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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, October 8 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, October. Hey, this is check Wars Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: Check Wars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and
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  Speaker 1: now a guy who has a fire hose pointed directly
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  Speaker 1: at Tony VSELLI jan p shattering. I might not be
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  Speaker 1: the only one after this show is over tonight. Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? Are we doing? Coach? Coach has to
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  Speaker 1: be a an happy man today, doesn't he? Pete, I
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  Speaker 1: got some good stuff for you. I'm excited about this show,
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  Speaker 1: disappointed about yesterday, frustrated, but hey, no, it's time to
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  Speaker 1: tell the truth time. So it's not no, but every
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  Speaker 1: Sunday reveals truth that you This is I mean really
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  Speaker 1: every Monday, Pete should be tell the Truth time because
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  Speaker 1: you find out really what's going on in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: All the overreactions from the week before. You know some
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  Speaker 1: some are true, some are true, and some proved to
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  Speaker 1: be very false. By the way, it's too bad you
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  Speaker 1: lost all that weight with dr D P S S
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  Speaker 1: S s oh, because they might be able to sign
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  Speaker 1: you up and play you left tackle this week. Actually
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  Speaker 1: I've gained them back. I'm not quiet my playing weight,
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  Speaker 1: but I can get you. I can get there quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, wow, yeah, that's I mean, you want to
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  Speaker 1: introduce us, but I just kind of jumped in. It's okay.
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  Speaker 1: That's Tony Bosell. You might have heard of him. That's
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco. I'm J. P. Shadrick. This is Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. The Jaguars lost the
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  Speaker 1: football game yesterday. Here's what's coming up. We'll recap that
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  Speaker 1: thirty to fourteen loss to the Kansas City Chiefe. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we know what's coming up. After the offensive question marks
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  Speaker 1: plenty of those early speed to top to this defense,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll go around the National Football League a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later than Tony wasselly Twitter questions of the night.
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  Speaker 1: We'll take your calls. I'm gonna open the phone lines tonight.
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  Speaker 1: If I five, I can do a preview to PFF
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  Speaker 1: two right now. I got about two green grades. I
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  Speaker 1: got to Green's it? Maybe three? I'll give three greens, three,
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  Speaker 1: three whole greens. That's it, Tony, only three guys played
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  Speaker 1: worth the dam Huh. We'll get to that coming up
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  Speaker 1: and see if you're right. Four. You say, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean that are obvious. I thought playing good football. I
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  Speaker 1: mean somebody that doesn't mean the rest play terrible. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that. Yes again, no, I'm not because you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to overact nor overreacting. Let's call it a
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  Speaker 1: isn't it You might be over without looking at any grades,
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  Speaker 1: or haven't watched the twenty tooth tape. I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you the right tackle on the quarterback were two big minuses.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean we had five hundre yards of offense.
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  Speaker 1: We should have won almost number it's this is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's those are stupid numbers. They are one for five
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  Speaker 1: of the red zone five giveaways. Doug Maron after the
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  Speaker 1: ball games set, it's just getting back to work this
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  Speaker 1: week to get it right. No, offensively, we didn't execute.
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  Speaker 1: You know again, we had a poor showing in the
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  Speaker 1: red zone. We had turnovers, and you know, the game
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  Speaker 1: got out of hand and we've got to play better.
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  Speaker 1: We've got coach better play better. We've got to go
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  Speaker 1: back and and get this team back on track starting alright.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's week six coming up. The Jags are three
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  Speaker 1: and two. It was a bad performance against the team
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  Speaker 1: that's got the last undefeated record in the in the
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  Speaker 1: a f C. Right now, the Chiefs is probably gonna
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  Speaker 1: be in the playoffs. If you want to get to
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, you might run through this team again. So
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  Speaker 1: right now, there's a lot of football left. Oh, there's
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  Speaker 1: a ton of football. So I mean there's no sense of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the season's over or anything like that. You're
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  Speaker 1: tied in the you know, at the top of the division.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you're half a game behind because of the
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  Speaker 1: tiber uh Tennessee. Right now, there's eleven more football games.
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  Speaker 1: If I was a betting man right now, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to go to the Super Bowl in the a
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  Speaker 1: f C, it's going to Kansas City. Now. Could that
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  Speaker 1: change next week? Yes, Patrick Mahomes could get hurt, which
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  Speaker 1: I hope doesn't because he's great for the league. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: as much as I don't didn't enjoy yesterday, Patrick mahone
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  Speaker 1: is great for the NFL. I mean, you talk about
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch, enjoyable to watch? That is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't. I mean, and so I'm guessing it
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  Speaker 1: goes through Kansas City, Pete. That's where the is gone
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  Speaker 1: until this week when they play New England in Foxboro. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I actually think New England will probably win that game
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  Speaker 1: because uh defensively, the Chiefs aren't very good and the
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  Speaker 1: Jags did not take care of it, take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're really bad, um, and I believe Brady
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  Speaker 1: grond Edelman and Josh Gordon will slice them. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be whatever the over is. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be way over it. But I actually think New
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  Speaker 1: Englands gonna win that game. With that said, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think the a f C West is great, um, and
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  Speaker 1: I think the city ends at point in the day.
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  Speaker 1: But the NFC East thinks too. That's I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: AFC East, I agree, But so then they'll go through Foxborough.
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  Speaker 1: So you think that New England's gonna go fourteen and two.
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  Speaker 1: They might lose three games, but you think the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: How many the Chiefs gonna lose? I think the looser
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers or somebody like that. And they let me see,
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  Speaker 1: the Charges haven't beat the Chiefs in like fifteen years,
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  Speaker 1: I know, but they they're due for one. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders beat them all. That's beat them in the
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  Speaker 1: past and they're not beating them this year. Let me see,
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  Speaker 1: here's the chief schedule. You tell me where where their
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  Speaker 1: losses are just real quick, all right at the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: ye home against the Bengals, home against the Broncos at
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  Speaker 1: the brown Maybe home A gets the Cardinals. No Rams
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  Speaker 1: in London, I mean in Mexico City. I think that
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  Speaker 1: game you talk about, that's gonna be like to sixty
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  Speaker 1: at the Raiders, possibly home against the Ravens. They're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose to the Ravens. The Ravens defense will not.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't get the Chargers no at Seattle at home against
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders. So you think they're gonna go fourteen and two?
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, all right, Well the Patriots can go thirteen
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  Speaker 1: three too. Yeah. Okay, then it goes to me Newing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, okay, fair enough. Be I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots are only losing one more game with that defense.
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  Speaker 1: That's my point. Jaguar's offensive big storyline yesterday, the five giveaways,
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  Speaker 1: the struggles in the red zone. They had to play
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  Speaker 1: catch up late in the game. The quarterback says, they
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  Speaker 1: need to start faster. We gotta find a way to
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  Speaker 1: get going early. Uh. We gotta find a way to
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  Speaker 1: make plays early, sustained drives, uh, and get it rolling.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost you know, it felt like we waited until
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  Speaker 1: we were down and in a bad place, until we
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  Speaker 1: decided we wanted to play uh, and that can't happen.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta start from from the beginning, from the first snap, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, playing and playing as hard as we can play,
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  Speaker 1: doing everything we can to uh to be successful. Score points. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't do a much of the first quarter of
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  Speaker 1: the game. Second golater, they moved the ball, they got
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  Speaker 1: inside the five, and then we know what happened there.
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  Speaker 1: At no point do you want to start Okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: just start here. Mhm. Here's my problem with it. They're
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  Speaker 1: fortunate it wasn't twenty one nothing because the Chiefs stalled
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  Speaker 1: out at first and goal twice because the penalties and
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  Speaker 1: give the defense they got stops. But if you want,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was there. At no point. Did you
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  Speaker 1: feel like Jacksonville was in control of the situation. No,
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  Speaker 1: And so let's just let's start there. Let's not fool
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  Speaker 1: ourselves and saying, oh, if we had just done this
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  Speaker 1: one thing, it's better now. There's some certain points of
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  Speaker 1: the game that might have turned the tide. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: it started at the very beginning with the execution, but
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  Speaker 1: not just the execution by the players, but the game plan.
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  Speaker 1: That Kansas City defense is a true I need. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the offense side of the ball. That Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City defense is atrocious. Atrocious, Yes, they were. They were
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  Speaker 1: last in the NFL. There's thirty two teams. They were
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  Speaker 1: thirty second. I don't know what else you how you
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  Speaker 1: describe it. And but they have two guys who are
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  Speaker 1: really good. D Ford can rush the passer and Justin
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  Speaker 1: Houston can rush the passer. Immediately in that game and
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  Speaker 1: the first drive, you knew you should have known before.
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  Speaker 1: But if you didn't know before that Jeremy Parnell was
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  Speaker 1: gonna really struggle with d Ford speed, and that Justin
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  Speaker 1: Houston was gonna give Josh Wells all kinds of fits.
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  Speaker 1: I thought. I mean, watching the tape. I told Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Logman on the bus ride to the stadium. Their defense
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  Speaker 1: is awful. But I worry about us blocking d Ford
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  Speaker 1: and Justin Houston. And what about Chris Jones. Now he's okay,
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  Speaker 1: post player, he's he's fine, But I don't worry about him.
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  Speaker 1: I worry about those two guys. He picked up all
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  Speaker 1: that they threw me through to him. I could have come,
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  Speaker 1: but but not game changing. Are you so worried about
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  Speaker 1: Partnell on the right side because speed where he struggles,
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  Speaker 1: it was speed, really really fast guys, And so I
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  Speaker 1: would have thought coming in. Part of our game plan
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  Speaker 1: when we threw dropped back would have been to chip.
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  Speaker 1: You know what the Chiefs did early in the game.
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  Speaker 1: They chipped Lais and go Way. I would have chipped
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  Speaker 1: to ensure that my quarterback was comfortable and had time
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  Speaker 1: because they're not very good in the secondary. One two
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  Speaker 1: run the ball. At one point, Yelden was averaging almost
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  Speaker 1: six yards of carry. In fact, the one drive when
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  Speaker 1: it's tend nothing and we have a chance to get
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  Speaker 1: really changed. I think the tenor of this game. We
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  Speaker 1: marched it down the field, running the ball, and then
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  Speaker 1: threw it when he got into the red zone, and
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  Speaker 1: then one and a half we throw a fade. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like the call, but if you're planning to kick
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  Speaker 1: it on fourth down, I'm okay with it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like it, but I can understand why you do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we throw that ball very well, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we handled it. We did complete one
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  Speaker 1: against into the Colts, so maybe they felt good about
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  Speaker 1: it fair enough, and yes, their secondaries off em World
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  Speaker 1: study liked that package instead of the heavy package against
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We can run out of that package. We've
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  Speaker 1: been running zone, red zone all day long and so
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  Speaker 1: so that's fine. But if you know you're going for
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  Speaker 1: it on fourth down, you run it twice. You line
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  Speaker 1: up and you say your third the second in the league,
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  Speaker 1: we our identity is to run the ball. Isn't that
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  Speaker 1: what we say? That's that's what we're Yeah, okay, we're
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  Speaker 1: line up twice. If Doug Morone told and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know this, but if Doug bron told Nathaniel Hackett, you
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  Speaker 1: have two plays to get a yard and a half,
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  Speaker 1: then you run it twice. But but Tony and you didn't,
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  Speaker 1: and you threw it twice, and you're and you were
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  Speaker 1: struggling to well, I don't know. He's not let anybody
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  Speaker 1: else talk. No, I agree with you. You look, you
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  Speaker 1: don't throw a fade there. It was a bad call.
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  Speaker 1: If you're gonna run the ball, if you're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: for you run it twice. I'm with you. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought they abandoned the running game too soon coming out
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  Speaker 1: of my mouth, you know, I don't like to say that,
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  Speaker 1: but that's the reality. The banded the running game too soon.
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  Speaker 1: Still having said that Safari Jakins should have caught that
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  Speaker 1: ball in the goal line, Sfarry Jenkins, it's hurt. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he still should have caught the ball. Game he the ball.
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  Speaker 1: He can't move. You can see that on tape. You
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  Speaker 1: can't you can't move. I feel bad for the guy.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully he gets fixed and he comes back. But is
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  Speaker 1: that stemming from when he fell on the ball in
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota and practice that one day. I think that's where
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  Speaker 1: it started. That's my guess. The second thing is and
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  Speaker 1: so games things that could change so that I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand that. To me, that's straightforward anyways. So then we
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  Speaker 1: gotta pick you realize it's it is ten nothing with
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  Speaker 1: I looked at this last night, as bad as we
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  Speaker 1: were playing, and as much as it felt like the
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs were going up and down the field, it was
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  Speaker 1: ten nothing with four left when we pick it in
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  Speaker 1: the first half. In the second quarter, we've already struggled
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  Speaker 1: to protect the quarterback. At this time, we've already got
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  Speaker 1: Blake hit a bunch, and we already everyone in the
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  Speaker 1: stadium knows that Jeremy Partnell was having a tough day
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  Speaker 1: and he can't block the forward in the speed. So
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  Speaker 1: you know what we do in the first play after
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  Speaker 1: we us marched it down averaging six almost six yards
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  Speaker 1: to carry, what do we decided to do? We decided
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  Speaker 1: to drop back, not slide to Jeremy, not put it
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  Speaker 1: back over there in no tight end and let him
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  Speaker 1: go one on one. Yeah. Bad, it was bad fumble,
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  Speaker 1: bad plan. I don't understand that. But Tony, here's another thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you talk about the defense. If you said
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  Speaker 1: that the defense holds homes without a touchdown and picks
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  Speaker 1: them off twice, you'd say you win that game, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but there really wasn't a lot of pressure. There was
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  Speaker 1: zero pressure. Which where is it? What does it happened
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  Speaker 1: to that? What has happened that? That's I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: you study offensive lines as much as anybody. The right
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  Speaker 1: tackle is a good player, the left tackle is pretty solid.
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  Speaker 1: The guards aren't good on that team. There they do.
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  Speaker 1: And I was talking to one of the coaches that
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember who. I've seen two teams in the
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  Speaker 1: last two weeks, one on Thursday night the Rams and
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  Speaker 1: then Sunday the Chiefs and watching tape on both those teams,
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  Speaker 1: they do a great job of changing the launch point
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  Speaker 1: and changing the upfront protection as far as off of
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  Speaker 1: zone looks, power looks reads. So where the quarterback drops
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  Speaker 1: back to it's just not a straight five step drop
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  Speaker 1: or he's in the same spot. They move it just slightly.
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  Speaker 1: They still run all their stuff down the field, and
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  Speaker 1: what it does slows down the rush. They do some
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  Speaker 1: different max protects, they run backs that ends. They have
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  Speaker 1: a great game plan. I think the Chiefs and Andy
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  Speaker 1: Heck and their offensive line coach used to be in Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Andy Reid do a great job about
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  Speaker 1: that with that. I think Sean McVeigh and Aaron Chromer
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  Speaker 1: do a great job with that. I mean it's there,
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  Speaker 1: that's who they are, and so it makes it harder
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  Speaker 1: as for a defensive lineman, just the tee off now
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  Speaker 1: they still drop back straight, don't get me wrong, but
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  Speaker 1: it makes it hard. And early in that game they
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  Speaker 1: ran some backs at Klaius and and tight ends with
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  Speaker 1: chip on the way out. They did it too in
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  Speaker 1: gowk Way, and so it slows down the rush a
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  Speaker 1: little bit over time. With that said, if you look
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  Speaker 1: at all four five games that we've played. Now, outside
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  Speaker 1: of some stuff, you know, moments here or there, we
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  Speaker 1: have not seen and it was like this a little
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  Speaker 1: bit at the end of last year as well. We
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  Speaker 1: have not seen this overwhelming rush. We see occasional sacks,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't see this overwhelming quarterback fighting for his life.
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  Speaker 1: At least that's not the feeling I get in what
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  Speaker 1: I see. I'm not saying it's not I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the pack right now, they're not terrible rushing
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  Speaker 1: the passer, but it wasn't the dominating rush we saw
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  Speaker 1: last last year. Um, but give give the Chiefs some credit.
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  Speaker 1: They do a good job of moving and changing the
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  Speaker 1: launch zo the launch the launch area of the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And uh and so that's one of the reasons you didn'
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  Speaker 1: see yesterday. Yeah, I'm disappointed the I mean, I told
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  Speaker 1: you this last week. I picked in god Way to
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  Speaker 1: be the defensive player of the year. That didn't happening.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, unless he gets him in boatloads, it's not happening.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that he's not playing good football, it's just
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  Speaker 1: not playing dominant football. In my mind, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that defense is they're number two in the league now
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  Speaker 1: behind the red Skins who played tonight. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you've seen the best of that defense in any game
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  Speaker 1: this year. So I will say this about our defense
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  Speaker 1: right now, and Peter, I'm gonna expound on what you
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  Speaker 1: just said. They are not dominant right now. No, they're
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  Speaker 1: not a dominant defense that they're not carrying this team did.
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  Speaker 1: Are they playing good enough to win? Absolutely, they're playing good.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're playing It's like I had this
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  Speaker 1: conversation this morning on the show about Jalen. There they're saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they think people are getting a little tired
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  Speaker 1: of hearing Jalen talk and then not seeing the big place.
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  Speaker 1: I can't sit here and say Jalen is not playing
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  Speaker 1: good football. But is is Jalen playing dominant football? I
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  Speaker 1: would say no. And when you and and this is
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  Speaker 1: my issue with not just our team or any team,
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  Speaker 1: when you tell people you're great and you want to
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  Speaker 1: be considered great. One of the problems we have in
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: sports today we use that term great way too liberally.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of good, but that's not great. And
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  Speaker 1: if you want to be great and you want to
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  Speaker 1: be dominant, you have to do it on the field
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  Speaker 1: and you gotta, you gotta. There's moments and I said
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  Speaker 1: on the on the broadcast, Hey, this is where a
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  Speaker 1: dominant defense is. Okay, we're struggling. Here we go, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna be shut down. I played against dominant defenses.
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  Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens in two thousand were a dominant defense.
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  Speaker 1: Like when they decided it was done, it was like,
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  Speaker 1: we're done, and so um a lot of some interesting questions.
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  Speaker 1: And when we come back, I want to talk about
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the offensive line and the running game and the overall
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  Speaker 1: a bad loss. Why are you still resigned that they
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  Speaker 1: stunk yesterday? That you just have moved on already? Cod
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  Speaker 1: Um No, I haven't moved on at all. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a point where I mean, if you look at
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the roster and you look at what happened yesterday, Um,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things, and well, this is gonna lead
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: to the injuries we're gonna talk about here in the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: second JP is last year, this team was tennant six,
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  Speaker 1: went to the NFC Title Game and should have gone
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Fabulous job by all the players
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  Speaker 1: and coaches. Really a great job. I mean, just like
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  Speaker 1: over achieved as far as anyone's expectations, Maybe not their own,
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  Speaker 1: but outside of the meeting room, Um, they did that.
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  Speaker 1: They were plus tenant turnovers. They scored at a record
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: pace at least for this franchise on defense, and they
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  Speaker 1: scored on special team and late in the year quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in the offense started playing good football. But they did
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it based on defense, special teams, run the ball. That
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  Speaker 1: was their formula, and they executed at the highest level
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  Speaker 1: and they even went to beyond because they can score
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  Speaker 1: on defense. This year they are minus seven in turnovers.
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  Speaker 1: They are not creating havoc on defense, they're not getting turnovers.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: They do have the one score, and interesting enough, you
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: go back to that game, what happens if the defense
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't score, because offensively they couldn't move the ball at all,
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  Speaker 1: and so that might have been a completely different game.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: But they don't score. Ah, and so the things that
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  Speaker 1: we talked, you can't count on those things happening year
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  Speaker 1: over year. And especially is playing fine. I think the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: punter is actually better. Lambo has been great, but return
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: game right now with Mickens isn't very good and the
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  Speaker 1: punt return and so you're not seeing some of those
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  Speaker 1: big plays that gave you more possessions which means more opportunities,
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  Speaker 1: gave you shorter fields and put points on the on
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  Speaker 1: the board without the offense doing anything. And those are
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  Speaker 1: all very hard to replicate outside of just playing good football.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And I defensively, it's not like they're terrible. I mean
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Let's not get that was a good offense and you
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  Speaker 1: didn't get any help from your own offense. Um and
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  Speaker 1: now you look at this team now you're not doing
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: those things and your formula, and I just it's interesting,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is what heard Doug said is we can't put too
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: much on Blake's plate. What's that reminds you of what
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  Speaker 1: we heard last year? A little bit? I mean similar link.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Blake's better. I'm I'm not gonna
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: judge Blake just because he was bad yesterday. That's not
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: fair to I don't like doing that to a player
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: just one day, you know. But there's but there's been
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: an up and down a little bit. We'll talk about
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that later. But you look at the injuries now and
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the other the last thing that was different that happened
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: last year zero injuries. They lost Allen Robinson the first
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: play of offense really and so they kind of played
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: with him all without the year. So they adjusted and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: they were a running team anyway, so it didn't affect
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: them as much. And they are two games in totality
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: of starters on defense. Tell me Smith missed two games
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: with a concussion. That is it. They had Leonard nicked
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: up from on defense two games. But how many games
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: on defense have they lost this year? Uh? So far
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: too d J. Haydens their starting nickel. This is miss
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: two games. But that's that's it. We played five games
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: they haven't lost. Okay, yeah, have the starting nickel. I'll
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: give you that. So I agree with you. I'm just saying,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: but those are again hard to repeat. The offense has
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: been decimated by it. So this year the offense no
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: left tackle for starting left tackle out, backup left tackle
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: is out. We don't know how long. It's a growing
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I think there has been reported. I'm not sure those
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: can linger sure the link. They'll find out as the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: week goes on. Leonard for Nett, who knows when he's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: coming back? Marks Lee, Corey Grant And you did nothing
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in the off season, and he could come, but right
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: now he's gone. And you did nothing in the off season.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Two fil the loss of course Chris Ivory, and so
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you went into the season wanting to be a power
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: running or a running team, heavy run team, not replacing
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Chris Ivory. And now you sit here, you have one
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: healthy back because Yeldon's got the ankle. He's so he's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: only healthy back. Nothing against Brandon Wilds, but he's I mean,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: are you gonna pull if he's the only healthy back.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: He's not healthy either. He's fighting to an ankle. No,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I know that, But I'm saying, you have one guy
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you feel that he's productive, they gotta go get one. Okay,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: how do you do that? If it was me, what
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: would you do? Right now? Pete? I called Pittsburgh Steels
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and I said, I'll give you a second or third whatever.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, no more than a second. But I've trade. Okay,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I trade for Levi on Bell right now. And this
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: is why there'll be no cap consequences this year, because
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you can't sign him. I mean, you have the cap room,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure this year to do it. But you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: have to sign the tent. He have to sign this,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: sign the tender so they can him under. Yeah, you
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: can fit him under and he plays with the franchise deal.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You can't give him the big deal until the season
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: is over anyways, but he's not gonna sign that unless
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you give him a commitment you're gonna do it. And
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: so and you just say at the end of the year,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: we for us to be who we want to be
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: with the court with Blake Boardles and what we expect
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: him to do. We have to run the ball. So
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go load up on running backs and we're
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: gonna run the ball. Pete, do you do that deal?
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Do you do? You do something else? What else you before?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: What else you gonna do? Pete, I'm not giving up.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving up a second round pick for Levan
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: rental on Levan Bill, I'm not. It's our rental. So
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I'll sign long term. Okay, then you're getting rid of
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: for Net then, but for not to cost you nothing? Right,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So so basically your plan is go trade for Bell,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: signed him to a long term deal and dump for Net.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And why do you have to dump for it? He's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: under a rookie deal. He doesn't cost you anything. Well,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I mean you're not gonna have he cost you something.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: He's a first round pick. I'll tell exactly what he
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: cost you. Yeah, that's it's not free. Okay, it's not free. Okay.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Be the reason I say this, I'm going to repeat
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: something you have told me forever. The window to win
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a championship by doing it by defense is small. You
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: have a two, three, four year window to do it
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: with defense, because sooner or later you can't pay all
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: those guys on defense. That's why you've always said you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: have to do it quarterback offense and not just defense
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: because defense is a smaller window. Is not not what
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you've told me, It's true. It is exactly what I
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: told you. Okay, we've seen that with But I agree
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: with you. I agree with you. How does this team
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: win this year? In your scenario, if you trade the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: two right four belt, you get him on that contract
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: which you could fit under your dear you in your
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: cap this year, then you're are you rending him? Are
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: you giving him a long term extension after the season?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Guess what? I worry about that at the end of
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the year. But we don't give up a second round
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: pick for a ten game guy who's not in shape,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: hasn't played football? Is he not in shape? Who knows
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the word is he's not in shape? Well, then I
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: can Then you can't do it because he doesn't help
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you into it. And then and then so but your scenario,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: let's just say played out that he had a great
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: year and they went on and had and then what
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: do you do with for nette, he's got a seven
• 31:29
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• 31:30
  Speaker 1: money on your books. Right, then you trade him, I
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: don't know, do something else. How about trading like a
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: six or five for um Tevin Coleman or somebody like that.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: First of all, the Falcons are gonna give you Kevin
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Coleman for a fifth rounder. They might. He's are starting
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: running back basically, DeVante Freeman is hurt and he's back.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: He's back, and they got Edo Smith going. They might.
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• 31:56
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• 32:00
  Speaker 1: you can get Shady or Tevin for a third I'm
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: saying you have to do something extreme. I give you that,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing him up that, but you're gonna have to
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: give up something to go get. You can't just go
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: get a second rate back. You gotta go get a
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman, who's a good back. You gotta go get
• 32:18
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• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You don't get a dude, do your trade part of
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: your defense for that? No, No, because your defense is
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: what's going to get They're not playing great, right now
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: they're just playing good. But that's ultimately what's gonna get you.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: If they don't play dominant or play really good football
• 32:37
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• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You're not getting there. But Tony Tevin Coleman is an
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: undrestricted free agent after this season, so they might be
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: willing the movement for a pick, or they might cut
• 32:48
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• 32:51
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• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I I agree, but Coleman has been given an opportunity
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to be the starter. He hasn't done much and a
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: great two weeks ween a great game, Pete, He's okay, Okay,
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• 33:09
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• 33:11
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• 33:33
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• 33:38
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• 33:43
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• 33:45
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  Speaker 1: for crossfire. J P. Shadrick Tony Boselli here in Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Prisco down in South Florida will get to some
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: rapid fire ish topics. Whom where we go from there?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: How about that number one Blake Bortles was yesterday regression
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: for him or just a blip on the radar? Pete?
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: What do you say? I will say it is a
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: blip on the radar. I mean, look, I'm one of
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: those guys if a quarterbacks throwing rifle shots in the
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: middle of the field and guys are just picking them
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: off a going the other way, then it's a big
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: deal to me. Uh, intercepted screen pass. It's just a
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: sloppy play. It's not a bad read. The one that
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he threw off the helmet, What the hell was that?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, where the was that going? If it doesn't
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: hit the helmet? It was I think he was I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: think him in d D had a plan that he
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: was gonna play the bank shot bank of the d D.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Is he throwing that, let's run that? I see the play?
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Can we run that again? Is he throwing that the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: yellow because there's about eight people around, yelledon on Jaguars
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: dot Com. Yeah, not sure what happened. So I've watched
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: the tape. Josh Walker gets beat, so he's kind of
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: shuffling like bad footwork there, right, It was like as
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit he had to hustle. Yeah, but if
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: if Josh Walker doesn't get beat, now it is Paul's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: wide open and that's the design. The designs go to
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Niles Paul and you know who else was open? Moncree
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: was opened in the back of the end it was
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a terrible play by Blake. But um, it didn't help
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that he was getting pressure. No, it did not. Um,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I think I'm not. I don't know what Tony he
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: was throwing at the yelled in at first, and then
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: he saw there was about eight guys around him, and
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: he thought he just dumping into the back of the
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: offensive line. That's what it looks like. Um, what do
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: you say? It is Tony? It's it's it's uh. It
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: is who he is this year. Inconsistent, inconsistent, So he's
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: been his whole career. No, but this year it's it's wild,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: you know, up and down rating week after week after week.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I mean he not played great against the Giants, great
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: against New England. Not great against Tennessee, didn't get any
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: help there either, great against the Jets, awful against Kansas City.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So that's what he is. He's up and down until
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you change it. I mean, it's it is. It's pretty amazing. Though.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: As bad as he played against Kansas City, he did
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: to make some really nice throws in that game. Yeah,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: definitely moved it down the field something right, Pete. There
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: was some of the there were some nice throws and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: there were some of the worst throws I've seen. Yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: how about the one he I mean Diciferian Jenkins drop
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: one in the middle of the field that was like
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: spinning from around. Oh my god, what was wrong? What
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: happened to that past? It was like around? It was
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: a curveball, as I said, He meant it, dude. He
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: tried to throw a curve around the secondary and curve
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it in there in the Nile's fall and he and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Niles got the He had the fastball sign so he
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't ready. He was he got he didn't shake him off.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: He didn't shake him off. So if you would have
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: been expect to the curve, you know what was it?
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: When they Pitcher crosses up Catcher he thinks it's fastball
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in the curb and he gets all crossed up. But
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: he still should have caught it. I don't know what
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: happened there. That was that was going around, It was
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: going a circle. It was like around and around it went.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: How does that come out of your hand like that?
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I could on Jaguars dot Com and we'll see the
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: replay angles the one where you really could see coming
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: up Pete for sure. It was it was a struggle
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: here it is. I've seen it like in the middle
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and then they'll have an extreme close up view here
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it is right now on Jaguars dot Com, like curves
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: to the right. It's it's a knuckleball. We had to
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: laugh at him, but it's I mean, it's still I'm sorry,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not laughing at him. I'm laughing with him.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you he's laughing at that. It's like, because
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: that was the play that Blake got hitting the chops
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: to right there. Seven gets him like right under the
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: chin on that play, and then now as Paul gets
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: it on the other end, he's spinning around like a top.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: It was just bad football. Next topic, plenty of pass
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: rush by the Chiefs. We've gone through that. What is
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the greatest concern on the offensive line right now? Tackles
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: two tackles um left tackle, Moore in the right tackle.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Because even after yesterday, Yeah, because I mean Jeremy, I mean,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: it's I mean, you knew this, I mean, did we
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: not know this that Jeremy Partnell is getting up older
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: in age. He's a tough he brings physicality, he brings
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: an attitude offensive line. But you know, there's certain weaknesses.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: And that's okay. I can go around the league and
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: tell you write tackles that you need to help. Well,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: they just help them design it just chip, just just
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: put a tight end and chip him on the way
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: out running back by and hit him in the ribs.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: They did it late, and they out of the game
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: for a player. I mean, Peter my under making this too, sip.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like, I mean, does anyone think
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: in the NFL that every team has two tackles that
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: just go lock down DEFENSEI van's the whole game. No,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and even the good lines Tony are having problems. I mean,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: like the the Eagles line, which you think is the
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: best in the football at one point, not anymore. No,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: they're paying Jason Peters hurt. I haven't watched the one snapping.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: He's not playing well, and neither the right tackle is
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: not playing that well. I mean, it's yeah, but Partnell
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: has been up and down from me this year. He
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: had okay, but Pete my point, that's not the question.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: The question chip, Yes, I mean and that what everyone does. Yeah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: you gotta help him. No, but the left tackle worries me.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I love Josh Walker, who he came in and did
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: he battled. He's physical. Stop, he's not a right he's
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: not a left tackle. Though. He looks like a guard
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: to me, yeah, he looks like a guard. But at
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: this point, that's all you got. This is what you have.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Go do it. You gotta now listen. This is what
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: you get paid to coach. This is why they get
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: paid all this money. Go design it and move the pocket,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: change launch angles, ship up. I mean, that's what you do. Wait,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: but Welles was having problems yesterday too, not as bad
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: it was. I mean, he got hurt, so he's on
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: one leg for most of it. He played with that
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: growing for probably three two or three series. All right,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: next topic here, bigger concerned this season for the Shaguars
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: team the giveaways on offense or the lack of takeaways
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on defense the Jags at minus seven, Tony, what do
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: you say to me, it's always um giveaways. It's always giveaways,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: always always, because you can control that even with this defense.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: How they put the caveat is what's concerning about what's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: concerning to me about the defense is it's not disruptive
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: this year. Let's say it's not good, but it's not disruptive.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: And um, they've had disruptive moments. They've had disruptive times,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: but it's not creating chaos for offenses. For you, Pete,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: it's giveaway. He's always always, it's always team. I mean
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: when you pick right there to the Jones, I mean
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: that's to me, that's you're done the game. The game
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: is just flipped. It's over. The team is dejected, it's done. Yeah,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: it's it's definitely the take the giveaways. The thing is
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: they had a chance, they go score, make it twenties seven,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: it's a different game. Maybe maybe yeah, it changes a bit,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're you're in the hunt a little
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: bit more. But nothing. And then thirties they're they're the
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: sacks per pass play, Tony. Yeah, their middle of the back.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: That's what I said. Yeah, they're not good enough. And
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: well not if you want the defense to carry you. Well,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: not if you're supposed to be the dominant defense that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: you think you are, right and you've told everybody speaking
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: of that, our final topic, talking early, talking before the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: game starts, talking late, down by two scores, does this
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: team talk to my speed? No, No, no, you're you're
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: you're an idiot, Pete. It never bothers me. It bothers.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: It bothers me because you're old school, You're you're you're
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: an old pete. Let me ask you a question, let me,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: let me say, let me let me get some specific
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: talking that really bothers me. One, you think it's okay
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to disrespect another player in this league before the game starts.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Did you think that Ramsey disrespected Tyreek Kill. I think
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: he's disrespected Tyreek Hill. I think he disrespected Rob Gronkowski.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I think he disrespected Matt Ryan and the g Q article.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I think he disrespected his own some of his own team,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and his coaches in the in the preseason. I said
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: this all before, so I'm just adding. I mean, it's
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: not but I don't think anything that's ever said before
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: or after a game is I didn't say I didn't
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: say that. I didn't say that because to me as
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: an ex player, yeah, I don't mind if you beat
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: your chest out how great you are. When we've had
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: guys do that forever. I'd like to see it happen
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: after you tell me, or I'm just gonna laugh because
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: it gets ridiculous after a while because you're just talk. Note,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: you know, no show um, but I I have a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: fundamental problem with disrespecting other players verbally. Well, I mean
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: what he stated was facts, right, and he was responding
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill said earlier in the week about Yeah,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I just so so you don't think you don't think
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I I just don't like it. Okay, But where was
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: the other thing? I don't like? You know that. I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: else don't like your down twenty and you're talking Junco,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Let's say it was like, I
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't tell Vin you over the end
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of the game. And the end of the game, we
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: have players going over there one to fight people. I'm like,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you already lost. Yeah, I don't fight during the game.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. But who was hirped
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: during the game when they were down? Because that guy's
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: that guy's out out a bunch of them. At one point,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Malik is yelling at their bench. I saw Telvin, you know,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: yelled their bench. I mean I don't want to. I
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: mean maybe I just I don't know if they're saying
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: maybe they're just saying, hey, you guys are great players.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they're being nice. I don't know, but
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I just the talk just becomes too much at some point.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Just go do it. But you don't think that Ramsey
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: played a good game yesterday again when he's matched up
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: against him, I all he gave up to two catches
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and forty something plays. Um do I think he played good?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Like him getting blown by here, That doesn't bother me.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: That happens. It happens to corners. He would buy themselves.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: That happens. It was a good throw, good catch on
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: he had two catches against them. I think it was
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: more than that, but no matched up to him, I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: think it was only two. I think he played fine.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I think Jalen did. Did Jalen do anything that took
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: over the game? Was he dominant? No? I saw? I
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I don't, And maybe this is maybe this is what
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Todd wash is telling you to do. I don't understand
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: why we're playing ten yards off and going in backpedaling
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: before the ball has ever snapped, and then when the
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: ball is thrown at a seven yard or a five
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: yard stick route, we're not We're coming up and we're
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: hesitant and not smoking the guy like I've seen Jalen
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: doing the past. I don't understand that. Maybe now, maybe
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not blaming Jalen. I don't know the game plan.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what Todd wash is doing. And my question
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: would be to Todd, why are we playing ten yards
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: off backpedaling when we have backed up on the three
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: yard line? Why do they haven't? Why don't they haven't
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: playing press right here? Beat? You see it? Yeah? Why
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: don't they haven't playing press man? Anyway? And then look
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: at I mean, and that's not that wasn't That wasn't
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Tyreek kill. That's the Anthony Thomas. Maybe that's why they
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: didn't want to play press man because they were afraid
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Tyricko was gonna run by. I don't know, but do
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, do I think anyone on the defense played great? No?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: If I'll say this, I thought Marcel Darius was dominant
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: in the run. I mean he's dominant. He is so
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: good in the run. I thought, Uh, to Sean Gibson
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: played a in a game? All right? Well, I thought
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Boyer had a great pick. Why don't they wouldn't if
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that was Mike, if they were my corners, wouldn't you
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: blitz more and play more man outside, more pressed man? Uh?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: I know that there are cover three team. I know
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: that's their formula. That's what they don't know. They weren't
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: getting there. That's the problem. Even when they're blitzing, they
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: weren't getting there, and the kid was carving them up
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: at times he did. He does have a tendency when
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you play drop aid in the coverage, like they rushed
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: down in the goal line to hold the ball, doesn't it?
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know exactly. I'm not saying I
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: have all the answers, by the way, No, nor do I.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I've only answered. I'm just saying you
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: asked me a question. Do I think Jalen played a
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: good game? Um? Based on what I saw? Yeah, he
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: was fine. I mean like it wasn't like I saw
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: any glaring like he was bad. Did I see anything
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: that he did great? No? Do I not understand certain things?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: And so whether this is Todd wash in the scheme
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: or PERI fuel the defensive coach tell him, the defensive
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: backs coaches tell him do this, or if Jalen is
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: doing it on his own, I just don't understand if
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: you have a great corner while you're playing ten eleven
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: yards off in back pedaling allowing them to throw at will.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Were first downs, five yard hitches and then not coming
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: up and just I just, I mean we saw the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: plane just stood there. I mean, so maybe that's what
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: they're taught. I don't know. He did not play very well, um,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: but that to me, I mean, Pete, is that dominant
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: defense though, No, that's not dominant. It's just dominant defense
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: is going after the quarterback and playing press man outside
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: when you got two good corners. That's what I would do.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: And so I guess my question back to you, Pete
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and everybody and in the crosstalk, does the talking bother me?
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: If you tell me you're great, If you tell me
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: you're the ask corner in the NFL, and you tell
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: me you're the best defense in the NFL, and that's
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: what you tell me, the guess what, the bar is
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit higher than just being good. And if
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• 53:24
  Speaker 1: best corner in football? This show? He has not been
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: the best corner. Where does rank right now? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: He's not I haven't watched every corner. He's not awful,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: he's not been great. He's a good corner. Janale Ramsey's
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: immensely talented. My opinion doesn't change with Jalen Ramsey because
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm not crazy about some of the things
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: he said. Jayla Ramsey has the physical ability and the
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• 53:50
  Speaker 1: will not change that opinion at all. But is he
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: right now? Am I see it? Right now? You know
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  Speaker 1: where he's ranked in the top corners in UH Pro
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Football Focus. Where's that Steve six sixty seven? Now? What
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: does that include? Who can't PFF doesn't even know? I mean,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: but nobody knows. It's a mystery. It's like this mystery
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  Speaker 1: box that we just throw crap into and hopefully see.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: I'll give you the time. Here's their top corners for
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the year so far. And you tell me you've watched him, Tony,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: You've seen these guys play iron. Joe has been fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: He's number one with the Cowboys. Yea, Chry I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what. He battled Hopkins last night? He lost Harris
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: very good player. Mars Clayborne at UH at the Jets, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Patrick Peterson, I haven't seen Arizona once.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Mccordy the other mccordy, I don't know how Jony Gilmore okay,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: uh Dunbar from the Redskins. He's played good watching tonight
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: to leave boy eleven? Has boy have been that much
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: better here in your mind than Jalen. That's good. That's
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the question for the day right there? Uh played better
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: than Yeah, I think he has. See that's the thing.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Jalen is probably a better player than boy, but boys
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  Speaker 1: Jalen's should be the number one corner in the league period.
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  Speaker 1: But let me tell you how. You don't become the
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• 55:27
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• 55:30
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• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to tell him, and he used to do it. So
• 55:35
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• 55:40
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  Speaker 1: used to tell him and then do it. That bother
• 55:46
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• 55:49
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• 55:53
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• 55:58
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm it pretty well? Um really well?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what age I just said? Um? I held
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  Speaker 1: my own but that doesn't matter. He got a couple
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  Speaker 1: of plays too. Is this a pretty good matchup all
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• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: won with already of my matchups today. Quit it that way.
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  Speaker 1: There's Jalen Ramsey in the locker room after the game.
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• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Tony he won his matchup. No, he won the majority
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of his matchups. What he said, right, So, Pete, ask
• 1:00:39
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• 1:00:46
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• 1:00:52
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  Speaker 1: God gets So if after a game, let's say Michael
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  Speaker 1: McCrary got a sack and hit the quarterback two times
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: three times and we lost, would would would you accept
• 1:01:15
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: had seventy offensive play sixty seven of them I blocked him,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: or would your you know what would your thought have been? Yeah?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: But the one you know, you're supposed to be the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: best at what you do, and your sack, your sack, fumble,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: gave up, the gave up a turnover, or you or
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: you gave him a sack, and it's end of the drive.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: And so so maybe it's just maybe that's not right.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I'm I'm psychotic, and I still look
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: back at all I can remember is the bad things,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: But there was not many times in my life. Like
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: a good game for me is if I played seventy
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: plays and that dude didn't I blocked him seventy times
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: and he didn't make a play, or he had assisted
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: he jumped on. Okay, Tony, But the flip side of
• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: you and you won sixty nine plays, did you think
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: you had a good game? You didn't see that. That's
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: where you're too hard on yourself. Okay, I'm just that's me.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: So maybe maybe Jalen has better balance life bounce. He'll
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: be a happier individual than me. He'll sleep and he
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: won't recount all the bad plays that he had later on,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: And like, maybe I need to sit down Jalen and
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  Speaker 1: take some context of how to live life at a
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: higher level. No, you need therapy too, but you know
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, No, but Tony, See, I'm one
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: of those guys. If you played Jason Taylor the way
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: you played him, and you dominate him that night, if
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: he got one sack on you, I wouldn't call that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: a bad day for I'd say you dominated him and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: he got one play on you. Yeah, see that. That's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: where I I'm talking about. How me, if I'm covering
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: the team, how evalue I always expect a corner to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: get beat when he plays a lot of man coverage,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: So best of them getting Sanders got beate at times.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, So I guess my the way I would
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: have looked at that if Jalyn said, I played, you know,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I played. You know I play good, but I can
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I can be better. But Tony, I mean, I don't know.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I just I don't know after getting
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: and I guess after getting the blown out, my response
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: had been if someone asked me is how did you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: do in your man? I would say, who cares? Right,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: it didn't matter. We lost the game. I lost. Obviously
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: he did his team, and he did better than I did.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Because they're winning right now, dance and I'm sitting here
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: lost by whatever. JP, you do realize this is the
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: coach in him coming out. But Pete, Pete, that's not true.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Was I any different as a player, Yeah, because when
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: I used to signle up to you after a loss,
• 1:03:47
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• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: else didn't do their job, doesn't mean I didn't do mine?
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And all serious, was I any difference? You were an
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: angry you were an angry loser. I just, I mean,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: that's just how I do a matter. What are you
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: asking me that? I just? I just who cares? Because
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I would have looked at it as what if I
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: would have What if I would have made an extra
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: block that could have sprung and changed the game to win?
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: What if I would have blocked a little bit longer?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: So market has sat back there, and what have found
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: the extra guy to do it? What happens if you
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: don't make the field? Go and Buffalo in the playoffs
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: in ninety six, and yet that whole game where you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: dominated Bruce Smith, you would have been angry and and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: and I would have been. I would have been at
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: some point fair enough after the game, after time went by,
• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:33
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• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: you'd have walked in, I would have said, you know, well,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was okay, it was a good matchup,
• 1:04:41
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• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: playing Bruce Smith. Tony, come on, take me through it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I know you lost the game, and you would have
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: he would have answered the questions and you would have said,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I want no, I wouldn't have. I would have I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: would have tricked you in the same and then the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: headlight the next day, psellly we lost, but I want
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: exactly and I want to say this, I don't. I'm
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: not mad at Jalen. I think Jalen is a great player.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: The question was do we talk? I just is there
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: too much talking? If you just and this is the
• 1:05:12
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• 1:05:14
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:22
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• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: you put it out there nobody else. I'll be honest
• 1:05:28
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• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I expected to take the major steps forward in my
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: mind have not. I thought Jalen would sement himself as
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: the number one corner in the league. He has not.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I thought and god Way would be a candidate for
• 1:05:43
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• 1:05:46
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• 1:05:51
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• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I think they're all supremely talented and they all are
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: still very good football. But right now, didn't you think
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: at this point in the season, we'll be talking about
• 1:06:06
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• 1:06:10
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• 1:06:16
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• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:24
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• 1:06:28
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• 1:06:32
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• 1:06:35
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• 1:06:38
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• 1:06:39
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• 1:06:42
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• 1:06:44
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• 1:06:47
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• 1:06:50
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• 1:06:53
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• 1:06:56
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• 1:06:59
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• 1:07:03
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  Speaker 1: in Mandarin tonight. Paul I understand his upset. Paul, good evening, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: good evening, guys. How you doing. I'm gonna sound the alarm, um.
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  Speaker 1: This team is good enough to win games. They're going
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  Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs. But as exposed he there's
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks every year. You hear about the draft, guys that
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  Speaker 1: can make all the fires. If they said that about Blake,
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  Speaker 1: they were lying. Blake's got a crossing pattern. He's got
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  Speaker 1: these screens that he can throw anything downfield. It's a crapshoot.
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  Speaker 1: He got lucky with the Moncreeve pass against against the Jet,
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  Speaker 1: and then look what he did this week. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you've got receivers are doing you know, gymnastics act just
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  Speaker 1: trying to catch these balls. There's no velocity on these throws.
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  Speaker 1: They're all over the damn place. You know, the sooner
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  Speaker 1: that this team realizes that they need a real quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: that that that they can adjust their game plan around
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: mid game. This is the better this team is gonna be.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: I'm worried that we're gonna come to that realization too
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  Speaker 1: late and squander a really, really solid defense that is
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  Speaker 1: doing everything they can to win games. But Blake's just
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's his first years were awful. He started
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: trying to get it together, and people wanted to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this playoff running had last year. That Buffalo game
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: is about the worst game that I've ever seen offensively.
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  Speaker 1: And you know next week that wasn't on Blake, by
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  Speaker 1: the way. That was the game play, that was how
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  Speaker 1: they designed it. I saw a screen I saw a
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  Speaker 1: screen pass that couldn't go about three yards without fluttering
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  Speaker 1: and hitting the floor. That has to do with arm
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  Speaker 1: strength and and form. And I don't think that he
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  Speaker 1: cannot grow spiral. That's what I thought. It was. Charlie
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  Speaker 1: huff Well, hard to argue arm right, the arm strength
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  Speaker 1: because of a screen passes? What's what was this point?
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  Speaker 1: He said said, there gonna be a playoff team, but
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  Speaker 1: Blake has been exposed and they need to get another quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to get a quarterback this way here
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  Speaker 1: or this week. So they might get one in the
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  Speaker 1: draft though. We're not talking draft at three and two, Pete. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we could always talk. No, We've done enough of that
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  Speaker 1: over the years. In Week five, I'm just saying, if
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  Speaker 1: they if at that point, Okay, Tony, would you have
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: agreed with me that you should have never drafted the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: running back in the first place. You should have taken
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: a quarterback in that on that draft. And this has
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: nothing with Leonard for Nette. I told I said, I
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  Speaker 1: was on the record before that draft. J P. You
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  Speaker 1: were here, I was logs and I argued back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: and I said I would never take a running back
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  Speaker 1: at the number five picks. You know that right now.
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  Speaker 1: In fairness, I knew they were so I didn't do
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  Speaker 1: any homework on the quarterback, and I didn't you had
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  Speaker 1: insight until well, I mean everyone knew info. You had
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  Speaker 1: a mole. You should have taken my homes I can
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: make an argument take I mean my homes is. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's easy now. I didn't. I I was, I would
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  Speaker 1: have taken back then. Okay. I'm just saying, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying you didn't say that, Pete. I never said that.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch one tape of college football a Patrick
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  Speaker 1: ma Holmes because I didn't think this team was gonna
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  Speaker 1: take a quarterback, so I wasn't even looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: Based on everything we had heard leading up close to
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  Speaker 1: the draft, none of us thought they were taking a quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And so but I, I said before, I'd never taken
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  Speaker 1: running back. Nothing to get I wouldn't take. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: take say, Kwon Barkley at two, Nor would you have
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  Speaker 1: to take took uh Ezekiel Elliot where they took me
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  Speaker 1: Todd Gurley at ten. And yet you're willing to give
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  Speaker 1: up back around pick and pay levy on that. I
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  Speaker 1: would take a guy, yeah, because levy on Bill is
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: twenty six years old. And I would take a running
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  Speaker 1: back in the second round if I knew he was
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  Speaker 1: gonna be all pro, yes and pay him. Yes? Not me? Well, Pete, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we you never answered the question, Mr, GM, So before
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  Speaker 1: we go to the next call, answer this question. Can
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  Speaker 1: this roster the way it is built right now when
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  Speaker 1: having to rely on a pass offense uh and not
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: be on the run the ball consistently? No? Okay, so
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: you're the GM. You have this great defense. What are
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: you gonna do? I'm gonna get I'm gonna get my
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: trainers to get that hamstring right on. The running back
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  Speaker 1: I did draft at the top five, not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: He's not coming back this week or next week. Well,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: they said he They're gonna give him a goal on
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Wednesday and see HWI frights. So now he's coming back.
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  Speaker 1: He said, they're going to give him a run on
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  Speaker 1: Winds and see how it goes from there. Anyone, Okay, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a healthy Leonard for Nett, which is
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  Speaker 1: not clearly right now, but if he gets healthy in
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, is there any reason to trade
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  Speaker 1: for leve You on Bell? Do I are you asking
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  Speaker 1: me who I think is better's healthy? Do you go
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  Speaker 1: get another running back? Do you give up a second
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  Speaker 1: round pick to go get another running back? I am
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  Speaker 1: not confident. I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the
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  Speaker 1: answer the question with a question to both of you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Confidence level that uh Leonard for Nette plays all eleven
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  Speaker 1: games coming up? Not yeah? Not not high? Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: you have one running back, guys, you have one running
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  Speaker 1: back on the roster. You're talking about giving up a
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  Speaker 1: draft pick collateral at number two second Okay, I'm an idiot, right,
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  Speaker 1: you tell me what your mr GM. Now you have one,
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  Speaker 1: I offered you one. I'd offer a five or X
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  Speaker 1: to the Falcons for Coleman. Maybe you can proby him loose.
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  Speaker 1: I'd go nosing around McCoy a little bit if I could. Um,
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  Speaker 1: what are my other options? That's about it, because there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing else out there. How about a mirror Abdullah? Would
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  Speaker 1: you take a look at him? Not a Braska guy.
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  Speaker 1: You want a power back, That's what you want, a
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  Speaker 1: power back. I needed the way we're I'm just saying
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  Speaker 1: what I've been told. Were built to run the ball.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't run the ball last year, Tony. It was
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  Speaker 1: a fabrication. The number one ranked rushing offense. They had
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  Speaker 1: Blake's yards, the fake punts and a ninety yard run.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, they didn't. Were they a power running
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  Speaker 1: team last year? Did they ever look at Did you
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  Speaker 1: ever look at them and go like you look at
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  Speaker 1: the power run team and go, oh, they're grinding. They're
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: grinding them. They're grinding the Steelers game early when they
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  Speaker 1: ran thirteen straight times in the fourth quarter. Put that
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  Speaker 1: in your pipe and smoke it. About the other. About
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  Speaker 1: the other fifteen games. No. Opening day against Houston, they
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  Speaker 1: went they ran the ball well at this yes, uh
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  Speaker 1: they did. Against they did it gets a number of teams.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: By the way, they weren't a power running team, you
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: know that, Tony. And then when they had to run
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: it in the fourth quarter in the playoff game with
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  Speaker 1: the lead, they couldn't do it. Good point. Now, after
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: the Miles Jack play, they didn't get a first down.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: You're right. I'm just tell John south Side, John, good evening,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: you're on the air. What's up, Hey, how's it going?
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  Speaker 1: So I want to talk about a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the chirping that went on at the end of the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: game and then after I believe our players are taking
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: the personality of our head coach. Recall against the Jets
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: game he went for two up a nine teams seconds lass.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's as Bushley gets to get. So
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: you can't expect the players acting different when Marone is
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: being Bushley. My opinion is Coughlin needs to step in,
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  Speaker 1: earn his money and get the culture in line fixed
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: and make everyone a pro because right now we're not
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: being professional. I feel like Coughlin really needs to step
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  Speaker 1: in there and get things straightened out. What are your
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  Speaker 1: guys fun? Thanks for the call. T that's a that's
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: a hot take right there. That's really a hot take.
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  Speaker 1: And it's come on, Tom, Tom's not the coach. He's
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: not a coach anymore. And and by the way, your
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: guys did some chirping back in the day to Tony
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: who the Jaguars in the nineties for nand O'Brien. I
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: never heard one guy tell me they were the best
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: at their position in the NFL. I never heard that
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: once in the media. Never. I never heard any player
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: once in the media say disrespect another player talked down
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: about another player. Well, if they did, Tom would have
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: hated it. Just you just said our team did that.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: So please tell me that Tom guys chirped. You guys
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: did did there were guys that did chirping? Come on
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: during the game? No, I mean before the game. Tell
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: me give me Nando did it? What do you say?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Keenan got blasted by the Steelers for supposedly some chirping
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: that they did at one point. It wasn't in the media.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: That's different. That was not in the media. Well, we're
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: never happened the media beat. I'm trying. I gotta think
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: about it. I've tried to, because you're stuff right now,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: focus and crap, So keep you crap. Let's go to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Brandon and St. Augustine. Brandon, good evening, you're on the air. Hello,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: you're on the air. What's up? Hey, how's it going? Um?
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I had a question about the can you hear me? Yes?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: We got to just keep talking. I had a question
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: about systems in the NFL. I was hoping to get
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: a little entire information and erapting my brain on it
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: all night. So when you look at the game from
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: a fan's perspective, and you know, listening to Tony and
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: the Boost during the game saying stuff like hey can
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: we chip, um, you know what's going on here? And
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  Speaker 1: then you know the corterbacks playing off all game. Um.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: From my perspective, it would be as easy as, you know,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: the head coach hitting the defensive coordinator button going hey,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: we're getting killed on these five yard routes. Let's play
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: some press. So my question is is the system so large,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: it's so complicated. The coaches are so in their bubble
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  Speaker 1: that it's hard to make adjustments like that. I've always
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  Speaker 1: wondered why they simply just don't get on the headset
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  Speaker 1: and say, hey, let's let's tighten this up, or hey
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  Speaker 1: let's chip I mean, is it because that chip plays
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: not in the playbook that week? Or can you give
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: me a little that very good question number one. It
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: could be a number of things. If you don't prepare
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: on it, if you maybe you didn't pay prepare prepare
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: for it during the week, and so it's harder than
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: installed things in the game. Not that you can't do it. Um,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: maybe there's something that we don't know. And maybe Todd
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: wash will say, listen, we actually had them right where
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: we wanted them at ten minutes and they only the
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: number one offense. It only scored ten points with the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: first half over. It's a fair point. And we felt
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: like that was the best strategy to keep everything in
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: front of us and make them drive it because we
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: didn't think they'd finished drives. Um. And they're playing against
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: the worst defense, and I mean their offense is playing
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: against the worst defense, so that maybe that was a strategy. Um,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: And it's fair. That's a fair point. That's why I'm
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: not overly and maybe or maybe, and so that's why
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not overly. I'm getting all these tweets that I'm
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: overly critical jail In. I mean, I said he played good.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: That's not my whole point was I is in the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: same thing I'd asked Todd wash I don't know why
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: they played off because other times what happens is players
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: just freelance and they do whatever they want out there.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: And maybe he was supposed to play up and didn't.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And so but those are fair questions.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: And sometimes the game gets away from you and it
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: gets going and it may be surprised you and you're
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: not prepared. I'm not saying that happened yesterday, And so
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: it could be any number of reasons why those adjustments
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: don't happen. Sometimes it's just bad coaching, guys missed things
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: it happens, or human beings. So it could be any
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: one of those things. Um, I'm not sure. I don't
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: know what. I don't know. The non chipping is surprising
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: to me. I don't know what coverages. I was trying
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: to figure out some of the coverages of why they
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: did certain things yesterday. I thought they were better in Man.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: I thought Mahomes was finding a lot of holes in
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: their zones in Yeah, and so I thought, I said
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: on the air, I'd like to see more man coverage
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: because I think I think our corners are great players.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: I say that all the time, don't I Yeah, no,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I would. I would agree to Tony headline. Vaselli calls
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: out Jaguar coaches. Where he's called out the corner tonight,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: he's called out the coaching staff. Next who's next to
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the quarterback? The executive VP? I mean, what else? You
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: gotta bring Tom down here. I'll talk to him to
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: I'd love to have Top bring Tom down. Let's get
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: him on the air. We got some good questions for him.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: We got some questions for you. I get. I want
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: to make sure everyone or stands this because it will
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: come into the Twitter stuff because I'm getting a lot
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: of tweets, which I love. Bring him. We'll get some
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: of those weeks the next break. Yeah, I'll read it more.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: This team set a different standard. And so here's my
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: question for the entire franchise in the fan base. Do
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: you want to be a great team like you've told
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: us and what we've heard or is okay and good
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: good enough? Because now they're That's all I'm saying is
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Jaalen a good corner. Absolutely, is that the standard that
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Jailen wants to be is that what I heard everyone
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: say he is? Is that what I've heard him say
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: is is that what I've heard me say he is? No,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: we've said he's great, we said he's the best, the
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: number one dominant take over game corner I was. I
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: mean on Twitter, I would say the same thing. By
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: the way that jail was here, because I respect him
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: as a player. I would just ask, does anyone think
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  Speaker 1: Very church in the locker room yesterday in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have a very good game yesterday. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: that's Pete Prisco, Tony, but my left I'm J. P. Shadrick. Yes, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: I like what he said there. It wasn't clash of
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  Speaker 1: the times, number one offense, nube of defense. They won. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they drove the ball. Not a lot of people have
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  Speaker 1: done that. They did it a few times. Um, we
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  Speaker 1: gotta get better. Okay, I'm fine with that's fair, and
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  Speaker 1: of the expectations they set last year, what they told
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  Speaker 1: they're not, and they're not. They're not the Baltimore Ravens,
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• 1:31:05
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• 1:31:12
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  Speaker 1: one tonight. I don't think they do win, so they'll
• 1:31:26
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• 1:31:33
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  Speaker 1: Just no? Hell no? Um not gonna happen. Um is
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• 1:32:08
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  Speaker 1: until after the season. Let's just make sure's no reason
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  Speaker 1: to ask me any more of those questions. Um. Uh,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: let's see here, there's another one. I mean, oh, would
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  Speaker 1: you trade for Eric Flowers of the Giants? No, No,
• 1:32:29
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• 1:32:31
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• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: gonna cut him. No, I don't think he's I'd rather
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• 1:32:39
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  Speaker 1: Tony is Richardson, not ready to play, not left tackle
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  Speaker 1: By the way, you're skipping over one of these, which
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  Speaker 1: it to why didn't they put him in the game
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: like yesterday? I'm like, no, because they had Blake Bortles
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• 1:33:37
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• 1:33:52
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  Speaker 1: by ten in the fourth was seven minutes left. Do
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  Speaker 1: you trust Blake to get to w No, you trust
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• 1:34:13
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  Speaker 1: playing that well yet. Did you look at his numbers yesterday?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: They were I watched the game. They he wasn't that great.
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  Speaker 1: A couple more, Tony, what do you got um? Make
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• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: their defense should be able to play well in that game.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: There's no stretch the field vertical threat on that team,
• 1:35:33
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  Speaker 1: you did. Actually, By the way, give him a lot
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  Speaker 1: Can we go around the wait? Wait? Can we have
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  Speaker 1: him read his promo just one time? Give me? I said,
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  Speaker 1: you got a couple of sentences written. It's not really
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  Speaker 1: hy I have this so far. It's only a week six.
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  Speaker 1: It's only week six with hold on with both the
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  Speaker 1: it's the Eagles coming into this game after losing the
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  Speaker 1: last two and looking up in the division at the
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: Washington Redskins. It's a must win game week six. Look
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: at that dramatic effect there, must win game's the overunder?
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  Speaker 1: How many times is he going to have to do
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  Speaker 1: that together? The other one he did when we were
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  Speaker 1: trying to come on week one. He did it about
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  Speaker 1: eight times and he stumbled and stammered over it. Probably,
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  Speaker 1: I say the overrunder on this one. This one seems
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  Speaker 1: pretty easy. Well, this is just I gotta find this
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  Speaker 1: might be a new segment. We could just have you
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  Speaker 1: read through it once a run through of sorts on
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  Speaker 1: the air. What else should I say after? And then
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: you could have you know what you know? It would
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: be a great segment JPS. Have Tony write it and
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  Speaker 1: you read it in your Monday night football. Great idea.
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  Speaker 1: I could just do it part of your paycheck to
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  Speaker 1: negative tell you how would you read it? I can't
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  Speaker 1: do it. Justice is let's go around the MC south
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  Speaker 1: though and all the games. And of course this week
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: the Colts on Thursday night lost that one for Andrew
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  Speaker 1: luck An eight four point for rating in that game,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: Eric Ebron, huge Fantasy day, some garbage time. There got
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  Speaker 1: it done. The Bills thirteen to twelve. I told you
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: on Thursday the Bills are gonna win that game. I said,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: I said they were. I thought they might win the
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: game too, by the way, there was between saying they
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  Speaker 1: might win. That's like I called it, jp ST the
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  Speaker 1: logo of the screen, thirteen to twelve, field goal at
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: the end house you got it done. And then of
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: course last night the Houston Texans and overtime knockoff the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys nineteen to sixteen with that great game by DeAndre Hopkins.
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  Speaker 1: The overtime catching run was fantastic and then the field
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  Speaker 1: goal to win it in the end, and we're taking
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  Speaker 1: a look on Jaguars dot com. Without catching run, the
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  Speaker 1: Texans got their second win. Somehow. That was a great game.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: It was a great defensive game, which is different than
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: what we've become accustomed to this year, right, I mean
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: it was back and forth, a lot of drama, good crowd,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: good atmosphere, guys playing tough. I liked it. I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: I did too, But how many times did they say
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  Speaker 1: on NBC, look at this Texans, these Texas games, these
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  Speaker 1: Texas it's in Texas. Oh my god, what the hell
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  Speaker 1: does that matter? Pet I know, but they kept saying
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  Speaker 1: it over and over and over again. So I missed
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  Speaker 1: the first part of it cause I was flying home, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: So uh, by the time I got back home, I
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: was listening. Collinsworth was just talking about J. J. Watt
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, he must be having a big night.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: So I got onto my phone to look at uh,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: like the the box score. He had one solo tackle,
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: zero sacks, and one quarterback pressure. It was like the
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  Speaker 1: end of the It was the beginning of the fourth quarter.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, like, the hype machine is out, and then
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  Speaker 1: he ended up getting a sack. I mean, I'm not
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: saying maybe he was playing good, but it was just funny.
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  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, Pete, if you had
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  Speaker 1: thought listening to it, he was like he had DeShawn
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  Speaker 1: Watson in the Hall of Fame at halftime. That's what
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: they do. So the the Titans is that a house
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: of cards? Now, Pete, that's a game they should have won.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't. Yeah, I mean, look the Titans that you
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: can't go to Buffalo and lose that game. He just can't.
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  Speaker 1: And and last week, remember I said Mariota had that
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: kind of game where it's it's he's arrived, he's arrived,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: and he regretsed although he did hit a guy for
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: a touchdown pass that should have won it and a
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: guy dropped it. I don't know if you saw that,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: m but he didn't know. And that's a bad that's
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: a bad loss for the Titans. You know, you're gotta
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: lose games like Jacksonville did to the Chiefs, but you
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: lose to the Titans on the I mean to the
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Bills on the road. They've been dreadful. That's a bad
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: loss for the Titans. All Right, the South standings and
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: we'll get to the meaningless power rankings, but the standing
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: should be. The power rankings sent a C three and two,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville three and two, Houston two and three in the
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: at the bottom one and four. So after the injuries
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars and the questions at running back, would
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: you put the Texans ahead of the Jaguars. Their offensive
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: line is awful, it is absolutely awful, and they made
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: a change at right tackle and they're still awful. No, Tony, No, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying I would either. I'm asking you, the
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  Speaker 1: unbiased person on the show. No, But you know what
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: you gotta think about this. Bill O'Brien benefited from Frank
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: Wright going for it on fourth down in overtime, and
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: then he benefited from it last night from Jason Garrett
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  Speaker 1: not going for it and forth down and over there.
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  Speaker 1: Would you have gone for it? Yes? I would have.
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  Speaker 1: On the I would have gone for it. I would
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  Speaker 1: not have done what Frank Wright did because that was stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I would have done I would have gone for it.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference? What one was on one side of
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: the field, one was on the other. It was ten yards,
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  Speaker 1: makes a difference. It's twenty and there's nineteen seconds left.
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  Speaker 1: What's the end game? If Frank Wright goes for it,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: what's your end game? You're still gonna have almost no
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: chance to get a field goal. You have one time
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  Speaker 1: out nineteen seconds. Come on, Tony's a big difference. All right,
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  Speaker 1: you gonna? Are you watching on film? Besides the first drive?
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  Speaker 1: the National Football League, gentleman, and start off with the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers at the Giants against the Giants thirty three thirty one.
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  Speaker 1: Panthers win. A Manning to Barkley touchdown a minute eight
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  Speaker 1: left took the lead for the Giants, but then Graham
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  Speaker 1: Gonna hit a sixty three yard field goal to win it. Unreal.
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  Speaker 1: There was a bad spot in that game too. Right
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: before that kick, they questionable spot. Let's put it that way,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: and uh, they got away with it, and they got
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: the field goal and won the game. Hey, you can't
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  Speaker 1: expect the guy to make a sixty three yard field goal, though, Tony,
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  Speaker 1: You've been involved in one of those before, haven't you.
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  Speaker 1: Sixty three yard? Didn't Jason Nel and make one against you? Guys?
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  Speaker 1: Was it? It wasn't a game winner. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it was not. It was at the end of that
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  Speaker 1: that's the longest game winning field goal in the history
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: of the league, actually tied with Dempsey. Tom Dempsey hit
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: sixty three year older to win the game. Uh. The
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Bengals overcome a seventeen nothing deficit in the third quarter
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: and scored seven unanswered. They had two defensive scores in
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: the rally. They're not four and one, guys. It's look,
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  Speaker 1: they've they've not played great football in their four and
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: one and they got a big one this week. JP.
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  Speaker 1: They got the Steelers. Oh the Steelers. Have they turned
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  Speaker 1: it around? Pete. They look good on defense, I'll give
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: him that better. They sacked the quarterback. They had six
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: sacks on against the Falcons, and you know at times.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like Matt Ryan had he was getting hit NonStop.
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  Speaker 1: So they I don't know if they've turned it around Tony,
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  Speaker 1: but they looked a lot better on defense. They have
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  Speaker 1: to play better than they've played. The Falcons are done.
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  Speaker 1: D oh and eat how you're gonna spell that Tony
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  Speaker 1: off the Falcon? I mean the Jets. Well, I got
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  Speaker 1: a question for pet Are dan Quinn in trouble, Pete, No,
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  Speaker 1: too many injuries on defense, don't. I don't like the
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  Speaker 1: heck of a coach. I'm just curious. Yeah, they lost
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  Speaker 1: the middle of their defense. You know that you can't
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: in this league. You can't play without the middle of
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  Speaker 1: your defense. Browns over the Ravens twelve to nine, and
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: over time they avoided another tie, a thirty seven yard
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  Speaker 1: knuckleball field goal with two seconds left and overtime to
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: win it for the Browns. There now two two and one, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: Bad loss for the for the Ravens. And I know
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  Speaker 1: they're coming off the road game against uh, you know,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: against the Steelers, and there's always a lot of emotion,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: you know, tied to that game, and you're playing back
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: to back road games. But you can't allow that to happen.
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  Speaker 1: You just cannot allow that to happen. I'm sorry. It's
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: just a bad loss for the Ravens. And you know what,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: the Browns have been in a lot of games. They're
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: playing good football. Their defense is uh, talent is good,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: their skill talent is good, their line is better than average.
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  Speaker 1: They actually could be a good football team if they
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: don't screw it up. And Mayfield's playing good for Mayfield,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: I think is a real NFL quarterback watch out for
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean not this year. I still think
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: they're a six nine and one team or seven eight
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: and one team. But next year and next years you
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: have enough first round picks over the years and and
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: keep them around the building, then things can happen for you.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: The Vikings over the Eagles one cousins with a nice day,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: thirty or thirty seven feeling had a big day for them.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: The Vikings defense got it on the action. You said
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: earlier that the Eagles quarterback had a good day. Pete
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: had day. No, I didn'tay he had a bad day.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: I just saying he's not what he was. And so, Peter,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: here's your question. If I told you these numbers two
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: thirty four three or eleven yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: a hundred and fifteen quarterback rating. He's had a good
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: or bad day. It was it was a solid days.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the same as he's been Tony. If you
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: watch the did you watch the game? He took a
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: ton of shots. He's he's been sacked twelve times in
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: the last two weeks. I'm not saying that that's not
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: here nor there. Those are good numbers, and eight point
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: five yards per tempt good numbers. Pete Persco is clueless
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: once again. Hey, the Vikings have problems on defense, Yeah
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: they do. Pete would happen. I don't know. Well, the
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: past rush no Griffin hurts him and I don't know
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: if he's coming back anytime, so he might not come
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: back at all. Wow, Wow, what a change there. The
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: Rams winners over the Seahawks Todd Gurley with three touchdowns.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: The Rams overcame a couple of golf interceptions, a game
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: winning field goal with six minutes left in the game.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: They held on. I'm telling you right now there, defense
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: it's good is an issue. Back to back weeks they've
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: given up over thirty points and you know what they've
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: been getting run on their twenty something in the league
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: and run defense Tony. And you know they go to
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: Denver this week. They're gonna score points, but they're not
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: playing very good against the run. And and you know
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: Peters had a rough go but he got beat for
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: a couple of players last their secondary isn't he got
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: He got beat when they played the Vikings as well.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins um, I think one of their problems, I've
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: been saying it all offseason is they don't rush the
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: passer from the outside like you need to in that defense. Well,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but I know this. They're
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: gonna play the Broncos, who've got railroaded by the Jets.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: I think the Rams will be just fine. Yeah, I
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: like a Crowl fifteen carries two hundred nineteen yards and
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: a touchdown for the Jets in a big day. Where
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: did that come from? Because it didn't look like he'd
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: be able to do that after last week. That's what
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos are a good defense, or you thought they were.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him against the Chiefs, and the chief in
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  Speaker 1: the span of a week, they've gone from three and
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  Speaker 1: one to now question in themselves. But you hear, but Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I mean they they ended up holding Casey the twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven points pretty good. I know their run defense isn't
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  Speaker 1: great either, though. There's our look around the National Football
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  Speaker 1: League Monday night football quarterback Drew Brees yards away from
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  Speaker 1: becoming the NFL's all time leading passer. Tonight, the Saints
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  Speaker 1: welcome Alex Smith, Adrian Peterson and the two and one
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  Speaker 1: Washington Redskins to the Superdome. Who you've gotten a big
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  Speaker 1: easy tonight, big bow. Oh, it's New Orleans all day long.
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  Speaker 1: And the Mercedes Benz Dome the Superdome, that's what it's calling, right,
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  Speaker 1: the Mercedes Been super Dome. Same thing. It's a dome
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  Speaker 1: and it's a Mercedes Bends and it's super. So what
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter the order, really, because the one thing that
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  Speaker 1: is consistent in that building is Drew Brees rolls and
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  Speaker 1: Drew Brees a big night tonight. I know the Redskins
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  Speaker 1: are number one on defense on paper, but it's paper
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  Speaker 1: only their paper. Champ Breeze goes right through Breeze will
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  Speaker 1: break the record, but it's gonna be a lot tougher
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  Speaker 1: than Tony thinks. I think the Redskins are gonna hang
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  Speaker 1: around in this game, Uh, and make a game of it.
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  Speaker 1: The SAT You still don't believe in the Saints defense,
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  Speaker 1: do you, Tony? No? Absolutely not. But well, the Redskins
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  Speaker 1: will get points and it's gonna be a fun game
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  Speaker 1: to watch. But I think in the end, but who
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  Speaker 1: eats Pete? Just say who Sat pull it out? Shut up?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I said. Yeah, you said it was gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a blowout. I never said that. I said Breeze
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  Speaker 1: runs through the Redskins, that he's gonna run through him,
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  Speaker 1: then he's not gonna If he's running through him the
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  Speaker 1: way you're talking about, it's gonna be a blowout. Does
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  Speaker 1: he break the record in the first half? No? How
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  Speaker 1: many does he need? No? Second quarter? I said no.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh you are. He'll get it down third quarter.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. Uh. The Jags and the Dallas Cowboys coming
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  Speaker 1: up this Sunday at another national game for everybody to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I got a bit, Uh is it bucking? It's a kid? Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Um Pete. This one worries me, and it worries me
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  Speaker 1: because of the offensive line be beat up and no
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: depth at running back. Right now, I'm really interested. I
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  Speaker 1: hope pet can go now. I think the defense will
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  Speaker 1: be great, but I could see a defensive battle because
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  Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys defense is pretty good. It'll be
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  Speaker 1: a low scoring game. JACKSONVILLELL find a way. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: pick it. Sixteen thirteen Jaguars thirteen Jacksonville. All right, the
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  Speaker 1: picks are in. I'm in here a lock there, Tony
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  Speaker 1: was Frisco. I'm j P. Shadrick can't lock it. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: we'll catch you next time. It's Jaguars Happy, our present
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