 12:49
  well,
• 12:49
  we
• 12:50
  have
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  come
• 12:50
  up
• 12:50
  with
• 12:51
  the
• 12:51
  blueprint
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  beat
• 12:53
  one
• 12:53
  team.
• 12:53
  You
• 12:54
  know,
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  rest
• 12:54
  of
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  teams
• 12:54
  in
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  east
• 12:55
  aren't
• 12:55
  the
• 12:55
  problem.
• 12:56
  It's
• 12:56
  one
• 12:56
  team.
• 12:57
  And,
• 12:57
  and
• 12:57
  really,
• 12:58
  you
• 12:58
  know,
• 12:58
  not
• 12:59
  even
• 12:59
  just
• 12:59
  one
• 12:59
  guy.
• 12:59
  I
• 13:00
  would
• 13:00
  say
• 13:00
  the
• 13:00
  Celtics
• 13:01
  were
• 13:01
  an
• 13:01
  amazing
• 13:02
  team
• 13:02
  with
• 13:02
  one
• 13:02
  amazing
• 13:03
  player.
• 13:03
  But
• 13:04
  I
• 13:05
  mean,
• 13:05
  with
• 13:05
  that
• 13:06
  said,
• 13:06
  I
• 13:06
  would
• 13:06
  say,
• 13:06
  you
• 13:07
  know,
• 13:07
  and
• 13:07
  it's
• 13:07
  interesting
• 13:08
  because
• 13:08
  that
• 13:08
  really
• 13:08
  gave
• 13:08
  me
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  looking
• 13:09
  through
• 13:10
  it
• 13:10
  through
• 13:10
  that
• 13:10
  lens
• 13:10
  of
• 13:11
  like,
• 13:11
  than
• 13:12
  how
• 13:12
  the
• 13:13
  Pistons
• 13:13
  kind
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  created
• 13:14
  the
• 13:14
  Bulls.
• 13:15
  Now,
• 13:15
  I
• 13:15
  don't
• 13:16
  know
• 13:16
  what
• 13:16
  happened
• 13:16
  there,
• 13:16
  because
• 13:17
  then
• 13:17
  the
• 13:17
  Bulls
• 13:17
  basically
• 13:18
  go
• 13:18
  on
• 13:19
  six
• 13:19
  championships
• 13:20
  over
• 13:20
  eight
• 13:20
  years
• 13:21
  with
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  only
• 13:21
  hiccup
• 13:22
  coming
• 13:22
  when
• 13:22
  Jordan's
• 13:23
  out
• 13:23
  or
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  two
• 13:23
  hiccups.
• 13:26
  So
• 13:26
  I
• 13:26
  mean,
• 13:26
  do
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  think.
• 13:28
  I
• 13:28
  mean,
• 13:28
  that's
• 13:28
  pretty
• 13:28
  fair,
• 13:29
  right?
• 13:29
  Saying
• 13:30
  that
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  Celtics
• 13:31
  essentially
• 13:31
  created
• 13:32
  this
• 13:33
  Pistons
• 13:34
  team?
• 13:34
  I
• 13:34
  mean,
• 13:35
  I
• 13:36
  mean,
• 13:36
  you
• 13:36
  keep
• 13:36
  running
• 13:36
  into
• 13:37
  a
• 13:37
  wall
• 13:38
  over
• 13:38
  and
• 13:38
  over
• 13:38
  and
• 13:38
  over.
• 13:39
  At
• 13:39
  some
• 13:39
  point
• 13:39
  you
• 13:39
  got
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  try
• 13:40
  to
• 13:40
  figure
• 13:40
  out
• 13:40
  how
• 13:40
  to
• 13:40
  get
• 13:40
  over
• 13:41
  it,
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  know,
• 13:42
  Like,
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  mean,
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  just.
• 13:43
  Yeah,
• 13:44
  And
• 13:44
  I
• 13:44
  think
• 13:44
  that
• 13:44
  the
• 13:45
  Celtics
• 13:45
  were
• 13:45
  so
• 13:46
  physical
• 13:46
  too,
• 13:47
  right?
• 13:47
  Yeah.
• 13:48
  And
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  felt
• 13:48
  like
• 13:48
  the,
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  Lakers
• 13:50
  and
• 13:51
  probably
• 13:52
  the,
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  Bulls
• 13:53
  too
• 13:53
  would
• 13:53
  have
• 13:53
  almost
• 13:54
  put
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  Celtics
• 13:54
  in
• 13:55
  a
• 13:55
  very
• 13:55
  similar
• 13:55
  light
• 13:56
  of.
• 13:57
  They're
• 13:58
  going
• 13:58
  to
• 13:58
  just
• 13:58
  try
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  rip
• 13:59
  your
• 13:59
  heads
• 13:59
  off
• 14:00
  to
• 14:00
  some
• 14:00
  degree,
• 14:00
  you
• 14:01
  know
• 14:01
  what
• 14:01
  I
• 14:01
  mean?
• 14:01
  So
• 14:02
  it
• 14:02
  is
• 14:02
  interesting
• 14:03
  though,
• 14:03
  I
• 14:04
  think,
• 14:04
  like,
• 14:05
  why
• 14:05
  did
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  bad
• 14:06
  boys
• 14:07
  label
• 14:07
  then
• 14:07
  just
• 14:08
  get
• 14:08
  stuck
• 14:09
  on?
• 14:09
  Like,
• 14:10
  why
• 14:10
  weren't
• 14:10
  the
• 14:11
  Celtics
• 14:11
  considered
• 14:12
  bad
• 14:12
  boys,
• 14:13
  is
• 14:14
  my
• 14:14
  question.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:15
  mean,
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  feel
• 14:15
  like
• 14:16
  one
• 14:16
  of
• 14:16
  the
• 14:16
  first
• 14:17
  clips
• 14:17
  that
• 14:17
  you
• 14:18
  think
• 14:18
  of
• 14:18
  when
• 14:18
  you
• 14:18
  think
• 14:18
  of
• 14:18
  the
• 14:19
  bad
• 14:19
  boys
• 14:19
  is
• 14:19
  like,
• 14:20
  you
• 14:20
  know,
• 14:20
  they're
• 14:21
  in
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  silver
• 14:22
  dome.
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  think
• 14:22
  they're
• 14:22
  playing
• 14:22
  in
• 14:23
  the
• 14:23
  silver
• 14:23
  dome.
• 14:23
  Yeah.
• 14:24
  And
• 14:24
  Lambert
• 14:25
  fouls
• 14:25
  Bird
• 14:26
  hard.
• 14:27
  And
• 14:27
  you
• 14:27
  can
• 14:27
  just
• 14:27
  see,
• 14:28
  you
• 14:28
  can
• 14:29
  see
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  trash
• 14:29
  bag
• 14:30
  up
• 14:30
  above.
• 14:31
  You
• 14:31
  know,
• 14:32
  that
• 14:32
  white
• 14:32
  trash
• 14:32
  bag,
• 14:33
  like
• 14:33
  that's
• 14:34
  burned
• 14:34
  into
• 14:34
  my
• 14:35
  frontal
• 14:35
  cortex,
• 14:36
  basically.
• 14:37
  And
• 14:37
  then
• 14:37
  just
• 14:38
  the,
• 14:38
  you
• 14:38
  know,
• 14:39
  you
• 14:39
  know,
• 14:40
  haymakers
• 14:41
  start
• 14:41
  getting
• 14:41
  thrown.
• 14:41
  Everything
• 14:42
  just
• 14:42
  goes
• 14:42
  nuts.
• 14:42
  But
• 14:43
  it's
• 14:43
  basically,
• 14:43
  that's
• 14:44
  the.
• 14:44
  That
• 14:45
  clip
• 14:45
  is
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  epitome,
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  know,
• 14:47
  of
• 14:48
  that
• 14:48
  era
• 14:48
  of
• 14:48
  basketball
• 14:49
  for
• 14:49
  them.
• 14:50
  Yeah,
• 14:51
  it
• 14:51
  was.
• 14:52
  That
• 14:53
  also
• 14:53
  got.
• 14:53
  Who
• 14:54
  was
• 14:54
  it
• 14:54
  that
• 14:54
  took
• 14:55
  Rambus
• 14:55
  down
• 14:55
  so
• 14:56
  hard?
• 14:56
  Was
• 14:56
  it
• 14:56
  Lambert
• 14:57
  or
• 14:57
  was
• 14:57
  that
• 14:57
  Mikhail?
• 14:58
  I
• 14:58
  think
• 14:58
  that
• 14:59
  was
• 14:59
  Mikhail.
• 15:00
  Yeah.
• 15:00
  And
• 15:00
  that's
• 15:01
  kind
• 15:01
  of
• 15:01
  what
• 15:01
  I'm
• 15:01
  saying.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  do
• 15:02
  feel
• 15:02
  like.
• 15:03
  Well,
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  mean,
• 15:04
  think
• 15:04
  about
• 15:04
  this.
• 15:05
  There's
• 15:05
  similarities
• 15:06
  between
• 15:06
  these
• 15:06
  two
• 15:06
  teams.
• 15:07
  Almost
• 15:07
  seven
• 15:08
  footers
• 15:08
  on
• 15:08
  the
• 15:08
  floor
• 15:09
  at
• 15:09
  times.
• 15:09
  Burton,
• 15:10
  McKel
• 15:10
  and
• 15:10
  Parish
• 15:10
  were
• 15:11
  all
• 15:11
  on
• 15:11
  the
• 15:11
  floor.
• 15:12
  Yeah.
• 15:12
  And
• 15:12
  all
• 15:12
  of
• 15:13
  them
• 15:13
  didn't
• 15:13
  care
• 15:13
  about
• 15:14
  putting
• 15:14
  you
• 15:14
  on
• 15:14
  your
• 15:14
  back.
• 15:15
  No.
• 15:16
  And
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  mean,
• 15:16
  again,
• 15:16
  you
• 15:17
  look
• 15:17
  at
• 15:17
  Detroit,
• 15:18
  right?
• 15:18
  Not
• 15:19
  that
• 15:19
  far
• 15:19
  off,
• 15:20
  maybe
• 15:20
  not
• 15:20
  quite
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  height
• 15:21
  on
• 15:21
  all
• 15:22
  those
• 15:22
  guys.
• 15:22
  But
• 15:22
  you've
• 15:23
  got
• 15:23
  Lambert,
• 15:24
  you've
• 15:24
  got.
• 15:25
  Who
• 15:25
  is
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  big
• 15:26
  fella
• 15:26
  I'm
• 15:26
  thinking
• 15:26
  of
• 15:27
  here?
• 15:28
  Is
• 15:28
  it
• 15:29
  Sally
• 15:29
  Horn?
• 15:30
  Mahorn?
• 15:30
  Of
• 15:31
  course.
• 15:31
  Sally
• 15:32
  was
• 15:32
  also
• 15:32
  big
• 15:33
  and
• 15:33
  kind
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  a
• 15:34
  physical
• 15:34
  player.
• 15:34
  Rodman
• 15:35
  wasn't
• 15:35
  as
• 15:35
  physically
• 15:36
  imposing,
• 15:37
  but
• 15:37
  probably
• 15:38
  gave
• 15:38
  fits
• 15:38
  to
• 15:39
  those
• 15:39
  guys
• 15:39
  down
• 15:39
  there,
• 15:40
  obviously,
• 15:41
  for
• 15:41
  sure.
• 15:41
  I
• 15:42
  think
• 15:42
  it's
• 15:42
  young.
• 15:42
  It's
• 15:43
  young
• 15:43
  Rodman
• 15:44
  too.
• 15:44
  Yeah,
• 15:45
  it's
• 15:45
  like
• 15:46
  23
• 15:47
  or
• 15:47
  24
• 15:47
  year
• 15:47
  old
• 15:48
  Rodman.
• 15:48
  Can
• 15:48
  you
• 15:48
  imagine
• 15:49
  trying
• 15:49
  to
• 15:50
  60
• 15:51
  seconds
• 15:51
  in
• 15:51
  a
• 15:52
  conversation
• 15:52
  with
• 15:52
  that
• 15:53
  kid
• 15:53
  at
• 15:53
  that
• 15:53
  time
• 15:54
  in
• 15:54
  his
• 15:54
  life.
• 15:54
  Yeah,
• 15:55
  no,
• 15:55
  forget
• 15:56
  it.
• 15:56
  It
• 15:57
  was
• 15:57
  a
• 15:57
  different
• 15:57
  Rodman
• 15:58
  for
• 15:58
  sure.
• 15:58
  For
• 15:59
  sure.
• 15:59
  I
• 16:00
  mean,
• 16:00
  you
• 16:01
  know,
• 16:01
  and
• 16:01
  that
• 16:01
  we
• 16:01
  were
• 16:01
  kind
• 16:01
  of
• 16:02
  talking
• 16:02
  about
• 16:02
  that
• 16:02
  before
• 16:02
  we
• 16:02
  started
• 16:03
  recording,
• 16:03
  too,
• 16:03
  is
• 16:04
  just
• 16:04
  like
• 16:04
  kind
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  his
• 16:05
  entire
• 16:06
  story.
• 16:06
  And,
• 16:07
  you
• 16:07
  know,
• 16:07
  obviously
• 16:07
  there's
• 16:08
  a
• 16:08
  documentary
• 16:08
  out
• 16:08
  there
• 16:09
  on
• 16:09
  him
• 16:09
  and
• 16:09
  all
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  all
• 16:10
  that,
• 16:11
  but
• 16:11
  this.
• 16:11
  This
• 16:11
  time
• 16:12
  right
• 16:12
  here,
• 16:13
  and
• 16:13
  you
• 16:13
  kind
• 16:14
  of
• 16:14
  see
• 16:14
  that
• 16:14
  in
• 16:15
  some
• 16:15
  of
• 16:15
  those
• 16:15
  documentaries,
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  think.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:18
  feel
• 16:18
  like
• 16:19
  this
• 16:19
  was
• 16:19
  his
• 16:19
  best
• 16:20
  moment.
• 16:21
  These
• 16:21
  were
• 16:21
  his
• 16:22
  best
• 16:22
  moments,
• 16:22
  you
• 16:23
  know,
• 16:23
  Rodman.
• 16:24
  Yeah.
• 16:24
  Even
• 16:25
  from
• 16:25
  just
• 16:25
  like
• 16:25
  a
• 16:26
  health
• 16:27
  perspective.
• 16:28
  And
• 16:28
  I'm
• 16:28
  not,
• 16:28
  you
• 16:28
  know,
• 16:29
  type
• 16:30
  of
• 16:30
  psychologist
• 16:30
  or
• 16:31
  whatever,
• 16:31
  but
• 16:31
  it
• 16:31
  just
• 16:32
  feels
• 16:32
  like
• 16:32
  he
• 16:32
  was
• 16:32
  in
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  good
• 16:33
  mental
• 16:34
  space
• 16:34
  and
• 16:34
  there's
• 16:35
  a
• 16:35
  lot
• 16:35
  of
• 16:35
  talk
• 16:35
  about,
• 16:36
  you
• 16:36
  know,
• 16:36
  that
• 16:36
  in
• 16:37
  terms
• 16:37
  of.
• 16:38
  They
• 16:38
  were
• 16:38
  very
• 16:38
  family
• 16:39
  oriented
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  he
• 16:40
  needed
• 16:41
  that
• 16:41
  more
• 16:41
  than
• 16:41
  ever
• 16:42
  at
• 16:42
  that
• 16:42
  point
• 16:42
  in
• 16:42
  his
• 16:42
  life
• 16:43
  and
• 16:43
  had
• 16:43
  probably
• 16:43
  not
• 16:43
  experienced
• 16:44
  that
• 16:44
  to
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  same
• 16:45
  degree
• 16:45
  as
• 16:46
  several
• 16:46
  others,
• 16:46
  so.
• 16:47
  But
• 16:48
  I
• 16:48
  say
• 16:49
  all
• 16:49
  that
• 16:49
  going
• 16:49
  back
• 16:50
  to
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  Boston
• 16:50
  idea
• 16:51
  is
• 16:51
  that
• 16:51
  as
• 16:52
  I
• 16:52
  watched
• 16:52
  more
• 16:52
  and
• 16:53
  more
• 16:53
  of
• 16:53
  these
• 16:53
  Celtics
• 16:54
  game
• 16:54
  or
• 16:54
  these
• 16:54
  Pistons
• 16:55
  games,
• 16:56
  not
• 16:56
  just
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  migraine
• 16:57
  game,
• 16:57
  but
• 16:57
  looking
• 16:57
  at
• 16:57
  some
• 16:57
  of
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  games
• 16:58
  in
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  finals,
• 16:59
  going
• 17:00
  back
• 17:00
  and
• 17:00
  looking
• 17:00
  at
• 17:00
  some
• 17:01
  of
• 17:01
  their
• 17:01
  wars
• 17:01
  with
• 17:01
  Boston,
• 17:02
  I'm
• 17:03
  just
• 17:03
  like,
• 17:03
  man,
• 17:04
  they're
• 17:04
  not
• 17:04
  that
• 17:05
  different
• 17:05
  at
• 17:05
  all.
• 17:06
  You
• 17:06
  know,
• 17:06
  these
• 17:07
  two
• 17:07
  teams
• 17:07
  are
• 17:07
  not
• 17:08
  that
• 17:08
  different.
• 17:09
  So
• 17:09
  Detroit
• 17:10
  did
• 17:11
  embrace
• 17:11
  it.
• 17:12
  Score.
• 17:12
  The
• 17:13
  Celtics
• 17:13
  could
• 17:13
  score
• 17:13
  130,
• 17:14
  140
• 17:15
  on
• 17:15
  you.
• 17:15
  They
• 17:16
  could.
• 17:16
  They
• 17:16
  could.
• 17:17
  And
• 17:17
  Isaiah
• 17:18
  could
• 17:18
  offensively
• 17:19
  take
• 17:19
  over
• 17:19
  a
• 17:19
  game.
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  mean,
• 17:20
  we.
• 17:20
  He
• 17:21
  does
• 17:21
  it
• 17:21
  for
• 17:21
  sure,
• 17:22
  right.
• 17:22
  I
• 17:22
  mean,
• 17:22
  he's
• 17:22
  not
• 17:23
  Bird.
• 17:23
  I
• 17:23
  get
• 17:24
  that.
• 17:24
  And
• 17:25
  Lambert
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  Mahorn
• 17:27
  and
• 17:27
  Sally
• 17:27
  and
• 17:28
  all
• 17:28
  the.
• 17:28
  And
• 17:28
  Aguirre
• 17:29
  and
• 17:29
  all
• 17:29
  them.
• 17:29
  They
• 17:29
  are
• 17:29
  not
• 17:30
  Mikhail,
• 17:30
  you
• 17:31
  know,
• 17:33
  So
• 17:33
  I
• 17:33
  do
• 17:33
  get
• 17:33
  it.
• 17:34
  There's
• 17:34
  definitely
• 17:34
  a
• 17:34
  level
• 17:35
  in
• 17:35
  greatness,
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  would
• 17:36
  say.
• 17:36
  But
• 17:36
  at
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  same
• 17:37
  time,
• 17:37
  I
• 17:37
  think
• 17:38
  from
• 17:38
  the
• 17:38
  style
• 17:38
  of
• 17:39
  play,
• 17:39
  I
• 17:39
  just
• 17:39
  feel
• 17:39
  like
• 17:39
  there's
• 17:40
  so
• 17:40
  many
• 17:40
  similarities
• 17:41
  between.
• 17:41
  Between
• 17:42
  those
• 17:42
  two
• 17:42
  teams.
• 17:43
  And
• 17:44
  it's
• 17:44
  interesting,
• 17:44
  though,
• 17:45
  how
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  feel
• 17:47
  like
• 17:47
  general
• 17:47
  population
• 17:48
  would
• 17:48
  have
• 17:49
  a
• 17:49
  negative
• 17:50
  memory
• 17:51
  of
• 17:51
  the
• 17:52
  Pistons
• 17:52
  and
• 17:53
  a
• 17:53
  positive
• 17:53
  one
• 17:54
  of
• 17:54
  the
• 17:55
  Celtics.
• 17:57
  So,
• 17:57
  you
• 17:58
  know,
• 17:58
  what
• 17:58
  leads
• 17:58
  to
• 17:59
  that?
• 17:59
  Is
• 17:59
  it
• 18:00
  that
• 18:00
  the
• 18:01
  Pistons
• 18:01
  beat
• 18:01
  up
• 18:02
  Jordan
• 18:02
  and
• 18:02
  Jordan
• 18:03
  was
• 18:03
  everybody's
• 18:03
  favorite.
• 18:04
  Everyone
• 18:04
  loved
• 18:04
  Jordan.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:05
  that's,
• 18:05
  you
• 18:06
  know,
• 18:06
  we
• 18:06
  can
• 18:06
  remember
• 18:07
  them
• 18:07
  beating
• 18:07
  him
• 18:07
  up
• 18:08
  far
• 18:08
  easily
• 18:08
  or.
• 18:09
  Well,
• 18:09
  who
• 18:10
  on
• 18:10
  that
• 18:10
  team
• 18:10
  is
• 18:10
  likable?
• 18:11
  I
• 18:12
  mean,
• 18:12
  I
• 18:12
  think
• 18:12
  Isaiah
• 18:13
  is
• 18:14
  again.
• 18:14
  Yeah.
• 18:15
  But
• 18:15
  I
• 18:15
  mean,
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  me,
• 18:16
  out
• 18:16
  of
• 18:17
  all
• 18:17
  those
• 18:17
  guys,
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  think
• 18:17
  Isaiah
• 18:18
  is
• 18:18
  probably
• 18:18
  the
• 18:19
  most
• 18:19
  polarizing.
• 18:20
  Yeah.
• 18:20
  And
• 18:20
  as
• 18:20
  a
• 18:21
  guy
• 18:21
  who
• 18:21
  wasn't
• 18:21
  a
• 18:21
  Celtics
• 18:22
  fan,
• 18:22
  I
• 18:23
  would
• 18:23
  say
• 18:24
  similar.
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  didn't
• 18:26
  like
• 18:26
  McHale,
• 18:26
  I
• 18:27
  didn't
• 18:27
  like
• 18:27
  Parish.
• 18:28
  I
• 18:28
  didn't
• 18:28
  like
• 18:29
  DJ
• 18:30
  100%
• 18:30
  I
• 18:31
  respected
• 18:31
  Bird,
• 18:32
  but
• 18:32
  I
• 18:32
  don't
• 18:33
  think
• 18:33
  even
• 18:34
  in
• 18:34
  hindsight
• 18:34
  I
• 18:35
  don't
• 18:35
  know
• 18:35
  that,
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  know,
• 18:35
  I
• 18:36
  would
• 18:36
  have
• 18:36
  like
• 18:36
  loved
• 18:36
  him,
• 18:37
  you
• 18:37
  know,
• 18:38
  as
• 18:38
  a
• 18:38
  guy
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  wanted
• 18:39
  to
• 18:39
  watch
• 18:39
  all
• 18:39
  the
• 18:39
  time
• 18:39
  and
• 18:40
  listen
• 18:40
  to
• 18:40
  off
• 18:40
  the
• 18:41
  court,
• 18:41
  you
• 18:42
  know,
• 18:42
  interview
• 18:42
  stuff.
• 18:43
  Isaiah.
• 18:44
  And
• 18:44
  Isaiah's
• 18:45
  got
• 18:45
  a
• 18:45
  ton
• 18:45
  of
• 18:45
  flaws
• 18:46
  and
• 18:46
  made
• 18:46
  a
• 18:46
  bun,
• 18:46
  you
• 18:47
  know,
• 18:47
  several
• 18:47
  mistakes,
• 18:48
  but.
• 18:49
  And
• 18:50
  obviously,
• 18:51
  which
• 18:51
  we'll
• 18:51
  get
• 18:51
  into
• 18:52
  a
• 18:52
  little
• 18:52
  bit
• 18:52
  here
• 18:52
  too.
• 18:53
  And
• 18:53
  this
• 18:54
  series
• 18:54
  kind
• 18:54
  of
• 18:55
  has
• 18:56
  a
• 18:56
  little
• 18:56
  bit
• 18:56
  of
• 18:56
  that.
• 18:57
  But
• 18:57
  he,
• 18:58
  he
• 18:58
  pissed
• 18:58
  off
• 18:59
  the
• 18:59
  wrong
• 18:59
  guy
• 19:00
  and
• 19:01
  it
• 19:01
  impacted
• 19:01
  his
• 19:02
  legacy
• 19:02
  in
• 19:02
  my
• 19:02
  mind.
• 19:03
  You
• 19:03
  know,
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  mean,
• 19:04
  like
• 19:04
  he
• 19:04
  crossed
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  line
• 19:05
  with
• 19:05
  the
• 19:06
  one
• 19:06
  guy
• 19:06
  and
• 19:06
  Michael
• 19:07
  Jordan
• 19:08
  who
• 19:08
  could
• 19:09
  basically
• 19:10
  have,
• 19:10
  you
• 19:10
  know,
• 19:11
  long
• 19:11
  term
• 19:12
  repercussions,
• 19:12
  you
• 19:13
  know,
• 19:13
  in
• 19:13
  terms
• 19:13
  of
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  decisions
• 19:14
  he
• 19:14
  made
• 19:14
  on,
• 19:15
  on
• 19:15
  Thomas.
• 19:16
  And
• 19:16
  so
• 19:16
  I.
• 19:16
  But
• 19:17
  I
• 19:17
  do
• 19:17
  feel
• 19:17
  like.
• 19:17
  Did
• 19:18
  that
• 19:18
  influence
• 19:19
  us
• 19:19
  too
• 19:19
  much?
• 19:20
  Was
• 19:20
  it
• 19:21
  that
• 19:21
  there's
• 19:21
  this
• 19:22
  weird
• 19:23
  handoff
• 19:24
  between
• 19:24
  the
• 19:24
  glory
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  80s
• 19:26
  Celtics,
• 19:26
  Lakers
• 19:28
  and
• 19:28
  the
• 19:29
  glory
• 19:29
  of
• 19:29
  MJ
• 19:30
  that
• 19:30
  it
• 19:31
  just
• 19:31
  feels
• 19:31
  like,
• 19:31
  well,
• 19:31
  there's
• 19:32
  this
• 19:32
  dark
• 19:32
  hole
• 19:33
  here
• 19:33
  with
• 19:33
  this
• 19:33
  team
• 19:34
  that
• 19:35
  was
• 19:35
  just
• 19:35
  a
• 19:36
  bunch
• 19:36
  of
• 19:36
  bullies.
• 19:37
  And
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  just
• 19:38
  don't
• 19:38
  know
• 19:38
  that
• 19:38
  that's
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  reason
• 19:39
  why
• 19:40
  we
• 19:40
  should,
• 19:40
  you
• 19:40
  know.
• 19:42
  Do
• 19:43
  you
• 19:43
  make
• 19:43
  a.
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  think
• 19:44
  you
• 19:44
  absolutely
• 19:45
  make
• 19:45
  a
• 19:45
  fair
• 19:45
  point.
• 19:46
  My
• 19:47
  thing
• 19:47
  though
• 19:47
  is
• 19:47
  that
• 19:48
  just
• 19:49
  from
• 19:49
  a
• 19:50
  visual
• 19:50
  standpoint,
• 19:51
  if
• 19:51
  you
• 19:52
  enjoy
• 19:52
  watching
• 19:52
  basketball,
• 19:54
  this
• 19:54
  is
• 19:54
  the
• 19:54
  least
• 19:55
  enjoyable
• 19:56
  basketball
• 19:57
  imaginable.
• 19:58
  Even
• 19:58
  if
• 19:58
  it's,
• 19:59
  even
• 19:59
  if
• 19:59
  it's
• 19:59
  successful.
• 20:01
  It's
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  equivalent
• 20:02
  of
• 20:02
  like
• 20:05
  Nebraska
• 20:06
  in
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  early
• 20:06
  aughts
• 20:07
  running
• 20:07
  the
• 20:07
  wishbone,
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  know,
• 20:08
  or,
• 20:09
  or
• 20:09
  you
• 20:10
  know,
• 20:10
  in
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  mid-90s,
• 20:11
  running,
• 20:11
  you
• 20:12
  know,
• 20:12
  the
• 20:12
  veer
• 20:12
  or
• 20:12
  whatever
• 20:13
  the
• 20:13
  hell
• 20:13
  they
• 20:13
  were
• 20:13
  running
• 20:14
  like
• 20:16
  wasn't
• 20:16
  an
• 20:16
  exciting
• 20:17
  brand
• 20:17
  of
• 20:17
  football.
• 20:18
  They
• 20:18
  were
• 20:18
  very
• 20:18
  successful.
• 20:19
  And
• 20:19
  for
• 20:19
  Nebraska
• 20:20
  fans
• 20:20
  it
• 20:20
  was
• 20:20
  great.
• 20:21
  And
• 20:21
  for
• 20:21
  Pistons
• 20:21
  fans,
• 20:22
  I'm
• 20:22
  sure
• 20:22
  it
• 20:22
  was
• 20:22
  phenomenal.
• 20:23
  Yeah.
• 20:24
  But
• 20:24
  my
• 20:25
  God,
• 20:25
  like
• 20:25
  if
• 20:25
  it's
• 20:25
  a
• 20:26
  sad.
• 20:26
  If
• 20:26
  you're.
• 20:27
  We
• 20:27
  were
• 20:27
  in
• 20:27
  high
• 20:28
  school
• 20:28
  at
• 20:28
  this
• 20:28
  point
• 20:28
  or
• 20:28
  almost
• 20:29
  in
• 20:29
  high
• 20:29
  school,
• 20:29
  middle
• 20:30
  school,
• 20:31
  like
• 20:31
  if
• 20:31
  you're
• 20:32
  a
• 20:33
  kid
• 20:34
  who
• 20:34
  has
• 20:34
  a
• 20:35
  Saturday
• 20:35
  afternoon,
• 20:36
  because
• 20:36
  if
• 20:37
  I'm
• 20:37
  not
• 20:37
  mistaken,
• 20:38
  this
• 20:38
  game
• 20:38
  seven
• 20:38
  is
• 20:39
  like
• 20:39
  midday.
• 20:41
  It's
• 20:41
  like
• 20:41
  a
• 20:41
  two
• 20:41
  o'
• 20:42
  clock
• 20:42
  or
• 20:42
  three
• 20:42
  o'
• 20:42
  clock
• 20:42
  game.
• 20:42
  Yeah,
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  believe
• 20:43
  so.
• 20:44
  If
• 20:44
  you
• 20:44
  have
• 20:45
  the
• 20:45
  choice
• 20:45
  to
• 20:45
  go
• 20:46
  shoot
• 20:47
  hoops
• 20:48
  out
• 20:48
  in
• 20:48
  The
• 20:48
  sun
• 20:49
  on
• 20:49
  June
• 20:50
  3rd
• 20:50
  of
• 20:51
  1990
• 20:52
  or
• 20:52
  sit
• 20:52
  down
• 20:52
  and
• 20:53
  watch
• 20:53
  this
• 20:53
  game
• 20:53
  and
• 20:54
  hope
• 20:54
  that
• 20:54
  Jordan
• 20:54
  gets
• 20:54
  over
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  hump,
• 20:56
  but
• 20:56
  also
• 20:57
  knowing
• 20:57
  that
• 20:57
  you're
• 20:58
  probably
• 20:58
  going
• 20:58
  to
• 20:59
  see
• 21:00
  an
• 21:00
  85
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  83
• 21:02
  game,
• 21:03
  you
• 21:04
  know
• 21:04
  what
• 21:04
  I
• 21:04
  mean?
• 21:04
  Like
• 21:04
  you're
• 21:04
  going
• 21:05
  outside
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  shoot
• 21:06
  hoops.
• 21:06
  Yeah,
• 21:07
  yeah.
• 21:08
  No,
• 21:08
  I'm
• 21:08
  with
• 21:08
  you.
• 21:08
  I
• 21:09
  get
• 21:09
  it.
• 21:09
  So
• 21:10
  style
• 21:10
  of
• 21:10
  play
• 21:11
  and
• 21:11
  really,
• 21:12
  they're.
• 21:14
  I
• 21:14
  would
• 21:14
  say
• 21:16
  defensively,
• 21:17
  they
• 21:17
  were
• 21:17
  just
• 21:17
  such
• 21:18
  a
• 21:18
  shutdown.
• 21:18
  And
• 21:19
  this
• 21:19
  game
• 21:19
  is
• 21:19
  so
• 21:20
  evident
• 21:20
  of
• 21:20
  that.
• 21:20
  The
• 21:21
  end
• 21:21
  of
• 21:21
  the
• 21:21
  first
• 21:21
  quarter,
• 21:21
  it
• 21:22
  was
• 21:22
  1917.
• 21:23
  In
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  migraine
• 21:24
  game,
• 21:24
  Chicago
• 21:24
  was
• 21:25
  Bulls.
• 21:25
  The
• 21:25
  Bulls
• 21:26
  also
• 21:26
  have
• 21:26
  Ed
• 21:27
  Healey
• 21:27
  on
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  floor
• 21:28
  instead
• 21:28
  of
• 21:29
  Pippen.
• 21:29
  Yeah.
• 21:30
  Did
• 21:30
  you
• 21:31
  recall
• 21:31
  the
• 21:32
  fantastic
• 21:32
  career
• 21:33
  of
• 21:33
  the
• 21:33
  Bulls
• 21:34
  Ed
• 21:34
  Healy?
• 21:35
  No,
• 21:35
  I
• 21:36
  had
• 21:36
  to
• 21:36
  go
• 21:36
  look
• 21:37
  him
• 21:37
  up
• 21:37
  because
• 21:38
  you
• 21:38
  pointed
• 21:39
  out
• 21:39
  how.
• 21:39
  Whether
• 21:39
  it
• 21:40
  was.
• 21:40
  It
• 21:40
  was.
• 21:41
  Whoever
• 21:42
  it
• 21:42
  was,
• 21:42
  it
• 21:42
  was
• 21:43
  a
• 21:43
  former
• 21:43
  player.
• 21:43
  I
• 21:44
  know
• 21:44
  that
• 21:44
  was
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  color
• 21:45
  guy
• 21:45
  with.
• 21:45
  With
• 21:45
  Verne.
• 21:46
  And
• 21:47
  oh,
• 21:47
  you
• 21:47
  talk
• 21:47
  about
• 21:48
  when
• 21:48
  he.
• 21:48
  When
• 21:48
  he
• 21:48
  said,
• 21:49
  what
• 21:49
  do
• 21:50
  you
• 21:50
  think
• 21:50
  when
• 21:50
  Pippen
• 21:51
  comes
• 21:51
  off
• 21:51
  like
• 21:51
  four
• 21:51
  minutes
• 21:52
  into
• 21:52
  the
• 21:52
  game,
• 21:52
  he's
• 21:52
  like,
• 21:53
  well,
• 21:53
  what
• 21:53
  do
• 21:53
  you
• 21:53
  think
• 21:53
  about
• 21:54
  Ed
• 21:54
  Healy
• 21:54
  coming
• 21:54
  in?
• 21:55
  Yeah.
• 21:55
  What
• 21:55
  do
• 21:55
  you
• 21:55
  think
• 21:56
  about
• 21:56
  this
• 21:56
  decision?
• 21:57
  And
• 21:58
  he's
• 21:58
  just
• 21:58
  like,
• 21:58
  well,
• 21:58
  Phil
• 21:59
  Jackson
• 21:59
  knows
• 22:00
  exactly
• 22:00
  what
• 22:00
  he's
• 22:00
  got
• 22:01
  to
• 22:01
  do
• 22:01
  right
• 22:01
  now
• 22:01
  because
• 22:02
  this
• 22:02
  is
• 22:02
  going
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  be
• 22:02
  a
• 22:02
  long
• 22:03
  battle.
• 22:03
  He
• 22:04
  says.
• 22:04
  He
• 22:05
  says,
• 22:05
  well,
• 22:05
  he
• 22:05
  knows
• 22:05
  he's
• 22:06
  going
• 22:06
  to
• 22:06
  need
• 22:06
  everybody
• 22:07
  on
• 22:07
  that
• 22:07
  bench
• 22:07
  tonight.
• 22:08
  Yeah.
• 22:08
  Yeah.
• 22:08
  And
• 22:09
  it
• 22:09
  was
• 22:09
  like
• 22:09
  four
• 22:09
  minutes
• 22:10
  into
• 22:10
  the
• 22:10
  game.
• 22:10
  He
• 22:11
  needs
• 22:11
  Scottie
• 22:12
  Pippen
• 22:12
  to
• 22:12
  take
• 22:13
  a
• 22:13
  breather.
• 22:14
  Now's
• 22:14
  the
• 22:14
  time.
• 22:15
  Oh,
• 22:15
  my
• 22:16
  gosh.
• 22:16
  Yeah.
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  don't
• 22:17
  know,
• 22:17
  but
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  mean,
• 22:18
  again,
• 22:19
  I.
• 22:20
  The.
• 22:21
  I
• 22:21
  would
• 22:22
  say
• 22:22
  if
• 22:22
  anything
• 22:23
  preparing
• 22:23
  for
• 22:23
  this
• 22:23
  podcast
• 22:24
  has
• 22:25
  shifted
• 22:25
  the
• 22:26
  way
• 22:26
  I
• 22:26
  look
• 22:26
  at
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  Pistons
• 22:28
  in
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  context
• 22:29
  of
• 22:29
  the
• 22:30
  history
• 22:30
  of
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  NBA,
• 22:31
  that's
• 22:31
  a
• 22:32
  bold
• 22:32
  statement.
• 22:32
  Well,
• 22:33
  and
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  just
• 22:33
  am
• 22:33
  like,
• 22:34
  okay,
• 22:34
  three
• 22:34
  finals
• 22:35
  in
• 22:35
  a
• 22:35
  row.
• 22:36
  Yeah.
• 22:37
  In
• 22:37
  between
• 22:39
  Bird
• 22:39
  and
• 22:39
  Jordan,
• 22:40
  basically,
• 22:40
  you
• 22:41
  know,
• 22:41
  and.
• 22:42
  And
• 22:43
  they.
• 22:44
  And
• 22:44
  just
• 22:44
  like
• 22:44
  really
• 22:45
  thinking
• 22:45
  about,
• 22:46
  man.
• 22:46
  You
• 22:46
  know,
• 22:47
  we
• 22:47
  celebrate
• 22:48
  Jordan
• 22:49
  and
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  Bulls
• 22:49
  finally
• 22:50
  getting
• 22:50
  over
• 22:50
  that
• 22:51
  Pistons
• 22:51
  hump
• 22:51
  like
• 22:52
  you
• 22:52
  just
• 22:52
  said,
• 22:52
  progressively
• 22:53
  over
• 22:53
  those
• 22:53
  years.
• 22:54
  Well,
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  Pistons
• 22:55
  had
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  exact
• 22:56
  same
• 22:56
  fight
• 22:56
  against
• 22:56
  Boston.
• 22:58
  It
• 22:58
  is
• 22:58
  definitely
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  little
• 22:59
  bit
• 23:00
  more
• 23:00
  of
• 23:00
  a
• 23:00
  boring
• 23:00
  style
• 23:01
  play.
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  do
• 23:01
  think
• 23:01
  when
• 23:02
  you
• 23:02
  compare
• 23:02
  it
• 23:02
  to
• 23:02
  what
• 23:03
  we
• 23:03
  watch
• 23:03
  now,
• 23:03
  I
• 23:04
  don't
• 23:04
  know
• 23:04
  that.
• 23:05
  I
• 23:05
  mean,
• 23:05
  yeah,
• 23:06
  it's
• 23:06
  definitely
• 23:06
  way
• 23:07
  less
• 23:07
  offense,
• 23:08
  but
• 23:08
  you
• 23:09
  don't
• 23:09
  have
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  watch.
• 23:11
  I'm
• 23:12
  not
• 23:12
  going
• 23:12
  to
• 23:12
  say
• 23:12
  Luka,
• 23:13
  because
• 23:13
  I
• 23:13
  love
• 23:13
  him
• 23:13
  too
• 23:13
  much,
• 23:14
  but
• 23:14
  you
• 23:14
  don't
• 23:14
  have
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  watch.
• 23:15
  Harden
• 23:16
  try
• 23:17
  and
• 23:17
  draw
• 23:18
  70
• 23:18
  fouls
• 23:19
  a
• 23:19
  game.
• 23:19
  Lucas,
• 23:20
  sixth
• 23:20
  in
• 23:21
  the
• 23:21
  league
• 23:21
  in
• 23:21
  steals
• 23:21
  right
• 23:22
  now
• 23:22
  at
• 23:22
  1.6
• 23:23
  a
• 23:23
  game.
• 23:23
  Let's
• 23:23
  give
• 23:24
  the
• 23:24
  man
• 23:24
  his
• 23:24
  due.
• 23:25
  Yeah,
• 23:25
  Luke
• 23:25
  is
• 23:25
  great,
• 23:26
  but,
• 23:26
  you
• 23:26
  know,
• 23:26
  there's
• 23:26
  just
• 23:27
  so
• 23:27
  many
• 23:27
  of
• 23:27
  these
• 23:27
  guys
• 23:28
  now
• 23:28
  that
• 23:28
  that's
• 23:28
  become
• 23:29
  part
• 23:29
  of
• 23:29
  their.
• 23:29
  I
• 23:29
  mean,
• 23:30
  even,
• 23:30
  you
• 23:30
  know,
• 23:30
  everyone
• 23:31
  loves
• 23:31
  SGA
• 23:32
  and
• 23:32
  Oklahoma
• 23:33
  City,
• 23:33
  but
• 23:33
  that's
• 23:33
  so
• 23:34
  much
• 23:34
  part
• 23:34
  of
• 23:34
  what
• 23:34
  he
• 23:34
  is,
• 23:35
  too.
• 23:35
  Sure,
• 23:36
  he's
• 23:36
  drawn
• 23:37
  fouls
• 23:37
  and
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  mean,
• 23:37
  at
• 23:38
  some
• 23:38
  point.
• 23:38
  And
• 23:38
  I
• 23:39
  think
• 23:39
  you
• 23:39
  hear
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  A
• 23:39
  lot.
• 23:40
  You'll
• 23:40
  hear
• 23:40
  people
• 23:40
  complain
• 23:41
  about
• 23:41
  it
• 23:41
  with
• 23:41
  Harden
• 23:42
  over
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  years
• 23:43
  and
• 23:43
  definitely
• 23:43
  with
• 23:44
  Luka
• 23:44
  and
• 23:44
  there's
• 23:45
  several
• 23:45
  other
• 23:45
  things
• 23:45
  with
• 23:46
  Luca,
• 23:46
  too.
• 23:46
  But
• 23:48
  nonetheless,
• 23:49
  it's.
• 23:50
  You
• 23:50
  know,
• 23:51
  I
• 23:51
  think
• 23:51
  I.
• 23:52
  That's
• 23:52
  what
• 23:52
  I
• 23:52
  would
• 23:52
  say
• 23:52
  is
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  look
• 23:53
  back
• 23:53
  now
• 23:54
  and
• 23:54
  I
• 23:54
  do
• 23:55
  think
• 23:55
  that
• 23:55
  the
• 23:55
  Pistons
• 23:56
  deserve
• 23:56
  more
• 23:57
  respect
• 23:57
  than
• 23:57
  what
• 23:57
  I
• 23:58
  previously
• 23:58
  would
• 23:58
  have
• 23:59
  given
• 23:59
  them
• 23:59
  in
• 23:59
  terms
• 23:59
  of
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  history
• 24:01
  of
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  NBA.
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  don't
• 24:02
  think
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  thought
• 24:03
  of
• 24:03
  them
• 24:03
  as
• 24:04
  quite
• 24:06
  again,
• 24:06
  the
• 24:06
  three
• 24:07
  years
• 24:07
  and
• 24:08
  really
• 24:08
  for
• 24:08
  the
• 24:09
  mountain
• 24:09
  they
• 24:09
  had
• 24:09
  to
• 24:09
  climb
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  get
• 24:10
  over
• 24:11
  and
• 24:11
  then
• 24:11
  for
• 24:12
  who
• 24:12
  they
• 24:13
  were
• 24:13
  trying
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  hold
• 24:14
  at
• 24:14
  bay.
• 24:14
  You
• 24:15
  know,
• 24:15
  whether
• 24:15
  it
• 24:15
  be,
• 24:17
  you
• 24:17
  know,
• 24:17
  Pippin's
• 24:18
  got
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  migraine
• 24:18
  and
• 24:19
  we're
• 24:19
  dealing
• 24:19
  with
• 24:19
  Ed
• 24:19
  Healey
• 24:20
  and
• 24:21
  Superman
• 24:21
  Jordan
• 24:22
  or
• 24:22
  whatever,
• 24:22
  but
• 24:23
  you
• 24:23
  are
• 24:23
  still
• 24:24
  trying
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  hold
• 24:25
  23
• 24:26
  at
• 24:26
  bay
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  whole.
• 24:26
  As
• 24:27
  long
• 24:27
  as
• 24:27
  you
• 24:27
  can.
• 24:28
  And
• 24:28
  I
• 24:28
  think
• 24:28
  they
• 24:28
  did
• 24:28
  it
• 24:29
  as
• 24:29
  long
• 24:29
  as
• 24:29
  they
• 24:29
  would
• 24:29
  have
• 24:30
  been
• 24:30
  able
• 24:30
  to.
• 24:30
  I
• 24:30
  mean,
• 24:31
  in
• 24:31
  this
• 24:31
  game,
• 24:31
  seven
• 24:31
  is
• 24:32
  kind
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  that
• 24:33
  final
• 24:34
  time,
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  know
• 24:35
  what
• 24:35
  I
• 24:35
  mean,
• 24:36
  of
• 24:36
  getting
• 24:37
  over
• 24:37
  that.
• 24:38
  Well,
• 24:38
  you're
• 24:39
  also,
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  mean,
• 24:39
  like
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  Bulls
• 24:41
  basically
• 24:42
  went
• 24:42
  back
• 24:42
  to
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  board
• 24:43
  and
• 24:44
  basically
• 24:44
  said,
• 24:44
  how
• 24:45
  can
• 24:45
  we
• 24:45
  beat
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  Pistons?
• 24:46
  And
• 24:46
  that's
• 24:47
  what
• 24:47
  ends
• 24:47
  up
• 24:47
  happening
• 24:48
  the
• 24:48
  following
• 24:48
  year.
• 24:48
  I'm
• 24:48
  sure
• 24:49
  that
• 24:49
  we'll
• 24:49
  do
• 24:49
  another
• 24:50
  podcast
• 24:50
  about
• 24:50
  that
• 24:51
  series
• 24:51
  next.
• 24:52
  You
• 24:52
  know,
• 24:52
  we
• 24:52
  get
• 24:52
  to
• 24:53
  91,
• 24:53
  but,
• 24:54
  you
• 24:54
  know,
• 24:55
  like
• 24:56
  a
• 24:57
  team
• 24:57
  like
• 24:57
  that
• 24:57
  gets
• 24:57
  a
• 24:58
  year
• 24:58
  older
• 24:59
  and
• 24:59
  then
• 24:59
  a
• 24:59
  young
• 24:59
  team
• 25:00
  like
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  Bulls
• 25:01
  gets
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  year
• 25:01
  older.
• 25:03
  And
• 25:03
  basically
• 25:04
  like
• 25:05
  that,
• 25:06
  whatever
• 25:06
  the
• 25:07
  percentage
• 25:07
  of
• 25:07
  difference
• 25:08
  between
• 25:08
  these
• 25:08
  two
• 25:08
  teams
• 25:09
  is,
• 25:09
  it
• 25:09
  just
• 25:09
  flips
• 25:10
  and
• 25:11
  that
• 25:11
  team
• 25:11
  becomes
• 25:12
  this
• 25:12
  much
• 25:12
  better
• 25:12
  than
• 25:13
  that
• 25:13
  other
• 25:13
  team.
• 25:13
  And
• 25:14
  that's
• 25:14
  just
• 25:14
  how
• 25:15
  a
• 25:15
  dynasty,
• 25:16
  you
• 25:16
  know,
• 25:16
  naturally
• 25:17
  dies,
• 25:18
  more
• 25:18
  or
• 25:19
  less.
• 25:19
  But,
• 25:20
  you
• 25:20
  know,
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  thing,
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  reason
• 25:23
  this
• 25:23
  game
• 25:23
  has
• 25:24
  kind
• 25:24
  of
• 25:24
  lived
• 25:24
  in
• 25:25
  infamy,
• 25:25
  if
• 25:25
  we
• 25:26
  can
• 25:26
  talk
• 25:26
  about
• 25:26
  Pippin
• 25:27
  for
• 25:27
  a
• 25:27
  second,
• 25:28
  because
• 25:28
  this
• 25:28
  is.
• 25:29
  This
• 25:29
  is
• 25:29
  known
• 25:29
  as
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  migraine
• 25:30
  game.
• 25:30
  You
• 25:30
  go
• 25:30
  to
• 25:31
  YouTube,
• 25:31
  you
• 25:31
  type
• 25:31
  in
• 25:32
  migraine
• 25:32
  game,
• 25:32
  this
• 25:33
  thing
• 25:33
  pops
• 25:33
  up
• 25:35
  and
• 25:35
  Pippin
• 25:36
  begins
• 25:37
  to
• 25:37
  experience
• 25:37
  the
• 25:38
  migraine
• 25:38
  the
• 25:39
  day
• 25:39
  before.
• 25:40
  He
• 25:40
  says
• 25:40
  he's
• 25:41
  blacking
• 25:41
  out.
• 25:42
  Like,
• 25:42
  just
• 25:42
  vision
• 25:43
  wise,
• 25:43
  he's
• 25:43
  blacking
• 25:44
  out
• 25:45
  and
• 25:45
  tries
• 25:45
  to
• 25:46
  play
• 25:47
  place.
• 25:47
  40,
• 25:47
  42
• 25:48
  minutes.
• 25:48
  Yeah.
• 25:50
  How
• 25:51
  does
• 25:51
  this
• 25:51
  happen?
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  don't
• 25:52
  know.
• 25:53
  That's
• 25:53
  what
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  want
• 25:54
  to
• 25:54
  know.
• 25:54
  He's
• 25:55
  1
• 25:55
  for
• 25:55
  10.
• 25:55
  You
• 25:56
  can
• 25:56
  tell
• 25:56
  out
• 25:57
  there
• 25:57
  on
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  now,
• 25:57
  Grant.
• 25:57
  It's
• 25:58
  all
• 25:58
  hindsight.
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  get
• 25:59
  it.
• 25:59
  You
• 25:59
  can
• 25:59
  tell
• 26:00
  on
• 26:00
  the
• 26:00
  floor.
• 26:01
  He's
• 26:01
  missing
• 26:02
  layups,
• 26:02
  he's
• 26:03
  missing
• 26:03
  8
• 26:03
  footers,
• 26:04
  he's
• 26:04
  missing
• 26:04
  like
• 26:06
  they're,
• 26:06
  you
• 26:07
  know,
• 26:07
  smashing
• 26:08
  ice
• 26:08
  packs
• 26:08
  on
• 26:08
  at
• 26:09
  the
• 26:09
  back
• 26:09
  of
• 26:09
  his
• 26:09
  neck
• 26:09
  because
• 26:10
  they
• 26:10
  just
• 26:10
  can't
• 26:10
  do
• 26:10
  anything
• 26:11
  for
• 26:11
  him.
• 26:12
  He
• 26:12
  can't
• 26:12
  see
• 26:13
  out
• 26:13
  there,
• 26:14
  like,
• 26:14
  I
• 26:14
  mean,
• 26:15
  well,
• 26:16
  we
• 26:16
  want
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  talk
• 26:16
  about
• 26:17
  things
• 26:17
  that
• 26:17
  are
• 26:17
  unfair
• 26:18
  or
• 26:19
  maybe
• 26:20
  like
• 26:21
  Pippin
• 26:21
  still
• 26:22
  getting
• 26:22
  crap
• 26:22
  for
• 26:23
  this
• 26:23
  is
• 26:23
  so.
• 26:24
  It's
• 26:24
  just
• 26:25
  ridiculously
• 26:26
  unfair.
• 26:27
  And
• 26:27
  the
• 26:27
  last
• 26:28
  dance
• 26:29
  was
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  biggest,
• 26:30
  like
• 26:31
  to
• 26:31
  me,
• 26:32
  I
• 26:32
  went
• 26:32
  back
• 26:32
  and
• 26:33
  re
• 26:33
  watched
• 26:33
  that
• 26:33
  part
• 26:33
  too
• 26:34
  of
• 26:34
  the
• 26:34
  last
• 26:34
  dance
• 26:35
  and
• 26:35
  I'm
• 26:35
  like,
• 26:36
  oh
• 26:36
  my
• 26:36
  gosh,
• 26:37
  guys,
• 26:37
  this
• 26:38
  is
• 26:38
  again
• 26:39
  because
• 26:39
  that
• 26:40
  one
• 26:40
  makes
• 26:40
  it
• 26:40
  feel
• 26:40
  even
• 26:41
  closer
• 26:41
  in
• 26:41
  my
• 26:42
  mind
• 26:42
  at
• 26:42
  some
• 26:42
  point
• 26:43
  towards
• 26:43
  the
• 26:43
  very
• 26:43
  tail
• 26:44
  end
• 26:44
  of
• 26:44
  it,
• 26:44
  they're
• 26:44
  like,
• 26:44
  Detroit
• 26:45
  handily
• 26:45
  gets
• 26:46
  the
• 26:46
  win
• 26:46
  or
• 26:46
  whatever.
• 26:47
  I
• 26:47
  don't
• 26:47
  know.
• 26:47
  But
• 26:48
  at
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  same
• 26:49
  time
• 26:49
  I'm
• 26:49
  just
• 26:49
  like,
• 26:49
  what
• 26:50
  are
• 26:50
  we
• 26:50
  doing?
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  mean,
• 26:51
  it
• 26:51
  was
• 26:51
  a
• 26:51
  19
• 26:52
  point
• 26:52
  game.
• 26:53
  Again,
• 26:54
  Pippin
• 26:55
  probably
• 26:55
  does
• 26:55
  make
• 26:56
  a
• 26:56
  difference.
• 26:56
  I'm
• 26:57
  not
• 26:57
  a
• 26:57
  healthy
• 26:58
  Pippin
• 26:58
  obviously
• 26:59
  makes
• 26:59
  a
• 26:59
  difference,
• 27:00
  but.
• 27:00
  Oh,
• 27:01
  I,
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  think
• 27:01
  Pip,
• 27:02
  I
• 27:02
  think
• 27:02
  if
• 27:02
  they
• 27:02
  have
• 27:02
  Pippen
• 27:03
  and
• 27:03
  Paxton,
• 27:03
  this
• 27:03
  thing
• 27:03
  goes
• 27:04
  down
• 27:04
  to
• 27:04
  the
• 27:04
  wire.
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  mean,
• 27:06
  Billy
• 27:06
  shot
• 27:06
  67%
• 27:07
  from
• 27:08
  the
• 27:08
  floor,
• 27:08
  so
• 27:08
  he
• 27:08
  wasn't
• 27:10
  two
• 27:10
  for
• 27:10
  three.
• 27:11
  Two
• 27:11
  of
• 27:11
  three.
• 27:11
  Two
• 27:12
  of
• 27:12
  three.
• 27:12
  Yeah,
• 27:13
  but
• 27:14
  still.
• 27:14
  But
• 27:15
  hey,
• 27:15
  he
• 27:15
  made
• 27:16
  both
• 27:16
  of
• 27:16
  his
• 27:16
  free
• 27:16
  throws.
• 27:17
  Gosh,
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  know,
• 27:18
  100%
• 27:19
  from
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  stripe.
• 27:21
  To
• 27:21
  borrow
• 27:22
  something
• 27:22
  from
• 27:23
  our
• 27:23
  esteemed
• 27:24
  leader,
• 27:24
  Bill
• 27:24
  Simmons,
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  really
• 27:26
  wonder
• 27:26
  who
• 27:26
  market
• 27:27
  corrected
• 27:27
  that
• 27:29
  white
• 27:30
  mid
• 27:31
  sized
• 27:32
  forward.
• 27:33
  Yeah.
• 27:34
  Because
• 27:34
  I.
• 27:35
  And
• 27:35
  maybe
• 27:36
  I'm
• 27:36
  wrong.
• 27:36
  Maybe
• 27:36
  that
• 27:36
  still
• 27:37
  exists.
• 27:39
  I
• 27:39
  feel
• 27:39
  like
• 27:39
  that
• 27:40
  guy
• 27:40
  gave
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  torch
• 27:41
  to
• 27:41
  Will
• 27:42
  Perdue
• 27:42
  and
• 27:43
  Bill
• 27:43
  Winnington
• 27:44
  and
• 27:45
  those
• 27:45
  guys.
• 27:46
  To
• 27:46
  a
• 27:46
  certain
• 27:47
  degree,
• 27:48
  it
• 27:48
  may
• 27:48
  be
• 27:48
  food
• 27:48
  for
• 27:49
  thought
• 27:49
  that
• 27:49
  we
• 27:49
  can
• 27:49
  look
• 27:49
  at
• 27:50
  down
• 27:50
  the
• 27:50
  line.
• 27:50
  But
• 27:51
  sure.
• 27:51
  Like
• 27:51
  I'm
• 27:52
  just
• 27:52
  sitting
• 27:52
  there
• 27:52
  going,
• 27:54
  Ed
• 27:54
  Healey.
• 27:55
  Oh,
• 27:55
  no.
• 27:55
  Like
• 27:56
  you
• 27:56
  could
• 27:56
  tell
• 27:56
  it
• 27:57
  was
• 27:57
  that
• 27:57
  this
• 27:57
  is.
• 27:58
  That
• 27:58
  team
• 27:58
  does
• 27:58
  not
• 27:59
  run.
• 28:00
  Not
• 28:00
  having
• 28:00
  Paxton
• 28:01
  out
• 28:01
  there
• 28:01
  to
• 28:02
  open
• 28:02
  the
• 28:02
  floor
• 28:02
  up,
• 28:03
  to
• 28:03
  extend
• 28:04
  the
• 28:04
  floor,
• 28:04
  basically,
• 28:06
  you
• 28:07
  know,
• 28:07
  to
• 28:08
  stretch
• 28:08
  that
• 28:09
  perimeter
• 28:09
  was
• 28:09
  huge
• 28:10
  in
• 28:10
  this
• 28:10
  game.
• 28:11
  They
• 28:11
  could
• 28:11
  just,
• 28:11
  they
• 28:12
  just
• 28:12
  camped.
• 28:13
  Anytime
• 28:13
  Jordan
• 28:14
  brought
• 28:14
  the
• 28:14
  ball
• 28:14
  in,
• 28:14
  he
• 28:14
  was
• 28:14
  on
• 28:15
  his,
• 28:15
  he
• 28:15
  was
• 28:15
  on
• 28:16
  his
• 28:16
  tail.
• 28:16
  Like
• 28:17
  they
• 28:17
  were
• 28:17
  just
• 28:17
  putting
• 28:18
  people
• 28:18
  down.
• 28:18
  They
• 28:18
  didn't
• 28:18
  care.
• 28:19
  Go
• 28:19
  shoot
• 28:20
  free
• 28:20
  throws.
• 28:21
  So
• 28:21
  like
• 28:21
  it
• 28:22
  just,
• 28:22
  I
• 28:22
  don't
• 28:22
  know,
• 28:22
  is
• 28:23
  an
• 28:23
  ugly
• 28:23
  game.
• 28:24
  Another
• 28:24
  guy
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  was
• 28:25
  thinking
• 28:25
  of
• 28:25
  was
• 28:26
  James
• 28:26
  Edwards.
• 28:27
  Yeah,
• 28:28
  because
• 28:29
  you
• 28:29
  had
• 28:29
  Edward,
• 28:29
  Sally
• 28:30
  Rodman.
• 28:31
  And
• 28:31
  Mahorn
• 28:32
  was
• 28:32
  actually
• 28:32
  already
• 28:33
  gone.
• 28:34
  Yeah,
• 28:34
  he
• 28:34
  was
• 28:35
  gone.
• 28:35
  So
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  apologize.
• 28:36
  But
• 28:36
  he
• 28:36
  was
• 28:36
  definitely
• 28:36
  part
• 28:37
  of
• 28:37
  that.
• 28:37
  I
• 28:37
  mean,
• 28:38
  he
• 28:38
  was
• 28:38
  there
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  two
• 28:38
  years
• 28:39
  prior
• 28:39
  to
• 28:39
  and
• 28:40
  he
• 28:40
  was
• 28:40
  definitely
• 28:41
  a
• 28:42
  big,
• 28:43
  imposing
• 28:44
  physical
• 28:45
  guy
• 28:45
  down
• 28:45
  low.
• 28:46
  So
• 28:46
  he
• 28:46
  was
• 28:46
  kind
• 28:47
  of
• 28:47
  in
• 28:47
  the.
• 28:47
  Same,
• 28:47
  like
• 28:48
  looking
• 28:48
  at
• 28:48
  the
• 28:48
  games
• 28:48
  played
• 28:49
  in
• 28:49
  this
• 28:49
  team,
• 28:49
  you
• 28:50
  know,
• 28:50
  And
• 28:50
  I
• 28:51
  want
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  get
• 28:51
  back
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  Pippin
• 28:52
  real
• 28:52
  quick,
• 28:52
  but
• 28:53
  Mark
• 28:54
  Aguire
• 28:54
  played
• 28:54
  78
• 28:55
  games.
• 28:56
  James
• 28:57
  Edwards
• 28:57
  played
• 28:57
  82.
• 28:58
  Vinnie
• 28:58
  Johnson
• 28:58
  played
• 28:58
  82.
• 28:59
  Lambert
• 29:00
  played
• 29:00
  81,
• 29:00
  Rodman
• 29:01
  played
• 29:01
  82.
• 29:02
  Sally
• 29:02
  played
• 29:02
  82.
• 29:03
  Isaiah
• 29:03
  Thomas,
• 29:04
  played
• 29:04
  81.
• 29:05
  Never
• 29:05
  happening.
• 29:06
  You're
• 29:06
  never
• 29:06
  in
• 29:07
  the
• 29:07
  NBA
• 29:08
  in
• 29:08
  its
• 29:08
  current
• 29:08
  state
• 29:09
  and
• 29:09
  form.
• 29:10
  Are
• 29:10
  you
• 29:10
  ever
• 29:11
  going
• 29:11
  to
• 29:11
  have
• 29:11
  six,
• 29:12
  seven
• 29:13
  Dumars
• 29:13
  played
• 29:14
  75,
• 29:15
  play
• 29:15
  75
• 29:15
  games
• 29:16
  that
• 29:16
  year?
• 29:16
  So
• 29:16
  you've
• 29:16
  got
• 29:17
  seven
• 29:17
  guys,
• 29:18
  eight
• 29:18
  guys.
• 29:19
  Eight
• 29:19
  guys,
• 29:20
  eight
• 29:20
  guys
• 29:20
  that
• 29:21
  played
• 29:21
  75
• 29:21
  games
• 29:22
  are
• 29:22
  over.
• 29:22
  That's
• 29:22
  insane.
• 29:23
  That
• 29:23
  is
• 29:24
  crazy.
• 29:24
  And
• 29:25
  really
• 29:25
  they
• 29:25
  have
• 29:25
  an
• 29:26
  eight
• 29:26
  man
• 29:26
  rotation,
• 29:26
  their
• 29:27
  entire
• 29:27
  rotation
• 29:28
  played.
• 29:28
  Because
• 29:29
  once
• 29:29
  you
• 29:29
  get
• 29:29
  beyond
• 29:30
  that,
• 29:30
  you're
• 29:30
  at
• 29:30
  Gerald
• 29:31
  Henderson,
• 29:31
  who
• 29:31
  was
• 29:31
  only
• 29:32
  seven
• 29:32
  minutes
• 29:32
  a
• 29:32
  game,
• 29:33
  William
• 29:33
  Bedford,
• 29:33
  five
• 29:34
  minutes
• 29:34
  game.
• 29:35
  So
• 29:35
  I
• 29:35
  mean
• 29:35
  they're
• 29:35
  not,
• 29:36
  they,
• 29:36
  they
• 29:37
  had
• 29:37
  their
• 29:37
  eight
• 29:37
  and
• 29:38
  their
• 29:38
  eight
• 29:38
  basically
• 29:39
  didn't
• 29:40
  sit
• 29:40
  much.
• 29:41
  Didn't
• 29:42
  sit
• 29:42
  much
• 29:42
  at
• 29:42
  all.
• 29:43
  You
• 29:43
  had.
• 29:45
  Go
• 29:45
  ahead,
• 29:46
  man.
• 29:46
  I'm
• 29:46
  sorry.
• 29:46
  Well,
• 29:46
  no,
• 29:47
  I
• 29:47
  was
• 29:47
  just
• 29:47
  going
• 29:47
  to
• 29:47
  say,
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  mean
• 29:48
  it's,
• 29:49
  it,
• 29:49
  you're
• 29:49
  right,
• 29:50
  that,
• 29:50
  that
• 29:50
  won't
• 29:50
  ever
• 29:51
  happen
• 29:51
  again.
• 29:52
  And
• 29:52
  it
• 29:52
  may,
• 29:52
  we
• 29:53
  may
• 29:53
  get
• 29:53
  to
• 29:53
  a
• 29:53
  point
• 29:53
  soon
• 29:53
  in
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  NBA
• 29:54
  where
• 29:54
  it's
• 29:54
  not
• 29:54
  even
• 29:55
  an
• 29:55
  option
• 29:55
  if
• 29:55
  they
• 29:55
  end
• 29:56
  up
• 29:56
  adjusting
• 29:56
  games
• 29:57
  down
• 29:57
  or
• 29:57
  whatever.
• 29:59
  But
• 30:00
  it's,
• 30:01
  it's
• 30:01
  again,
• 30:01
  it's
• 30:02
  kind
• 30:02
  of
• 30:02
  comparing
• 30:03
  these
• 30:04
  eras
• 30:05
  and
• 30:05
  I
• 30:05
  can,
• 30:05
  again,
• 30:06
  I
• 30:06
  completely
• 30:06
  understand
• 30:07
  why
• 30:07
  the
• 30:07
  Pistons
• 30:08
  get
• 30:08
  a
• 30:08
  bad
• 30:09
  rap
• 30:09
  for
• 30:09
  their
• 30:10
  style
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  play.
• 30:11
  But
• 30:11
  I
• 30:11
  do
• 30:11
  wonder
• 30:12
  like,
• 30:12
  so
• 30:13
  you
• 30:13
  know,
• 30:14
  a
• 30:14
  14,
• 30:15
  15
• 30:15
  year
• 30:15
  old
• 30:16
  NBA
• 30:17
  fanatic
• 30:17
  right
• 30:17
  now,
• 30:18
  what
• 30:18
  do
• 30:19
  they
• 30:19
  think
• 30:19
  when
• 30:19
  they
• 30:20
  look
• 30:20
  back
• 30:20
  at
• 30:20
  those
• 30:20
  games?
• 30:21
  You
• 30:22
  know,
• 30:22
  so
• 30:22
  their
• 30:22
  time
• 30:22
  right
• 30:23
  now
• 30:23
  has
• 30:23
  been
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  last.
• 30:24
  Let's
• 30:24
  say
• 30:24
  they
• 30:24
  got
• 30:24
  into
• 30:25
  it
• 30:25
  seven
• 30:25
  or
• 30:25
  eight
• 30:25
  years
• 30:26
  old
• 30:26
  like
• 30:26
  we
• 30:26
  did.
• 30:27
  They've
• 30:27
  been
• 30:27
  fans
• 30:28
  for
• 30:28
  seven,
• 30:29
  eight
• 30:29
  years.
• 30:29
  They
• 30:30
  probably
• 30:30
  love
• 30:31
  LeBron,
• 30:32
  they
• 30:32
  probably
• 30:33
  love
• 30:33
  Luka,
• 30:34
  whatever,
• 30:34
  you
• 30:35
  know.
• 30:35
  But
• 30:35
  when
• 30:36
  they
• 30:36
  look
• 30:36
  back
• 30:36
  at
• 30:36
  this,
• 30:37
  are
• 30:37
  they
• 30:37
  just
• 30:37
  like
• 30:38
  vomit
• 30:38
  or
• 30:39
  they
• 30:39
  like,
• 30:40
  dang,
• 30:40
  that
• 30:40
  looked
• 30:41
  kind
• 30:41
  of
• 30:41
  crazy,
• 30:41
  that
• 30:42
  looked
• 30:42
  just
• 30:42
  wild.
• 30:43
  My
• 30:43
  mom
• 30:44
  in
• 30:44
  high
• 30:44
  school
• 30:44
  grew
• 30:45
  up
• 30:45
  playing
• 30:45
  three,
• 30:46
  playing
• 30:46
  six
• 30:46
  on
• 30:47
  six
• 30:47
  where
• 30:47
  it
• 30:47
  was
• 30:47
  three
• 30:48
  on
• 30:48
  three
• 30:48
  on
• 30:48
  both
• 30:48
  ends.
• 30:49
  And
• 30:50
  when
• 30:50
  she
• 30:50
  told
• 30:50
  me
• 30:51
  that
• 30:51
  for
• 30:51
  the
• 30:51
  first
• 30:51
  time
• 30:52
  as
• 30:52
  a
• 30:52
  young
• 30:52
  child
• 30:53
  and
• 30:53
  I
• 30:54
  was
• 30:54
  trying
• 30:54
  to
• 30:54
  wrap
• 30:54
  my
• 30:55
  head
• 30:55
  around
• 30:56
  what
• 30:56
  I
• 30:56
  see
• 30:57
  on
• 30:57
  TV
• 30:58
  with
• 30:58
  Bird
• 30:58
  and
• 30:59
  Magic
• 30:59
  to,
• 31:00
  hey,
• 31:01
  so
• 31:01
  we
• 31:01
  had
• 31:01
  two
• 31:02
  halves
• 31:02
  of
• 31:03
  three
• 31:03
  on
• 31:03
  three
• 31:03
  and
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  couldn't
• 31:04
  go
• 31:04
  past
• 31:04
  half
• 31:05
  court
• 31:05
  and
• 31:05
  you
• 31:05
  had
• 31:06
  to
• 31:06
  pass.
• 31:06
  And
• 31:06
  I'm
• 31:07
  like,
• 31:07
  wait,
• 31:07
  what?
• 31:08
  Like,
• 31:08
  I
• 31:08
  don't,
• 31:09
  I
• 31:09
  don't
• 31:09
  think
• 31:09
  it's
• 31:10
  anything
• 31:10
  mind
• 31:10
  blowing
• 31:11
  as
• 31:11
  that,
• 31:11
  but
• 31:11
  it
• 31:11
  can't
• 31:12
  be
• 31:12
  that
• 31:12
  far
• 31:12
  off.
• 31:13
  Like
• 31:13
  if
• 31:14
  I
• 31:14
  tried
• 31:14
  to
• 31:14
  sit
• 31:15
  a
• 31:16
  kid
• 31:16
  in
• 31:16
  their
• 31:17
  teens
• 31:17
  down
• 31:17
  to
• 31:18
  watch
• 31:18
  this
• 31:18
  game,
• 31:19
  I
• 31:19
  can't
• 31:19
  imagine
• 31:20
  they
• 31:20
  make
• 31:20
  it
• 31:21
  very
• 31:21
  far
• 31:21
  past
• 31:21
  first
• 31:22
  quarter.
• 31:22
  I
• 31:22
  mean
• 31:22
  you're
• 31:23
  selling
• 31:23
  it
• 31:23
  to
• 31:23
  them
• 31:24
  as
• 31:24
  it's
• 31:24
  Jordan,
• 31:25
  it's
• 31:25
  a
• 31:25
  game
• 31:26
  seven
• 31:26
  with
• 31:26
  the
• 31:27
  greatest
• 31:27
  player
• 31:27
  ever.
• 31:28
  Do
• 31:28
  you
• 31:29
  want
• 31:29
  to
• 31:29
  sit
• 31:29
  down
• 31:29
  and
• 31:29
  watch
• 31:29
  it,
• 31:30
  young
• 31:30
  buck.
• 31:30
  And
• 31:30
  they
• 31:31
  sit
• 31:31
  down
• 31:31
  and
• 31:31
  at
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  end
• 31:32
  of
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  first
• 31:32
  quarter
• 31:33
  they're
• 31:33
  like,
• 31:34
  can
• 31:34
  we
• 31:34
  get
• 31:34
  on
• 31:35
  TikTok
• 31:35
  instead?
• 31:36
  Yeah,
• 31:37
  there's
• 31:37
  no
• 31:37
  chance.
• 31:37
  They're
• 31:38
  not
• 31:38
  checking
• 31:38
  their
• 31:38
  phone
• 31:38
  14
• 31:39
  times
• 31:39
  in
• 31:39
  the
• 31:39
  first
• 31:40
  quarter.
• 31:40
  Yeah,
• 31:41
  exactly.
• 31:41
  There's
• 31:41
  just
• 31:41
  no
• 31:41
  chance.
• 31:42
  But
• 31:43
  anyway,
• 31:43
  it's.
• 31:46
  Did
• 31:46
  want
• 31:46
  to
• 31:46
  point
• 31:47
  out
• 31:47
  Ed
• 31:47
  Neely.
• 31:48
  Hit
• 31:48
  me.
• 31:48
  Ed
• 31:48
  Neely,
• 31:49
  10
• 31:49
  year
• 31:49
  career,
• 31:50
  played
• 31:50
  in
• 31:50
  540
• 31:51
  games
• 31:52
  in
• 31:52
  the
• 31:52
  NBA.
• 31:53
  This
• 31:53
  guy.
• 31:53
  Yeah,
• 31:54
  I
• 31:54
  mean
• 31:54
  he
• 31:54
  didn't
• 31:55
  really.
• 31:56
  I
• 31:56
  mean
• 31:56
  he
• 31:56
  was
• 31:56
  never,
• 31:57
  never
• 31:57
  a
• 31:57
  star,
• 31:58
  but
• 31:58
  I
• 31:58
  mean
• 31:58
  he,
• 31:59
  I
• 31:59
  mean
• 31:59
  he
• 31:59
  never
• 31:59
  even
• 31:59
  averaged
• 32:00
  over
• 32:00
  four
• 32:00
  and
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  half
• 32:01
  points
• 32:01
  in
• 32:01
  the
• 32:01
  game
• 32:01
  in
• 32:02
  a,
• 32:02
  in
• 32:02
  a
• 32:02
  per
• 32:03
  game,
• 32:03
  in
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  season
• 32:04
  and.
• 32:04
  But
• 32:05
  he
• 32:06
  definitely
• 32:06
  had
• 32:06
  a
• 32:06
  role.
• 32:08
  Stuck
• 32:08
  around
• 32:08
  and
• 32:09
  he
• 32:09
  finally
• 32:09
  did
• 32:10
  get
• 32:10
  like.
• 32:10
  So
• 32:10
  the
• 32:11
  year
• 32:11
  after
• 32:11
  this,
• 32:11
  he
• 32:12
  leaves
• 32:12
  and
• 32:12
  goes
• 32:12
  to
• 32:12
  Phoenix.
• 32:13
  I
• 32:13
  don't
• 32:13
  want
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  make
• 32:13
  this
• 32:14
  the
• 32:14
  Ed
• 32:14
  Neely
• 32:14
  podcast.
• 32:15
  Oh,
• 32:16
  I
• 32:16
  did.
• 32:16
  God
• 32:16
  bless.
• 32:17
  Because
• 32:17
  Ed
• 32:18
  comes
• 32:18
  back
• 32:19
  to
• 32:19
  Chicago
• 32:20
  and
• 32:20
  gets
• 32:20
  a
• 32:20
  ring.
• 32:21
  92,
• 32:22
  93.
• 32:22
  Now
• 32:22
  see,
• 32:23
  now
• 32:23
  see,
• 32:24
  that's
• 32:25
  exciting.
• 32:26
  I
• 32:27
  say
• 32:27
  he
• 32:27
  did.
• 32:27
  I
• 32:28
  mean,
• 32:28
  he
• 32:28
  played
• 32:28
  11
• 32:29
  games.
• 32:29
  I
• 32:30
  don't
• 32:30
  think
• 32:30
  it
• 32:30
  was
• 32:30
  on
• 32:30
  the
• 32:31
  playoff
• 32:31
  squad.
• 32:31
  Yeah,
• 32:32
  I
• 32:32
  think
• 32:32
  if
• 32:32
  you
• 32:32
  play
• 32:32
  anything.
• 32:33
  You're
• 32:33
  on
• 32:33
  in
• 32:33
  baseball.
• 32:34
  You
• 32:34
  do.
• 32:34
  I
• 32:34
  don't
• 32:34
  know
• 32:35
  if
• 32:35
  basketball.
• 32:35
  If
• 32:35
  you
• 32:36
  do
• 32:36
  or
• 32:36
  not.
• 32:36
  I
• 32:36
  would
• 32:36
  have
• 32:37
  to
• 32:37
  think.
• 32:37
  Because
• 32:37
  I
• 32:37
  would
• 32:37
  think
• 32:38
  it's
• 32:38
  even
• 32:38
  less
• 32:38
  dudes
• 32:39
  in
• 32:39
  basketball,
• 32:40
  obviously.
• 32:40
  Less
• 32:40
  dudes.
• 32:41
  Dudes
• 32:41
  that,
• 32:41
  you
• 32:42
  know,
• 32:43
  I
• 32:43
  mean,
• 32:43
  that's
• 32:43
  Jordan's
• 32:44
  first
• 32:44
  ring.
• 32:44
  Surely
• 32:45
  they're
• 32:45
  giving
• 32:45
  everybody
• 32:46
  a
• 32:46
  ring.
• 32:46
  Yeah,
• 32:48
  yeah.
• 32:49
  No,
• 32:49
  this
• 32:49
  would
• 32:50
  have
• 32:50
  been
• 32:50
  Jordan's
• 32:50
  second
• 32:51
  ring.
• 32:52
  92.
• 32:53
  93.
• 32:53
  Right.
• 32:54
  He
• 32:55
  would
• 32:55
  have
• 32:55
  won
• 32:56
  1991.
• 32:57
  91.
• 32:57
  Actually
• 32:57
  it's
• 32:58
  his
• 32:58
  third
• 32:58
  ring.
• 32:58
  This
• 32:59
  is
• 32:59
  right
• 32:59
  before
• 32:59
  everything,
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  end
• 33:00
  of
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  trilogy.
• 33:00
  This
• 33:01
  is
• 33:01
  against
• 33:01
  the
• 33:01
  Suns
• 33:02
  and
• 33:02
  Barkley,
• 33:03
  who
• 33:03
  Gotcha.
• 33:04
  Interesting
• 33:04
  enough,
• 33:05
  Ed
• 33:05
  Healy
• 33:05
  just
• 33:06
  left,
• 33:06
  left
• 33:06
  Phoenix
• 33:07
  that
• 33:07
  year
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  come
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  Chicago.
• 33:09
  Wow.
• 33:09
  So
• 33:09
  he
• 33:10
  was
• 33:10
  getting
• 33:10
  a
• 33:10
  ring
• 33:10
  either
• 33:10
  way.
• 33:11
  Maybe.
• 33:12
  I
• 33:12
  guess
• 33:12
  I
• 33:13
  always
• 33:13
  like
• 33:13
  it.
• 33:13
  I
• 33:13
  may
• 33:14
  be
• 33:14
  off
• 33:14
  on
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  team.
• 33:14
  There,
• 33:15
  but
• 33:15
  always
• 33:15
  like
• 33:15
  it
• 33:16
  when
• 33:16
  the
• 33:16
  World
• 33:16
  Series
• 33:17
  is
• 33:18
  set
• 33:18
  and
• 33:19
  then
• 33:19
  like
• 33:19
  somebody
• 33:20
  had
• 33:20
  played
• 33:21
  on
• 33:21
  both
• 33:21
  teams
• 33:21
  during
• 33:22
  the
• 33:22
  year
• 33:22
  and
• 33:22
  there's
• 33:22
  always
• 33:23
  an
• 33:23
  interview.
• 33:23
  Of,
• 33:24
  didn't
• 33:24
  that
• 33:24
  happen
• 33:25
  last
• 33:25
  year?
• 33:26
  It
• 33:26
  happens
• 33:26
  every
• 33:26
  year
• 33:27
  almost.
• 33:28
  It
• 33:28
  seems
• 33:28
  like
• 33:28
  it's
• 33:29
  almost
• 33:29
  every
• 33:29
  year
• 33:30
  because
• 33:30
  it's
• 33:30
  basically
• 33:31
  like,
• 33:31
  oh,
• 33:31
  you're
• 33:31
  going
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  get
• 33:31
  a
• 33:32
  ring.
• 33:32
  Which
• 33:32
  is
• 33:32
  wild
• 33:33
  to
• 33:33
  me
• 33:33
  that
• 33:33
  you
• 33:33
  can
• 33:33
  come
• 33:33
  up
• 33:34
  for
• 33:34
  like
• 33:35
  a
• 33:35
  weekend
• 33:36
  series
• 33:36
  in
• 33:36
  aaa,
• 33:37
  play,
• 33:38
  sit
• 33:38
  on
• 33:38
  the
• 33:38
  bench
• 33:38
  for
• 33:39
  three
• 33:39
  games,
• 33:39
  get
• 33:39
  sent
• 33:39
  back
• 33:40
  down,
• 33:40
  never
• 33:40
  see
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  bigs
• 33:41
  again.
• 33:41
  And
• 33:41
  they're
• 33:41
  like,
• 33:42
  here's
• 33:42
  the
• 33:42
  World
• 33:42
  Series
• 33:42
  ring.
• 33:43
  Thanks
• 33:43
  for
• 33:43
  contributing.
• 33:44
  Yeah.
• 33:45
  And
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  don't
• 33:45
  Know
• 33:45
  if
• 33:45
  this
• 33:45
  is
• 33:46
  accurate,
• 33:46
  but
• 33:46
  I
• 33:46
  feel
• 33:46
  like
• 33:47
  I
• 33:47
  have
• 33:47
  a
• 33:47
  memory
• 33:47
  of.
• 33:48
  In
• 33:48
  the
• 33:48
  NBA,
• 33:49
  like,
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  team
• 33:51
  voted.
• 33:52
  I
• 33:52
  mean,
• 33:52
  they.
• 33:52
  They.
• 33:53
  They
• 33:53
  vote
• 33:53
  on,
• 33:53
  like,
• 33:54
  playoff
• 33:54
  shares.
• 33:55
  They
• 33:55
  still
• 33:55
  do
• 33:55
  that
• 33:56
  in
• 33:56
  baseball?
• 33:56
  Yeah.
• 33:57
  Yeah.
• 33:57
  Okay.
• 33:58
  Maybe
• 33:58
  I'm.
• 33:58
  They
• 33:58
  have
• 33:58
  a
• 33:59
  pool.
• 33:59
  I
• 33:59
  just
• 33:59
  remember
• 34:00
  at
• 34:00
  one
• 34:00
  point,
• 34:01
  I
• 34:01
  feel
• 34:02
  like
• 34:02
  just
• 34:02
  paying
• 34:03
  attention.
• 34:03
  Maybe
• 34:03
  it
• 34:04
  was
• 34:04
  one
• 34:04
  of
• 34:04
  those
• 34:04
  Rocket
• 34:05
  teams
• 34:05
  in
• 34:05
  the
• 34:05
  mid-90s
• 34:06
  where
• 34:06
  it
• 34:06
  was
• 34:06
  just,
• 34:07
  like,
• 34:07
  you
• 34:08
  know,
• 34:09
  like
• 34:09
  someone
• 34:10
  that
• 34:10
  had
• 34:10
  popped
• 34:10
  up
• 34:11
  there,
• 34:11
  you
• 34:11
  know,
• 34:12
  and
• 34:12
  then
• 34:12
  they
• 34:12
  didn't
• 34:13
  get
• 34:13
  a
• 34:13
  ring.
• 34:13
  Right.
• 34:14
  You
• 34:14
  know,
• 34:14
  and
• 34:14
  I
• 34:14
  couldn't
• 34:15
  remember,
• 34:15
  I.
• 34:15
  Don't
• 34:15
  know,
• 34:15
  vote
• 34:16
  or
• 34:16
  what,
• 34:16
  you
• 34:17
  know?
• 34:17
  And,
• 34:17
  I
• 34:18
  mean,
• 34:18
  since
• 34:18
  we're
• 34:19
  in
• 34:19
  North
• 34:19
  Texas,
• 34:20
  the
• 34:20
  Texas
• 34:20
  Rangers,
• 34:21
  you
• 34:21
  know,
• 34:21
  won
• 34:21
  the
• 34:21
  series
• 34:22
  in
• 34:22
  23.
• 34:22
  And
• 34:23
  the
• 34:23
  story
• 34:23
  about
• 34:25
  who
• 34:25
  gets
• 34:25
  full
• 34:25
  shares
• 34:26
  and
• 34:26
  who
• 34:26
  gets
• 34:26
  partial
• 34:27
  shares
• 34:27
  and
• 34:27
  who
• 34:27
  gets
• 34:27
  quarter
• 34:28
  shares
• 34:28
  and
• 34:28
  who
• 34:29
  gets
• 34:29
  just
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  little.
• 34:30
  Like,
• 34:30
  that
• 34:30
  stuff
• 34:30
  is
• 34:31
  fascinating
• 34:31
  to
• 34:31
  me
• 34:31
  because
• 34:32
  you
• 34:32
  really
• 34:32
  can
• 34:32
  tell
• 34:32
  what
• 34:33
  room
• 34:33
  thought
• 34:33
  about
• 34:33
  somebody.
• 34:34
  Yes,
• 34:34
  well,
• 34:35
  and
• 34:35
  it
• 34:35
  kind
• 34:35
  of
• 34:35
  goes
• 34:36
  back
• 34:36
  to.
• 34:38
  For
• 34:38
  those
• 34:38
  listening,
• 34:39
  Derek
• 34:39
  came
• 34:39
  by
• 34:40
  last
• 34:40
  night
• 34:40
  to
• 34:40
  talk
• 34:40
  about
• 34:41
  this
• 34:41
  a
• 34:41
  little
• 34:41
  bit.
• 34:41
  It's
• 34:42
  very
• 34:42
  reminiscent
• 34:42
  of
• 34:42
  what
• 34:43
  y'
• 34:43
  all
• 34:43
  were
• 34:43
  talking
• 34:43
  about,
• 34:43
  how
• 34:44
  cheerleader
• 34:44
  tryouts
• 34:45
  were
• 34:45
  growing
• 34:45
  up
• 34:45
  in
• 34:46
  the
• 34:46
  80s
• 34:46
  and
• 34:46
  90s
• 34:47
  where
• 34:47
  they
• 34:47
  had
• 34:47
  to
• 34:48
  try
• 34:48
  out
• 34:48
  in
• 34:48
  front
• 34:48
  of
• 34:48
  the
• 34:49
  entire
• 34:49
  school,
• 34:50
  and
• 34:50
  then
• 34:50
  the
• 34:50
  school
• 34:51
  got
• 34:51
  to
• 34:51
  vote.
• 34:52
  I
• 34:52
  mean,
• 34:52
  golly,
• 34:53
  come
• 34:54
  on,
• 34:54
  this.
• 34:54
  It
• 34:54
  feels
• 34:55
  kind
• 34:55
  of
• 34:55
  similar,
• 34:55
  because
• 34:56
  it's
• 34:56
  like
• 34:57
  you
• 34:57
  all
• 34:57
  vote,
• 34:57
  and
• 34:58
  everyone's
• 34:58
  like,
• 34:58
  you
• 34:58
  know
• 34:58
  what?
• 34:59
  You
• 35:00
  know,
• 35:00
  Neely
• 35:00
  really
• 35:01
  didn't
• 35:01
  do
• 35:01
  much.
• 35:02
  Let's
• 35:02
  just.
• 35:04
  And
• 35:04
  then
• 35:04
  just
• 35:05
  no
• 35:05
  one.
• 35:05
  No
• 35:05
  one
• 35:06
  look
• 35:06
  at
• 35:06
  him,
• 35:06
  you
• 35:07
  know,
• 35:07
  when
• 35:07
  he
• 35:07
  comes
• 35:07
  into
• 35:08
  the
• 35:08
  locker
• 35:08
  room,
• 35:09
  and,
• 35:09
  you
• 35:09
  know,
• 35:09
  whatever,
• 35:10
  we'll
• 35:10
  just
• 35:10
  move.
• 35:10
  Well,
• 35:10
  the
• 35:11
  story.
• 35:11
  The
• 35:11
  story
• 35:11
  I
• 35:11
  was
• 35:12
  telling
• 35:12
  was
• 35:12
  basically
• 35:13
  that
• 35:13
  we
• 35:13
  had
• 35:14
  cheerleader
• 35:15
  tryouts
• 35:15
  one
• 35:15
  year,
• 35:15
  and
• 35:15
  for
• 35:16
  eight
• 35:16
  spots,
• 35:16
  there
• 35:17
  were
• 35:17
  nine
• 35:17
  girls,
• 35:18
  and
• 35:18
  they
• 35:18
  had
• 35:18
  to
• 35:18
  try
• 35:18
  out
• 35:19
  in
• 35:19
  front
• 35:19
  of
• 35:19
  the
• 35:19
  school,
• 35:20
  and
• 35:20
  one
• 35:20
  of
• 35:20
  them
• 35:20
  was
• 35:21
  getting
• 35:21
  cut.
• 35:21
  It
• 35:21
  was
• 35:21
  Hunger
• 35:22
  Games.
• 35:22
  That
• 35:23
  is
• 35:23
  Hunger
• 35:23
  Games.
• 35:23
  And
• 35:23
  I
• 35:24
  just
• 35:24
  remember,
• 35:24
  like,
• 35:25
  the
• 35:25
  one
• 35:25
  girl
• 35:25
  who
• 35:26
  didn't
• 35:26
  make
• 35:26
  it
• 35:27
  being
• 35:28
  not
• 35:28
  good.
• 35:29
  And
• 35:29
  we
• 35:29
  all
• 35:29
  knew
• 35:29
  that
• 35:30
  she
• 35:30
  was
• 35:30
  not
• 35:30
  good.
• 35:31
  And
• 35:31
  my
• 35:31
  thing
• 35:31
  in
• 35:31
  my
• 35:32
  head
• 35:32
  at
• 35:32
  the
• 35:32
  time
• 35:32
  was,
• 35:34
  we
• 35:34
  know
• 35:34
  this.
• 35:34
  This
• 35:35
  poor
• 35:35
  girl
• 35:35
  is
• 35:35
  not
• 35:35
  getting
• 35:36
  it.
• 35:36
  Why
• 35:36
  are
• 35:36
  we
• 35:37
  putting
• 35:37
  her
• 35:37
  through
• 35:37
  this?
• 35:38
  Yeah,
• 35:38
  she's
• 35:38
  the
• 35:39
  Edmond,
• 35:40
  unfortunately.
• 35:41
  But
• 35:42
  she.
• 35:42
  I
• 35:42
  don't
• 35:42
  know
• 35:43
  if
• 35:43
  she
• 35:43
  got
• 35:43
  a
• 35:44
  ring
• 35:44
  with
• 35:44
  Jordan
• 35:46
  the
• 35:46
  third
• 35:46
  year,
• 35:47
  and.
• 35:47
  I
• 35:47
  really
• 35:47
  don't
• 35:47
  either.
• 35:48
  I
• 35:48
  mean,
• 35:48
  look
• 35:49
  at.
• 35:49
  There's
• 35:49
  nothing
• 35:50
  on
• 35:50
  his
• 35:51
  basketball
• 35:51
  reference
• 35:52
  page.
• 35:52
  That
• 35:52
  says
• 35:54
  he
• 35:54
  100%
• 35:55
  sells
• 35:55
  insurance
• 35:56
  in
• 35:56
  Iowa.
• 35:57
  Yeah.
• 35:58
  You
• 35:58
  know,
• 35:58
  what
• 35:58
  is.
• 35:59
  You
• 35:59
  know,
• 35:59
  when
• 35:59
  he.
• 36:00
  When
• 36:00
  he
• 36:00
  was
• 36:00
  on
• 36:00
  that
• 36:01
  championship
• 36:01
  team
• 36:02
  with
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  Bulls,
• 36:02
  he
• 36:02
  wore
• 36:02
  number
• 36:03
  45.
• 36:04
  Do
• 36:04
  you
• 36:04
  think
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  was
• 36:04
  Jordan's
• 36:06
  you
• 36:06
  think
• 36:06
  Jordan
• 36:07
  was
• 36:07
  wanting
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  be
• 36:07
  more
• 36:08
  like
• 36:08
  Ed
• 36:08
  Neely
• 36:08
  when
• 36:09
  he
• 36:09
  came
• 36:09
  back?
• 36:10
  I'm
• 36:10
  surprised
• 36:10
  that
• 36:11
  they
• 36:11
  didn't
• 36:11
  tell
• 36:11
  him,
• 36:11
  hey,
• 36:12
  this
• 36:12
  is.
• 36:12
  This
• 36:13
  has
• 36:13
  been
• 36:13
  retired.
• 36:14
  You
• 36:14
  cannot
• 36:14
  wear
• 36:15
  45.
• 36:15
  It's
• 36:16
  pre
• 36:16
  retired.
• 36:16
  No,
• 36:17
  but
• 36:17
  this
• 36:17
  would
• 36:17
  have
• 36:17
  been
• 36:17
  before
• 36:18
  Jordan
• 36:18
  wore
• 36:18
  it.
• 36:19
  Oh,
• 36:19
  you
• 36:19
  mean
• 36:19
  they
• 36:19
  would
• 36:19
  have
• 36:20
  told
• 36:20
  Jordan
• 36:20
  they
• 36:20
  were
• 36:21
  retiring
• 36:21
  it?
• 36:21
  Yeah,
• 36:22
  they
• 36:22
  were
• 36:22
  like,
• 36:22
  hey,
• 36:22
  you
• 36:23
  can't.
• 36:23
  Sorry,
• 36:23
  MJ.
• 36:24
  Sorry,
• 36:24
  man.
• 36:25
  This
• 36:25
  guy
• 36:25
  had
• 36:25
  a
• 36:25
  10
• 36:25
  year
• 36:26
  run.
• 36:26
  Yeah.
• 36:27
  If
• 36:27
  you
• 36:27
  really
• 36:28
  want
• 36:28
  two
• 36:28
  of
• 36:28
  three
• 36:28
  in
• 36:29
  game
• 36:29
  seven.
• 36:29
  Yeah,
• 36:30
  we
• 36:30
  can.
• 36:30
  He
• 36:31
  shot
• 36:31
  67%
• 36:32
  would
• 36:32
  be
• 36:32
  the
• 36:32
  way
• 36:33
  to
• 36:33
  say
• 36:33
  it.
• 36:33
  Don't
• 36:34
  gonna
• 36:34
  say
• 36:34
  two
• 36:34
  for
• 36:35
  three.
• 36:36
  Just
• 36:36
  hey,
• 36:37
  it
• 36:37
  would
• 36:37
  be
• 36:37
  more
• 36:37
  like
• 36:37
  what?
• 36:38
  The
• 36:38
  way
• 36:38
  you
• 36:38
  would
• 36:38
  appease
• 36:39
  this
• 36:39
  to
• 36:39
  Jordan,
• 36:40
  especially
• 36:40
  after
• 36:40
  watching
• 36:41
  his,
• 36:43
  you
• 36:43
  know,
• 36:43
  his
• 36:44
  whatever.
• 36:44
  The
• 36:45
  way
• 36:45
  he
• 36:45
  was
• 36:45
  with
• 36:45
  Pippin,
• 36:46
  I
• 36:46
  guess.
• 36:46
  But
• 36:47
  you
• 36:47
  would
• 36:47
  say,
• 36:47
  hey,
• 36:48
  Mike,
• 36:48
  you
• 36:48
  remember
• 36:49
  that
• 36:49
  one
• 36:49
  time
• 36:50
  when
• 36:50
  Pippin
• 36:51
  got
• 36:51
  the.
• 36:51
  And
• 36:51
  you
• 36:51
  would
• 36:52
  air
• 36:52
  quote
• 36:52
  migraine
• 36:53
  and
• 36:54
  Ed
• 36:54
  Neely
• 36:55
  had
• 36:55
  to
• 36:56
  come
• 36:56
  to
• 36:56
  the
• 36:56
  rescue
• 36:57
  and
• 36:57
  shot
• 36:57
  67%.
• 36:59
  Well,
• 37:00
  guess
• 37:00
  what?
• 37:00
  You
• 37:01
  have
• 37:01
  45.
• 37:01
  Because
• 37:02
  we
• 37:02
  have
• 37:02
  that
• 37:02
  much
• 37:03
  respect
• 37:03
  for
• 37:03
  Ed
• 37:03
  Neely.
• 37:04
  I
• 37:04
  feel
• 37:05
  like
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  want
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  go
• 37:05
  back,
• 37:05
  watch
• 37:06
  the
• 37:06
  Last
• 37:06
  Dance
• 37:06
  and
• 37:07
  then
• 37:07
  just
• 37:07
  put
• 37:07
  my
• 37:07
  hands
• 37:08
  up
• 37:08
  at
• 37:08
  all
• 37:08
  times
• 37:08
  going,
• 37:08
  where's
• 37:09
  the
• 37:09
  Ed
• 37:09
  Neely
• 37:09
  chapter?
• 37:10
  Exactly.
• 37:11
  I
• 37:11
  did
• 37:12
  see
• 37:12
  recently
• 37:12
  on
• 37:13
  YouTube
• 37:13
  and
• 37:14
  we,
• 37:14
  you
• 37:14
  know,
• 37:15
  that
• 37:16
  someone
• 37:16
  created
• 37:17
  the
• 37:17
  11th
• 37:18
  episode.
• 37:19
  Did
• 37:19
  you
• 37:19
  see
• 37:19
  this?
• 37:20
  No.
• 37:21
  The
• 37:21
  Last
• 37:21
  Dance.
• 37:22
  And
• 37:22
  it's
• 37:23
  just
• 37:23
  like
• 37:23
  someone
• 37:23
  just
• 37:24
  did
• 37:24
  it.
• 37:24
  And
• 37:24
  I
• 37:24
  think
• 37:25
  they
• 37:25
  kind
• 37:25
  of
• 37:26
  did
• 37:26
  it
• 37:26
  in
• 37:27
  a
• 37:27
  similar
• 37:28
  style
• 37:28
  or
• 37:28
  tried
• 37:29
  to
• 37:29
  kind
• 37:29
  of
• 37:29
  mimic
• 37:29
  that
• 37:29
  style
• 37:30
  that
• 37:30
  the
• 37:30
  documentary
• 37:31
  was
• 37:31
  shot
• 37:31
  with,
• 37:32
  which
• 37:32
  was
• 37:32
  Basically
• 37:33
  just
• 37:33
  like
• 37:33
  30
• 37:33
  for
• 37:34
  30s,
• 37:34
  I
• 37:34
  guess
• 37:34
  you
• 37:34
  could
• 37:35
  say.
• 37:35
  But
• 37:36
  it's
• 37:36
  all
• 37:37
  about
• 37:37
  Luke
• 37:37
  Longley.
• 37:38
  And
• 37:38
  it's
• 37:39
  like,
• 37:39
  it's
• 37:39
  like
• 37:40
  the
• 37:40
  law.
• 37:40
  It
• 37:40
  says
• 37:41
  like
• 37:41
  the
• 37:41
  lost
• 37:42
  episode
• 37:43
  of
• 37:43
  the
• 37:43
  Last
• 37:44
  Dance.
• 37:45
  And
• 37:45
  it's
• 37:45
  the
• 37:45
  Luke.
• 37:46
  The
• 37:46
  Luke
• 37:46
  Longley
• 37:47
  story
• 37:47
  or
• 37:47
  whatever.
• 37:48
  Gosh,
• 37:49
  I
• 37:49
  love
• 37:49
  it.
• 37:50
  The
• 37:50
  Aussie.
• 37:51
  Yeah.
• 37:52
  Which
• 37:52
  I
• 37:52
  guess
• 37:53
  Luke
• 37:53
  just
• 37:54
  outpaced
• 37:54
  Ed
• 37:55
  Neely
• 37:55
  enough
• 37:55
  that
• 37:56
  he
• 37:56
  got
• 37:56
  that
• 37:56
  episode.
• 37:57
  Not
• 37:58
  to
• 37:58
  turn
• 37:58
  this
• 37:59
  to,
• 37:59
  I
• 38:00
  mean,
• 38:00
  to,
• 38:00
  to
• 38:00
  move
• 38:01
  away
• 38:01
  from
• 38:02
  Ed
• 38:02
  for
• 38:02
  a
• 38:02
  second.
• 38:02
  But
• 38:03
  yeah,
• 38:03
  what
• 38:04
  was
• 38:04
  really
• 38:04
  interesting
• 38:04
  to
• 38:05
  get
• 38:05
  back
• 38:05
  to
• 38:05
  Pippin
• 38:05
  for
• 38:06
  just
• 38:06
  a
• 38:06
  second,
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  wanted
• 38:06
  to
• 38:06
  talk
• 38:07
  about
• 38:07
  this
• 38:07
  one
• 38:07
  more
• 38:07
  thing
• 38:08
  was
• 38:08
  when
• 38:09
  the
• 38:09
  Last
• 38:09
  Dance
• 38:09
  came
• 38:10
  out,
• 38:10
  you
• 38:10
  can
• 38:11
  tell
• 38:11
  how
• 38:11
  Jordan
• 38:12
  feels
• 38:12
  about
• 38:12
  it,
• 38:12
  even
• 38:12
  though
• 38:13
  he's
• 38:13
  very
• 38:13
  flippant
• 38:14
  about
• 38:14
  what
• 38:14
  are
• 38:14
  you
• 38:14
  going
• 38:14
  to
• 38:14
  do?
• 38:15
  What
• 38:15
  are
• 38:15
  you
• 38:15
  going
• 38:15
  to
• 38:15
  do?
• 38:15
  Like
• 38:16
  you
• 38:16
  couldn't
• 38:16
  do
• 38:16
  anything.
• 38:16
  What
• 38:16
  are
• 38:17
  you
• 38:17
  going
• 38:17
  to
• 38:17
  do?
• 38:18
  But
• 38:18
  then
• 38:18
  like
• 38:18
  Falk,
• 38:19
  David
• 38:20
  Falk,
• 38:21
  Jordan's
• 38:22
  agent,
• 38:22
  basically
• 38:23
  around
• 38:23
  that
• 38:24
  time
• 38:24
  or
• 38:25
  soon
• 38:25
  after,
• 38:26
  kind
• 38:27
  of
• 38:27
  just
• 38:27
  sets
• 38:28
  Pippen
• 38:28
  on
• 38:28
  fire.
• 38:29
  And
• 38:29
  that's
• 38:30
  what
• 38:30
  kind
• 38:30
  of
• 38:30
  Made
• 38:30
  it
• 38:30
  catch
• 38:31
  steam
• 38:32
  again.
• 38:32
  It
• 38:32
  made
• 38:33
  no
• 38:33
  sense
• 38:34
  because
• 38:34
  of
• 38:34
  course
• 38:34
  they
• 38:35
  asked
• 38:35
  him,
• 38:35
  like,
• 38:35
  what
• 38:35
  do
• 38:35
  you,
• 38:36
  you
• 38:36
  know,
• 38:36
  what
• 38:36
  do
• 38:36
  you
• 38:36
  think
• 38:36
  about
• 38:36
  this
• 38:37
  or
• 38:37
  that?
• 38:37
  And
• 38:37
  he
• 38:37
  was
• 38:38
  basically
• 38:38
  like,
• 38:38
  you
• 38:38
  know,
• 38:38
  Jordan
• 38:39
  would
• 38:39
  never
• 38:39
  let
• 38:39
  this
• 38:40
  happen.
• 38:41
  Like,
• 38:41
  if
• 38:41
  Jordan
• 38:41
  had
• 38:41
  a
• 38:42
  migraine,
• 38:42
  they
• 38:43
  would
• 38:43
  have,
• 38:43
  you
• 38:43
  know,
• 38:45
  put
• 38:45
  a
• 38:45
  drill
• 38:45
  bit,
• 38:46
  you
• 38:46
  know,
• 38:46
  six
• 38:47
  inches
• 38:47
  deep
• 38:47
  in
• 38:47
  the
• 38:47
  front
• 38:47
  of
• 38:48
  his
• 38:48
  brain
• 38:48
  and
• 38:48
  he
• 38:48
  would
• 38:48
  have
• 38:49
  played.
• 38:49
  It's
• 38:49
  just
• 38:50
  so
• 38:50
  bizarre
• 38:51
  to
• 38:51
  me
• 38:52
  why
• 38:52
  they
• 38:53
  would
• 38:53
  torch
• 38:53
  him
• 38:54
  like
• 38:54
  that
• 38:55
  so
• 38:55
  long
• 38:55
  after
• 38:56
  the
• 38:56
  fact.
• 38:57
  That's
• 38:57
  the
• 38:57
  thing
• 38:57
  that
• 38:57
  never
• 38:57
  sat
• 38:58
  right
• 38:58
  to
• 38:58
  me.
• 38:59
  That's
• 38:59
  probably
• 39:00
  a
• 39:00
  bigger
• 39:00
  conversation
• 39:01
  just
• 39:01
  with
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  last
• 39:02
  dance
• 39:02
  itself,
• 39:03
  but
• 39:03
  like,
• 39:04
  for,
• 39:04
  you
• 39:05
  know,
• 39:05
  like,
• 39:05
  Pippin
• 39:06
  was
• 39:06
  a
• 39:06
  top
• 39:06
  50
• 39:07
  player
• 39:07
  all
• 39:08
  time,
• 39:08
  if
• 39:08
  not
• 39:09
  higher.
• 39:09
  Sure.
• 39:10
  It's
• 39:10
  like
• 39:10
  if
• 39:11
  the
• 39:11
  man
• 39:11
  says
• 39:11
  he's
• 39:11
  got
• 39:12
  a
• 39:12
  migraine,
• 39:12
  he's
• 39:12
  got
• 39:12
  a
• 39:12
  migraine,
• 39:13
  you
• 39:13
  know.
• 39:13
  And
• 39:13
  there
• 39:14
  were
• 39:14
  teammates
• 39:14
  that
• 39:14
  came
• 39:14
  to
• 39:14
  his
• 39:15
  defense.
• 39:15
  I
• 39:15
  think
• 39:15
  I
• 39:15
  read
• 39:15
  that
• 39:16
  like,
• 39:16
  Stacy
• 39:16
  King
• 39:17
  was
• 39:17
  basically
• 39:18
  like,
• 39:18
  that
• 39:18
  dude
• 39:18
  was
• 39:18
  crying
• 39:19
  on
• 39:19
  the
• 39:19
  bench
• 39:20
  and
• 39:20
  he
• 39:20
  was
• 39:20
  still
• 39:20
  out
• 39:20
  there
• 39:20
  for
• 39:21
  42
• 39:21
  minutes
• 39:21
  for
• 39:22
  us.
• 39:22
  Like,
• 39:22
  that
• 39:22
  dude's
• 39:22
  a
• 39:22
  warrior
• 39:23
  to
• 39:23
  me.
• 39:23
  Well,
• 39:23
  and
• 39:24
  that's
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  crazy
• 39:24
  thing
• 39:25
  again,
• 39:26
  like
• 39:26
  you,
• 39:26
  and
• 39:27
  you,
• 39:27
  you've
• 39:27
  mentioned
• 39:27
  that,
• 39:28
  but
• 39:28
  that
• 39:28
  was
• 39:28
  the
• 39:28
  thing
• 39:28
  that
• 39:28
  stuck
• 39:29
  out
• 39:29
  to
• 39:29
  me
• 39:29
  really
• 39:29
  big,
• 39:30
  too.
• 39:30
  Looking
• 39:30
  at
• 39:30
  the
• 39:31
  box
• 39:31
  score,
• 39:31
  this
• 39:31
  was
• 39:32
  like
• 39:32
  42
• 39:33
  minutes
• 39:34
  he
• 39:34
  played.
• 39:34
  I
• 39:35
  mean,
• 39:35
  this
• 39:35
  isn't
• 39:35
  like
• 39:36
  he
• 39:36
  was
• 39:36
  exiting
• 39:37
  a
• 39:37
  lot.
• 39:38
  And
• 39:38
  I
• 39:38
  think
• 39:39
  just
• 39:39
  looking
• 39:39
  at
• 39:39
  it,
• 39:41
  not
• 39:41
  to
• 39:41
  pick
• 39:41
  on,
• 39:42
  on,
• 39:43
  on
• 39:43
  Jordan
• 39:44
  or,
• 39:44
  or
• 39:44
  any
• 39:44
  of
• 39:44
  the
• 39:44
  other
• 39:44
  guy,
• 39:45
  but
• 39:45
  none
• 39:45
  of
• 39:45
  them
• 39:45
  had
• 39:46
  a
• 39:46
  good
• 39:46
  game.
• 39:46
  Jordan
• 39:47
  shot
• 39:47
  13
• 39:47
  for
• 39:48
  27
• 39:48
  from
• 39:49
  the
• 39:49
  floor.
• 39:49
  He
• 39:50
  missed
• 39:50
  both
• 39:50
  of
• 39:50
  his
• 39:50
  three
• 39:51
  point
• 39:51
  attempts.
• 39:52
  Craig
• 39:52
  Hodges
• 39:52
  shot
• 39:53
  12
• 39:53
  threes
• 39:54
  and
• 39:54
  only
• 39:54
  made
• 39:54
  two.
• 39:55
  And
• 39:55
  again,
• 39:59
  yeah,
• 40:00
  exactly
• 40:00
  there.
• 40:00
  Hodges
• 40:01
  is
• 40:01
  not
• 40:01
  playing.
• 40:01
  He's
• 40:02
  not
• 40:02
  going
• 40:02
  to
• 40:02
  for
• 40:02
  12.
• 40:03
  No,
• 40:04
  no,
• 40:04
  but
• 40:04
  nobody
• 40:05
  on
• 40:05
  the.
• 40:05
  I
• 40:05
  mean,
• 40:05
  the
• 40:06
  entire
• 40:06
  team
• 40:06
  only
• 40:07
  shot
• 40:07
  31%
• 40:08
  from
• 40:08
  the
• 40:08
  field.
• 40:09
  They
• 40:09
  shot
• 40:10
  10%,
• 40:10
  a
• 40:10
  little
• 40:11
  over
• 40:11
  10%
• 40:12
  from
• 40:12
  three.
• 40:12
  And
• 40:13
  again,
• 40:13
  I
• 40:13
  know
• 40:14
  that
• 40:14
  you
• 40:14
  replace,
• 40:15
  you
• 40:15
  get
• 40:16
  Pippen.
• 40:16
  A
• 40:16
  healthy
• 40:17
  Pippin,
• 40:17
  I
• 40:17
  should
• 40:18
  say,
• 40:18
  because
• 40:18
  Pippen
• 40:18
  was
• 40:18
  in
• 40:19
  there.
• 40:19
  But
• 40:19
  let's
• 40:19
  say
• 40:19
  you
• 40:19
  got
• 40:20
  Pippen
• 40:20
  on
• 40:20
  all
• 40:20
  cylinders.
• 40:21
  I
• 40:21
  do
• 40:22
  think
• 40:22
  it
• 40:22
  makes
• 40:22
  a
• 40:22
  difference
• 40:23
  because,
• 40:23
  you
• 40:24
  know,
• 40:25
  whatever,
• 40:25
  the
• 40:25
  rising
• 40:26
  tide
• 40:26
  lifts
• 40:26
  all
• 40:27
  boats
• 40:27
  or
• 40:27
  whatever,
• 40:27
  I'm
• 40:28
  sure
• 40:28
  they're
• 40:28
  all
• 40:28
  playing
• 40:28
  a
• 40:29
  little
• 40:29
  bit
• 40:29
  better
• 40:29
  because
• 40:30
  of
• 40:30
  that
• 40:30
  and
• 40:31
  they're
• 40:31
  not
• 40:31
  having
• 40:31
  to
• 40:31
  make
• 40:32
  up
• 40:32
  for
• 40:33
  that.
• 40:33
  But
• 40:33
  he
• 40:33
  still
• 40:34
  took,
• 40:34
  I
• 40:34
  mean,
• 40:34
  10
• 40:34
  shots,
• 40:35
  only
• 40:35
  made
• 40:36
  one,
• 40:36
  missed
• 40:36
  both
• 40:37
  of
• 40:37
  his
• 40:37
  threes.
• 40:38
  And
• 40:38
  you're
• 40:39
  right,
• 40:39
  it's
• 40:39
  an
• 40:39
  unfair
• 40:40
  rap
• 40:40
  that
• 40:40
  he
• 40:40
  gets.
• 40:41
  And
• 40:41
  again,
• 40:42
  I
• 40:42
  think
• 40:43
  similar
• 40:43
  to
• 40:43
  my
• 40:44
  argument
• 40:44
  with
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  Pistons
• 40:46
  as
• 40:47
  what
• 40:47
  we
• 40:47
  look
• 40:47
  back
• 40:48
  on,
• 40:48
  and
• 40:48
  I
• 40:48
  know
• 40:48
  you
• 40:49
  and
• 40:49
  I
• 40:49
  may
• 40:49
  not
• 40:49
  look
• 40:49
  back
• 40:50
  on
• 40:50
  and
• 40:50
  Me
• 40:50
  and
• 40:50
  you
• 40:51
  may
• 40:51
  have
• 40:51
  fought
• 40:51
  our
• 40:51
  way
• 40:51
  and
• 40:52
  we
• 40:52
  see
• 40:52
  through
• 40:53
  all
• 40:53
  the
• 40:53
  garbage
• 40:53
  here
• 40:53
  that
• 40:54
  Pippen
• 40:54
  is,
• 40:54
  is
• 40:55
  getting
• 40:55
  screwed
• 40:56
  from
• 40:56
  a
• 40:56
  legacy
• 40:56
  standpoint.
• 40:57
  And
• 40:58
  you
• 40:58
  know,
• 40:58
  on
• 40:59
  this
• 40:59
  front,
• 40:59
  at
• 40:59
  least
• 41:00
  with
• 41:00
  the
• 41:00
  migraine
• 41:00
  game
• 41:02
  is,
• 41:02
  you
• 41:03
  know,
• 41:03
  Jordan
• 41:04
  has.
• 41:04
  It's
• 41:05
  just
• 41:05
  like
• 41:05
  the
• 41:05
  tentacles
• 41:06
  of
• 41:06
  Jordan
• 41:06
  here.
• 41:07
  The
• 41:07
  impact
• 41:08
  that
• 41:08
  he
• 41:08
  has
• 41:08
  on
• 41:09
  everyone.
• 41:09
  The
• 41:09
  impact
• 41:10
  he
• 41:10
  has
• 41:10
  on
• 41:11
  what
• 41:11
  I
• 41:11
  think
• 41:11
  the
• 41:11
  overall
• 41:13
  memory
• 41:13
  and
• 41:13
  legacy
• 41:14
  of
• 41:14
  the
• 41:14
  Pistons
• 41:14
  are
• 41:15
  the
• 41:15
  impact
• 41:15
  that
• 41:15
  he
• 41:15
  has
• 41:16
  on
• 41:16
  his
• 41:16
  own
• 41:16
  teammate,
• 41:17
  the
• 41:17
  Robin
• 41:18
  to
• 41:18
  his
• 41:18
  Batman.
• 41:18
  You
• 41:19
  could
• 41:19
  say
• 41:20
  he
• 41:20
  had
• 41:20
  a
• 41:20
  negative
• 41:20
  impact.
• 41:21
  Obviously
• 41:22
  with
• 41:22
  Isaiah
• 41:22
  he
• 41:23
  had
• 41:23
  a
• 41:23
  giant
• 41:23
  impact.
• 41:24
  I
• 41:24
  think
• 41:24
  our
• 41:25
  memory
• 41:25
  of
• 41:25
  Isaiah
• 41:26
  is
• 41:26
  so
• 41:26
  different
• 41:26
  if
• 41:27
  he's
• 41:27
  on
• 41:27
  that
• 41:27
  92
• 41:28
  dream
• 41:28
  team.
• 41:30
  And
• 41:30
  I,
• 41:30
  I
• 41:30
  just,
• 41:31
  I
• 41:31
  just.
• 41:31
  And
• 41:32
  you
• 41:32
  know,
• 41:33
  I
• 41:34
  think
• 41:34
  that
• 41:34
  trying
• 41:34
  to
• 41:34
  make
• 41:34
  Mike
• 41:35
  out
• 41:35
  to
• 41:35
  be
• 41:35
  the
• 41:35
  bad
• 41:36
  guy,
• 41:36
  but
• 41:37
  at
• 41:37
  the
• 41:37
  same
• 41:37
  time
• 41:38
  it
• 41:38
  does.
• 41:38
  I
• 41:38
  think
• 41:39
  he's
• 41:39
  such
• 41:39
  the
• 41:39
  good
• 41:40
  guy
• 41:40
  and
• 41:40
  such
• 41:40
  the
• 41:40
  goat
• 41:41
  and
• 41:41
  such
• 41:41
  the
• 41:42
  love
• 41:42
  of
• 41:42
  anyone
• 41:43
  that
• 41:43
  liked
• 41:44
  basketball
• 41:44
  at
• 41:44
  that
• 41:44
  time
• 41:45
  that
• 41:45
  whatever
• 41:46
  he
• 41:46
  says
• 41:46
  is
• 41:47
  scripture
• 41:47
  and
• 41:47
  whatever,
• 41:48
  you
• 41:48
  know
• 41:48
  what
• 41:48
  I
• 41:49
  mean?
• 41:49
  And,
• 41:49
  and
• 41:50
  if
• 41:50
  he
• 41:50
  doesn't
• 41:50
  like
• 41:50
  someone,
• 41:51
  well,
• 41:51
  damn,
• 41:51
  we're
• 41:52
  not
• 41:52
  going
• 41:52
  to
• 41:52
  like
• 41:52
  them
• 41:52
  either.
• 41:53
  You
• 41:53
  know,
• 41:54
  I
• 41:54
  just,
• 41:55
  that's
• 41:55
  the
• 41:55
  reason
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  brought
• 41:56
  up
• 41:56
  is
• 41:56
  just
• 41:56
  to
• 41:57
  me
• 41:57
  it's
• 41:57
  just
• 41:57
  incredibly
• 41:58
  strange.
• 41:58
  Now
• 41:59
  granted,
• 41:59
  it
• 41:59
  may
• 41:59
  be
• 42:00
  it's
• 42:00
  on
• 42:00
  Brand.
• 42:02
  You
• 42:02
  don't
• 42:02
  have
• 42:02
  a
• 42:02
  10
• 42:03
  part
• 42:04
  author.
• 42:04
  You
• 42:05
  know,
• 42:05
  you
• 42:05
  don't
• 42:05
  sign
• 42:05
  off
• 42:05
  on
• 42:05
  a
• 42:06
  10
• 42:06
  part
• 42:06
  series
• 42:06
  where
• 42:07
  you're
• 42:07
  the
• 42:07
  main,
• 42:07
  you
• 42:08
  know,
• 42:08
  unless
• 42:09
  basically
• 42:10
  you
• 42:10
  just
• 42:10
  want
• 42:10
  to
• 42:10
  write
• 42:11
  the
• 42:11
  story
• 42:11
  how
• 42:11
  you
• 42:11
  want
• 42:11
  to
• 42:12
  write
• 42:12
  the
• 42:12
  story
• 42:12
  and
• 42:13
  you
• 42:13
  know,
• 42:13
  it's
• 42:14
  in
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  Jordan
• 42:14
  rules
• 42:15
  the
• 42:15
  following
• 42:15
  year,
• 42:16
  you
• 42:16
  know,
• 42:17
  they,
• 42:17
  they
• 42:18
  come
• 42:18
  back
• 42:18
  stronger
• 42:19
  than
• 42:19
  ever.
• 42:19
  The
• 42:19
  Bulls
• 42:19
  do.
• 42:20
  They
• 42:20
  go
• 42:20
  to
• 42:21
  the
• 42:21
  palace
• 42:22
  to
• 42:22
  play
• 42:22
  the
• 42:22
  first
• 42:22
  game
• 42:23
  since
• 42:23
  that
• 42:23
  loss.
• 42:24
  They
• 42:24
  have
• 42:25
  a
• 42:25
  lot
• 42:26
  of
• 42:26
  demons
• 42:27
  that
• 42:27
  they
• 42:28
  want
• 42:28
  to,
• 42:28
  you
• 42:29
  know,
• 42:29
  destroy
• 42:30
  with
• 42:30
  this
• 42:30
  game.
• 42:31
  And
• 42:31
  they
• 42:31
  get
• 42:32
  beat
• 42:32
  again.
• 42:33
  They
• 42:33
  get
• 42:33
  beat
• 42:34
  pretty
• 42:34
  badly.
• 42:35
  And
• 42:35
  they're
• 42:35
  all
• 42:35
  loading
• 42:36
  onto
• 42:36
  the
• 42:36
  bus
• 42:37
  and
• 42:38
  Pippen's
• 42:38
  in
• 42:38
  the
• 42:38
  back.
• 42:39
  And
• 42:39
  the
• 42:39
  first
• 42:39
  thing
• 42:39
  out
• 42:40
  of
• 42:40
  Jordan's
• 42:40
  mouth
• 42:40
  was
• 42:42
  and
• 42:42
  because
• 42:42
  Pippin,
• 42:42
  Evan,
• 42:43
  you
• 42:43
  know,
• 42:43
  didn't
• 42:43
  play
• 42:43
  as
• 42:43
  well.
• 42:44
  And
• 42:45
  the
• 42:45
  first
• 42:45
  thing
• 42:45
  I.
• 42:45
  Jordan's
• 42:45
  mouth
• 42:46
  was
• 42:46
  another
• 42:46
  migraine.
• 42:47
  Scotty.
• 42:48
  Yeah,
• 42:48
  yeah,
• 42:49
  like,
• 42:49
  I
• 42:49
  mean,
• 42:49
  like
• 42:50
  just,
• 42:50
  you
• 42:51
  know,
• 42:51
  just
• 42:51
  crap
• 42:52
  like
• 42:52
  that.
• 42:52
  The
• 42:52
  dude
• 42:53
  was
• 42:53
  just
• 42:53
  constantly.
• 42:55
  And
• 42:55
  I
• 42:55
  know
• 42:55
  that
• 42:56
  he
• 42:56
  thought
• 42:56
  that
• 42:56
  there
• 42:56
  was
• 42:56
  something,
• 42:58
  I
• 42:58
  don't
• 42:58
  know,
• 43:00
  valid
• 43:00
  about
• 43:01
  having
• 43:01
  this,
• 43:01
  you
• 43:02
  know,
• 43:02
  and
• 43:02
  he
• 43:02
  talks
• 43:02
  about
• 43:02
  it
• 43:03
  in
• 43:03
  the
• 43:03
  last
• 43:03
  dance
• 43:03
  about
• 43:03
  being
• 43:04
  hard
• 43:04
  on
• 43:04
  his
• 43:04
  teammates
• 43:04
  and
• 43:05
  wanting
• 43:05
  them
• 43:05
  fire
• 43:06
  test
• 43:06
  and
• 43:06
  all
• 43:06
  that
• 43:06
  stuff.
• 43:07
  But
• 43:07
  you
• 43:08
  know,
• 43:08
  like
• 43:09
  I,
• 43:11
  I
• 43:11
  think
• 43:11
  there's
• 43:12
  a
• 43:12
  way
• 43:12
  to
• 43:12
  do
• 43:12
  both.
• 43:13
  You
• 43:13
  know,
• 43:14
  maybe
• 43:14
  there's
• 43:14
  not.
• 43:14
  You
• 43:15
  know,
• 43:15
  I'm
• 43:15
  not
• 43:15
  a
• 43:16
  professional
• 43:16
  athlete
• 43:17
  that
• 43:17
  won
• 43:17
  Six
• 43:17
  championships
• 43:18
  and
• 43:18
  knows
• 43:18
  what
• 43:19
  it
• 43:19
  takes
• 43:19
  to
• 43:19
  get
• 43:19
  there.
• 43:19
  But,
• 43:20
  yeah,
• 43:20
  you
• 43:21
  know,
• 43:21
  well,
• 43:21
  and
• 43:21
  that
• 43:21
  is,
• 43:21
  you
• 43:22
  know,
• 43:22
  part
• 43:22
  of
• 43:22
  it.
• 43:23
  I
• 43:23
  think
• 43:23
  that's
• 43:23
  the
• 43:23
  thing
• 43:24
  I
• 43:24
  take
• 43:24
  away
• 43:24
  from
• 43:24
  the
• 43:25
  last
• 43:25
  dance
• 43:26
  is
• 43:27
  to
• 43:27
  be
• 43:27
  that
• 43:28
  dominant.
• 43:29
  You
• 43:29
  really.
• 43:30
  And
• 43:31
  again,
• 43:31
  I
• 43:31
  don't
• 43:31
  know
• 43:32
  that
• 43:32
  you
• 43:32
  have
• 43:32
  to
• 43:32
  be
• 43:34
  that
• 43:34
  way
• 43:34
  necessarily,
• 43:36
  but
• 43:36
  there's
• 43:36
  no
• 43:37
  room
• 43:37
  for,
• 43:39
  you
• 43:40
  know,
• 43:40
  letting
• 43:41
  things
• 43:41
  go
• 43:41
  or
• 43:41
  slide
• 43:42
  and,
• 43:43
  you
• 43:43
  know,
• 43:43
  if
• 43:43
  it's
• 43:44
  not
• 43:44
  the
• 43:44
  coach,
• 43:45
  and
• 43:45
  I
• 43:45
  don't
• 43:46
  even
• 43:46
  think
• 43:46
  Jordan
• 43:47
  would
• 43:47
  have
• 43:47
  wanted
• 43:47
  someone
• 43:48
  else
• 43:48
  to
• 43:48
  try
• 43:48
  and
• 43:48
  be
• 43:49
  the,
• 43:49
  you
• 43:49
  know,
• 43:50
  bully
• 43:50
  or
• 43:51
  whatever
• 43:51
  you
• 43:51
  want
• 43:51
  to
• 43:51
  call
• 43:51
  it
• 43:52
  on
• 43:52
  those
• 43:52
  teams,
• 43:52
  I
• 43:52
  think
• 43:53
  he
• 43:53
  embraced
• 43:53
  that
• 43:53
  role.
• 43:54
  But,
• 43:54
  you
• 43:55
  know,
• 43:55
  going
• 43:55
  back
• 43:55
  to
• 43:55
  the
• 43:55
  last
• 43:56
  dance
• 43:56
  and
• 43:57
  the
• 43:57
  impact
• 43:57
  that
• 43:57
  this
• 43:58
  has
• 43:58
  on
• 43:58
  Scotty
• 43:58
  and
• 43:59
  how
• 43:59
  Michael
• 43:59
  had
• 43:59
  complete
• 44:00
  control
• 44:00
  over
• 44:00
  the
• 44:01
  whole
• 44:01
  thing.
• 44:02
  I
• 44:02
  mean,
• 44:02
  that's.
• 44:03
  Again,
• 44:03
  though,
• 44:04
  we're
• 44:04
  now.
• 44:07
  Help
• 44:07
  me
• 44:07
  with
• 44:08
  math
• 44:08
  real
• 44:08
  quick.
• 44:09
  20
• 44:09
  some
• 44:10
  odd
• 44:10
  years,
• 44:10
  27
• 44:11
  years
• 44:11
  later.
• 44:12
  Right?
• 44:12
  26
• 44:13
  years
• 44:13
  later.
• 44:13
  30.
• 44:15
  36
• 44:16
  years
• 44:16
  later.
• 44:16
  36
• 44:17
  years
• 44:17
  later.
• 44:18
  Yeah.
• 44:19
  Sorry.
• 44:19
  You
• 44:19
  just
• 44:20
  need
• 44:20
  to
• 44:20
  carry
• 44:20
  the
• 44:20
  one.
• 44:21
  You
• 44:21
  just
• 44:21
  need
• 44:21
  to
• 44:21
  carry
• 44:21
  the
• 44:21
  one.
• 44:22
  Yeah.
• 44:23
  So
• 44:24
  30
• 44:24
  something
• 44:24
  years
• 44:25
  later.
• 44:26
  And
• 44:26
  Jordan
• 44:27
  didn't
• 44:27
  have
• 44:27
  to
• 44:28
  do
• 44:28
  that
• 44:28
  with
• 44:28
  the
• 44:28
  last
• 44:29
  dance,
• 44:29
  though.
• 44:30
  He
• 44:30
  didn't
• 44:30
  have
• 44:30
  to
• 44:30
  re.
• 44:31
  Drag
• 44:31
  Scotty
• 44:32
  through
• 44:32
  the
• 44:32
  mud.
• 44:32
  You
• 44:33
  know,
• 44:33
  that's
• 44:33
  what
• 44:33
  I'm
• 44:34
  saying.
• 44:34
  It
• 44:34
  makes
• 44:34
  no
• 44:35
  sense.
• 44:35
  What,
• 44:36
  you
• 44:36
  don't
• 44:36
  win
• 44:36
  six
• 44:36
  championships
• 44:37
  without
• 44:37
  Scottie
• 44:38
  Pippen.
• 44:38
  No.
• 44:38
  And
• 44:39
  no
• 44:39
  one
• 44:39
  thinks
• 44:40
  any
• 44:40
  less
• 44:40
  of
• 44:41
  that
• 44:41
  documentary
• 44:43
  if
• 44:43
  it's.
• 44:44
  If
• 44:44
  there's
• 44:44
  not
• 44:44
  a
• 44:45
  big
• 44:45
  migraine
• 44:45
  focus,
• 44:46
  you
• 44:46
  know,
• 44:46
  a
• 44:47
  migraine
• 44:47
  game
• 44:47
  focus
• 44:48
  against
• 44:48
  Scotty
• 44:49
  on.
• 44:49
  I
• 44:49
  think.
• 44:50
  And
• 44:50
  that's
• 44:51
  the
• 44:51
  thing,
• 44:51
  too.
• 44:51
  Scotty's
• 44:52
  episode.
• 44:52
  From
• 44:53
  my
• 44:53
  memory,
• 44:53
  I
• 44:53
  didn't
• 44:53
  watch
• 44:53
  the
• 44:54
  whole
• 44:54
  thing
• 44:54
  again,
• 44:54
  but
• 44:54
  I've
• 44:55
  watched
• 44:55
  that
• 44:55
  a
• 44:55
  few
• 44:56
  times
• 44:56
  all
• 44:56
  the
• 44:56
  way
• 44:56
  through
• 44:57
  is,
• 44:58
  man,
• 44:58
  you
• 44:58
  really
• 44:58
  have
• 44:59
  a
• 44:59
  ton
• 44:59
  of
• 44:59
  empathy
• 45:00
  for
• 45:00
  him
• 45:00
  because
• 45:01
  he
• 45:01
  did
• 45:01
  have
• 45:02
  tough
• 45:02
  circumstances
• 45:03
  coming
• 45:03
  up.
• 45:04
  He
• 45:04
  kind
• 45:04
  of
• 45:05
  was
• 45:05
  a
• 45:07
  late
• 45:07
  bloomer
• 45:09
  out
• 45:09
  of
• 45:09
  nowhere
• 45:10
  kind
• 45:10
  of
• 45:10
  college
• 45:10
  to
• 45:11
  pro,
• 45:11
  you
• 45:11
  know,
• 45:12
  I
• 45:12
  mean,
• 45:12
  I
• 45:12
  know
• 45:12
  he
• 45:12
  wasn't
• 45:13
  like
• 45:13
  he
• 45:13
  was
• 45:13
  undrafted
• 45:14
  or
• 45:14
  something,
• 45:14
  but
• 45:14
  nonetheless,
• 45:15
  you
• 45:16
  know,
• 45:16
  I
• 45:16
  think,
• 45:16
  you
• 45:17
  know,
• 45:17
  Rodman
• 45:17
  kind
• 45:18
  of
• 45:18
  has
• 45:18
  that
• 45:18
  similar
• 45:18
  thing
• 45:19
  too,
• 45:19
  I
• 45:19
  feel
• 45:19
  like.
• 45:19
  But
• 45:20
  Pippen
• 45:21
  has
• 45:21
  this
• 45:21
  really
• 45:22
  great
• 45:22
  story,
• 45:23
  and
• 45:23
  he
• 45:24
  seems
• 45:24
  like
• 45:24
  a
• 45:24
  really
• 45:25
  great
• 45:25
  guy.
• 45:27
  And
• 45:27
  yet
• 45:27
  in
• 45:28
  that
• 45:28
  documentary,
• 45:29
  I
• 45:30
  feel
• 45:30
  like
• 45:30
  a
• 45:30
  lot's
• 45:30
  made
• 45:31
  out
• 45:31
  of
• 45:31
  the
• 45:31
  migraine
• 45:31
  game
• 45:32
  and
• 45:32
  a
• 45:32
  ton
• 45:32
  is
• 45:33
  made
• 45:33
  out
• 45:33
  of
• 45:34
  Scotty
• 45:35
  making
• 45:35
  the
• 45:35
  horrible
• 45:36
  financial
• 45:37
  decision
• 45:37
  of
• 45:37
  signing
• 45:38
  that
• 45:38
  really
• 45:38
  long
• 45:38
  contract
• 45:39
  early.
• 45:40
  And
• 45:40
  I'm
• 45:40
  just
• 45:40
  like,
• 45:41
  okay,
• 45:41
  Jordan,
• 45:41
  you
• 45:41
  had
• 45:42
  control
• 45:42
  over
• 45:42
  this.
• 45:43
  Why
• 45:43
  did
• 45:43
  we
• 45:43
  do
• 45:43
  this
• 45:44
  again?
• 45:44
  You
• 45:44
  know,
• 45:44
  why.
• 45:45
  Why
• 45:45
  are
• 45:46
  we
• 45:46
  dragging
• 45:46
  him
• 45:46
  through
• 45:47
  the
• 45:47
  mud?
• 45:47
  And
• 45:47
  to
• 45:48
  me,
• 45:48
  I
• 45:48
  just
• 45:48
  think
• 45:48
  it's
• 45:49
  like
• 45:50
  the
• 45:50
  ultimate
• 45:51
  ego
• 45:51
  move.
• 45:51
  It's
• 45:52
  the
• 45:52
  ultimate.
• 45:53
  I
• 45:53
  am
• 45:53
  the
• 45:53
  king
• 45:54
  and
• 45:54
  I
• 45:55
  will
• 45:55
  allow
• 45:55
  these
• 45:56
  things
• 45:56
  that
• 45:56
  lift
• 45:57
  him
• 45:57
  up.
• 45:57
  But
• 45:57
  at
• 45:58
  the
• 45:58
  same
• 45:58
  time,
• 45:58
  I
• 45:58
  got
• 45:58
  to
• 45:59
  make
• 45:59
  sure
• 45:59
  we
• 45:59
  remember
• 45:59
  when
• 46:00
  he
• 46:00
  let
• 46:00
  me
• 46:00
  down,
• 46:01
  you
• 46:01
  know,
• 46:02
  he
• 46:02
  let
• 46:02
  me
• 46:02
  down
• 46:03
  right
• 46:03
  here.
• 46:03
  Yeah.
• 46:03
  And
• 46:04
  that's.
• 46:04
  You
• 46:04
  can.
• 46:04
  I
• 46:04
  mean,
• 46:05
  he
• 46:05
  doesn't
• 46:05
  say
• 46:05
  that
• 46:06
  in
• 46:06
  the,
• 46:06
  in
• 46:06
  the
• 46:06
  doc,
• 46:06
  but
• 46:07
  you
• 46:07
  can
• 46:07
  tell
• 46:07
  with
• 46:07
  his
• 46:07
  body
• 46:08
  language.
• 46:08
  He's
• 46:08
  just
• 46:08
  like,
• 46:09
  you
• 46:09
  know,
• 46:09
  what
• 46:09
  can
• 46:09
  you
• 46:09
  do?
• 46:10
  What
• 46:10
  can
• 46:10
  you
• 46:10
  do?
• 46:11
  I
• 46:11
  mean,
• 46:11
  the
• 46:11
  whites
• 46:12
  of
• 46:12
  his
• 46:12
  eyes
• 46:12
  practically
• 46:13
  turn
• 46:13
  yellow
• 46:13
  when
• 46:13
  he's
• 46:14
  talking
• 46:14
  about
• 46:14
  Scottie
• 46:15
  Pippen.
• 46:15
  I'm
• 46:15
  gonna
• 46:16
  lay
• 46:16
  out
• 46:16
  on
• 46:16
  that
• 46:16
  one.
• 46:17
  I
• 46:17
  don't
• 46:17
  know.
• 46:18
  I.
• 46:18
  I
• 46:18
  do.
• 46:18
  Maybe
• 46:18
  they're
• 46:19
  like
• 46:19
  that.
• 46:20
  Five
• 46:20
  cigars
• 46:21
  a
• 46:21
  day
• 46:21
  might
• 46:21
  do
• 46:22
  that
• 46:22
  to
• 46:22
  you.
• 46:22
  Exactly.
• 46:23
  I'm
• 46:23
  not
• 46:23
  gonna
• 46:24
  test
• 46:24
  it,
• 46:24
  but
• 46:25
  I
• 46:25
  don't
• 46:25
  know.
• 46:25
  And
• 46:26
  again,
• 46:26
  I
• 46:26
  don't
• 46:26
  want
• 46:26
  to
• 46:26
  pick
• 46:26
  on
• 46:27
  Jordan.
• 46:27
  I
• 46:27
  love
• 46:27
  Jordan.
• 46:28
  But
• 46:28
  it
• 46:28
  is,
• 46:29
  you
• 46:30
  know,
• 46:30
  it's
• 46:30
  unfortunate
• 46:30
  for
• 46:31
  Scotty.
• 46:31
  I
• 46:31
  feel
• 46:31
  like
• 46:32
  for
• 46:32
  sure.
• 46:32
  Scott,
• 46:33
  when
• 46:34
  you,
• 46:34
  if
• 46:35
  you
• 46:35
  do
• 46:35
  smoke
• 46:36
  five
• 46:36
  cigars
• 46:36
  a
• 46:36
  day,
• 46:37
  do
• 46:37
  you
• 46:38
  know
• 46:38
  what'll
• 46:39
  help
• 46:40
  make
• 46:40
  you
• 46:40
  smell
• 46:40
  better?
• 46:41
  I
• 46:41
  do
• 46:42
  know.
• 46:42
  And
• 46:43
  honestly,
• 46:44
  tell
• 46:44
  me
• 46:44
  it
• 46:45
  may
• 46:45
  have
• 46:45
  helped.
• 46:46
  It
• 46:46
  may
• 46:46
  have
• 46:46
  helped
• 46:47
  Scotty
• 46:47
  that
• 46:47
  day
• 46:47
  too.
• 46:48
  I
• 46:48
  don't
• 46:48
  know.
• 46:48
  Probably
• 46:49
  not.
• 46:49
  But
• 46:50
  it
• 46:50
  was
• 46:50
  post
• 46:51
  game
• 46:51
  shower.
• 46:52
  Yeah,
• 46:52
  it
• 46:52
  is.
• 46:53
  And
• 46:53
  so
• 46:54
  it's
• 46:54
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• 46:54
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• 46:54
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• 46:55
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• 46:55
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• 46:55
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• 46:59
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• 48:01
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• 48:01
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• 48:01
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• 48:01
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• 48:02
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• 48:03
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• 48:03
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  Yeah,
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• 48:04
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• 48:04
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• 48:05
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• 48:05
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• 48:05
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• 48:05
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• 48:06
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• 48:06
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• 48:06
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• 48:06
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• 48:07
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• 48:07
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• 48:08
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• 48:08
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• 48:08
  many
• 48:08
  times
• 48:09
  when
• 48:09
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• 48:09
  trying
• 48:09
  to
• 48:09
  Wing
• 48:10
  that.
• 48:10
  And
• 48:10
  then
• 48:11
  I'll
• 48:11
  lift
• 48:11
  up
• 48:11
  my
• 48:11
  head
• 48:12
  and
• 48:12
  look
• 48:12
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• 48:12
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• 48:13
  wife
• 48:13
  Amy
• 48:13
  and
• 48:14
  say,
• 48:14
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• 48:14
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• 48:14
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• 48:14
  get
• 48:14
  it?
• 48:15
  And
• 48:15
  she
• 48:15
  said
• 48:16
  there's
• 48:16
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• 48:16
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• 48:16
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• 48:17
  inch
• 48:17
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• 48:18
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• 48:18
  the
• 48:18
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• 48:18
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• 48:19
  and
• 48:19
  the
• 48:19
  right
• 48:19
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• 48:19
  or
• 48:20
  whatever.
• 48:20
  Yeah.
• 48:21
  But
• 48:21
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• 48:22
  lot
• 48:22
  of
• 48:22
  times
• 48:22
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• 48:23
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• 48:23
  good
• 48:23
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• 48:24
  cream
• 48:24
  or
• 48:24
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• 48:24
  soap,
• 48:25
  you're
• 48:25
  just
• 48:25
  sitting
• 48:25
  there
• 48:25
  gnawing
• 48:26
  at
• 48:26
  it
• 48:26
  with,
• 48:26
  you
• 48:26
  know.
• 48:27
  Oh
• 48:27
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• 48:27
  For
• 48:27
  freezer
• 48:27
  or
• 48:28
  whatever.
• 48:28
  So
• 48:28
  for
• 48:28
  sure.
• 48:29
  No,
• 48:29
  no,
• 48:29
  I
• 48:29
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• 48:30
  to,
• 48:30
  try
• 48:30
  to
• 48:30
  keep
• 48:31
  that
• 48:31
  clean.
• 48:31
  And
• 48:31
  Sterling
• 48:32
  Soap
• 48:32
  is
• 48:33
  a
• 48:33
  great
• 48:34
  place.
• 48:34
  Yeah.
• 48:36
  If
• 48:36
  you,
• 48:36
  if
• 48:36
  you
• 48:37
  shave
• 48:37
  regularly,
• 48:38
  they
• 48:38
  have
• 48:38
  all
• 48:39
  kinds
• 48:39
  of.
• 48:40
  I
• 48:40
  love,
• 48:41
  love
• 48:42
  the
• 48:43
  shave.
• 48:43
  I'll
• 48:43
  watch
• 48:43
  it
• 48:44
  on,
• 48:44
  I'll
• 48:44
  watch
• 48:44
  people
• 48:44
  get
• 48:45
  shaved
• 48:45
  on
• 48:45
  YouTube.
• 48:45
  Scott
• 48:46
  faces,
• 48:47
  beards.
• 48:47
  And
• 48:48
  you
• 48:48
  know
• 48:48
  what
• 48:48
  I
• 48:48
  love
• 48:48
  about
• 48:49
  gifts
• 48:49
  like
• 48:49
  this
• 48:50
  and
• 48:50
  why
• 48:50
  this
• 48:50
  is
• 48:50
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• 48:51
  a
• 48:51
  good
• 48:51
  gift
• 48:51
  in
• 48:52
  my
• 48:52
  mind
• 48:52
  is
• 48:53
  that
• 48:53
  it's
• 48:53
  stuff
• 48:53
  people
• 48:54
  use.
• 48:55
  Right.
• 48:55
  Like,
• 48:56
  I
• 48:56
  feel
• 48:56
  like
• 48:56
  a
• 48:56
  lot
• 48:57
  of
• 48:57
  times
• 48:57
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• 48:58
  you
• 48:58
  know,
• 48:58
  I'll
• 48:58
  get
• 48:59
  my
• 48:59
  dad
• 48:59
  something.
• 49:00
  Like,
• 49:00
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• 49:01
  don't,
• 49:01
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• 49:01
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• 49:01
  know
• 49:01
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• 49:01
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• 49:01
  bad
• 49:02
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• 49:02
  might
• 49:02
  be
• 49:03
  here.
• 49:03
  Right.
• 49:03
  But
• 49:04
  like,
• 49:04
  let's
• 49:05
  just
• 49:05
  say
• 49:05
  it's
• 49:06
  a
• 49:06
  sweatshirt
• 49:07
  of
• 49:07
  some
• 49:07
  variety
• 49:08
  or
• 49:08
  whatever.
• 49:09
  Well,
• 49:09
  that's
• 49:09
  just
• 49:09
  going
• 49:09
  to
• 49:09
  sit
• 49:10
  there.
• 49:10
  We
• 49:10
  live
• 49:10
  in
• 49:10
  Texas.
• 49:11
  He
• 49:11
  might
• 49:11
  wear
• 49:11
  that
• 49:12
  once
• 49:12
  a
• 49:12
  year.
• 49:13
  It's
• 49:13
  just
• 49:13
  going
• 49:13
  to
• 49:13
  sit
• 49:14
  there
• 49:14
  most.
• 49:15
  But
• 49:15
  I
• 49:15
  mean,
• 49:15
  I,
• 49:16
  I
• 49:16
  like
• 49:16
  the
• 49:16
  idea
• 49:17
  now
• 49:17
  of
• 49:17
  like
• 49:17
  gifts
• 49:18
  like
• 49:18
  this
• 49:18
  where
• 49:18
  someone
• 49:19
  can
• 49:19
  get
• 49:19
  it,
• 49:19
  use
• 49:20
  it,
• 49:20
  finish
• 49:20
  it
• 49:20
  and
• 49:21
  maybe
• 49:21
  they
• 49:21
  become
• 49:21
  a
• 49:21
  new
• 49:22
  customer.
• 49:22
  And
• 49:22
  we
• 49:22
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• 49:22
  you
• 49:23
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• 49:23
  become
• 49:23
  a
• 49:23
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• 49:23
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• 49:24
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• 49:25
  Sterling
• 49:25
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• 49:25
  Visit
• 49:26
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• 49:26
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• 49:26
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• 49:27
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• 49:27
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• 49:27
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• 49:28
  Eye
• 49:29
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• 49:32
  I
• 49:33
  transitioning
• 49:34
  back
• 49:34
  to
• 49:35
  Pippen
• 49:36
  talk
• 49:36
  here.
• 49:41
  The
• 49:42
  Pippin
• 49:42
  story
• 49:42
  continues
• 49:43
  to
• 49:43
  get
• 49:43
  weird.
• 49:44
  This
• 49:44
  is
• 49:44
  just
• 49:44
  a
• 49:44
  footnote
• 49:45
  and,
• 49:46
  and
• 49:46
  I
• 49:46
  know
• 49:46
  we're,
• 49:46
  we're
• 49:47
  close
• 49:47
  to
• 49:47
  wrapping
• 49:48
  up,
• 49:48
  but
• 49:49
  Pippin's
• 49:50
  ex
• 49:50
  wife
• 49:50
  dating
• 49:51
  Jordan's
• 49:51
  kid,
• 49:53
  I
• 49:54
  haven't
• 49:54
  been
• 49:54
  able
• 49:54
  to
• 49:55
  follow.
• 49:55
  I
• 49:55
  think
• 49:55
  they
• 49:55
  maybe
• 49:56
  have
• 49:56
  gotten
• 49:56
  engaged
• 49:57
  or
• 49:57
  married
• 49:58
  or
• 49:58
  divorced
• 49:58
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• 49:59
  Yeah,
• 49:59
  like,
• 50:00
  I
• 50:00
  don't
• 50:00
  know.
• 50:01
  I,
• 50:01
  I
• 50:01
  have
• 50:01
  no
• 50:02
  interest
• 50:02
  in
• 50:02
  keeping.
• 50:02
  No
• 50:03
  one
• 50:03
  knows.
• 50:03
  Yeah,
• 50:04
  I
• 50:04
  mean
• 50:04
  that's
• 50:04
  the
• 50:05
  way
• 50:05
  the.
• 50:05
  News,
• 50:05
  that
• 50:05
  whole
• 50:06
  thing
• 50:06
  got
• 50:06
  weird
• 50:06
  and
• 50:07
  it
• 50:07
  got
• 50:07
  wrapped
• 50:07
  up
• 50:08
  in
• 50:08
  it
• 50:08
  too.
• 50:09
  Yeah.
• 50:10
  But
• 50:10
  just
• 50:11
  like
• 50:11
  I,
• 50:12
  I'm
• 50:12
  with
• 50:12
  you
• 50:12
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• 50:13
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• 50:14
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• 50:14
  him
• 50:14
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• 50:15
  the
• 50:15
  bench
• 50:15
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• 50:15
  this
• 50:16
  game
• 50:17
  just
• 50:17
  be
• 50:17
  an
• 50:17
  agony.
• 50:18
  Like,
• 50:18
  and,
• 50:19
  and
• 50:19
  we
• 50:19
  talked
• 50:20
  about
• 50:20
  this
• 50:20
  when
• 50:20
  the
• 50:20
  last
• 50:21
  dance
• 50:21
  came
• 50:21
  out.
• 50:22
  The
• 50:22
  empathy
• 50:23
  for
• 50:23
  me,
• 50:23
  the
• 50:24
  big
• 50:24
  takeaway
• 50:24
  for
• 50:25
  me
• 50:25
  from
• 50:25
  that
• 50:25
  whole
• 50:25
  thing
• 50:25
  was
• 50:26
  the
• 50:26
  empathy
• 50:26
  I
• 50:26
  had
• 50:26
  for
• 50:27
  Scottie
• 50:27
  Pippen.
• 50:27
  Yes,
• 50:28
  definitely,
• 50:29
  definitely
• 50:30
  for
• 50:30
  that
• 50:31
  game.
• 50:31
  For,
• 50:31
  for
• 50:32
  the
• 50:32
  amount
• 50:32
  of
• 50:33
  disbelief.
• 50:34
  Pistons
• 50:35
  didn't
• 50:35
  help.
• 50:36
  I
• 50:36
  don't
• 50:36
  know
• 50:36
  if
• 50:36
  you
• 50:36
  ever
• 50:36
  saw
• 50:37
  the
• 50:37
  clip
• 50:37
  of
• 50:37
  Lambert
• 50:38
  after,
• 50:39
  you
• 50:39
  know,
• 50:39
  saying
• 50:40
  basically
• 50:40
  Hey,
• 50:40
  I
• 50:40
  can't
• 50:41
  speak
• 50:41
  for
• 50:41
  Scotty,
• 50:42
  but
• 50:42
  I
• 50:42
  can
• 50:42
  speak
• 50:42
  for
• 50:42
  everyone
• 50:43
  on
• 50:43
  the
• 50:44
  Detroit
• 50:44
  Pistons.
• 50:45
  If
• 50:45
  there's
• 50:46
  a
• 50:46
  game
• 50:46
  to
• 50:46
  be
• 50:46
  played
• 50:46
  and
• 50:47
  you're
• 50:47
  not,
• 50:48
  you
• 50:49
  know,
• 50:49
  laying
• 50:49
  down
• 50:50
  in
• 50:50
  angle
• 50:50
  or
• 50:50
  whatever,
• 50:51
  he
• 50:51
  uses
• 50:51
  something
• 50:51
  like,
• 50:52
  you
• 50:52
  know,
• 50:52
  practically
• 50:53
  dead.
• 50:54
  You're
• 50:54
  out
• 50:54
  there
• 50:54
  playing,
• 50:55
  you
• 50:55
  know,
• 50:55
  and.
• 50:56
  That's
• 50:56
  why
• 50:56
  they
• 50:57
  had.
• 50:57
  From
• 50:57
  every
• 50:58
  direction.
• 50:58
  That's
• 50:58
  why
• 50:58
  they
• 50:58
  had
• 50:59
  eight
• 50:59
  guys
• 50:59
  who
• 50:59
  played
• 50:59
  75
• 51:00
  games
• 51:00
  or
• 51:00
  more.
• 51:01
  Yes.
• 51:01
  Yeah.
• 51:02
  Like
• 51:02
  there
• 51:02
  would.
• 51:02
  There's,
• 51:03
  you
• 51:03
  know,
• 51:04
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• 51:04
  just
• 51:05
  Isaiah's
• 51:06
  playing
• 51:06
  38
• 51:07
  minutes
• 51:07
  a
• 51:07
  game
• 51:07
  that
• 51:08
  season.
• 51:08
  Have
• 51:08
  you
• 51:09
  ever
• 51:09
  had
• 51:09
  a
• 51:09
  migraine?
• 51:10
  No.
• 51:11
  No.
• 51:11
  Me
• 51:11
  neither.
• 51:11
  Do
• 51:12
  you
• 51:12
  think
• 51:12
  anything
• 51:13
  was
• 51:13
  learned
• 51:14
  from
• 51:14
  this
• 51:15
  in
• 51:15
  terms
• 51:15
  of
• 51:16
  whether
• 51:16
  it
• 51:16
  was
• 51:16
  later
• 51:16
  in
• 51:17
  life
• 51:17
  with
• 51:17
  Scotty
• 51:18
  or
• 51:18
  someone
• 51:18
  else?
• 51:19
  Like,
• 51:20
  hey,
• 51:20
  guys,
• 51:21
  you
• 51:21
  know,
• 51:22
  if
• 51:22
  it's
• 51:22
  a
• 51:22
  migraine,
• 51:23
  let's
• 51:24
  just
• 51:24
  sit
• 51:24
  them
• 51:25
  and
• 51:25
  let's
• 51:25
  say
• 51:26
  it's
• 51:26
  an
• 51:26
  Achilles
• 51:26
  strain
• 51:27
  or
• 51:27
  something,
• 51:28
  or
• 51:28
  it's
• 51:28
  a.
• 51:28
  It's
• 51:28
  a
• 51:29
  hamstring
• 51:29
  scare.
• 51:29
  I
• 51:30
  mean,
• 51:30
  people,
• 51:31
  no
• 51:31
  one
• 51:31
  is
• 51:31
  going
• 51:31
  to
• 51:32
  believe
• 51:32
  that
• 51:32
  a
• 51:32
  migraine
• 51:33
  is
• 51:33
  a
• 51:33
  reason
• 51:33
  why
• 51:33
  you
• 51:33
  shouldn't
• 51:34
  play.
• 51:34
  And
• 51:34
  I
• 51:35
  do
• 51:35
  believe
• 51:35
  it.
• 51:35
  I've
• 51:36
  had
• 51:36
  bad
• 51:36
  headaches.
• 51:37
  I
• 51:37
  don't
• 51:37
  think
• 51:37
  they've
• 51:37
  ever
• 51:38
  been
• 51:38
  migraines,
• 51:38
  but
• 51:38
  I
• 51:39
  know
• 51:39
  people
• 51:39
  have
• 51:39
  had
• 51:39
  migraines
• 51:40
  to
• 51:41
  the
• 51:41
  point
• 51:41
  of
• 51:42
  they're
• 51:43
  not
• 51:43
  just
• 51:44
  worthless
• 51:44
  in
• 51:44
  terms
• 51:45
  of
• 51:45
  trying
• 51:45
  to
• 51:46
  do
• 51:46
  some
• 51:46
  physical
• 51:47
  endeavor,
• 51:47
  but
• 51:48
  they're
• 51:48
  laying
• 51:49
  down,
• 51:49
  eyes
• 51:49
  closed
• 51:50
  in
• 51:50
  pain
• 51:51
  and
• 51:51
  just,
• 51:51
  you
• 51:51
  know,
• 51:52
  like,
• 51:52
  not
• 51:53
  a
• 51:53
  whole
• 51:53
  lot
• 51:53
  you
• 51:53
  can
• 51:54
  do.
• 51:54
  It's
• 51:54
  just
• 51:54
  got
• 51:54
  to
• 51:54
  go
• 51:55
  away
• 51:55
  eventually,
• 51:55
  you
• 51:56
  know,
• 51:56
  So
• 51:57
  I
• 51:57
  don't
• 51:58
  know,
• 51:58
  you.
• 51:58
  Know,
• 51:58
  but
• 51:59
  I
• 51:59
  think
• 51:59
  I
• 51:59
  saw.
• 52:00
  Was
• 52:00
  it
• 52:00
  Terrell
• 52:01
  Davis
• 52:02
  suffer
• 52:02
  from
• 52:02
  migraines
• 52:02
  and
• 52:03
  had
• 52:03
  one,
• 52:03
  I
• 52:03
  think,
• 52:03
  in
• 52:04
  a
• 52:04
  Super
• 52:04
  Bowl.
• 52:04
  Yes.
• 52:05
  And
• 52:05
  just
• 52:05
  talked.
• 52:06
  Talked
• 52:06
  about
• 52:07
  just
• 52:08
  how
• 52:08
  debilitating
• 52:09
  it
• 52:09
  is
• 52:09
  to
• 52:09
  have.
• 52:09
  I
• 52:10
  can't
• 52:10
  imagine,
• 52:10
  as
• 52:10
  a
• 52:11
  football
• 52:11
  player.
• 52:12
  Yeah.
• 52:12
  I
• 52:12
  mean.
• 52:13
  And
• 52:13
  also
• 52:13
  you're
• 52:14
  running.
• 52:14
  Yeah.
• 52:14
  I
• 52:15
  mean,
• 52:15
  forget
• 52:15
  about
• 52:16
  it.
• 52:16
  So.
• 52:16
  Yeah,
• 52:16
  I
• 52:17
  do
• 52:17
  remember
• 52:17
  that.
• 52:17
  That
• 52:18
  was
• 52:18
  in
• 52:18
  a.
• 52:19
  I
• 52:19
  think
• 52:19
  they
• 52:19
  talk
• 52:19
  about
• 52:20
  it
• 52:20
  in
• 52:20
  that
• 52:20
  Elway
• 52:21
  doc,
• 52:21
  that
• 52:22
  somewhat
• 52:22
  recent
• 52:22
  Elway
• 52:23
  dot.
• 52:23
  Yeah.
• 52:24
  That's
• 52:24
  a
• 52:24
  good
• 52:25
  doc,
• 52:25
  by
• 52:25
  the
• 52:25
  way.
• 52:25
  Yes.
• 52:26
  I
• 52:26
  thought
• 52:26
  that's.
• 52:28
  I
• 52:28
  know
• 52:28
  we're
• 52:29
  going
• 52:29
  to
• 52:29
  talk
• 52:29
  about
• 52:30
  docs
• 52:30
  as
• 52:30
  we
• 52:30
  get
• 52:31
  along,
• 52:31
  but
• 52:31
  I
• 52:31
  thought
• 52:31
  that
• 52:32
  LA
• 52:32
  one
• 52:32
  was
• 52:33
  phenomenal.
• 52:34
  It
• 52:34
  was
• 52:35
  the.
• 52:36
  You
• 52:36
  and
• 52:36
  I
• 52:37
  have
• 52:37
  talked
• 52:37
  about
• 52:37
  this,
• 52:37
  but
• 52:37
  the
• 52:38
  net
• 52:38
  flixification
• 52:40
  of
• 52:40
  sports
• 52:41
  stocks.
• 52:41
  I
• 52:41
  am
• 52:42
  not
• 52:42
  a
• 52:42
  huge
• 52:42
  fan
• 52:43
  of
• 52:43
  those.
• 52:44
  I
• 52:44
  thought
• 52:45
  the
• 52:45
  Elway
• 52:45
  one
• 52:45
  was
• 52:45
  great.
• 52:46
  Now,
• 52:46
  I
• 52:46
  think
• 52:46
  NFL
• 52:47
  Films
• 52:47
  did
• 52:47
  it
• 52:47
  and
• 52:48
  then
• 52:48
  basically
• 52:49
  gave
• 52:49
  it
• 52:50
  to
• 52:50
  Netflix
• 52:50
  or
• 52:50
  sold
• 52:50
  it
• 52:51
  to
• 52:51
  Netflix.
• 52:51
  So
• 52:52
  there's
• 52:52
  a
• 52:52
  difference
• 52:53
  there.
• 52:53
  And
• 52:53
  I
• 52:53
  think,
• 52:54
  you
• 52:54
  know,
• 52:54
  the
• 52:54
  Last
• 52:54
  Dance,
• 52:55
  that's
• 52:55
  all,
• 52:56
  you
• 52:56
  know,
• 52:56
  NBA.
• 52:58
  NBA
• 52:58
  Films
• 52:59
  had
• 52:59
  All
• 52:59
  that
• 52:59
  footage
• 53:00
  and,
• 53:00
  you
• 53:00
  know,
• 53:01
  all
• 53:01
  that
• 53:01
  stuff.
• 53:01
  But
• 53:02
  Netflix
• 53:02
  definitely
• 53:03
  saw
• 53:04
  the
• 53:04
  route
• 53:05
  because
• 53:05
  of
• 53:05
  30
• 53:06
  for
• 53:06
  30
• 53:06
  and
• 53:07
  ESPN
• 53:07
  and
• 53:08
  they've.
• 53:08
  There's
• 53:09
  a
• 53:09
  few,
• 53:09
  like,
• 53:09
  I
• 53:10
  do
• 53:10
  like
• 53:10
  the
• 53:10
  Malice
• 53:11
  in
• 53:11
  the
• 53:11
  palace
• 53:11
  one
• 53:11
  they
• 53:12
  did.
• 53:12
  Yeah.
• 53:14
  And
• 53:14
  I
• 53:14
  can't.
• 53:14
  I
• 53:15
  just
• 53:15
  feel
• 53:15
  like
• 53:15
  they're
• 53:15
  kind
• 53:15
  of
• 53:16
  slick.
• 53:16
  They're.
• 53:17
  They're.
• 53:18
  There's
• 53:20
  a
• 53:20
  formula
• 53:21
  there
• 53:21
  to
• 53:21
  them
• 53:21
  that
• 53:21
  I
• 53:22
  just
• 53:22
  don't
• 53:22
  jive
• 53:22
  with.
• 53:23
  That's
• 53:23
  just
• 53:23
  me,
• 53:23
  though.
• 53:24
  They
• 53:25
  obviously
• 53:25
  know
• 53:25
  what
• 53:25
  they're
• 53:26
  doing.
• 53:26
  They
• 53:26
  don't
• 53:26
  need
• 53:27
  my
• 53:27
  help.
• 53:27
  Yeah.
• 53:28
  And
• 53:28
  I'm
• 53:28
  not
• 53:28
  gonna.
• 53:29
  Yeah,
• 53:30
  I'm
• 53:30
  not
• 53:31
  gonna
• 53:31
  try
• 53:31
  and
• 53:31
  hum
• 53:31
  along
• 53:32
  or
• 53:32
  sing
• 53:32
  it,
• 53:32
  but
• 53:33
  that
• 53:33
  stupid
• 53:33
  intro
• 53:34
  they've
• 53:34
  got
• 53:35
  where
• 53:35
  it
• 53:35
  looks
• 53:36
  like
• 53:36
  it's
• 53:36
  like
• 53:36
  a
• 53:36
  playground
• 53:37
  in
• 53:37
  the
• 53:37
  middle
• 53:38
  of
• 53:38
  the
• 53:38
  night
• 53:38
  and
• 53:38
  there's
• 53:38
  people
• 53:39
  kind
• 53:39
  of
• 53:39
  running
• 53:39
  through
• 53:40
  it
• 53:40
  at
• 53:40
  points
• 53:40
  and
• 53:40
  it's
• 53:41
  this
• 53:41
  really
• 53:41
  weird
• 53:42
  music.
• 53:43
  I'm
• 53:43
  just
• 53:43
  like,
• 53:44
  what
• 53:44
  are
• 53:44
  we
• 53:44
  doing?
• 53:44
  I
• 53:44
  don't
• 53:45
  know.
• 53:45
  Again,
• 53:46
  I
• 53:46
  would
• 53:46
  say,
• 53:47
  you
• 53:47
  know,
• 53:47
  not
• 53:47
  to
• 53:48
  jump
• 53:48
  to
• 53:48
  documentaries,
• 53:49
  but
• 53:49
  documentaries
• 53:50
  are
• 53:50
  probably
• 53:51
  at
• 53:51
  least
• 53:52
  one
• 53:52
  of
• 53:52
  the
• 53:52
  pieces
• 53:52
  of
• 53:53
  the
• 53:53
  pie
• 53:54
  that
• 53:54
  created
• 53:54
  this.
• 53:55
  This
• 53:55
  podcast.
• 53:56
  You
• 53:56
  know
• 53:56
  what
• 53:56
  I
• 53:56
  mean?
• 53:56
  I
• 53:57
  mean,
• 53:57
  yeah.
• 53:58
  Our
• 53:58
  age
• 53:58
  and
• 53:58
  where
• 53:59
  we
• 53:59
  grew
• 53:59
  up.
• 53:59
  Well,
• 54:00
  just
• 54:00
  the
• 54:00
  YouTube.
• 54:01
  Yeah.
• 54:01
  YouTube
• 54:02
  has
• 54:02
  been.
• 54:03
  I
• 54:04
  get
• 54:04
  why
• 54:04
  people
• 54:05
  don't
• 54:05
  watch
• 54:05
  television
• 54:06
  anymore
• 54:06
  and
• 54:06
  just
• 54:07
  watch
• 54:07
  YouTube.
• 54:07
  Sure.
• 54:08
  You
• 54:09
  can
• 54:09
  do
• 54:09
  it
• 54:09
  three
• 54:09
  hours
• 54:10
  a
• 54:10
  night.
• 54:10
  Never
• 54:10
  repeat
• 54:11
  yourself
• 54:11
  for
• 54:12
  years
• 54:12
  upon
• 54:12
  years
• 54:12
  upon
• 54:13
  years.
• 54:13
  Like,
• 54:14
  find
• 54:14
  gold.
• 54:14
  We're
• 54:15
  about
• 54:15
  to
• 54:15
  do.
• 54:16
  You
• 54:16
  and
• 54:16
  I
• 54:16
  are
• 54:16
  about
• 54:17
  to
• 54:17
  do
• 54:17
  the
• 54:17
  90s
• 54:18
  Masters.
• 54:18
  And
• 54:19
  I'm
• 54:19
  like,
• 54:20
  it
• 54:20
  might
• 54:20
  be
• 54:20
  tough
• 54:20
  to
• 54:21
  find.
• 54:22
  Wrong.
• 54:23
  There's
• 54:24
  several
• 54:25
  of,
• 54:25
  like
• 54:26
  the
• 54:26
  final
• 54:26
  round.
• 54:27
  Like
• 54:27
  a
• 54:27
  three
• 54:27
  hour,
• 54:28
  30
• 54:28
  minute,
• 54:28
  like,
• 54:29
  uninterrupted
• 54:30
  broadcast.
• 54:31
  Yes.
• 54:31
  Of
• 54:32
  the
• 54:32
  1990s
• 54:33
  masters.
• 54:33
  Yeah.
• 54:34
  On
• 54:35
  YouTube.
• 54:35
  Yeah.
• 54:36
  And
• 54:36
  then
• 54:36
  like
• 54:37
  commercials.
• 54:38
  I
• 54:38
  don't
• 54:38
  even
• 54:38
  know
• 54:38
  if
• 54:38
  Jack
• 54:39
  Nicklaus
• 54:39
  was
• 54:39
  a
• 54:39
  part
• 54:40
  of,
• 54:40
  like,
• 54:40
  the
• 54:40
  final
• 54:40
  leaderboard.
• 54:41
  But,
• 54:41
  like,
• 54:42
  everybody,
• 54:42
  like,
• 54:42
  there's
• 54:43
  all
• 54:43
  of
• 54:43
  Jack
• 54:43
  Nicklaus's
• 54:44
  shots
• 54:44
  from
• 54:45
  the
• 54:45
  90s
• 54:45
  masters
• 54:45
  is
• 54:46
  on
• 54:46
  YouTube.
• 54:46
  Yeah.
• 54:47
  It's.
• 54:47
  It's
• 54:47
  incredible.
• 54:48
  It's
• 54:48
  an
• 54:48
  incredible
• 54:49
  resource,
• 54:49
  especially
• 54:50
  for
• 54:50
  guys
• 54:50
  like
• 54:50
  us.
• 54:51
  Yeah.
• 54:51
  That
• 54:52
  need
• 54:52
  it
• 54:52
  for
• 54:52
  things
• 54:53
  like
• 54:53
  this.
• 54:54
  No
• 54:54
  doubt
• 54:54
  it
• 54:55
  is.
• 54:55
  And
• 54:55
  I
• 54:55
  mean,
• 54:55
  it's
• 54:56
  completely
• 54:56
  become
• 54:57
  such
• 54:57
  a
• 54:59
  enjoyable
• 55:00
  part
• 55:00
  for
• 55:01
  me
• 55:01
  of
• 55:02
  consuming
• 55:02
  sports
• 55:03
  that
• 55:03
  I
• 55:04
  would
• 55:04
  say
• 55:04
  I
• 55:05
  am,
• 55:06
  on
• 55:06
  many
• 55:06
  levels,
• 55:07
  not
• 55:07
  a
• 55:07
  great
• 55:07
  sports
• 55:08
  fan
• 55:08
  now.
• 55:09
  Because,
• 55:10
  like,
• 55:10
  I
• 55:10
  will
• 55:10
  sit
• 55:11
  down
• 55:11
  sometimes
• 55:12
  and
• 55:12
  I
• 55:12
  will
• 55:13
  flip
• 55:13
  around
• 55:14
  NBA
• 55:14
  games,
• 55:15
  which,
• 55:15
  you
• 55:16
  know,
• 55:16
  NBA
• 55:16
  games
• 55:17
  are
• 55:17
  now
• 55:17
  on
• 55:17
  like
• 55:17
  5
• 55:18
  different
• 55:18
  outlets
• 55:19
  depending
• 55:19
  on
• 55:19
  what
• 55:19
  night
• 55:20
  of
• 55:20
  the
• 55:20
  week
• 55:20
  you're
• 55:20
  hitting
• 55:20
  it.
• 55:21
  I'll
• 55:21
  hit
• 55:22
  some
• 55:22
  current.
• 55:23
  Or
• 55:23
  this
• 55:23
  time
• 55:23
  of
• 55:23
  year,
• 55:24
  I'm
• 55:24
  probably
• 55:24
  obviously
• 55:24
  tuning
• 55:25
  into
• 55:25
  baseball.
• 55:25
  And
• 55:26
  there's
• 55:26
  still
• 55:26
  that
• 55:26
  level
• 55:26
  of
• 55:27
  excitement
• 55:27
  because
• 55:27
  we're
• 55:28
  in
• 55:28
  early
• 55:28
  or
• 55:28
  late
• 55:29
  March,
• 55:29
  and
• 55:29
  it
• 55:29
  just
• 55:29
  started.
• 55:30
  But
• 55:32
  I
• 55:32
  will.
• 55:32
  Inevitably,
• 55:33
  something
• 55:34
  will
• 55:34
  hit
• 55:34
  me,
• 55:35
  and
• 55:36
  I
• 55:36
  will.
• 55:36
  I'll
• 55:37
  switch
• 55:37
  and
• 55:37
  go
• 55:37
  look
• 55:37
  up
• 55:38
  an
• 55:38
  old
• 55:38
  game,
• 55:39
  and
• 55:39
  the
• 55:39
  next
• 55:39
  thing
• 55:39
  you
• 55:40
  know,
• 55:40
  you've
• 55:40
  got
• 55:40
  that
• 55:40
  YouTube
• 55:41
  trick
• 55:41
  where
• 55:41
  it's
• 55:42
  just
• 55:42
  rolling
• 55:42
  from
• 55:43
  the
• 55:43
  migraine
• 55:44
  game,
• 55:44
  and
• 55:44
  then
• 55:45
  it
• 55:45
  rolls
• 55:45
  directly
• 55:46
  into
• 55:48
  maybe
• 55:48
  like
• 55:48
  some
• 55:49
  other
• 55:49
  Bulls
• 55:49
  game
• 55:50
  or
• 55:50
  maybe
• 55:50
  another
• 55:50
  Pistons
• 55:51
  memory
• 55:52
  or
• 55:52
  something
• 55:52
  like
• 55:52
  that.
• 55:52
  Or
• 55:53
  it
• 55:53
  gives
• 55:53
  you.
• 55:53
  It
• 55:53
  gives
• 55:54
  you
• 55:54
  options.
• 55:54
  Gives
• 55:55
  you,
• 55:55
  like,
• 55:55
  three
• 55:55
  options.
• 55:56
  Yeah.
• 55:56
  And
• 55:56
  you
• 55:56
  look
• 55:57
  up
• 55:57
  and
• 55:57
  it's
• 55:57
  like
• 55:57
  three
• 55:58
  days
• 55:58
  later,
• 55:58
  and
• 55:59
  you're
• 55:59
  just
• 55:59
  like,
• 55:59
  what
• 56:00
  just
• 56:00
  happened?
• 56:01
  You
• 56:01
  know,
• 56:01
  I
• 56:01
  just
• 56:02
  consumed
• 56:03
  72
• 56:03
  hours
• 56:03
  of.
• 56:04
  And
• 56:04
  then
• 56:04
  when
• 56:05
  you
• 56:05
  come
• 56:05
  back
• 56:05
  on
• 56:05
  YouTube
• 56:06
  the
• 56:06
  next
• 56:06
  night,
• 56:07
  all
• 56:07
  of
• 56:07
  that
• 56:07
  is
• 56:07
  sitting
• 56:08
  there
• 56:08
  and
• 56:08
  it's
• 56:08
  curated
• 56:09
  new
• 56:09
  things
• 56:10
  for
• 56:10
  you
• 56:10
  to
• 56:10
  watch
• 56:10
  that
• 56:11
  are
• 56:11
  just
• 56:12
  adjacent
• 56:13
  to
• 56:13
  what
• 56:13
  you
• 56:13
  just.
• 56:14
  You
• 56:14
  know,
• 56:15
  it's
• 56:15
  incredible.
• 56:16
  You
• 56:17
  liked
• 56:17
  the
• 56:17
  migraine
• 56:18
  game.
• 56:18
  Well,
• 56:18
  then
• 56:19
  you
• 56:19
  might
• 56:19
  also
• 56:19
  like
• 56:20
  Michael
• 56:20
  Jordan's
• 56:21
  son.
• 56:22
  Yes.
• 56:22
  Yeah,
• 56:23
  exactly.
• 56:23
  Do
• 56:23
  you
• 56:23
  like
• 56:24
  tmz?
• 56:24
  Yeah.
• 56:26
  I
• 56:27
  don't
• 56:27
  know.
• 56:30
  I'm
• 56:30
  hoping,
• 56:30
  Scott,
• 56:31
  that
• 56:31
  when
• 56:32
  you
• 56:32
  and
• 56:32
  I
• 56:33
  look
• 56:33
  back
• 56:33
  at
• 56:33
  this,
• 56:33
  the
• 56:34
  podcast,
• 56:34
  that
• 56:34
  this
• 56:35
  is
• 56:35
  the
• 56:35
  worst
• 56:35
  sports
• 56:36
  game
• 56:36
  of
• 56:37
  the
• 56:37
  90s
• 56:38
  that
• 56:38
  we
• 56:38
  cover.
• 56:39
  This
• 56:40
  game
• 56:40
  was
• 56:41
  so
• 56:41
  tough
• 56:41
  to
• 56:42
  stomach
• 56:42
  and
• 56:42
  watch.
• 56:43
  And
• 56:43
  to
• 56:43
  be
• 56:43
  honest
• 56:44
  with
• 56:44
  you,
• 56:44
  I.
• 56:45
  You
• 56:45
  know,
• 56:46
  I
• 56:46
  really
• 56:46
  had
• 56:47
  hoped
• 56:47
  to
• 56:47
  play
• 56:47
  some
• 56:47
  clips
• 56:48
  and.
• 56:48
  But
• 56:49
  the
• 56:49
  Having
• 56:50
  Vern.
• 56:51
  I'm
• 56:51
  a
• 56:51
  huge
• 56:51
  Vern
• 56:52
  Lundqvist
• 56:52
  guy,
• 56:53
  and
• 56:53
  as
• 56:53
  we
• 56:53
  do,
• 56:54
  you
• 56:54
  know,
• 56:54
  golf,
• 56:54
  he
• 56:55
  will
• 56:55
  play
• 56:55
  a
• 56:55
  little
• 56:55
  bit
• 56:55
  more
• 56:55
  prominence.
• 56:56
  But
• 56:57
  having
• 56:57
  Vern
• 56:58
  on
• 56:58
  the
• 56:59
  call.
• 56:59
  Yeah,
• 56:59
  was
• 57:00
  awesome.
• 57:01
  And
• 57:01
  then
• 57:01
  to,
• 57:01
  like,
• 57:02
  slip
• 57:02
  it
• 57:02
  over
• 57:03
  to
• 57:03
  Pat
• 57:03
  o'
• 57:03
  Brien
• 57:04
  and
• 57:04
  slip
• 57:04
  it
• 57:04
  over
• 57:04
  to
• 57:04
  Leslie
• 57:05
  Vest,
• 57:05
  you
• 57:05
  know,
• 57:06
  Visser,
• 57:06
  it
• 57:06
  was
• 57:06
  just
• 57:06
  like.
• 57:07
  It
• 57:07
  was
• 57:07
  my
• 57:07
  childhood.
• 57:08
  It
• 57:08
  was.
• 57:08
  Yeah.
• 57:09
  Me
• 57:09
  growing
• 57:09
  up
• 57:10
  with
• 57:10
  the
• 57:10
  NBA
• 57:11
  and
• 57:11
  in
• 57:11
  the
• 57:11
  NFL,
• 57:12
  too,
• 57:12
  like,
• 57:12
  because
• 57:12
  they
• 57:13
  were
• 57:13
  in
• 57:13
  golf,
• 57:13
  they
• 57:13
  were
• 57:13
  all
• 57:14
  there
• 57:14
  for
• 57:14
  all
• 57:14
  of
• 57:15
  it.
• 57:15
  The
• 57:15
  nostalgia
• 57:16
  of
• 57:16
  it.
• 57:17
  I
• 57:17
  didn't
• 57:17
  tell
• 57:17
  you
• 57:18
  this,
• 57:18
  but
• 57:18
  when
• 57:18
  I
• 57:18
  went
• 57:19
  back
• 57:19
  and
• 57:19
  watched,
• 57:20
  I
• 57:20
  had
• 57:21
  started
• 57:22
  watching
• 57:23
  the
• 57:23
  finals
• 57:24
  and
• 57:24
  I
• 57:24
  watched
• 57:25
  all
• 57:25
  of
• 57:25
  game
• 57:25
  one
• 57:27
  again.
• 57:27
  Portland
• 57:28
  wins.
• 57:28
  It's
• 57:29
  not
• 57:29
  close,
• 57:29
  but
• 57:30
  equally,
• 57:30
  that
• 57:30
  was.
• 57:30
  The
• 57:31
  best
• 57:31
  out
• 57:31
  of
• 57:32
  the.
• 57:32
  Out
• 57:32
  of
• 57:32
  the
• 57:32
  finals
• 57:33
  that
• 57:33
  year.
• 57:33
  It
• 57:33
  was.
• 57:33
  And
• 57:34
  it
• 57:34
  was
• 57:34
  equally
• 57:34
  as
• 57:35
  bad
• 57:35
  as
• 57:35
  the
• 57:35
  migraine
• 57:36
  game
• 57:36
  in
• 57:36
  terms
• 57:36
  of
• 57:36
  watching
• 57:37
  it.
• 57:37
  And
• 57:37
  this
• 57:37
  is
• 57:37
  going
• 57:38
  to
• 57:38
  add
• 57:38
  a
• 57:38
  lot
• 57:38
  of
• 57:38
  fuel
• 57:38
  to
• 57:39
  your.
• 57:39
  The
• 57:39
  Pistons
• 57:39
  were
• 57:40
  just
• 57:40
  not
• 57:40
  fun
• 57:40
  to
• 57:40
  watch
• 57:41
  because
• 57:41
  they
• 57:41
  weren't.
• 57:42
  I
• 57:42
  mean,
• 57:42
  both
• 57:42
  teams
• 57:44
  similar
• 57:44
  to
• 57:44
  this
• 57:44
  game.
• 57:45
  It
• 57:45
  felt
• 57:45
  like
• 57:45
  they
• 57:45
  came
• 57:46
  out
• 57:46
  all
• 57:46
  defensive
• 57:47
  focused,
• 57:48
  and
• 57:48
  then
• 57:49
  it
• 57:49
  just
• 57:49
  kind
• 57:50
  of
• 57:50
  stays
• 57:50
  that
• 57:50
  way
• 57:50
  in
• 57:50
  that
• 57:51
  series.
• 57:51
  And
• 57:51
  then
• 57:51
  somehow
• 57:52
  Portland's
• 57:52
  defense
• 57:53
  just
• 57:53
  can't
• 57:54
  man
• 57:54
  up
• 57:54
  the
• 57:54
  rest
• 57:55
  of
• 57:55
  the
• 57:55
  time.
• 57:55
  But
• 57:58
  the
• 57:58
  nostalgia
• 57:59
  of
• 57:59
  it,
• 58:00
  I.
• 58:00
  As
• 58:00
  I
• 58:00
  was
• 58:00
  watching
• 58:01
  that,
• 58:01
  I
• 58:02
  also
• 58:02
  grabbed
• 58:03
  like
• 58:03
  a.
• 58:03
  A
• 58:03
  box
• 58:04
  of,
• 58:04
  like,
• 58:04
  1991
• 58:06
  upper
• 58:06
  deck
• 58:06
  baseball
• 58:07
  cards.
• 58:07
  And
• 58:08
  sat
• 58:08
  there,
• 58:08
  and
• 58:08
  I
• 58:08
  didn't
• 58:09
  open
• 58:09
  the
• 58:09
  whole
• 58:09
  box.
• 58:09
  Just
• 58:10
  went
• 58:10
  through
• 58:10
  some
• 58:10
  pack,
• 58:10
  and
• 58:11
  I
• 58:11
  was
• 58:11
  just
• 58:11
  like,
• 58:11
  oh,
• 58:11
  my
• 58:12
  gosh.
• 58:12
  Like,
• 58:13
  this
• 58:13
  is
• 58:13
  kind
• 58:13
  of
• 58:14
  my
• 58:14
  little
• 58:14
  slice
• 58:14
  of
• 58:14
  heaven
• 58:15
  is
• 58:15
  watching
• 58:16
  old
• 58:16
  sports,
• 58:17
  digging
• 58:17
  through
• 58:18
  some
• 58:18
  junk
• 58:18
  wax.
• 58:19
  No
• 58:19
  pressure.
• 58:20
  You
• 58:20
  know,
• 58:20
  I'm
• 58:21
  looking
• 58:21
  outside,
• 58:22
  I'm
• 58:22
  like,
• 58:22
  you
• 58:22
  know,
• 58:22
  hey,
• 58:23
  I
• 58:23
  could
• 58:24
  go
• 58:24
  mo.
• 58:24
  But,
• 58:25
  you
• 58:25
  know,
• 58:26
  why.
• 58:26
  Why
• 58:26
  mess
• 58:27
  this
• 58:27
  up
• 58:27
  right
• 58:27
  now?
• 58:28
  Drexler's
• 58:29
  about
• 58:29
  to
• 58:29
  go
• 58:29
  for
• 58:29
  10
• 58:30
  in
• 58:30
  the
• 58:30
  third.
• 58:31
  Exactly.
• 58:31
  Direct.
• 58:32
  You
• 58:32
  got
• 58:32
  Clyde
• 58:32
  the
• 58:32
  Glide.
• 58:33
  You've
• 58:34
  got
• 58:34
  lamb
• 58:34
  beer.
• 58:35
  I
• 58:35
  mean,
• 58:36
  yeah,
• 58:36
  I
• 58:36
  don't
• 58:36
  know.
• 58:37
  It's
• 58:37
  great.
• 58:37
  I
• 58:37
  love
• 58:38
  it.
• 58:38
  You
• 58:38
  know,
• 58:38
  the.
• 58:39
  The
• 58:39
  one
• 58:40
  last
• 58:40
  little
• 58:40
  topic.
• 58:41
  And
• 58:41
  I.
• 58:41
  Because
• 58:41
  I
• 58:41
  know
• 58:41
  we're.
• 58:42
  We're
• 58:42
  getting
• 58:43
  close
• 58:43
  to
• 58:43
  our
• 58:43
  end
• 58:43
  here,
• 58:44
  but
• 58:44
  I
• 58:44
  do
• 58:44
  want
• 58:44
  to
• 58:45
  go
• 58:45
  back
• 58:45
  just
• 58:45
  real
• 58:46
  quick
• 58:46
  on
• 58:46
  Isaiah,
• 58:47
  you
• 58:47
  know,
• 58:48
  and.
• 58:48
  And
• 58:48
  really,
• 58:49
  like,
• 58:49
  the,
• 58:51
  you
• 58:51
  know,
• 58:51
  kind
• 58:52
  of.
• 58:52
  And
• 58:52
  you.
• 58:52
  You
• 58:53
  used
• 58:53
  polarizing,
• 58:54
  which
• 58:54
  I
• 58:54
  would
• 58:54
  say
• 58:55
  that
• 58:55
  is
• 58:55
  perfect.
• 58:55
  I
• 58:56
  mean,
• 58:56
  the
• 58:56
  polarizing
• 58:57
  career
• 58:57
  of
• 58:57
  Isaiah
• 58:58
  Thomas.
• 58:59
  And
• 58:59
  looking
• 59:00
  back
• 59:00
  on
• 59:00
  it,
• 59:01
  like,
• 59:02
  I
• 59:02
  feel
• 59:02
  a
• 59:02
  little
• 59:02
  less
• 59:03
  polarized,
• 59:04
  you
• 59:04
  know,
• 59:04
  similar
• 59:04
  to
• 59:05
  how
• 59:05
  I
• 59:05
  feel
• 59:05
  more
• 59:06
  respect
• 59:06
  for
• 59:06
  the
• 59:06
  Pistons.
• 59:07
  I
• 59:08
  do
• 59:08
  feel
• 59:08
  like
• 59:08
  Isaiah
• 59:09
  did
• 59:09
  make
• 59:09
  some
• 59:10
  poor
• 59:10
  judgments.
• 59:11
  Who
• 59:11
  didn't,
• 59:11
  though,
• 59:12
  during
• 59:12
  that
• 59:12
  time?
• 59:13
  He
• 59:14
  definitely
• 59:14
  got
• 59:14
  caught
• 59:15
  up
• 59:15
  in
• 59:15
  the
• 59:15
  whole,
• 59:16
  if
• 59:16
  Larry
• 59:16
  Bird
• 59:17
  was
• 59:17
  a
• 59:17
  black
• 59:18
  guy,
• 59:18
  he'd
• 59:18
  be
• 59:18
  just
• 59:18
  another
• 59:19
  good
• 59:19
  player
• 59:20
  thing,
• 59:20
  where
• 59:20
  he
• 59:20
  was
• 59:21
  kind
• 59:21
  of
• 59:21
  echoing
• 59:21
  Rodman
• 59:22
  sentiment
• 59:22
  or
• 59:23
  whatever,
• 59:23
  had
• 59:24
  to
• 59:24
  deal
• 59:24
  with
• 59:24
  all
• 59:24
  that,
• 59:24
  which
• 59:25
  I'm
• 59:25
  sure
• 59:25
  that
• 59:25
  kind
• 59:26
  of
• 59:26
  hurt
• 59:26
  the
• 59:26
  image
• 59:27
  a
• 59:27
  little.
• 59:27
  Being
• 59:27
  the
• 59:28
  guy
• 59:28
  that
• 59:28
  finally
• 59:28
  beats
• 59:29
  Bird
• 59:29
  hurts
• 59:30
  the
• 59:30
  image.
• 59:30
  Being
• 59:30
  the
• 59:30
  guy
• 59:31
  that's
• 59:31
  holding
• 59:31
  Jordan
• 59:32
  down
• 59:32
  hurts
• 59:33
  the
• 59:33
  image.
• 59:34
  But
• 59:35
  I
• 59:35
  do
• 59:35
  feel
• 59:35
  like,
• 59:36
  man,
• 59:36
  as
• 59:36
  I
• 59:36
  look
• 59:36
  back
• 59:37
  at
• 59:37
  it,
• 59:37
  and
• 59:37
  you'll
• 59:37
  hear
• 59:38
  it
• 59:38
  from
• 59:38
  guys
• 59:38
  like
• 59:39
  Bill
• 59:39
  and
• 59:39
  others
• 59:39
  that,
• 59:41
  you
• 59:41
  know,
• 59:41
  when
• 59:41
  they'll.
• 59:42
  He'll
• 59:42
  do
• 59:42
  his
• 59:42
  pyramid.
• 59:44
  Like,
• 59:44
  there's
• 59:44
  times
• 59:45
  he's
• 59:45
  done
• 59:45
  that.
• 59:45
  And
• 59:45
  I
• 59:46
  thought,
• 59:46
  man,
• 59:46
  is
• 59:46
  Isaiah
• 59:47
  too
• 59:47
  high
• 59:47
  right
• 59:48
  here?
• 59:48
  Is
• 59:48
  this
• 59:48
  too
• 59:49
  high?
• 59:49
  You
• 59:49
  know,
• 59:50
  But
• 59:50
  I
• 59:50
  don't
• 59:50
  think
• 59:51
  he
• 59:51
  is.
• 59:51
  I
• 59:51
  think
• 59:51
  he
• 59:52
  is
• 59:52
  one
• 59:52
  of
• 59:52
  the
• 59:53
  greatest
• 59:53
  point
• 59:53
  guards
• 59:54
  of
• 59:55
  all
• 59:55
  time.
• 59:55
  I
• 59:55
  think
• 59:56
  he's
• 59:56
  definitely
• 59:56
  one
• 59:56
  of
• 59:56
  the
• 59:56
  greatest
• 59:57
  point
• 59:57
  guards
• 59:57
  of
• 59:57
  that
• 59:58
  era.
• 59:59
  And
• 1:00:00
  I
• 1:00:00
  just.
• 1:00:01
  Man,
• 1:00:01
  I
• 1:00:02
  know,
• 1:00:04
  you
• 1:00:04
  know,
• 1:00:04
  he
• 1:00:04
  was
• 1:00:04
  probably
• 1:00:05
  one
• 1:00:05
  of
• 1:00:05
  the
• 1:00:05
  ringleaders
• 1:00:06
  behind
• 1:00:06
  the
• 1:00:06
  whole
• 1:00:07
  walkout
• 1:00:07
  without
• 1:00:07
  shaking
• 1:00:08
  hands.
• 1:00:08
  When
• 1:00:08
  the
• 1:00:09
  Bulls
• 1:00:09
  finally
• 1:00:09
  get
• 1:00:10
  over
• 1:00:10
  that
• 1:00:10
  hump,
• 1:00:11
  I
• 1:00:11
  know
• 1:00:11
  he
• 1:00:11
  was
• 1:00:11
  part
• 1:00:12
  of
• 1:00:12
  the
• 1:00:13
  phone
• 1:00:13
  call
• 1:00:14
  with
• 1:00:14
  Joe
• 1:00:14
  Dumars
• 1:00:15
  where
• 1:00:15
  they
• 1:00:15
  stayed
• 1:00:15
  up
• 1:00:15
  all
• 1:00:16
  night
• 1:00:16
  and
• 1:00:16
  they
• 1:00:16
  created
• 1:00:17
  the
• 1:00:17
  Jordan
• 1:00:17
  rules.
• 1:00:18
  And
• 1:00:18
  the
• 1:00:18
  whole
• 1:00:18
  idea
• 1:00:19
  of,
• 1:00:19
  if
• 1:00:19
  he
• 1:00:19
  comes
• 1:00:20
  to
• 1:00:20
  the
• 1:00:20
  paint,
• 1:00:20
  his
• 1:00:21
  back
• 1:00:21
  is
• 1:00:21
  on
• 1:00:21
  the
• 1:00:21
  ground.
• 1:00:22
  I
• 1:00:22
  mean,
• 1:00:22
  yeah,
• 1:00:22
  for
• 1:00:22
  sure.
• 1:00:23
  I
• 1:00:23
  get
• 1:00:23
  all
• 1:00:23
  the
• 1:00:23
  reasons
• 1:00:24
  why
• 1:00:24
  you
• 1:00:24
  dislike
• 1:00:24
  him
• 1:00:25
  and
• 1:00:25
  why
• 1:00:25
  or
• 1:00:25
  anyone
• 1:00:26
  would
• 1:00:26
  and
• 1:00:26
  why
• 1:00:26
  Jordan
• 1:00:27
  did
• 1:00:27
  what
• 1:00:27
  he
• 1:00:28
  did.
• 1:00:28
  But
• 1:00:28
  what
• 1:00:29
  do
• 1:00:29
  you
• 1:00:29
  think?
• 1:00:29
  Let's
• 1:00:30
  sliding
• 1:00:30
  door
• 1:00:31
  this
• 1:00:31
  real
• 1:00:31
  quick.
• 1:00:31
  Quick.
• 1:00:32
  Jordan
• 1:00:33
  doesn't
• 1:00:33
  keep
• 1:00:33
  him
• 1:00:34
  off
• 1:00:34
  of
• 1:00:34
  the
• 1:00:34
  Dream
• 1:00:35
  team.
• 1:00:36
  What
• 1:00:36
  do
• 1:00:36
  you
• 1:00:36
  think?
• 1:00:36
  Do
• 1:00:37
  you
• 1:00:37
  think
• 1:00:37
  that
• 1:00:37
  has
• 1:00:37
  a
• 1:00:37
  big
• 1:00:38
  change
• 1:00:38
  in
• 1:00:38
  his
• 1:00:38
  legacy
• 1:00:39
  that
• 1:00:39
  now
• 1:00:39
  we
• 1:00:39
  view
• 1:00:40
  him
• 1:00:40
  as.
• 1:00:41
  It's
• 1:00:42
  bird
• 1:00:42
  magic.
• 1:00:43
  Jordan.
• 1:00:44
  Isaiah's
• 1:00:45
  kind
• 1:00:45
  of
• 1:00:45
  again,
• 1:00:45
  maybe
• 1:00:46
  one
• 1:00:46
  rung
• 1:00:46
  below,
• 1:00:47
  but
• 1:00:47
  he's
• 1:00:47
  at
• 1:00:47
  least
• 1:00:48
  there,
• 1:00:48
  like
• 1:00:48
  with
• 1:00:48
  Barkley
• 1:00:49
  and
• 1:00:49
  those
• 1:00:50
  guys.
• 1:00:50
  I
• 1:00:51
  think
• 1:00:51
  the
• 1:00:51
  question
• 1:00:51
  on
• 1:00:52
  the
• 1:00:52
  legacy
• 1:00:53
  aspect
• 1:00:53
  is
• 1:00:53
  how
• 1:00:54
  you
• 1:00:54
  feel
• 1:00:54
  about
• 1:00:54
  Isaiah
• 1:00:55
  after
• 1:00:55
  he
• 1:00:55
  got
• 1:00:56
  done
• 1:00:56
  playing
• 1:00:56
  because
• 1:00:56
  he
• 1:00:57
  was
• 1:00:57
  a
• 1:00:57
  terrible
• 1:00:57
  executive.
• 1:00:59
  He
• 1:00:59
  got
• 1:01:00
  kind
• 1:01:00
  of
• 1:01:00
  wrapped
• 1:01:00
  up
• 1:01:01
  in
• 1:01:01
  some
• 1:01:01
  me
• 1:01:01
  too
• 1:01:02
  stuff.
• 1:01:02
  As
• 1:01:02
  was
• 1:01:02
  Jordan.
• 1:01:03
  Right.
• 1:01:04
  I
• 1:01:04
  mean,
• 1:01:04
  would
• 1:01:04
  you
• 1:01:04
  say
• 1:01:05
  Jordan
• 1:01:05
  was
• 1:01:05
  horrible
• 1:01:06
  with
• 1:01:06
  Charlotte
• 1:01:06
  100?
• 1:01:07
  Yeah.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  But
• 1:01:08
  Jordan's
• 1:01:08
  also
• 1:01:09
  got
• 1:01:09
  me
• 1:01:09
  too.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah.
• 1:01:10
  There's
• 1:01:10
  no.
• 1:01:11
  And
• 1:01:11
  then
• 1:01:11
  he
• 1:01:11
  was
• 1:01:12
  terrible
• 1:01:12
  on
• 1:01:12
  tv.
• 1:01:13
  Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Like,
• 1:01:14
  he
• 1:01:14
  just
• 1:01:14
  wasn't
• 1:01:14
  very
• 1:01:14
  good
• 1:01:15
  on
• 1:01:15
  tv.
• 1:01:15
  No.
• 1:01:16
  And
• 1:01:17
  I.
• 1:01:17
  I
• 1:01:18
  just
• 1:01:18
  feel
• 1:01:18
  like
• 1:01:18
  we
• 1:01:19
  got
• 1:01:19
  to
• 1:01:19
  the
• 1:01:19
  point
• 1:01:19
  with
• 1:01:20
  Isaiah
• 1:01:20
  where
• 1:01:20
  we
• 1:01:20
  were
• 1:01:21
  kind
• 1:01:21
  of
• 1:01:21
  like,
• 1:01:21
  hey,
• 1:01:21
  won't
• 1:01:21
  you
• 1:01:22
  go
• 1:01:22
  do
• 1:01:22
  something
• 1:01:22
  else?
• 1:01:23
  Yes.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  And
• 1:01:24
  I
• 1:01:25
  mean,
• 1:01:25
  the
• 1:01:26
  post
• 1:01:26
  probably,
• 1:01:28
  you
• 1:01:28
  know,
• 1:01:28
  that's
• 1:01:29
  probably
• 1:01:29
  a
• 1:01:31
  simplification
• 1:01:33
  of
• 1:01:33
  Isaiah
• 1:01:34
  post.
• 1:01:34
  Post
• 1:01:36
  career.
• 1:01:37
  Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Everything
• 1:01:39
  you
• 1:01:39
  said
• 1:01:39
  I
• 1:01:39
  agree
• 1:01:40
  with
• 1:01:40
  in
• 1:01:40
  terms
• 1:01:40
  of
• 1:01:41
  stature
• 1:01:42
  and
• 1:01:42
  in
• 1:01:43
  terms
• 1:01:43
  of
• 1:01:43
  on
• 1:01:44
  the
• 1:01:44
  court
• 1:01:44
  accomplishments,
• 1:01:45
  like
• 1:01:47
  you
• 1:01:47
  and
• 1:01:47
  I
• 1:01:48
  have
• 1:01:48
  already
• 1:01:48
  talked
• 1:01:48
  about,
• 1:01:48
  like
• 1:01:49
  we
• 1:01:49
  will
• 1:01:49
  do
• 1:01:50
  when
• 1:01:50
  we
• 1:01:50
  do
• 1:01:50
  dream
• 1:01:51
  team
• 1:01:51
  in
• 1:01:51
  92.
• 1:01:52
  Like,
• 1:01:53
  this
• 1:01:53
  will
• 1:01:53
  be
• 1:01:53
  a
• 1:01:54
  major
• 1:01:54
  topic.
• 1:01:54
  Because
• 1:01:55
  it
• 1:01:55
  is
• 1:01:55
  a
• 1:01:55
  major
• 1:01:55
  topic.
• 1:01:56
  Yes.
• 1:01:57
  And
• 1:01:57
  I
• 1:01:57
  just.
• 1:02:00
  It.
• 1:02:01
  To
• 1:02:01
  me,
• 1:02:01
  it's.
• 1:02:01
  It's
• 1:02:02
  kind
• 1:02:02
  of
• 1:02:02
  in
• 1:02:02
  that
• 1:02:03
  pippin
• 1:02:03
  bucket
• 1:02:03
  a
• 1:02:04
  little
• 1:02:04
  bit
• 1:02:04
  where
• 1:02:05
  he
• 1:02:05
  just
• 1:02:05
  can't
• 1:02:05
  let
• 1:02:06
  stuff
• 1:02:06
  go.
• 1:02:06
  Jordan
• 1:02:07
  just
• 1:02:07
  can't
• 1:02:07
  let
• 1:02:07
  stuff
• 1:02:08
  go.
• 1:02:08
  Yeah.
• 1:02:08
  Ever.
• 1:02:09
  No.
• 1:02:10
  And
• 1:02:10
  it
• 1:02:10
  was
• 1:02:10
  basically
• 1:02:11
  like,
• 1:02:11
  I
• 1:02:11
  can
• 1:02:11
  do
• 1:02:11
  this
• 1:02:12
  to
• 1:02:12
  you,
• 1:02:12
  so
• 1:02:12
  I'm
• 1:02:12
  going
• 1:02:13
  to
• 1:02:13
  do
• 1:02:13
  it
• 1:02:13
  to
• 1:02:13
  you.
• 1:02:14
  And
• 1:02:14
  nobody.
• 1:02:14
  And
• 1:02:15
  another
• 1:02:15
  thing
• 1:02:15
  that
• 1:02:15
  the.
• 1:02:16
  The
• 1:02:16
  COVID
• 1:02:16
  that
• 1:02:17
  they.
• 1:02:17
  That
• 1:02:17
  we
• 1:02:17
  always
• 1:02:18
  heard
• 1:02:18
  was
• 1:02:18
  nobody
• 1:02:19
  wants
• 1:02:19
  him
• 1:02:19
  in
• 1:02:19
  that
• 1:02:19
  room.
• 1:02:20
  Yes.
• 1:02:21
  That
• 1:02:21
  nobody
• 1:02:22
  wants
• 1:02:22
  him
• 1:02:22
  in
• 1:02:22
  that
• 1:02:22
  room.
• 1:02:23
  Even
• 1:02:23
  though
• 1:02:23
  he
• 1:02:23
  and
• 1:02:23
  Magic
• 1:02:24
  were,
• 1:02:24
  you
• 1:02:24
  know,
• 1:02:25
  kissing
• 1:02:26
  buddies
• 1:02:26
  before
• 1:02:26
  games
• 1:02:27
  and
• 1:02:27
  very
• 1:02:28
  close.
• 1:02:29
  Do
• 1:02:29
  you
• 1:02:29
  want
• 1:02:29
  to
• 1:02:29
  know
• 1:02:32
  the
• 1:02:32
  ball
• 1:02:33
  is
• 1:02:33
  rolling
• 1:02:33
  away
• 1:02:33
  here,
• 1:02:34
  metaphorically
• 1:02:35
  speaking?
• 1:02:35
  No.
• 1:02:35
  You're
• 1:02:35
  fine.
• 1:02:36
  My
• 1:02:36
  favorite
• 1:02:36
  Isaiah
• 1:02:37
  Thomas
• 1:02:37
  thing
• 1:02:37
  ever
• 1:02:38
  is
• 1:02:38
  when
• 1:02:38
  he
• 1:02:38
  pops
• 1:02:39
  up
• 1:02:39
  in
• 1:02:39
  hoop
• 1:02:39
  dreams.
• 1:02:41
  When
• 1:02:41
  he
• 1:02:41
  pops
• 1:02:42
  up
• 1:02:42
  in
• 1:02:42
  hoop
• 1:02:42
  dreams
• 1:02:42
  at
• 1:02:42
  the
• 1:02:43
  camp.
• 1:02:43
  That's
• 1:02:44
  the
• 1:02:44
  only
• 1:02:44
  time
• 1:02:44
  I've
• 1:02:44
  ever
• 1:02:45
  liked
• 1:02:45
  Isaiah
• 1:02:45
  Thomas
• 1:02:46
  anywhere
• 1:02:46
  else.
• 1:02:48
  I
• 1:02:48
  can't
• 1:02:49
  wait
• 1:02:49
  for
• 1:02:49
  hoop
• 1:02:49
  dreams
• 1:02:50
  either.
• 1:02:50
  The.
• 1:02:52
  Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  That.
• 1:02:53
  You're
• 1:02:53
  right.
• 1:02:53
  That
• 1:02:54
  is
• 1:02:54
  such
• 1:02:54
  a
• 1:02:55
  cool
• 1:02:56
  moment.
• 1:02:56
  And
• 1:02:56
  of
• 1:02:56
  course,
• 1:02:56
  Isaiah's
• 1:02:57
  kind
• 1:02:57
  of
• 1:02:57
  held
• 1:02:57
  up
• 1:02:58
  on
• 1:02:58
  a
• 1:02:58
  pedestal
• 1:02:58
  that
• 1:02:58
  whole
• 1:02:59
  documentary.
• 1:02:59
  Just
• 1:03:00
  because
• 1:03:00
  of
• 1:03:00
  school,
• 1:03:00
  but
• 1:03:01
  as
• 1:03:01
  he
• 1:03:02
  should
• 1:03:02
  be.
• 1:03:02
  Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  I
• 1:03:03
  don't
• 1:03:03
  know.
• 1:03:03
  I
• 1:03:03
  like.
• 1:03:04
  And
• 1:03:04
  I
• 1:03:04
  guess
• 1:03:04
  that
• 1:03:04
  would
• 1:03:05
  be
• 1:03:05
  my
• 1:03:05
  synopsis
• 1:03:06
  on
• 1:03:06
  this
• 1:03:06
  whole
• 1:03:07
  thing
• 1:03:07
  is
• 1:03:07
  that
• 1:03:08
  I'm,
• 1:03:08
  I'm,
• 1:03:08
  I'm
• 1:03:09
  happy
• 1:03:09
  we
• 1:03:09
  went
• 1:03:09
  through
• 1:03:10
  this.
• 1:03:10
  I
• 1:03:10
  know
• 1:03:11
  we
• 1:03:11
  were
• 1:03:11
  kind
• 1:03:11
  of
• 1:03:11
  like,
• 1:03:12
  I
• 1:03:12
  don't
• 1:03:12
  know,
• 1:03:12
  can
• 1:03:13
  we
• 1:03:13
  really
• 1:03:13
  talk
• 1:03:13
  about
• 1:03:14
  the
• 1:03:14
  Pistons
• 1:03:14
  that
• 1:03:14
  long?
• 1:03:15
  And.
• 1:03:16
  But
• 1:03:16
  the
• 1:03:16
  migraine
• 1:03:17
  game
• 1:03:17
  does
• 1:03:17
  make
• 1:03:17
  it
• 1:03:18
  like
• 1:03:18
  where
• 1:03:18
  you
• 1:03:18
  can.
• 1:03:18
  And
• 1:03:18
  I'm
• 1:03:19
  glad
• 1:03:19
  we
• 1:03:19
  did
• 1:03:19
  this.
• 1:03:20
  But
• 1:03:20
  I
• 1:03:20
  think
• 1:03:21
  in
• 1:03:21
  researching
• 1:03:22
  it
• 1:03:22
  and
• 1:03:22
  digging
• 1:03:22
  in
• 1:03:23
  and
• 1:03:23
  watching
• 1:03:23
  some
• 1:03:24
  of
• 1:03:24
  that,
• 1:03:24
  and
• 1:03:24
  I
• 1:03:24
  mean,
• 1:03:24
  I
• 1:03:25
  went
• 1:03:25
  back
• 1:03:25
  and
• 1:03:25
  watched
• 1:03:26
  the
• 1:03:26
  Bad
• 1:03:26
  Boys
• 1:03:26
  doc
• 1:03:26
  twice.
• 1:03:27
  I
• 1:03:27
  watched
• 1:03:27
  some
• 1:03:27
  bits
• 1:03:28
  of
• 1:03:28
  the
• 1:03:28
  Last
• 1:03:29
  Dance,
• 1:03:29
  and
• 1:03:29
  then
• 1:03:30
  I
• 1:03:30
  just
• 1:03:30
  started
• 1:03:30
  picking
• 1:03:30
  out
• 1:03:31
  games
• 1:03:31
  and
• 1:03:31
  interviews
• 1:03:33
  and
• 1:03:33
  I
• 1:03:33
  was
• 1:03:33
  like,
• 1:03:34
  man,
• 1:03:35
  I
• 1:03:35
  can't
• 1:03:35
  speak
• 1:03:35
  for
• 1:03:36
  everybody,
• 1:03:36
  but
• 1:03:36
  I
• 1:03:37
  do
• 1:03:37
  feel
• 1:03:37
  like
• 1:03:37
  this
• 1:03:37
  is
• 1:03:37
  probably
• 1:03:38
  the
• 1:03:38
  general
• 1:03:39
  sports
• 1:03:39
  fan
• 1:03:41
  take
• 1:03:41
  on
• 1:03:41
  them,
• 1:03:42
  is
• 1:03:42
  I
• 1:03:42
  feel
• 1:03:42
  like
• 1:03:43
  I
• 1:03:43
  wasn't
• 1:03:44
  giving
• 1:03:44
  them
• 1:03:44
  their
• 1:03:44
  due
• 1:03:45
  now,
• 1:03:45
  and
• 1:03:46
  I
• 1:03:46
  wasn't
• 1:03:46
  giving
• 1:03:46
  Isaiah
• 1:03:47
  his
• 1:03:47
  due
• 1:03:47
  either,
• 1:03:48
  and
• 1:03:49
  probably
• 1:03:49
  Lambert
• 1:03:50
  and
• 1:03:50
  all
• 1:03:50
  those
• 1:03:50
  other
• 1:03:50
  guys
• 1:03:51
  as
• 1:03:51
  well,
• 1:03:51
  early
• 1:03:52
  Rodman,
• 1:03:52
  all
• 1:03:52
  that.
• 1:03:53
  But,
• 1:03:53
  man,
• 1:03:54
  they,
• 1:03:54
  they,
• 1:03:55
  they,
• 1:03:55
  they
• 1:03:55
  are
• 1:03:55
  deserving
• 1:03:56
  of
• 1:03:56
  that.
• 1:03:57
  You
• 1:03:57
  know,
• 1:03:58
  they're
• 1:03:59
  very
• 1:03:59
  much
• 1:03:59
  part
• 1:03:59
  of
• 1:04:00
  that
• 1:04:00
  ramp
• 1:04:00
  up
• 1:04:00
  to
• 1:04:00
  Jordan.
• 1:04:01
  You
• 1:04:01
  know,
• 1:04:01
  it
• 1:04:02
  wasn't
• 1:04:02
  just
• 1:04:02
  a
• 1:04:02
  jump
• 1:04:03
  from
• 1:04:03
  Bird
• 1:04:03
  and
• 1:04:03
  Magic.
• 1:04:04
  I
• 1:04:04
  mean,
• 1:04:04
  there
• 1:04:04
  was
• 1:04:04
  three
• 1:04:05
  years
• 1:04:05
  there
• 1:04:05
  where
• 1:04:06
  Isaiah
• 1:04:06
  and
• 1:04:06
  the
• 1:04:06
  Pistons
• 1:04:07
  were
• 1:04:08
  as
• 1:04:08
  good
• 1:04:09
  as
• 1:04:09
  it
• 1:04:09
  got.
• 1:04:09
  And,
• 1:04:10
  you
• 1:04:10
  know,
• 1:04:10
  they
• 1:04:11
  couldn't
• 1:04:11
  win
• 1:04:11
  that
• 1:04:11
  first
• 1:04:12
  year.
• 1:04:12
  That
• 1:04:12
  was
• 1:04:12
  Magic.
• 1:04:13
  And
• 1:04:14
  the
• 1:04:14
  Lakers
• 1:04:14
  beat
• 1:04:14
  them
• 1:04:15
  the
• 1:04:15
  first
• 1:04:15
  time
• 1:04:15
  they
• 1:04:15
  made
• 1:04:15
  it,
• 1:04:16
  but
• 1:04:16
  nonetheless
• 1:04:18
  changed
• 1:04:18
  my
• 1:04:19
  perspective,
• 1:04:19
  for
• 1:04:19
  sure.
• 1:04:20
  Well,
• 1:04:20
  I
• 1:04:20
  think
• 1:04:20
  that's
• 1:04:21
  a
• 1:04:21
  good
• 1:04:21
  place
• 1:04:22
  to
• 1:04:23
  call
• 1:04:23
  it
• 1:04:23
  a
• 1:04:23
  day.
• 1:04:24
  Yes.
• 1:04:25
  To
• 1:04:25
  end
• 1:04:25
  this
• 1:04:25
  episode.
• 1:04:26
  Are
• 1:04:26
  we
• 1:04:26
  going
• 1:04:27
  to
• 1:04:27
  tease
• 1:04:27
  what
• 1:04:28
  we
• 1:04:28
  got
• 1:04:28
  coming
• 1:04:28
  up?
• 1:04:28
  Because
• 1:04:29
  I'll
• 1:04:29
  be
• 1:04:29
  honest
• 1:04:29
  with
• 1:04:30
  you,
• 1:04:30
  I
• 1:04:30
  am
• 1:04:31
  super
• 1:04:32
  pumped.
• 1:04:32
  I
• 1:04:33
  think
• 1:04:33
  I'm
• 1:04:33
  very
• 1:04:33
  excited,
• 1:04:34
  even
• 1:04:34
  though
• 1:04:34
  I
• 1:04:34
  think
• 1:04:35
  these
• 1:04:35
  could
• 1:04:35
  be
• 1:04:35
  end
• 1:04:35
  up
• 1:04:36
  being
• 1:04:36
  released
• 1:04:36
  within
• 1:04:36
  days
• 1:04:37
  of
• 1:04:37
  each
• 1:04:37
  other.
• 1:04:37
  And,
• 1:04:38
  you
• 1:04:38
  know,
• 1:04:38
  it's
• 1:04:38
  an
• 1:04:38
  evergreen
• 1:04:39
  content
• 1:04:40
  podcast,
• 1:04:40
  but
• 1:04:41
  I
• 1:04:41
  think.
• 1:04:42
  Jesus.
• 1:04:43
  Our
• 1:04:43
  next
• 1:04:43
  podcast
• 1:04:44
  will
• 1:04:44
  be
• 1:04:45
  during
• 1:04:45
  Masters
• 1:04:45
  week.
• 1:04:46
  We
• 1:04:46
  will
• 1:04:46
  cover
• 1:04:47
  the
• 1:04:47
  1990s
• 1:04:48
  masters,
• 1:04:49
  which
• 1:04:49
  was
• 1:04:49
  won
• 1:04:49
  by
• 1:04:49
  Nick
• 1:04:50
  Faldo,
• 1:04:50
  who
• 1:04:51
  won
• 1:04:51
  back
• 1:04:51
  to
• 1:04:51
  back.
• 1:04:52
  But
• 1:04:53
  we're
• 1:04:54
  going
• 1:04:54
  to
• 1:04:54
  get
• 1:04:56
  maybe
• 1:04:56
  some
• 1:04:57
  time
• 1:04:58
  with
• 1:04:59
  New
• 1:04:59
  York
• 1:05:00
  Times
• 1:05:00
  bestselling
• 1:05:01
  author
• 1:05:01
  Alan
• 1:05:01
  Shipnuch,
• 1:05:02
  who
• 1:05:02
  has
• 1:05:02
  a
• 1:05:02
  new
• 1:05:02
  book
• 1:05:03
  called
• 1:05:03
  Rory
• 1:05:04
  that's
• 1:05:04
  about
• 1:05:04
  Rory
• 1:05:05
  McElroy.
• 1:05:06
  He
• 1:05:07
  is
• 1:05:07
  going
• 1:05:07
  to
• 1:05:07
  join
• 1:05:07
  the
• 1:05:08
  podcast
• 1:05:08
  for
• 1:05:09
  a
• 1:05:09
  conversation
• 1:05:10
  about
• 1:05:10
  Rory.
• 1:05:11
  We're
• 1:05:11
  probably
• 1:05:11
  going
• 1:05:11
  to
• 1:05:11
  get
• 1:05:11
  into
• 1:05:12
  some
• 1:05:12
  Phil,
• 1:05:13
  his
• 1:05:13
  time
• 1:05:14
  in
• 1:05:14
  the
• 1:05:14
  90s
• 1:05:15
  as
• 1:05:15
  a
• 1:05:15
  writer
• 1:05:15
  for
• 1:05:15
  Sports
• 1:05:16
  Illustrated,
• 1:05:17
  and
• 1:05:17
  then
• 1:05:19
  hopefully
• 1:05:19
  we'll
• 1:05:20
  touch
• 1:05:20
  base
• 1:05:20
  on
• 1:05:20
  the
• 1:05:20
  90s
• 1:05:21
  masters,
• 1:05:21
  which
• 1:05:21
  was.
• 1:05:22
  I've
• 1:05:22
  already
• 1:05:22
  started
• 1:05:22
  watching
• 1:05:23
  that
• 1:05:23
  final
• 1:05:23
  round
• 1:05:24
  and
• 1:05:25
  like,
• 1:05:25
  I
• 1:05:26
  mean,
• 1:05:27
  just,
• 1:05:28
  I
• 1:05:28
  can't.
• 1:05:29
  I
• 1:05:29
  can't
• 1:05:29
  even
• 1:05:30
  begin
• 1:05:30
  to
• 1:05:30
  explain
• 1:05:30
  to
• 1:05:30
  you
• 1:05:31
  how
• 1:05:31
  happy
• 1:05:31
  it
• 1:05:31
  makes
• 1:05:32
  me
• 1:05:32
  to
• 1:05:32
  watch
• 1:05:32
  the
• 1:05:33
  final
• 1:05:33
  round
• 1:05:33
  of
• 1:05:34
  the
• 1:05:34
  1990s
• 1:05:34
  Masters.
• 1:05:35
  In
• 1:05:36
  anticipation
• 1:05:36
  of
• 1:05:37
  our
• 1:05:37
  conversation
• 1:05:37
  and
• 1:05:38
  in
• 1:05:38
  anticipation
• 1:05:39
  of
• 1:05:39
  this
• 1:05:39
  year's
• 1:05:40
  Masters,
• 1:05:40
  Rory
• 1:05:41
  will
• 1:05:41
  try
• 1:05:41
  to
• 1:05:42
  go
• 1:05:42
  back
• 1:05:42
  to
• 1:05:42
  back
• 1:05:43
  for
• 1:05:43
  the
• 1:05:44
  second
• 1:05:44
  time
• 1:05:45
  or
• 1:05:45
  for
• 1:05:46
  a
• 1:05:46
  golfer.
• 1:05:46
  We've
• 1:05:47
  only
• 1:05:47
  had
• 1:05:47
  one
• 1:05:47
  back
• 1:05:48
  to
• 1:05:48
  back
• 1:05:48
  golfer
• 1:05:49
  since
• 1:05:49
  Faldo
• 1:05:50
  and
• 1:05:50
  nanny.
• 1:05:50
  That
• 1:05:50
  was
• 1:05:51
  Tiger
• 1:05:51
  in
• 1:05:51
  the
• 1:05:51
  early
• 1:05:52
  aughts.
• 1:05:52
  Okay.
• 1:05:53
  So
• 1:05:53
  he
• 1:05:53
  will
• 1:05:53
  try
• 1:05:54
  to
• 1:05:54
  be
• 1:05:55
  the
• 1:05:55
  second
• 1:05:56
  back
• 1:05:56
  to
• 1:05:56
  back
• 1:05:57
  golfer
• 1:05:57
  to
• 1:05:57
  win
• 1:05:57
  the
• 1:05:58
  Masters.
• 1:05:58
  Let's
• 1:05:59
  go.
• 1:05:59
  I
• 1:05:59
  like
• 1:05:59
  Rory.
• 1:06:00
  I
• 1:06:00
  don't
• 1:06:00
  think
• 1:06:00
  I
• 1:06:00
  said
• 1:06:00
  that
• 1:06:00
  correctly,
• 1:06:01
  but
• 1:06:01
  I
• 1:06:01
  think
• 1:06:01
  you
• 1:06:02
  know
• 1:06:02
  what
• 1:06:02
  I
• 1:06:02
  mean.
• 1:06:02
  We
• 1:06:02
  know
• 1:06:03
  what
• 1:06:03
  you
• 1:06:03
  mean.
• 1:06:03
  Yeah.
• 1:06:03
  I
• 1:06:04
  think
• 1:06:05
  the
• 1:06:05
  other
• 1:06:05
  thing
• 1:06:05
  you
• 1:06:06
  left
• 1:06:06
  out
• 1:06:06
  there
• 1:06:06
  was
• 1:06:07
  that,
• 1:06:07
  you
• 1:06:07
  know,
• 1:06:07
  we're
• 1:06:07
  going
• 1:06:07
  to
• 1:06:08
  do
• 1:06:08
  this
• 1:06:08
  and
• 1:06:08
  this
• 1:06:08
  and
• 1:06:09
  talk
• 1:06:09
  about
• 1:06:09
  this
• 1:06:09
  and
• 1:06:10
  blah,
• 1:06:10
  blah.
• 1:06:10
  And
• 1:06:10
  is
• 1:06:10
  the
• 1:06:11
  thing
• 1:06:11
  where
• 1:06:11
  you
• 1:06:11
  said
• 1:06:11
  last
• 1:06:12
  night
• 1:06:12
  and
• 1:06:12
  then
• 1:06:12
  the
• 1:06:12
  three
• 1:06:12
  of
• 1:06:12
  us
• 1:06:13
  will
• 1:06:13
  become
• 1:06:13
  best
• 1:06:13
  friends
• 1:06:13
  and
• 1:06:14
  he'll
• 1:06:14
  take
• 1:06:14
  us
• 1:06:14
  to
• 1:06:14
  the
• 1:06:14
  2027
• 1:06:16
  Masters
• 1:06:16
  with
• 1:06:17
  him
• 1:06:17
  as
• 1:06:17
  his.
• 1:06:17
  As
• 1:06:18
  you
• 1:06:18
  probably
• 1:06:18
  could
• 1:06:18
  get
• 1:06:19
  us
• 1:06:19
  monkeys
• 1:06:19
  or
• 1:06:19
  whatever.
• 1:06:20
  I,
• 1:06:21
  I
• 1:06:21
  will.
• 1:06:21
  I.
• 1:06:22
  Yes.
• 1:06:23
  I'm
• 1:06:23
  really
• 1:06:23
  hoping.
• 1:06:24
  I
• 1:06:24
  listened
• 1:06:24
  to
• 1:06:24
  him
• 1:06:25
  on
• 1:06:25
  a
• 1:06:25
  podcast
• 1:06:25
  today
• 1:06:25
  with
• 1:06:26
  a
• 1:06:26
  bunch
• 1:06:26
  of
• 1:06:26
  guys
• 1:06:26
  from,
• 1:06:27
  from
• 1:06:28
  Ireland
• 1:06:28
  and
• 1:06:29
  I
• 1:06:29
  don't
• 1:06:29
  think
• 1:06:29
  he's
• 1:06:29
  going
• 1:06:30
  to
• 1:06:30
  love
• 1:06:30
  us
• 1:06:31
  more
• 1:06:31
  than
• 1:06:31
  he
• 1:06:31
  loves
• 1:06:31
  those
• 1:06:32
  guys.
• 1:06:32
  Oh,
• 1:06:32
  should
• 1:06:32
  I
• 1:06:32
  do
• 1:06:33
  an
• 1:06:33
  Irish
• 1:06:33
  accent,
• 1:06:34
  Scott?
• 1:06:34
  Does
• 1:06:34
  he
• 1:06:34
  accent?
• 1:06:35
  I'll
• 1:06:35
  work
• 1:06:35
  on
• 1:06:35
  it.
• 1:06:36
  I'll
• 1:06:36
  work
• 1:06:36
  on
• 1:06:36
  it.
• 1:06:36
  Even
• 1:06:36
  though
• 1:06:37
  it
• 1:06:37
  would
• 1:06:37
  probably
• 1:06:37
  just
• 1:06:37
  me
• 1:06:38
  being
• 1:06:38
  the
• 1:06:38
  whole
• 1:06:38
  Lucky
• 1:06:39
  Charms
• 1:06:39
  line
• 1:06:39
  over
• 1:06:39
  and
• 1:06:40
  over
• 1:06:40
  or
• 1:06:40
  something.
• 1:06:40
  Yeah,
• 1:06:40
  I
• 1:06:41
  don't
• 1:06:41
  know.
• 1:06:41
  I
• 1:06:41
  don't
• 1:06:41
  know.
• 1:06:42
  Enjoy
• 1:06:43
  that.
• 1:06:43
  But
• 1:06:44
  anyway,
• 1:06:44
  that's
• 1:06:45
  coming
• 1:06:45
  up.
• 1:06:46
  Masters
• 1:06:47
  week.
• 1:06:47
  We'll
• 1:06:47
  have
• 1:06:47
  that
• 1:06:48
  out.
• 1:06:48
  Masters
• 1:06:48
  week.
• 1:06:49
  As
• 1:06:50
  always,
• 1:06:50
  thank
• 1:06:50
  you
• 1:06:50
  guys
• 1:06:51
  for
• 1:06:51
  joining
• 1:06:52
  and
• 1:06:52
  we
• 1:06:52
  will
• 1:06:53
  see
• 1:06:53
  you
• 1:06:53
  next
• 1:06:53
  time.
• 1:06:54
  All
• 1:06:54
  right,
• 1:06:54
  until
• 1:06:54
  then,
• 1:06:54
  thanks,
• 1:06:55
  guys.