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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are on Akiliya, Karen Resh
- 0:03Sadhivag, the last Saif Samer tete Kola Shuri.
- 0:11So everything we learn now about all these Shuri and how far you
- 0:15have to distance when you're planting the vine from the
- 0:19grain, vice versa, Inam Ella the Eretz Israel.
- 0:23So everything we learned until now, well, I don't want to say
- 0:26everything but the distance part only applies in eritiser El
- 0:32that's Midairaisa or this Surya or in Surya, right?
- 0:38That's Miderabanan because David Hamela was conquered Surya as
- 0:44well. So Khazal hai kumiru on Surya, I
- 0:48have this Kili hakaram. I think we learned this is only
- 0:52all of these halakhas of Tuiya baharets, right?
- 0:55They only apply in eritiser. So that's Kili Akkaram should
- 0:58only apply in era tisaral, Kilai's rhyme only applies in
- 1:02era tisaral. But khazal hakkumiru on Kilai
- 1:05hakkaram dafka in Hutzlar it's only midera bana.
- 1:10So we're going to see Bikula because it's only in Hutzlar,
- 1:14it's Midera Bana and in Khmiru by Kiliakkaram because the
- 1:19produce, if one violates Kiliakkaram, the produce again
- 1:25with Malchus or without Malchus if depending on the case.
- 1:27But once it's together, right, only time, we're going to see
- 1:31again when you're high of Dereisa, we're going to read
- 1:34that in a moment to get Malchus. But anyways, in Kiliya Karim,
- 1:39it's Asser Behan. Nah, that's the main point.
- 1:42Kili's Ryan in Israel in Israel is only Asser Bahila, so they
- 1:49were only goes there. In Hutzlar it's Kaliya Karim.
- 1:52When in Israel there's a esser of Hana aval Bahutzlar, it's
- 1:59mutter lizroa bitsa da gufanium bittoch hakarim lekhad Khila.
- 2:05OK, so that's one difference here, right?
- 2:07We talked about 6 talking Daledamos away in order to so
- 2:12that the produce doesn't become asir.
- 2:14So we say like this, it's Mutter and Hutzla Arts, right?
- 2:20Like Aquila 1 is allowed to plant the two right near each
- 2:24other, right? You want to sell it to a Goi,
- 2:26whatever it is. You want to plant them right
- 2:28near each other? Well, we're going to see that
- 2:35it's going to be, it could still be Usser, but Aquila.
- 2:39So yeah, you can. I don't know.
- 2:41You want to make soap shampoo out of it for yourself.
- 2:44OK, that's fine too. So to be Zoraya, one right near
- 2:49each other. So then on top of each other,
- 2:53careful, you might have an issue of Harkova, but right near each
- 2:57other is no problem, even though it'll be Aserbehila, correct?
- 3:01Let's keep reading the low Aserbehutzela, aretz, ella
- 3:05lizeroa shemina yarek ottevua IMA hartzandruma polatiat even
- 3:11to have it mixed together. Remember, Herkova is user and
- 3:16Khutzlarz right now we're talking about South Review over
- 3:20there. So you don't violate anything
- 3:22here. We're focused on Kilae hakaram.
- 3:25So if you want to plant them together, so right near each
- 3:30other, wait, we said you can't plant them.
- 3:35You're allowed to plant them right near each other.
- 3:37What's user to do? What's user to plant in
- 3:40Khutzlarz? It's only if you take basically
- 3:43the three different seeds all at once, 2 grains, 2 your
- 3:49vegetables, whatever, plus your one Grapevine seed, and then you
- 3:54throw it down together in the dirt and you cover it up and you
- 3:57grow it that throwing it down in the dirt together.
- 3:59That's the only time in Hutzlaritz it's usser to plant
- 4:05and that's the only way you can be over Kalia Carib.
- 4:08For the planting part, we're going to get to the eat the
- 4:12eating part soon. OK, But that's also the only
- 4:15time when you plant them together all at once.
- 4:19That's the only time an Aritz Israel where it's ussered the
- 4:23arisa with malchus. Otherwise, if you just plant it
- 4:27near each other, it's also an ISR de araisa, but it's ilga
- 4:32malchus. OK, that's from before.
- 4:33OK, so that's why we have this little chilik over here, the IM
- 4:37Amar Latino goy. Now what if you ask a minor, a
- 4:41non Jew who's not bar mitzvah, he's ROA lobe chutz lauretz
- 4:45mutter. You could even have in chutz
- 4:48lauretz. You can do everything all
- 4:50together, whatever you want. You can ask a little goy to do
- 4:54it for you generally, right? You're going to have an adult
- 4:56working for you on your plantation.
- 4:58So let's what is so what's Morla maisa aval Loyolmar la goiga
- 5:03Dolce Lloyd khalif B Israel. But Khazal said even though it's
- 5:07mutter to plant all together all three in Flitzlaritz, that's
- 5:12when it's asser. They said you're allowed to
- 5:17right? So to do that is asser and even
- 5:19to have a an adult, right, That's normally who you're gonna
- 5:22have working for you. You're gonna have an even to
- 5:25have to pay an adult to plant them all together would have
- 5:29been OK, but they said that's still us because we don't want
- 5:33you to start hiring, you know, workers for your plantation to
- 5:36plant them together. Mamash, right.
- 5:38The two and the one, all three together and then 33, right,
- 5:433C's on full at the end. And Hutzlards.
- 5:47We're talking about Hutzlards. So then if you're going to so
- 5:52therefore you're not allowed to have an adult goy do that for
- 5:55you because we're afraid once you start hiring and telling
- 5:58your non Jewish workers to do this, then you're going to start
- 6:01telling your Jewish workers to do it.
- 6:03Then you end up saying it's Ruslar.
- 6:04It's still OK, but it's not OK to put the three together.
- 6:07If they're just working the land and they're and they're putting
- 6:10them near each other that you could do it yourself.
- 6:14You can hire workers to do that for you.
- 6:17OK, but a cut then we're we're not we're not goes there that
- 6:24far. That's basically Natas is even
- 6:27like Akhila. You you can have a child do
- 6:30that. I don't know child.
- 6:31He's always he doesn't say like Akhila.
- 6:33You can have child labour. He says it's not an issue of
- 6:35Kileakaran, but that's a separate topic.
- 6:39Anything else here? Fine.
- 6:41OK, let's go on be awful. Pisha mutterly Zoroa Hygaric
- 6:45Bitsad Akharan now, now we just learned that you're allowed to
- 6:50plant them and grow them near each other and get right, you're
- 6:54allowed to how in the Hutzlar. It's however alright, you'll
- 6:59decide how practical that is for you because you can't eat it
- 7:01yourself. But Hutzlar, right Mahutzlar.
- 7:03It's we said you're allowed to plant them together, but there's
- 7:06a big butt, although it's it's probably a small butt, right,
- 7:11Talking about next to each other, next to each other.
- 7:13It's mutter like Akhila to plant them together, right?
- 7:18And to hire someone to do that for you also.
- 7:20But you decide if it's worth it for you could be let's keep
- 7:25reading. Harioto hagyerik hazaru hasham
- 7:28asar BA akhila. But the vegetable and the grain
- 7:34becomes Asar BA Akhila. That's how, that's how the, the,
- 7:39the Rambam Shokanarak paskin that it's Asar BA Akhila Mkhazan
- 7:45Ish. Actually, I didn't think that's
- 7:48what the Rambam says. I take it back.
- 7:50It's certainly what the Shaukanarak says.
- 7:52The cousin Ish says it's, it should be Aser Behana as well.
- 7:56I don't know, I ain't sham. But anyway, so here we are in
- 8:00the Shaukanarak. It says it's Aser Behila, but
- 8:03it's Mutter Behana, right? So that's what we'll go with the
- 8:07Afilu Behukhutsila arts and even in Hutzla arts even in one
- 8:15second, right. So even in Hutz art it's going
- 8:17to be Aser Baquila, but but you can get benefit from it.
- 8:21You can sell it. You can make the I'm assuming
- 8:23you can make a whole business out of it and can use it for
- 8:28your own personal hair products or whatever it is.
- 8:30But who's Shiyiro to locate U Mojair, a Los Feco motor now.
- 8:36So if you know about it, obviously.
- 8:38So he's just said it's Aser. But let's say you go to the the
- 8:43market. Generally speaking, when you go
- 8:45to the market, you see the produce there.
- 8:48You have no idea which plantation, which farm it's
- 8:51coming from. You don't know if it was planted
- 8:55right next to a vineyard or vice versa.
- 8:57So for you, it's a Suffolk when you go to the market.
- 8:59And therefore, even if it's commonly done, it's spaco and
- 9:05it's a mucho la catrilla to eat it and buy it, to buy and eat
- 9:08it, I'll just point out happens to be it's a maklokas.
- 9:11Regarding the grapes, the Deraka Muna says the grapes are aser
- 9:17when you know that they were planted next to each other.
- 9:21And the Arafa Shalkhan says it's mutter the Maklok is Bahila.
- 9:25The Arafa shalkhan's going to go with the shalkhanarak that it's
- 9:28mutter that it's mutter behana, but it's aser Bahila.
- 9:32So that's going on The shalkhanak says yarek.
- 9:35And the question is what about the grapes?
- 9:38So that is a Maclocarathon and it's it is a it's a decision
- 9:43Derabana. So OK, there's room to be Mako
- 9:47Haga no Vyesh Omrim the oil material Israel Yerk beside of
- 9:51finding Mahludzilla R it's Motorola Otto Yerk.
- 9:56Now the Rama quotes a Macal opinion.
- 10:00It says no, it's even motor to eat.
- 10:04Forget about the Maclocas but I know it's a mutter to eat and
- 10:09certainly get another such an opinion since you're allowed to
- 10:12plant them near each other. Just not been mapolat yacht one
- 10:15one time. Since you're allowed to plant it
- 10:17next to each other, you're so that rishon holds you're allowed
- 10:20to eat it as well. Mutter mutter lafola toyera
- 10:23gumkin vein lahu shalaba mapum Nikola Mehta shenezu schneemin
- 10:28ayera oshneemin ET tuvua IM hartzan the Mapolat yacht.
- 10:33And you have nothing to worry about unless you know it's
- 10:36common that they're going to do all three in one shot on the
- 10:41ground when they plant it. Not sure how common that is.
- 10:44So it it sounds like it's not so common and therefore you do not
- 10:48need to worry about that at all. And there is what to be Mako,
- 10:52the alkane nagula hakia. But we did not ELO vieracotta
- 10:57namesim Zurab Bakramin. So the Rama says even when you
- 11:03know of produce where it grew next to the vines in Hutzla
- 11:08Arts, the Minogue is among many at least is to be Mako.
- 11:14I'm not sure Lafatila, he or there are other postsky would
- 11:18say to be Mako when you know about it, but he says there is
- 11:21room to be Mako. That's been the Minogue.
- 11:24OK, fine. Let's go on to yes, in Hutz la
- 11:30Aritz la Khakila, you certainly I would say you need to make
- 11:33sure you there's a distance if you want to eat it.
- 11:36There's six Tvachim or Dalit almost just like in Eritrea.
- 11:40I would not follow the Makila pinion in the Ramallah Khakila.
- 11:44OK, let's at least start Hilchatkili zarine.
- 11:48All right, so that's all right. The mixtures of of produce other
- 11:52than vines and grapes, Aleph, azareya shaminae, zraim ke
- 11:58ehrhad berets, Israel loka. So here, once you plant two
- 12:04kinds of grains that are different, not in the same
- 12:07family, so then one gets one actually gets lashes and you
- 12:12don't have that same bracilia Carin to get lashes.
- 12:17All three must be thrown down together by Achilles Rayim.
- 12:22It's a little more strict in a sense that they don't have to be
- 12:25at the same time together thrown down.
- 12:28So we as it'll be obvious as we keep reading, Shin Amar Sadaka,
- 12:33you're field loktizrah Kil ayim. You don't plant kil ayim.
- 12:37The ekhad has zeraya. Now this applies even of course,
- 12:42just planting the seeds Haggah or Amen Nachesh.
- 12:45It even applies if it's already there and you're removing the
- 12:50the weeds because that's helping it grow or it's already there on
- 12:55the ground and now you add extra dirt to cover it up because all
- 13:00this is helping and you're doing a mycin, you're doing a physical
- 13:04action. So by doing an action, it's
- 13:07going to be an isser of love with Malchus.
- 13:11OK, this is Kelly's Ryan. You had one wheat and 1 barley
- 13:17and each one lying there. And or you have one bean of
- 13:25some, I don't know, lime of beans.
- 13:26I don't know, some random bean and then and then lentil that
- 13:32was one by lentils. Do you see have one of each on
- 13:34the ground, right? It's above the ground.
- 13:38So that's not great. What it's better to be under the
- 13:40ground. So then you cover it with you
- 13:43take dirt, you pick it up and you cover it up.
- 13:46Bane be Adobe in Baraglo. Even if you're using your leg
- 13:49bane bechlee or with a hand, hand, foot or a Clee.
- 13:54It's a utensil, shovel, whatever it is loca for any one of them.
- 13:57You get malkos. Sveka does zarea maritz.
- 14:01Well, this is whether you do it on the ground in the dirt or I'd
- 14:06say it's Naku or you have a pot that's on the dirt.
- 14:09We're not discussing if it has to be directly or not.
- 14:12We'll save that for another time.
- 14:13But here you have the the pot of dirt with and it has a hole,
- 14:16though in order to be Clive, it has to have a hole in the bottom
- 14:21of the pot. How thick of a hole?
- 14:23So they the Baragola points out it just it's from the Mishnah.
- 14:26It just has to be a big enough hole that the shores, one of the
- 14:31roots can get through so it doesn't have to actually get
- 14:34through. Just have to have a hole
- 14:37diameter big enough for a root to grow through.
- 14:40And then it'll be hayef OK, Ava azeraya batiche Nakov.
- 14:47If it's sealed from the bottom. All right.
- 14:49If you go, if you when you buy pots, sometimes they come with
- 14:52holes and sometimes they don't come with holes.
- 14:55Often you need to make a hole if they don't come with a hole, but
- 14:58whatever Makinoto makat margit and if it's it's it's a pot that
- 15:05doesn't have a hole. That's an isser derabanan.
- 15:09So we still we still give you some form of lashes anyway, just
- 15:13mean derabanan, but usur lisra kilaiamagoy.
- 15:17It's usur to plant the kilaiam foragoy mutter lomar lugoy
- 15:23lisarolo kilai zerine, and you're allowed to tell it's
- 15:28usser for you to do the planting of kilaiatkaram for a goy, but
- 15:33it's mutter for you to tell the goy to plant and to the the Kiwi
- 15:40zran. So OK, so real simple for the
- 15:46Jew to be doing the action is right.
- 15:49I believe everyone holds is always usser.
- 15:52I think that's pretty simple. What's the next portion talking
- 15:56about? So that's a Machlocos between
- 15:58the GRA and the Taz. How to read it And there's a
- 16:00partial mahlogas between the two.
- 16:03So I'll just say it outside the the Grau holds that this portion
- 16:09is talking about a sadeshal goy. It belongs a few belongs to a
- 16:14goy is if it belongs to a Jew and you tell him to do it, then
- 16:21that's the same as being Makayan, right?
- 16:23Just telling him to do it, paying him to do it, telling him
- 16:28to do it is a violation of Makayam.
- 16:31And it's your if it's so if it's your field, you're being Makayam
- 16:35and that's going to be an esser. An esser.
- 16:39So therefore, so it can't be talking about that case.
- 16:42It's talking about a field of a non Jew.
- 16:45So then you're allowed to tell him if it's to benefit the non
- 16:50Jew. The toss holds if it we're
- 16:53talking about a field of a Jew. So how is it mutter?
- 16:59It's because you're telling the Jew, the non Jew to do it for
- 17:03himself. He's the the non Jew is going to
- 17:06use the produce and benefit from it and you're not.
- 17:09So in that case, the taz says it's OK, so that's a maclovit.
- 17:13But if it's so, if it's a field that belongs to a non Jew,
- 17:17everyone says you can tell the non Jew to do it.
- 17:19If it belongs to a Jew, then it's a maclovus.
- 17:22Fine. So I'm trying to I would avoid
- 17:24it. The answer Lakayan bisadeo and
- 17:27it's us are to be makayanid. This is referring to if it
- 17:31belongs to a Jew. So here the Grosz going to it
- 17:34has to make a switch. The first part was or the middle
- 17:37part whatever was talking about it belonged to a non Jew and now
- 17:40he's making its belong to a Jew. But it's not so difficult.
- 17:44It still fits in the words quite well.
- 17:47You read it yourself, but because he's saying Bisade who?
- 17:51If it's OK, whatever, Ella Okran.
- 17:55So then if it belongs to a non Jew, sorry, it belongs to a Jew
- 17:59then no matter what you must uproot it when you find out the
- 18:02ink. Kayaman.
- 18:03And if he's according to everybody.
- 18:06Oh yeah, according to everybody. If it's for the the benefit for
- 18:10the Jew, then you can let the boy plant on your own land for
- 18:15him. It's for himself.
- 18:16Yeah, yeah, Kayaman. And if you right, it's you're
- 18:20field and you're going to use it and you allow it or help it,
- 18:24then it's you got malchus. Sorry, there's no there's no
- 18:29mises. So you don't it's usser, but you
- 18:31don't it's usser the arisa, but you don't get malchus.
- 18:34Yeah, but if but now you're watching it and even if it was
- 18:38planted right exactly, there's no malchus because the Jew never
- 18:42did a mice. Well, mutter.
- 18:44Lisztrell, Lisztrell. Achilles.
- 18:46Ryan Biado. Bechutzlaritz but it's a matzo.
- 18:48Lakhatkila to do any Kilai Zarain in Khutzala arts a Jew
- 18:53for himself on his land, 100% it's a matzo, right?
- 18:57But remember our cover. Grafton is still aser and
- 19:00Kilaiya Karim is sometimes aser. OK, but Philu Areva is Ryan.
- 19:06Lakhatkila. You could even Lakhatkila you're
- 19:08designing your farmer plantation from scratch.
- 19:12You can set it all up. Lakhatkila making them enter.
- 19:17What's it called? Next to each other.
- 19:19Who is our arm? The Hutzlar.
- 19:20It's mutter. It's mutter to do it.
- 19:22And hutzlar tudwaryam elu deavere Kabbalah.
- 19:25OK. And this is accepted?
- 19:28We'll do one more, I think. Anusur mishum kilehas rayim.
- 19:33Alas. Rayim Lamar al Adam.
- 19:36Now, which kilehas? Rayim or asur?
- 19:38It's only if it's edible, right? For people of all asivim a
- 19:44hamarim chyotse behen. But if it's bitter herbs that
- 19:48people don't eat, then it's not a problem.
- 19:51Mina E Karim SH enamel or a fua chyotse behen or the roots or
- 19:59whatever. You're just using them for
- 20:00medicine. So again, it's not a problem.
- 20:02That's only if it's considered normal food for people, not that
- 20:06medicine is mutter to do is rhyme and and it's OK if it's
- 20:09bitter and you're not going to eat it.
- 20:11Now a zero name. So let's just categorize this
- 20:15and then we'll stop. So there's 33 categories.
- 20:25So if one category is called Tebua grains, the five grains,
- 20:30OK, just the five grains, there are shiny Nikra kidney.
- 20:34And then the second category is called kidney Kagon Apollo.
- 20:42So these are like kind of beans, lentils, rice, whatever sesame
- 20:52is it Golkhan is Miller, right? OK, whatever it is.
- 20:56And Pragin perushka, Amy mond, Mali zrayim, I'm not exactly
- 21:00sure what that is, but that's up here.
- 21:03Some other kind of echidneys. OK, so kyotse behen, right?
- 21:07So any kind of a bean or rice in that family we have Shuishi,
- 21:12Nikra, Zerone, Gina, and these are called the seeds of the
- 21:17garden, the Haim Shaharzai Shenumiyum, the Mahal Adam.
- 21:22So this is when we have pre Sholto Azera Mahal Adam.
- 21:26This is when you have the, the, the main item is the fruit, the
- 21:31vegetable, but you also have generally we're talking about
- 21:35vegetables, but whatever, there's a real pre and then the,
- 21:39and the others and that's what's edible.
- 21:41And the other stuff, well, the seed, you don't eat the seeds,
- 21:44the sesame, you eat the peas. The peas are the pre are the
- 21:49seeds and the pre you eat that these are the peas are going to
- 21:53be kittens. Kagon zera habit Salim.
- 21:56We have Shumin vizera, Khatzir Vizera left with the Rheozaban
- 22:00zera, Pistan harehu, bichlal zerone, Gina, onions and garlic.
- 22:06So those are all tomatoes, and tomatoes is all going to be the
- 22:10last category called 0 nagina.