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The Favorites - NFL Betting Recap Week 8 · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The Favorites. The podcast presented by BET three sixty five.
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  Speaker 1: We are part of the Volume Podcast Network. Live from
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  Speaker 1: our Tommy John Home studios. I am Chad Milman. We
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  Speaker 1: are sweating the end of this Bears game live along
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  Speaker 1: with you. The Bears on the one yard line, down
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  Speaker 1: by five. We got this game. It's one of our
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  Speaker 1: five picks. This is our Sunday Night episode. We're reviewing
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  Speaker 1: the fhaves, five picks we put into the contest. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna dissect why we left some games out. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: preview the early lines we already like for week nine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my cost my companion Mike
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  Speaker 1: and Padre might be ff professional better Simon hun there.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, so I'm in. Hello Chad. What a good day, bro, They.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, It's been a great day. It'll be even better
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  Speaker 1: as soon as the Bears score as long as they
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  Speaker 1: touch that. The fact they did not give the ball
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  Speaker 1: to an off lineman backfield for the first time all
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  Speaker 1: season makes me feel like they did that on purpose,
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  Speaker 1: just so they can have so little time left on
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  Speaker 1: the clock. The Bears take a one point lead, pending
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  Speaker 1: what I match? What's that?
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  Speaker 2: The damn we needed that.
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  Speaker 1: We needed that, we needed that. It's not over yet, obviously. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's still time left on the clock. But boy, but
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  Speaker 1: bears like, we're gonna get to it. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: to it. This has been a sweat of a game.
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  Speaker 1: And I freaking love this team. I love this team
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  Speaker 1: so much. I love their moxie on defense. They never
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  Speaker 1: ever quit. They're going for the two point conversion right now,
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  Speaker 1: there are twenty three seconds left in the game. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: nice shovel pass for the two point conversion. Oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my freaking goodness, Simon, I'm not gonna lie. This
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  Speaker 1: has been a glorious day. We're four and oh on
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  Speaker 1: the day we got the Cowboys left tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, five and a half. Chad, Jesus Christ, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe you just did that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe I just did that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, I will say, before we came on, you
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  Speaker 2: were dead inside for a second there. That offensive lineman
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  Speaker 2: killed Chad. People don't realize before we come on, we're
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  Speaker 2: on here for fifteen minutes. Chad almost curled up into
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  Speaker 2: a little ball in the corner there.
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  Speaker 1: Why not, I did I actually had to put all
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  Speaker 1: of you guys on mute because normally we're watching than
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  Speaker 1: sweating the end of these games, and like someone is
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  Speaker 1: always ahead and someone is always behind, and someone was talking,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I cannot listen to any of this
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  Speaker 1: fucking drivel. Right now, I'm putting everybody on mute. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to know what's happening. It was excruciating when
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  Speaker 1: that guy fumbled that ball. We're gonna get in it.
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you this. There were multiple times today
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  Speaker 1: when I was watching the Jacksonville Jaguars where I was
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  Speaker 1: feeling disrespected, ignored, as the kids like to say, as
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  Speaker 1: though you were not hearing me. Today. Specifically, I felt
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  Speaker 1: like that at halftime of the Jags game. I felt
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  Speaker 1: like that at around four PM of the Jags game,
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  Speaker 1: I felt that way againnered out of about four h
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  Speaker 1: We are still sweating this game. We got eighteen seconds
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  Speaker 1: left at second and ten. So as I keep this
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  Speaker 1: game on out of the corner of my vision, I
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  Speaker 1: will explain to people when you and I were making
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  Speaker 1: the final picks today. We originally made our picks on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: We had the Bears minus two and a half. By
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning, with the news that Jad and Daniel took
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  Speaker 1: play for Washington. The line was Bears plus a half point.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously we couldn't keep the Bears in as two and
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  Speaker 1: a half point favorites, but we also had the Lions
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  Speaker 1: at minus eleven and a half. On Thursday. I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. On
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  Speaker 1: Sunday morning, it was twelve and a half. I still
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  Speaker 1: loved it. You still liked it. So we had to decide.
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  Speaker 1: Jadan Daniels scrambling around, throwing across the field. Someone catches
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  Speaker 1: it for a first down and they got a time out.
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  Speaker 1: So now it's five seconds left. They got five seconds left.
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  Speaker 1: On Sunday morning, the Lions line was twelve and a half.
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  Speaker 1: We had to decide were we going to resubmit for
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  Speaker 1: the contest when we had to accept all new lines.
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  Speaker 1: So if we want to get the Bears plus a half,
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  Speaker 1: we got to also take the Lions minus twelve and
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  Speaker 1: a half. We had to decide if we wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go with the Lions as massive faves. We decided to
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  Speaker 1: take them out. Instead. We put in the Browns plus
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  Speaker 1: seven and a half, which we both loved. Then we
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  Speaker 1: had Cleveland Bears Jags Colts, Cowboys, all dogs which we
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  Speaker 1: don't like either. Simon said to me, which game would
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  Speaker 1: you take out? What did I say to you?
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  Speaker 2: Jags?
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  Speaker 1: I hated the Jags all week. Of all the dogs
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  Speaker 1: that we had, Yeah, the one we had been losing
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  Speaker 1: most often. It is the coaching mismatch, the QB mismatch,
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  Speaker 1: a team that doesn't have anything at an elite level
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  Speaker 1: anywhere in its units, like the Browns definitely do, the
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  Speaker 1: Colts definitely do. Like this was a bad matchup for us.
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  Speaker 1: We've been talking about it all week. But you loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Kerner loved it and convinced me. I hated it. I
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  Speaker 1: have not made a single bet on that game. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I said. Hold on last play of the game,
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  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels' is back. He's scrambling, The Bears are rushing,
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  Speaker 1: someone's holding a guy. He's still scrambling. What's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna throw.
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  Speaker 2: It comes down to one last play.
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  Speaker 1: Just throw it already, he's throwing it up.
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  Speaker 2: Here comes the hail Mary, with the game on the line.
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  Speaker 1: Does someone catch it? Oh my god, he made it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 3: You're a mush uh poor Chad, uh uh this I.
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  Speaker 1: How is this possible?
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  Speaker 3: Is that?
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  Speaker 2: Are they saying it's good? It's a catch?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? How the fuck did this just happen?
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  Speaker 2: You know why it happened. You've gambled long enough, you counted,
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  Speaker 2: you count your exit.
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  Speaker 1: You just slipped out. It just slipped out.
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  Speaker 2: I know as soon as you did it, though we
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  Speaker 2: knew what was going to happen. It's a cool game,
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  Speaker 2: my friend. So I want to start from the top
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  Speaker 2: again for our three and one week.
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  Speaker 1: We're now three and one. You laughed at me when
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  Speaker 1: I said I wanted I cannot believe this.
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  Speaker 2: I can't either. It hurts.
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  Speaker 1: How how did this happen? Well, they couldn't knock it down.
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  Speaker 1: It went right off his hands.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's brutal.
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  Speaker 1: That is that is excruciating. I got to turn that off.
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  Speaker 1: I can't watch that right now. I can't watch those anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Anyway, you said about the Jags and
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  Speaker 1: the Lions, you feel more strongly about the Jags. If
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  Speaker 1: it loses, I'll own it. It's great for the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I was just say. It's the classic
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  Speaker 2: thing of trusting the number. It doesn't always work out
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  Speaker 2: for me. But this week, trust the number on this game,
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  Speaker 2: trust the number on the Raiders game they come through.
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  Speaker 2: I know there they were one in sixteen coming to
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  Speaker 2: this year this week, but it's just I told you,
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  Speaker 2: we just had bad luck, bad bounces, and that's that's gambling.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's just part of the part of it. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't overreact to it. And you know, ideally we
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  Speaker 2: want to have favorites in, but you're tough to get
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  Speaker 2: on favorites like I liked Atlanta. You never got around
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  Speaker 2: on Atlanta, which I get. It's never fun taking these
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  Speaker 2: chalk favorites, so.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to try to toy was troyd had ninety
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  Speaker 1: of the tickets.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, and we both agree. We both liked it.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I think even the
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  Speaker 2: Chicago and I never would have taken this one out.
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  Speaker 2: I liked the number. I liked that Daniels was banged up.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think they'd be good offensively. The only one
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  Speaker 2: I really thought we would take out, honestly was the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 2: just because of them getting all the guys back from injury.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, once we got all those crazy stats
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  Speaker 2: by mccarthyoff Byes, this is actually not the bet of
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  Speaker 2: the matchup for them. We were kind of stuck there,
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  Speaker 2: so I agree. I think it sucks we didn't have
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  Speaker 2: Detroit in there because we loved it all week. We
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  Speaker 2: bet it all week, and that was, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: I felt what you felt. But the other way, like
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  Speaker 2: they had I think it was forty one to ten
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  Speaker 2: and Golf had like twenty eight yards passing.
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  Speaker 1: Passing in the whole game, right, But Flowers.
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  Speaker 2: Where it was like that was a no brainer that
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  Speaker 2: you talked about all week that I also liked, and
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  Speaker 2: it was just like we we've been messing up taking
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  Speaker 2: those ones out. It's like, how do we not leave
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  Speaker 2: that one in? So luckily, Yeah, you're right, got lucky.
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  Speaker 2: Jack came down covered the number that exactly what I
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  Speaker 2: thought was gonna happen in that game happen, honestly, Like
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  Speaker 2: it came down to the final couple of possessions with
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars, and you talked about it like this is
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  Speaker 2: life betting bad teams. The Jaguars made me pull my
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  Speaker 2: hair out like five times in that game. They're just brutal.
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  Speaker 2: Between the penalties and the dumb plays by Trevor Lawrence,
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  Speaker 2: all of it. But they find their way to these numbers.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we always talk about all these key numbers.
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  Speaker 2: It landed right on three. We got the number three
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  Speaker 2: and a half. It was It was a fun bet
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  Speaker 2: when you bet those type of games that lands right
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  Speaker 2: on the number.
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  Speaker 1: The public did finally come back down to earth a
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  Speaker 1: little bit today. Yeah, the Jacks covered against the public favorite,
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  Speaker 1: The Colts covered against a public favorite, the Cards one
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  Speaker 1: against a public favorite, the Pats and the Browns one
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  Speaker 1: outright against very big public favorites. Feels like until Jaden
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  Speaker 1: Daniels just hit that miracle pass, all was right with
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  Speaker 1: the world again. The Jags are just a bad team,
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  Speaker 1: they really are. And Trevor Lawrence he's just not a
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  Speaker 1: very good quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Like he's consistent. I'd say that there.
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  Speaker 1: Was a play third and eight early in the game.
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  Speaker 1: His guy is supposed to run an out. He throws
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  Speaker 1: it to the middle of the field, and then he's
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  Speaker 1: yelling at the guy for not running it out, But like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you yelling? Why are you throwing it to
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  Speaker 1: the middle of the field though, Yeah, like throw it
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  Speaker 1: to where you want the guy to be. And then
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  Speaker 1: on the very next drive he throws a pick from
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  Speaker 1: deep in his own territory. And this JAG's team, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, this is this is the idea. This is
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  Speaker 1: like the identity of this team. Bad quarterbacking, bad coaching.
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  Speaker 1: They got the Pack fourth and five for a long
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  Speaker 1: field goal. They touched the ball against the center before
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  Speaker 1: they snapped the ball. The Pack get a first down,
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  Speaker 1: like it is just an undisciplined team. At four PM,
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  Speaker 1: the Lions were up fifty two to fourteen. The Jags
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  Speaker 1: are down seven with the ball. I was feeling very unheard, simon.
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  Speaker 1: And at four o nine, the Jags gave up a
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  Speaker 1: fifty yard fifty one yard pass to the Packers. The
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  Speaker 1: Packers got the ball at the Jags fifteen. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna score a touchdown here. At that point,
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  Speaker 1: I was very very upset because the Lions game was
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  Speaker 1: over fifty to fourteen. In the edit, all worked out.
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  Speaker 1: This one felt more lucky than a good handicap. It
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  Speaker 1: felt like we got lucky playing the number.
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  Speaker 2: You could literally say that every week about every game.
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  Speaker 1: Did you heat It's like a second.
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  Speaker 2: No, It's that's just how it is. Every week. Brother,
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  Speaker 2: You need I talk about all the time. We need luck.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I can only do so much work at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day. You need things to balance
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  Speaker 2: our way. Like, did we get lucky in that game
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  Speaker 2: that when Jordan Love went out, they started playing better
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  Speaker 2: with their backup quarterback. All of a sudden, Green Bay
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  Speaker 2: found my identity when there's running the ball down the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars throat and it was like, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: That's when I first got nervous. I was like, can't
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  Speaker 2: account for this. This theres a wrench to the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: But again, it's just I've done it long enough, brother,
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  Speaker 2: you just got to trust the numbers. It's it's always
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  Speaker 2: going to come back around. We've seen it all, We've
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  Speaker 2: been around it all. Yeah, that was even that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: we get we want to get into the Colts game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, let's talk about the Colts because.
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  Speaker 2: Because that was just the same exact thing, right, So that.
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  Speaker 1: That was like my side that one can we can
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  Speaker 1: either say that was a really good handicap or we
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  Speaker 1: got totally lucky, because.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that you could say that for every game.
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  Speaker 1: Right, they played a near perfect first half. They were
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  Speaker 1: tied ten to ten somehow with the Colts backed up
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  Speaker 1: deep in their own territory less than a minute left.
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  Speaker 1: I'm third and three. Shane Steichen, who we love, we
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  Speaker 1: love because he makes the right call and he's a
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  Speaker 1: good play caller, decides to have Anthony Richardson throw it.
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  Speaker 1: Of course it's picked. Of course the Texan score. Of
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  Speaker 1: course they go up seventeen. What the freak Shane Steiken?
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  Speaker 1: Like that, You've got Jonathan Taylor and you've got the
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  Speaker 1: best run blocking unit in the league, and you are
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  Speaker 1: running all over them. You're going into half ten ten
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  Speaker 1: as a six point underdog. Why are you throwing the
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  Speaker 1: ball deep in your own territory?
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  Speaker 2: And that? I mean, I don't know, but you I
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  Speaker 2: thought we were dead after that? Yeah, like that, like
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  Speaker 2: you're going to halftime now and your quarterback at that
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  Speaker 2: point I think was again Evan had an amazing tweet
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  Speaker 2: about it. I think there he was one for fifteen
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  Speaker 2: passing or something insane, and you know that was just
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  Speaker 2: a classics two of fifteen. That was kind of thing
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  Speaker 2: I always like, all right, this is where I can't
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  Speaker 2: just play the numbers in these spots like there's got
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  Speaker 2: you were right about that. I got to look more
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  Speaker 2: into it. And then of course it comes down to
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  Speaker 2: lands right on three. This type of game that you
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  Speaker 2: just bet it that way because Houston did have it
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  Speaker 2: is different without Nico Collins, something we handicapped and you
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  Speaker 2: can run the ball, which we talked about. Jonathan Taylor
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  Speaker 2: ran it down their throats. So Anthony Richardson is just
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  Speaker 2: a wild card. But this Colts team covers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're one of the best covering teams of football this season.
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  Speaker 2: On the flip side, Houston is terrible this year against
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  Speaker 2: the spread. So it's a classic thing of just trusting
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  Speaker 2: the number and the public overreacting to Houston being one
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  Speaker 2: of the best teams in football. They're really good, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't think they're one of the best teams in football,
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  Speaker 2: and that's why we played that number. It's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: if they're a juggernaut like Detroit, they roll that team there,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's the type of game you rolling, right if
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  Speaker 2: you're a really good team, and the Houston has just
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  Speaker 2: not been that team because they've been unhealthy. They're just
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  Speaker 2: losing key guys. I mean, Digs went down as well. Ye,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that was a great bet though, Like I
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  Speaker 2: really thought, then we're gonna win it. Especially in that
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  Speaker 2: defender scooped that bullup and took it all the way
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  Speaker 2: for a touchdown. It was like, there we go, there's
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  Speaker 2: that upset we thought we were gonna get today. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately we need Richard to make a drive and he
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  Speaker 2: just couldn't do it, and then got didn't go to
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  Speaker 2: overtime because I knew for a fact we were gonna
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  Speaker 2: lose if that went to overtime. So yeah, luckily it
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  Speaker 2: just ended on the three.
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  Speaker 1: The Colts had one hundred and sixty five yards rushing.
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  Speaker 1: They averaged six point three yards per carry. Yeah, Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor rushed for more than one hundred yards in his
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  Speaker 1: first game back. That's how they got back into it
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  Speaker 1: in the second half, and I'm one of the most
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  Speaker 1: dominant drives. It ended because Anthony Richardson muffed a handoff
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  Speaker 1: and then fumbled the ball and it went so far
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  Speaker 1: back they were out of field goal range. Like the
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  Speaker 1: more the ball is in his hands, the less of
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  Speaker 1: a chance they have. I was like that fumble that
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  Speaker 1: they had between c. J. Stroud and Joe Mixon, which
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  Speaker 1: was around two minutes left, the Colts recover that. If
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  Speaker 1: they don't recover that, the Texans kick a field goal.
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  Speaker 1: We don't cover that game because it's a six point
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  Speaker 1: number and the number for us in the contest was
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  Speaker 1: four and a half. We would have won our bets
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  Speaker 1: because we bet the Colts at six and a half,
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  Speaker 1: but the Colts would not have gotten down the field,
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  Speaker 1: and if they did, they were gonna have to go
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: for a touchdown. There's no way they're scoring a touchdown,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: so we would have lost that. And I guess, I
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: guess if we believe this was a great handicap, which
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I do in my heart believe it, I guess we
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: have to believe the Jags was a great.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Handicap or I don't believe. I know, or the.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Games you're just finally playing out as they're supposed to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: play out.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It's just you play the numbers. Brother, and you not
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: that you're overthinking stuff a little bit, but you are.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: You're in your own head. You're just some of your
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: reads are very questionable. That's why I made funny about
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: your Bengals, because you were all over the Colts. That
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: was a good read. Play that number. You're all over
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: the Browns, that was a good read. Play that number. Instead,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you're playing a coin flip game like the Bengals. You
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: love that game, which never made sense all week. So
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: it's like you're just you're making the right reads, but
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: you're also in your head a little bit where you're
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: doing out of characteristic Like we on this show, we
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: never bet the Bengals in that spot, Like that's just
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: that number was such a stinky number. So I'm leaving
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: on a couple of things where it's like we're dodging
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: some bullets. But there's also some types some games that
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: were owed. Right. We've had just had bad luck early
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: in the year with a lot of stuff, and today
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the luck obviously not with the Chicago game, but every
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: other game the luck a lot of things bounced start away.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: So that's that's just how it is. It all comes
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: back around eventually.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that Bears game. So one more game,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the Browns Ravens. This one we did. Now like we
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: love the Browns all week. We liked their coaching, We
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like Jamis more than DeShawn, We liked the fact they
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: have a dominant defense. We liked it. The Ravens did
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: what the Ravens do, which is give up a ton
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of points in the second half. They gave up twenty
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: three points in the second half. Like Ross Talker, who
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: was one of our buddies, was talking about how all
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: season the Ravens defensive efficient inefficiencies and deficiencies show up
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: on film. For the second half this year, they don't
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They're confused too often at the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: snap of the ball. And then the Ravens won. I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: didn't expect them to win.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: What I really expect Browns.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect the Browns to win. I expected him
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to cover. What I really expected was once the Ravens
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: took the lead, with Jamis to throw a pick six
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and us to end up end up not even covering
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the game. That's kind of what I was expecting.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was a great game. And all of
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a sudden he had that sack, strip sack. They go
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: down and score a touchdown, Lamar does and it's like
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: that the first time. Oh no, yeah, it's ten to six. Now,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: hopefully this doesn't turn the tide of this game. And
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: it didn't. Winston came out and just kept throwing it downfield,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Like I just it felt so good to have him
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: on the right day because it's when it's going well
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and he's locked in and it is beautiful, but it
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: is a crazy experience relying on him, especially in that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: game where we needed him to have that game. Right.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: As good as the Browns defense was, they didn't win
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: that game, right. It was the offense that was able
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: to show up. And it was the first time all
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: season they scored more than twenty points. So yeah, it's
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: you know, we not that we all knew this was
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: this was going to happen, but we all knew that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that number didn't reflect this team. It really reflected the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Sean Watson, how bad he was for the Browns, and
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the books they over adjusted to that, like they didn't
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: realize maybe they did, who knows, the public didn't though, Right,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: that was one of the more bet teams this week
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: where the Ravens everyone bet them, and we knew there
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: was gonna be some big upset today we got too, right.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: The Patriots Jets was a huge upset and this game
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: was also a huge upset.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we bet the Browns. That was when
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: we were sort of leaning towards all week.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just tough because the line moved so much, right,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I mean I bet at ten and a half bet
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: at again and nine and a half, but again the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: eight and a half. Now we're playing in contest of
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: seven and a half. And I was, just, like you
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: just said, we saw how the math could work out
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that this was gonna land on seven or eight, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: it didn't. They just they rolled them. Like you said,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that touchdown at the end by Jamis was so incredibly clutch.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that was amazing the way we played the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: end of that game. It'll be really interesting to see
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: what we want to do with the Browns next week. Yeah,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you know, like we're gonna look at that number. In
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: a second, let's very quickly, very quickly talk about this
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Bears game. Wow, Like their defense until the last play
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: of the game, they were brilliant. Yeah, kept this team
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: in the game the whole freaking time. And the fact that, like, look,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the Bears offensive play calling was dreadful. If not for
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift and if not for Kleb Williams's ability to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: rush and make three or four plays, they're not even
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: close to being in that game. And we don't lose
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: a game in a heartbreaking fashion. The way that we
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: just did that was I can't believe we're still in
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the air. Honestly, I know I.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Feel bad making this show because I'd been there where
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: it's like the last thing you want to do right
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: now is recap there, So I guess I'll be the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: one to do it. But my view of this game
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: was we knew, or I should say I knew this
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: was gonna be a low spring game. I knew it
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: was me tight. But I did think the Bears had
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: a big advantage offensively compare to this Washington defense. And
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't give enough credit to Washington defense. They're not
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I keep thinking they're much worse than they really are.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: They're not that bad, right, They're a well coached team.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: They really knew how to attack Caleb Williams early on
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: in that game. And you know, we talked of the
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: time about these offenses being in a rhythm. The Bears
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: look like a team that of bye week and just
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: could not get their rhythm. It took them what three quarters.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Also, they were playing like their left tackle went out
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and as soon as he went out, Yeah, Kavid Williams
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: was basically running for his life the entire game.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: He was, but he literally had thirty yards passing midway
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: through the third quarter. So It's like I do want
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to give him excuse for the same time, he also
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: played bad, and we kept saying that we were in
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: it because of what I thought, which was a ton
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: of regression was coming for that Washington offense. We knew
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the Bears defense was by the best defense they played
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: all season, And you know, did I think it was
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be in the form of them kicking whatever that
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: was four field goals? No, but I knew that there
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: was gonna be a lot of regression just offensively. That
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: should Jayden Daniels playing, he did play, we could have
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: take We could have taken them out when we knew
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: he was going to play, and I didn't want to
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: do it because it was just like, I still think
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: this is a good spot for this Bears team. It
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: was a good read and what are you gonna do
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: a Hello, Mary pass. I've won a bunch of bets
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: off them, I've lost bets off him. That's just part
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: of the game for you. It's the double kick in
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the gut because it's your favorite team, and that's uh,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: you know it is. Chad knows if he doesn't make
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the playoffs by one game, there's no other game. Now
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year. You circle this is the game.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what happens in any of these other games.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: It's like everyone was in front of the ball, they
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: batted it up in the air, and it bounced to
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the guy in the back of the end zone for
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a touchdown at the end of the game. And it's
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a brutal loalsk, you just said the Bears defense played great.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: They played great. They didn't give up a single touchdown
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: until there was zeros on the clock. Like that's just
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: a brutal way to lose a game that you dominated
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the entire game. But it's the game that it hurts.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: We lost money on it, but I'm not going to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: react to it. I still keep the same grade I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: have on the Bears, which is a higher grade than
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: this Washington team. And this Washington team is like in
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the prime position now that even if they don't win
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: this division, feels like they're gonna be a wildcard team.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Like they're just really fun, exciting team. And even when
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Daniels is banged up, he still was making big play,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: especially running the ball. He's like he's just a fearless
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: kid right now. So yeah, both sides, the Bears I'm
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: not concerned, and I'll Washington not concerned. And the Bears,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: this is a turning point for them. Their season from
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: this point forward just gets insanely tough. So we'll see
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: what kind of you know, leadership Kayleb william has and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: the rest of the team does if this could tank
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: their season or they can just move on and be
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a veteran team and get past this. But this is
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a loss that the wrong team, This could haunt you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the season.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It was so terrible. I don't think we've ever had
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the experience where we're watching one of our favorite teams
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in real time while also seeing them lose on a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: last second play, while also having them in the contest.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: No, definitely not that combination. No, it's the worst one ever,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I would say. And like again, I've lost, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: six figures and had to come on this fucking show
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and talk nonsense. I feel like you're feeling what I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: feel when I have to do that, where it's just
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna remember anything on their show, what we
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: talked about or anything. This is just just throw this
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: whole night away.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And as you can tell, I'm hacking up along
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and have been getting worse as the day has gone on.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: But this two shell pass, we're going to rally. By Tuesday,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: we're gonna come back. We're gonna go over all of
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: our games. We're gonna end this week with a winning
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: week no matter what happens, because we're now three and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: one on the day, we still have Dallas plus five
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and a half. We left Detroit on the table. We
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: never got to Arizona. I feel like we let ourselves
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: get bullied into not taking people good because everyone loved Miami.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I'm glad to take Miami though. Thank god, I just
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: held my position because, like you said, I already bet Arizona.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: It was just like, all right, I just won't bet
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: this anymore. It's if everyone loves Miami here and they're
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: looking smart, that's another game. People are looking pretty damn
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: smart for three quarters, yep. But we just keep seeing
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: there's some of these teams just can't play four quarters.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And that's that's Miami this year, right. You said it before.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: They didn't deserve that respect. They were getting way too
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: much respect. So you nailed that one. It's just a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Miami team that's not last year's Miami team. Where if
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: they were at home, they would have rolled that Arizona team.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: They would have put up thirty five forty points on
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that Arizona team. And today we saw the difference. They're
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: just inconsistent offensively and defensively. They have no personality.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: All right, let's start looking at the week nine. Lines
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: two or three stood out to me immediately.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: One of them, number one should be the easiest one
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: for you. Thursday night. Did you see Thursday Night's line? No,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: hold on, take a gander Thursday night. Some of the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: fishiest lines I've ever seen. I'm gonna walk into it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Texans Jets, Yeah, I can barely see. I feel like
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I've just.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Houston's minus one right now against the Jets on the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: road in New York. So Vegas is saying that Houston
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: they're not home or on the road. Houston's on the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: road at New York.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: You know what they're saying is Houston at home would
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: basically be like almost a touchdown favorite.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I can't believe this line though, Like this is old.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Simon would have just hot right on this Jets team.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Trust the books here, but I'll take the chalk earlier
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: on Houston. I mean that Jets teams in total disarray.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: They're terrible.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who are they to be under three points to
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: a playoff contending team in Houston. I don't care if
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: it's a short week and they just had a tough
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: divisional game. This is this is a bizarre number by
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the sports books to hang and like their early money
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: is coming in on the Jets, like the professionals are
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: coming on the Jets. I don't get it. So I'll
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: take Houston minus one off.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: The bat, all right, the game I was looking at, Yes, sir,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: we just talked about Miami. We talked about Buffalo. Buffalo
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: is less than a touchdown favorite at home against Miami,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: grab it, yeah, ta on the road against the good team.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: We just saw he could barely finish the game, like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: not health wise, but they could not close out the
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals at home. To on the road
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: against good teams in this spot, that's a smash spot
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: for the Bills.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And we broke down the Bills perfectly. We said this
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: game would pretty much tell us exactly what the Bills
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: are and what the Seahawks are. The Bills only beat
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: up on bad teams this year. Guess who was a
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: bad team? The Seahawks. Guess who's also a bad team
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: in Miami. So the Bills are a really good team
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: right now. They're that second tier in the AFC of
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: like a team that could they go on a Super
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Bowl run if things break their way. Yeah, they have
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: arguably one of the best players in all football now
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: and Josh Allen, like, they have the team there where
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: it's it's all there. But at the same time, we
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: know their weaknesses, right They're just they don't have a
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: guy like offensively it is all on Josh Allen, so
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: that makes me nervous about them on third downs and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: defensively there are ways to attack this team. So right now,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: this Bills team, I think we kind of got doubted
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: where It's like, if they're playing a bad team like
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: this and we're getting under a touchdown, why not take
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: this number. It's only going to go up, right, I
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: just can't see the professionals coming out of Miami here.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: It's going to go up. Raiders Bengals. Bengals were a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: touchdown and a half favorite, which felt odd to me. Again,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: apologize that felt very strange to me. The Bengal now
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: having been blown out at home, the Raiders are scrappy,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: they keep covering. I know it's a game we don't
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: like to bet, it's a team you don't like to bet.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: The Bengals just aren't very good right now, and the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Raiders keep themselves in almost every.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Game, and the Raiders are up to eight and a half.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: So interesting. Yeah, it's it's a key number. I'll take
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the Raiders. We were right like this being one of
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: our five unlikely because I really like the Raiders today
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and I felt like I got away with one here.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, But again, that's trusting the number. It's it's all about,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: like we talk all the time, it's we've seen it
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: enough where we've seen it laying on seven and ten
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: enough where it's like that's the only reason that we
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: didn't I didn't really want to give it out was
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: because okay, we already been at ten ten and a
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: half now it's down to what's seven and a half
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: by kickoff? Its just that was a number that I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: was never going to have us put in a contest. But
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about this Bengals team. Though they
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: are something's wrong with them. Something is definitely missing. And
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: it's not just the defense, Like I Remember we were
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: blaming the defense because they were so bad with this
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Bengals team, But it's offensive too, right, Like, just.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Well, without T Higgins there, they're just a different team.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: We sag with that. I agree.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: When he played, they had more weapons, they had opportunities
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: outside of Jamar Chase, and they could convert. Without T Higgins,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: they can't convert.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It's true. But like a lot of their not I'm
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: not here just shit the Cincinnati Bengals, But like their
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: wins have been fluky, like that Giants game, they scored
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: that rushing touchdof Joe Brow. They didn't get another touchdown
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: until there was like five minutes left in that game
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: against that terrible Giants team. The Browns, if they didn't
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: have that kick return, they probably were going to lose
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: that game or at least only win by a field goal,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: right Like they they just to me they had a
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: lot of things to go right for them against bad
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: teams that kind of helped them have a better record
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: than they should have. Did I think they're gonna have
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: blown out a role today. No, but you're right. Once
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: T Higgins was out, a little bit of death sentence
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: for them. That's such a huge weapon to their offense.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Like you said, So I'll take the Raiders because it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: just the Bengals out there there deserve this respect and
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: they haven't get to win a home game this season,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: so they've they've been absolutely terrible. So I'm with you
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: on that. So that's a way too big of a number.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I get we get it, though the Raiders are horrible, Minshew.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It is insane betting on this guy like that, Fumbly.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're watching that game. It's just
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the whole Minshew experience. It's a it's a roller coaster.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Who are you looking at?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Like, just games that jump out to me that I
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: know you're not gonna win a bet right now because
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it's just so gross. But the Giants are plus three
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: and a half against the Commanders. I get it, they're dead,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: but they Daniel Jones only plays good against one team
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: in his career, it's the Commanders. So it's like, unfortunately,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I do have to bet this. No one needs a
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: rush to the book. I'm betting there right now just
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: in case the professionals do come in, maybe the public
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: will come in. This will keep going up because it
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: was I mean, they're all cash and check. They all
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: won big today, all want Washington. That was a really
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: public side. So we'll see if they roll that money
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: over when we get a plus four. But I'll take
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: that early number right now. Maybe I'm just too close
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: to it. I love this Rams team so much. That
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: was my biggest bet this week. I was all in
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: on them. They got it, came through. They're plus one
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and a half right now at Seattle Seahawks. How do
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: we not drink on that?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was weird to me. I thought they played great.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Nothing about it was fluky. They I'm talking about the Rams.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I mean, that was Stafford's best game
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: of the year.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: That was Stafford's best game. He had his weapons. Kyrine
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Williams continues to be amazing. That defense is getting better
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and better. They play with a lot of energy, like
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: they really rushed the passer. We saw Seattle this week.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: They were terrible against a good Bills team in bad weather,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: but they did not adjust. It feels like that's probably
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: the right side to me. I'm not disagreeing.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Cool and then this is an amazing trend that I mean,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: everyone's seen it online. Evans talked about it too, so basically,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: teams that face the Lions Chad have yet to cover
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a game this season, and it makes sense, right This
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions team is incredibly physical. They wear these teams out.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: This this week was the Titans. Titans are minus three
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: at home against this Patriots team. After that Patriots team
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: had a huge win. If it's Drake may or Bersett,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I feel comfortable taking that plus three. Aren't they playing
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: much better than this Titans team? The Patriots? You agree,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: you're terrible. Titans are terrible across the board. I mean
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: they I cannot believe it when they I'm not gonna
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: lie to you. When they got that early lead, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: was like, you know what, maybe this they're gonna stay
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: in this game with this Lions team. And then their
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: special teams took the field, and you go, you know what,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: They're not just bad offensively defensive, they might have the
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: worst special teams in football as well. So across the board,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: they're terrible. Who are they to be catching minus three
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: against anybody? So I like that early grab of Patriots
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: plus three.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I was watching the Titans, and then I watched a
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: little bit of the Broncos and the Panthers, and I
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: thought to myself, if you're Brian Callahan, if you're Dave Canalis,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it's Wednesday night, you're watching film for the ninety sixth
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: straight hour. How can you possibly find anything that you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: think gives your team an advantage against anybody else? They
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: are completely overmatched in every area of the field. It's amazing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just can't imagine being the GM of that
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: team where it's you got rid of Rabel, you got
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: rid of aj Brown, you got rid of Derrick Henry,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: like you're going through this whole new rebuild these last
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: three four.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: They got rid of it. They got rid of the GM.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean though, Like everything just these
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: last three four years, it's crazy. I think they went
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: from being that one seat to where they're at now,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: where they're just they're at the bottom. Like they tried
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to spend money this offseason on their defense. Everywhere they
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: spent money, none of that fixed any of their issues.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: All right, who else you got? Because I got one
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: more game to discuss?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: All right, This isn't a bet for me. It's just
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: an interesting line. Obviously. You know, you talked about that
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Jaguars team being horrible. Eagles are minus seven against the
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Jaguars at home. It feels a bit rich to me.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like that number is gonna come down, so
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I'll take the plus seven, but I don't feel great
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: about it. I don't know how much I want to investigating
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: this Jaguars team another week. Like Chad said, I felt
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: like I got not that I got away with one today,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: but it does feel that way where I needed Trevor
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Lawrence a drive to field get me a touchdown, and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: thank god he did.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: What do we think of the Green Bay Packers as
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: home underdogs against the Detroit Lions. The line's been going up.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It was at three and a half, now it's four.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Give me your lean there.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: We talked last week. I was all in on this
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: was going to be an auto play in the Packers
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: like this right. That's the issue right now is there's
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: no Jordan of Love. So I'm in no rush. You
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: can grab Detroit now if you want that side. But
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I was always going to no matter what beyond Green
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Bay in this spot. This is just I've been doing
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: this long enough to know that teams like Detroit, who
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: have been incredibly hot, it's always different when you play
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: your own division, doesn't matter if you can beat up
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: in everyone you want, even if you're beating up on
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the best teams on football, when you come back and
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: play the crap or your own division, you struggle. Unfortunately
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: for them, Green Bay is no crap. This is a
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: really good team, a really well coached team that even
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: if Jordan Love is out, all right, I mean I'll adjust,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: maybe won't, won't be one of my most confident bents,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but I'm still gonna like them and the number I
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: just think as a whole team and the coaching is too.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Green Bay is just gonna be undervalue here to Districtrade team.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: That's just we talked about this is this is peak.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: This is a peak as you can get the season
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: on any team, this Detroite team in this in this matchup.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: So again, I we love Detroit here. We've been riding
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Detroit now for four or five weeks. They've been so
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: good to us. That's like, that's like the part of
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: me that's eating at it where it's like you can't
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: just betray him here. We have to. This is such
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a spot to fade them, so I'll be able to
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: break down this game more and figure out what's going on.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Once I know what the what the news is the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Jordan love. But as we said here right now, what
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: do you think the story could get up? Do you
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: think you get up to six? If it is, you know, about.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Six or seven, because I think everybody's going to come
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: in on the Lions and nobody's going to run.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: To back Lions outdoors too.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, right, Yeah, So this is a weight
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and this.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Is probably gonna be our big balls. I can already
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: this is a.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Weight and on Thursday we're betting the Packers. I mean,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what's going to happen at this point.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to check the MVP ads right now. Jared
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Goff is still plus seven hundred. Nothing's been updated.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna update because Lamar is gonna drop obviously.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Right now, Lamar's number one. Josh Allen two mahomes three golf,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: four golf, had fewer than one hundred yards, but he
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: had three touchdowns. The Lions basically won that game on
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: special teams like you said, and running the ball. Jamiir
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Gibbs and David Montgomery were both amazing. So all right,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the games that we pegged, like we feel strongest about
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Buffalo minus six, and I think the Rams plus one
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and a half. You took a little taste of the Giants,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: we'll take a little taste of the Raiders at eight
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and a half. We don't mind the Pats as underdogs
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: against the Titans. Everything else is a wait and see.
• 39:36
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