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Eubank vs Benn Recap & Undercard Bouts! Preview Returns From Canelo, Inoue, Garcia, Haney, & Teofimo! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, what up, boxing fans. This is the Rope of
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Dobe Radio podcast. I'm your host, Chris Carlson. We are
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: live on a Wednesday night. I hope everybody's doing okay.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Of course, we do have a lot to talk about
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  Speaker 1: from last weekend in the upcoming weekend carts Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: lots of stuff to talk about. We will go over
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit of fight Newsvendora dropping the WBO belt,
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: en root of a Tim Zu rematch. I guess there
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: is rematched clause in there someplace that still was available.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about that kind of sets up.
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  Speaker 1: I would say two equally matched fights, because now Ziaz
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: has a fight that might be a pretty good fight. Anyway,
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: we will talk. Of course, like I said, this week,
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  Speaker 1: we got a variety of fights coming up. But you
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: Bank and Ben put on a hell of a fight.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Man put on a hell of a fight. It was
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: a good scrap. It was more action packed than I
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: thought it would be, especially in the beginning of it.
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  Speaker 1: I was one of those that thought, and I've had,
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: you know, multiple conversations with people that thought the same way,
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  Speaker 1: that it would take a little while to heat up
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: and uh Ben, whether it hurt him or help him.
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  Speaker 1: He came out firing it. Now. He missed a lot
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  Speaker 1: of shots early, but he came out more aggressive than
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  Speaker 1: I thought. The jab, I guess you could say ultimately
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  Speaker 1: was the key for Christy you Bank Junior. But it
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  Speaker 1: was competitive. It was very competitive. We'll talk about that fight.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like there's going to be a rematch. They already
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  Speaker 1: had it in the contract, so it sounds like it
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  Speaker 1: was a two fight deal, which kind of makes sense
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: when you're dealing with Turkey, whether it's Sadi in Turkey
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  Speaker 1: or just Turkey in the ring magazine, or maybe that's both.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. So yeah, we'll talk about the undercard.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it was good. The opener was good. There
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  Speaker 1: was some good moments, but you know, to be fair,
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  Speaker 1: there was some there was some lackluster. I guess you
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: could say to it, Anthony Yard won the fight, but
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: didn't look all that good doing it. If I'm honest,
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: I'm fighting back the hiccups here, So sorry if I
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: keep pausing. So yeah, well we'll talk about that. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, it does appear that there's a rematch. Something
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: kind of strange. I just went to the zone before
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: I started the podcast, and I wanted to get the
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: actual official price or whatever, you know, ninety dollars for two,
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  Speaker 1: So it's like a really spendy pay per view for
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  Speaker 1: two pay per views basically. So from a hardcore perspective,
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  Speaker 1: of course, that's a that's a that's a better you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good deal. It's better than just one pay
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  Speaker 1: per view. But the whole point is whether it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone's gonna buy just one of them or both of
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: them or whatever, you can't buy them right now on
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  Speaker 1: my app. I don't know if I have to go
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: on my phone and go sign in through that, but
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  Speaker 1: I just went there. I searched. You know, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: spend twenty minutes in there. I didn't spend even ten minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I suppose. I guess maybe it's somewhere in there, but
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  Speaker 1: as of right now, I can't buy. It's Wednesday, two
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  Speaker 1: days before the Friday fight, and it's on an app exclusively,
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  Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't, I can't buy it. I
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  Speaker 1: just thought it was a little strange. I thought it
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: was a little strange. I did here, and I I
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: was kind of going through a couple of messages and
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  Speaker 1: that folks sent to me since the last show. And
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  Speaker 1: I did see, you know, some people having problems buying
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  Speaker 1: this last pay per view. Now I didn't have a
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: problem with that. It was twenty five dollars went in there,
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: didn't have a problem. Now, I did buy it the
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  Speaker 1: night before. But you know, I generally remember being able
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: to buy it earlier, and I've seen like little there's
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  Speaker 1: like there's fight breakdowns and you know, the grand arrivals
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  Speaker 1: and the press stuff and interviews and all that, and
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  Speaker 1: when you watch that, it literally says buy it now,
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  Speaker 1: go to the site. Well I'm at the app and
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't buy it. So hopefully it's available by tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise it's just kind of strange to make it available
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  Speaker 1: the night the day of. But anyway, just something that
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  Speaker 1: I noticed. But I did see that people are having
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: a little problems buying the U Bank one. And I
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: don't know if they bought it right as it was
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  Speaker 1: starting and that was the issue or what. I have
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  Speaker 1: no clue, But like I said, it was a really
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  Speaker 1: good fight, very competitive. I thought it was a clear winner,
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  Speaker 1: but a competitive fight. You can have eight to four,
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  Speaker 1: seven to five, whatever it is. And it can. It
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  Speaker 1: can be a clean win, but a competitive fight, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what we got. So we'll definitely start with round
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  Speaker 1: by round, breaking that down along, you know, with the
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  Speaker 1: undercard stuff, and then preview the weekend. My favorite fight
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: by a long shot is the Tao Femo Lopez Arnold Barbosa.
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  Speaker 1: I think stylistically it could be tricky for Tao Fema. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see exactly how it goes. And obviously
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: you know the Friday show being in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: I like the idea of it. I'm not crazy about
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  Speaker 1: the back to back nights with pay per view, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think it's a little funky,
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: but at least you have more recognizable names. Obviously Canela,
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  Speaker 1: but Ryan Garcy as well. Ryan Garci and Haini did
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  Speaker 1: a pretty solid pay per view number, i'd say so,
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  Speaker 1: and Tao Femo in the card as well. So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about the under card. I mean, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to like breaking down the fights, it'll be more
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  Speaker 1: undercard because, like I said, the three main events and
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  Speaker 1: really the I guess it's kind of like co feature
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  Speaker 1: main events with Haney end Garcia, those four fights Ramirez
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  Speaker 1: is probably the most solid competition there, but we know
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  Speaker 1: he's pretty much passed it too. So we'll see the
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  Speaker 1: ad that they had for the fight. I liked it
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: for Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney, but it made it
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  Speaker 1: look like they're fighting each other, like, so it's very misleading,
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  Speaker 1: uh that way, But I like the ad. I definitely
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: like the ad. So so yeah, we're gonna get into it.
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  Speaker 1: And just the second John might be joining us. He's
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: having a little power outage in his neck of the woods,
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: so you know how that as your internet, your electricity.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: Well we'll see how that if it can pop on here,
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  Speaker 1: so hopefully we can. If not, you know, it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is, hopefully we'll get him, you know, back
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  Speaker 1: next week. So yeah, if this is your first time
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• 9:45
  Speaker 1: like I said, going into this fight, I knew, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people complained about this fight. It's not
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  Speaker 1: as big a deal over here, but I already knew that.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be a big fight.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: They had it in the stadium, the crowds came out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very happy that the UK are you know, is
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: getting these type of fights. They got another big one
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: coming up in the summer with du Bois in USK
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  Speaker 1: in Wembley because they're a while. There was a while there,
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  Speaker 1: even before Saudi Rabi came in some of their fights
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  Speaker 1: going to Monaco and and you know the Middle East
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  Speaker 1: in general, there was a time there where it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: doing as well. And you know, if you you know,
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  Speaker 1: make fights that the UK fight fans want to see,
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: guess what they're gonna show up. So we already know that,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I'm really happy to see the UK
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  Speaker 1: you know, back in effect that way with the stadium stuff,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: and it's great. It's great to see. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, we're kind of going through it over here
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  Speaker 1: to an extent when it comes to fights with US,
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  Speaker 1: appeal not happening in the US, so you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how that goes from here. It is nice though,
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  Speaker 1: Like I mentioned that they're doing something kind of you know,
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  Speaker 1: outside the box on Friday, so I think that is
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool in New York City. And then as long
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  Speaker 1: as it remains the plan having Crawford, as long as
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  Speaker 1: he gets no disrespect to Skull, but as long as
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  Speaker 1: he gets through him and you know, Crawford, they say
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be in Vegas here, so that would
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  Speaker 1: be nice. But yeah, so I didn't really have a
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  Speaker 1: major issue with this fight happening. A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: did when it first got announced, like you know, a
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: few years back. In a sense, it was kind of like,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I just knew as a money grab.
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  Speaker 1: But the cool thing is it turned out to be
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  Speaker 1: a good fight, and now there's a rematch, and it
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  Speaker 1: could have been a slug It could have been not
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  Speaker 1: a slug fest but just a just a just a
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  Speaker 1: dragging on fight. You know, there could have been it
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  Speaker 1: could have been a different fight. And I even admit,
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: like I just said not long ago, that I did
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  Speaker 1: think it would take some rounds to get going. I
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: really did, and that wasn't the case. So overall, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the crowd came out, you had a ready or not
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: here Ben comes right when he came out, and they
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: had like the orchestra thing, and you know, for some reason,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Rick Rino is holding the ring belt just kind of
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: weird in my opinion. Then you had Yu Mang Junior
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  Speaker 1: coming out. I liked the little orchestra hit that they
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: had there. It wasn't in the pit, but you know
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: what I mean, little Tina Turner vibe with the simply
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: the best and then Orchestra vibe with the still dre
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: That was cool. So the walkouts were good. And I
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: do find it funny, how see, I love me a
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: good rivalry when it comes to the UK in the US,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: like in the ring, like I love those matchups. It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: But as far as like making it a rivalry just
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: about boxing, because we know boxing, on average the last
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  Speaker 1: decade plus has been more popular over there. Eddie Hearn
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  Speaker 1: has said it took him a while to figure that out,
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  Speaker 1: but once he got here he realized why boxing wasn't
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: as popular. And sure the sport itself has damaged itself
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: right in many ways. But the competition here, with the
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: amount of sports and the amount of entertainment we have,
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: we know it's it's not as popular. There are some
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: fighters that are very popular. There are some fights that
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: drop big crowds, and we do live gates and all that,
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, you will see a fight if it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna make more money at the MGM or you know
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  Speaker 1: in Vegas and an arena. Basically they're probably gonna put
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  Speaker 1: it in an arena. They're not gonna make less money,
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  Speaker 1: putting it in a stadium and for the fight fans
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  Speaker 1: to be able to go, even if you're just looking
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: at a big screen or you have binoculars. It's just
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: the vibe being at a stadium with the fight, just
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: the vibe of it is awesome. And then you get
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: the tickets are especially not the ones up close on
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: the floor, but yeah, the tickets will be you know,
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: less expensive, so that's cool too. So it just taken
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: in the vibe. But to make it a rivalry like oh,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: because you hear I did see a bunch of people
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter saying, you know, the US can't match this
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: environment and they have more stadium fights than US. That's true.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I also but you know when we talk about environment,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I mean Aero Spence has more than one walkout in
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  Speaker 1: a stadium fight that is just as good a vibe
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  Speaker 1: as anything I've seen last night. And by the way,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: like there's been better walkouts since stadium fights vibe wise
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  Speaker 1: than this one. So I think that's a little silly.
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  Speaker 1: I can see like an American being a little jealous
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  Speaker 1: because of that, and that's fair, But to sit there
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  Speaker 1: and make it about the US UK when it comes
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  Speaker 1: down to that, I think it's kind of silly, just
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: like I think when US fans call good fighters UK bombs,
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  Speaker 1: that's eurobums. I think that's stupid. I think it's I
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  Speaker 1: think it's silly. So I'd rather it be not it
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  Speaker 1: because it just kind of it lends itself to that
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  Speaker 1: promotional beef stuff, you know, and that's that's stupid, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Let let's let's enjoy it. And so, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I I'm not sick of the song Sweet Caroline, you know,
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  Speaker 1: nor will I ever get sick of it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I love I love the vibe that was going on.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get into the fight. I just had to
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: kind of talk about that because it's like I guess,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know where when we turned on Twitter.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I can't really capture the exact year. But it's just
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: so funny how it's it's more about that you just
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  Speaker 1: saw a good fight that's gonna have a rematch, and
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  Speaker 1: the build up's gonna be great again and all that shit,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and the first thing you got to say is, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't do that, you know, or the first time
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  Speaker 1: the first thing an American is gonna say when a
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  Speaker 1: UK fighter loses or a European fire lose to American
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  Speaker 1: all that they're not on our level. Just just just
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: enjoy the fucking fight sometimes, man, it's just silly anyway.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell it's bugging me because I'm trying to
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: get to this round by round and it just kind
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of sticking with me. Like I mentioned before, you Bank
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Junior and his jab. That was the key ultimately to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the fight. I mean, I think that's plain his day.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: He came out with the jab, adding a few right hands,
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  Speaker 1: and Ben landed a nice right hand, but he was
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  Speaker 1: early on falling in in missing wide shots far too much.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was way too aggressive. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be aggressive, set it up, you know what I mean,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: set the thing up, don't just go bombs away. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Something that helped him not get hit as much was
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: his Ben talking about his upper body and head movement.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Both of them flashed that at times, and they did
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good job. I so I gave you Bank
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the first run, I gave Ben the second roun. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Ben or you you Bank still had his jab and
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: all that, but I thought the jab in the left hook,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: now you know, Ben eventually was able to land good
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  Speaker 1: right hands, but his left hook for me was the
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  Speaker 1: key for a while, and so you know, the short, accurate,
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  Speaker 1: you know, left hook. I thought that was I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was that was nice, and I thought that did enough,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, the right hand still not
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  Speaker 1: landing all that much. Like I said, he's a little
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: too wild with it. I did give Ben the third round,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: you know, and this is the round I thought he
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: was finally laying his right hand a lot more cleaner,
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  Speaker 1: and he definitely showing the good head movement, upper body movement.
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  Speaker 1: The left hooks, of course were there, and he had
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: like a late, little early and late in that round,
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  Speaker 1: whereas you know, some good work. So I gave him
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the round. I thought, once again, it was mostly just
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you bank, mostly jabbing right, not all that effective, but
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I thought you banking the fourth along with this jab
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  Speaker 1: the sharp right hand started coming out, whether it's straight
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: or he even landed like two maybe three uppercuts right
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  Speaker 1: uppercuts and a nice and some I think think at
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  Speaker 1: least one or two, well for sure one but I
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was more than one. But a
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  Speaker 1: good right hand to the body too that he was landing.
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  Speaker 1: So I gave him the fourth. I gave him the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: fifth as well, you Bank. There was some back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought the one twos the jab was basically
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: just controlling the round and then he'd throw in some
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: one twos. Ben did land a nice right hand in
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the sixth round, but the harder lands the left hook
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the jab. I also thought that was enough for the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: sixth round for me. But I liked what you Bank
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was doing with his with his free hand. I really
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: liked what he was doing with his free hand. Now,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: this wraf was way too involved, and you know what
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I could tell he was gonna be. I've seen him
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: ref a bunch, so I know he's involved. But when
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna try to be too involved
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: is when when they didn't touch gloves and he made
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: him touch gloves. It's like, all right, dude, you know
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they're about to punch each other in the face. Sportsmanship,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it, right, it's good. But if that'll
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: touch gloves, who gives a shit? I mean, really, who
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: really cares? So it's like, and maybe that is more
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of a you know, Mexico American type way to fight
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: with the free hand. I'll give you that, but you
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: know if you got a free hand, and especially if
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you're not the one holding, you got to use that thing.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: And I thought you Bank did that throughout the fight.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So I had him up for two after six. I
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: think someone on the broadcast had him up for to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: bed I should say, not just him. I thought that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was Laura. I would have been fine with three three,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it's no big deal, but I didn't think it was
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: four two the other way personally. Now, the seventh round
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: for me, the seventh and eighth were close, and there
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: was probably, give or take three close rounds past the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: seventh round, I gave the right upper cuts in an
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: exchange a Chris jab Throughout Ben had his moments. He
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: definitely did good in the in the seventh, but I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: gave it to you Bank. Same with the eighth really
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and late, you know, you did see some hooks land
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: in in exchange for Ben, but once again, very close
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: round could have went either way. I did think that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: U Bank though landed the better shot, but it was close,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you know, so that that could have went either way.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I will sing oops. I gave Ben the ninth round.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I thought that was the best round of him of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the fight for him, as far as right hands go.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He was landing that thing really really well. And the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: last part U Bank did have some success the last
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: part of the ninth round, but I don't think it
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: was enough. The tenth round here's another close round. So
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: there was three really close rounds for me. I gave
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it to Ben, but man, he he was starting to
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: look really tired and he was holding more and more,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: but to his credit, he was still landing well. It
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: did look like he shook up U Bank enough, but
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the thing is U Bank close stronger in the round.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: So how shook up really was he? It's you know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's up for debate the eleventh round. In the twelfth run,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I gave the U Bank. You know, obviously the jab,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: multiple flurries, you know, both of them are throwing late,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: you know, landing clean, some really fun stuff. Don't get
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: me wrong, but I just thought that, you know, he
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: had it in early exchanges in the twelfth a great round.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I think the left hook was landing better overall, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you know, down the stretch more hooks, Ben was kind
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of on the ropes. He finally had him on the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: ropes and that left hook really was the difference. So
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I had it like eight to four, seven to five,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: maybe seven to four to one max, though I'd say
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: seven to five. I didn't see necessarily a draw. Now
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I had it eight to four. I gave him the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: ninth and the tenth, and what was it the third
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and the fourth or was it the second and the third?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: But you know the seventh and eighth. If I swung that,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: then it'd be seven to.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Five, you know.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: If I gave one to U Bank, one to Ben.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So the judges had it all one, sixteen, one twelve.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a fair card for cards plural,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and so I was happy. I was happy with the fight,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: very happy, and I'm actually looking forward to the rematch.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: It does seem like they have you know, it kind
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: of seems like they have it all figured out already
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: from the sounds of it, even down to the weight rehydration.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: This is uncrowned combat. This is the source you Bank
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: or Eddie. Eddie Hern confirmed the U Bank Connor Ben
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: rematch is signed to be at one sixty with ten
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: pound rehydration cloud the same terms as the first fight.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: The hope is for it to be at the end
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of September at to Totingham Hotspur Stadiums. At the same stadium,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: so you know, the weight clearly, you know, wasn't coming
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: right off of him. Yeah, he did have to. You know,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: he didn't look great body wise. I'll say that with
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you make and I was fairly confident to the point
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe Ben would be affected more by the weight,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just off the size and you know, just being at
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: one sixty. He's talking about he wants to stay at
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: one sixty now. So but yeah, I mean they did
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the rehydration. He looked okay, but on fight night it
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: didn't he you could say at times he was pacing himself.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: But then Ben was the one gas and now you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: when they were both throwing a bunch of punches later
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: later in the fight, then they both had little moments
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: of being tired and gassed. And you could see in
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that one round was it the tenth or eleventh where
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: you Bank was looking up the clock because that was
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: after like one of his best flurries, I believe. So,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: so you know, if it was another year off or something,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: then I may maybe start to think, oh, this might
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: not be good for you, Bank. But I think both
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of them can improve on their performance. I will say that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see ultimately what happens. But I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: think that I think the jab and just setting up
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: setting up more shots, being aggressive but not being so
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: loose with the right hand from Ben, I thought he
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: was just I don't think he has the power to hurt, hurt,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and well not to hurt, but to knock out you Bank,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: So why waste a bunch of energy missing these home
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: run hitters with the right hand. I thought that was
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a mistake. And uh. And also like targeting the body,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I did hear a lot of people say you Bank
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: should have targeted the body. They they every time he
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: went there, they said, oh, he's targeting the body. He
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: didn't really target it a whole much of a whole
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: bunch though, And obviously the bigger man that may have
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: issues making the weight and all that may be drained
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: at that time. That's what you're thinking now, I guess obviously,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: if you go too much to the body, if you're
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: not in the right position, if you're not close enough,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: or if you're too close, you end up more shoeshine, smothering.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But you can't get countered that way obviously, So sometimes
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: body punch it isn't as easy to you know accomplish basically,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: but overall, you know, I did I I thought it
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: was a good fight. I did think it was a
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: good fight, and it'll be interesting to see on the rematch.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: So overall late September, if everybody's okay, I know there
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: was a cut that should have plenty of time to heal.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about some of the other fights
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: here in a short little bit. I thought the other
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: fight I was really anticipating as far as action though,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: was William Smith and Glatton. And I thought Smith won
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: pretty cleanly eight to four. I think you know, two
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of them had it that eight to four one sixteen
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: one twelve one had at one sixteen one thirteen Smith.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: The first two rounds there was two way moments right,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: but I thought Billiam Smith was big right hands, you know,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: targeting the body as well, and just you know, better
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: lands overall, the right, right to the head, right to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the body. I did give another right round. The third
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: round was a fun round. I did give Glenn Glatten
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: that one. I thought he closed stronger. The fourth round
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: was pretty close, the fifth round. In the sixth round
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I gave to Clatten the short left hooks and the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: overhand rights early in kind of mid through the sixth
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: those big right hands. I thought that was enough to do.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: With the seventh, I gave the Billiam Smith right hands
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to the body and uppercuts as well with the right hand.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I thought the eighth round was pretty close. The ninth round,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: let's see, I'm looking at it. I think I gave
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the rest to Billiam Smith. He was jabbing more and more.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Another thing he was busier, of course he was. He was.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: By like the eighth and ninth round, he was starting
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to stay off the ropes more. And you could also
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: see while he was doing that, Glatton was starting to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: slow down. The tenth round nothing too effective, jabs, right
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: hands to the body, more upper cuts, but Gladden just
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: not being effective at that point. And the last few
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: rounds Billion Smith was just beating him to the punch.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Good fight though, especially through for like maybe six seven
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: rounds it was it was really competitive. Oh, I see
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: John's on here, so I'll let him. I'll get him
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: in here, alright, he should be popping in here any second. Alrighty,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: let's see if I can get maybe I oh, here
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: we go maybe possibly.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I'm here in New Jersey in the midst of a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: power failure, so you may just be seeing darkness.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I do only see darkness, but that's okay.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I thought maybe I could get a little bit of
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: visibility at least give you a horror movie kind of
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: vibe or something like that. But I'm just in darkness.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So we're supposed to be out of power for another
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: couple hours here, but I'm only sitting, you know, I'm
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: about thirty five miles from where the fights will be
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: taking place in Times Square on Saturday night, So I'll
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: just do that for a little location perspective.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Nice. Nice, And isn't it like a thunderstorm or something.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: No, it was strange. I was out on the deck
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: grilling about six o'clock when you and I were texting
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and everything was good to go for now, and then
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: about five minutes after that, all of a sudden, everybody's
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: power went out and started getting messages from the power
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: our company and the internet provider that they were investigating.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: We're gonna be out for a few hours.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's strange. I just assume, like, you know, some
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: sort of big ass branch from a tree fell on
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: an electric you know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Something, That's what it could be. There were doing some
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: tree cutting in the area today. That's what one of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the one of the neighbors was saying, but that hasn't
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: been confirmed for sure. But I'm I don't have a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I don't have a generator here, so this is where
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: I'm at right now.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Well that's okay, that's all right. We hear you loud
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and clear, and that's all that counts. I was wondering
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna make it. I tried to delay it
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit just to see if we can have
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you on. So that's awesome that you made it. Life
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: gets in the way, especially you know, with our schedules,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: but then all of a sudden, this this hits.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: So yes, weird. No, I was, you know, I still
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: wanted to be on so I could see we're in
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the power and time. But I thought, well, at least
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: at least I can get on and we we can
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: talk at at the least.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, we had a tornado warning in the cities,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: which is very rare in the actual city, but it
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: actually at the very last second, it swooped in around
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the metro just randomly, but the clouds were crazy. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: got some really good shots on top of like an
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: eight story building. It was. It was awesome. But they
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: kept talking about hail too, which it did come down
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: in like you know, over golf ball sizes, but it
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: just it just didn't hit us. But so we had
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a little funky humidity pop up out of nowhere and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: it was like it was getting close to eighty degrees
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere, but it all kind of went went
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: away and never actually hit. Just a lot of wins.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So it's you know, obviously as we get into these
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: type of seasons that you know that is the one
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: thing that the warm weather's awesome, you do get the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: thunderstorms and tornadoes and all that stuff. Let's you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: at the end of our conversation, maybe you can kind
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: of catch up as far as what you've missed recently. Yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: but let's start kind of focused in on what happened
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: this last weekend in a stadium fight that I gotta admit, John,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I was saying it last week. I was saying it
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: just a second ago that I thought it was going
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to take a little while for it to get entertaining
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: because I just assumed that you Bank would take his
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: time with this jab what he did. But I thought
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: he'd be more hesitating because he didn't want to wear
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: his body out and get gassed. But I also thought
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Ben would be a little wary at the start, just
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: because of the size and the weight or whatever. But
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that wasn't the case. I thought you Bank was loose
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with his right hand, way too loose, like throwing bombs
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and not really being coordinated with it. But his left
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: hooks were effective early on. But it turned into kind
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: of just being a good scrap. You know that there
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: was technical aspects eventually, but it was mostly just a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: good scrap. And if you're gonna have a fight where
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you have, you know, the fathers bringing him out, you
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: have the rivalry built in there. At least we got
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: a good tussle, is the way I looked at it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about the other card, but what did you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: think of the fight itself? Like I said, I wasn't
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: going in with much anticipation. I was just like, let's
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: see what happens.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I thought the way you did, Chris, I didn't have
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: much anticipation going in. I felt like it was just
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: kind of a nostalgia fight, you know, really marketed obviously
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: for you know, British sensibilities. Which if you were going
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: to get a real good fight, which we got a
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: much better fight than expected. It doesn't mean everyone else can,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: but that's not who it was directed towards. And I
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: wasn't expecting an overly entertaining fight going in uh and
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: we got to you know there so and really the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: way they had it set up, you know, pay pay
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: per view in the US and a fight where you
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: know you were going to have trouble getting interstoked in
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the US because it wasn't marketed in the US sensibility.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So the NBA playoffs are going on.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I thought in the US your DA anyway,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: and I wasn't expecting to kind of fight we got.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I agree with you, you know, I've seen you Bank
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Junior fight like that in the past at times, not
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: all the time, but I was with you the way
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: he'd been going in more recent years, and for this fight,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you figured he'd be jabbing some, trying to box some.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: He's not really a great boxer, but but we've seen
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: him do that and and you know, win some fights
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that way. And you know he adjusted and handled Liam
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Smith easily in the rematch. That was kind of a surprise.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: The way he totally flipped it. But seeing him occasionally,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: like you know, in a fight where he wasn't effective,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: but you saw him fighting that way, was like against Groves,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: you know, years ago, and then you'd seen him against
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: some lesser opponents just do that and maybe get him
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: out of there. Wasn't expecting that in this one, but
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: as you described correctly, that's what you got. You know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: it was a positive for boxing in that sense. So
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you know, on the British side of things, that worked
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: out real well because you know, it was a good
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: entertaining fight, marketed for British sensibilities and just in the
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: realities of the marketing of the sport. And I thought,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: which wasn't discussed enough, is let's face it, neither of
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: these guys is going anywhere, so you know, if they
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: want to have a rematch, it was an entertaining fight. Fine,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: So you know, I thought on the British end it
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: worked out great like that, you know, and of course
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: for anybody seeing it just being a good fight, it
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: worked out well. And then since it was a good
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: fight in terms of entertainment, I thought it was a
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: missed opportunity on the US end because we've talked about
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: this a lot, and let's let's say it was set
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: up on the US end. You know, all right, the
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: zone's got the rights, even if it's on his own
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: where you don't have to pay. Not that many people
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: are going to see it in the US, but more
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: would have. But let's say, in a theoretical sense, if
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: you cut a deal, because we did, we had seen
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of this, like where in the US it
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: was going to be on like ESPN Plus and they
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: said exactly what time it was gonna run, And you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: maybe then even you got a couple of people surfing
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: around for something to watch and caught it, and boxing
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: fans that wanted to see it could just see it
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: on the ESPN Plus. Then you get a fight like
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: this that turned out good, and you would have gained
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: something out of the US market in addition to the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: British market. That's just where I think the opportunity was missed.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: But you know, for boxing as a whole, it's always
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: good when you get a good fight, and it worked
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: out spectacularly well for British sensibilities because it was marketed
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: for that. It's nostalgia for you know, both of their
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: fathers and you got a good fight so worked out. Well,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to blame all involved, including the fighters.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: If they just go rematch here. I don't see either
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: of them going anywhere, and you got a good, entertaining fight.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So maybe the next time around on the US end,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: they could take advantage of that, like I said, and
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: get it set up where it's not pay per view
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: in the US and at least if the rematch is good,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: you get some more viewers in the US next time.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what was bothering me once I
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: heard the price. Not the price, it's twenty five bucks whatever,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: but the fact that is payball when it would have
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: already been a payball anyway. I could like, I'm not
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: talking about the original fight because that was gonna be
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: just straight up, it wasn't gonna be a pay for here.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: But I could have sworn when they announced this go
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: round that it wasn't going to be pay per view here,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden leading up to it
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: is like, oh no, it's pay per view. I just
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the zone has this way of like misleading the customers,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and even when they advertise, oh, you know, this fight's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: coming up, they don't say it's pay per view. You know,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, it's just kind of weird.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: But I could have sworn. You know, I did a
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: little googling. I couldn't find it per se because I
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: kept getting the press releases from the early for the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: first time they were going to fight. But like, I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: didn't think it was supposed to be pay per view here.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I could have sworn. I went through a couple of
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: interviews with Eddie and others, and I could have sworn
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: they said it wasn't gonna be payper here, and there's
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: really no reason, like you said, for it to be
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: pay per view. And yes, from the hardcore perspective, twenty
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: five bucks is good, we get it. But it all
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: goes down to they keep saying that it's going to
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: grow the sport and all that, this this whole Turkey
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Saudi ring, it's all gonna grow the sport, and it
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: just it doesn't. How the fuck is it going to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: grow the sport? I just don't. And we're gonna get
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: into this weekend back to back pay per views, you know,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: three in a week basically, right. It just that one
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: threw me off. But like you said, hopefully The key
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: thing is, if you're spending this money, why not like
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: what kind of revenue you make it from it? Anyway?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: You know, right, it's just it. And ultimately, if it
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: is a good fight it turned out to be, then
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: maybe do the pay per view for twenty five bucks
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: after you've gotten people their appetite. You know, it's gotten
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: up a little bit. Okay, I'll pay for that. That's cool.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Twenty five bucks. That's nothing, you know, I don't know that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing that bugged me because I could
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: have sworn that it wasn't pay per view originally, even
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the not the original original two years ago. But I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: could have sworn that it wasn't going to be pay
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: of you that all of a sudden, it just was.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: So that part was kind of weird, like you said,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the timing of it everything, but it you know, from
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the sounds of it, it did really well on pay
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: per view. You know, I don't have any numbers or
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: anything like that, but I could see why it would
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: sell there obviously, and it the rematch is going to
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: do even bigger my estimation. But I agree like Connor Ben,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't really done much yet, and U
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: bank's been limited. At least he's fought in a higher
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: level of opponent win or lose, right, but we've seen
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: the ceiling, so and he's thirty five or whatever, so
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you know, to me, you know, why not do it again?
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like this was a two fight deal.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And it's the same way, same rehydration, claus, same everything,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: same stadium. It sounds like late September, so that'll work,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I think overall, and it's about as good a fight
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: as it could turn out to be. And if anyone
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: was gas and it was Ben late. I did think
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that the referee was far too involved. And I know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you know the US and Mexico, the way the fights
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: turn out with the one hand free we he liked
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: our fights to work with. If you only have if
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you have a free one hand, he'd do something with it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: And I thought he was too involved, and that ref
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: is kind of one of those type of refs. But
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna be too involved John from
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the start when they didn't touch gloves and he made
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: him touch gloves. You know, I was like, all right, dude,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: you're gonna stop the fight because that they didn't touch
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: gloves like it's just I don't know, but he was
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: in there all the time and and it was mostly
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Ben holding, so he actually was the one gassing. But
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: both of them got tired late and all that, because
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you know, they threw a fair amount of punches. But
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it did turn out. Any other things from that otherwise, Uh,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: we could talk about uh yeah, the guard action.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just one thing because it's it's rare and
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: it's the first fight I saw this from Connor Ben,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: but it could be a trend going forward. Yeah. To me,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the only two fighters and I've mentioned this before really
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: in boxing that at least for me, come to mind,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: who are better at hurting opponents to the body than
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: they are to the head or and these are total
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: opposite fighters. But it's what I see, And you know,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: you've seen it with Gilberto Zerdo Ramirez throughout his career
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and cor Stevenson has definitely started to have that trend.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: It doesn't hurt guys up to the head, but he'll
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: hurt guys to the body at times when he commits
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: to it. Well, you saw that with Ben in this
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: U Bank fight. Like you know, even though yeah, he's
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: fighting a bigger guy, you know, he's supposedly this puncher,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and of course we're skeptical because the level of opposition.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: And that was right because for a guy that was
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: supposedly this puncher, even fighting a bigger guy, Let's face it,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: he was not hurting U Bank upstairs. But there was
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: a couple of times where he threw that left hook
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: to the body and he looked like he heard him.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: That was you know, we'll have to see if that's
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: a trend going forward, because you just don't see that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: much except for the two examples I mentioned, at least
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: that I can think of. But but I thought Ben
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: was doing some of that, you know, Saturday, So that
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: was kind of interesting to me because you know, for
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: a guy that was like this puncher going in even
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: fighting a bigger guy, I mean, I mean U Bank
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: did get stopped by Liam Smith. So but you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't you know, really like you said, especially, I
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: just you didn't see connor Ben really really hurt. I mean,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: you Bank didn't look like he was really concerned about
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Connor Ben hurting him upstairs.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I took up a couple of times, nothing serious.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Right, so that, but but I did see him he
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: seemed like he stung him to the body a couple
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: of times with that left hook to the body. So
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of interesting.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Because the shots upstairs didn't didn't the authority from the
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: lesser competition, and of course he was fighting at a
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: bit lower weight, but but that wasn't really carrying over to.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Me, right, Yeah, yeah, I thought the right hand of
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the body early in the fight kind of made Ben
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: think about it too, So yeah, maybe and people did say, hey,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: if you've got a guy that's potentially dreamed, John did
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: go to the body, you know, like the hell out
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: of the body, and if you're so aggressive at because
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing the jab enough I thought, especially early
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: in that fight. And the left hook was tight by Ben,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: but you know that those looping right hands were just like, dude,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: what do he First of all, they're not like you said,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: they're not gonna do a whole lot anyway, so why
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: even waste your energy and you can get caught, which
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: he did with shorter punches. But maybe that'll be something
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: that he will apply because he was coming forward aggressively.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: He was using a lot of head, body and upper
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: body movement. But yeah, maybe that will set up the
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: head shots where it's he can kind of catch him
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: when he's not ready or something. But I was just
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: going over that Chris Williams Smith victory over Brandon Glatton
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: that I thought was entertaining for about six seven, eight
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: rounds and then it became kind of one sided. Anthony
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Yard did win the fight, but it was pretty lackluster
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and the dal Riley basically just use a jab and movement,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: and it was you know, as the fight went on,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: there was a little two way spurts or whatever. But
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: or like I'm looking at my scorecard, the sixth round,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: very very slow start to the sixth then it picked
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: up some, but it was I don't know, there was
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: a fifth round O'Reilly was actually throwing meaningful punches, but
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I just didn't see enough meaningful punches in that fight.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, talk about some of the stuff on the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the undercard, John.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: What what one thing I like about William Smith and
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Glenn As you mentioned, you know, at least for the
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: first seven or eight rounds, right, it wasn't like a
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: you know, a great fight or a fight of the year.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: But but I give both of those guys credit. They've
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: they've they're usually in entertaining fight. And that's where I
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: liked about the matchup. And uh, that was a good
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: solid matchup to have and U those those two guys,
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I like that during their career, They've both been in
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: some some good fights over the course of their career,
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: and you know that that was a good fight. So
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I did, uh, I did, uh, I did like. I
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: did like that. I I you know, I like that.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I like that matchup.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: And then do you really even think much of Avidell Riley?
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there something to even look at, like
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: future wise with him?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: And I don't I'm not I don't think. I don't
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: think really, Yeah, I don't. I don't think. I don't think.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think really. I mean, it wasn't really that
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't really that stellar of a wasn't
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: that stellar of a chord really, But you know, you
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: got an entertain main event, and I'm good with the
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I'm good with the rematch, right, And I think William Smith,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean he's at the end. I think
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: he's at the end of the line.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: You know, he's too many rounds you could give him
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: against that.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I think he's you know, he's I
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: think he's at the end of the line. You know,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: he's really for me. He's a guy that probably he
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: ended up going farther than you know, I would have
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: would have expected, of course, you know, the fighting family,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: but probably went for you know, went farther, was able
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: to extend it further and expect and probably would be
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: a good time to call it a day. That doesn't
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: mean he's going to do it or has to do it,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: but would wouldn't be a bad time to end it.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. So overall, you know, on the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: undercard there were equally matched fights on paper, but really
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the main event in the billion Smith, Glad and Fight
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: are really the only ones that turned out that way.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think the yard like it was just like
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: a run of the middle tipe outing for him, or
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: you think he's starting to falter too, because he does
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: have these this up and down to him a little
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: bit where sometimes you seen me're like wow, you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: and obviously he's fought a good level of competition. I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: don't know, because I was I was looking at him
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: as a potential Benavidez opponent, but coming off of that
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't really warranted What are your thought about Anthony.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad you did remind me of that.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I mean I thought I took that one as a
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: lot like a like a like a moral loss for Yarn.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he got upset by Arthur the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: first time. Mm hmmm, turns that are, runs it around
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: and blows them out in a rematch, which really, you know,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: was an eraser of that first stumble, which really was
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: a bad one. And then I don't I wasn't really
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: sure why they were having this rematch. But then he's age,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: he's a massive favorite in it, and he's you know,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: always known as this aggressive puncher. Blew the guy out
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: in the in the second fight. I mean, you know,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: he's got to look impressive there and stop him. I mean,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: this to me was just unacceptable, and I I just
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: don't for me, it's this confirmation I agree with you. You know,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: there's a flash here and there, you know, a flash
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: here and there against covid LEV, a flash here and
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: there against better BV. But looking at the guy's whole career,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I just don't think the guy's that good. I mean,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: that's what I think for Yard. I mean, this was
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: kind of like, I'm not going on one fight because
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: there's been a lot of time with him. I've been
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: thinking that, but this to me really was like I said,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: in terms of the what you would expect out of
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: it was like the equivalent of a loss for him
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: to me, And you know, I just I'm really at
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: this point, you know, just sold that he's not that
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: good and yeah, if they step them up again against
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: somebody better, he's going to get knocked out again. And
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's why Warren has been kind of careful
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: with him like that.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: You know, he did have the big step ups against
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: COVID eleven better BEV, and he had his moments, but
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: he got knocked out both times, you know, so at
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: one time by a jab.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah so, and then.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: The rest of his fights, the opposition, the rest of
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: his fights really hasn't been particularly good, even even to
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: this stage.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're right. It was like the most wide
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: on the on the you know, on the card as
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: far as betting odds, and yeah, he just just looked
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: like Lester didn't. You can't give the other you know,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: you can't give Arthur a bunch of rounds or anything.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: But it's just I don't know. Yeah, it just it
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: was very like, eh, yeah, whatever he won, he did win,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, it's just I was I was
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe it's my fault for expectingmore. You know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's what it was.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: Now, I think it was set up for that, Chris.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: That's why I think he deserves to take some heat
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: for it, because he knocked the guy out in the
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: last fight. Wasn't supposed to lose to him in the
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: first fight. It was a huge upset and it was
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: really just being set up for him to look good
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: and the Cell, the Cell being.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Like, oh, well he lost to this Benevite's next or
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Right, And you know, he didn't excite anybody about him
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: fighting anybody better his next time around. And you know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I think just on this card that was higher profile
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: because of that nature of the main event, with the
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: nostalgia for you know, Ben and Ewbank Senior, was just
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: a chance for RD to look good. He was a
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: huge favorite this time. And you know, he's known as
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: this aggressive puncher with the high KO percentage. So I
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: think even with the w that that was that was
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: a setback for.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Him, right, Yeah, And you know, this weekends really funky
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: because when you look at three main events, so you
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: have some names.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia and Canelo and Innu Way and so you're like, wow, okay,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: there's some names going on and sinking to my o,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and but then when you look at their opponents, it's
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: just like, okay, wow that they like I'm looking forward
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: to Teo, Fema Lopez and Barboza. I'm looking forward to
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Bakoli fa seeing you know, I'm even I kind of look,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: we talked about this when it got made again that
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: should this fight even be happening or shouldn't they pushed
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: it back because we know yet it wasn't a brutal knockout,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: but he did travel to go get knocked out, and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he's still in that fight.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. But it's just the
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: main events just suck on paper.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: And hey, I hope Skull does something, you know, I
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: hope Roley does something, But on paper is really what's
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: going to sell something?
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I saw the I saw the the the
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: video game promo, which once again pretty much anything coming
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: out of Turkey and Saudi Arabia with these promos with
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: the money behind it. They're really good, they're phenomenal. Some
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: of them have been awesome. But it looks like it's
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a Ryan Arcia Devin Haney fight, you know, and they're like, hey,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: by the way, they're not fighting though, you know. So
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: once again, it's it's very misleading, even though it is
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: a great commercial. But you and I talked about this,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: John that that twenty five dollars is a cool thing,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: but it's not going to stay, you know, It's not
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be like that for every fight. And here we are,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: they're charging fifty or sixty dollars a piece. They're giving
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: you a double dip if you buy both of them,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: it's ninety dollars. What's really strange. I just went to
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the app before I hit record. I couldn't find the
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: pay for you to buy it. It's not on there
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and I'm wondering if other people are
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: having are going to or whatever. But the whole point
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: is it's like, if you're used to paying seventy or
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: eighty dollars for a pace view, paying ninety for two
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: full pay per views, with some with probably two to three,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: like Munkia, what's he gonna do in the rematch. I
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: mentioned the other two fights. I can understand from a
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: hardcore perspective. Yeah, man, I'm getting two fights in a night,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you know, in one buy, but you're also doing a
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: pay per view back to back nights and that's three
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: in a matter of a week. And we don't even
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: have to say what the messaging would be all on
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: boxing Twitter if a certain platform, and we know the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: platform BBC, if they did this, people would be just
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: killing them. Instead. It's like, well, I'm getting a good
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: bang for my buck because I'm used to paying eighty
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: or ninety, So that's fine. And I get that from
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a hardcore perspective, But look at these main events, John,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: why not have it free Friday night? You're we've already
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: given them credit for the for the uh, the New
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: York Times Square thing. I think it's outside the box.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I do like it a lot, and they're thinking it's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: gonna create so much buzzed, you know, tonight and tomorrow
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: that people are gonna go to the app and buy it.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: And maybe when they get there and they see Canelo,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: oh I know Canelo Okay, yeah boom, I'll buy them both.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe that'll work. Out just fine, But why not once again,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna spend the money, why not, and they're
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: not fighting each other, then why not make that free
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: to sell the pay per view the next night and
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: also in the fall to sell the rematch between Devin
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Haiti and Garcia. And we said this from the start
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: that there's really no like, why do you have to
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: hype the fight when they already had it. It did
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: a pretty good number actually, and it was an interesting fight.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: They both have a year off. Just fight right now.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it. But what are your thoughts just
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: on the back to back night pay per view on
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: three pay per views in a week, just because you're
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: giving me a discount? Okay, cool, it's only about forty
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: five dollars each pay per view, but it's just is there?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I mean they've done what one card that was in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: the pay view WIZARDO. I mean, what are your thoughts here?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Because I like the outside of the box New York thing.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. And some people are complaining, know,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: the fans don't get to go I hear you. And
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: if he always did this then it'd be kind of
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: funky for the fans. But I like the idea of it,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and I think it will draw attention, like I see
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: it online right now, drawing attention.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm gonna on this one. I'll I'll
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: just say, because there's plenty I don't like. I think
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: on this one, I'm going to say what I do
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: like first and get that out of the way. That's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: fair the opposite, Get the positive part out first. The
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: part I like is you've got Ryan Garcia on the card,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Devin Haney on the card, tia Fimo Lopez with the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: diminished state boxing is in in the US. Those are
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: three of them. It's sad that it's this diminished, but
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I with that understood. Yeah, that's three of the top
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: draws that you have in the US right now. Now,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. Hani and Garcia should be fighting each
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: other again now. But at least you've got three of
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: the top draws on the card. And then you're in
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Times Square not worrying about Live Gate, which I think
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: in the year twenty twenty five, I've said it a lot.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's not some money there, but so
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: much is by you're broadcasting in all sports that you know,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: that's the number one driver that it was a good
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: move to not worry about having a live gate and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: saying we've got this Times Square opportunity to hype it.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: And you know New York, New York Metro, New Jersey,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: you know, in in the US, this is one of
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: the most historic boxing areas, you know, mac Madison Square
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Gardens nearby. It's not what it used to be, just
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: like everywhere else, but you still do have that history
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: and a traditional playbook that always had worked in this
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: area in the past, even twenty years ago when boxing
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: was generally more popular than it is now. Because you're
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: just still you just unfortunately just do have a fade.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: You just do the playbook that always worked was you know, Yet,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: you have a New York area event, you know in
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: New York ac you know in Jersey, you know, across
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: the river, and you get all the New York media
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: covering it, you know, the local New York TV. I mean,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: you got fifteen million people in that area. You know,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: that's that's a lot of people, and you know, and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I see it, and that's what that's why I like,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: I'm here right now in Jersey, so I will be
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: tracking that just being a hardcore you know, boxing follower
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: and commentator because I'm in the thirty five mile radius
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: and i get that feel of what's going on easily
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: when I'm there and I'm I'm here, so I'm gonna
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: be watching. But in recent events, like when they've had
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Tea Fema fighting, you know, in the garden, things like that,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: I've heard. I have heard people talking about him a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: little bit like you know, you used to have and
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: you don't anymore. But I'm not seeing like the local
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: TV or the newspapers. When I say newspapers, I mean,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: you know it's online nowadays. That used to be the automatic,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: you know, New York metro media coverage, which was huge
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: to get that additional coverage if you had to fight
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: here with the history that this is part of that playbook.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: But you're not getting that coverage like you were twenty
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: years ago even so I like trying to tap into
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: that because that has historically been effective, but it hasn't
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: been as effective recently, so I'm kind of tracking that.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: So I like that, and then just you know, on
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: the other card, I just like the Joba Bakoli fight.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: You know, if Turkey has done one good thing at all,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: this it's you know, to me, it's focusing on the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: big guys and just getting these guys together fight. And
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: he's done a pretty good job of that.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's made a lot of fights.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now what what What don't I like is eyes
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: right into what you said. I mean, there's no reason
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: for Garcia and Hainy just just not to fight again.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: We don't need an in between that should have been
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: this right here. Had that in New York, you'd really
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: have a chance to get more buzz. The only odds
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: fight close on the whole weekend We close as tia
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Fimo Lopez and Barbosa, which is even tightened up a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: little bit, probably because tia Fimo the performances can be erratic,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: and then he relies on the counting your power and
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: if there's one thing Barbosa does, he doesn't have power,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: but he throws, So you could see a scenario, even
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: though to me tia Fimo Lopez is a much better
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: fighter all around, where he gets out hustled. I hope
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: he doesn't let that happen to him, because I do
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: like the guy's talent, but it could happen. So I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: get that Haney's a massive favorite over Ramirez. You know,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I do a little bit hany a year off getting
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: hanged around by Garcia. Yeah, I mean, you know, Jose
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Ramirez does come forward and throw. He's not a power puncher,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: but and he's got amateur pedigree. You know, if Han's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: a little off, I mean, and he's a huge he's
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: a he's a big underdog. He's a huge underdog. But
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I could see maybe a scenario where you know,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Ramirez is is hustling, moving forward and maybe taking some rounds.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: But but here's what I don't like. I don't like
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: cards where the odds are huge and we've got to
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: speculate like that. Like I think that's where some boxing
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: fans and commentators writers make a mistake. Like, you know,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: if Han's a minus nine hundred, you know, it's still
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: not a reason to buy the card to say, hey,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: I think Ramirez can maybe do something more than expected. Yeah,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I mean he's a you know, Haines's a minus nine
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: hundred favorite. I think that Rawley's I think he takes
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: more heat and he deserves on his ability. He's crude,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: but he has some power. But I do feel like
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: he's tailor made for Ryan Garcia that one I thought
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: from the beginning, because he swings wide, and if there's
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: one thing Ryan Garcia can do, it's you know, he
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: can throw some fast to our punches with power, and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: I could just easily see him lighting up Raleigh in
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: between wide swings, and you know, he's a huge favorite.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: But I just that one I don't see being a surprise,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: even with how erratic Ryan Garcia can be. When you
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: see you know, what he's done and stuff he's done
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: out of the ring. It just it just seems to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: me like that one's, you know, Raleigh's tailor made for him.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be pay per view. I mean, it's it
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't go there's no synergy with the idea of we're
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: gonna be in Times Square, we're not gonna worry about
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Live Gate, and then, as you said correctly, because we're
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: gonna put up a paywall. You know who wants a
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: ninety dollars package deal When Canelo is a minus eleven
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: hundred favorite against Skull, Now that's another one. I don't
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: think you buy it on this basis. But Skull has
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: no power. He's just gonna be spoiler and try to box.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: But you know, Canelo, he's getting older, he's been around
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: a long time now, and his volume just can it
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: has been dropping, and you know it can just drop.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: And he hasn't been stopping people lately. You know, he's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: he's scoring knockdowns, but he hasn't been stopping anybody. So again,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: I don't see that as a reason to buy or
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: if something weird happens and people say, oh, I told
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: you so, that was worth it. No, you can't be
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: buying fights when Canelo is an eleven hundred minus eleven
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: hundred favorite, just saying, oh, maybe we're gonna get surprised here.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: But I do see a little bit of how that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: could happen. I was surprised. I'm surprised how big of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: an underdog. I mean, even a job was a big underdog.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I noticed that. I thought it'd be a little tighter.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna call plus. Yeah. I don't
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: want to go right out and pick him, but I
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: am going to call value on that one. And I
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: did already go on that one on value. I mean
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I got him at three plus three hands, so I
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: guess it's even a little higher. But I thought, you know,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Bacoli coming off the knockout loss, even though it was
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: quick and it wasn't like he was getting beaten up.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: But even though he's a heavyweight where you don't have
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: to make the weight, that fight wasn't that long ago.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: After we're saying, you know where he was concussed. But
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: also even at heavyweight when you don't have to make
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: the weight, like, I don't think Beacoli's gonna get all
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: he was. He was way out of shape, and I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna get all that weight off. I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: know it's heavyweight, you don't have to make weight, but
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, man, the dude sixty days ago was
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: not in good shape.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Yeahler's probably shut him down for at least a week
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: or two. You'd assume, is.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Sure, right, I mean right back so you know, a jog.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: But I mean Coroma has made him a better boxer.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: We've talked about that. I mean, he's not a great boxer,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: but you do see things that have registered. I don't
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: think he is as effective, but I guess what I'm
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: thinking here is if he you know, Coroma has drilled
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: that into him enough that you know, if he boxes
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: effectively at times against Bakoli, but he adds the old
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: power punching volume he used to have with that. I mean,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Bacoli got stopped late against Michael Hunter. You know, people
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: like to forget about that because he beat Yoka and
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Anderson after that, but you know that's still there. I mean, like,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: and this guy was heavy sixty days ago. So I'm
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: even talking myself into it more as I think about it. Yeah,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about taking a shot on a
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: jog bond this one. Yeah, I do feel because you know,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Bakoli the conditioning, you know, Now a Job was got
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: to take his shots. You know, Job was six six,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: but he's not as heavy and sturdy as Bakoli. But
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: you know, the guy's got he's got good volume, you know,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: you know when he really gets gets back to him,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't try to box too much, and you know he
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: you know, both guys do need this one now. I mean,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: you know it's it's important like that as well. So
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I like that fight. I think a Job was a
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: pretty good value there. You know, I could see I
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: don't see any where Skull and Canelo is going to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: be a good fight, but you know, I do see
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: a scenario maybe where Skull's just playing spoiler boxing him
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: and Canelo's volumes down. But that's not like a particular fight.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see even if that happens, and it's
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: it's closer than expected or something. And you know, one
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: thing that actually super I was I was thinking when
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Gia was going to be a good bet because people
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: would like it just shows you how you can't fool
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: the odds bakers because he got knocked out last time
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: and he's moon Ge is a minus nine hundred favorite.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: It's like, uh, it's like he got screwed in the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: first fight with a bad decision and they're just does
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: that or something? It did so weird. He would think
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: he'd be that big at all.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think he win him, but
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: not like that. I didn't think it'd be that big.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: But I do think he'll get a ko this time.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: The guy's not a puncher. He legitimately knocked him out.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: But and I you know, you hate to be taken
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: away from Sirace, but you gotta call it as you
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: see it. And it was just fluky, you know, it
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: was just fluky. And I have found that in my
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: experience of watching boxing when people tend to overrate somebody
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: who who lands like a fluky good shot like that
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: and because they want to give him credit and it
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: just doesn't carry over. I think a Julius and Dongo
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: with that ko of Troyanovsky is one round and then
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: everybody got hyped up about him and.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: You seeded to just get stopped quick, to.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Just keep getting stopped quick for like the rest of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: his career. It seemed like, you know, but he wasn't
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: a big puncher. It was like the first round and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: just landed, just landed a bomb. I always used that
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: because it's it's one of the best examples of all time.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: I mean Doug de Witt, who you know, had had
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: had gone the distance with Herns and McCrory and just
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: take a shot after shot and was on a top
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: ranked card fighting Jose Canonas and the guy just throws
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: a wild bomb and knocks him, knocks them to wick
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: cold early, like a guy who was totally durable and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: never gets stopped and just once. It's something you don't
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: see often. It's really fair, just like a non hunch
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: or with the perfect shot against somebody who takes a
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: good shot. It's rare but it happens once in a while,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: and I think that's what they're they're looking at with
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: this Si race mun Gia. But the minus nine hundred
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: even shocked me, just like it did you. I thought, man,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I thought he'll be a favorite, but minus nine hundred.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have guessed that.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm not I'm not betting Sarrace. I'm not betting
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: him as any value or anything. I'm not recommending that.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: But it was surprising that the odds bakers were so
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: confident that the guy that got knocked out the first time.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially his style and his style to it. Yeah,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: he gets in a fair amount. So like right now,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: he was doing really good in the fight up until
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: that point. But still, like, I guess, the only way
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I bet on that guy if I just put like
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: ten dollars down or something, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I'll make sixty bucks, who cares, you know, or something
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: like that. But other than that, I have interest just
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: because I want to see Mungia where he's at and
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: how he handles this. I will say that that that's fair.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I don't understand the pay per
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: view if they're not fighting.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: No, this is I'm with you all the way, Chris.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: This this pay per view stuff for these fights is
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: just bad. Turkey's not delivering there. I mean, forget the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: bundle thing. I mean, you got poor you got poor
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: SAPs out there who are paying for DIZ owned subscriptions,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: and then they're supposed to put out pay per view
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: money for this.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing about his own is they're just
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: they had the most pay per views now and for
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: a while, we know the PBC had that and sometimes
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: they have too many of them. We still say that,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: but it's like I just don't I don't get it,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Like they they already charged the most out of any
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: streaming service in.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: America right by a long shot, by a long shot.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, what's really on there? And then
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: they're going to charge pay per view? I just and
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: then they make it such a big deal and he's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: putting his foot down like, oh, it's my goal to
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: make twenty five dollars pay per views except in the US,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: you know, Like okay, Like I don't know, it's just
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: it's just silly.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think people. I don't think people are going
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: to see that. I really in the US, and I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: know a lot of times, you know, British British listeners
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: and overseas people wonder what's going on here. I mean,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: I'll make my call on that. I don't I don't
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: think with the way where things are boxing in the
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: US right now, I don't think any of these fights
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: are selling this weekend. I mean, the inn a way,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: the monster hype, I mean, the guy hasn't been fighting
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: anybody lately. He's not fighting it. He's a minus five
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: thousand you know, in a way fighting in the US
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: is not a spin at this point that that makes
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: it a big deal when he's a minus five thousand
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: favorite over a guy and he's been fighting lesser opposition lately.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, him and Nakatani should just be fighting, period,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: you know, away right, I mean, notice our themes here.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: There are there are guys that just should be fighting
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: here that are not fighting each other, and then they're
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: asking you to, you know, pay a pay per view
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: premium for these fights. Doesn't mean you might not get
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: an upset, but not enough people are going to see
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: these fights in the US. It's and you know, these
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: every time you do that, it's missed opportunities because what
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: do you building up to. I mean again, it would
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: have to be that old playbook And I'm going to
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: report in on that from what I see around here,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: you know, next time we talk, because that really is
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: a big part of that. You know, that playbook, that
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: old playbook that they used to work. Like, yeah, if
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: they're going pay per view with these fights, I mean
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: they got to get ancillary publicity, you know, from from
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: New York metro media. And if they you know, they
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: do gain some what if they get that, but if
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: but if they don't get it and they're putting these
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: pay per view, there's just not going to be enough
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: exposure right here in the US. There's not going to
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: be enough. And I mean there's there's potential for US
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: sensibilities what they're doing because Canelo's fighting this weekend. You know,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: he's Mexican, but with all the time he spends in
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: the US and especially Mexican Mexican American fan base, you know,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: that's like a US sensibility guy. I mean, Haini, Garcia, Lopez,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: these guys are US sensibility guys. And and really with
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: what Turkey is doing with the heavyweights, if he would
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: do a better job of getting us exposure. I mean,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: I think people still want to see heavyweights back it out,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: but I just don't feel like a lot of people
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: in the US are frankly, are going to see any
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: of these fights this weekend. So boxing fans have to
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: kind of be re realistic and and keep perspective. The
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: side benefit I'm looking for is with the fights in
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: actually in Times Square, does do they start getting what
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: we call free media coverage? You know, because especially the
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: zone needs that because they don't own a TV network
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. So do they do they get
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: that out of this? I mean, if they if they
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: get that out of this, it might still be a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: win for him in the long haul, even though not
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: that many people pay for the pay per view. But
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: if they don't get that with with where I think
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: these pay per view numbers are going to be real
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: low for all the all these fights this weekend. You
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: know that that that's just more missed, the more missed opportunity,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: and and in a way against such a lesser opponent,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: that that's that's not doing anything for anybody at this point.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like if you're going to grow the zone
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: and you're not going to do a time by with
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Amazon or Basic Cable to show it or whatever. Right,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: then at least try to give like a free week
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: or a free month, a free trial something like, just
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: like build his own up, like it never got built up.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: The only time it was really that they were trying
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: fully was that first two twenty nineteen. And I remember
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: that fall when they had that string and this is
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: where there was no pay per views and they had
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: that string of fights and it was they had commercials.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: I saw during during a Fox broadcast for baseball. I
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: saw they had the before it became Peacock. It was
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the NBC Sports. They had like little uh, you know,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: the hype videos there, Like it just seems like, man,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna spend all this money, then why not
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: put it someplace or at least, like I said, build
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: up to dionne Brun because until his zone gets any
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: form of traction, it's just not gonna mean a damn thing. Right.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: And then they're also gonna buy paper. They don't know
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: the zone, but they're gonna go buy it. And then okay,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I saw this commercial today, John, Okay, I'm gonna go
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: to the site. Oh I can't buy it like it's
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: it's just like who, I don't know, it's it's just
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: it's just weird.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: It's just it is It's no, it's it's weird. There's
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: a there's a disconnect with US sensibilities. That's why I
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: keep talking about it. This weekend is the first one
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: of the only times that there's been a semblance of
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: US sensibilities.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: But it's we hear about the card coming, which looks
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: good and that type of thing, but once again, is
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: it gonna be paid for you or not?
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Right? And even in the US, I mean, which is
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: kind of not a bad idea with the name. I mean,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: like you know, it was it's been around so long,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: like there are like people that like know what the
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: ring is. It doesn't mean that they'd be like buying
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: boxing magazines all the time or anything, but like, you know,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: it's been in movies, you know, I mean going back
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: to the seventies, you know, and before even before the seventies,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: so you know movies, you know. Just I mean kind
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: of like people kind of know what what that is.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: They're using that as like a branding thing now. But
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: but the pay per view strategy and the broadcast strategy
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: is just completely out of whack.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, we'll see if that's gonna be a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: pay per view that card where they have where they
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: have some good fights on it with the Stevenson and
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Berlanga and Morrell and uh, what's the other Mattias. We'll
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: see if that's pay per viewer for that's just straight
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: up on the zone. I'm guessing it's pay per view.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: But at least it's in New York, I'll say that.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, like why, like I said,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: why not do a deal with the streaming service and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: have them get behind it or something, because otherwise I
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: think people really really think like Twitter's real life, you.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Know exactly right. That's that's what I'm trying to keep them, right,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: trying to perspective right, Mostly it's not you know right,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: that's like hardcore boxing people in their.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Own bubble, right exactly.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: That's what it is out there on X and like
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: like that, right, That's why I feel like you have
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: to kind of set them straight like that sometimes. I mean,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: in a way, fighting a guy who he's a minus
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: five thousand favorite just because it's in the US, you
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: know that that that's not registering and he we're in
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: the guys one hundred and twenty two pounder, you know Canelo,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know he's you know, his name's you
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: as Sensibility, but you know, fighting in Saudi Arabia and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: gets an unknown opponent, big favor even if there's a surprise,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: and you know the Mungi again when when you have
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: mungiasrace one is a huge upset. But it's it's just
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: a top rank ESPN broadcast, you know, and now now
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: it's on a pay per view platform. I mean, this
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: is the stuff that's just doesn't doesn't work, not enough,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: not enough exposure. So it's too bad. It's too bad
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: because you know, like and and you also see like
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: a like where you see you and I have talked
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: about this a lot, and really Friday's card is kind
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: of a perfect example. Like these these are like the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: types of fights that like top ranks should have been
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: leading up to where then they were on ESPN getting
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: a huge rating or something like it just would always
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: never happen mostly never happened. You know, you had like
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Lopez Tailor and Lowa Chanko Lopez. There was a couple
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: of exceptions here and there but not many, right, but
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: not enough, but like like it's it's like it's kind
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: of like this is what was being built towards that
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: should have happened with that ESPN deal. Yes, that's gonna
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: go away, and then instead.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: It's on this card.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: It's on this card.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: It's a good fight too, it's a very good fight. Yeah,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: I just it's just it is kind of funky, how
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: uh you know? And we keep hearing not only it's
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: gonna grow the he's gonna go the sport, he's going
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: to turn around the sport, but also we hear the
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: best fight and the best and all that. Well to me,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: and I said it right when these fight got announced.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: This is run of the mill boxing that we've seen
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: this before. This isn't you know, This isn't new, This
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: isn't different, This isn't a bud, This isn't the cards
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: he had prior or even that card in February. This
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: is run of the mill ship except we've already seen
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: these two fights and it should just be a rematch.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: We've seen though the mismatches the showcases to get to
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: a fight next that's a little different. But this isn't
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: that because it's it's on pay per view for one,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: like you said, and two they fought already so there's
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: no need to hype up it further. And then when
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: you if you get any hype, it's gonna go to
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Sadi anyway. So it's just I don't know.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Man, No, I think I think it happened even earlier
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: on You know, it's funny because totally separate entities and
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: styles and people involved in things like that. But if
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: if in showing a fair take, I think on the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: whole thing, like I see an accelerated mistake by Turkey
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: that PBC made but took a while. I thought PBC
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: battled harder and tried to do it, which which is like,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: you know, we know PBC went without mentioning the alphabets
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: for a year, and they did time buys on ESPN,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: you know, NBC, CBS at least at least they did
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: that rating, right, They did that for a year. They tried,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: they got resistance from competitors in the industry, and like
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Turkey got like one one bit of blowback from the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: WBC and he goes into complete collapse. I mean, like that,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: I got disgusted right there, and I see evidence of
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: that here as you're saying, Chris, like, you know, the guy,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: he got one little bit of blowback from the WBC,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: which in my opinion, he could have just steamrolled on me.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: He should have just brushed it off. And he rolls
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: and you know, now we're back to just what you're saying,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: like supposed fights that are leading up to things and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: already back to sticking in it. I mean, it's obvious
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: in boxing what's become the marketing is and fans are
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: stupid like this frankly, so they need to wake up,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: Like even hardcore is like take a fight that's not
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: that good and stick an alphabet belt on it, stick
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: some kind of alphabet belt. Right, there's unification, it's it's
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: under it's it's this one's undisputed. Like you know Skull,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: it's undisputed. They gave him the ib so now it's disputed,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: and Duboi it's it's undisputed now when he's fighting Duba again,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: oh six, fighting Duboa again because the IBF gave him
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: a belt, like but it's but then it's all it's
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: other crap fights that then they stick an alphabet belt
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: on and make it or make it for some bacon alphabet,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: you know, like, you know, now Zis is going to
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: fight some guy we've never heard of, because they're gonna
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: strip Fundora, you know, like, And I don't blame at
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: all PBC for putting Fondora and Zoo together again, you talk, Yeah,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: I did. Like I said, if I would, I applied
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: it to all promoters. Look, yeah, exactly, they're gonna listen.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: If it makes sense for them, They're gonna listen, right
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: the alphabets to do it. But if it doesn't make
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: sense for them, and I don't blame them, then they're
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: not gonna care about the alphabet thing. They're gonna drop it.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: You know. It's funny. I saw people basically what you're
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: talking about to complaining, Like I really wanted to see
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: that fight because it led to undisputed.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: Right right.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, there was a lot of
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: work to do to get undisputed. In fact, you can
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: make an argument that you can create a linear well,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: first of all, you have a lineal, But if you
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: can create a new lineal without the belts all together, actually.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: So exactly, that's what you gotta get back to. That's
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: that's what boxing's lost because even the networks used to
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: be willing to promote that, and you know now it's
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: just alphabet everything and and and and it's.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: It's just because of the belt. And it's like, so
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: you think tim zoan fandor is not a fun fight
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: now just right, not for that belt. It's still for
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: a belt, like who gives a ship?
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Like exactly, Like you know, I mean, anybody in the
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: right mind doesn't think who's sick's the heavyweight champion right now?
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: I mean there there is no dispute just because an
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: alphabet gives D bell. Yeah, that's not a dispute. That's
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: not a legitimate dispute.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: You know, it's Yeah, it says it right there, right, undisputed. Right,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: there's no dispute. That's a great way to put it.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: You are a lawyer, sir.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: I always look at it that way, and a lot
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: of people don't get it, Like what are you talking about, Like,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: no dispute the definition of it if it's it's disputed
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: that that that you know, you're clearing it up. There's
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: there nobody, nobody with a brain thinks to base the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: heavyweight champion in the world.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no dispute at all.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: I mean USAK knocked him out the last time. I mean,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: you know, recently recently, you know, so there is no
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: dispute at all. And yeah, then then right fans like, oh,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: I'm annoyed that there that you know that w B
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: l O bells going to be there for the zoo door.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, who cares? Who cares? Who cares? You know,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't blame PPC for that, but I
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: and I think like Herky got a little bit of
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: the resistance that PBC was get and and frankly, he
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: rolled over much earlier.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't even from the press, right, it
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: was from one video of him pushing out a belt
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: And that's right, And what the hell, dude, you didn't
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: get a year of misinformation at you. You didn't get
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: a year of such a bullshit from the some of
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: the top media members in boxing, like.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: Right, wild, it is exactly like And that's where I
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: got really disappointed what he's doing, because you know, you know,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: I was trying to be optimistic about it, but it
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: was exactly what you said, Like, he does the right
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: thing and pushes out a WBC bell and he gets
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: some blowback from the w B seeing some dumb fans. Frankly, yeah,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: he caves in immediately and he's he's having WBC Grand
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: Prixx and stuff, you know.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and where the hell I couldn't even really
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: I checked out some and like, yeah, you know it
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: really it's still even then with guys just starting out.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: It still depends who you get because like the fights
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: I was seeing, the guys had good records, and then
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: I was watching them fight and I was like, these
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: guys can't even make a good fight because they're not
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: that good, you know, So like who's gonna sit there?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: You know, who's gonna sit there through days of that?
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: I mean nobody, Yeah, three days.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Not even boxing fans. I felt sorry for the compets.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, give me something that like if I got kidnapped, and.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: I was just it was a lot at all these
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: weird times that I heard like, you know, BARRD. Jones,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: what British cogitator? You know, I think he's pretty good,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: and uh, I thought that this is Barry Jones. This
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: has got to be like torture for here all day,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: just like doing these fights, fight after fight, you know.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Doing the clock or an orange therapy, you know, with
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: the right.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: So you know that that's kind of becoming my new test.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: Like what it's where it's not even enjoyable or fun
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: for me to watch as a fan or a follower
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: or historian and it feels like a chore, Then then
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: something's wrong, because what's that going to be like for
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: for some casual person.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: You know, waiting for the fighter to fight right five
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: hours later? You know, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of interesting. Any other items that you'd like to talk
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: about or you know, obviously we missed a couple of weeks.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: If there's any any kind of thing you want a
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: nutshell or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, yeah, trying to trying to think over oh,
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: you know, and has had a good performance against Stannie.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, very very responsible, very under control.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, got them, you know, surprising how how
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: how easy he was able to handle them. I mean
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: you could see you know, Stanionis could couldn't even he
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: just just couldn't even take the shots and do his
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: usual coming forward you know. So that was a that
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: was a really you know, that was a really good uh,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: that was a really good performance by by Nis. So
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: that was that was something worthy of no, and then
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: just you know, I I do like I actually like
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: du Bois. I just think, forget the right, forget the
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: undisputed stuff though, you know, forget trying to sell it
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: in the US as a pay per Viewnion. We need
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: to see more creativity here with what they're doing. I mean,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's already a ad marketing start,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: like the fight I like, but it's just not the
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: right it's just not off to the right start marketing wise.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: And I don't have any confidence that you know, they're
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: going to have a non pay per view in the
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: US and try at least pick up some viewers.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now I hear that. It's just especially in the summer,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: like that's the time by time if you think about
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: it for sports, because there's not you know, you got baseball,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: you get some stuff going on, but you could time
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: buy some ship, that's for sure, and you could draw
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: attention when no, you know, when not a lot of
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: stuff's going on. So yeah, we'll see, you know, what
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: comes up. But I do like that fight. I love
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: that it's in Wen Lisa. You know the crowd's going
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: to come out and you know, hey, Daniel.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: You never know, you never get old. I mean even
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: for him, you know, nobody can nobody can go on forever.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: And guys what thirty eight and mean now if to
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: block can get back to the body, you know, exactly
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: like he did in that last fight. And we know
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: there have been moments where Usik does seem to have
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: trouble taking it down there as opposed to some others.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: If there's one weakness he's shown, that really could be it.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: So we'll see. I mean, you know, but but I
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: do again, even though it's a rematch, I like that fight.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dubois done enough lately and you Buss legitimately
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: at the top of the mountain and he is the champ.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, you know, Dubois. Some people
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: talking Parker, but but d what even though he thought
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: usick once already he deserved dub deserves a shot as
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: much as anybody right now, which what he's with what
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: he's done lately. So yeah, I don't because you know
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: Parker on that run, yeah, a good run. But you
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: know Pacola on short notice. I mean, Wilder and Zang
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: are old, you know, I mean, yeah, I know where
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: they were ranked. I get all that. You know, I
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: get that the performances were good, but still, you know,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: I think I think what Dubois has done lately, he
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: deserves it as much as anyone. So and I think personally,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: I think a rematch with Dubois is actually more interesting
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: than Usik Parker. I think I just think it's a
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: better fight. So because he's got that power, right, Dubla
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: is younger and he's got that power. So and and
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: you know, he had him hurt in the first fight
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: with that body shot, so you know, it's not like
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: he wasn't able to put any hurt on him. So yeah,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: I do. I do like that one. I just I
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: keep going with the steam. But I think it matters.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: There's there's just gotta be more sense of us sensibilities
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: with with marketing these fights that they're putting together, not
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: having him not pay per view, and and and uh,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: you know where they're more accessible, because that's the problem.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: If you just put it on his own it's not
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: accessible either.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: And then one last question, that picture of you looks
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: like like up high is that West Virginia or Pennsylvania?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: That is West Virginia on the top of You're correct,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: that's at the top of a building. So my video
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: beat in the dark with the power of so bad,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: I realized I could have my stock picture up.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: And I can see those bluffs. John, So I figured
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: it as West Virginia.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's uh. That is standing on top of one
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: of the taller buildings, uh in Charleston, West Virginia with
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: the mountains the city and the mountains in the background there.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks nice.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: You identify that correctly. That is on top of a building.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Nice, all right, John, And well it is nice talking
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: to you, and uh, hopefully we'll talk next week. But
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: either way, hopefully you get your power back and all
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: that good stuff.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Chris, enjoy talking with you and I'll
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: talk to you soon.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: All right. You take it easy, take care, Yeah, all right.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: So my quick thought Skull. You know, as a boxing fan,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: I always want to see competitive fights. So I don't
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: want to I don't like the fight. And a lot
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: of it has to do with he needs to fight Benavitez.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: But it's not so like dump on Skull. But you know,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have the power, like like John said, lacks
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: the power. You know, he a couple of things. He's
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: got a why he can box on the outside. Let's see,
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: if you know Canelo, at times he'll cut off the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: ring really well, other times not as much. But it's
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: not like this dude's Arislandi Lara with the footwork. But
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: he's got a he's got a wide stance. He leaves
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: himself wide open and he kind of falls forward where
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: he'll jab in his other Hand's just wild, you know.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: But up close I did notice watch I've seen two
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: or three of his fights that he up close he
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: will put up the high guard. Another thing I mentioned
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: though as far or another thing I see from watching
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: him is like he actually puts himself in trouble near
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: the ropes. He moves a lot, and he he can
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: jab off the move and all that. He's a skilled
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: fighter to an extent, it's just a lack of power.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: And then if you're like helping Canelo cut the ring off,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: if you keep running yourself in the bad spots of
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: the ring, whether it's the corner on the ropes. So
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be an issue. I think that's
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be an issue Barbosa, you know, I think his
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: style is a little tricky for Tia Femo. You know,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: he has the outside boxing ability blended with volume punches, right,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: and as we know, tayl likes it when a fighter
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: comes to him, he can really show a lot of
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: his skills. But when he has to go hunt somebody
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: down that can counter punch, that can move pretty well
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: on the outside, that has pretty good defense, that has volume,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: it could get a little weird. Now, I think Tayo
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Fio is gonna win the fight. I that's I have.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: I have one bet down so far, honestly speaking, and
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: that is by decision Tail Fema Lopez f A. You know,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: I think the jab and the one two with the
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: lateral movement, it just needs to be consistent. You can
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: fight at range, you can use that lateral movement. But
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: like John was saying, don't try to box too much.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: Use the jab, you got it, but throw the throw
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: the other stuff with it, and you might as well
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: because but Koli he's got this weird accurate punch where
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: he can even kind of adjust it while he's throwing it.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: And that's what we saw in that. You know, Jared
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Anderson fight where he'll and when he does hit you,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: you stay hit. You know, to use an old term
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: you do stay hit. I'm gonna put some money on
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: fa but I think Bacoley, given he's an even like
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: above average shape, not tip top. I think he'll win,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: but I think it's worth putting money down on it,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: like you know, like he said, like John said, and
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: then Mungia, I think you'll get over it. But I
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: am interested to see him. Also, body of jack, what
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: does he have left? I'm gonna pick him as a
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: slight underdog. I actually I forgot I have him as
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: a plus one thirty. I do have that, bet I
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: forgot to mention that. But I think he'll win. But
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a good fight. That's actually closer match
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: technically then the the other fight we're talking about tale
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Fema Lopez at Barbosa. Is Barbo's worth putting something on
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: if you can. The highest I see on Caesar's is
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: plus one ninety five, see a lot of plus one
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: eighty plus Ofanduel has plus one ninety four. You know
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: it's okay. I do think it's tricky for him. The
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Taylo may not look great in this fight. Ryan Garcia
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: Roi Rollie probably will do something decent like land some punches,
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: but he's gonna get knocked out by Ryan Garcia left hook.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: Obviously Devin Hany's jab. When it comes to Ramirez fight,
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: I think the jab is gonna win him the fight.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: To reach the jab the way he can keep people
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: off of him. But there is the early part of
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: that fight, maybe the whole first part. What John and
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: some others have said is he can rush you with
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: the jab to Ramiro and he can land a left hook.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: You know. The thing about Haini is he does get
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: punched with similar or exactly saying punches, and that happened,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: go back to that Lenaries fight. That's to me, that's
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: a little troubling if you keep getting It's one thing
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: to get hit by the jab, right if you're orthodox,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a left jab. You know, That's just
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: that's different. But there is something to be said about it.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: And Ramiro's is pretty good on the inside, so now
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: not great as we saw in the Tailor fight. Taylor
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: was much better on the inside than him. But then
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: it's not like Devin's right on the inside. I guess,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: so I guess there is that flashback from a year
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: ago thing. It's actually a little over a year ago.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: Isn't it a little flashback on that to where if
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: he finds himself in a little trouble or if he
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: did get dropped, could there be some mental thing going on?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Little mental block maybe? But I just think the jab,
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: the handspeed. For the most part, I think Ramirez is
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: maybe not as custom made as as Roly as for
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: for Ryan, but I do think he to an extent
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: is the styles built pretty good for him to be
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: able to keep him off them with that that really
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: great job. And when he does blend the left hook
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: or go to the body or just throw two punch combo,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: maybe even the three punch combos sometimes kind of like
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: what he was doing against Cambo's's different fight though obviously,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: especially in the second one. I just think Devin's just
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: gonna keep in that range enough and he's you know,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: the clinch is gonna come in handy. Let's put it
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: that way. Let's see here, uh And McKenna I did
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: kind of not talk about that. He it was one sided.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: There really wasn't many rounds you give him. Let's see
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: where McKenna goes from here. Now, the Fandora thing, he
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: dropped the WBO, they couldn't come to terms he's gonna
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: fight Tim Zoo. According to Coppinger, I think it's cop.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of cop, but this is
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: where I saw it first. That according to him, he
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: said that there's some so the rematch set for the summer.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Keith Thurman Zoo was playing for Australia before Zoo exercises.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Remot rematch closet could be triggered before and after Fandora's
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: first titled the Ouch first title defence. Thurman lands shot
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: at a winner at the winner, That's what he tweeted.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: So you know, I like that fight, you know, I
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: do like that fight. I think it's a great fight
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: tim Zu. And and I think tim Zu he triggered it,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: you know, for from Doris. So why not you know,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the fight whatsoever. And
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a good fight. Now it's gonna
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: be on pay per view. From the sounds of it,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: they better hook up the under cart and you know,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: will Thurman be on the under car where they try
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: to get him a fight and then do it that way?
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: But I did see, you know, for instance, uh Seanztzel right,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: he said lame was looking for to Zias fight big time.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: I thought PBC Top Rank were seriously or serious about
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: working together. Uh, Tim was set to face Thurman and
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: all that build up for what feels like a move
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: just to avoid making the ziaz fight a fight. A
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: lot of people believe Fandora wins. Well, Tim Zoo sounds
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: like he's the one who did it, So wouldn't that
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: haven't nothing to do with Fondora about as far as
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: you know, because that's a contract that's not hooked to
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: a belt. This is a contract that he has a
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: rematch clause too, So like it just feels like a
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: move to avoid the Zaias fight. Eh, I don't know,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that one. I
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: don't think he's duck on him either, because I had
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: Fandora beating Zias and honestly, I think I personally think
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: still even though you know he had a rough spot,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: there no doubt I still think that. You know, I
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: like Tim Zuo over sanders Aias too. I like zion Is,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: But whatever it is, what it is. Honestly, the guy
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: he's fighting coming off a nice win, like that's not
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: a bad fight for him in my opinion. Now, is
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: you know, is it a great fight? No, But I
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: mean he's in the top ten, so it's it's still
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: a top ten fight. So that's not a bad fight
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: that he'd get. You know, it's not a bad fight
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: that Xander's gonna get. So to me, that's no big deal.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: Or hey, what was it a Jorge Garcia Perez, the
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: guy who just won over Conwell, so he really he
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: really messed that up. Anyway, Let's go over some more
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: fight news a little bit, a little bit. Chavez is inactive. Well,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: we'll go boxing Twitter in fight news, Chavez is inactive.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: Chavez has just left rehab, has lost to Silva. He's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: thirty nine, perfect opponent for J. Paul. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I gotcha.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: I also got a message about someone saying that I
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: was hyping up the Manny backy out being on Amazon.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: I wasn't hyping it up. I've always said that I
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: wish Manny would just walk away. We saw him against
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: MUGAs not look good. Didn't we see him in that
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: exhibition not look good too. He needs to give it up.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: But this is the sport and Brios he'd be sating,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: you know, why not take that fight. If he wins
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: that fight, he probably could get a Spence fight. So
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: I don't mind it. The key thing that I was highlighting,
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: as long as it stays that way, is that it
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: was going to be on Amazon, straight up, no pay
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: per view. So if Amazon's getting behind it because they
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: think they have a name to sell, now that name.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: I even said it when I talked about it, The
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: name is not the name it was even when he
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: fought Furman. It's just not or Ugos. You know, It's
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: just not he was supposed to fight Spence. It's not
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: the same name. It's clearly not the same the further
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: you go back, it was bigger. So but it's still
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: a name. It's still a name, and there if they
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: get behind it and build a nice card around it,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: it does make sense, especially for Barrios and also for
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: the undercard and fighters, right and who knows, maybe there's
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: a great undercard fight and they put it on free
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: Amazon the rematch or at headlines something, or maybe it
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: does a good enough number where they think, you know what,
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: let's I don't think they'd ever put Spence and Barrios
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: on free unless that did a crazy number in Barrios,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: you know, won the fight cleanly or something. Then may
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: you know whatever gets Amazon to do something just on
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: their platform and not a pay per view. Maybe I
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say whatever, but you know what I mean, Like
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: it's that's why I was okay with the potential that
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: Netflix was gonna have Jake Baum Kanelo on it, And
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm really excited potentially that Netflix might have
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  Speaker 1: Canelo and Crawford on it. That would be insane, that
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  Speaker 1: would be phenomenal for boxing. Well, Chris w here, Chris
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  Speaker 1: rob Will boxing seen denied credentials for Saudi in the ring.
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  Speaker 1: That's just fucking sinator. If the sinister, if the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the journalists had any backbone, they'd stand up for him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean sinister. I don't know about that obviously boxing
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  Speaker 1: scene that the owner of that had an issue or
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  Speaker 1: has a little bit of an issue, I should say
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  Speaker 1: with with Turkey, not to say he's got an individual
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of issues with him, but you know, they
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  Speaker 1: had that little spat online or whatever, and I always
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  Speaker 1: think it's bullshit as long as like a reporter didn't
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  Speaker 1: go way out of hand and make it about him
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  Speaker 1: rather than covering the sport him or her making about
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  Speaker 1: the sport and just making about themselves instead. And they
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: did some wild crazy shit or said something at a
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: press conference that's just like, dude, what you know, or
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  Speaker 1: some racist shit or something like that. Other than that, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you should be banned from it for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, I really don't. I did. I did,
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  Speaker 1: like brunch Boxing talking about that Brian Norman. They had
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: already reported that Brian Norman fight, and Dan Rafael came
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  Speaker 1: over and gave him a bunch of shit, saying that
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: it's far from it's just the language you use in
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  Speaker 1: your in your tweet, it's it's it's ridiculous and all
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  Speaker 1: this stupid shit because you know, the old media is
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  Speaker 1: starting to get a little they're shaking in their boots
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  Speaker 1: a little bit from the up and comers and especially
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. Fight came together, agreed to and got signed
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  Speaker 1: in record time. I guess was the brunch boxing account.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like, come on, dude, like damn, just shut
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  Speaker 1: the fuck up. Please. Here's Adam from sn boxing. He
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: said he was tweeting at his own imagine that people
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: wanted to buy the pay per view and it's not
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  Speaker 1: available on the app. Then imagine you publicize this pay
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  Speaker 1: per view one million times in the last two weeks
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  Speaker 1: and don't even tell people the steps the need to
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  Speaker 1: buy this, and what world does that make sense? I mean,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: you know, and I did see other people with the
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  Speaker 1: same problem. Now I didn't have that problem. I will
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  Speaker 1: say that I got a question, is you bang been
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  Speaker 1: the fight of the year? I don't think it's the
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  Speaker 1: fight of the year, but it's up there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think benavide Is and Morel was better. I think
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  Speaker 1: the Pitbull Fierro fight to rog Like, there's better fights.
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  Speaker 1: There's better fights. There's definitely better fights. So that's just
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  Speaker 1: my personal opinion. Oh here's someone sent me this message
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  Speaker 1: from a screenshot that took from just a dude who's
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: whatever just anti PBC to be that British boxing is
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  Speaker 1: on a whole other league than American boxing. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of what this dude's actually from here.
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  Speaker 2: Ice.
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  Speaker 1: I think ux boxing can't even come close to the
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  Speaker 1: type of crowd and this isn't even for a title.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, boxing a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: can be the second biggest sport in the UK. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have the same competition as it does here. We
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  Speaker 1: know you would both of us had football football football, right,
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  Speaker 1: but then what's the second in the third and the fourth,
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  Speaker 1: and then the entertainment and all sorts of shit. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean that's your first thing. Like you're acting
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  Speaker 1: like we haven't had stadium fights at all though, Like
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  Speaker 1: I would just be appreciative of what I got over there.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great thing. And I'm like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: let it with with this this thing because it's like
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy that the you know, as an American fan,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy the UK is getting these stadium fights, just
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: like I want most of those fights that can sell here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to be here, not in Saudi. Some of
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: them in Saudi. Sure, you know, we know both BiVO
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  Speaker 1: and a Turby. If that fight wasn't gonna get made,
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  Speaker 1: there wasn't money in the fight. Cool, send it wherever
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  Speaker 1: the fuck you want. You can send it to Pluto,
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  Speaker 1: you know whatever. I have heard, well, Tyson Fury's talking
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  Speaker 1: about a fight with Anthony Joshua and that would be great,
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  Speaker 1: especially if it was here, you know, or not here,
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  Speaker 1: but in the UK. I did see Keith Idac say
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  Speaker 1: the contract to Catchwaight for Devin Haney and Jose Ramirez
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  Speaker 1: fight Friday night. Times Square is one hundred and forty four.
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  Speaker 1: There was initially some confusion because the first bout agreement
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: received Ramirez received list of this as at one forty seven.
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  Speaker 1: They clarified the true weight limit soon thereafter, so that
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  Speaker 1: is something to think about. I don't think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: affect either guy too much. The same dude who talked
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: about that, you know, the US going to do this
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: is Ryan the the future face of boxing meeting Ryan Arcia.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I saw this from Teams Sports
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: on the brunch boxing. The credit went the TMZ, but
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: I saw him a brunch boxing shots out to Madden Everybody.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: Ezra and manham Waite prospect Floyd Diaz was arrested in
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: Vegas uncharges the possession of a stolen vehicle carrying a
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: concealed weapon without a permit. Ouch uh suck Canelo. Canelo
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: said he said that Skull is a great fighter, but
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: he don't want to fight Bena Vetez. I guess he's
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: not great enough for him. Canelo also said that he
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: would love the opportunity to revenge his loss against Floyd
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: maywe her. Obviously we know it's not gonna happen, but yes,
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  Speaker 1: I would love to get rid of that little thorn.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he would. I'm sure he would. What else
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: we got here, Yeah, the whole like Fundora of course,
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: that the the usual suspects we're talking about. Well not at all. Actually,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: there was a couple of people that I was a
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: little surprised that they called from door Duncan Xander Zaiaz
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: when he was when he's already got a fight lined
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  Speaker 1: up with tim Zu. So I know tim Zu got
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  Speaker 1: knocked out, but like, you know, I don't see Zaia
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  Speaker 1: is knocking out tim Zu. So if you're gonna if
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  Speaker 1: he just didn't do anything and it just didn't fight,
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  Speaker 1: you know, or fought way lesser opponent, yeah, then I
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: would be like, what the fuck, dude, But he he's
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  Speaker 1: fighting tim Zu. So I don't really think you know,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: Ziaz Orge Gars see his Perez, that's two bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the top ten, like from six to ten. That that's fine,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: that's a good fight for them. I mean, I'm not
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not like hyping it up. That's a
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: great fight, but it's not. I don't know I just
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: don't see it as a duck if he didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a backup plan, or if you know, if it was
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: Spence or something like Tim Zuo. You know, it's Tim
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: Zoo or Spence or somebody solid, even though we don't
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  Speaker 1: know what's left to Spence, but that would be a
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: money fight. And plus we also don't know the negotiations,
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: you know, what were they what were they expecting? But
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: then you could say, well, like you just win the
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: purse bit, but when they would they have to overpay
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: just to win the piss purse bid, So we don't
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: know how the negotiations went either. And then we hear about,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: you know, the before and after after the first defense
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: fandor just had that you know that he Tim Zuo
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: exercised the clause, So how can you duck when it's
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: exercise the clause? Paul Magno said, just overheard another conversation
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: down here in Mexico wondering why Canelos not fighting on
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: sync of a mile. It's not a good sign. It's
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: not a good sign. Okay, I think I'm gonna shut
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  Speaker 1: this puppy down. Enjoy the fights. We'll be back next week.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: I'll try to make it on a Tuesday