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Traveling to Keyforge Vault Tours Who's In? · Archons Corner

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All right, but what's going on? Everybody? I am the one,
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the only the w oh okay. I e still a little under the weather.
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I'm still all stuff lee and snot Lee, and it's gross. I
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have my box of tissue next to me. And for those of you wondering
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where we went, we didn't really go anywhere. I'm just sick. I'm
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sick and tired of being sick and tired. And then I went on a
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family I went on a family vacation sick. Where'd you go? Went to
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the Dell, went to Wisconsin Dell. So for that we did, we
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did an episode. I didn't get it up because I was starting so y'all
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remember when we had like it was like eighty degrees and then I dropped fifty
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eight degrees like in the matter of four hours. Every other Tuesday around here.
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Well, yeah, I was gonna say that didn't happen here, but
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you gots, yeah, it happened here. So it was like, literally,
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like I went to I even brought a sweater with me that night because
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I was like, literally it was like seventy eight degrees outside. I'm not
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kidding you, drass score. This legitimately happened it was seventy eight degrees outside
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right, sun is shining. It's absolutely gorgeous. It's like, oh man,
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spring broke. Literally we dropped, so it was like fifty eight degrees
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and snowed all within four hours. These are real things that happen in Wisconsin
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to go from eighty to snowing in the matter of a handful of hours.
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So that means my sinuses felt like trash. They all dumped on me,
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and I just felt like garbage. So I made it through. We went
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to Wisconsin Dallas. We uh. We stayed at Mount Olympus, the indoor
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water park. The outside there's a couple outside things. Some goat karts were
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available. We had some fun on the goat karts, went to the indoor
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park, had some fun there. It was all good stuff. But I
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was still sick. And then I came right back into my job's inventory and
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I'm ill. It just didn't happen. So if you're listening to this episode,
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go back and listen to the last episode, because you probably missed that
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one too. Because I suck at my job. Well, we're gonna get
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By the time they listened to this, they probably have already listened to the
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one you're talking about. Maybe if not go back and listen to it again.
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It was a good episode if I remember correct, it was a pretty
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good episode. I don't remember what we went into, but it was a
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good episode. It was the second half of Geistoid, right, wasn't It?
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Probably was, I honestly don't remember. But this week we're talking Ope,
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we're gonna do more of a help from Future self style episode thirty minutes
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and we're gonna say we're gonna cut it off just as just as the going
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gets good, we'll see, Oh do you like sealed dress cor quick?
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Oh, that's gonna do it for us this week and help the future.
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But we do have op kind of news, not really new news, but
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store champs are going on sheep. We did a start champ at our locals.
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How is our store champs? Our store champ was fantastic if under attended,
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yep. So how we had what for a while? Okay, so
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let's let's preface this. Well, we're doing we one of the only shops
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that I know of. We're doing all three formats. We're doing an oar
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con An Alliance and a sealed all of them on Tuesday nights. So we're
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just instead of our weekly events, we're just charging a bunch of money and
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handing out a few prizes. Yay, a bunch of body a few prizes
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excitingly, and not even upon our request, our store did order two store
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championship kits. Now, I gotta say I've gotten a little looksie, right,
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I'm not thrilled with what's in the box, right, So basically I
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think the price for what's in the box is pretty good, Okay, I
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mean you get is it twelve decks in the box? Six six decks?
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Only really six six? You get six x three sets of keys, which
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are the same keys we've gotten many times before. So not overly excited there,
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but if you are the technically, they were only ever really released during
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the very first month of KeyForge, so I feel like they were so in
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abundance, they were fairly plent to full. But if you weren't around then
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there was a set that's sold on pay for seventy five dollars in January.
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So you would like to buy my old keys for seventy five dollars a crack,
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you could have mine for fifty instead forty five over here to forty five,
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I am so so many like the old Let's be honest. Okay,
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so the metal keys are super big. If you sell your metal keys,
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you're gonna pay me because you're using my metal keys. So what do you
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mean, yoh, those those nineteen keys you have, Yeah, you gave
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those to me. Yeah. So I'm just saying, if you sell you
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other keys, because you're replaced with those keys, they're all mine. So
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I used to be really big and the like, and that was I'm still
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really big. Like I like the keys, like, I like the different
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styles of keys. You know, I've got I've got the what was it?
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Is it the twenty nineteen Vault Tour keys? Was there? Twenty nineteen
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Prime Prime? Well, the small ones were for the Prime, but then
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they had the big ones. Yeah, they still have the big ones.
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I like those. I like I like the big metal keys. I even
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you know, I even have a set of the cardboard I'm not gonna lie
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to nobody. I only have the discs though I don't have all the houses.
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And then I forgot I even had a different I had another set.
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I got the big ones, I got the big nineteen ones, and I
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got the little nineteen ones. This is just it's again, it's an area
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where I feel like they could do so much more with. But if you
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don't have big metal keys, yeah they are cool, right, like there
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are there are definitely local folks that don't have them, right the guy the
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folks that go out to Vault tours and all that, right, they they've
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got up from them. Yeah, yeah, like the friends. But there
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are definitely. So my first store Champion Vet is tomorrow and they're well,
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I'm hoping a few of these folks come, but there's definitely some folks who
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I know don't have the cool metal keys who will be excited to win those.
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So as somebody is excited for it, and I'm happy for those people.
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Yeah, because I have I'm the I've got multiple copies of those.
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Yeah, I've got a bunch too, right, I've got those. I
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got the Vault keys I've got yeah, like the luxury place style ones.
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I've got uhurnes. I know, I have the wloppers too. I like
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the Wloppers. Yeah, yeah, I've got all sorts. So I've I'm
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down. I just have my twenty twenty Littles and that's it. Listen to
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this motherfucker. Everything else has been Well, that's right, I still have
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the original vault to her keys. I suppose they're in a box somewhere.
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But in addition to three sets of keys, so six xs three sets of
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keys, it's twenty four pictures of a tree. And let me tell you,
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I hate freaking trees. Man. I've heard me talk about before.
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All my friends are like, let's go hike. We can look at trees,
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and I'm like, okay, one tree, two trees, too many
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trees? You like camping and stuff? She you don't like trees? Three
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trees? Wait? Have we seen that tree before? Do you want to?
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Just like you like camp like asphalt in the middle of a parking lot?
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Like what do you fire food and beer in like a Walmart parking lot?
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That you don't want trees around you while you're while you're doing that.
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I like camping too, we come, we go camping quite often. But
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a tree is a tree is a tree. Like there's yeah, man,
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like I don't mind if there's trees. I just don't care. Like I'm
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not like, let's go to the trees. You know what was cool?
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We went out west and we saw some rocks. Rocks are better than trees,
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rocks over trees. Okay, we got twenty four pictures of trees,
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so you can wood your deck or whatever it is you do with them.
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Yeah, and they're okay, Like they're similar quality as the old train tracker
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keys, so they're nice enough piece of cardboard for what they are. They're
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fine, right, and it's everybody gets one, so it's it's okay,
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there's there's nothing, nothing great, there's nothing wrong. Fifty bucks gets you
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six premium print decks which say they're fifteen dollars a piece. Yeah, that's
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already more than fifty dollars value. And then there's three sets of keys that
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have some indeterminate value and then yeah, okay, change or the haunted breeze.
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Who cares? Right? They really feel like they could have done so
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much more with that. Ah yeah, but what's the point. I mean,
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it's like a chain dragger. Ultimately, ninety percent of them are going
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to end up in your box of decks and you're never gonna see it again.
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And it's fun. Yeah, I mean, they're fine, right.
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I think I do think it's weird that they didn't put like even it could
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have been small champs haunted. Okay, I haven't deeply looked at the things
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yet because I already lost my first one. We're having another one this week?
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Oh yeah, how about that, you'll get another one? Oh in
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all, the kit is fine, But I've already seen a few people say
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it and I feel it. Uh cobbing. We said, you know,
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one of the things we talked about in the previous years, like they don't
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aren't doing much and you know, like special printed decks are something, but
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now they might be taking that ride a little too far because that's what we're
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getting for store champs. And guess what at Vault Tours you get the same
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thing. There'll be a different special print, right, but it's the same.
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Well well, hold on, wellest, Well, they're definitely said they're
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reprinting, like they're printing your deck with special like icons stuff. That's the
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first place thing. Yeah, talking about their advertise, what are you gonna
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get? You're gonna get a pin, some displays of stuff. Here,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna a pin that says top eight and how much you want
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to bet it doesn't say I got top eight at Roseville. It's just gonna
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be like from last year, I'd have four top eight pins that all look
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the same or three or however many I got, and I wow, they
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say, I thought they did say the pins are gonna have locale on them,
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nor everybody gets a lowcal pin and then top gets a top four will
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get a pin, second place will get a pin, and first place will
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get a pin, right, and each of those will be But I'm saying,
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I bet you all the top eight pins. They'll look cool and all.
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But you know, like if you win two of them, you don't
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know which ones which, Well, that's fine. I'd rather have like a
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custom border deck that says like of the Roseville Vault or something like do you
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think Now that's the question. Are they gonna print special decks for each event
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or is this gonna be the same thing where here's you know, like we
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have ten vaults and each one gets they haven't actually totleast the numbers. Each
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one gets five boxes printed for it, and they already did that print run
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and they're just sitting in the closet. It's I hope it says the name
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of the vault. That would be really cool, Like how do you get
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yeah, make it more rare, more to it, because if it is
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basically the same thing as a store champ deck, but with the vaults so
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it's got a little more gold or shine or something on it. It is
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gonna become disappointing. Maybe I don't know. I I like the special treatment
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decks, and I think they they definitely have an opportunity here to to make
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it cool. But we'll say I think they're fine. I think I think
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they're a good addition. But when that's all you're getting, like especially if
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it's tight, like if you only get one, say for the event,
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and you want to keep it, and it's crappy, Because we all know
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custom name decks are often crappy. Store Championship decks are going to be crappy.
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All of the ones from the first the first special print decks from the
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first run of GC's were crappy. Every single one of them was a garbage
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deck. Of course, they came from AOA, so they had an extra
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chance of crappiness. But like a special printed crappy deck, is it like
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even the ones from the Grand Championships, where there's only like seven or eight
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of them in the world, don't actually trade for that much money a little
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bit like they do it's not a lot lately. These are gonna cama ones
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are worth nothing. Nobody wants them. Well, I bought one back in
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the day. That's not People told that these have all sorts of value.
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Yeah, there may be worth ten dollars right, Yeah, I mean I'm
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talking a meaningful amount of money, which isn't that important to me. So
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I'm pulling a little ewok here and representing the whole more than me. But
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it is going to get a little disappointing just to have. Like, ultimately,
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these decks are going to end up in my box, and then they're
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gonna end up in a box. I'm gonna ship them to somebody as a
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joke because I just don't care about them, even though they have a special
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print, because they're not going to be meaningful for play. Speaking of which,
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definitely quick Chow mentioned it is not the latest cast. What what you
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did? Sheep did? We do? We mention that here. I don't
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know what you're talking about. I don't believe so, but we can get
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into it. We don't got it. We don't got a lot for today,
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but we definitely talk about what Sheep did. Yeah, he definitely brought
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it up, so he definitely, and he definitely named you by name.
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So why why don't you go ahead and tell our listeners? What? What?
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What? What? How? This played out? Sheep? When you
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buy three decks from Sheep, what can you expect? Oh? Wow?
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He bought four decks? I'm sorry, what do you buy four decks for?
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Sheep? What can I expect? Four DT decks, three DT techs
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and an MM actually for not a very large amount of money, which is
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fine because they're DT decks and uh, it was a twenty some dollars total
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sale was shipping, and I chose to reinvest that money right in. I
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reinvested that into an important project for myself, which was dealing with my bulk
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collection. I was nearing nine hundred decks again, which is too many.
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So I took a ten by ten by twelve box or something at work and
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I put every deck I could in there, which happened to be two hundred
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and twenty. It was thirty one pounds of decks that ships for less than
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twenty five dollars. Wow. So I slapped quick draws name on it,
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and I should So you padded the four decks. They were very well detected.
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Other deck that's right. I didn't have any bubble wraps, so I
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said, two hundred other decks is the best protection I can provide these four
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five dollars DT decks. Yeah, and then this landed on his doorstep.
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But it landed on the doorstep. The ups guy ripped the box open.
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They ripped the opposite end from where the decks he wanted were. We had
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to dig through that whole box. I love it. I think it would
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have been greater if you would have sent a go pro with it and we
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could have looked on his face when he got it. He was like,
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son of them? What the four decks? Someday somebody will cause me enough
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before what I will ship them instead is they'll order like three decks, and
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what I'm going to do is open like a hundred decks and then shuffle all
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the cars together. Oh gosh, I get a nine count box and ship
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that baby to them. I promise you enjoy that puzzle. Oh man.
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The sales of the Sheep Store are just down. Not that decks are selling
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right now. I mean from four decks in the last three months down to
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zero decks in the next three months is fine. I can live with this.
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Because really, you just sold two hundred some odd decks, right,
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I did not sell ship. No, you know you know what you got
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it. I may sound like a clown, but I'd actually had all those
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decks under a single tag, right, Because every time I'd open a deck
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and it would go into this thing i'd call my bulkbox, I would just
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tag it and dex the key ford just bulk cox. So I was able
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to give him a tagged list of basically every deck that was in that box.
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Wow. So as much of a clown and jerk as I might seem
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to be, I actually just gave him a giant pile of joke with a
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list jokes on you until he comes back at you. In Master Vault things,
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none of them are scanned into this version of the Master Vault. They're
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all most of those are going to be previous to the How did that work?
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Did anyone really? Do we know how that works? When if it
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was previous to this Master Vault? Can they just scan him in? But
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they don't get it? First person to scan it goes in that You remember,
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there was that bunch of controversy when new Master Vault first came on,
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and there were a bunch of stolen decks where people were scanning pictures from the
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Internet and heading it to the wrong account. Oh yeah, I remember that,
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but I remember being I mean, I wasn't affected by it. So
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you can have my crappy eighty two AOA deck. I'll live. But I
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was just I was just wondering, like if it was unscanned, yeah,
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you get it. But no, no, no, no, no,
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no space dollars. What a sad day. No space dollars. So if
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we if you want an instant collection, buy four decks from Sheep, he
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will ship you two hundred. That instant collection was actually listed for sale on
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a for sale site and nobody expressed any interest. And that deck and there's
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like up to seventy eights in that but and That's where I'm kind of getting
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with special print decks. Even if I open a seventy eight or eighty special
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print deck and I play it twice after that, it just doesn't matter.
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It's not good enough to make the arc on list, is not bad enough
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to make the weird things. And maybe, by some awesome chance, it's
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adaptive worthy. Every day it's adaptive worthy, But then who cares if it's
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special break because you only play that junk online. I mean formats that people
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still like. What that's a format? And man it try as Dead Survival
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all the good formats and then adaptive. The only good format that you had
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mentioned right there was survive was three decks Survival. But even then I wouldn't
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want the way it sits right now. I would not want to play three
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decks Survival because I do not. I don't have one good deck. Now.
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I got to find two other ship decks to play along with my other
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crap. You need to step up your crappy deck collecting. I have presented
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the next Store Championship I think I'm running is going to be two deck sealed
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Survival. I don't mind two deck sealed survival. Even three survival is fine.
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Two if you want to get it done in a reasonable monotory. Well,
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not not for not for a not a store championship. Yeah, well
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that's what I'm saying. Store Championship twenty third Sanctum Gaming every scene, that's
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what I think we're running. Is it a Sunday, No, it's a
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it's a Saturday. I cannot attend. I'm sorry we put on a Saturday.
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Work got things to do. Yeah, because we're having a party at
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my house afterwards. Oh is that the port and milort party. Yeah,
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that's why I'm cool, because he's he's bringing Alert. I will bring milort
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on Tuesday night, and you will drink with us. I will not.
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You will. You can't make me too, It's horrible. I think that's
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what I gotta do. I think I need to talk to some of my
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Illinois friends and I need to get a bottle of Alert so that we can
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have it. They're not coming to a vault to her. You can have
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my bottle, okay, because I think we need to get mister Jascor into
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Milert. I've had Alert. Yeah, okay, never mind, I have
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I have uh, I actually have Milert here. I've got those little sample
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bottles. I'm sure it's just as bad by you as it is everywhere else.
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Well, I know, I brought these back from Chicago actually, because
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I got some little sample bottles. Like it's so bad they were just giving
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it away. Well we were at the distillery, like we or there.
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Well they're still that isn't just like the employees pissing in a bucket. I
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mean, they tell you it was the Chicago River. They just bottled it.
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They tell you it's distilled Chicago River. Actually, so it's still distilled.
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I actually fermented. You might find a needle or gun. They distill
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it just to take off the stuff that'll actually kill you. This will just
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give you the shivers, but it won't kill you. You might go blind
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in one eye, but you know that's about it. So all right,
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So what we were talking about store Championship storre Championship. So what do you
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get to play tomorrow? Draft? So tomorrow we have our sealed event.
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So what is your package for that? What's the package? Well, we're
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gonna do a three deck sealed. When everybody gets there, I'm gonna take
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a pulse check to see if folks want to do true sealed or blasphemic sealed.
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If you know, if there's folks there that are like, I really
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want to do you know, alliance, then then that's fine. We could
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do that. But I uh, I suspect well we'll have folks that all
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vote to do uh true sealed. So you know, back of the day,
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I was so okay with you know, the whole seal allions thing.
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I'm like, it's fine, it's I'm okay with it. I'm not like
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like it's it's yeah, it yeah. After playing it so many times,
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you're like, I don't want to do this. I want to pick one
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like well, like a full part of the key Fords where you just open
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it deck and play it. Well, it's just let's do some of that.
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It's the whole point of where I think you said it, where you're
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like, if this was an ex you know, if this was just a
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sealed event, it would do okay, but it's because sealed the lions,
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it's not gonna do much. And like it definitely feels that way, like
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it's it makes good decks even better, and then it makes your you're too
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junk that you've pulled even worse because like junk plus John, you know,
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like I said, ship plus ship still equals ship. But if you pulled
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something halfway decent and and a half and then an okay pod somewhere along the
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way, it was like, oh, my good deck just became better.
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Like it's like the rich get richer, and the and the bottom people just
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stay at the bottom. Let's go over and listen to Sloppy. They did
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it. They did the math it widens the field, widens the field house.
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So in average using sas, which isn't perfect, but it's a way
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to metricize decks, it widens the distribution of sas across decks, so it
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makes it more even, or makes it makes it less more likely that you'll
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have outliers, right, and that are junkier than the average importantly strong outliers.
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Right. Yeah, it's you know, like if that don't remember the
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numbers, but it's like something like it was sixty four or something if you
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just played single deck with an average spread of four or something, was like
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your single standard deviation, and then with alliance it went up to sixty eight,
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but it was also a six point standard deviation, right, So it
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yeah, that like theory that it would make a tight spike a tighter spike
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doesn't work out in the practice numbers they did, which I had said with
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just gut feeling, but nobody listens to me, which is okay, ah,
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it's fine. Like some people like it, some people like choice,
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they can have it. Yes, no, I'm not for it. We
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also have the same thing, which is we run ours on Tuesday. We
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have three deck, but one of our decks that you're getting in your three
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deck package is one of the store named decks, right they got they have
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twelve. So long as we don't get more than twelve players, we're okay,
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this is the one week we're gonna have thirteen. Yeah, well then
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I'll give up my deck because that's how that goes. So yeah, so
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there's actually I guess this is a good problem to have. So in my
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area, there's there's quite a few store championships, which means, uh,
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which is a little bit of a challenge because folks can't necessarily go to all
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all of them. So like, for example today, No, it's good
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for the game, it's just uh, there's so there's folks in Jersey two
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in the past have sometimes come to the events that I run, but they
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ran their event today, so I think there it's less likely that folks are
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gonna, you know, the following day, drive all the way down to
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to Westchester, Pennsylvania to play. Not a bunch of the same crowd that
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was at least three different vaults last year. They clearly show and they have
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some stupid KeyForge dedication. This is true. They could I mean I didn't.
28:03
I wasn't able to go up there today. I kind of wanted to,
28:07
but I had stuff going on, so we'll see, we'll see.
28:12
And then there's another one just an hour west of me that's playing on Tuesday.
28:21
And then uh uh downtown Philadelphia. They actually I actually didn't realize this
28:29
one place. It even really has a keyboard stuff going on, but they
28:33
scheduled at the same time as my event. I was like, come on,
28:36
dude, what the heck that my ARCon event, so that it is
28:42
nice this time. Yeah, With the the store championships and how small or
28:52
tight our current community is, we were able to schedule one, two,
28:56
three, four different stores or something and make sure we did schedule on top
29:00
of each other. I remember Bingle Bang Bang Matt store championships, like a
29:07
bunch of those were on top of each other, and it was like,
29:10
you've got to be kidding me, right, it was already had them at
29:14
the same time. Yep. Yeah, there's one, two, three,
29:18
four, five six stores within i'll say it two hour radius of me.
29:22
Fun story. I have one of each Ingle Bang Bang Matt. I have
29:29
given away most of those two. I gave away a lot of them because
29:33
I had a few extra. I think what was it was it first,
29:37
second, the top four or did they have a third and fourth place?
29:41
I don't remember. I had want to eat top four. I think there
29:45
were top eights on that too. No, there wasn't. That was just
29:48
Primes. Primes had the top eight, they had one Matt, and then
29:52
they had music for the winner. But yeah, and nobody wanted the Nizic
29:57
Matt. Everyone wanted the premiere. That is not true at all. Who
30:03
wanted thet I don't have it, even though I want them because people wanted
30:10
them. I still got stinking Grim Reaper Mat that the Nisic Matt is the
30:15
one of the few I don't have. Actually, I'm okay with that.
30:17
I like the Grim Reapermat way better than Nick Matt. Yeah. Well,
30:22
I still play with it to this day, still play with it to this
30:26
day. I don't see a lot of grim Repermats. Of course, I
30:29
don't see a lot of Whatever Matt you got in Rock is fine. It
30:33
doesn't really matter. It does matter. It always matters. Now I'm I'm
30:40
scrolling around the map here, and I'm just taking in what we have in
30:45
the United States here, taking in the locations of all these various store champs,
30:52
I should have set that up right, the map, yes, map,
30:55
yes, good, good job, we have somewhat up the start.
30:57
Yep, good. This is the This is a good thing. Nicely done,
31:02
sir. The But if you were to overlay the vaults on top of
31:08
this it overall, I think it makes a lot of sense. So the
31:15
North like that, and the chat here, so I don't know if I
31:19
did. I did take a look the chat. Yeah, it's already there,
31:26
so you could see. Hey, there's a whole clumping between DC and
31:37
i'll call it Boston, even though there aren't any in Boston, but Connecticut,
31:41
New York, New Jersey, three in Pennsylvania, one in Maryland.
31:47
So good clumping through there. So putting a vault in Baltimore makes a lot
31:51
of sense. Then north of that there's a bunch in uh, you know,
31:57
southern Canada and whatnot. So Rochester makes some sense in terms of Hey,
32:01
if you're going to do it in the US, those are all very
32:06
drivable to Rochester. And then you've got you can still you know, pull
32:08
stuff from folks from uh, you know, the East Coast as well,
32:15
So that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, the Midwest, you could
32:19
have done something in Midwest certainly, but you know, Minneapolis is obviously they're
32:22
going to do because that's where they are. But you could have even argued
32:27
like, hey, let's run one in Cleveland or something. I guess Indy
32:30
is the is the national so that makes a lot of sense. That's right
32:32
in the midst all these. Uh. Then on the West coast, Hey,
32:37
look there's there's a bunch near Seattle. Yeah, there's a bunch of
32:42
Seattle. That didn't work out obviously, although you know, I think the
32:45
numbers were low because that they so late they announced that one, but but
32:50
still nobody else to go to Seattle. It's flights were actually expensive. I
32:55
couldn't do it, but I was looking at flights and it was kind of
32:58
expensive this year. Flights always is expensive to Seattle or is that just me
33:01
being crazy, I don't know, but they're way cheaper to San Francisco.
33:07
Now you could have so in theory, you could have done something like San
33:09
Francisco area LA or San Diego in theory, but Las Vegas, Hey,
33:15
that draws from those areas. So if you put a big circle between San
33:20
Diego, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, and then to the
33:25
right, Denver and Colorado Springs. That gets your vault in Phoenix. Phoenix.
33:32
Yeah, well there's no I'm sorry, Nevada, Nevada, anything in
33:39
Nevada. Yeah, I mean Nevada's basically yeah, Las Vegas, Rena.
33:45
Right, there's there's a lot of empty space there. But uh so that
33:52
makes sense. Now Texas, all you've got is the vault in Houston,
33:58
or excuse me, the sort champs in Houston. So just purely looking at
34:04
this, putting putting a vault in Texas doesn't one hundred percent make sense.
34:08
I think this is the one that, uh, if you just look use
34:13
this information is pretty dope. I gotta say, this is a nice set
34:19
up here. I didn't realize that you could literally click on the little vault
34:22
thing and it takes well for most of them anyways, not all of them,
34:27
for the US, probably for the ones you could find like if they
34:30
had it in here, they take it like here's the game store, here's
34:34
what here's what they're charging. You know, that's kind of dope. I
34:37
just I'm looking at this map Dallas, which I know there's players, there's
34:43
nothing set Lake City, there's nothing. And then yeah, which is only
34:47
it only clues off to those of us who live in the Midwest. But
34:51
then Duluth, Minnesota as a storm championship, and that's like out there in
34:57
the middle of freaking nowhere or nothing, there is nothing. It's large.
35:02
The only reason I know about Duluth is because whenever you play like a train
35:07
board game, they always have a stop in Duluth, because I guess in
35:12
old times that's where all the coal comes in from the Yeah, yeah,
35:15
I guess, I mean, like, yes, it definitely. Duluth is
35:20
a fairly big city and superiors right there. Mm hmmm. So there there
35:25
is a fair population, but it is nowhere near the population density that there
35:30
is in when you're just looking and you scroll out on this map a little
35:35
bit and yeah, as you scroll out it yeah, sets the size of
35:38
towns and you're here at this Dallas, Kansas City, Alpa, Gurkey,
35:43
Phoenix, Salt Lake sized things, Orlando, Miami, Tampa, New Orleans.
35:52
Yeah, and none of those have anything that youth. And there's nothing
35:57
in Florida. So there was like there was some vocal folks, some of
36:00
whom are in our chat right now, ask you about, Hey, what
36:04
the heck why not. Why not the southeast right, Atlanta would be a
36:07
great spot if you look, not in Florida our championships. Well, so
36:15
in Ikey, it's okay to not have things in Florida. I agree.
36:22
There's a lot of people there, right, okay, So so so there's
36:25
a big opportunity. It doesn't mean we should be going there either. There's
36:29
a lot of old people in Florida. Let's let's let's ignore, you know,
36:34
all sorts of things. So so ignore all sorts of there's old people
36:38
in Florida. So let's look at my grandmother is down there right now,
36:42
exactly. That's where people go to die. All the people are allowed to
36:46
play key Forge. This is true. This is true. They haven't kicked
36:51
out yet. This is what I was just gonna say. This is why
36:52
we let dad play. So all right, but let's let's look here.
36:58
So we've got one alan up to We've got one in what town? Is
37:02
this even in South Carolina? Anderson? Really, so there's Anderson in South
37:14
Carolina, which is in South Carolina. You've got you've got a store and
37:17
rally, and then you've got one in Jacksonville, Jacksonville, North Carolina,
37:22
outside of Greville. So in theory, if you wanted to hit a central
37:25
point between these, if you just assume these are the hotspots, doing something
37:31
in something like Charlotte could make sense. Now there's no there's no store Champ
37:37
in Charlotte. I don't know if there's a Charlotte scene, but but somewhere
37:40
through that this west like this, you put one in Vegas because that covers
37:49
most of the West Coast, and Denver could easily get in Denver could easily
37:55
get to Nevada. Everything else, Like, you should have one in Philly
38:01
and Baltimore is close enough. I mean one in like Ohio, which I
38:07
guess Indiana you got Star Champs that's or Indiana you have run or whatever in
38:13
gen Con gen Con in Indiana. And then yeah, like it should all
38:16
be East coast stuff and it should be Chicago and not Minneapolis. But yeah,
38:22
they're gonna why not? Well, so, I mean what it really
38:28
comes down to is you need a store that will sit one hundred plus players
38:37
and is willing to play the game that they got to play to run the
38:42
vault to her because it's either costing the store something or they're making some sort
38:47
of agreement about sales and shares. I mean, I don't actually have this
38:52
agreement. I've never seen what the newest vault looks like. But it's not
39:00
free, right, Some it's costing them something, whether it's whether it is
39:05
just time and space. But you have to have a big enough venue and
39:08
you have to be willing to give it up for KeyForge for a three day
39:13
event, not a one day event, a three day event, and those
39:16
two things are not actually that easy to come by. Yeah, yeah,
39:23
right, Like I don't know that I have, Like, have I ever
39:30
been to the store that can house that many folks? Like I'm trying to
39:32
even think, right, Like, there used to be one in Chicago started
39:40
with a p they ran, they ran Dark moonfares for the wild Card game.
39:47
They were the come also the place that was doing those events. Mhm.
39:53
Their store was huge. Yeah yeah, I think, yeah, there's
39:59
there's definitely in the chat folks are mentioning, uh, Nashville in Tennessee is
40:05
a central spot, which which it could be. I don't know. That
40:08
feels like it might be far from like Rally. Tennessee is tough to fly
40:14
into, is it. I mean I have been, I have been there,
40:19
and it so I went to Nashville. I remember like the cost because
40:25
when I so when I worked for Auto chlor, I had to book my
40:28
own flights and every time we had to go to Nashville, to go to
40:37
Nashville twice and it's always there's you always basically you had no matter what,
40:44
almost you had to get a connecting flight. So typically what would happen is
40:50
you would fly from for me anyways, and I'm sure it's a little different.
40:52
It would be from Milwaukee to Chicago, then get it on another plane
40:57
from Chicago. And I think one one time I stopped in Charlotte and one
41:01
time I was in Georgia. It was in Atlanta, and then you went
41:07
to Nashville. That you can't go from Chicago to Nashville, it seems no.
41:14
I always had to either go to Well again, it was only the
41:16
twice, but I had a one time go to Charlotte and one time go
41:20
to Atlanta. Now the second time when I went there, I had to
41:23
go to Atlanta, and I was supposed to connect from Atlanta to Nashville,
41:28
but there was a change, so then I had to go from Atlanta to
41:30
North Carolina and then North Carolina and Tennessee. It was just a pain.
41:36
And I don't know if that's just has something to do with their airport,
41:38
but it was a pain. I mean, it's a popular travel it doesn't
41:45
matter. Travel sucks to Sonatch that and then there is some truth that the
41:50
bigger the airport you get, which is cheaper for travel, then generally the
41:54
venues outside of it are more expensive. Yeah, because everybody's looking for them
42:00
because they're like, oh the travels cheap, right, you get you get
42:07
busted one way or the other, right it Yeah, just how it is.
42:12
I don't know. I'm looking at rally to Nashville that is over eight
42:15
hour drive, so I don't know if that. I don't know if Nashville
42:21
is the best if you want to draw folks from from North Carolina, right,
42:25
if I put Jacksonville, North Carolina, it's gonna be even further.
42:30
Let's see here. I'm not sure. But also don't let I remember because
42:35
I had one of the guys he was from there, and he was like,
42:37
yeah, you can't be here after dark, and you can't be there
42:42
after dark. Well, every city every where. When we were in Philly
42:49
and x Ray ended up in West Philly, like somebody got arrested taste in
42:53
front of him. I was like, dude, why are you? It
42:55
was x Ray is number one. Would think x Ray, of all people,
43:00
has watched The Fresh Prince of bel Air, number two. X Ray
43:07
is a different breed of dumb dumb right, Like he's just like I don't
43:10
know how he finds himself. He's your gold standard American dumb dumb. Literally,
43:16
like that man finds himself in the weirdest situations that you could possibly find
43:23
yourself. If we ever leave this country, I'm bringing him because he makes
43:28
me look good. Yeah, do you think when you think American, it's
43:34
extra Like he's just his goofy ass face is just in the dictionary, Like
43:40
it's just like this again, the situation this man finds himself in. I
43:44
don't I don't even know how it's possible that he finds himself in all of
43:49
these situations. Like it's just I don't even understand. I don't even understand
43:53
how you could be so traditionally American in all the wrong ways. But like
44:02
that's not is a good guy we just like to we don't know is x
44:12
Ray five? Okay, so we're totally off topic. You never off at
44:17
a half an hour. Are we talking about something useful? No, let's
44:21
look at let's look at other we have this listening to help her future self.
44:30
Wait, we did this show. We said here and looked at h
44:31
Matt before and said these are the places that you should go because of population
44:36
centers. Like go back and listen like this is this is how about what
44:40
I mean? Like there's there's I I really don't know what talk about without
44:45
having the other guys, it makes us not want to do our Mars cards
44:47
because it'll fall a little flat without our master number generator and our and our
44:53
walk bot. So we didn't want to do that, you know, key
44:58
Ford News. There's not well time right and it's like we already ship talk
45:06
what we can ship talk? Guys, were ships they're okay, Yeah,
45:12
we're we're excited to have them. People are putting them on. There are
45:15
some attendance numbers. We have reserved the ship talking play style. Not being
45:22
here for it, yeah yeah, because it really doesn't matter who cares.
45:28
It. Actually, in some ways is awesome because now there's just you don't
45:32
have to run too well. You can run whatever you want because you're run
45:36
out whatever software you want. Well, even what they shipped out, the
45:39
cheat sheet that talks about how to run the tournament, it had it had
45:44
both. They had both Swiss and two loll listed, so they definitely you
45:50
can trying to sell the Dune popcorn bucket for seventy dollars. Nice if you
45:58
wanted a doing popcorn bucket, like from what they went to like a real
46:02
cinema. I got a popcorn bucket for twenty seven dollars that says Dune too.
46:07
Do not do you live under rocks? I mean he lives in Philadelphia.
46:14
Yeah, I live near trees, which she doesn't like. Have you
46:16
not like I saw your trees? Your trees are just fine, just fine.
46:22
Have you nothing that's true. I'm gonna guess you haven't seen the Dune
46:30
popcorn bucket. No, oh, but that's doing for this this week.
46:37
Definitely putting that on my lap. Yeah, and so there are other people
46:42
anyways, just not in the way you're thinking. Going. Time to start
46:47
championship. Have some fun. Let us know what decks you crack. I'm
46:52
interested to see. I do want I do want me a battle tested deck.
46:59
Yeah, I am down to own a few battle tested decks. I
47:04
can't guarantee that they're not going to end up in the shudder bin, almost
47:08
guaranteed they will, all right, Well, well they're gr decks though.
47:13
You had a good shot here of pulling some fire. Yeah, but people
47:16
will be extra pissed if we shred. Yeah, which just makes it more
47:22
fun to do it, right, So let's shred them. Z and I
47:27
did fail. We were supposed to shred vult vaults. Yeah, whatever those
47:32
junk decks were. We were supposed to tread those last year, and we
47:35
never did. No, we were supposed to. Well somebody, somebody that
47:39
don't body freaking not pointing any elbows here, but somebody got their tizzy in
47:45
a tizzy. I the world. I was pretty tizzl ting. Yep,
47:51
you are right. And we didn't even run shutter worlds. Somebody forgot the
47:57
prize. Don't put this on me. You left it at your house.
48:00
Oh I've never even seen it. What do you mean it's at your house
48:06
right now? Oh? Nice? Yeah, I handed it. I handed
48:10
it to you when I was like, I might have forgotten this that I
48:14
just gave it to you. But that's gonna do it for us this week.
48:16
Make sure you go at ten year events, make sure the stores.
48:20
No, we're still around. Not only that, we got a Vault tour
48:22
coming up. Yeah, cheap. Yet we are like three weeks away.
48:28
I want to say, let's see one. I got a pretty good price
48:30
to three four weeks away. We'll call it four weeks. We're a month
48:34
out boys from twenty twenty four Vault Tour yep. Four weeks Yeah, I
48:39
am, I am. I'm excited to go pay a bunch of money to
48:45
lose. Prices are still high and it's three hundred and thirty dollars to fly
48:50
Frontier to Vegas. Oh the Vegas ones. Oh I haven't Vegas, Vegas,
48:54
Vegas. I don't know what is. Vegas is stupid expensive right now
48:59
for that week? All right now, I gotta okay, all right.
49:04
I'm joy that you for joining us for our crazy, strange ramblings for this
49:10
week. I'll be doing my best to get both these episodes out. If
49:15
you haven't listened to the last one, or listen to the last one before
49:16
you listen to this one, or it's too late either, or it really
49:21
doesn't matter. We just ramble here. It's like who's line is anyway,
49:25
everything's made up with the points don't matter. Thanks for listening, happy forging
49:31
everyone make me understand the joint everything