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Dr John Stamey & Center for Wilderness Cryptid Studies · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen?
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  Speaker 2: What? What's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 3: What all.
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  Speaker 4: This episode we got? We got a couple of guests
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  Speaker 4: with us. We got doctor John Steamy, we got Jeremy,
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  Speaker 4: and we've got Douglas and we will get to them
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  Speaker 4: after I'm done introducing all the other rejects that I hear.
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  Speaker 2: And to start off first, we got Broke. What is
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  Speaker 2: going on? Broke? How will you? Hi?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me tonight. I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: to get into this conversation. You can find me wherever
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  Speaker 1: you get your podcast at Dark Florida Podcast and on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram at Dark Floord.
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  Speaker 4: Podcast and real quick, please promote that speaking of it,
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  Speaker 4: did you have please?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right. On October eighteenth, I will be down
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  Speaker 1: in Fort Myers at Charlie's Beyond Belief XFO. I will
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  Speaker 1: be speaking about Bigfoot, the paranormal and everything in between.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're in the area, please come out. The
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  Speaker 1: Occult Rejects will also have a booth there and it
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a really good time.
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  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, it's gonna be awesome, so definitely come down
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  Speaker 4: and get way with us. Check us out at Charlie's
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  Speaker 4: Beyond Belief, and of course since that it's out of
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  Speaker 4: Masonic Lodge, we had to get booth thirty three, so
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  Speaker 4: and we got broken next to us at booth thirty two.
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  Speaker 4: So very good, very good. So thank you very much, Mok.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate you making it and we got the Headless Giant.
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  Speaker 4: What was going on, sir?
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  Speaker 2: How are you hi?
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  Speaker 5: You doing? I'm the Headless Giant. You can find me
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  Speaker 5: on Twitter at the Headless Giant and also on YouTube
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  Speaker 5: Headless Giant. And if you have any sort of weird
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  Speaker 5: paranormal stories or dreams or any sort of occult practices
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  Speaker 5: that you may have engaged in that you want to
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  Speaker 5: send to me so that I can read them on
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  Speaker 5: the air. My email address is the Helpless Giant podcast
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  Speaker 5: at gmail dot com and I can't wait to read them.
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  Speaker 5: And Nick is my cost. If you send it to
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  Speaker 5: us and include your address, we can get some stickers
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  Speaker 5: out to you. And also my artwork is going to
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  Speaker 5: be on display at nick Booth. Just got that in
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  Speaker 5: the mail, so.
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  Speaker 2: Hel check it out. Definitely definitely show up.
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  Speaker 5: So thank you, no.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for thank you for coming on Heillis and
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  Speaker 4: definitely send out send an email to him and leave
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  Speaker 4: your address and I will send you out a free
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  Speaker 4: pack of a cult reject stickers. Thank you very much, sir,
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  Speaker 4: And we got so with us tonight.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on? How are you go?
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  Speaker 6: Hey, hey, thanks so much for having me. It's good
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  Speaker 6: to be here in the House of the Lord again.
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  Speaker 6: Anytime we can all sit down and share some wisdom,
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  Speaker 6: that's a good day. So I am Sarah. I'm the
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  Speaker 6: director of public relations for the Institute for Natural Philosophy
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  Speaker 6: as well as the co host for Universe Unveiled podcast
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  Speaker 6: and you can find me at Sahara cosmos X.
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  Speaker 4: List to that she's making moves. She's been promoted since
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  Speaker 4: the last time she was on I'll uh listen.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thank you very much for making it.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 4: And for the listeners who may not know who who
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  Speaker 4: she is or that show is yet, please go check
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  Speaker 4: out that show. They have awesome guests on. I was
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  Speaker 4: one of them, so you already know what time it is.
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  Speaker 4: Go check it out. And we got Tyrone, my man.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on?
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  Speaker 4: So please let everybody know what's up with you and
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  Speaker 4: where they can find all your amazing stuff.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on. Everybody, appreciate it. Thank you for letting
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  Speaker 3: me be here. I'm glad to meet everybody here. Everything
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  Speaker 3: you can find on me is on my website, Rebirth
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  Speaker 3: at theWord dot com, and you can give my best
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  Speaker 3: seller book from Amazon, Journey through the Origins of History appreciated.
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  Speaker 7: Nick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, thank you very much for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: And finally, to the guests, I know you guys have
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  Speaker 4: probably heard me go on about these events that the
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  Speaker 4: cole rejects got boots at most of them, or this
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  Speaker 4: man's events that he has put together, so I'm very
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  Speaker 4: happy to be able to get him on. I appreciate
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  Speaker 4: him giving me the chance to have a booth at
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  Speaker 4: all these events. That's what's up, and I look forward
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  Speaker 4: to having fun. I think I'm going to meet a
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  Speaker 4: lot of interesting people and have a great time. And John,
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  Speaker 4: please let everybody know what your deal is and what's up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening.
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  Speaker 8: First of all, it's great to meet all your wonderful
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  Speaker 8: co hosts. And I'm doctor John Stamy and I produce
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  Speaker 8: paranormal events. I guess my signature event is the Georgia
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  Speaker 8: Bigfoot Conference. In the World UFO conference, we are starting
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  Speaker 8: a series of UFO comic cons and Bigfoot comic cons.
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  Speaker 8: So on October fourth, we are going to have the
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  Speaker 8: second Bigfoot Comic Con in Franklin, North Carolina, right on
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  Speaker 8: the border with Georgia. That is at the Factory, which
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  Speaker 8: is a one hundred thousand square foot kids and adults,
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  Speaker 8: if you want to arcade and amusement park. It's indoors.
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  Speaker 8: It's the most fun you can ever have. I got
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  Speaker 8: I got to play in some games and it was
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  Speaker 8: just terrible. I couldn't get away from them. But no,
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  Speaker 8: it's gonna be a lot of fun. We got great speakers.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, first of all, we've got John Price, who's
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  Speaker 8: the state director of Alabama. Move I'm gonna be talking
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  Speaker 8: about Bigfoot in UFOs. We're going to have goll yeh,
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  Speaker 8: I forgot, I've forgotten who all. We're gonna have lots
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  Speaker 8: of cool people, but especially those two gentlemen with us
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  Speaker 8: tonight with the Center for Wilderness Cryptid Studies. We've got
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  Speaker 8: Douglas and Trey. Hey, Douglas, how are you?
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  Speaker 7: And Don? Good?
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  Speaker 2: Great?
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  Speaker 9: Trey, how are you?
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  Speaker 7: I'm doing great, man, It's good to see you again.
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  Speaker 8: And I'll tell you why they're here. This is one
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  Speaker 8: of those things. I'm a big believer in the Chamber
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  Speaker 8: of Commerce. I believe that's how you get in touch
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  Speaker 8: with thousands of people with your events. And when I
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  Speaker 8: was there joining the Chamber of Common last month, they said,
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  Speaker 8: wait a second, you do Bigfoot. There's this guy Douglas
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  Speaker 8: that has something about wilderness and cryptid So I said,
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  Speaker 8: give me his name and address and phone number now.
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  Speaker 8: So I called and left him a message. A couple
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  Speaker 8: days later he called, and it was wonderful.
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  Speaker 9: It was like old home week.
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  Speaker 8: We're we're doing things in the town where they live,
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  Speaker 8: and a town that I love that I have some
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  Speaker 8: really good friends, like Mark Munsey, the paranormal author. In fact,
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  Speaker 8: he's going to be the keynote speaker there. Mark's great.
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  Speaker 8: He was just at the Mofman Festival this weekend. He's
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  Speaker 8: just all over everywhere. He's a great guy. So you
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  Speaker 8: will enjoy John Price. You're going to enjoy Mark Munsey.
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  Speaker 8: I will be there speaking, and of course these two
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  Speaker 8: gentlemen for the Center for Wilderness Cryptid Studies. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 8: We're all all the speakers. Oh and also n CI
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  Speaker 8: North Carolina Investigates will be there. Jones can't be there
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  Speaker 8: because he's going to be in Europe. He and his
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  Speaker 8: wife are going to be there witnessing the wedding of
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  Speaker 8: their best friends who are getting married in the Netherlands,
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  Speaker 8: so they can't be there, but.
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  Speaker 9: They will be with us next time.
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  Speaker 8: We're looking forward to even having another one, another Bigfoot
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  Speaker 8: Comic con there in Franklin in February of twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 8: More on that later, but right now, I would like
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  Speaker 8: to now because of the traffic in Charlotte today, I
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  Speaker 8: was coming to Morganton, my old hometown, and I couldn't
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  Speaker 8: get there because of all the traffic jams. So I
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  Speaker 8: am in Valdies, which is about twenty miles from Morganton.
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  Speaker 8: Some friends let me stand in their driveway and do
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  Speaker 8: my little introduction. So I'm gonna be I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 8: headed to Parts Unknown, which is my sweet little cousin,
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  Speaker 8: Sir Lynsas and Morganton, but I wanted to be here
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  Speaker 8: to mention the conference. On Friday, at four o'clock, we
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  Speaker 8: are going to have a big Foot bar cross starting
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  Speaker 8: at the Lazy Hiker in Franklin, and then we're going
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  Speaker 8: to go around to the rath Scaler. The Chamber of
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  Speaker 8: Commerce is going to be doing a ribbon cutting for us,
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  Speaker 8: and we're gonna have remarks by the past mayor Bob Scott.
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  Speaker 8: He was in the newspaper last week talking about six
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  Speaker 8: Bigfoot sightings in the Franklin area and I thought, well,
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  Speaker 8: we may as well get him to come there and
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  Speaker 8: talk to us. Everybody will enjoy it. So he will
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  Speaker 8: be there and then Saturday from ten to six at
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  Speaker 8: the Factory. It's on it's ten twenty four Georgia Street
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  Speaker 8: in Franklin. It's going to be a blast. We oh,
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  Speaker 8: We've got tons of tons of speakers, tons of great people.
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  Speaker 8: Nick will be there and so we can't wait to
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  Speaker 8: see everybody. It's only five dollars admission at the door.
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  Speaker 8: We're going to have about ten or twelve vendors. I
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  Speaker 8: had to keep it small the first time to kind
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  Speaker 8: of see how everything went. But I think I'm expecting
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  Speaker 8: great things there at the Factory as we continue to
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  Speaker 8: run these Bigfoot comic cons. So, without any further I
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  Speaker 8: want to thank Nick and all of his co hosts,
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  Speaker 8: and I want to introduce Trey and Doug the Center
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  Speaker 8: for Wilderness Studies and I am going to vanish like
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  Speaker 8: the Invisible Man and get on over to Morganton before
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  Speaker 8: it gets too late and I get picked up by
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  Speaker 8: a UFO.
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  Speaker 9: Is that okay?
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  Speaker 7: Nick?
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good to me, sir, Thank you very much, man,
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. All right, Nick, we'll see you.
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  Speaker 9: We'll see you guys soon.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Yes, you will playda John yep.
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  Speaker 4: So we got uh, we got Jeremy and Douglas and
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  Speaker 4: interesting enough, I mean maybe we should just thought off
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  Speaker 4: this way, interesting enough. Brooke actually met them recently. So uh,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys, if you guys even
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  Speaker 4: wanted to talk about that, that's noted interesting to begin with,
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  Speaker 4: about how you guys even met.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we met at a bigfoot camp out
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  Speaker 1: put on North Carolina Bigfoot Adventures by Cheryl Peacock. She's
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  Speaker 1: fantastic and you guys can take it away.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, Trey, you're the guy.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I can talk all about the event, and I
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  Speaker 11: would love to, because it was a great time. But
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  Speaker 11: as far as the most entertaining part of that was
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  Speaker 11: there was somebody out there who.
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  Speaker 7: He just uh, he just took.
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  Speaker 11: It to the next level and it made it very
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  Speaker 11: entertaining a little spooky for some people, and he did
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  Speaker 11: not finish out the camping trip with everybody, but yeah,
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  Speaker 11: it definitely made for a great icebreaker for everybody else
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  Speaker 11: that was involved.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of got stuck talking everybody just about the situation. Right,
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  Speaker 2: that's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an experience, right, it was definitely definitely made.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was an experience. He was this person.
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  Speaker 11: There were a small hiccup in what was actually what
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  Speaker 11: I found for me, you know, this was And I'd
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  Speaker 11: like to add that this was my first outing in
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  Speaker 11: relation to the Orger organization that Douglas and I are
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  Speaker 11: a part of, and also just looking for Bigfoot as
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  Speaker 11: a whole and as an introduction to that.
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  Speaker 7: I thoroughly enjoyed every part of it. I want to
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  Speaker 7: add that it.
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  Speaker 11: Did not take away, you know, being my first time.
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  Speaker 11: It did not like, oh Jesus, everybody like this, like
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  Speaker 11: oh my gosh, you never come back. I didn't have
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  Speaker 11: those thoughts at all. I had a great time, and
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  Speaker 11: I think it was very productive as a whole.
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  Speaker 5: So, Jeremy and Douglas, I'd like to ask you about
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  Speaker 5: your feelings about Bigfoot. Do you feel like this is
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  Speaker 5: something that we can actually make contact with or is it?
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  Speaker 5: You know, there's a value in the folklore itself, right,
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  Speaker 5: So by passing on these traditions of Bigfoot, you're almost
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  Speaker 5: creating a community, right kennes See.
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  Speaker 11: Doug, Doug, I'll let you go first with your thoughts.
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  Speaker 11: He's also the president and founder of the organization, so
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  Speaker 11: I'll let him take it away first.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, Douglas luck Miller, the president founder of the Center
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  Speaker 12: for Water Scripture Studies.
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  Speaker 10: We're a North Carolina nonprofit.
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  Speaker 12: Organization that is devoted to researching the possible existant to Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: So with that said, possible existence.
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  Speaker 10: Exactly, that's the way we approach it.
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  Speaker 12: We actually are almost kind of like approaching it to
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  Speaker 12: disprove it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, people think you're less cooky that way too, if you.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that give my myself an out for that.
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  Speaker 12: But now I'm fifty to fifty, I'm thinking that maybe
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  Speaker 12: there is, maybe there's not. It's I come from a
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  Speaker 12: law enforcement background. I was a traffic homicide investigator in
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  Speaker 12: South Florida, and.
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  Speaker 7: I think the.
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  Speaker 12: Looking into the possibilities of something is what intrigues me
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  Speaker 12: the most. And this is something that I spent a
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  Speaker 12: lot of time hiking in these mountains, and a lot
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  Speaker 12: of the times big bonds at night, sitting around the
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  Speaker 12: campfire trying to like scare each other, subject always comes
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  Speaker 12: up a Bigfoot and I'm like, you know, once I
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  Speaker 12: lost my hiking partner and wasn't able to really go
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  Speaker 12: out and do that anymore, I'm like, you know, what
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  Speaker 12: am I going to do to get back out there?
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  Speaker 12: And I'm like, this might be the best way to
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  Speaker 12: do it, get back out hiking again and have something
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  Speaker 12: to like maybe entertain myself, but also the possibilities of
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  Speaker 12: maybe finding something that nobody's been able to find before.
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  Speaker 12: So started up the organization went from there.
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  Speaker 5: There's value in the adventure.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right, That's what it is. It's not the
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  Speaker 2: ending destination. It was the eventure.
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  Speaker 12: They get there, yep, and you never know, I didn't
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  Speaker 12: finding something nice nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually interested in Bigfoot also, and well, my
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  Speaker 3: specialties is the ancient text, going back to the ancient
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  Speaker 3: text as far as back to the Marians actually, because
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  Speaker 3: they're supposed to be the oldest with the oldest writing system,
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  Speaker 3: and they have an individual in their name, Inky Do,
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of times this individual is depicted as
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  Speaker 3: something that would look like a bigfoot, sometimes with horns
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  Speaker 3: to show that it's an animal, sometimes with you know,
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  Speaker 3: legs like bull or something like that to show that it's.
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  Speaker 9: Animal, but a human head and human arms and stuff
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  Speaker 9: like that.
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  Speaker 3: He was a best friend to Gilgamesh, and they also
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  Speaker 3: talk about the type of hair he has. So when
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  Speaker 3: you say you're fifty to fifty on it, that's where
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of the same way too, because we have
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  Speaker 3: ancient texts that says this. The only thing we don't
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  Speaker 3: have is actual physical evidence as one being seen with
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  Speaker 3: our eyes, you know what I'm saying, something that we
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  Speaker 3: can go to a museum or something to say, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's a big foot. Yeah, we have you know, footprints
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  Speaker 3: and so on and so forth. But we also have
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  Speaker 3: footprints of humans going back sixty five million years. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's just facts right there. So the idea of a
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  Speaker 3: bigfoot is just extraordinary to me. And I actually we
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  Speaker 3: live in Georgia, and I know that Georgia has uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of sightings and we have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of backwoods, and I'm back there and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: I actually walk back there and just you know, meditate
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  Speaker 3: sometimes and just you know, walk through the woods and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you hear things that are not normal.
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  Speaker 9: But that's if you're not normally out there.
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  Speaker 3: If you're somebody that's usually out there a lot, you
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  Speaker 3: start to tend to, you know, put the noise to
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  Speaker 3: the type of animal and stuff like that. So, but
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  Speaker 3: as far as the Samerians, I believe the Samerians about
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  Speaker 3: thirty two hundred BC. I'm gonna say, eighteenth eighteenth century.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yeah, about thirty two hundred BC, when
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  Speaker 3: the Samarans started their civilization. Uh, they've been you know,
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  Speaker 3: describing something that could be considered a big big foot.
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  Speaker 3: And I wanted to know from one of you guys,
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  Speaker 3: what's the oldest known tale that you know of a
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  Speaker 3: big foot?
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  Speaker 12: Wow, the oldest one for me, Robertson Gimlin would be
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  Speaker 12: for me, that's the oldest that I would know.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm actually kind of in the same beat with
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  Speaker 11: Doug when it comes to bigfoot related things. That was
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  Speaker 11: something that never really crossed my radar, and especially not
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  Speaker 11: related to ancient times in the time period that you're
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  Speaker 11: talking about. But I have always been pretty fascinated with
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  Speaker 11: the UFOs. So I've heard of very very very ancient
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  Speaker 11: depictions and scribings on the wall and whatnot related to aliens,
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  Speaker 11: but nothing with bigfoot. I'd have to be with Doug
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  Speaker 11: on that Patterson Gimlin was the or is the oldest
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  Speaker 11: reference to Bigfoot that I'm not aware of?
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, I was gonna say, yeah, it's interesting because
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people don't talk about that, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And I came across this just maybe a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years ago when I was looking up who was Inky
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  Speaker 3: to and he's literally the best friend of Gyilga.
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  Speaker 9: Mash and he's literally depicted.
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  Speaker 3: I like, because we know that all writing system started
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  Speaker 3: as a pictographics script, right, It started with symbols, started
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  Speaker 3: with some type of picture depicting something what we can
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  Speaker 3: what we can describe, you know, visually, but not in
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  Speaker 3: the words that we can put it in as a
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  Speaker 3: as of today. And those depictions literally do shows something
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  Speaker 3: would be considered a Bigfoot. And when you mentioned aliens,
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  Speaker 3: the Sumerians, uh, it's a hidden miss there. It's an
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: idea of them being you know, the Anina slash the
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Ananaki are aliens. It's just whether they're extraterrestrial or interterrestrial.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: And the idea that Bigfoot has this way of avoiding
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: people with you know, some way of tapping into some
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: type of portals or something like that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: To stay away.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: There's there's all these theories in these ancient texts going
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: even back to the Indus Valley civilization, even you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: going back with even the Aboriginal Australians that they talk
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: about it inner text. So it's just interesting that you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: around the world. And I've talked to uh uh, what's
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: his name, Michael Kremo, had a podcast discussion with him,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: and he's the Forbidden Archaeology and he has a whole
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: chapter on Bigfoot in his book and he describes it
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: from you know, the continents that you know humans live on,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the different descriptions of them.
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: Do you believe that Bigfoot is just not here? It's
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: just you know, there's different.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Species a bit big for depending on the continent, like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: you know how you know we have different you know,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: human races and stuff like that, Like YETI.
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, like Yetti exactly had Liz, thank you?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Like YETI yeah, it's different diet too.
• 18:31
  Speaker 11: Maybe I think if applying a scientific approach to it,
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: that there would be definitely different versions of what bigfoot
• 18:41
  Speaker 11: or like you said, yeti or whatever it might be
• 18:44
  Speaker 11: called in other cultures and languages, because you know, based
• 18:48
  Speaker 11: on where it would be geographically, would kind of determine
• 18:54
  Speaker 11: if it needs to be tall or short, or skinny
• 18:57
  Speaker 11: or fat or muscular or strong whatever, even the diet. Yes,
• 19:01
  Speaker 11: so yeah, I could definitely see there being a bunch
• 19:04
  Speaker 11: of different appearance variations to to.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Wells an interesting story about that too. She actually got
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of footprints from the swamps down there in Florida,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: and it was a different size and a different shape,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: but it's still sort of similar in morphology from you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: maybe up in Georgia there's there's much more taller and
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: more robust versions, but in the in the Florida swamps,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: they seem to be a little bit smaller. So you
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: have these regional variations of the sightings that you see
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: that regards the ones in.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Italy and mad short, so their feet a little bit small.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: We must have the Italian ones down here, because you
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: know that is true as far as the skuncake goes.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: There's a debate in the community right now if they
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: have four toes or the traditional five as well as
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: they do have different features, especially where you guys are
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. You know, I've heard reports of all
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: gray ones and even black. I think though what the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: camp out we were at, Cheryl was actually able to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: bring a witness there who had an encounter literally rate
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: in front of the campground, and she did describe it
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: as a cinnamon color, and that's or the dude did.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: But that's kind of the variation we hear a lot
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: down here too, is that they're more of the orange colors.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But as you move up into the Appalachians, like North Carolina,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: North Georgia and so on, they do change in appearance.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You hear they're really tall all black. So yeah, I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of a difference there.
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 11: We have a footprint that we've we didn't get to
• 20:47
  Speaker 11: cast it. At the time that we discovered this footprint,
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: we didn't have the capability to cast it, but we
• 20:53
  Speaker 11: did get a three D scan of it that is
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: on our website and it matches up with all the
• 20:58
  Speaker 11: other more fallow that you're seeing, you know, from people
• 21:03
  Speaker 11: that are getting cast and stuff. It was a left
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: and right. There was a break, you know, a heel
• 21:09
  Speaker 11: that this one had five toes. Yes, and we've got
• 21:17
  Speaker 11: that scan on our website to where you know, you
• 21:19
  Speaker 11: could you could google it right now on a phone
• 21:21
  Speaker 11: or a computer or whatever you've got, and you can
• 21:24
  Speaker 11: kind of, you know, change it around and look and
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: see from different angles. And I think it's it makes
• 21:31
  Speaker 11: a really good case for something that looks like it
• 21:33
  Speaker 11: could be a footprint or left and the right footprint,
• 21:36
  Speaker 11: and it has, Doug, what is it a six feet apart?
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: I think we've done six, yes, fourteen inch long footprint
• 21:43
  Speaker 12: left and a right about six foot gate and then
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: it went into some rocks and we weren't able to
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: get any further than that. But we couldn't cast anything.
• 21:52
  Speaker 12: It was in leaves and mud, but we were able
• 21:54
  Speaker 12: to do it with scan a verse, get a scan
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: that way and it turned out actually pretty good.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Very nice. Go ahead, go ahead.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: The technology angle. What kind of technology are you guys
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: bringing to these investigations.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: Doug, you want to? You want to sound it up
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: or you won't need to. What do we have We've
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: got basically you name it?
• 22:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's just about right.
• 22:25
  Speaker 12: We've invested a ton of money and everything. It's like
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: actually invested and stuff so quickly. It's kind of hard
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: to like be able to learn what it is because
• 22:35
  Speaker 12: of the fact that we're just gaining it so quickly.
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: But uh, while life acoustics for everything, they for the
• 22:42
  Speaker 12: audio part of it's wild tronics for the uh, parabolics,
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: zoom for the H one, n like everybody normally uses
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: with that kind of stuff, So we can leave it
• 22:56
  Speaker 12: out there.
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 22:58
  Speaker 12: The problem that I have been finding is that we
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: have been investing in some equipment and most of the
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: time when we're going out, we're going out into public areas,
• 23:08
  Speaker 12: and it's kind of hard to leave a lot of
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: stuff behind afraid that it's going to be taken. So
• 23:14
  Speaker 12: we're being kind of like conservative on what we do
• 23:17
  Speaker 12: with it. But that the night vision thermals, we've give
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: a cottage chief and just keep going with what we've got.
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: It's hard for me to remember everything.
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: But yeah, we've got flear thermal night vision, all cameras,
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: we've got the ld rs, the parabolic mics, we've got
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: just you know, we've got basic game cans, Doug, do
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: we have light are.
• 23:43
  Speaker 12: Now well light aer on the iPhone. That's that's the
• 23:46
  Speaker 12: best we've got for that. Okay, that's sinners.
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: We are trying to cover every ground that we possibly
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: can as far as data collection goes. And like Doug said,
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: some of this stuff, like the ld rs and the
• 23:59
  Speaker 11: game cams, you know, it does get kind of dicey
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: leaving them out in public places because you see online
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: all the time people just finding that stuff and tearing
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: it up. But when it comes to people that might
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: have a private property where we could leave these things
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: and trusts that they're going to be okay, or if
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: we're able to be out there physically with this equipment
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: and you know, watch over it and stuff, we are
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: trying to cover every ground that we possibly can and
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: collect data from every angle that we can come up with.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Now, what was it that you guys deployed on the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: camp out that we were at. I know you guys
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: were back in the woods. I turned around and my
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: research partner Marion is with Doug and they are like
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: deep in the woods behind the campground kind of where
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: a group camp was. We were all set up and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: rooms firing, and there's a bit of a ridge that
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: goes up then it kind of clears out and I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: know they were back there doing something with the audio.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: So what were what were you guys up to and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: did you guys capture anything.
• 25:02
  Speaker 12: I haven't been able to go through all of it yet,
• 25:05
  Speaker 12: so don't know. Those were the Wildlife Acoustic recorders. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: think they're I'm trying to think what the name of
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: those are song meter micro. I think we had three
• 25:17
  Speaker 12: of them out there after we had heard the next
• 25:19
  Speaker 12: morning that everything was going on up in the back
• 25:22
  Speaker 12: of the woods and around some of the tents. So
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: we've deployed three of them out. Haven't been able to
• 25:27
  Speaker 12: go through all of it yet. They're all three of
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: them were running for probably twelve hours, so we've got
• 25:34
  Speaker 12: all that to listen.
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: Haven't been able to get through all of it yet.
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: Haven't heard anything yet though.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: One of the big struggles with that is it's just
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: Doug and I and you know, I mean, like Doug said,
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: we had twelve hours of audio per per recorders. So
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: leave those out there for a weekend or even a
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: full day and it gets very difficult. And one of
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: the struggles we are having with the LDRs that that
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: neither one of us are a prize too, but a
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: way to you know, filter out things because you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 11: for example, well right now, if you've go outside, there's
• 26:10
  Speaker 11: gonna be some ambient noise.
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: We don't need to listen.
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: To that, and we probably wouldn't hear Bigfoot at that
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: same volume at you know, just for twenty four hours
• 26:21
  Speaker 11: or indefinitely. One of the things that I would love
• 26:24
  Speaker 11: to find a solution to is being able to filter
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: out decibel volumes. I'm not even I'm not an audio
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: person's I'm not I don't even know what terms to use.
• 26:36
  Speaker 11: But if that makes sense, like if all the audio
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: is going across like this for hours and hours and hours,
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: cut all that out, use AI to do it, or
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: some software.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: And just get Audacity helps with that. What was that Audacity?
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Audacity will help with that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: Okay, cool. So it's a free program.
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: It's a free program, is very simple.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: It will help for that. It would definitely help for
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: that to free. I use that a lot myself. You'll
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: take out all the background noise that that's in the back.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: What you'll do is basically copy a snippet of that
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: background noise and then it will go through the whole
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: entire track and take all of that out for you.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Awesome.
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: I'd love to We would love to connect with you afterwards.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: We can do that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: We can do that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, right now, what we've got is kaleidoscope that's
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: given to us for free from Wildlife Acoustics.
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: It's very advanced a little bit more advanced than what
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: I can figure out.
• 27:29
  Speaker 12: They kind of tailor everything towards bats those types of frequency,
• 27:34
  Speaker 12: so they've got there for that, so we have to
• 27:37
  Speaker 12: kind of go through and kind of tweak it a
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: little bit.
• 27:42
  Speaker 13: Yeah, excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm late to the party.
• 27:45
  Speaker 13: You've probably already discussed this. You'all are using game cameras.
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I'm not sure what you what you did here?
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: Would you would you like me to go through the
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: whole list of what we've done.
• 27:59
  Speaker 13: I was just curious about the game cameras, like in
• 28:02
  Speaker 13: terms of like monitoring them with your cell phone and
• 28:07
  Speaker 13: stuff like that.
• 28:08
  Speaker 12: We don't because the locations that we're in a lot
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: of it's in the valley down in Gorgeous so we
• 28:13
  Speaker 12: can't get cell service around here.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 28:15
  Speaker 12: What we've been finding the best for trail cams is
• 28:21
  Speaker 12: to find out what kind of movement we're getting around
• 28:23
  Speaker 12: the area.
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: Probably not going to get.
• 28:25
  Speaker 12: Anything Bigfoot related, but there have been a few things
• 28:28
  Speaker 12: that we have found that we couldn't understand what they were.
• 28:31
  Speaker 12: There were certain like markings in the ground through the leaves,
• 28:34
  Speaker 12: and we're like, what is creating that. It almost kind
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: of looked like something was being drugged through there. Set
• 28:41
  Speaker 12: up some cameras, went back and got the cameras, found
• 28:43
  Speaker 12: out wild turkey going through there, scratching through trying to
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: find out what's going because it wasn't hall. We knew
• 28:49
  Speaker 12: it wasn't that, But that's where we're finding the game
• 28:53
  Speaker 12: cams are working. The best for us is to find
• 28:55
  Speaker 12: out what kind of activity is going on through there,
• 28:57
  Speaker 12: so we can just kind of eliminate that from the process.
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: And I'd like to mention that I think that that's
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: super good because someone might find Oh, it's like we
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: keep putting this stuff out there, and we're now proving
• 29:14
  Speaker 11: because we've got it on camera that it was totally
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: just a normal thing like the wild turkeys.
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: But I think that having that kind of data.
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: Is super important for the cause in the community because
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: it's like, Okay, we now have photographic and video evidence
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: of something that we don't know what it is, and
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: then we film and find out what caused it. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: now you can kind of put those things together for
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: the community to say, Okay, if you're on your own
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: adventure and you see something that looks like this, here's
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: some documentation to back up that it could be a turkey.
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: Doesn't mean it's certain, you know, nothing's ever one hundred percent,
• 29:54
  Speaker 11: But I think finding a lot of stuff an explanation
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: to a lot of these things, even if it's not
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: what we all want it to be, is really good too,
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: because it helps a shortened somebody else's process trying to
• 30:09
  Speaker 11: you know, complete the same goal that we're all trying
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: to complete, if that makes sense.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: The regional variations would definitely make a difference, especially if
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: you're going bigfoot hunting and you're going to want to
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: eliminate these things quicker than in other cases, so you've
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: already got those things marked off to let that happen quicker.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: And mister Tray is also an arborist, so he kind
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of brings a special knowledge to investigations, so during the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: trip we relied on him. We came across some really
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: interesting tree structures and I have posted them on my page.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: They were off of trail on top of this mountain. Again,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: no service. I don't even know how to get there.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I was at Chryl's will, just kind of blindly trusting her,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and she leads us off trail and we get to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: these interesting structures. So it was really cool to have
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Trey there to kind of point out and say, Okay,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: this is a natural tree break or this is how
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: trees shut their leaves in order to survive. So I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: thought that was a really cool perspective that was brought
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to the investigation.
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: Yes, yes, and it doesn't have to be right now,
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: but I would love to go into detail about the
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: things that I saw because and the background on me,
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: Doug told you that he was fifty to fifty. I
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: am actually a non believer from my experience. My entire
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: career has been based out in the woods, and I've
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: just never had a classic experience or even anything that
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: I couldn't even explain. And being on the science side
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: of it with the arborous stuff, that's where I settle
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: on it. But I want it to be real, so
• 31:51
  Speaker 11: money where my mouth is. I'm getting out there, and
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: at some point I would really like to talk about
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: the things that I found with the group a couple
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: of weekends ago, because I did there was it was
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: honestly some some things that I couldn't explain, and I think,
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: you know it needs to be referenced for sure.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, go ahead.
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: Okay, Well, like Brookes said, we we had we had
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: to drive a little ways from the actual campsite and
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: then we went on a short hike and get to
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: this point and she had marked it. She had been
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: back there and it marked it, so we knew where
• 32:32
  Speaker 11: to turn left basically and then go off deep into
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: the woods to what was an apparent structure. And in
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: my opinion, what I saw about the structure, I couldn't
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: really apply any of my knowledge to what it was,
• 32:46
  Speaker 11: but it was definitely something that was not whether it
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: was a person or a bigfoot. It was something that
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: was intentionally done. But there was nothing there that I
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: could really kind of examine and explain. But what I
• 32:59
  Speaker 11: found the most interest was around this supposed structure was well, so,
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: first and foremost, let me describe the setting that we're
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: We're in a attractive land where all of the trees
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: were what in my industry you would call twelve to
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: eighteen inch trees, so that means they're all young. This
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: area had been logged at some point None of these
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: trees were very big. None of these trees had branches
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: that were more than twelve inches two feet at the best.
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: But what we were finding was there would be thirty
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: or forty foot long, approximately two to four inch branches
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: or trees stacked in between the unions of these younger
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: living trees, and they all pointed back to the same way.
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: We followed them into the woods, and we kept going,
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: and we kept going, and we would find them, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 11: it's like, Okay, these are branches or trees that are
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: way too long and thick in diameter to come from
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: the trees that they're stacked against.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: And where the unions were.
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: And when I say a union, I'm talking about a
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: tree that had grown off into two stems, So imagine
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: a v kind of like this. They would be wedged
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: in there and the living tree had grown around it
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: to an extent that I would approximate be at least
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: five years. So for five years that had been sitting
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: there like that, all pointing in the same direction everything
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: we looked at. We kept finding them and they all
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: went in the same place. And again, way too big,
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: two have come off, and they were dead too. They
• 34:56
  Speaker 11: were so dead I couldn't tell what species of tree
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: or branch they were, but again, way too big to
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: have come off what they were being wedged into or against.
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: And I found that super super interesting and it and
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: it didn't not know it I would I don't even
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: think I would say that it led back to the road.
• 35:16
  Speaker 11: It wasn't something where a hiker or a hunter could
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: have put there to guide him back to the road.
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: I don't honestly feel like it pointed to the road.
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: But it eventually it got to the point where if
• 35:30
  Speaker 11: it is pointing in this direction, if I walk over there,
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: I'm going to find another one and it'll point in
• 35:35
  Speaker 11: a direction and if I walk there, it will go there.
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: And I ended up following that until I couldn't find anymore.
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: And so I thought that was really really really interesting.
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: And again it all of these living trees had grown
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: around the dead branches to the to what I would
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: say is at least five years old minimum.
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: I mean they.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: Were esoteric Bigfoot architecture. Is that what I'm getting.
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: It definitely could be. It definitely could be. I mean,
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: it didn't have a rhyme or reason. Like I said,
• 36:18
  Speaker 11: it didn't have a rhyme or reason, Like, if I'm
• 36:20
  Speaker 11: a hunter and I'm gonna go hunt and I'm going
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: to put up these structures, I'm going to point back
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: to the road.
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: Well they didn't.
• 36:28
  Speaker 11: Or if I'm a hiker and i want to get
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: out of here, I'm going to point back to the road.
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: They didn't. They didn't even.
• 36:33
  Speaker 11: Point back in the direction of, to my knowledge, the
• 36:39
  Speaker 11: entrance to this area.
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: Does that make sense, like.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: They were mapping something completely different.
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah, So I did not feel like there was a
• 36:49
  Speaker 11: rhyme or reason for what a person would do with
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: these things, but they definitely, Like I said, if if
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: I saw one and I walked either against it or
• 37:00
  Speaker 11: towards it in whatever direction it was pointing, I would
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: find another one, and or other people would too. Because
• 37:06
  Speaker 11: it Brooke was there, she brought me to one, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 11: everybody was. We were just finding them, and it was
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: just we're all snaked through the woods going on some
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: path and eventually got to the end of it. So
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: never did find what you and I would consider a destination,
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: but it definitely meant something for whoever put those things there.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Portal theory, they were doing something with portals.
• 37:32
  Speaker 11: I have heard that, and I don't know a lot
• 37:34
  Speaker 11: about that yet, but I have heard that people think
• 37:39
  Speaker 11: that Bigfoot is possibly interdimensional. Maybe if you or somebody
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: else in the group knows more about that, I'd love
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: to hear it because I've heard it, but I don't know.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: That's what I was just talking about, that he might
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: have some type of portal or they have some type
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: of portal where they can just appear. They have some
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: kind of way to avoid human detection only when they
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: want to, they will allow that. There's actually a case
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I can't remember. I have to look it up. There
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: was this lady that actually had a relationship with a
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Bigfoot family when she was like three years old. It
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: used to be a video on YouTube about her, but
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: unfortunately it is no longer there. I actually talked about
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: this a couple of weeks ago in Nix's previous show. Uh,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: she she had a relationship and she was I think
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: she was a little little girl.
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: I can't remember the age. And uh, it was a
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: few of them.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: And they you know, communicated with her the best way
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: they could, of course, and they would tell her bring
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: her back to you know, where they stayed at and
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. It was the actually YouTube docu it
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: was a YouTube video of a documentary that she actually
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: had that was on there is it? The website is
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: still love about it. Uh, there's an article about it still,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: but where the link for the YouTube is no longer there.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I think that was Janie Carter.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Never heard of this. That sounds wild though.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Lots of people.
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I look it up.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's a weird story because she it just
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: it's it was well known in the nineties, I believe
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: it was, and it was very big and she talked
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: about it. I remember her being on different talk stations
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and they actually had did an
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: interview and all this other stuff, and she talked about
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it like actually like it was a real life thing
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: to her, like you like this was her second family basically.
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: And I'll bring up the article in a second. I'll
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: do it in the same.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Lots of people in the nineteen seventies report having gone
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: to these uh you know, camping facilities that their families
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: would return back to every year to actually interact with
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: and you know, like play with children Bigfoot. I've heard
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: like several different batches of stories of people who have
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: had these like childlike experiences with Bigfoot. It seems like
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: maybe they're more a part of our story that we
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: actually admit to ourselves, like maybe we've had interaction that
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: we don't fully remember. And that's kind of how they operate.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Because I noticed a lot of different memory of facts
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: that go on with people having interaction with Bigfoot, kind
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: of like UFOs too. Have you guys noticed that?
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you know it's so funny because I have
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: to bring up I have to bring my source up
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: is my own source from my website, rebirth atlehord dot com,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: because I actually wrote an article about it, and I
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: included her story within my article. So I'm bringing that
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: up right now. But it wasn't too long ago when
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: she had this full story. But yeah, I know exactly
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about. There's all this stuff seems to
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: sit here and come together one way or another, and
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: these stories come. Like I said, that's why I go
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: back to the ancient myths to see what these people
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: were talking about back then, because if it's always been there,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: then that means that in the beginning of our writing system,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: it was important for them to write this stuff down
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: because it was something that they couldn't explain, so they
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: had to write.
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: It down for future reference.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: I guess right, Well, it seems like there's an overlap
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: between what's sort of real and what is is like
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: between imagination and reality, like a lot of missing time
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: is associated with them as well. So I don't know
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: if that, if that's a common thing that could be
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: maybe tracked through other different instruments, because we're talking about
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: frequencies and vibrations, then maybe have an effect on people
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: in ways we don't fully understand.
• 41:31
  Speaker 11: You know, Doug has had a possible infra sound experience.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: That's what I want to hear about.
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
• 41:43
  Speaker 12: One night out camping in one of our research areas,
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: I was out there with one other person. We barbecued
• 41:49
  Speaker 12: that night, both had the exact same food, got didn't eating.
• 41:54
  Speaker 12: Half hour later, we're sitting there watching a movie on
• 41:57
  Speaker 12: the iPad and instantly I got hit. Was something that
• 42:01
  Speaker 12: I had to throw up. Jumped up, got maybe two
• 42:04
  Speaker 12: feet down, started throwing up my guts stop, felt fine,
• 42:09
  Speaker 12: wasn't sick, sat back down like that was kind of strange.
• 42:13
  Speaker 10: I don't know what that was all about.
• 42:14
  Speaker 12: Hadn't been drinking, ran out of alcohol the day before,
• 42:18
  Speaker 12: so I hadn't been drinking all night long, probably another
• 42:21
  Speaker 12: twelve or thirteen times. All I was doing was throwing
• 42:24
  Speaker 12: my guts up, just kept throwing up instantly, would come
• 42:27
  Speaker 12: back around, throw up again. The person that I was with,
• 42:30
  Speaker 12: I sleep in a tent because I want to be
• 42:31
  Speaker 12: able to hear everything that's going on around me. The
• 42:33
  Speaker 12: person that I was with was sleeping in her truck
• 42:36
  Speaker 12: and she's like, I nothing's bothering me. I feel fine.
• 42:40
  Speaker 12: Ate the same food that you're eating. It wasn't anything
• 42:42
  Speaker 12: that we.
• 42:42
  Speaker 10: Ate all night long. Just kept throwing Never had anything
• 42:46
  Speaker 10: like that happen before.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: I don't know what it was.
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: I'm not saying it was infrasound.
• 42:49
  Speaker 12: But we were in an area where there's been a
• 42:51
  Speaker 12: lot of activity, so.
• 42:54
  Speaker 10: Maybe I don't know. I'm not going to say it
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: was it.
• 42:59
  Speaker 12: For some saying that it was something extremely unusual and
• 43:02
  Speaker 12: I was throwing up all night long, instantly, just would
• 43:06
  Speaker 12: hit me. Felt fine, no stomach ache, no fever, no headache, nothing,
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: sitting there talking, next thing I know, to start throwing
• 43:14
  Speaker 12: up again.
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: Ye for some maybe don't.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Know ultra low frequency waves right there, I mean, there's
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: some sort of residence effect.
• 43:28
  Speaker 12: Could be I don't know, never had that happen before,
• 43:32
  Speaker 12: spent countless days out in the mountains, never had anything
• 43:37
  Speaker 12: like that happen before.
• 43:40
  Speaker 11: I wanted to be there was somebody else who experienced
• 43:45
  Speaker 11: other than that part, exactly the same thing as you did,
• 43:48
  Speaker 11: the same hike, stayed in the same place, ate the
• 43:52
  Speaker 11: same food. And then they're like, I don't know, and
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: then it's just you and you. And I've known Doug
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: for a ten decade now, over ten years at this point,
• 44:04
  Speaker 11: and he I can't even remember the last time he's
• 44:08
  Speaker 11: been sick, so I to add that into it. He's
• 44:11
  Speaker 11: not somebody that's just going to end up with food,
• 44:13
  Speaker 11: poison air being sick just from the.
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: Time that I'm done.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: That's shitty. At least it wasn't coming out. That's definitely shitty.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Something I didn't want to ask. Maybe Brook, I'll even
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: put you in that ass too, three of youse, because
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: it is something I was thinking about today.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: What would happen?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Like, all right, you're in the woods, You're turning a
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: corner and there is ten feet in front of you,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: there is no Now what do you do?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: You got your big foot?
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: Now what I can tell you that I'm going to
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: to do.
• 45:03
  Speaker 11: Everything I can, to the detriment of my own safety,
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: to physically get a hold of big Foot. I'm not
• 45:09
  Speaker 11: gonna try to kill him or her or the child
• 45:13
  Speaker 11: or whatever whatever version of it I run into, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 11: I will do everything in my power to somehow become
• 45:19
  Speaker 11: attached to that thing, ride it like it's a freaking
• 45:22
  Speaker 11: rodeo horse if I have to, and get my phone recording,
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: I'm going right in.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: I'm going right in.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: You want to do it because you can't tell from
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: his video, but he's like six four or five. He's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: a big guy, so he might be able to pull
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: that off.
• 45:39
  Speaker 11: I think I'm actually technically taller than the average height
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: of the skuncake. I think you're correct, But no, I
• 45:50
  Speaker 11: my people have asked me like, what do you have
• 45:52
  Speaker 11: a death wish? Or this, that and the other, And no,
• 45:55
  Speaker 11: nobody has a death wish, at least I don't or
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: anybody I know. But what I do for a being
• 46:00
  Speaker 11: an arborist puts me in a lot of adrenaline inducing,
• 46:04
  Speaker 11: potentially deadly scenarios that that you know obviously have all
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: gone well so far, and so I'm not when something
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: like that happens and you get an adrenaline dump. You know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: I'm one hundred feet in the air, I'm going to
• 46:20
  Speaker 11: take a thirty foot top and I'm going to get
• 46:22
  Speaker 11: rocked back and forth, and it's.
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: Raining and blah blah blah.
• 46:25
  Speaker 11: And I you know, as I've done that in my
• 46:29
  Speaker 11: entire adult life, and so when I get inserted into
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: an outside scenario where it would be particularly spooky or something.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: I'm like whatever.
• 46:40
  Speaker 11: So, yeah, I can tell you if I turned the
• 46:43
  Speaker 11: corner and saw a bigfoot, the first thing I'm going
• 46:46
  Speaker 11: to do is trying to get a hold of it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 11: And then the second thing I'll try to do is
• 46:50
  Speaker 11: get my phone recording or somebody else is hopefully there
• 46:54
  Speaker 11: with me and filming as well, and then they can
• 46:56
  Speaker 11: get to safety and get it out to everybody.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: But yeah, that would be Michael.
• 47:02
  Speaker 11: That would be the first thing I did.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: You gotta get you gotta get the throat right in
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: the middle of the pocket right there, Get right behind him,
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: see if you can knock him out.
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: Check it out.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: What about you, Douglas, I have no idea have you
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: any of you really thought of that?
• 47:22
  Speaker 10: Though?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: Like, what happens if this guy's like just chilling right
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: in front of you.
• 47:26
  Speaker 12: And the last few times that I've been out camping,
• 47:29
  Speaker 12: we were out in areas where it was extremely unusual
• 47:33
  Speaker 12: the activity was going on. I'd slept with my the
• 47:36
  Speaker 12: door on my tent completely open, hoping something would come up,
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: waiting to see if I could see something.
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: I don't know what I would do it ended up
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: happening walk up to me.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: It's like I was thinking about that myself today. I
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: was just like, cause I, you know, I have been
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: interested to go on these things, and I was like,
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: what do you actually do if you actually like? Was
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: it just a race to whoever could start snapping pictures?
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: But people are actually gonna get fucking and run when they
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: actually see them? People going to shit themselves? You know,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: is the thing going to come at you? I start
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: to wonder, like, if I actually come up on this motherfucker,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: what am I really getting done?
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: Like?
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: What am I going to accomplish? Unless I had a
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: sound was fucked up?
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Unless I'm tagging and begging that motherfucker, what am I
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: really doing?
• 48:19
  Speaker 13: I don't think you.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Really know until you're put into that situation. I think
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: people tend to have and I fight, fight or freeze.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: That's kind of what kicks in. And I know when
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I had my experience out of the woods and I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: saw what I saw, and I knew that I was
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: seeing something that I shouldn't be seeing and that seemingly
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be possible.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: I was scared.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: And I'll be the first person to tell you like,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I was genuinely really frightened in that moment, and I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: wanted to leave. I wanted to get out of that area.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I wanted to turn around, I wanted to go back.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: But then I had to like quickly recenter and refocus
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and go, Okay, this is what I'm here for, get
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: it together, and like let's keep pushing on as it.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: But then you have other people, for example, Brian king Sharp,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: who has a very similar encounter to what I have.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: He has a law enforcement background and he went charging
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: head first at this thing. So I think it depends
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: on the person on really what happens, but it is
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: it does force you to kind of think about it,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: because sometimes people have really negative encounters and it scares
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: them out of the woods for the rest of their life.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: So I think it's a case by case, in person
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: by person but it is good that you're giving it
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: forethought if you're going to go out there, because you
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: have to be ready that you know, you might see
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: exactly what you're looking for.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Rights He had even thought, I'd just be totally honest
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: Even if you've got like quality footage, people are still
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: going to say, that's fucking aim fake. So unless you
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: have the body, what do you still prove?
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but they still wouldn't believe it because they would
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: have to be seeing the body for themselves. It's always
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: going to be an argument against right. You could show
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: the body on television, they're gonna be like, oh, that's
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: not real.
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: You need to show a video show.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Like personally you could show I mean, you can at
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: least show some people that would actually change their minds,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I know, on TV, and once you hit social media
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: will still get questioned. Yep, driving around the motherfucking stropped
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: to the hood of my god, really fucking SIGNI I mean,
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: what is evidence though?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: I mean, what is that really?
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, is the ancient text enough evidence to go
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: out there and say for people to go out there
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: and research it. Going in the woods and hearing something
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: that's not familiar that you've been in the woods for
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: the last fifteen twenty years of your life that you
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: never heard. Is that evidence enough for you to go
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: out there and seek what would be a bigfoot? Is
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: could the idea that you have these folklore tours like
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: the skunk Akee, like we have different tales here in
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: Georgia about the different types of bigfoots and stuff like that.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, these old tales around the bonfire, you know,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: the campfire whatever. Is that enough evidence to go out
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: there and believe that there's a bigfoot? Absolutely? The evidence
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: is the curiosity. That's enough evidence, the curiosity because something
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: has put your mind to sit there and say, hey,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I have to go seek this information out now. The
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: evidence can determine whether it's fact and fiction.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Evidence can say, well, it's evident that it's fake, right
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: because of this that and the third, or evidence that
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: is evident that is real because of this, that and
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: the third. So, I mean the evidence that people are
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: looking for are different.
• 51:18
  Speaker 14: What's that, bro, You're talking about kind of a cover up?
• 51:23
  Speaker 14: Like I kind of feel that there's sort of a
• 51:25
  Speaker 14: cover up around this stuff and we're not getting the
• 51:27
  Speaker 14: full picture from the people who have been telling us
• 51:31
  Speaker 14: that we're crazy for you know, just describing what we
• 51:34
  Speaker 14: see in front of our faces. I mean, is not
• 51:38
  Speaker 14: essentially where we're going. I mean who's doing the cover up?
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: And for what?
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: That's what I want to know, and why?
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: For what?
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: The five w's is the questions that I always ask,
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: you know? And and why is the most important?
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: Why Why is it a cover what's the big deal?
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: We already know there's different animals out there, So what
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: is the difference with Bigfoot between them and us? And
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: if they do have the ability to avoid humans because
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: of their whatever amazing capabilities.
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: That they have, is that are we able to do that?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Because like I said, I go back to the ancient
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: text and I mean that's what they tell us.
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: It is what they said in the most simplest form.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Now we are in a you know, the more advanced
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: way of writing and systems and understandings and comprehension. Comprehension
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: plays a lot biggest part of all of it.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I have a theory as to the why it's covered up.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: And this is just my own personal theory that I
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: like thinking about. If you're familiar with Dave Politis, he's
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: done all of the Missing Forward one documentaries, and he
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: used to research with the late Scott Carpenter. He has
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: since passed away, but he researched in the Appalachian Mountains
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and they had a really good friendship and they did
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: this set of experiments to where they were able to
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: capture what they believe is Bigfoot. So he said the
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: best way to do this is that they loved McDonald's pancakes,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: and he kind of jokes about it in his presentation.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: And they would put it up in a tree about
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: ten twelve feet up and they would wrap tape around
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the tree with the sticky side out, leave it come back.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: And the way that they would do it was so
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: that way they would try to capture some of the
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: arm hair while they're reaching for the food. They were
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: able to obtain some samples that did have and this
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: is really so will come in with the technical side
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: of things. They had I guess the medulla or the
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: DNA section of the hair, so they were able to
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: send them off to gen Bank. And when the samples
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: were sent off to GenBank, it came back with no
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: known side on the father, but for the mother's side,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: it went all the way back two thousand years ago
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: to the Middle East, which leads to your theory that
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: they were potentially, you know, these supernatural beings of sort,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: maybe demigods, you know, ancient gods of old the giants.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: That leads into the Book of Enoch potentially having lending
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: some crudence there because Adam GenBank, with all of the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: samples it has, it had no known match on the
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: father's side. So that takes us back to Genesis six
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: where it talks about, you know, how the fallen angels
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: came down and bred with women. And I think that
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: that's really interesting, and I think the reason why maybe
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: they want to cover up Bigfoot is that it does
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: have these ancient roots and it leads to proof that
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: there is something supernatural happening, that we are somehow tied
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: to the heavens, and that you know, there's just all this,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: you know, other stuff happening besides us just hurling through
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: space with no purpose. So I think that that could
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: be a reason for the cover up.
• 54:48
  Speaker 13: The they hair samples on the DNA that usually what
• 54:52
  Speaker 13: you can test is m RNA because that is the
• 54:58
  Speaker 13: least degradable RNA has passed through the matrial line and
• 55:02
  Speaker 13: so you probably will not get parental DNA because you're
• 55:07
  Speaker 13: looking at mitochondrial DNA, and so that's probably why it
• 55:12
  Speaker 13: may have been that there wasn't as much parental DNA
• 55:17
  Speaker 13: available to tests that that that could just be a
• 55:21
  Speaker 13: reason why. But usually whenever you look, especially with crime scenes,
• 55:25
  Speaker 13: you know they'll find you know, hair DNA, mitochondrial donating.
• 55:28
  Speaker 13: You know for a fact, these these people could potentially
• 55:31
  Speaker 13: be in in the cohort of uh you know, related
• 55:35
  Speaker 13: to that hair denna, but it's within an actual sibling
• 55:39
  Speaker 13: or natural line, not so much paternal line. But I
• 55:44
  Speaker 13: had a I had a question with the sightings of
• 55:48
  Speaker 13: of bigfoot is and this question is more for Jeremy
• 55:51
  Speaker 13: the others. Is there a specific habitat that seems to
• 55:56
  Speaker 13: lend itself more to I guess where it occurs or
• 56:03
  Speaker 13: where most people see it? Like is it like with
• 56:06
  Speaker 13: with this place that y'all went? Was there old growth
• 56:08
  Speaker 13: forest in the area? Is it more so in that
• 56:12
  Speaker 13: area than other areas? Is the areas where bigfoot does appear?
• 56:17
  Speaker 13: Is it, you know, areas where there is a higher
• 56:19
  Speaker 13: biodiversity where more endangered species of plants would exist versus others.
• 56:26
  Speaker 13: And then is there a specific like I guess genus
• 56:33
  Speaker 13: or order of type of plant life in terms of biodiversity,
• 56:39
  Speaker 13: like more more moss or more like some sort of
• 56:44
  Speaker 13: lichen or anything like that that that would be more
• 56:46
  Speaker 13: prevalent in these areas. Like is there an association to
• 56:49
  Speaker 13: all these different sightings? Is there a specific I don't know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 13: set of variables that that keep popping up? And I'm
• 57:00
  Speaker 13: and on more about the habitat the biodiversity of the
• 57:02
  Speaker 13: habitat that the sitings were taking place.
• 57:07
  Speaker 11: From my personal opinion, you know, some of the things
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: that I did look for. And to answer your question
• 57:13
  Speaker 11: about the old growth where we were at, No, like
• 57:18
  Speaker 11: I mentioned, it looked like this area that we were
• 57:21
  Speaker 11: at had been logged at one point, but we had
• 57:23
  Speaker 11: a potential structure. Now I'm I'm just giving my opinion
• 57:28
  Speaker 11: about the structure that I saw. It didn't even look
• 57:32
  Speaker 11: big enough to house a bigfoot.
• 57:36
  Speaker 7: In my personal opinion.
• 57:38
  Speaker 11: What drew my attention more was those other stick structures
• 57:43
  Speaker 11: that I was talking about. But we also have here
• 57:46
  Speaker 11: in North Carolina, we have the Joyce Kilmer Forest that
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: is an unlogged old growth forest area. It's got its
• 57:54
  Speaker 11: a myriad of sightings as well.
• 58:00
  Speaker 13: Of those old worlds.
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: Yes, and then.
• 58:02
  Speaker 11: We've also got the UII Forest National Park near North Carolina.
• 58:07
  Speaker 11: It's also got its myriad of sidings. So I don't
• 58:11
  Speaker 11: necessarily think it really matters where at in the woods
• 58:16
  Speaker 11: that these things would want to live at. I mean
• 58:19
  Speaker 11: to me, it would kind of if I had to
• 58:21
  Speaker 11: logically think of it, it would come down to out do
• 58:23
  Speaker 11: I like this house better than I like this house
• 58:28
  Speaker 11: if it was you know, a person that was trying
• 58:30
  Speaker 11: to look for somewhere to live. But you know, some
• 58:36
  Speaker 11: of the things that I looked for being in an
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: area that I'm certain had been logged at least in
• 58:42
  Speaker 11: the last thirty years. Was I was looking for trees
• 58:48
  Speaker 11: where the tops of them had been planted upside down,
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: which would have come from a tree climber being halfway
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: up the tree and cutting it in such a way
• 58:57
  Speaker 11: that it speared the top of it into the ground.
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: I was looking for things to be stacked up in
• 59:03
  Speaker 11: a way and look around for skid steer marks or
• 59:08
  Speaker 11: you know, track home marks and things like that, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: claw marks on any kind of structure. Because I'm here
• 59:15
  Speaker 11: to tell you firsthand, I've sat around with my buddies
• 59:18
  Speaker 11: and we've got our twenty dollar bills on it. It's like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 11: there's no way you can climb that tree and cut
• 59:23
  Speaker 11: five chunks out of it and stack them perfectly next
• 59:25
  Speaker 11: to each other. Then you go up there and you
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: try to do that thing. So that was kind of
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: what I went into this looking at looking for was
• 59:35
  Speaker 11: common marks of a log a timber guy, or a
• 59:39
  Speaker 11: log or a tree climber being out there messing around essentially,
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: and I didn't see any of that. And then in
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: regards to, you know, the mosses and things like that,
• 59:51
  Speaker 11: that kind of just tends to lean in the direction
• 59:55
  Speaker 11: of being a more moist area. Another example of that
• 59:59
  Speaker 11: is when I or you're running around and you see
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 11: sycamore trees.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: They love water.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: So even if you're in the middle of the desert
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 11: and you see a sycamore tree, you know that its
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: roots are tapped into.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: A bunch of water. So I wouldn't necessarily.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 11: Lend that to be an indicator of where a bigfoot
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 11: will want to live, because again, these trees that like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 11: water can go deep into ground and find it where
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 11: it wouldn't be accessible to somebody that is thirsty for water.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 11: And can get out of a creek or anything, if
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 11: that makes sense. So, I currently don't think that anything
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: that I've seen in any of the diversities that exist
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 11: in the wilderness lend to a more suitable place than another.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: I think that would kind of lean more in the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 11: food department. Can we sustain ourselves here with food more
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: than anything else, Because it currently seems like wherever you're
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 11: at in the wilderness, it's got its sightings. It doesn't
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 11: seem to lend to the idea that there's a more
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 11: favorable environment than another in that regard.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be pretty interesting actually to check that stuff.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think if I started seeing.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: That popping up, well, give me a little bit more
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: greadings to my belief in it.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Oh No, that's because.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: I do think some of these things do have certain
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: reasons why he shows up, if he does exist. I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: do think some of the areas might have more capabilities
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: of paranormal effects.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Going on.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: That I guess at that point you have to start,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: like I guess, I'm looking at it as like I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: don't know, something that just comes into reality and leaves
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm not too st what to think
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: about Bigfoot at the the truth.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 11: This was before my involvement in the organization, But Douglas
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: met with somebody who's got a property here in Franklin
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 11: and they live I'm not sure where their house is
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: located in relation to this, but they're literally next to
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: a ridge line in a valley. And I'm going to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 11: kind of just give this over to Doug because he
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 11: met with the person. But they had like damage to property,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 11: things thrown at them, activity in the valley as opposed
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 11: to the ridge line. So you know, Doug, if you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 11: want to kind of explain that in better detail.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 10: That's pretty much all of it right there.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 12: And what's kind of coincidental about it is about fifteen
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 12: minutes ago he just text messaged me to find out
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 12: what's going on.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 10: He wants to meet up.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 12: What he wants us to do is to come out
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 12: there and bring some of our equipment so if we
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 12: can get any recordings from it. He is getting a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 12: lot of orbs up through the ridge line, and the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 12: Appalachian Trail kind of comes up through there, but they've
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 12: got orbs that are coming through. After they see the orbs,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 12: they start getting rocks thrown at their house. And they
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 12: on the backside, they've got a port that they'll go
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 12: out there. He's very spiritual into the Indian meditation with hothouses,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 12: and he will play certain types of spiritual music and
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 12: he's finding it when he's playing that type of music
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 12: is when they seem to get the most activity. They've
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 12: had the house side of the house, slap rocks thrown
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 12: on it, the howls in the middle of the night,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 12: and the orbs that are coming through. So we need
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 12: to get out there and see what we can.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: Start documenting large rocks too.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: I'd like to add, like things that are you know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 11: not pebbles, but large rocks, baseball or bigger.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I've been hearing a lot about this orbs
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: stuff in Bigfoot.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: That's uh, that's that's making me think that has something
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: to do with the area.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a it's a big thing. It's a big
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: thing because that's where a lot of it seems like that.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: The understanding is that every time Bigfoot is seen or nearby, uh,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: look for look in the sky because there would be
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: an orbs somewhere nearby. And the gentlemen that was talking
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: about the water earlier, you know, that's funny because I
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: always talk about I always say it, these gods, these
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: aliens do these these things with this technology or this
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: information or whatever it is. They're coming from the waters.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: It seems like the water is the most essential thing
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: for everything that happened on this planet.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: Just not just to you know, sustained.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Life, but you know where you know, where people are
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: mostly or where these individuals are mostly hiding at. They
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: might not be near it like that, but they're definitely
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: in traveling distance where they can go there and get
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: some and come back and go somewhere else, you know,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: just like they do in most you know, other countries.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: You know, the well is not you know, always in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: the in the in one area, it's a mile away.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's interesting even like in aspect as the light
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: goes to travel into your eyeball, the first thing it
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: hits is really a corner. And so even the birth
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: of the image in your eye and your head is
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: probably too a part of the reflections and ship side
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: your corny in the water, like you just looking at
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: the weird sense like that to throw it off.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: But.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 11: Hey, Brooke, did you guys ever go through the footage
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 11: that Marian got in her thermal camera because we did have.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 11: So it started off with people seeing a light that
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 11: we thought might have been eyes, but if you moved
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: it moved around, you could see that it was actually,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 11: you know, easily a headlighter at lantern. But that caused
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: h Brook and Marion to get their thermal camera out
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 11: and start looking and not what we thought we wanted
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 11: to look at, but off to the side, Uh, they
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 11: were able to see and an object at the time
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 11: we couldn't. It was a thermal camera, I'm pretty sure,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 11: and so you couldn't tell what it was initially.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 7: But Brooke, did you guys go through that footage yet?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she has or not, but I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: know when I got my hands on it and I
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: was able to see, I could see something moving. And
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: again to kind of just give some context as to
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: what we were looking at, this was behind our camp.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: There was a bridgelne that was kind of over to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: the left and where we had seen the light and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: where we were ultimately looking with the thermal was on
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: where there was no longer a ridge. It kind of
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: like led to the road and there were some rhododendrons
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: and that's the one kind of drawback I think from
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: thermal is you can't use it if you're in a
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: car because the temperature of the window will stop it.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: So same thing kind of with tree foliage. If you
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: have a lot of bushes and things, it kind of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: provides almost a camouflage for whatever animal is back there.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: But I could see something moving at the top of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: these rhododendron bushes, probably ten twelve feet up. I could
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: see the heat signature passing behind it. So I haven't
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: gotten any of the copies from that because we've been
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: running ever since, probably like we've been back. But I
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: will reach out and see if she can send over
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: that footage because I grabbed at one point and I
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: was like, I got to see.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 11: This, and unfortunately, because this was pretty late into the night,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 11: it was and we're like, we're like easily fifty feet
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 11: from the campfires. So when you know Mary and who
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 11: saw it first pointed in whatever direction as to what
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 11: she was seeing. I'm tall and I thought she was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 11: pointing over here. So she hands it to me, and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 11: I personally couldn't find anything, and there were some others
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 11: that also couldn't see anything as well. But I think
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 11: broke you said, you saw it, Marian saw it. I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 11: think there were a couple of three others that were
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 11: able to actually see something and see the same thing.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: But unfortunately, even though I tried, I just was, like
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 11: I said, it was dark. I'm looking, but I'm probably
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 11: looking in the wrong direction. I can't tell exactly where
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 11: I'm just to look, but I know that the camera
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 11: was recording, and that's I was. I was curious to
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 11: see that footager and see what you guys thought from it.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't wait to hear you know, if you've
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: got any sort of audio encounters that cooberates the data
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: that we heard. And this is a little bit more
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: on the spiritual side, but there was a woman who
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I would consider a sensitive who was on the trip
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: with us, and I won't say her name on here,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: but I thank you guys both know what I'm talking about.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: She did reach out to me after the camp out
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: with some really great information, but she did confirm that
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: when she asked her spirit guides that she said that
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: we were being watched by a big foot on that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: camp out.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 11: Oh yeah, well you you were, you were there with yeah, right, exactly.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: If he doesn't shut the fuck up, I want to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: go to sleep.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 11: But you had the dowsing rods and you also had
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 11: an app. I'm not I never did get and if
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 11: you told me I didn't, I didn't hear. But what
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 11: that app was, do you have you the dowsing rods
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 11: and the app that you were doing things with and
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 11: you got a lot from that as well?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm I did, and it was actually so get this.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: So I was running it's called Ghost Too, and it's
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: kind of like an on the Ghost spirit Box and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: we had used it out on the trail and everything,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: and so we were around the campfire and this one
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: guy he was like, oh, run it, run it while
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: we're sitting here, because everybody wanted to kind of debunk it,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: to kind of prove like that it's just full of
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: crap and that the results aren't real. Because I was
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: getting responses on the trail right from the dowsing Rods
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: and the spirit Box in tandem. There were several times
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I asked questions. I was getting responses from both, and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: so I was like running it, and he's right. It
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: was late, I was going to head to bed. I'm
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: looking at the time and I'm like, oh gosh, I've
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: got to go to bed. We have a really long
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: drive where it was our last night there, and I'm
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: walking and I forgot that I still had it up
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: on my phone and I'm holding my phone and all
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm almost to my tent and it
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: goes come inside and I was like, oh hello, So
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I turned around. I did I went back to the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: fire and I was like, okay, this guys. I was like,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. And then that's when I went to
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: go back and we saw the lights and then the
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: other stuff happened. And she even said about that experience
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: that her spirit guides told her that it wasn't something
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: to scare me, that they were like comforting me and
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: telling me to come and say that I was okay,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: that I was safe and protected. So she said, like
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: not to take it as a bad thing, that it
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: was actually like a positive.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Being as well. Yeah, so yeah, go ahead, go ahehead.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 13: Has anyone looked at the antipodal positioning of some of
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 13: these sightings, what.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Does that mean?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 13: Like, for instance, go ahead, I.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: Was gonna say that is that it's new to me.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 13: No, So like say, for instance, you're located in Roswell
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 13: New Mexico, and you adhere to the the Earth is
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 13: a globe. If you were to put a pin right
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 13: through Roswell, New Mexico, where would the pin come out
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 13: on the other side of the globe?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 13: And so some there is a theory saying that there
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 13: that suggests that if there is activity like dissociation or
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 13: anti magnetic or some sort of something would lead to
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 13: opening a portal, that it would have the equal an
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 13: opposite effect. So if something's going like, for instance, something's
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 13: going on insern, what's the opposite end of cern? And
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 13: is something happening at that same moment that Stern is
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 13: firing up that's collider? Is something happening on the other
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 13: side of the globe at that same.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 9: Time, something like Ley lines you're almost.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 13: Talking about more kind of but more of like a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 13: direct opposite effect, like a magnet.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: I gotcha, magnet the opposite of what's happening at one place?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 9: What's the opposite effect? Basically?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 13: I got you, Like, if it's intaking, is it out
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 13: taking somewhere else?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 11: That would be something that I have a hard time
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 11: comprehending without probably a long in depth conversation about it,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 11: because in the geometry of doing trees and rigging and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 11: tree felling and things like that. The point at an
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 11: angle and degree at which you start things when you're dealing,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 11: when you're you know, starting it here. But the object
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 11: that we're manipulating is so large it can change unbelievably
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 11: with just ten feet in difference of height, you know,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 11: in the case of a tree felling. So that's what
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 11: my knowledge is and where my mind goes to. So
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 11: I have not heard of what you're talking about, but
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 11: I am definitely interested in so. And the reason I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 11: bring that up is because you say, put a pin
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 11: in rosbelt, New Mexico, where is it going to come
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 11: out on the other side? I'm in my head is
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 11: immediately like, well, was it a tend of the degree to.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: The left or the right or upside down or you
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 7: know what I mean?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 13: So that matters, And it matters also the positioning of
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 13: the spin and the rotation and whether you're what is
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 13: it the equinoxes and stuff like that, all that matters.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 11: Yeah, So my mind goes straight to the trees and
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 11: how that would affect it, and and it is a
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 11: big effect when it comes trees. So I would I
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 11: would definitely be interested to know more about exactly what
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 11: you're talking about.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 7: Because it's not something I've heard of yet.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, again, that would even have to do with like,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: I do think some of these locations might be important
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: something to that effect. Uh, is there any other questions?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: Anybody else said?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: No, what do you have a question? Go for it?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: So earlier we established that, you know, if you turn
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: the corner and there's bigfoot, what are you going to do?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: We established that you're gonna need the body right to
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: prove the existence of it.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 9: Who do you report that to?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: Like? Do we have someone that deals with that? Like
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: And a lot of people are relying on like when
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: they need to know if something's true or not, like UFOs,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: they need the government to come out and say, oh
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: this is real, Like who would deal? How would that
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: go down? How do you think that that would play out?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: I tell you, put that on TikTok and everybody will
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: start coming at your location and you ain't about reporting
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: to nobody, Like yo, I got I got big foot
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: right here, y'all's location. I'm dropping it in. I'll be
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: here for the next three and a half hours. I
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: guarantee them. Helicopters would be there before any motherfucking on
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: the on the streets.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Will.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 11: I think it would go over so bad in every way,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 11: shape and form.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Government.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 11: Yeah, every government organization from every country, all the n
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 11: g os that that are funded.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 9: If the Russians or the Chinese are here, that'll be
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 9: right there.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: What they should too.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 11: They're gonna reveal all of their military secret technology right
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 11: then and there, because they're gonna show up way faster
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 11: than what we currently know to be talking.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, laid out all on the table right right there.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: I just let it all on the table, all from
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: one TikTok, right from one TikTok.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: You know, TikTok hasn't even token as it got yet
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: showing up Oh yeah, yeah, before.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: You get your first heart that's already above with the
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: high brings on.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 11: I don't I don't spend a lot of time thinking
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 11: about who do I go to or what would I do?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 11: Because here's the thing. The internet's the Internet, and you
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 11: can say anything, and it's got a global reach at
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 11: this point in modern technology. So of course, if we
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 11: find a bigfoot and we get it studied and we
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 11: get it confirmed that's bigfoot, there's going to be the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 11: equal and opposite amount of people that are like, that's
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 11: a government conspiracy, we're covering this up and that and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 11: yeehaw whatever. So I think those people are always going
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 11: to exist, and I think it's just going to come
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 11: down to just acknowledge that it's a population and getting
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 11: a real number on it. Because as far as we know,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 11: if a bigfoot is found live, it is immediately going
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 11: to be classified as an endangered species and become protected
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 11: until they discover if it's in decline or not in decline.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 11: Then you know it's going to go from there. So
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 11: there's going to be so much that even happens, and then.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 7: You know, I don't know, I don't even know where
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 7: it would go from there.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 11: But yeah, if just one bigfoot is found initially, even
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 11: if there's five of them, they're going to be like,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 11: oh my god, this is a brand new thing. It's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 11: automatically an endangered species. So then they're going to spend
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 11: the next you know, however long it takes figuring out
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 11: if it is the only five that exists or if
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 11: there's a healthy, normal population, and then that's gonna you know,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 11: change the narrative or directive of how everything's going to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 11: go from there, but the government will definitely be involved
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 11: in the entire process and probably the logging probably the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 11: logging industry too.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 13: If I have to be honest with you saying that,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 13: so many Hollywood movies come to mind. If that were me,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 13: I wouldn't tell anybody. I'd let them go live their
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 13: life how they need to be.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 9: But that's yo.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: You say that, No, I that's that.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 13: But I mean it's one of those things. It's like, man,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 13: everybody's out here trying to survive. I don't know, just
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 13: based on Hollywood movies what the government does to things
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 13: that are rare.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you just put something in my head.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: You remember that movie Village about those people who lived
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: in the woods, and that's yeah, So.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: Just think.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: I wonder if if you know, because you know that's
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: federal land, do they have that set for because of Bigfoot?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: Because they don't want people to be on there, you
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like people can't cross.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: Those those those those places.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: You go in there, that's a federal crime. That's a
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: felony just for accidentally going into it.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 13: I believe somebody posted a I don't know, like a
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 13: factoid or something that about what is it like ninety
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 13: percent of all National forests were sacred Native American places,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 13: So what happened? I'm sure that they were sacred for
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 13: a reason, and so if they came under the purview
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 13: of the National Park System, I mean that almost seems
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 13: I don't know, just very coincidental.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 9: To me, and a lot of abductions.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Are you familiar with Teddy Roosevelt and the conspiracy
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: that lies there with Bigfoot and the National Park?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 13: Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's kind of what I was like.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's why I brought up.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as I think last time Sarah was on, she
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: knew the name of it, and you you rotted it
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: off with Vyant thor we keep coming back to that.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: Oh god, that guy with the six fingers right, probably yeah,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: to get an extra finger too.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: But the Eisenhower Tree where they could abduct a certain.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: Amount of the GREYATA treaty there it is, Yeah, and
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: in exchange for technology, Yeah, nothing, go ahead.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: I was just saying that the technology came from the seas.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 11: One thing I did want to ask is has anybody
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 11: in here had a class A sighting or like, has
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 11: anybody had any I want to know what got y'all
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 11: interested in it because for me, it's it's super super simple.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 11: I'm the house arborist for the for the organization, and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 11: Doug and I are are best friends, and he me
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 11: to come along and just apply my knowledge to it.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 11: And I had never even in my life given Bigfoot
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 11: or other cryptids thought. But you know, as as time
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 11: has gone on since I've been involved, I've become more interested.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 11: But what got everybody else involved in this?
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: I guess for me, I mean just growing up, I've
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: had always believed in Bigfoot and the paranormal.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: I guess for me, I just I find it interesting.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: I do think there's something up with it, and I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: for me, again, I always push on it's the area,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: but I do think it's probably like a side effect
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: to certain things going on. So that's why I like
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: look at it more from like, I guess different angles.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: Anybody else I'll go next?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 13: Two reasons. Well, one, I love all things wildlife and
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 13: all things outside. But one two things that sparked my
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 13: interest was we were out trapped be key deer on
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 13: the outer islands of the Florida Keys, where there is
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 13: no you know, kind of urbanization or anything like that.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 13: Mosquitoes are probably the main population out there, and we
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 13: set up trail cameras to kind of follow, you know,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 13: where some of these old paths are whatever, so we
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 13: can drop someone and we're doing health assessment on the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 13: outer islands of the where the key dear were kind
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 13: of swimming back and forth, and on one of the
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 13: trail cameras there was something that walked right across. That's
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 13: why I was asking about the trail cameras. And we
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 13: had them set to motion right because it would be
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 13: a while before we went back out there to check
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 13: that the sim card and you know, check the batteries
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 13: and all that stuff. So we had it on motion
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 13: and so it detected the motion and then it and
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 13: we had it set to video whenever it detected motion,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 13: and so it filmed something kind of inspecting the dropnet
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 13: because we're using drop nets, and our dropnets were about
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 13: seven eight feet tall. I knew was as tall as
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 13: the drop net, and so it kind of it looked
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 13: like it looked like a person wearing a gilly suit
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 13: bottom line and freak me out, because sometimes we were
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 13: out there late at night or all night waiting for
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 13: deer to come under the net. Drop, you know, and
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 13: do our little health assessment and leave, and I'm thinking
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 13: this thing is out here with us, you know, like
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 13: what what just happened? And so that that sparked my
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 13: curiosity first and foremost. And then the second one was
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 13: I was sitting in a meeting and we were talking
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 13: about the Ivory build woodpecker, and somebody made a joke
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 13: and said, there are there's more evidence of Bigfoot than
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 13: there is of the Ivory build woodpecker. Why aren't we
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 13: spending more money on that? And I thought that was
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 13: a legitimate question. And so those two things.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, that's a definitely legitimate question.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: Okay, a gilly suit because I have even a Yeah,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: I entertained a lot of ideas about Bigfoot, and that's
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: been one of them. That's military and gilly suits.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: What color was it? Was it a color camp.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 13: It so it was dark, and I would say that
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 13: it was like brown green. That's why I said maybe
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 13: it was a gilly suit. Now again, it's to me
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 13: the way that it looked. I would have to look
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 13: for it because I think I have them saved. It's
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 13: just so old, the one, the height and the thickness
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 13: of the height, and it just it seemed very ominous,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 13: just very not not normal safien, I guess you could say,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 13: and if somebody was out there, you know, because there's
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 13: a lot of traffic going through there from Cuba and
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 13: all that other stuff that we were halfway expecting something
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 13: like that, but something like that just seemed kind of
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 13: just out of the ordinary. And it's middle of summer,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 13: it's so damn hot there. Why are you even wearing that?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 10: Now?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 13: I could see protecting from mosquitoes and all that other stuff, absolutely,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 13: but something like that was just Yeah, it definitely gave
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 13: us pomps.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Just from the height. It's interesting. Yeah, nice. What about you, Burt.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Oh? I would like to think I had a Class
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: A setting. I'm on the fence about what I classified
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: as whether I classified as Bigfoot or something else in
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: the paranormal world, but I'm kind of leaning more towards Bigfoot.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: And that happened coming up on a year now in
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: November and the Panhandle of Florida. But my basic interest
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: of bigfoot started with my own grandmother having a sighting
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: here in Florida turned out to be in the Panhandle.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: I found out that piece of information recently back in
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: the late seventies early eighties, and yeah, so that kind
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: of got me into did in the topic. And then
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: I'm one of those people like Tyrone Soela Libra over there.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I need to know the why and I need to
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of things, and I love looking
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: into things more and not taking things at face value
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, applying critical thinking to it. So then
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I went down the rabbit hole and that you guys
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: at North Carolina Big.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 9: Food camp Out.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 11: I'm huge on the why as well. I completely understand
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 11: the need for that. I you know, when it comes
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 11: to let's just use my treservice. For example, I'm not
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 11: just some guy running around with a chainsaw. If you're
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 11: gonna have me do something, I could explain it down
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 11: to a peer reviewed study on why this is the
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 11: right call, because I have to know that.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 7: I can't.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 11: I don't like to just blindly make a decision. I
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 11: want to know what I'm getting into and why I'm
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 11: getting into it. And so I completely get that.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: So for me, it was just I've always I was
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: always interested in Bigfoot from the from the video, the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: famous video, and then because of ancient history, I always
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: wanted to know, you know, what the facts were, and
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: then me being in the woods.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 9: I grew up in the country. I'm from Georgia, so
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 9: we used to.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: Play, you know, in the woods all the time, you know,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: and I'm familiar with, you know, the noises, you know,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: the coyotes, you know different types of animals and stuff
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: like that, and you know what to look for and
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: all this other stuff. So there were times when I
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: would hear things that just didn't never make sense. I
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: know what a hawk sounds like from being in the woods.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: I go out fishing sometimes, Like I leave at my
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: house at two o'clock in the morning. You got to
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: go into backwoods, and you sit in the backwoods from
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: you know, three till you know till sunrising. You're hearing stuff,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: You're seeing movement, You're wondering what is going on. It's
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: really quiet a lot. I don't really understand that when
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: you're out there in nature by yourself without any electricity,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: I mean even lights.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 9: Lights create a sort of a noise. It creates that
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 9: that noise that.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: You was talking about where I was mentioning about audacity,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: that background noise. You don't necessarily hear it per se,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: but it does intervene. That's why you can have your
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: volume on your television a certain volume during the day,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: and then at night it has to be somewhere different
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: because it's sound different to you that when you're in nature, it's.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: All of nature acoustics.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: It's nothing out there intervening with you, electronic wise.
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  Speaker 9: Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I turn off my phone and everything, and
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: it's different out there. And like I said, I would
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: hear things, but I never got to see anything. And
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: then I you know, I got into the ancient text.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean the Chinese talk about it, that Japanese talk
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: about it. I mean, every individual talks about these types
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: of what we would describe as a bigfoot. And that's
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: why I ask, you know, different species of different bigfoots,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: you know, racist or even kind of sort as would
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: be away because the depictions would be different. You know,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: some of the depictions would be horns. But if you
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: look at horns in the in the sense of symbolism,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: it was something that was powerful, something that was a godlike,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: something that was speaking through a different entity or something
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: it had some kind of it was just a special
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: individual with horns and that that's when it.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 9: Later on it turned into the evil thing with the
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 9: devil of course, and.
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  Speaker 3: I was, you know, I've always read about these different
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  Speaker 3: species that we've had. Like I said, I've done discussion
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: with Michael Kramer. I've read different books about different species
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: of humans, and they say, what is the misconnection will
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: be maybe just maybe out of coincidence, maybe it's Bigfoot.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's the missing connection between us. We don't know
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: for sure because we don't have a DNA genetic makeup,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: and when that time comes, we will. But I also
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: think about all the shit that happened back in the
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: day when they found just like when Lisa were talking
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: to Brooke was talking about the Native American grounds, their
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: bones that these museums found of these what they call
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: giants and so on, is for uh, they taking them
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: and hiding them in museums.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 9: Could these be the bigfoots? We don't know.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: We don't know what these We don't know what an
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: animal or species look like from their skeleton bones. That's
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: an artist's depiction of what we think it looks like.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: We don't know for sure because we don't have the skin,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: we don't have the organs, we don't have the defer,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: we don't have anything we're just going off of what
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: somebody said they seem you know, we don't know if
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: it's a genetic mutation or whatnot. You know, somebody seeing
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: something different from a you know, a human perspective that
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: was lost on the island of something and seeing somebody
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: with a tumor on the side of their face, they
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: would be like, that's they wouldn't understand that, so they
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: would depict it as such. So that's where for me
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: it just came into the interest of knowing the why,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: the who, what, when, why is?
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 9: And where is? You know, where did they come from?
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 7: Where?
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: And all this other stuff. You know, why is it
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: so important for me? Why is it important for me?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: Some people have asked me that, And it's because of
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: the simple fact that, you know, we've always been told
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: that we can do things that is not normally in
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: the realm of human needs or human nature, and if
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: we can tap to our inner abilities, and Bigfoot is
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: the missing link in that. I would like to know that, right,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: I would. I mean, I don't know about other people,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: but I would. So it just started from a little kid,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: you know, watching what was that show with Unsolved Mysteries
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: when they had the famous video on there. That's what
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: that's actually where I've seen it from. So yeah, that's
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: that's where it started from me.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: I remember that episode, and I'm gonna play the skeptic here.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: It's a it's a complicated thing because I don't think
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: that everyone on every continent has a Bigfoot story of
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: some sort for no reason. I mean, there's obviously something
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 6: to it, and I don't have any experience with bigfoot
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 6: or anything like that, but I do know about the
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: association between bigfoot and orbs, and I do have a
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: situation with an orb, and I know that Tyrone does
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 6: as well. So I mean, I just I think Bigfoot
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: it's doing something with portals, y'all. And then when my
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: logical mind hears that, I'm just like, nah, So I'm
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna play the hopeful skeptic. I want to
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 6: believe and I think that there's something going on here,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 6: but I'm not quite sure what. But the why is
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: gonna eat me alive.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 11: So yep, So you subscribe to the idea that Bigfoot
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 11: is Well, when you say portals, do you think that
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 11: they're just here but they can use portals or do
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 11: you think that they're interdimensional things, because I've heard that.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 11: I've heard people subscribe to that theory before.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: Specifically, my current thinking is that it has something to
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: do with like the telyric currents that Ricardo talks about
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: a lot. Ricardo comes on the show quite a bit
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 6: and he talks about te luric currents, which all of ore,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: all these sacred sites, Stonehenge and the Pyramids and everything,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 6: they're all on this grid, in the lay lines and
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: the teluric currents, and it all works together and somehow
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: a portal occurs or something like that. I don't know
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: how it works, but I think that it's all connected
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: in some way. That's that's my thinking behind it.
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  Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you some Jeremy, when you
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: say portal, what is your idea of a portal? What
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: would be your description of a portal or usage of
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: a portal?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 11: Well, I guess there's there's the two sides of it,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 11: would be interdimensional or just here on Earth where you've
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: got a I don't know, an object in your hand
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 11: that you can press a button and it's going to
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: get me from Franklin, North Carolina all the way to
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 11: your front door. So I can make it for dinner
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 11: on or am I going to go from this dimension
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 11: to another dimension from however that technology comes up. So
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 11: for me, at portal could could could be anything. But
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: if you're if you're going from one place to another
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 11: and defying all known methods of travel to get there,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 11: I would consider that a portal basically because.
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  Speaker 9: One of my other expertise is the Bible. I studied
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 9: the Bible like is my hand back of my hand?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's a couple of verses in here that actually
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: makes me wonder and this is why I asked you
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: about a portal. So Luke, chapter twenty four, thirty thirty one,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: thirty through thirty one, it says at Amos when he
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: breaks bread, their eyes were open and then he vanished
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: from their sight.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 9: That's something that would be a bigfoot.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: Then you have Genesis eighteen to nineteen three men interpreted
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: as angels of course, or the Lord himself and two
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: angels compaired to Abraham eat with him and then go
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: to Sodom. Their arrival and departure seems supernatural. That's another one,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: And and there's and there's there's a lot of them.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: You got the apocrypha that talks about the angel Raphael
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: travels disguise as a man, then later reveals hisself as
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: an angelic identity. I mean, with that angelic angelic identity,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 3: could it be a bigfoot that we know of today?
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 9: Who knows? I don't know, you know, you never know.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 9: But my point is that it's the ancient text.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: Even the Bible talks about these things where you see
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: something in one moment and then boom, it's gone. You know,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: we we use the word bigfoot because that's our modern
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: interpretation of what we see that's something other than us,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: something that's covered in hair.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 9: Well, what is is it really hair?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: Could it be what you described as what a gilly
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: suit that would be described as a hair literally interpretation
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: and depictions and you know, drawing something out that a
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: gilly suit would look like a hairy person, but it's
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: not hair.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 11: All well just uh And I would like to say,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 11: I don't know if you can see it on camera,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 11: but there's Luke twenty three thirty four tattooed on my hand.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 11: So that I'm a Christian as well. And you know,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 11: one thing that I find really really interesting is when
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 11: it comes to imaging of the space planets or stars
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 11: or whatever, they see, and it comes real dang close
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 11: to what they call biblically accurate angels, which in the
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 11: Bible angels are not the pretty white robe wings and
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 11: long wispy hair that the people hang up on their
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 11: wall and everything they're terrifying to look at. And so yes,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 11: I completely understand what you're saying and you're getting to
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 11: do in that regard.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 9: And that background noise you got with them can sound.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 10: That too.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Early.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: Uh, I guess we could probably wrap it up right
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 4: around now, guys online, Was there anything else that you,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: guys Jeremy Douglas wanted to head or say or anything
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 4: before we wrap it up?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Tray Tray has probably got something to say.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 11: Well, I just uh for for the people watching or
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 11: listening center for Wilderness Cryptostudies dot org. If you've got
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 11: a sighting, get on there. We don't care where you're from,
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 11: where you're at, and get on there. Put whatever you can.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 11: We keep all of that anonymous.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: And if you are also somebody that has a property
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 11: where you would like for where you have activity and
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 11: would like for us to install equipment there to you know,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 11: kind of collect some data and further the research, get
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 11: a hold of us through the website. Yeah, a big
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 11: key thing. There is anything you got, even if it's
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 11: tiny or if it's huge, whatever, it'll be anonymous. We
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 11: want to know about it. Get a hold of us,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 11: and if you want us on your property the collect data,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 11: we'll do it.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 7: Get a hold of us, let us know where you're at.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 11: But other than that, thank you very much Nick for
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 11: hosting us and letting us be here. Thank you for
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 11: doctor Stamy getting us all connected together. And it's a
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 11: pleasure to meet all of you guys.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: That was awesome. Thank you, and guys get that event too.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 7: Say that again.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: You guys are going to be at that event and
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Franklin right correct, yes, so yeah, people listening they will
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: be there as well, so I check it out. They'll
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: be there. I'll be there, Doctor John Stamy will be there,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: and a bunch.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: Of other So yeah, thank you both. I really appreciate
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: you guys coming on. Of course, Douglas, is there anything that
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: you wanted to add?
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 10: The PR guy he's.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: Was it gonna leave you?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 7: No?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 10: No, I'm good.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: All right, before we wrap it up, I let everybody
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: plug this stuff again real quick. Lisa, we missed you
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: at the beginning, so come back to you what is
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: going on?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Will?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 13: Thank you for making it, thank you, thank you for
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 13: inviting me. I really really love this. I'm really regretting
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 13: that I was late to hear all of the equipment lists,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 13: but I thought that was a great presentation. Jeremy Douglas.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 13: I look forward to hearing more of your findings and
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 13: thank you very much for sharing all the youve done
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 13: for the efforts. In terms of me, you can find
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 13: me on Twitter Solese Lisa for a cult research intat to.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: Work checks out listen. Thank you very much for making it, Lisa.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it, and we got Brooke what is going on?
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 7: Brooke?
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me from being here. This is
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: so crazy how the universe works out, and it's such
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: a small world. So great seeing you guys again and
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: getting to relive some of those tales and hear it
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: from you know, your perspective as well. So thank you
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: again for having me and this was a great conversation.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: You can find me wherever you get your podcasts at
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Dark Florida Podcast on Instagram at Dark Florida Podcast.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, yeah, And that was awesome how this
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: worked out like that. It was crazy when you were like, yeah,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 4: what was it? What the fuck? A small world makes sense?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: Though you were in North Carolina recently, so real quick
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: before before I let you plug, Tyrone, I just do
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: want to remind people that, yes, October fourth, at the
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: big Foot Comic Con the Factory at ten twenty four
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 4: Georgia Road in Franklin, North Carolina. These guys will be
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: there and I will be there as well. In Doctor
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: John Steamy and the Eighteenth we will be at the
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: Forts Topical Lodge fifty six in Florida, and Brook will
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: be speaking and the Occult Rejects will have a book
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: as well. So yes, definitely gonna check that stuff out.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: And Tyrone, please let everybody know what's going on with you.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: All right, once again, thank you for having me. I
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. You gentlemen were awesome. I love the information.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: Everything you can find on me is on my website
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: Rebirth at the word dot com. And I do talk
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: about Bigfoot in my book, Journey through the Origins of
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: History and a little relationship with his relationship with Thank
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: you to so I appreciate it.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh, thank you dude. I appreciate you coming
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: on with.
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  Speaker 11: That Nick, I would like to add for anybody that's traveling,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 11: for anybody that's traveling to the event that's going to
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 11: use the GPS, it will not come up as d factory.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 11: It's the fund factory. Otherwise you will it won't even
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 11: it won't even pop up. So the fun Factory Franklin,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 11: North Carolina is what is what is needed to be
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 11: Googled or apps or whatever you use them.
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  Speaker 4: Best of thank you. I'm have to change that then,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: all right, Sarah, what is all o?
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: Way?
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  Speaker 6: This has been so much fun. Like I said, I
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 6: want to believe, and this has given me so many
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 6: different points to consider to try and you know, piece
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 6: this puzzle together and I always like to be able
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: to do that with other like minded people. And I
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: just want to thank you for sharing. I think you
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 6: did a great job. And as far as me, you
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: can find me at x Sahara Cosmos. Also, you can
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: follow our podcast page on ex Universe Unveiled and we
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: also have YouTube Spotify all that good stuff. And I
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 6: also want to plug the Institute for Natural Philosophy dot org.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: You can go there, check out our website, read our
• 1:42:51
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• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, thank you very much.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: And uh yeah, headlet's giant h you send them some
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: stories and I'll send you some stickers.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: There you go. We gotta be left.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, that was everybody right, I got everybody guess
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: all right, thank you.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it. That all you just made it
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: on tonight. That was awesome.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 4: It was great getting to meet you guys before I
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: actually physically meet you. So and you guys got some
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: really some stuff to tell, so I really appreciate it.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: This is a really good episode on Bigfoot.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it. And uh yeah, it wasn't live, so
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: I have to thank those people or anything. So yeah,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: that's the end of another pull reachect. Until the next one,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: everybody be well, you know,