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Katie spoke with Sky News' Matt Cunningham about ICAC being investigated · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: It's just sixteen minutes away from ten o'clock and it
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  Speaker 1: is being reported today by Sky News that police have
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  Speaker 1: launched an investigation into allegations of misconduct within the Northern
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  Speaker 1: Territories Anti corruption watchdog. Now joining me on the line
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  Speaker 1: right now is Sky News, Well, Northern Territory correspondent or
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  Speaker 1: news chief. I'm not sure exactly what your title is,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. Have we got you Matt Cunningham? Are you
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  Speaker 2: there all right? We're having some technical issues there.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see if we are able to get Mash on
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  Speaker 1: the line. I'm not one hundred percent sure what's going on, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: Can you hear us?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: I seem to be having some technical issues at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have Matt Cunningham for some reason. Some tech
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  Speaker 1: issues there. So we'll see what we can do and
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  Speaker 1: if we are able to get mass back on the
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  Speaker 1: line and we'll go to him in just a couple
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  Speaker 1: of moments. But yes, from what is being reported, what
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  Speaker 1: we can see is it have launched an investigation into
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  Speaker 1: allegations of misconduct within the Northern Territori's anti corruption watchdog.
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  Speaker 1: That is what Matt Cunningham from Sky News is reporting,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll see if we can get Matt back on
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  Speaker 1: the line and find out exactly what the situation is
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  Speaker 1: with this investigation. In the meantime, a few messages coming
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  Speaker 1: through this morning. I've got one here from Peter and
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  Speaker 1: it says, good morning three six years Barnaby Joyce in
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  Speaker 1: isolation in the USA. If you know anyone in the
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  Speaker 1: government there, can you ask to make it permanent, says Peter.
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  Speaker 3: One here from I'm not too sure who this one
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  Speaker 3: is from, but it says that Big w Woolworth's and
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  Speaker 3: Cole's and probably others have now installed electronic manual check
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  Speaker 3: in and remove the pen and paper version.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for making us aware of that.
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  Speaker 1: I hopefully have Matt Cunningham on the line. Good morning
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  Speaker 1: to you, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: Good good mate. I've got you now, Matt Cunningham.
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  Speaker 1: What is we I'm obviously just seeing that Sky News
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  Speaker 1: that you are reporting that. Well, we've got a situation
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  Speaker 1: where Northern Territory police are investigating or have launched an
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  Speaker 1: investigation into the Northern Territories ICAC.
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  Speaker 4: That's right now. I've been able to confirm that there's
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  Speaker 4: a police operation. It's been code named Operation. It's being
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  Speaker 4: run by the Special References Unit of the Anti Police, which,
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  Speaker 4: of course, as we know, is that special Unit Katie
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  Speaker 4: that looks into things such as conflicts of interest and
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  Speaker 4: allegations of corruption. Now it's investigating allegations of his conduct,
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  Speaker 4: historical allegations of his conduct that should be pointed out
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  Speaker 4: within the Office of the Independent Commissioner against Corruption. Now
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  Speaker 4: these allegations predate the appointment of the current Commissioner, Michael Witches.
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  Speaker 4: They relate to people who are no longer working at
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  Speaker 4: the Northern Territory i CAP. But I have confirmed that
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  Speaker 4: the Special References the Unit have taken detailed witness statements
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  Speaker 4: in relation to this investigation, including statements from former staff members. Now,
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  Speaker 4: as we reported before, there was that issue Katie where
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  Speaker 4: there was an almost out Australian police officer by the
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  Speaker 4: name of David mcinlay his award of investigation contracts at
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  Speaker 4: the office of the IKAK. Now he's the facto partner.
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  Speaker 4: Kate Kelly at the time was the Director of Investigation.
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  Speaker 4: Now my understanding is that that's one of the things
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  Speaker 4: that's been investigated. There's no suggestion of any wrongdoing. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: we probably should point out that the KAQ Inspector actually
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  Speaker 4: investigated this issue and he's found he actually dismissed a
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  Speaker 4: complain about this. But what we do know is that
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  Speaker 4: the police are now investigating that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, goodness, may I mean it is? It does sound
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  Speaker 1: pretty serious. I don't know that anybody would have expected
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  Speaker 1: that the Northern Territory Police would be investigating the ik
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  Speaker 1: So it does sound as though it's a pretty serious situation.
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  Speaker 4: Here, that's right. And we've got a statement from the
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  Speaker 4: Order Territory Police confirming that they confirmed that they are
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  Speaker 4: investigating an historical matter in relation to the Office of
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  Speaker 4: the Independent Commissioner against Corruption. They said they couldn't provide
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  Speaker 4: any more details because of that investigation is ongoing now.
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  Speaker 4: I also went to the ICACH for comment. I just
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  Speaker 4: point out that I tried to contact David McKinlay and
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  Speaker 4: Kate Kelly. They didn't return calls yesterday and haven't responded
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  Speaker 4: to messages asking for comment in relation to this matter.
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  Speaker 4: When I went to the ICACK, Michael rich has actually
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  Speaker 4: pointed me to a statement that he put out a
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  Speaker 4: couple of months ago, basically saying that the ka will
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  Speaker 4: cooperate with any investigation into its office, but it's inappropriate
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  Speaker 4: for the IKAC to comment on any of those matters
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  Speaker 4: in relation to allegations or investigations into its staff, as
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  Speaker 4: he says, he wouldn't comment on investigations that the IKAK
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  Speaker 4: was undertaking undertaking. So yeah, it's all. It's all the
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  Speaker 4: pretty serious business. But it's probably not a hell of
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  Speaker 4: a lot more we can say at the moment other
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  Speaker 4: than police have concerned. But that investigation is happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was going to say, Matt, I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if we ever will really know a huge amount more
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  Speaker 1: detailed than what we've got today.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I suppose that will depend on where this investigation
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  Speaker 4: ends up at Katie and the special references inducting this investigation.
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  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes these investigations can take many months, so
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  Speaker 4: you know, we may not know for some time where
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  Speaker 4: this all ends up, but certainly it's something that's being
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  Speaker 4: investigated at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Matt Cunningham, A busy week for you, mate.
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  Speaker 4: It has seen, Yes, and I think we can get
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  Speaker 4: an out the Chief Minister in the next hour and
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  Speaker 4: a half in relations to what we can can't do.
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  Speaker 4: Come the twentieth of December, tating and also an interesting
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  Speaker 4: challenge in the Supreme Court today when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: the vaccine mandates.
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  Speaker 2: So I did see that.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I hope you to quietly wind out for Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to happen. No, I had just seen that.
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  Speaker 1: So Mario Service, the president of the United NT Business Incorporated,
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  Speaker 1: they have just issued a statement saying that today they
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  Speaker 1: are today commencing action in the NT Supreme Court to
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  Speaker 1: declare the mandatory vaccination directions of the Northern Territory CHOW unlawful.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be interesting. You have noticed that
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  Speaker 4: there's been some decisions. I think last week there was
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  Speaker 4: a decision in relation to the vaccine mandate of one
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  Speaker 4: of the mining companies. Maybe it would the HT but
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  Speaker 4: I could be wrong that the founder of the vaccine
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  Speaker 4: mandate couldn't be implemented. So it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 4: where this one goes. Katie. It's certainly an issue that's
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  Speaker 4: created plenty of controversy in the top end over the
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  Speaker 4: past month or so. Yeah, it was Supreme Court today.
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  Speaker 2: It most certainly has.
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  Speaker 1: And Matt Cunningham, we've had to move the week that
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  Speaker 1: was tomorrow, first time ever in the history of the
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  Speaker 1: week that was it's happening at ten o'clock because literally
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  Speaker 1: everybody has to be at a school.
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  Speaker 5: Assembly almost almost Matt, good on you mate.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again very soon. Thank you for
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  Speaker 1: keeping us up to date with that story. In relation
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  Speaker 1: to the Ikak