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S3 E31: Style Points Be Damned · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Fifteen de crazy. You can see you breath out in the lake effect,
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Breacon tables and guitar. Would you wheres would you have to be? And
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to Ron Elvis in the lay, Panchow remembers that you need to know I
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won't you out here? Now? Your family? Where's would you have to
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be? Where else? Would you be? Welcome into the Nickel City Crew.
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Buffalo bills and NFL content Again today, and as always, these are my
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Bill's thoughts set out loud. He survives so ridiculous? Two was sick the
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show? God collect us? Where's would you like to be? All right,
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let's get straight to it. Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, nicol
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City Crew. We are back again. I'm really excited about tonight's episode as
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always, because the season is wrapping up the regular season and it's you know,
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the playoff picture is in focus You're starting to see the scenarios and where
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you're gonna play and different types of matchups, and what happens if this team
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wins, and what happens if this team wins or loses in it, and
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the picture itself is starting to become a lot more clear. And I'm really
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excited about these final two regular season games and then obviously the playoffs that will
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come afterwards. If everything goes according to plan, it's almost a near lock,
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and we actually can clinch next week in week seventeen, before we even
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have to play Miami technically, if a few things fall our way. So
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joining me tonight writing Shotgun as always my co host Adam dump Truck Repsick.
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Check them out on Instagram at Adam Rupsick. Are you p c Zyk at
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the Crew DT? Click clack, We're back. Marry Christmas, Happy New
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Year? Coming up? What's good man? How let the crew DT?
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New City? What's up? Rob? We're back? We love it,
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I love it. At a great Christmas weekend. Good holiday. Hope you
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and your family you know, did as well, and everybody out there and
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the crew hope it was well. And we bring in the new year right.
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New Year's ease, getting ready to rock and roll. So you know,
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in the in the holiday season, you kind of for I guess you
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don't forget because it happens every year, but you know, this is the
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heat of the season, baby, this is what we play for. This
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is what it all kind of comes down to. And you know, a
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few short weeks ago we're talking in the teams, you know, percentage wise,
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and now it's you know, well over ninety so done our job up
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until now. Let's let's finish the job. Yeah, let's finish strong for
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sure, because you have two games for braining it in. It's kind of
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all laid out in front of us. Again. The Bills will go up
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against New England on Sunday the regular season home finale, and then again traveled
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to South Beach to face the Miami Dolphins week eighteen for the last game of
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the year. And it's funny because there was some scenarios I saw out there
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DT where if we win and take care of business on Sunday in the home
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finale, I mean, we could get another home game. I saw some
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scenarios when we could get the two seed if we beat Miami and some other
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things go the right way next week in week eighteen. So not trying to
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jump ahead of or anything like that, but it's been very exciting just watching
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and seeing the different permutation, seeing how everything is kind of fitting together,
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and it's almost like a puzzle. And now it's starting to become a little
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bit clearer, and the Bills should be in the playoffs. I mean,
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as long as we don't stumble. There's even a chance that if we lose
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to New England we could still make the playoffs. But I don't even want
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to think about that. But before we get to that, we'll wrap up
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on Saturday nights Game DT because it was an interesting one and I know that
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we had talked about it. That's why I labeled the actual episode the way
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that I did, was because we had talked about it last week. That
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we're not really into the style points thing anymore. At this time of year.
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However, it's okay to be, you know, critical, and it's
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okay to kind of look and take a thirty thousand foot view Bill's win twenty
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four to twenty two over the La Chargers in Sofi Stadium, and it was
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a it was tougher than we thought it was going to be. DT.
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I know for sure, I was expecting, you know, at least that
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that coach bump to wear off by first series, second series or something like
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that. Easton Stick did not look Bill will did. He wasn't fumbling the
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ball or anything like he was that week prior. And they looked okay.
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I mean they they were in the lead. I mean they they had a
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lead on the Bills late in the game. So you give them full marks
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there for showing up and being professionals and playing that game DT, because they
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had they had me nervous a little bit in the fourth quarter. I wouldn't
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be lying if I told you I wasn't. They dominated the game, Rob,
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I mean they did us in the turnover battle. They beat us some
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time of possession, they beat us some first downs, you know, all
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the things you kind of strive to do to make a textbook victory. They
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did. And you know, with the better team prevailed and we made the
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plays down the stretch we needed to. But it didn't come easy. You
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know, a slow start, and we've seen it from this team a lot
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home and away, more so away, you know than home recently. But
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when they go over to Jet and when they go over to England. Granted,
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you know, LA isn't an England trip, but still a time difference,
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still a lot going on, you know, and you kind of got
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to go get adjusted over there, and you're playing on a short week at
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night, you know, everything's kind of different. And they came out and
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really stuck it to us. And granted, we made some good plays down
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the stretch to get it done, but credit to the Chargers. Man.
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If if that was a better team, you know, I think we would
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have been in some trouble. But you know, it wasn't. And and
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as Josh said it two weeks ago, you know in that Kansas City when
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surviving advance and you know that's what they're doing. This team is playoff mentality
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right now, getting it done, chopping them off one at a time.
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And boy did we need that one. It really would have stunk for the
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Christmas season to go in and day all day eating Kochies, eating prime rib
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on Christmas Eve and you know, cheering for games to happen when they wouldn't
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have mattered really if the Bills would have lost that one. So they saved
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Christmas. Yeah, the Bills did save Christmas on that one because it would
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have been absolutely horrific. You're you're absolutely right about that, and had they
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not pulled out that game, And that's kind of what I came away with
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it. That's why I labeled the episode of the way that I did that.
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Just you know, the style points are cool. They make us feel
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cozy and fun and nice and warm, but they really don't matter at this
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point in time of the year. Now, yes, you do want to
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be playing your best football going into the playoffs, and I understand that whole
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premise, and I agree with that you do want to be playing your best
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football. However, there is a level of NCAA tournament March madness to this
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time of year of DT as you spoke to, and it's just the style
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points are fun, but it's not anything that I can lean back on at
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this point in time because I really don't care. I just want the Bills
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to keep playing. We've got six games left if you include the playoffs to
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get you know, a Super Bowl, right, and it's gonna be tough
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to do it, and I understand that this may not be the year that
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everybody thought that they would get it done. However, it's an opportunity that's
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in front of us. Either way. I mean, whether you believe it
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or you don't believe it. The players need to believe it. The players
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need to understand that they have a great opportunity in front of them and nothing
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is going to be given to them. I think that they are in that
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playoff mode, DT. I think that you spoke to that correctly. They
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are. It seems like they're locked in on that. They understand that this
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is it. There's no really wiggle room or anything like that at this point
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in time, and they're they're treating each game as such. So because of
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that, I'm interested to see what you thought about the offense and going forward,
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DT, because do we need to be concerned about this old stuff on
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Digg's thing. I know that everybody's just waiting like he's a powder kick and
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they're just waiting for him to blow up. And he's not gonna I keep
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telling everybody, he's not going to blow up. He's not going to embarrass
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himself. He already said everything that he had to say in the offseason.
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He's been a great captain, a wonderful leader for this team, and I
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think that everybody is just waiting for him to blow up. I do think
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that he's okay if he's not involved getting catch as long as we're winning.
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It will be a problem if we don't win some games and he wasn't feeling
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like he was involved in the offense. Do you see anything to it?
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Is there anything that we need to be concerned about? Gabe Davis pops back
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up last week. I mean for the first time in weeks and weeks,
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and I know Dalton Kinkate is kind of cooled off DT. What are you
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thinking about the offense, the weapons as we go into these final two games?
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Because I know that it's going to be important. It's been a topic
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that I've heard on gr all week long about Stefan Diggs and his temperament and
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is he going to be okay with this going forward? Yeah, you said
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it. I mean if if they were losing and he wasn't getting targeted,
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to be different because he would be pissed because he thinks he's the best shot,
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you know, for us to win games, right, That's why he
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has that passion about him. And every time you've ever seen him blow up
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on the sideline, it was because you know, a loss situation. It
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wasn't when we were winning and he was crying for targets or anything like that.
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And that's the notion, this this narrative in the media that everybody wants
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and everyone needs, you know, the Eagles game, they were like showing
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him on the sideline over and over and over again, waiting for him to
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waiting for him to blow up. And he was the he was the most
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concent teammate, getting in everyone, getting ready to go, getting ready to
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rock. And if they were losing, it'd be a different story. I
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think he would be getting a little more hyped up. But because he thinks
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he would help them win, right and they're winning and he's not getting one
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hundred yards a game, but he's still leading the team in targets, still
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leads the team in receptions. He had five catches the other night, Gave
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Davis only had four, you know, so they he did have the most
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receptions on the team. It was only for twenty nine yards, but a
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few of them were really big catches. And we say it's a game of
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inches. And the Jacksonville game, we really saw a few tips here and
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there didn't go our way, and you know, and it led to you
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know, getting down in this case, the same type of deal that that
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one Alan missed to Diggs over the middle. Digs probably had an eighty yard
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run after that. There was nobody past the corner and he just kind of
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threw it over him on that third down. And that's a couple of inches.
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Diggs has over one hundred you know, has one hundred and thirty yards
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in that game. And and we and we still probably only you know,
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we win by a touchdown or two or whatever it is, and it's still
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in the same boat. So Margins everyone enough to know that, you know,
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he's our best receiver on the team, he's our leader on the team.
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But if we're winning, who cares. But I think we've proven it
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that if we do need to, you know, just strictly start going to
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him and feed them, they can do it. Oh yeah. Josh even
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alluded to it after the game and said that he thought he made the biggest
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play on that one third down to kind of ice the game. And I
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mean, we know that Josh will throw to him. We know that that.
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You know, he said, when game is on the line, fourteen's
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my guy. And everybody, he said, I think everybody in the league
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knows that. And I do think the opponents know that, and they understand
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that they've been doing, you know, their own version of bracket coveraging and
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do different things like that, trying to force other guys to beat them.
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And I understand that whole philosophy. I just wanted to get your thoughts on
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it because I know that it's a little buzz topic and it's just it's just
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funny to be I love you know, I love Diggs, and we've been
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some of his biggest staunchest defenders, and I just yes, they are.
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They're waiting. They want him to do something. They want to be able
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to feed into that narrative that this guy is a male content of some sort,
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and I just don't see it that way. They did the the you
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know, the Buffalo bills behind the scenes, and you hear him talking to
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Josh Allen at the end of the game. He's telling you that you're good,
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We're gonna win the game, and things like that. And again,
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it's always like Diggs is the steadying presence for seventeen seventeen needs him so much
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more than people even realize because of the fact that he keeps everything steady.
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In that respect, he brings the energy and the juice to start the game
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gets everybody riled up again. We talked about it, who was ready to
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go out and that tomorrow Hamblin game, it was Stefan Diggs who was trying
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to rally the troops. Had the you know, the Bills had to come
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back out and play that game. So he's always seems to have his pulse
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on the finger of the team, especially the offense. And you know,
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it'll be interesting to see because as long as we win, I think that
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this you know, you're not gonna hear anything all the way to a parade,
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and that's fine for me as well. Now switch its sides to the
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to the defense DT. I mean, you know, we talked about it
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a little bit last week, but you know, Sean mcdermery's defense is holding
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up and now we've got maybe some more great Christmas presents with with your boy
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dayDay coming back. I mean, you know, he's in this twenty one
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day window, he's practicing, he's trying to do what he can do to
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get back on the field. What kind of shot in the arm would it
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be for Decon Jones to get back before the season is out, Because I
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think that it's it's kind of trending towards we should see him at least from
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Miami. Maybe not, maybe not Sunday against you know, the Patriots,
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but I think I think we'll see him in my in South Beach Man.
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It's looking like it, you know, when it's been quiet on the on
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the western front there or the Eastern front, if you will overhear it.
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I'm not saying I'm a chefer insider or anything, but I do know I
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have my finger on the pulse in this situation a little more than others.
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And sure since that sense the injury, it was kind of quiet in the
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Bills organization, and it was quiet with with Jones as well. I mean
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I I reached out to my boy cav a few times, like yo,
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as the quant said anything, is he coming back? What's the deal?
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And He's like, nah, he's been ghosts since you know, Saint Jacksonville.
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So I think he kind of just hibernated in and they didn't want to,
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you know, give a timeline because there was probably a possibility of him
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coming back. Sure, and you know, it's working to the fact that
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that he is. If they wouldn't have activated him off the twenty one day,
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you know, if if they didn't think he had a chance, and
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you know, it's gonna be interesting history because they they just did elevate Kyer
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Elam you know today, brought him onto the fifty three. So if they
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did bring Jones up, they'd have to bump somebody off, right, And
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that's that's a debate on who that will be and everything between. And if
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you're bringing somebody who's been at inactive most of the year and Kyrie Elam bringing
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him on to the roster, it probably means he's playing this week. It's
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probably pushing Jones to next week, you know, or you know, maybe
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first round of playoffs. But with that twenty one day practice when no he
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could play in either And it's really that's a tough injury, rob right,
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you're talking especially on the defensive line. Yeah, Like that's pectoral that's all
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you use. You're pushing and pulling and swimming and Rippingeah. You know.
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So I wasn't optimistic that he would be back this year, but you know
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it would it would lead to I think, huge dividends if he did come
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back and play for this team, and maybe the Miami game would be a
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good warm up, get in there, you know, so in the playoffs
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he's born back in the game, shape and ready to roll. But the
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defense overall rob This is a stereotypical bend don't break situation with Sean McDermott on
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Saturday night. I mean, it was frustrating because you were kind of expecting
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they've been so clamped down the past couple of weeks against good quarterbacks. You
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were expecting them to kind of come out and torch, you know, this
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stick dude and pick them off a few times, be in his face,
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sack them up. And it really wasn't that at all. The pressure wasn't
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there. In the beginning. They were getting you know, they get a
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nice drive going, then the Bills were kind of tightened up and force them
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into a field goal. And that happened time and time again, and thank
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god it did, because the offense wasn't rolling at all, and you know,
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if they were scoring touchdowns on any of those drives, you're down twenty
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one to nothing real quick on that Saturday night. So typical bend don't break.
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A lot of people interchanging in and out, but overall, when the
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game got to the end, they played well McDermott, like you said,
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got to give credit to him for another game plan to getting out of there
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with the w and playing with what you have and you know, rotating on
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the defensive line, you got Poona Ford and Tim Settle getting like significant snaps
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on Saturday, you know, and and guys flying around in the back that
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that aren't usually there too. So it's it's weird. It's a chameleon defense.
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But at the end of the day, it's that bend, don't break
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mentality that you know McDermod has preached since the time he got there, and
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you know they they held in enough to get the dub. But it was,
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uh, in the beginning, it was definitely like you felt you couldn't
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get off the field. It felt like we didn't have any pressure. You
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know, it didn't feel it always feels worse than it is, right,
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Yeah, I mean you're absolutely right about that. But the pressure, the
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pressure point was something that I really did see and I and I I took
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I took the time on this game to really honestly focus in on vond because
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you know, you hear people talking all the time and you know he's a
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he's a shell of himself. And he's not providing any pressure anything like that.
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And I noticed that the stats weren't there anything like that, and I
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thought, for for a little while, I'll be honesty to you, I
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thought that maybe it was people piling on because of his own personal situation with
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his girlfriend and you know, you know, and and that's not the first
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time that they've been through stuff. So I mean, I stay out of
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people's business. You already know where I sit on Josh Allen and everything like
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that, So we'll we'll stay out of people's business and keep things on the
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field. On the field, I sat and watched him specifically on Sunday,
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and it was it was not good dt. I mean, a lot of
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a lot of starting to play and then if the play is going away from
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him, no pursuit, no, no, nothing like almost like stopping.
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You know. There was a few times I just watched him and he was
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just kind of stopping on the play. Not that he was going to get
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a sack or anything like that, but just the motor it doesn't seem to
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be there. So either I'm wondering if it's if it's confidence in the knee,
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I'm wondering if he's just washed. I mean, defensive ends can play
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well over thirty in this league. We've seen it before. Offensive tackles and
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defensive ends have some of the longer careers that you can have, especially if
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you can keep your athleticism. I understand that there was a big injury DT
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he a shell of himself. Is different because now it's like I don't even
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know if he should be able to field in the playoffs. Because again,
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if it's if we're keeping everything, you know, one hundred and we're keeping
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it all real. I mean, if it's if it's style points to be
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damned, I don't care. If it's a Japaness out there who were critical
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of in the beginning of the year, he's having his best year ever.
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I don't care. If it's Rousseau. I don't care if it's you know,
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Floyd. I need consistent pressure. Need somebody that's gonna move that pocket,
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move those quarterbacks off of their spots, whether it's Tua, whether it's
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Lamar Jackson, whoever the case may be, Joe Flacco, who's a statue.
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I need those guys to be move off their platform. And if if
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Vron can't get their DT, I think it's a problem if you're having them
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on the field just because of his contract. I understand the contract, however,
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this is not like this is That's why I named the episode of the
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way I did. It's it's time to throw then all that shit off the
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window. I don't care about your contract. We'll deal with that next year.
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Right now, I need wins and and if it might be a situation,
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we're at the bencher man. I know that that's crazy to say.
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I know how excited we were, but I mean it. He doesn't look
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good out there DT. I watched him a lot, truly true, but
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what about the remorse on that right? And I don't think Sean McDermott's willing
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to face that. He you know, he with the most critical we've been
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in Sean McDermott. Is that you mean, like the pushback from the moments,
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and he doesn't want to do anything. You'd rather do stuff to not
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be wrong than stuff to be right right. And if he doesn't, he
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starts getting into a situation where he's not playing von Miller, and then down
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the stretch we need to stop and we don't get it, and von Miller's
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not in the game. He's opened a criticism on that right from from field,
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from everybody. You're paying this dude a hundred million dollars to sack the
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quarterback and he's not on the field on a third down, you know,
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So you're completely right. He's not producing and he hasn't produced all year,
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and he really hasn't, you know, shown any signs of changing that.
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You know. It's not like he's been gradually ramping up week by week and
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getting better and better. It's just he kind of just has been blocked since
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he's been back. So I agree, you know, I think you've got
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to put the best players out there to give yourself a chance. But I
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don't think McDermott. I don't think he's got big enough balls to not play
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him. And then if something were to happen and they didn't get pressure when
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they needed and lost a game down the stretch in the playoffs and von Miller
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wasn't on the field, he's got to say von Miller, my one hundred
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million dollar pass rusher, wasn't on the field. Yeah, DT, But
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I mean it's tough because I mean I'm watching him now and he's not you
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know, he's on the field, not doing anything. So that's it.
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That's an interesting take because I'm worried. I'm worried about it the other way
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that you know, he doesn't provide pressure. And then it's you know,
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why didn't you have Floyd in there? Why didn't you have why didn't you
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give aj epeness an opportunity or something like that, you know, why didn't
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you run the NASCAR package? And and and kick Greg Russou inside and let
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him go with Ed Oliver and then just put all of your best passwortses on
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the field. So I'm looking at it in the opposite direction that he's got
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to be accountable to the defense, not just one guy. And and and
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if they're watching film like we're watching obviously, So what's the conversation, what's
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the conversation in house on this rob? Like are they watching? Are they
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looking at this film? And like why are you doing? You know,
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like are they watching this film? Like if if a rookie was out there
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doing this, they'd be getting showed up, Right, what are you doing?
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You're stopping on the play. You're not getting like what are you doing?
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So? Are they doing this in film? Or is it like we
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can't yell at von? What's the what's the vibe in there, because they
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could get real toxic and dangerous if they're not, if they're just like letting
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it go. Because that's the difference. That is difference is because the fact
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that you know, you can't let him skate just because of his past accolades
20:03
and his past accomplishments, that's not that's not how it works. The you
20:07
know, the NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. Now, he got paid,
20:08
he got his money, he got his guaranteed money. We all knew when
20:11
he signed that deal that he wasn't going to see the whole six years of
20:14
it. So I don't think the Bills even expected him, you know,
20:15
to go throughout the entire length of the contract, but they did expect return
20:18
on investment with it in year two. So this was not anything that the
20:22
Bills planned on him getting hurt last Thanksgiving or obviously von Miller as well.
20:26
My thing is that you absolutely have to call him out and you maybe have
20:30
some tough conversations where you're saying, are you hurt? Can you you know,
20:33
like you know, the doctors cleared you, but you know, you
20:34
got to tell us that there's something that's wrong. Because this is not the
20:37
same guy, and maybe show him tape from this year to last year.
20:41
So if it's a situation where you're not confident on your knee, you got
20:42
to tell us. If it's a situation where you know you don't like the
20:45
brace, but you know it might help you have a little bit more confidence
20:48
than we got to put the brace back on von or if it's a situation
20:52
where you're just shot, you know, you got to be honest with how
20:55
you're feeling, because we've got to get somebody else in reps. And I
20:56
think that that is that's hard to do with the older they're so they're having
21:00
that conversation with him, and then what's he telling them, Because it's going
21:03
back out every week, right, He's going back out every weekend doing the
21:07
same thing. So what's he saying in these conversations like no, no,
21:10
I got it, or like yeah, I promise this week could be So
21:15
what how that's my confusion, Like how is this conversation going? Like are
21:18
they getting into him? Because if they're getting into him, he's going out
21:22
and not changing. And if they're not getting into him, they should be,
21:25
you know. So it's like it just doesn't add up for me,
21:27
Robin. Yeah, no, you're You're absolutely right. I mean, I
21:30
I I'm confused over it as well. I just wanted to to get your
21:33
thoughts on it because I know that it is a delicate situation. But I
21:37
always think about coaches, and I always think about you know, I don't
21:38
want to when I coach basketball. I don't want to coach Nate any different
21:42
than I do. You know the rest of the kids. I don't want
21:45
to coach Bobby on his team any different than I do the rest of the
21:47
kids. Now, I will be harder on them because they are my sons
21:51
that type of thing, but not the opposite way. I'm not gonna let
21:52
him get away with shit just because he's my kid. That's the opposite of
21:55
the message I want to send to the team. So I just you got
21:57
to just walk that fine line. McDermott, I know he runs that defense.
22:00
That's his baby, and I understand that von Miller is well respected.
22:03
He's a future Hall of Famer. We've already talked about a Super Bowl MVP.
22:07
We know all of the accolades, but that's all in the past.
22:11
You know, I need you to show up for the Buffalo Bills right now.
22:12
If you're getting paid a ton of money and if you can't do it,
22:15
I need I need you to be honest with with the you know,
22:18
with the team and with the trainers and what's going on, because he does
22:21
not look like von Miller at all from last year now as we transition.
22:26
It's it's interesting because you know that that game DT to the Patriots was I
22:33
was so mad after that, after that damn game, I mean I was.
22:37
I was genuinely pissed because I knew that that team was not better than
22:41
us. They were not playing like that up to that game, and for
22:42
whatever reason, the Bills, let you know, Mac Jones go up and
22:47
down the field on them to start the game, and then at the end
22:48
of the end, up and down the field, and it was it was.
22:52
It was maddening. Is there any chance that the Bills look past the
22:55
Patriots? Is there any chance that they can pull off another upset? I
22:57
don't see a way at home, you know, season, regular season finale,
23:03
home finale for the crowd, the crowd will be amped up. I
23:04
just don't see a way that New England can beat us. We know that
23:07
we're better than them. They should be packing it in. I mean,
23:10
there's rumors about Belichick. We've already talked about that and him being traded and
23:12
stuff like Thatt. But four and eleven all they're doing right now with these
23:15
wins is messing up their dress status. I mean, I know now,
23:19
I know that the players are not going to take and I know all that,
23:22
but Bailey's happy. Now we had Mac Jones the first time. Now
23:25
Bailey's appy is going to come in to Buffalo, to Orchard Park and do
23:27
something like, is there what is the percentage chance that this can happen?
23:30
Because I really wanted to be like last week where I'm not worried about it
23:34
and then maybe I'll be surprised. But I just don't anticipate a game with
23:40
these guys, right DT, Please tell me, all right, get one
23:44
week off before everything just ramps up. Please three pillars that don't benefit the
23:48
New England Patriots on Sunday. Okay, you have the first factor of the
23:55
team itself of beating us. You know, earlier in the season in a
23:59
BS game, a game we shouldn't have lost. The game that was just
24:02
ugly from the start. Mac Jones looking great, doing the bullshit gritty on
24:07
us after they win and you know, at the end of the game and
24:10
having to fly back to Buffalo on a loss, like after you just took
24:12
that Jacksonville loss that you probably shouldn't have taken, and then you get smacked
24:17
in the face with his Patriots loss. And that's when the real you know,
24:19
when a fishing boat, you know, when a fish catches on and
24:22
that reel just goes. That's when it kind of started with this season and
24:26
the and the unrailing and you know, everyone in the team itself, the
24:30
dark the dark ages of that middle season. That's kind of when it was
24:33
really live. And you know, so one the team's gonna come back and
24:38
want to get that repayment for that. You know, they've they've known,
24:41
they have the confidence, you know that they are a super Bowl contender,
24:45
and those last three weeks of them winning these games is kind of proving that
24:48
back into reality and it's just another step to to get to the final to
24:53
the final goal here. So I think they're focused in and they want to
24:56
repay the Patriots with a big loss. Y Pillar, Okay, mafia us
25:02
nicol City. This is a not only is it our you know, our
25:06
favorite one o'clock kickoff, right, you know, we're gonna it's not gonna
25:10
be too horrible weather, but it's gonna be a perfect December game in the
25:12
thirties, maybe a little snow one o'clock kickoff. It's New Year's Eve,
25:17
rob It's New year' z. Nobody's got to work on Monday. Nobody's gotta
25:21
work on Monday. This is a wide open free zone for for seventy thousand
25:27
people on Sunday. And you know, you usually see a few Patriots fans
25:33
out there. I doubt you see a lot of them on Sunday because one
25:37
of their team stinks, and two they know they know the mafia is gonna
25:40
have a little more edge on them than they usually do. Okay, why
25:42
would Yeah, No, exactly Number three is you know, and I'm not
25:48
saying Vegas Vegas has a script to the NFL or anything like that, but
25:52
this is a beautiful thing for Vegas right now. Because last week they put
25:56
the bills as a thirteen point favorite bills on fire. The Chargers look horrible,
26:02
they did did the cover on them, you know, so the public
26:06
was probably pretty heavy on taking the bills with those points last week. Okay,
26:10
okay, So the public takes the Bills with the points. Vegas makes
26:12
out because the Chargers cover they they are on the upper hand of that.
26:17
They come back the next week throwing give you the same one. Yeah,
26:21
another double points spread, and the public goes, well, geez, the
26:23
Bills, Bills can't beat these close teams. Let's start betting the Patriots plus
26:27
eleven. And this is the game. The Bills go in and beat them
26:30
by four, you know. So those are those are my three pillars of
26:34
I don't think New England has a chance because of that, the team itself
26:37
getting redemption, the Mafia on some holiday spirit if you will. Yeah,
26:41
and and Vegas hardly ever loses. And this is a nice trap they're gonna
26:45
put everybody into on Sunday. I love it. I love those three pillars
26:49
right there. DT very very well done where you broke that down. I
26:52
mean it'll be interesting. I know, I know for sure about the first
26:56
two that you know they're they're gonna be factors as well because of the fact
27:00
that, yeah, I don't, I don't, the Mafia is gonna be
27:03
juiced up, and the team's not that good. I mean, they're just
27:04
they're just not. I mean, that was an anomaly. We should have
27:07
never lost that game. I I just still get upset this even thinking about
27:11
it, because it was a nice sunny day in New England, and I,
27:14
you know, I was there and I had the you know, I
27:15
had watching the game in the garage, and then I had told you that
27:18
was the birthday party day. So I'm just sitting in the garage watching that
27:19
game before I go pick up Bobby. And I just was so mad that
27:22
day. So I don't want any dumb shit on Sunday. And I can't
27:26
wait for the game because it's gonna be a big one. Now again,
27:29
I've told you before, technical can still make the playoffs even if we lose
27:32
it. But I don't even want to go down that road. It seems
27:33
like most scenarios, the way that they're setting up DT is just win this
27:37
game and then it's for the division next week. As long as Baltimore can
27:41
can beat Miami. Now that's gonna be an intriguing game to watch. Baltimore
27:45
looks great. They just dismantled the Niners four picks for brock Purty, so
27:49
you know, anything can happen. And I definitely expect them to take care
27:52
of Miami at home and make Miami, you know, put them in a
27:56
situation where they've got a sweat for something now. They've they've been coon this
28:00
year and the Bills had their struggles, like we talked about in the mid
28:03
in the middle of the season, and this might be the first time that
28:04
Miami's feeling a little bit of heat. So if they go on the road
28:07
to Baltimore and don't you know, squeeze it out DT, I mean,
28:11
it's it's it's it's it's on, like Donkey Kok, Like, I can't
28:15
wait for that next week and see what those you know, those vibes will
28:18
be like down there in South Beach because the fact that that that's just a
28:21
rivalry renewed. Man, Like, that's just Kelly Marino, Like it's all
28:23
over again, you know, with with Tua going against Josh Allen for all
28:27
the marvels. I mean, I'm really excited to see if Baltimore can pull
28:30
this game out because it sets it up really beautifully and that makes this game
28:34
and with the Patriots kind of really important, right Rob take care of your
28:38
business. You win this game. It's a win win for you going into
28:41
the Week eight team, Yes, you win this game and the Dolphins win,
28:45
they're probably resting their starters because they've blocked up to two and you know,
28:48
and they you know, okay, so they're they're resting their starters and
28:52
you go into the final week and you can probably get them, get them
28:55
all they're down, and the way that much shape out as you might have
28:59
them go back. Yeah, you might have them back to back because you
29:02
have that seventh loss and be that seventh seed. You know, so whatever
29:06
in that regard they lose, you go in there and you can you got
29:10
a chance for the division and the two. And you know, so beating
29:11
the Patriots is huge because whatever happens with the Dolphins, beating the Patriots makes
29:15
you makes it a win win, you know, as the Bills. But
29:21
the Dolphins are man, they're annoying. Man. They're they're good, They're
29:25
not they're good. Yeah, and they are good and McDaniel is good and
29:30
respect, but they're just always trying to be validated, you know, they
29:33
always they're just crying for respect and crying from respect. And it's like,
29:37
okay, I get it. But if you go and you lose to the
29:40
you lose to the Ravens and the Bills come in and beat you, and
29:41
you know for the division? What respect? You know, you don't deserve.
29:45
You don't deserve respect. So seventy on Denver with those with the emojis
29:52
of the you know, like, why are we underdogs against the Bills.
29:55
That's weird? And then the Bills, you know, murder them. Yeah,
29:57
so I'm taking the Dolphins. I would love to beat them for the
30:02
division at their place and take that two seed and get that home game and
30:04
get the Kailgate back and you do it, do it like we should be.
30:07
But you know, it is what it is at this time, and
30:11
it's a rivalry either way, because you're either you're gonna have to play them
30:14
twice, you know, but you always got to play them once in Week
30:17
eight team. So I think this Patriots games huge because if they we can
30:19
win this game, it makes whatever happens with the Dolphins a little less relevant.
30:25
Yeah. No, you're absolutely right about that. And well it'll be
30:26
interesting to see because you know, just I can't stand them either, and
30:30
I you know, I've got Dolphin fans that I know and that they're annoying,
30:33
and you know, what I mean. They're always you know, just
30:34
needling at you, just you like, you're absolutely right. It is a
30:37
little bit of a Rodney dangerfield, you know, vibe to them, and
30:41
they always want to be validated. They always won't respect it. No respect
30:44
that tell you, and like and like you haven't done shit. Colin Cowherd
30:47
talked about it and it was a great rant. You know, he's talking
30:49
about how they want respect. They haven't done anything in twenty six years,
30:52
so like I understand, like that's a long time to beat irrelevant in that
30:56
respect that I've never been horrible and they've never been good enough. They've kind
30:57
of been like the drought bills. So because of that, like I can
31:00
only you know, take so much of their bravado because they are very raggedocious.
31:04
They're they're the fast sports car period man. That you hear it coming
31:08
streaming down the street and you can hear the exhaust and and it looks cool
31:12
and it's fast and you know, but it's like damn, like my kids
31:15
are sleeping, like shut that shit up, like you know what I mean.
31:18
It's kind of how they are like just USh for a little bit,
31:21
and like they don't want to shut up and watching them a little more intently
31:25
on Sunday when they played the Cowboys. You know, I watched that game
31:27
start to finish, every minute of it on Christmas Eve to hope for the
31:33
Cowboys to beat them and snag them that loss. And that game didn't give
31:37
me respect for the Dolphins for winning it. It gave me disrespect for the
31:40
Cowboys. Yeah, come on, Dak Prescott, like, what are you
31:44
doing on the one? Yeah, like that game in no way, shape
31:48
or form other than their kicker that made like four fifty yard kicks. Other
31:52
than that, it didn't let me gain any respect for the Dolphins. It
31:56
made me disrespect the Cowboys more for doing that. And you know, and
32:00
that's the first Dolphins game other than the Bills one I watched top to bottom,
32:02
right. So this team has gotta is who they are. They've earned
32:07
their wins. They've only beat one team over five hundred. They got a
32:10
buzz saw on the Ravens coming in and we won't be able to see it.
32:14
It's at one o'clock, which is but yeah, I can't believe the
32:19
NFL did that on all these crazy scheduling things they have, and then they
32:22
put one of the biggest games at one o'clock. But we can hope looking
32:25
up at that out of town scoreboard that you know, we see the Ravens
32:29
up on them and go from there. Yeah. Absolutely. Now as we
32:31
begin to wrap up, it's gonna be funny because I can't wait yet know
32:36
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DT. The Nickel City Crew Tailgate Report. I mean, I Christmas was
33:12
great, you know, uh, and I hope it was for you too.
33:14
I know we talked a little bit pre show, but Christmas was great.
33:16
The Kings had a great time and and got too much stuff like they
33:19
always do, and and and Saturday was I liked it a lot. I
33:22
like the fact that Saturday was done, because then I got a chance to
33:24
really just like relax the rest of the weekend, and like there was no
33:29
stress or anything like that in respects to like Christmas other than the kids and
33:31
running around, but like putting a game on top of that, or like
33:35
putting a game like you know, Sunday, I wouldn't have liked it.
33:37
So I really liked the fact that the Bills got out of the way.
33:39
I'm nice and early. I watched the game, and it was it was
33:43
really nice. Man. I was just in chill mode. I had my
33:45
kings with me, and I was just in chill mode watching the game and
33:47
and and taking it in. And again I talked about how I was a
33:50
little bit nervous and more nervous than I anticipated i'd be, but I was
33:52
really happy that they turned out and got that win. And you start,
33:55
you know, making your plans for Christmas. That's Christmas Eve Eve, and
33:58
then you're making your plans for Christmas Eve and and how did it work for
34:01
the reughsick tribe? Man? How was it Christmas Eve Eve game? And
34:06
then that leads right into the great holiday weekend. Yeah, it was.
34:09
It was wonderful as as I kind of teased last week, you know,
34:13
with the family growing and I have a nephew now, and my sister and
34:17
brother in law were hosting our Christmas with them on Saturday, so that was
34:22
kind of the first part of the Christmas season. We were up there Saturday,
34:27
great meal, great day, had some old fashions, got the wild
34:31
going. Yeah, and you know, was able to shout out to my
34:35
brother in law Derek really uh put a nice projector in his basement, real
34:38
clear imaging. And that's you know, where we watched the Bills game last
34:42
year, It's where we watched the Bills Dolphins that Saturday night game when the
34:46
Bills beat the Dolphins in the reds same same concept this year. Had a
34:52
great dinner, had a roasted ham, some cheesey potatoes, some old fashions,
34:57
and and watching the Bills get a sneaky up, which was cool because
35:00
I don't get to watch the games with my family like that. And it's
35:02
a blessing and a curse, you know, because uh, you know,
35:06
sometimes it's some comments come out that it's like you don't know, but then
35:10
you know, it's good to share those times. So yeah, So that
35:15
that was good all the way around, and I'm glad we were able to
35:19
uh to share that together and get the win. It would have got dark,
35:22
if you know, if they didn't get the win and then transition right
35:25
into Christmas. I gotta I gotta shout out Pops. He's got the tragger.
35:29
Now. We talked about smoke smoked meat like that prime rib. That
35:34
smoke prime rib for Christmas Eve was was next level. I've never had a
35:37
smoke prime rib. It's prime rib is always great. Obviously, the smoke
35:40
prime rib had the you're talking like the exterior was tasted like beef jerky with
35:46
the salt and the smoke. But it was really cool. It's like tender,
35:50
you know, it wasn't chewy, it was tender. And then obviously
35:52
the meat in the middle was was beautiful. It's it was a good,
35:57
good Christmas Eve dinner, you know, watching that the end of that Cowboys
36:00
Dolphins game in the into Christmas. But had to shout off the primary But
36:04
I know it wasn't in the Tailgate report, but it deserves me absolutely.
36:08
And for this week, we'll get together. I'm gonna come up for the
36:12
last game DT last regular season home game again. We hope that we get
36:15
a chance to sneak out and get that number two seed if everything falls our
36:19
way, so we can have some more tailgates. But as it stands now,
36:21
this will be the regular season finale. If the Bills are going to
36:23
go to the super Bowl, as it looks right now, we're gonna have
36:25
to be road warriors, and that's that's totally fine with me. We we
36:29
do well on the road as well. But it's gonna be nice to see
36:31
you. It'll be nice to see everybody else together at least one final time.
36:36
And that's really about it. Man. I cannot wait for the atmosphere.
36:38
You always talk about old faithful at one o'clock, and that's that's just
36:42
what we used to We're a customed to that. That that's just in the
36:45
DNA. Get up early, get out there to the stadium, throw that
36:46
ball around a little bit, and let those juices start flowing. So I'm
36:50
really excited for it. I can't wait to see it again. I know
36:52
I've missed you a little bit. This year has been a hectic year for
36:55
me, but you know I'm off you through and through and and nicol City
36:59
crew. I mean, we're right here man now keeping in the theme of
37:01
Buffalo Fan Base, I know, a little bit late, but never never
37:07
too late. We are so appreciate. I'm appreciative as we go into this
37:10
twenty twenty four DT. I'm appreciative of us and how much we've grown.
37:15
And then the platform because the simulcast, what it does is it lets us
37:19
reach more people. It would not be anything without Again, shout out to
37:22
Jay Spence, the King who got me in contact with Justice General Radford.
37:28
Holla at the crew, big day, because I mean, I enjoyed,
37:32
man, I enjoyed being on the simulcast on Buffalo Fan Base, and I
37:37
know that DT does as well. And it just it allows us to get
37:39
out to a broader audience. And we owe you to think. I mean,
37:44
salute to you, Mary, Christmas, Happy New Year, man.
37:46
I think y'all bro man, I'm a huge fan of the podcast itself.
37:52
So for you guys to be able to come over and you know, be
37:54
a part of the family, I was super appreciative. And shout out to
37:58
my boy Jay Spence, you know, putting this together. I feel like
38:02
it was great, you know what I mean, match made you absolutely one
38:07
hundred percent. I appreciate everything you guys bring to the brand, and I
38:09
appreciate you know, y'all being so open to having on here to argue with
38:14
DT. You know, I love it, no, but seriously, I
38:16
hope you guys have a happy holiday. Tty bro oh man. That's so
38:22
funny. You know it's funny because you know, it's just the fact that
38:28
the podcast that it's gone so well, and the fact that it's growing and
38:30
different things like that. That just gives us an opportunity to meet more people,
38:34
which is what I'm in for it for. And I know the dts
38:37
enjoy some of the interactions as well. And you know, we're getting we're
38:39
working on our social media, we're trying to get better at it. But
38:42
I know in twenty twenty four we're gonna make a more concerned effort because we
38:45
really think that the brand is something that people like DT and I know that
38:47
you agree with that. I think it's something that people enjoy. We're candid,
38:51
we speak our mind. We don't always agree, but we you know,
38:53
we're locked up on a lot of stuff, and I love what we
38:55
don't agree as well. Could we get a chance to fight, but I
38:59
wanted to get your your thoughts, you know, justice general because of the
39:02
fact that you joined late. But I wanted to just kiss your overall thoughts
39:06
of the season as we begin to wrap up tonight and and what you're looking
39:08
ahead, because I saw something on Twitter. I'm a little bit upset about
39:13
it when you put out your little playoff bracket and I was gonna like it,
39:15
and I just let it go, and I was like, all right,
39:17
no problem, he can have his thoughts and stuff like that. You
39:20
know, you had Bills in the seventh seed going against the Dolphins back to
39:22
back weeks. Have you said that the advantage went to the Dolphins on that
39:25
one? So you read that wrong? My brother? That wrong, my
39:29
brother. That was not me. I was chatting, not chastising. I
39:35
was questioning someone who said that, Oh okay, that wasn't your bracket.
39:38
No, because my thought process was, in order for the Dolphins to have
39:44
the two seed in the first place, they must beat the Ravens and or
39:47
the Bills, Right, So you are going to beat the Ravens, then
39:52
turn around and beat the Bills, who you haven't bet yet, right,
39:57
Neil, turn around to beat the Bills again. You have not been.
40:00
They beat the Chiefs, who you haven't, so I had to. Okay,
40:06
So you were checking somebody, Okay, Okay, I thought that was
40:07
your break and I'm like, damn, that's oh no, okay. I'm
40:13
not scared to go into Baltimore. I'm not scared to go into Cleveland.
40:17
I'm not scared to go into Cincinnati or about your d T. Are you
40:25
scared of anybody? Are you scared of anybody? D T? No?
40:29
I mean I would say if if if I had to pick one to be
40:31
scared of, it, yeah, it'd be They're the most I think they're
40:37
the most well rounded. They're the they're the san Fran of the a f
40:39
C. Granted they just beat beat the breaks off san Fran, but you
40:43
know that off as Lamar starting to feel himself. They got the rookie wide
40:49
receiver who's who did not playing like a rookie Odell still showing flashes of of
40:53
being Odell. Their mind's good. Defensively, they're kind of stacked and all
40:57
they got young and old and each in each level of that defense. So
41:02
last year we go to Baltimore, we get down, you know, fourteen
41:06
to nothing, and it got a claw back and barely win that game with
41:09
La Mark kind of playing bad. So I don't love the idea of going
41:13
into Baltimore, but anywhere else. I mean, we've shown we can not
41:16
in the playoffs, but he's shown we can go in to Kansas City and
41:20
win again, not in the playoffs. We'll see the Dolphins haven't shown,
41:24
like Colin Coward said, the Dolphins haven't done anything in twenty years, So
41:28
why would we be scared to go to them? Jacksonville would be a revenge
41:31
game if it's not Jacksonville and it's Indy Lucas Oil is not as Jack think.
41:37
JJ Watt was talking about it last week. It was called the Loudhouse.
41:40
He's like, who calls it the loudhouse? Definitely not the loudhouse,
41:45
you know, and you know anywhere else in that order. It's just nobody
41:49
really scares me. So Baltimore would be the one that scares me the most.
41:52
But you know, other than that, if we get the two seed
41:55
and don't have to go there until the SC championship anyway, Yeah, I
42:00
mean Cleveland is a great D though Justice, I mean, Cleveland's got a
42:01
great D and Miles Garrett is a man Justice like he's a he's to go
42:07
to Cleveland. No, I mean no, not if we get the two
42:09
seed. But if we get, you know, for the seventh seed or
42:12
sixth seed, then it's it could be some tough sleuthern Justice. What do
42:15
you I mean so nobody, you're just that confident. I know you always
42:16
exude confidence, but I mean Baltimore that that wasn't impressive. See how they
42:22
see. I don't want that to get misconstrued. I'm not gonna stay here
42:25
and lie to you and say that wasn't impressive, because it was impressive as
42:29
hell. They went out there and played extremely well and they got a good
42:34
team win. Now where my fear dissipates if that's Buffalo as opposed to San
42:40
Francisco. Like DT said, if I had to pick somebody, it will
42:45
be Baltimore. Am I scared of them? No? I'm not scared of
42:49
them though, But if I had to make somebody who I was most afraid
42:52
of would be Baltimore. But look, Sean mcdermom's gonna have a plan for
42:55
Lamar Jackson, as he always does anytime he sees him, even the first
43:00
time when Lamar was on fire and nobody could stop him. McDermott put together
43:05
a blueprint on Yeah, we put together the blue bottled him up. How
43:13
about Lamar? He beat him in the playoffs and then we beat him last
43:15
season, So I'm not worried about the Raven. We'll have a plan for
43:20
Lamar. Right as far as our defense goes, as far as our offense
43:22
goes, Josh Allen is not brock Purty. Okay, get me wrong,
43:28
rock Perty is decent. But brock Perty plays in the best offensive scheme that
43:32
we've seen since who knows like like that. He has an offensive mastermind head
43:40
coach, so he plays in this and don't get me wrong, he plays
43:44
well in that scheme. But Josh Allen is a whole different beast. Josh
43:47
Allen is the most talented quarterback we've ever seen play football. So I'm not
43:52
gonna put them in the same boat. And although I will credit you,
43:58
uh San Francisco has quote better weapons, but I would put Stefan Diggs.
44:02
I would pick take Stefan's over Deebo Samuel I would. I would I would
44:10
take a Dalton Dawson Knox combination over George Kittle. Right, and then and
44:17
then you want to hand me Christian McCaffrey. Awesome, I'm gonna give you
44:21
the second leading rusher in the league or thirty and then I have a significantly
44:28
better quarterback, so you know, and and not only that, but you're
44:31
not gonna be able to push away, push around our offensive line. You
44:35
know, God forbid that Dion Dawkins gets injured or something in the middle of
44:37
the game right now. But I just see being a different outcome. And
44:44
not only that, but Lamar didn't play well in the game. He didn't
44:46
play well, the offense did not play well, the defense put them in
44:51
fantastic positions. So second half, no, no, no, see,
44:58
okay, I'll give you that. And maybe i'm I'm I'm kind of at
45:02
the same point, the same thing that people do with Joshua's Like you see
45:06
him perform something amazing over and over and it almost almost get dult to it,
45:09
right, Okay, So I'll give you that, But I would say
45:13
that it wasn't like something that was just like totally unstoppable. Right if you
45:17
put together the appropriate you know, precautions and have a spy on him or
45:23
you know, keep him in the pocket, you know, contain whatever the
45:27
case may be, which McDermott will make sure of. Then you know,
45:30
some of those runs don't happen. Some of the you know, being able
45:34
to keep the play alive and find an open receiver doesn't happen. And I
45:37
think the Buffalo Bills will because the first of all, you're gonna have to
45:40
deal with that. I'll er up the middle and then if you can,
45:45
you got Gregor's on, Leonard Floyd on the and that's on the edge.
45:50
Like I just it's a different beast to me. Do you think that the
45:52
Bills? You know, it's funny because I was thinking about this today before
45:55
and I want I want to post both of this question to you both.
45:59
Do you think that the Bills like is it isn't anything from a I mean,
46:02
I don't think that they're gonna miss the playoff At this point, we'll
46:05
go over some scenarios and I know DT wanted me to before we wrap up,
46:07
But is it is it playoff seventh seed all the way up to Super
46:12
Bowl? I mean, is there anything in the robo possibility as possible?
46:14
Like do they lose in the first round? Can you guys see that happening?
46:16
Or I mean, like what's the what's the basement for this team?
46:20
Because I was thinking about it and I'm like, man, this team I
46:22
can see. I can see Josh Allen looking looking sad like somebody stole his
46:28
puppy at the press conference after a wildcard loss to whoever at the end of
46:32
the season. And then I could see I mean, I know, call
46:36
me crazy, but I could see me calling DT like, yo, man,
46:38
I'm in the car and i am on the way to Buffalo because we're
46:42
getting ready to celebrate the parade, and I can't even I'm not crying,
46:45
and I've got stock coming out of my nose, and I can't really believe
46:46
that this is happening. Like I can I can see anything on that entire
46:51
spectrum. I can see a divisional loss. I can see a wildcard loss,
46:53
of an AFC Championship game loss, or a Super Bowl loss, which
46:57
would be the very worst. But I really can't see the game it So
47:00
I would love for you guys to tell me what you could see. Well,
47:01
let's simplify it. I mean, we we were taking the playoffs for
47:06
granted in the beginning of the year. Sure, then it got a little
47:08
bleak for a while and then now it's we were fighting tooth and nail hoping
47:13
for people to lose. We gotta win these games. These people have to
47:15
lose for us to even get in. Right, why are we getting in?
47:20
Because we keep winning getting in and win the ring rob you know,
47:22
like ring. So if we're cheering for this team to get into the playoffs,
47:28
we think there's a legit chance of them winning the super Bowl. And
47:30
you know, and and I think there's part of mafia that doesn't think that.
47:35
I think us at Nicola City Crew, you know, I think we're
47:37
capable obviously, I think, you know, we each other think we're capable
47:40
of doing this. But all this talk and getting in the in the playoffs
47:45
is for what if you don't think we can win the Bowl? Right?
47:47
So, yeah, they've they've proven that Josh Allen could be that in that
47:51
sad press conference after a tough loss, and some anominally happens and it's the
47:55
excuse for this offseason. But we talked all year about what we're running out
48:00
of excuses or not Nonominally they just get beat. I mean, you're not
48:02
good enough or you know, or we are, And I think, you
48:07
know, we're fighting to get in the playoffs because we think we're good enough.
48:08
So yes, it is possible for sure, but you know, we're
48:13
that's like what people the focus is to get in, But why are we
48:16
getting in to win the damn thing? To win it? Yeah? What
48:19
about you justice? Do you see a do you see confetti falling all the
48:22
way up? You know, you know, or beat or or even a
48:25
wild card loss, like I mean, I could beating a team twice as
48:28
hard. So maybe the Bills win Week eight team, like you know,
48:30
DT and I had laid out a scenario earlier where if they lose, then
48:34
they're you know, if they beat the Ravens and they're already resting their starters
48:36
Week eighteen, so Bills go down to the South Beach, get it nicely
48:38
to easy win. We're, you know, the seventh seed, and we
48:40
got to go back on the road anyway to Miami. That's it's tough to
48:44
beat a team twice. So is there any what are the ranges of possibilities
48:47
how you see this this this season ending? I mean, is it all
48:51
the way to confetti? So when you look at it, you look at
48:54
the list of options that will have that that could have happened if the Buffalo
48:59
Bills, you know, make the playoffs. We're just assuming that they get
49:01
h Let's assume that they get him, right. So let's let's say that
49:06
they're the seventh seeds. Right, Let's say Miami beats the best team in
49:10
the league. And also, you know what I'm saying, Like, let's
49:14
say Miami gets it done in there the two seeds. Okay, that means
49:17
we go back to Miami where we beat them the last eleven to twelve.
49:22
Right, Okay, you know the one game we lost. Agrees, they
49:29
only want when he couldn't even breathe, he was so tired and the heat,
49:37
he underthrew a ball. All right, that's the only reason that we
49:39
lost that game. Right, I love that twelve at the last fourteen times.
49:45
And the only other time Josh lost to Miami was where play Uh,
49:51
what's the yeah under Charles play Charles Clay the ball? Charles Clay didn't come
49:58
back for the ball. All right, So Josh washes Miami every single time
50:02
he gets the opportunity, right, Okay, he goes to Miami, he
50:06
sits on a couch, he smacks, he smacks the wife on the ass.
50:09
It's all the fool on Miami's plate every time. Okay, So then
50:15
what happened the last time we went to Casey? Excuse me, what happened
50:19
in the last two times we went to Casey? We want, I mean
50:21
we want, we want all right, So I ain't worried about were going
50:27
to Alan ahead, We're going to Allenhead and we're gonna We're gonna get it
50:30
done either way, right, Or we see Jacksonville who sucked now we'll see
50:36
the coats who got well walk all over the coat. Or we get in
50:42
Houston who who scared me a little bit. I'm not gonna lie to you.
50:45
C J. Stroud is healthy. What scared me a little bit?
50:49
But I wouldn't be worried about it, right. I don't think their defense
50:52
is good enough to shut down josh defense. That's what I'm saying things.
51:00
Yes, for sure, he's a dog, and Will Anderson he's a dog.
51:02
So I think Houston just just just by way of you know, Strout
51:08
may be able to do something. And we've seen we've seen some weird games
51:12
with them. Anyway, we gave up a sixteen point lead when when we
51:14
when Josh was a baby, coming into the league. So you know,
51:16
we've seen some weird It's a different team, but that's a good point.
51:20
Absolutely, yeah, we see weird stuff. So okay, so you can
51:22
see it all the way to confetti. You can see confetti. I'm trying
51:24
to look at the AMC and I'm trying to see what team do I think
51:29
because we know that there's two Bills teams, right, There's and mister High.
51:32
Right. When you get Doctor Jaco, you lose to the Jets,
51:37
you get mister Hyde. Yeah, you blow out the Cowboys, you blow
51:43
out the Dolphins, right, and we usually get mister Hide when the Bills
51:47
have a team that they see as equal. We gotta buckle down. We
51:52
gotta buckle down and get it done right. Playoffs all a buck down and
51:57
get done all right, and the word come back in the snow, right,
52:00
Ken Dorsey's gone right. Joe Brady is shown to be a competent offensive
52:06
coordinator, game flow manager, and play call right. So I don't see
52:09
any team in the a f C that would be able to slow down the
52:14
Bills offense enough and put enough points on the board to be able to get
52:19
it done. Cleveland would slow but Joe Flacco is not putting points on the
52:23
board. Baltimore defense is number one I think in d v O A.
52:28
I think the best defensive they for sure are they all season? Theyame't played
52:34
Josh all season. Okay, Okay, it's easy to be one of DVO
52:38
when you don't play the best quarterback in the league. That is a good
52:40
point. I mean, they're playing the AFC, the AFC North, who
52:44
doesn't have a sturdy quarterback other than Lamar are on the third the fourth quarterback
52:50
right or third or something like that. Okay, and they played all these
52:52
teams twice without any of these cats, you know. So yeah, that's
52:55
a good point. Okay. I just wanted to I just wanted to gage
52:59
it because, you know, I thought to myself, you know, today
53:01
and as we begin to wrap up, I appreciate you justice. I'm hopping
53:04
on with us a little late, and we were able to get you in.
53:07
You know, I was just thinking to myself, I was like,
53:07
well, I mean, what can I see? And I could close my
53:10
eyes and you know, we all know that Josh Allen fucking face and then
53:14
you know, and he looks sad and then he's you know, and and
53:16
I don't. And I'll push back on anomaly. DT. We've seen them
53:20
just get beat, you know, by teams that are not their equal,
53:22
or teams that they don't even deserve to be on the field with. So
53:23
they could they could just get beat and I could see a press conference and
53:27
then you're absolutely right, DT, what is the narrative? What what went
53:30
wrong that day? Was it the offense? Was it the deef? What
53:32
went wrong that day? And then we're gonna be talking about it all off
53:36
season and and and that makes me sad. And then I think about the
53:38
next round and the next round, and then I'm like, I could can
53:42
I wake up on an AFC Championship game Sunday and think that we're gonna win
53:45
a game? Like sure, like you know, Baltimore would be would be
53:47
tough, But I think I could. I can think I could visualize us
53:51
going against Baltimore and Baltimore going up there and it's a it's a cold night
53:54
by the sea and we're why why? You know why? Because he that's
54:02
a great point. What do they say every time Casey crapped the bed?
54:07
But they go fifteen, Oh but they got the walls? Oh all right?
54:13
Cool? He got Joshua Patrick Allen, all Right, I'm using that
54:16
same argument because I've seen Josh do in the playoffs before a right, we
54:22
Josh don't have a super Bowl because of Josh. Josh the super Bowl because
54:24
his coaches. The wallin sometimes. God, man, did you see the
54:29
squip kick? The squip kick? That nothing made me more mad? And
54:35
yeah, made me more mad because I'm sitting there and i got Quincy in
54:38
my arms and I'm looking at it the night stuft to squeeze like I start
54:42
to feel my body start to clinch, and he's like, what's wrong,
54:44
Dad, I'm like this, this damn coach. How do you feel when
54:46
you saw the wall? Nive seconds came off that clock five seconds and that
54:51
was and that was the the up man. But it wasn't like the one
54:53
of the guys in the beginning of it. It was like the second to
54:55
last guy, the up man, and the big burly fat guy got it
55:00
and he's got to run for a couple of quick seconds and the Neils or
55:01
whatever he did, whatever he did, I think he ran it for a
55:04
second. And then now I'm like, I'm like thirteen minus find his eight.
55:08
I'm like oh my god, it's no time to Hey, hey Kelsey,
55:14
do it, do it? Do it? No time of that ship
55:15
you gotta do. You're gonna do your best hooking ladder plate. Now you
55:20
might have got to half filled, but you would have to throw the hell
55:22
and Mary after that. Yeah, man, I was so mad. I
55:24
was like McDermott, McDermott, McDermott. I'm just I'm still waiting for him
55:28
to make that wrong, right man, because uh, and I like this
55:31
and I liked his answer or whatever, even though I was seething. His
55:34
answer was like, well, we just want to learn from situations stuff like
55:37
that, and that's what I've been asking for him, is that the growth
55:38
mindset from our coach. So we had a great episode. I'm not gonna
55:42
I'm not gonna backtrack. That was that was very interesting. I hope you
55:45
all noticed that ship because I I definitely noticed that five seconds ticked off that
55:47
clock like it was nothing. I'm like, damn, man, what we
55:52
asked them to beat us and and our coach helped us. So I will
55:54
give you that point justice that no we Josh Allen is talented enough to get
56:00
confetti to fall, and I think that's what you're trying to say. And
56:01
and and I agree with that. I think that he's good enough to do
56:04
it. And to echo what DT said as well, you guys are right
56:07
on the head. Why do you get in? Because why did you get
56:08
in if you don't think that you can win it? You know what I
56:10
mean? Other those we're not one of those bottom dweller teams that are just
56:14
gonna be happening a whole episode. Yeah, we did a whole episode.
56:17
I'm growing up with your fandom, growing up on your fantom. This isn't
56:21
just get in anymore, Rob Confetti. This is what it is now.
56:27
And not only that, but what will we worried about in terms of like
56:31
last week, let's say, before the Chargers game, when we saw the
56:35
Bills blow out the Cowboys, right, where were we worried about? We
56:37
were like, oh, okay, but when we get the Super Bowl,
56:39
we're gonna see San Francisco. The Braves walked all over them. Santa Clara
56:47
by the way. So the Bills blew the Dolphin, the Cowboys out even
56:52
the Dolphins beat the Cowboys, right, We've seen the Eagles get beat bad
56:57
by AFC teams. Uh, we've seen the San Francisco forty nine ers now
57:00
get be bad by an AFC team, which you know, we thought the
57:05
NFC was just so much better than the AFC this year, but it turns
57:07
out they only look better because they playing crappier competition. Yeah, so the
57:13
AMC is way stronger. So you tell me that we go through quote unquote
57:17
gauntlet, which I can still think we're far and away the best team in
57:21
AFC right now. If we go through this gauntlet, smack everybody, win
57:24
a close game against Baltimore, go to the super Bowl. I think you
57:28
smack whoever comes across No, well, I love it. I love that
57:30
energy. I love that energy. I love you guys man. I appreciate
57:34
you Justice General. Check them out on Twitter, Instagram at JA seventeen MVP.
57:39
We really appreciate him the general running everything over at Buffalo fan Base again
57:44
Official Bill's Mafia Podcast Network that we are again so appreciative. Salute to you
57:49
Justice for allowing us to be over here in Simoncast because we really do appreciate
57:52
it. It helps with our exposure and we're looking for big things at twenty
57:55
twenty four. So Mary Christmas till you happy to do your brother, We
57:59
appreciate you a couple of tonight and sharing some of your thoughts. Better late
58:01
than never, and we appreciate having We always love chopping up with you,
58:05
man. We always love chopping it up with you. Man. We really
58:07
do. Dt you know. I love you, brother, Man. I
58:09
mean, I'll see you and my brother from another mother. I will see
58:12
you. My I call him just as I called him last week. I
58:14
said, he's my this is my Bills. He's my Bill's best friend.
58:16
And I said to me, beyond the step brothers and whenever did we just
58:20
become best friends? Yeah, you know what I mean. And I said
58:22
that he's my Bill's best friend. And I appreciate your man. Happy holidays
58:25
to you and your family, and I can't wait to see you. Man.
58:28
I'll see you and we'll chop it up at least one more time for
58:30
the regular season, and maybe we get lucky and get another tail. Get
58:32
out of it, love it, love it. Happy holidays will get them
58:37
in the new year. Let's Mafia and Nicol City Crew be loud Sunday.
58:39
You don't really really give it. Nobody's got to work Monday. Let him
58:43
hear it. Let him hear it. Absolutely, everybody New Year's Eve,
58:46
absolutely, as always, these were my bills, thoughts set up loud,
58:50
spread love not hate. Hit them with a gold bills, please both y'all.
58:54
Hit him with the gold bills. Gold bills, and it's sick.