Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / Training for Old Age

Transcript

Training for Old Age · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

0:05
Speaker 1: On the Happy Families podcast, Kylie and I have decided
0:08
Speaker 1: that we'd like to pull back the curtain a little more,
0:10
Speaker 1: share a touch more of ourselves in the hope that
0:12
Speaker 1: can make a difference in your life. This year, missus
0:16
Speaker 1: Happy Families, mum of six kids, has embarked on a
0:21
Speaker 1: what would you call it, Kylie well being, self improvement,
0:24
Speaker 1: fitness journey, all of the above.
0:27
Speaker 2: I am training for old age. That is my that's
0:31
Speaker 2: my catchphrase. It's not very exciting, is it.
0:34
Speaker 1: I love it. And we're going to talk to you
0:35
Speaker 1: about the wins and losses and the extraordinary progress that
0:40
Speaker 1: Kylie has made. We know that this is one of
0:42
Speaker 1: those conversations that people have all the time, especially mum's
0:45
Speaker 1: conversations around body image, conversations around feeling good in your skin,
0:49
Speaker 1: conversations about what happens after you have babies and you
0:53
Speaker 1: just don't have.
0:53
Speaker 2: Time perry menopause. She wrecks havoc on your life.
0:59
Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about all because I think
1:01
Speaker 1: that it's reasonable to say that in the first ten
1:03
Speaker 1: weeks of this year, you have done something that you
1:05
Speaker 1: never thought you could do again, which is get amazing results.
1:10
Speaker 1: All of that to come as Missus Happy Families opens
1:13
Speaker 1: up about weight loss on the Happy Families podcast. Next,
1:19
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Happy Families podcast, where you
1:21
Speaker 1: get real parenting solutions every single day. This is Australia's
1:24
Speaker 1: most download of parenting podcasts, where Justin and Kylie calls
1:26
Speaker 1: some parents of six kids. Not so much parenting solutions today,
1:30
Speaker 1: Missus Happy Families, rather a conversation about your your journey.
1:35
Speaker 1: I don't like the word journey. It's one of those airy,
1:37
Speaker 1: fairy woo woo words. But let's go with it anyway,
1:40
Speaker 1: your journey with weight. Set the scene. Where does this
1:43
Speaker 1: all start?
1:44
Speaker 2: Well, I want to take you back to the very beginning.
1:46
Speaker 2: You and I we got married. I weighed about fifty five,
1:50
Speaker 2: anywhere between fifty five and fifty seven, depending on what
1:53
Speaker 2: day and what I did.
1:54
Speaker 1: And so for context, you are five foot ten. I
2:00
Speaker 1: don't know what that is in centimeters, one hundred and
2:01
Speaker 1: seventy six hundred and seventy eight centimeters, and you were
2:05
Speaker 1: in the mid fifties, supermodel, skinny, teeny teeny tiny.
2:10
Speaker 2: When I had our first child, I put on a
2:13
Speaker 2: total of eight kilos.
2:15
Speaker 1: And she weighed something like five of those kilos, and
2:19
Speaker 1: then there was the after birth and the placentro and
2:20
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff.
2:21
Speaker 2: So within six weeks I was back in my old clothes,
2:25
Speaker 2: feeling like my old self. But three years later, when
2:28
Speaker 2: I fell pregnant with baby number two, I put on
2:31
Speaker 2: twenty kilos. I felt like just I sneezed and it
2:33
Speaker 2: was there. And I fell pregnant again very very shortly
2:37
Speaker 2: after that, so I only lost ten kilos with her
2:40
Speaker 2: and then put another twenty kilos. So by the time
2:43
Speaker 2: we'd had baby number three, I was already sitting at
2:45
Speaker 2: about ninety five kilos, and over the ensuing fifteen to
2:52
Speaker 2: twenty years, I have bounced back and forth between that
2:56
Speaker 2: kind of seventy eight to eighty kilos up to to
3:00
Speaker 2: date was almost one hundred kilos.
3:02
Speaker 1: So there was one section, maybe fifteen years ago where
3:05
Speaker 1: you got really consistent, really fit, started exercising literally every
3:09
Speaker 1: single day with a friend when we were living in Wollongong.
3:11
Speaker 1: Shout out to a Lissa because we know a listener
3:13
Speaker 1: and David still listen to the pod even all these
3:15
Speaker 1: years later, which we really appreciate. And you drop back
3:17
Speaker 1: down to something that was in the mid.
3:19
Speaker 2: Seventies which is around thirty kilos with her help, it's.
3:23
Speaker 1: Around your healthy weight range, right, Like, if you plug
3:26
Speaker 1: it all into the computer systems and things, they'll usually
3:28
Speaker 1: tell you that that's somewhere around where you're supposed to be.
3:31
Speaker 1: So let's talk about now the last couple of years
3:35
Speaker 1: perimenopause and higher levels of dissatisfaction.
3:39
Speaker 2: I don't think there is a single person I've spoken
3:41
Speaker 2: to who has anything nice to say about perimenoporse.
3:44
Speaker 1: Nobody says I was so excited for this, all these changes,
3:47
Speaker 1: they're just great.
3:49
Speaker 2: All the changes have been so much to take in.
3:53
Speaker 1: Incidentally, when I share a well being chart that looks
3:56
Speaker 1: at people in different age groups in terms of their
3:59
Speaker 1: rates of mental illness and their well being, we've got
4:02
Speaker 1: a really big spike with mental illness challenges in our
4:05
Speaker 1: young people, and then things sort of settled down from
4:07
Speaker 1: about the age of thirty, and then for females in
4:10
Speaker 1: the forty five to fifty four age range, there's just
4:13
Speaker 1: this massive mental illness spike. Depression, anxiety, stress, dissatisfaction, all
4:19
Speaker 1: of the bad stuff and none of the good stuff.
4:21
Speaker 1: And I always pointed out, now that we've been through this,
4:23
Speaker 1: I always pointed out and say what do you think
4:25
Speaker 1: is going on here? For women? And the whole audience
4:27
Speaker 1: just erupts. The men look, the men look dazed and confused.
4:29
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't know what's going on? What's going on?
4:30
Speaker 2: What's this?
4:31
Speaker 1: And all the women are just going, oh my goodness. Yeah.
4:34
Speaker 1: And one there's always one person in the crowd who
4:37
Speaker 1: will shout it out out loud as like, so that
4:39
Speaker 1: everybody there's no confusion perimenopause. She will never say it softly.
4:44
Speaker 1: It's always loud, and then hilarity ensues as we realize
4:49
Speaker 1: just how impactful it is.
4:51
Speaker 2: So for the last couple of years, I have actually
4:53
Speaker 2: got to a point where I was feeling completely helpless,
4:56
Speaker 2: completely hopeless, and just felt I was destined to live
5:00
Speaker 2: at this life of this big, uncomfortable, cumbersome body of
5:05
Speaker 2: mine that was just not aging well at all. Like
5:11
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the ability to be flexible and just
5:16
Speaker 2: move comfortably in your own skin. Sitting was hard, standing
5:20
Speaker 2: was hard, bending was hard, all of it.
5:23
Speaker 1: And at the risk of saying something uncomfortable and perhaps
5:25
Speaker 1: not the most polite, You've watched your mum go through this, right,
5:29
Speaker 1: And you always said, I don't want to be like mum,
5:31
Speaker 1: and yet it was starting to happen. But you started
5:36
Speaker 1: having some conversation with some friends, and I think this
5:38
Speaker 1: is the really important part of this discussion that kind
5:42
Speaker 1: of gets us to where we are. Talk us through
5:44
Speaker 1: the conversations you started having with several of your friends
5:47
Speaker 1: around you.
5:48
Speaker 2: So one of my friends had just recently had a
5:50
Speaker 2: tummy tuck, and she was just in seventh Heaven just
5:54
Speaker 2: talking about how for the first time she felt comfortable
5:57
Speaker 2: being back in her jeans and she was just so excited.
6:01
Speaker 2: And it got me thinking. I thought, what would that
6:04
Speaker 2: mean for me if I could just have somebody take
6:07
Speaker 2: it all away. At the same time, I had a
6:10
Speaker 2: couple of other friends who had decided to go down
6:13
Speaker 2: the gastric banding.
6:15
Speaker 1: So that's the thing where they put bands around your stomach,
6:18
Speaker 1: literally shrink your stomach so you can't eat as much food.
6:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And thought about that, and I watched one
6:25
Speaker 2: of my friends in particular, she could be a poster
6:28
Speaker 2: child for this procedure, like for when it works, she
6:31
Speaker 2: looks amazing, she is living her best life. It's like
6:34
Speaker 2: she's got a new lease of life.
6:36
Speaker 1: She doesn't get to eat much food, though she doesn't
6:38
Speaker 1: get to eat much because the whole idea is your
6:40
Speaker 1: stomach is small and the only way you can stay
6:41
Speaker 1: that size is to restrict your calories. Yeah.
6:44
Speaker 2: And then there were a few other friends who had
6:46
Speaker 2: decided to actually try the weight loss.
6:48
Speaker 1: Injections, so the gp ones Yeah. Yeah.
6:52
Speaker 2: And so I was kind of just mulling over all
6:54
Speaker 2: of these options and none of them felt good in
6:57
Speaker 2: my skin, Like I just it didn't feel good, but
7:01
Speaker 2: I felt like there was no other option available to me.
7:05
Speaker 2: I had been moving my body regularly. I felt like
7:08
Speaker 2: I had a really well balanced diet. I knew that
7:10
Speaker 2: I was eating probably more sugar than I should, but
7:13
Speaker 2: overall I was getting lots of fruits and vegetables, I
7:15
Speaker 2: was eating good meats, and I felt like across the board,
7:19
Speaker 2: I was doing okay.
7:20
Speaker 1: So at this point, you go and see the doctor
7:22
Speaker 1: to discuss what you're thinking. After the break, we need
7:25
Speaker 1: to talk about your doctor's response and what you decided
7:30
Speaker 1: to do instead. We're back. This is the Happy Families
7:40
Speaker 1: podcast where you get real parenting, real life solutions, real
7:45
Speaker 1: way loss solutions every single day when you listen to
7:47
Speaker 1: the podcast. Thanks so much for joining us Kylie, You've
7:52
Speaker 1: listened to all of your friends. They're talking about how
7:53
Speaker 1: they're doing all of these I don't know if the
7:56
Speaker 1: word is radical or extreme because they're so commonplace now,
7:59
Speaker 1: but certainly they're pretty invasive. They're quite intensive.
8:02
Speaker 2: Think about a tummy touch. You're literally cutting your body
8:04
Speaker 2: in half.
8:05
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to call that extreme. I know it's commonplace,
8:07
Speaker 1: but it is still pretty extreme.
8:08
Speaker 2: Like you go gastric banding, You're literally tying a rubber
8:12
Speaker 2: band around your stomach.
8:14
Speaker 1: And I need to be really careful with how I
8:17
Speaker 1: say this because I don't want to come across as
8:20
Speaker 1: insensitive or inappropriate in any way. I've always been a
8:25
Speaker 1: We've always been a family that teaches the kids we
8:27
Speaker 1: can do hard things and if you're going to do something,
8:31
Speaker 1: you want to do it, it's the right way. The
8:33
Speaker 1: right word I'm looking for, Like, there's ways that you
8:37
Speaker 1: can do things that are a little bit harder, but
8:38
Speaker 1: you'll usually get a better payoff by doing it. There's
8:41
Speaker 1: no triumph without the trial. You've got to love the hills.
8:43
Speaker 1: Resilience off and doesn't feel like you're being resilient. We've
8:45
Speaker 1: got all these things that we talk to the kids
8:47
Speaker 1: about all the time. So when you were talking about
8:49
Speaker 1: these things, I basically said to you, you get to choose,
8:52
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to tell you one way or
8:53
Speaker 1: the other. But I still feel like if we can
8:56
Speaker 1: just dial in our our systems, our protocol, our eating,
9:00
Speaker 1: and our exercise, I think that we can sort this
9:04
Speaker 1: out without having to do something so extreme. And you
9:07
Speaker 1: said to me, my body just doesn't work like everybody
9:09
Speaker 1: else's bodies. Because I said that the basic equation is
9:12
Speaker 1: calories in need to be lower than calories out, and
9:16
Speaker 1: I just have to.
9:16
Speaker 2: Highlight at this point, you and I would go and
9:19
Speaker 2: do the same amount of exercise. You eat twice as
9:21
Speaker 2: much as I eat, and you would drop kilos while
9:25
Speaker 2: I was gaining them.
9:26
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel fair. And so you were saying, well,
9:29
Speaker 1: I'm going through p perimenopause and my anatomy and my biology.
9:33
Speaker 1: It doesn't do what normal humans do because perimenopause is
9:36
Speaker 1: not a human thing that humans have to go through.
9:38
Speaker 1: It was just and I don't know, I'm not an expert,
9:41
Speaker 1: and that I've got a PhD in psychology, I don't
9:42
Speaker 1: know human systems like that. But I said, why don't
9:48
Speaker 1: you just go and have a chat with the doctor.
9:49
Speaker 1: In my mind, I thought the doctor was going to say,
9:52
Speaker 1: Justin's right, just go and exercise, get your diet under control,
9:56
Speaker 1: and you'll be just fine. What happened with the doctor.
10:00
Speaker 2: About eighteen months ago. I decided to book in have
10:02
Speaker 2: a chat with her and tell her what I was
10:05
Speaker 2: feeling and what I was thinking. At that point, I
10:07
Speaker 2: was leaning towards a tummy tuck, and I talked her
10:10
Speaker 2: through my reasoning. I talked to her through I guess
10:13
Speaker 2: that hopelessness that I was feeling the fact that my
10:16
Speaker 2: hormones were just running havoc, and I just I felt,
10:19
Speaker 2: I felt really just despondent in my being. And she
10:25
Speaker 2: completely agreed that that was the right thing for me
10:29
Speaker 2: to do. Yeah. So we talked briefly about my food intake,
10:34
Speaker 2: we talked briefly about my exercise, but at no point
10:39
Speaker 2: was there any exploration into what I meant when I
10:43
Speaker 2: said I've tried everything.
10:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I want to be sensitive to we know,
10:47
Speaker 1: we get emails regularly from doctors and pediatricians and so on.
10:51
Speaker 1: I want to be sensitive that we're not throwing doctors
10:54
Speaker 1: under the bus here, but what we are highlighting is
10:56
Speaker 1: that the medical system is not designed for what people
10:58
Speaker 1: like Peter A. Tia and Andrew Hueman would call what
11:02
Speaker 1: medicine three point zero. It's still very much intervention, pharmacological
11:08
Speaker 1: and surgical responses to challenges, whereas we would probably prefer
11:15
Speaker 1: to have a doctor say, well, I'm not a dietitian,
11:18
Speaker 1: I'm not a nutritionist.
11:19
Speaker 2: Maybe you should see it.
11:20
Speaker 1: Maybe you could see one go and try something before
11:22
Speaker 1: we start sawing your body in half, so that we
11:24
Speaker 1: can make these really significant interventions. So the GP said,
11:31
Speaker 1: let's get you off to the specialist and get this
11:32
Speaker 1: locked in.
11:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, would you like a referral? I said, you know what,
11:35
Speaker 2: I'm just going to sit on this for a little
11:36
Speaker 2: bit longer. This is a really big decision. I'll come
11:38
Speaker 2: back to you if I need that. And so over
11:41
Speaker 2: the next few months, as I continued to have conversations
11:43
Speaker 2: with friends and get more and more frustrated with my
11:45
Speaker 2: body and what it was doing and not doing, I
11:50
Speaker 2: started to wonder if there was a different way, And
11:54
Speaker 2: out of the blue, one of my friends decided to
11:56
Speaker 2: do one of those eight week challenges at the gym
11:59
Speaker 2: right and I was completely unaware, but She had been
12:02
Speaker 2: part of a bigger conversation with a group of friends,
12:06
Speaker 2: and she decided at the end of it that she
12:08
Speaker 2: would post her before and after photos. They'd obviously had
12:12
Speaker 2: a conversation with that I wasn't privy to. And when
12:15
Speaker 2: I saw those photos, knowing full well that she's living
12:18
Speaker 2: life exactly like me and feeling all the same things
12:21
Speaker 2: that I'm feeling.
12:22
Speaker 1: Big family, trying to run a business, stretched like crazy,
12:26
Speaker 1: not enough time, not enough money, not enough anything.
12:28
Speaker 2: Eight weeks it was chalk and cheese what she'd achieved.
12:32
Speaker 2: It was still obvious that there was a long way
12:33
Speaker 2: for her to go, but there was physical change in
12:37
Speaker 2: her body, and it was so inspiring that I literally
12:40
Speaker 2: said to her, how do I do what you just?
12:42
Speaker 1: Yeah? I want what you're having.
12:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah. And so she said, well, actually there's
12:46
Speaker 2: another talent starting at the beginning of the year. I'm
12:48
Speaker 2: thinking of signing up for it again. And I said, well,
12:51
Speaker 2: I'm in. I'm in. All the way I came home,
12:54
Speaker 2: I talked to you about it, I shared the photos.
12:56
Speaker 1: And I was Debbie Downer, you were a bit I
13:00
Speaker 1: just said, I don't feel like these and again, if
13:03
Speaker 1: these work for you, I want to be sensitive. I'm
13:05
Speaker 1: not saying there's a right or wrong here. We're just
13:07
Speaker 1: sharing what our experience was. My concern was that these
13:11
Speaker 1: kinds of challenges are often not sustainable. You're supposed to
13:16
Speaker 1: put your body through all of this stuff for eight
13:18
Speaker 1: weeks and then everything's supposed to, I don't know, be better.
13:22
Speaker 1: You've created these new habits, and as it turned out
13:25
Speaker 1: that friend, everything that she'd lost she put back on
13:27
Speaker 1: before the next day we challenge commenced, which kind of
13:31
Speaker 1: I looked at you and said, this is what I'm
13:32
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm not convinced this is going to be
13:34
Speaker 1: the right way to go for us. It might be
13:36
Speaker 1: fine for other people, but I don't think that's the
13:38
Speaker 1: right thing for us.
13:39
Speaker 2: However, in spite of all of your poo pooing, poo
13:43
Speaker 2: pooing about ten of us decided that we were going
13:47
Speaker 2: to sign up together. Meantime, you and I started talking
13:51
Speaker 2: about what this year would look like.
13:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we did this quarterly get away. We go
13:54
Speaker 1: away for one or two nights. We have a conversation
13:56
Speaker 1: about what our goals are. Every quarter we review what
13:59
Speaker 1: we've been doing and what we are planning to do.
14:01
Speaker 1: And we set up literally an implementation plan to run
14:05
Speaker 1: that strategy so that we can achieve our goals. And
14:07
Speaker 1: so in what was it mid to late December, just
14:09
Speaker 1: before Christmas, we went away and had two nights, and
14:13
Speaker 1: the bulk of the conversation for you at least, was
14:16
Speaker 1: built around what was going to be the eight week challenge,
14:19
Speaker 1: but then we kind of changed our mind.
14:21
Speaker 2: The thing that stands out to me the most about
14:23
Speaker 2: that conversation was the very first question. I asked you,
14:26
Speaker 2: if you could pick two or three words that would
14:29
Speaker 2: describe what twenty twenty six would look like, what would
14:33
Speaker 2: those words be?
14:34
Speaker 1: And I groaned and went, ah, I hate doing these
14:36
Speaker 1: word things, but fine, And I think that the first
14:40
Speaker 1: one that I said was vitality. Yeah, because I had
14:43
Speaker 1: just come off six weeks of recovering from food poisoning
14:46
Speaker 1: and had lost seven kilos, but I felt horrible. I
14:48
Speaker 1: still couldn't eat, and yeah, I just wanted to feel
14:52
Speaker 1: vital and strong again. And the second one that I
14:55
Speaker 1: chose was the three with vitality, intension, and connection.
15:00
Speaker 2: That became the foundation for how we looked at this year.
15:07
Speaker 2: And this is like a really important part of the
15:10
Speaker 2: journey you've got to pick things that you love doing firstly,
15:14
Speaker 2: and secondly, have a friend.
15:17
Speaker 1: To get someone because when you've got that commitment with
15:21
Speaker 1: someone and you've got that appointment, you just show up,
15:23
Speaker 1: You just go and do it.
15:24
Speaker 2: I get out of bed each morning because I know
15:26
Speaker 2: that you're going to be there and we're going to
15:27
Speaker 2: do a bike ride together, Whereas it's so much harder
15:30
Speaker 2: if I'm getting up at the crack of dawn to
15:33
Speaker 2: just go and push out some.
15:35
Speaker 1: Cases like keep I'm saying resilience is relational. It's so
15:38
Speaker 1: much easier to do this stuff when you've got somebody
15:40
Speaker 1: who's by your side. A quick word on the gym
15:43
Speaker 1: thing as well. I just don't like gyms, and I've
15:46
Speaker 1: had this on and off relationship with Jim's for decades
15:49
Speaker 1: because I don't like gyms. But I've been really enamored by,
15:52
Speaker 1: really captured by gymnasts. Like I watched what gymnasts can
15:58
Speaker 1: do and how strong they are. It's just body weight stuff, right,
16:01
Speaker 1: they're on the rings and they're they're able to do
16:03
Speaker 1: these incredible things. And I discovered calisthenics. I remember years
16:08
Speaker 1: ago somebody was telling me about calisthenics. And I rolled
16:10
Speaker 1: my eyes. I'm like, oh, my goodness, how lame. I've
16:13
Speaker 1: discovered calisthenics, and I'm like, these these people are so
16:17
Speaker 1: staggeringly strong.
16:19
Speaker 2: You go down a rabbit hole of reels when you wells.
16:24
Speaker 1: And so I've been looking on and off for the
16:28
Speaker 1: last four or five years for a gym on the
16:30
Speaker 1: Sunshine Coast that meets that sort of calisthenic emphasis. And
16:36
Speaker 1: I don't know how I've never found it before, but
16:38
Speaker 1: there's a gym that started about three years ago that
16:40
Speaker 1: is just down the road from us. I called, I
16:43
Speaker 1: had a chat, told him what were after he said, yeah,
16:45
Speaker 1: come on in, I reckon, I can fit you in.
16:48
Speaker 1: And it was just the best and it has been
16:52
Speaker 1: ever since.
16:53
Speaker 2: And then two other things that I think were really important.
16:57
Speaker 2: I increased my water consumption. This is something that anybody
17:01
Speaker 2: can do. And I had no idea how totally dehydrated
17:08
Speaker 2: every cell in my body was because I don't drink
17:11
Speaker 2: enough water. So I went from drinking probably an average
17:14
Speaker 2: of one to two glasses of water a day up
17:17
Speaker 2: to nearly three liters of water a day. The difference
17:21
Speaker 2: that that has made, like that is power. Just that
17:25
Speaker 2: one decision and the last decision I made was eliminating
17:31
Speaker 2: process sugars. Refined sugars.
17:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not fanatical about it.
17:35
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I'm not perfect at it.
17:37
Speaker 2: But previous to that decision, refined sugars were in my
17:41
Speaker 2: every day and probably every meal content.
17:46
Speaker 1: So we're kind of out of time here. But if
17:47
Speaker 1: I was to highlight what I've seen for eight weeks
17:51
Speaker 1: or ten weeks basically from somewhere between Christmas and New
17:55
Speaker 1: Year right up to now ten maybe eleven weeks now,
17:57
Speaker 1: you have consistently ridden your bike about a half hundred
18:00
Speaker 1: and fifty to two hundred k's a week. You have
18:02
Speaker 1: consistently gone to the gym three days a week. You've
18:05
Speaker 1: got a program, You've got a personal trainer who is
18:08
Speaker 1: guiding you through that and making sure that you're doing
18:10
Speaker 1: everything right and being consistent. You've got resilience is relational.
18:15
Speaker 1: At least three or four nights a week, but sometimes more.
18:17
Speaker 1: You and I go for a walk with the dog
18:19
Speaker 1: after the dishes are done for about four or five
18:21
Speaker 1: k's and that is a game changing. You've been off
18:24
Speaker 1: the process sugars. You're drinking water and the other thing
18:29
Speaker 1: that I just love that you've done is you started
18:31
Speaker 1: taking photos and doing measurements when this began.
18:35
Speaker 2: So because my friends were doing that eight week challenge,
18:38
Speaker 2: I after you and I discussed what we were doing,
18:40
Speaker 2: and I was making good progress. Within two weeks, I
18:43
Speaker 2: was feeling better in myself, and we decided that I
18:47
Speaker 2: would I would join the little group, the little band
18:50
Speaker 2: of women, and we would have conversations, but that I
18:52
Speaker 2: was going to continue doing eight weeks of my own challenge,
18:55
Speaker 2: my own work alongside them. And part of the challenge
18:58
Speaker 2: was you had to take a photo diary each Sunday.
19:00
Speaker 2: You had to check in with photos of front back.
19:04
Speaker 1: Inside, front, back, and side.
19:06
Speaker 2: And then take measurements of your arm, thigh, waist, and
19:11
Speaker 2: hip measurements. And so I decided that if it was
19:15
Speaker 2: good enough for them, that I would do that. And
19:16
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I did, because it's so easy to
19:19
Speaker 2: look in the mirror on a day to day basis
19:22
Speaker 2: and actually.
19:24
Speaker 1: Not to feel like you're not doing anything.
19:26
Speaker 2: And if I relied only on the scales, they're the
19:30
Speaker 2: worst thing in the whole wide world.
19:32
Speaker 1: So we are out of time, but give us the results.
19:36
Speaker 1: This whole conversation is a built up to the results
19:38
Speaker 1: and after ten or eleven weeks, where are you? How's
19:44
Speaker 1: this going for you? Oh? Sorry, you've also been getting
19:46
Speaker 1: You've had this thing called an in body scan, which
19:48
Speaker 1: is kind of like a you can go and spend
19:50
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars on those big expensive Dexa scans, or
19:53
Speaker 1: you can go and spend fifty nine dollars on an
19:55
Speaker 1: in body scan. So you had one a few weeks
19:58
Speaker 1: in and then you had another one just in last
20:00
Speaker 1: week or two. What are your results?
20:03
Speaker 2: So I've lost a total of four kilos of total
20:07
Speaker 2: body fat mass. When she actually handed me the prototype
20:12
Speaker 2: fat prototype of two point three kilos, she looked at me.
20:16
Speaker 2: She said, coylie, you've lost nearly two of these. When
20:19
Speaker 2: I felt it, like the weight of it number one,
20:22
Speaker 2: the size of it number two, I literally wanted to
20:25
Speaker 2: cry because I can't see that on my body, Like
20:30
Speaker 2: I can see that my shape has changed.
20:32
Speaker 1: We can see it in the photos.
20:33
Speaker 2: But I can't. It was like when they first handed
20:36
Speaker 2: me a baby, where did she come from? Ye?
20:38
Speaker 1: Like?
20:38
Speaker 2: How did she fit inside me? Like I'm looking at
20:40
Speaker 2: this weight and the recognition that I'm no longer carrying
20:45
Speaker 2: that I'm no longer having to walk that around every
20:49
Speaker 2: day was really really empowering. But the biggest number that
20:53
Speaker 2: was the scariest to see on the page when I
20:55
Speaker 2: had my first GAM was my visceral fat. So that's
20:57
Speaker 2: the unhealthy fat that's literally tucked in around all of
21:01
Speaker 2: your organis.
21:02
Speaker 1: So that's the internal fat that you don't actually see.
21:04
Speaker 1: It's wrapping around your heart and your lungs, and it's
21:06
Speaker 1: wrapping around your kidney and your liver.
21:07
Speaker 2: So that's what causes all the bad stuff diabetes, heart disease,
21:11
Speaker 2: all of that.
21:12
Speaker 1: So subcutaneous fat is the fat that you can see,
21:15
Speaker 1: but viscral fat is deep down on the inside so
21:17
Speaker 1: you don't actually see. That, is what you're saying.
21:19
Speaker 2: That's what causes the big fat tummy as Perryman pause,
21:23
Speaker 2: a woman where no one for a hormonal belly, that's what.
21:26
Speaker 1: So it's visceral fat.
21:27
Speaker 2: It's all viscraal fat.
21:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what was the number?
21:30
Speaker 2: It was nearly double what it would be to be
21:32
Speaker 2: on the absolute highest end of healthy, right, not the
21:37
Speaker 2: low end, the high end. So I was looking at
21:39
Speaker 2: about one hundred and eighty centimeters squared of visceral fat,
21:43
Speaker 2: A hundred or below is what I'm aiming for.
21:46
Speaker 1: So is that the start or is that the one way?
21:47
Speaker 2: That was at the start, and I knew it was
21:50
Speaker 2: going to be bad, but to actually see it on
21:54
Speaker 2: a page was a real eye opener. But the wonderful
21:59
Speaker 2: thing at that time the guy who helped me with
22:03
Speaker 2: the scan, he just said, Kylie, you keep doing what
22:05
Speaker 2: you're doing, and he said that number is going to shift.
22:08
Speaker 2: Not like the scales where I'm seeing three hundred grams
22:10
Speaker 2: a week or something. He said, you're going to see
22:12
Speaker 2: a massive shift. So after eight weeks, I decided I
22:15
Speaker 2: really wanted to see if I had done that, because
22:17
Speaker 2: the scales are not kind. It's a very very slow grind.
22:21
Speaker 2: I've lost nearly twenty five centimeters squared. This are all fat.
22:26
Speaker 1: So you've gone for all eight weeks, You've gone for
22:28
Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty two, one hundred and fifties
22:31
Speaker 1: fifty something six. I think, wow, yeah.
22:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, which means if I can continue doing what I'm
22:37
Speaker 2: doing within the next sixteen weeks, I could be very
22:42
Speaker 2: close to one hundred. Like That's how tangible that is
22:46
Speaker 2: to me now, whereas before it just felt so overwhelming.
22:51
Speaker 2: So unachievable, and my body wasn't working.
22:54
Speaker 1: So let's just also, what we've discovered is that the
22:57
Speaker 1: number on the scale is not that important. What matters
22:59
Speaker 1: is what's going on the inside. But you've dropped from
23:02
Speaker 1: nearly one hundred kilos to you're tapping on the door
23:05
Speaker 1: of the ninety ones. Now you're in the very low
23:07
Speaker 1: ninety two range in that sort of eight to ten
23:10
Speaker 1: week period. And you've also gained muscle.
23:14
Speaker 2: Mass three hundred grams.
23:16
Speaker 1: Right okay, which again means you're losing weight, but you're
23:18
Speaker 1: gaining weight, you gaining the right.
23:19
Speaker 2: I thought it was a pretty puny amount until she
23:22
Speaker 2: acknowledged to me that for a woman, between one kilo
23:27
Speaker 2: and one point two kilos a year is phenomenal.
23:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, So you've done a third of that in eight, nine,
23:35
Speaker 1: ten weeks. So let's wrap this up. Take home messages
23:38
Speaker 1: for people who are listening and going, oh gee, I
23:40
Speaker 1: really want to do that, but I was going to
23:42
Speaker 1: do the eight week challenge, or I'm I'm just so
23:44
Speaker 1: time poor, I'm so stuck. What do you think has
23:47
Speaker 1: made this work for you when previously it hasn't worked,
23:50
Speaker 1: or you've just sort of thought, No, I just need
23:52
Speaker 1: to book in and take some pills or do something
23:55
Speaker 1: more invasive.
23:56
Speaker 2: So the first thing for me is knowledge is power.
23:59
Speaker 2: The more you know how your body works, the more
24:02
Speaker 2: competent you feel to do what is needed to meet
24:06
Speaker 2: those requirements. The second thing is adherence, Like, we just
24:11
Speaker 2: have to be consistent over time. I didn't just put
24:16
Speaker 2: on thirty or forty kilos overnight. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
24:20
Speaker 2: so this has been a twenty year You were hearing.
24:23
Speaker 1: To that process for twenty years? Yes, yeah, So how
24:26
Speaker 1: long do you need to adhere to this process to
24:28
Speaker 1: reverse what took twenty years to do?
24:30
Speaker 2: And while an eight week challenge might be a great
24:32
Speaker 2: booster to get you started, and for me it was motivation.
24:35
Speaker 2: I saw what my friend achieved. Funnily enough, out of
24:39
Speaker 2: the ten women that signed up to do that challenge,
24:43
Speaker 2: there was only one or two who actually adhered to
24:46
Speaker 2: the challenge for the most part. They were definitely not
24:49
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but ninety five percent of them. Yeah,
24:54
Speaker 2: they gave up, They fell off because life is challenging.
24:58
Speaker 1: Okay, so take our messages. You need knowledge is power.
25:01
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to do something that you
25:02
Speaker 1: enjoy doing. Do it with someone, and here like sticking
25:07
Speaker 1: with stick stick with the plan, stick with it at a.
25:10
Speaker 2: Photo diary on the photo powerful.
25:13
Speaker 1: And take those measurements literally, get the little journal out
25:15
Speaker 1: and take the measurements. All right, We've gone way over time,
25:18
Speaker 1: but I just feel like the story is inspiring. I
25:20
Speaker 1: feel like it's important, and I know how often people
25:23
Speaker 1: will have these conversations and say it and not what
25:24
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do. We're not telling you what to do,
25:27
Speaker 1: but we do want to share with you that this
25:28
Speaker 1: is working. A real treat. Find someone you can work with,
25:31
Speaker 1: do something that you really want to do, pay to
25:34
Speaker 1: get some help if your finances will allow it, and
25:37
Speaker 1: then just stick at it and don't expect it to
25:39
Speaker 1: happen overnight, because it doesn't. But my goodness, you're looking fantastic.
25:45
Speaker 1: Thanks can't wait to see what happens over the next
25:48
Speaker 1: eight or ten weeks. We'll keep you updated because we
25:51
Speaker 1: just feel like this is something that is inspiring and
25:53
Speaker 1: exciting and we'd love to share that with you. Thanks
25:55
Speaker 1: so much for listening. We hope that you've got something
25:56
Speaker 1: out of it. The Happy Family's podcast is produced by
25:58
Speaker 1: Justin Roland from Bridge Meat Mumhammonds provides our additional admin
26:03
Speaker 1: and research support. If you'd like more. In fun to
26:05
Speaker 1: make your family happier, visit us at happy families dot
26:07
Speaker 1: com dot u