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IT CAME FROM SCREAMBOX: Ichi the Killer · WASD and Beyond

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Yes, it's a blast. Everyone actually enjoyed this
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movie. This week was my pick and this
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week I picked Ichi the Killer. Ichi the Killer is a Japanese
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manga that was turned into a film by Takashi Mikkei.
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It's a crime horror gang yakuza flick that is just balls to the
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wall. Like if you read manga or if you
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watch anime. This is literally that on
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screen. It is absurdity, it is brutal,
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it is hypersexual in some of the most wrong ways possible, but it
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all adds to the story. Without giving too much away
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here, this film was released in 2001 and then subsequently re
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released multiple times in, you know, upscaled formats and what
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have you. I own 3 copies of this film on
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DVD. Really.
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Yeah. I love this movie.
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I love this movie. Which what?
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What do you have? What copies do you have?
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I'd have to go look. I haven't like checked my DVDs
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in quite a while, but I, I know I have 3 because I'd go to like
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disc replay and be like, oh, here's this version or here's
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that. There's like a collector's
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version, I think there's just standard format, and then
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there's like like an updated format.
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I think I have one of the Japanese DVDs that could only be
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played in a Japanese DVD player. Oh, really?
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It's like region locked or some shit.
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I have to look. I'll I'll get pictures though.
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This movie is a movie that I first saw.
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Fuck dude, I couldn't have been more than thirteen years old
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when I first saw this film. 13 and 14, and it's because I was a
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bored teenager who just didn't go to high school and would just
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watch movies. That's what I did.
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I watched the movies, listen to music and played video games.
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How did you how did you stumble into this though?
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Was it another rental or another one from Big Ed's shelf?
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Big Ed was definitely one of the people that I've seen watch
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these types of movies, so I kind of was getting curious there.
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But Ichi the Killer, oddly enough, was a movie that I
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downloaded on Limewire. Wow.
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Yeah, so I downloaded this film before.
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My time, I think. I was just, I don't even think I
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was trying to find this movie out because back when I was that
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young, YouTube wasn't really like this at all where you could
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just type in top 10 best Japanese horror movies.
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Like you had to like dig and go through like forums and like it
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was just before Reddit and shit really.
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Dedicated horror forms. The before time.
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The long, long ago. Yeah, the long spooky ghost.
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I probably honestly also learned about this in Fangoria because I
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read the magazine since I was that young.
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Like I've always, you know, gone to Barnes and Noble with my
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grandma and pick up a issue of Fangoria.
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She didn't know she was getting me.
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She didn't really fucking even care what she was getting me at
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that point. But that's how I stumbled upon
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Ichi the Killer. And upon my first watch, I
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immediately wanted to get the manga once I looked up like what
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this actually is. You can now easily get the manga
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on Amazon. You can get the three books that
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are on Amazon. And yeah, Ichi the Killer is one
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of those movies I've never, ever forgotten and I've always
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watched at least once a year. And I love this fucking film.
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What did you guys think, Noah? Let's start with Noah because
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this is Noah's first time seeing Ichi the Killer.
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Yeah, it was. It was interesting when it
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started out, it kind of felt more just like a normal sort of
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like crime, gang action horror kind of thing.
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But the more more like I let it play out, the more and more it
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it, it watches like like an anime, like the way that the
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music lingers in the background, even like the type of music that
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you're hearing is very much anime inspired.
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Like if you if you close your eyes, you might think that you
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were, that's what you're watching that there's some
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insane effects in this. There's some really good
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effects. There's some maybe not so good
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effects, but we had a good time all enjoying those effects if
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the good ones and the not so good ones.
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It's kind of odd because usually a movie like this, you feel like
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it's going to commit to doing everything practically or doing
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everything digitally. But there's a pretty healthy mix
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of the two in this, and I think they're blended pretty well.
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The story is very interesting. There's a lot of stuff with the
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characters that I definitely want to get into some theories
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about, you know, what is going on with these characters.
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And it seems to be that it's a lot of it is based on maybe
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things that happened to them in the past.
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And there's a lot of like psychological aspects to it and
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sort of motivations that are one way.
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But then they they sort of flip and there's a little game of cat
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and mouse going on where it seems like there's multiple
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gangs all encountering these same problems.
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And then eventually, finally it brings them together and you get
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this big kind of like every like everything that you've seen
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comes together and there's a very satisfying conclusion.
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And it's still feels left open-ended with the ending.
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Like there could be more of this.
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I don't. Did they make?
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Was there a sequel for this? No, it was a one and done.
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It was a one and done I believe. Have you have you read the the
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manga that's based off of? I have not read the manga and I
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believe there is also an anime and I think it was like a one
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shot. If if I'm thinking correctly, I
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believe it was like like a like a one time thing or like a
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here's here's the movie episode thing that they did they would
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do for it. But I've not read the manga.
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I've always wanted it. But my my biggest thing is I
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like to collect things in like hardcover.
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Yeah, and manga does not really ever come in hardcover.
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Well they do in collector's editions and I don't know if
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there's a bus or omnibuses, but like I don't know if that exists
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for this and I may need to look deeper into it.
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I'm sure it does. There is a collector's edition
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type thing where it's like the shell, because Ichi's suit is
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very interesting. It's like a turtle, Like he's
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like a turtle almost like he's, you know, I mean, it's very
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funny how that works and plays out.
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But we will get more into all of those specificities in a moment.
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Mr. Alex, I know you've seen this fucking movie.
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I think this is like my third time.
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It hasn't been many times. OK, it's so crazy to me because
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I feel like somewhat of an outsider because we watch these
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movies and I'm like, how could anybody have ever heard of this?
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Like I just, it's such a, it's such a fascinating thing.
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That's why I always want to ask you guys, like if you've seen
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it, how like how did you find this?
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Like how did you stumble onto this?
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Word of mouth again. Internet.
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Fangoria magazine's forms. I mean when you become like a
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dumb whore nerd you go looking for the most fucked up shit you
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can find because you become desensitized to everything.
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Yeah, this movie's definitely like, brutal.
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But honestly, given some of the other things we've covered on
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this on this show before it, it seemed kind of like, I think the
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fact that you had that heightened sense of reality,
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like where there is somewhat of a fantasy like element to this,
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where there is just wacky, unexplainable things.
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It's sort of softens the real world stuff.
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But they're tackling some heavy, like psychological issues in
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this movie. They This movie tackles rape, it
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tackles sadomasochism, it tackles BDSM, it tackles the
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yakuza, which like the aquisa, which like I am not touching
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with a 10 foot pole. That's not my business, but
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it's. Quite it's on stuff like PTSD.
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PTSD. Trauma.
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Yeah, with being how? How like yeah is is.
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I that it's interesting, that's some autism.
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There, right? Yeah.
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I think what it is, yeah, I think what it is is that he
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suffered trauma as a kid and it warped his sense of reality
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later on. And maybe there's like, my
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theory would be that you have spoilers.
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I guess we'll. Yeah, we're.
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In 2001, dude. Yeah, well, you know, these
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things are obscure and not maybe more people than I think, but
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not a lot of people would have maybe seen this.
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But my theory is that he's some, he's some kind of neurodivergent
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type, right? Something's going on upstairs
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that he is. Yeah, something like that.
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He clearly he does not process things normally because he's got
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like split personalities. Yes.
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And it's, it was really interesting.
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I was like, Oh my God, like they're getting they like
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they're getting into the psychology of what potential
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trauma as a kid and not even having something happen to you,
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but just something that he saw changed the way his brain, like
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the way he understood certain social cues.
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So it is something that Ichi did see, but what what we are
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showing throughout the movie with the rape is not something
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Ichi was there for. That was fed into Ichi's brain
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to hypnotize him to just do Gigi's shit.
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Ichi killed his parents and then in his brain, from what I'm,
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from what I remember, I know we just watched it, but I'm there's
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a lot where I was able to just get up and go get a glass of
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water cause I've seen it. Yeah, I believe Ichi kills his
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parents and that's what pretty much like fucking starts to tick
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in the brain, right? Like that is one of the
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traumatic things. But the rape never truly he's
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never a part of. Really.
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Like there's a there's a whole like Gigi is like a hypnotist
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almost type thing. Or he's like feeding this like
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false narrative into the mind of those that he can.
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Like he literally says like I am literally controlling all of
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you. Like you are doing this because
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of me, which is also psychological right there too.
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So yeah, no, I think I but I do think, like, given the traumas
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that are explored in this, whether it be sexual, whether it
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be violence, whether it be parental, like there are a lot
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of those like things where it's like, yeah, that that can warp
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your mind and then you don't get to be you.
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I mean, fuck, dude. The first time you really see
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Ichi, he is masturbating while a woman's being beaten.
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And that is the title card of the movie.
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It's his come. And it's like boom Ichi.
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But like, that is the tone of the film though.
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It's literally the tone of the movie.
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Yeah, it's the whole thing. It's like this guy witnessed
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like a sexual assault and it warped his brain of what that
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is. And that's like a real thing.
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Like real. Like even big celebrities like
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have talked about that. And like, I mean, this is it's
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more of a new age thing. But like growing up on on the
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Internet, you see things in it, you know, when you're young and
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it changes the way that you think about stuff.
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So it's interesting that they were able to really work that
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into what is otherwise like a gang crime movie.
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Yeah, 'cause when you look at it through that lens, like there is
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horror elements, but it's definitely more of like AI don't
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even know what you would. Would you really call it like an
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action thriller kind? Of it's like a psychological
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violent actions, the suspense with a bit of horror because
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like there's a whole we are afraid of Ichi.
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Like, everyone, well, the whole time, the boogie the whole time,
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yeah, there's this, this, this crime syndicate.
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And they're like, they're coming across all these, like,
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horrifying scenes, like something gruesome happened.
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And then like they it seems like the whole time they know that
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someone called Ichi is doing it, but they have no idea who that
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could be. So I think the cleanup crew's
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Gigi's boys, if I'm not mistaken, I'd have to, I'd have
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to go through the synopsis all over again.
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I'd really have to go through it.
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But yeah, there's like a whole clean up crew that goes to the
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the scene and they're like, man, Ichi just went crazy today.
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Like God damn, he's inhuman, right?
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Like they're all, they're just like, so like, dude, like our
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job sucks tonight because of Ichi.
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And it's, it's, it's really crazy to see like the, the cat
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and mouse thing between Ichi and Kaki Kakihara is so interesting
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to me because all Kakihara wants ultimately is to be beaten.
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He like he wants to die. The dude is a sadomasochist.
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He wants to be hurt and he wants to die.
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And no one can give him that. That's why he's in search.
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Like it it starts out with the search for his boss, but then it
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very quickly is like no, I want if he could do this, I want him
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to do this to me. Yeah.
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And it's, it's, it's such an awesome duality of characters.
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Ichi's just like, I don't want to do this.
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Yes, I do want to do this. I don't want to do this.
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And then presented it to his face.
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You know, like there's that scene there on the film where
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he's just like, so you're telling me you don't want this,
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but you do want this. So that means you think you
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don't want me, but you do want me to.
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And there's that whole, like, inner monologue that he's saying
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out loud and she's like, what the fuck is happening?
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He's like, wait a minute. Yeah, I this.
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Sucks. Actually, I don't I've I've made
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a miscalculation here. I mean, dude, it's it's right
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there in front of us too during the abuse scene.
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The second time that woman is being abused by that man.
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There's a lot more you figure out about this woman there
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though, too. And you're like, oh, that's
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fucking weird. And then he go, he busts in the
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dude's picking on him because he's again, the bullying is also
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a big thing theme of this movie. And boom fucking kills him.
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And then he just boom. Just kills.
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How does he kill him? How does he kill him, Nick?
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Oh, he kills that motherfucker. Talk about that for a second.
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In half see. He unseemed him.
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Yes, it was very fun. It's a very fun kill.
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My problem with it is this not really a problem.
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I this was made in the day where CGI was finally like we can make
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things with computers, like we could just do that.
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I mean, it was, I mean, it was kind of further along, but like
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that type of CGI where it's like, all right, we it's.
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Like hopped into a real. Yeah.
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You know, you know, you know, it's like, all right, here we
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are. It's it's it's bad CGI.
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It's not good CGI. You could, you know, it stands
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out. But given the film it is given
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the context, given what this is, it works.
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You, you laugh and you're like, God, that's an awesome kill.
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It's never wow, that was shit. It was it, Everybody is like,
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that's goofy, but that was a good kill.
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You know what I mean? So it it plays, it knows its
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strengths and it plays on them very strongly, especially with
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the CGI mixed with the practical effects, because when the
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practical kills come in, you're like, oh, that's and they saved
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a lot of like the practical effects for the gnarlier shit.
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But they really do here, which let's talk about that.
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Let's talk about Kakihara or Kakihara.
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Yeah, he's. Man, what a Batty.
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They kick him out of the out of the crime syndicate because he's
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too violent. He's literally too violent.
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They're like, this is not how we're like when they're
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torturing a guy, they do the they're like suspending him with
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big hooks in his back and he's like poking these like giant
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pins that he carries around through his face.
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And the the crime bosses come in.
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They're like, what are you doing?
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Like this is This is insane. Yeah, well, it gets worse from
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there though, Alex. What doesn't it get worse from
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there? I mean, yeah.
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Yeah. You fucking the the burning oil
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on the back? Yeah, it's while being
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suspended. I don't know.
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I don't know what would be worse, the burning oil or the
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needle through the bottom of the fucking throat or the jaw.
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I. I think, honestly, I think the
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oil would be worse, yeah. I I think the needle through the
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bottom is a come and go thing. Once that needle's removed,
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yeah, it's going to suck, but it's just like a piercing.
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Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, no 3°. Burn, yeah.
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I mean, usually you don't get a piercing in the bottom of your
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chin. Though, right?
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But once it's out, it's like the pressure of that needle's
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probably gone. Yeah.
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Yeah, but like it's. It's like a small pin, yeah.
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That burning oil is sticking. Oh yeah, and it's peeling as it
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sticks. And it's like it's, it's like
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vegetable oil. Yeah, so he's making shrimp.
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Yeah, he was making. A little tempura.
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You know, but like, even that shit like that, see that?
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That's not CGI. That was all practical from what
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we can tell. And it's like, Oh my God, how
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the fuck in 2001 did you get away with that?
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Like how did you do that? Made that one.
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A lot, a lot, a lot of Latex. That effect reminded me of in.
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I think it's terrifier too with the bleach.
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Oh yeah. Just like that.
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It's just like the, the, it's, it's one of the most brutal
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things that like, you can even imagine.
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Yeah, yeah, just the, the, the like, the idea, 'cause
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everybody's been there. We've all accidentally touched
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water that's too hot. Like if you're boiling water and
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then some of it splashes out and touches you, it fucking sucks.
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And like when you you, you know that feeling, you know, like you
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can relate to that. And then imagining it being like
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poured all over you is is like a whole other.
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Thing I've I've actually had boiling water poured on my back
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as a kid. Yeah, yeah, I've gotten I, I
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when I used to work at the grocery store, I, I got like a
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hot oil from the deep fryer. It.
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Feels worse. And just like a tiny little bit
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of it. And like I tell you, I was out
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for the day. I was like, I'm going home.
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Yeah. But it's oil sticks on like
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water. Yeah.
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It's what I'm saying. Just brutal.
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There's so much oil would be worse.
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I think, I think their best effects are the practical ones
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that happen like that are slow and subtle, like all the big
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actions like the throat explosions and stuff are all
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like, they're good, like practical effects.
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But I think the best ones are the things like the the burning
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oil. Like you can see the guy's hair,
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like, falling out where the oil is.
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Yeah. And like when he's like slowly
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pushing the pin through the guy, it's just, it's brutal.
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And it's Kakihara's tongue. Scene Yeah yeah, he what again?
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Maybe explain to me again why he did that?
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Because I. That was penance for his
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actions. So like they were like, dude,
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you like you're too fucking far. You're bullshit.
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Like you're out and he's like, OK, time out.
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I will. He's like alternatively.
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Alternatively, I'll give you something of mine then fine,
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fine eye for an eye. So he goes, I would rather not
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taste anything or something along those lines.
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Like I'll give you something like whatever a taste of it cuts
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his tongue out and goes, here you go.
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There's my flesh. Give it to him pound for pound.
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But like, that is not a measured.
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Like it's, it's, it's not measured.
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Kakihara's being a smart ass. He he should have just left.
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He should have just been like, OK, I'm leaving now.
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I think the biggest thing was the point he's making is I don't
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care. Like that was Kakihara.
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He was like, I don't care. Like here, yeah, it hurts.
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Here you go. And it's.
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Really. Kind of, Yeah.
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Well, I kind of think there may be some kind of supernatural
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element to Kakihara. I don't know if there is or
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isn't. The way I was looking at is like
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this guy like like an anime. The world seems very real, but
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then there's this one like wacky element, like maybe sit, like
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maybe somebody just has a big unhinging Pennywise mouth.
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Well. You know, like Kakihara.
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Like Kakihara does, or he is clearly less vulnerable to pain.
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Like when he's being like beaten up, he doesn't seem to react.
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No, because he wants. He invites the pain in.
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And the thing with Kakihara is you can see that he's like a top
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dog in these syndicates, but that he's done some of the worst
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shit because he does have the Chelsea Grin.
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He does have the scars. So that's more penance that he's
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given upon himself. The Chelsea Grin.
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He either, I don't remember if he did does that or if that gets
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done to him. There's just a lot there.
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There's a lot to unpack. I mean, dude, it's like a the
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coolest shit is not knowing because a, it is a different
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culture, right? So you don't know exactly how,
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like, us as Americans don't exactly know how these things
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are actually played out because there seems to be a bit of
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reality here as well. You know, with all of the
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cartoonish themes and things of that nature, there is like a
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real vibe here. So yeah, I know each of the
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killer is one of those movies, man.
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You talk about the end for a second before.
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We run. Absolutely.
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Yeah, go. For it, what did you guys think
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of the ending? I was.
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Oh, like that the whole last ending.
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All right, Yeah. Sorry, no.
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What? What?
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Did you think of it? I've always enjoyed that ending.
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What that what it what it does is really subvert your
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expectations because you're expecting this giant for like
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action filled brawl like you. That is like the end.
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That is the anticipation this movie builds.
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It's like, OK, Kaki hara versus Ichi.
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You're like, all right, cool. You get fuck all of that.
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And I loved it. I loved it.
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Not only that, it's all the shit that happens prior to, but I'm
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talking about the rooftop scene. I love that shit.
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You know, we won't give too. Like I don't want to give too
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much away here because like, if you haven't seen Ichi the
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killer, you should go see it. But the that blatant, we aren't
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going to give you what you want. And this is what is happening.
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I loved it. And like where is Ichi now?
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Right, 'cause at the end of the movie, like, all you see is
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like, you know, in the crowd there is that guy.
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And it's like, I, I, I still to this day, I haven't looked up
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who that was because it's not Ichi.
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It's to my knowledge it's not Ichi.
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It's not. I think I thought it was.
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Didn't look like them, didn't look like Ichi.
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Unless, unless this is, you know, I was going to say unless
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it's like a flash word, but it's not because Gigi's hanging in
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the tree. So which is like spoiler
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whatever, go see the movie. I won't ruin certain things
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though. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what
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you think, Alex. It's like, like Nick said, it's
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like they build you up. Just put it this way.
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They edge you the entire fucking movie and then a big old fuck
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you the the ending is very good. Yeah.
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Something heinous happens, which doesn't happen in a lot of
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movies. I'm not going to say what
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happens. They don't show it, but it's
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implied. You know?
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What the fuck happened? Yeah.
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And just I do, I do want to see the fight.
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I do. I do want to see it.
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Yeah. And we'll never.
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We never will ever. Which hurts a little bit, but.
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There's no way this film ever gets remade.
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No, No fucking way. And I I, I think they.
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Should never want it. I would never want it, just like
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how I would never want a Sleepaway Camp remake.
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Unless we're not talking about that.
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Unless Takashi Mikkei stood up and went.
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I have more to say. Yeah.
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That is. If he wanted to make a follow
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up, that would be OK, but I wouldn't want this to be made.
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I think it's so interesting in the end.
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I think the topics that they're tackling would not work today.
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Like you, it just it just wouldn't fly.
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But my thought on the ending is it's kind of open-ended.
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And it's like, you know, it's, it's kind of a thing that you,
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we've seen before where someone is like consumed by this idea
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and like maybe that warped their perspective on how even a thing
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happened right then and there. And you get a lot of that, like
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what you were saying, like subverting your expectation of
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what's going to happen. And I think this like it the way
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it ends, it kind of leaves more questions.
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And I'm I'm pretty sure that's Ichi in the crowd.
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Or if it's not, it's maybe it's supposed to be or.
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But it doesn't look like him. Or maybe like, if it's not,
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maybe that kid, yeah, maybe that kid is witnessing the event
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that's going to turn him into the next Ichi.
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That's why I have a feeling that's why they had the kid
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around, because now the kid, and I think Ichi knows that because
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when he sees that the kid saw everything, he like, freaks out
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and breaks down. But the yeah.
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Well, what happened on the rooftop there?
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There is no there is no kid now, though.
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Yeah. So it's unless like that.
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Was a lot. Of.
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It's it's sort of unclear, but I I think it works that way.
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But did that all actually happen too?
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Yeah. That we don't, we don't know.
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That's that's the thing. That's.
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What you don't have to believe, Yes.
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Because the mark is gone. When was it?
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Gigi finds him at the ground. The mark is gone on his head.
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Yeah, well, he took. Kakihara does say the human body
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has a way of reviving itself. Yeah, but not that fast.
29:23
No, but unless. Kakarot, Wolverine.
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Because they also quickly go to shots of Kakihara in that room
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he's in just sitting in that little, you know, looks like
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like bathhouse thing. And he's just sitting there.
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So like, I mean, does does Gigi realize that Kakihara's not
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dead? Can he not die?
29:44
There's a lot. And I'm sure, honestly, I'm sure
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there is. I'm sure there's explanations.
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And we sound like idiots. I would love to see the.
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Manga, honestly. Does huh?
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Yeah, it's all I guarantee. I guarantee it's all the manga.
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Yeah. So the manga has.
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There are 10. There are 10 issues of this.
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Are those 10 issues this story the same story?
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I don't. I.
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I know Kakihara's in it because Kakihara is the cover of issue 3
30:20
or or book 3. West beyond@gmail.com.
30:24
Yeah, dude, you guys please let us know because there's so much
30:27
here. There's just there's a lot here
30:29
that I would love to dive into with Ichi the killer.
30:32
Like we don't have to be done talk because there's we barely
30:34
touch the surface like of this movie.
30:37
But I I would hope that our like, if you stuck around and
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you haven't watched, I think you would still, you would still
30:43
enjoy it. It's bit rough at times, but if
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you're into these horror movies, I think it's nothing that you're
30:49
not prepared for. But it's definitely a good
30:52
watch. It's really interesting
30:55
psychological stuff that they tackle, like what's real?
30:58
What what is your perception of something?
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Really good effects, really good time.
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Yeah, no. Ichi the Killer is one of those
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movies I'll never forget watching when I was a teenager.
31:09
I've watched it, like I said, every year since then, my wife
31:15
has watched this film with me. She didn't like it, but she
31:18
watched it. It's it's a good fun time and
31:22
you could tell that it was a good fun time because people in
31:25
the discord who were watching us prepare for this episode.
31:30
We're having a good time with this movie as well.
31:32
It was like 9 of us. Everyone stuck around.
31:36
Yeah. And hardly said anything.
31:38
I mean, a couple times there's some banter, but that happens.
31:40
But most of the time, people actually just watched it.
31:44
They just watched it and it was awesome to see people who I know
31:48
were sitting there going, what the fuck?
31:51
Like Evan was like, God damn, this movie is fucked.
31:55
But like he enjoyed it. He said it was a good movie
31:57
right before we started recording.
31:58
So oh, man. All right, let's give it our
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let's give it our stars here, boys.
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Let's start with again, Noah. It's your first time seeing it.
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What do you give this film? I gave a nine out of 10.
32:09
It was awesome. We do fives buddy.
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Oh, what we're doing fives? We've been doing this time.
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Let's go. We've been doing it the whole
32:17
time and I forgot. All right.
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Yeah. 4 Four out of five, then. Very good.
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I like that. I like that.
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Yeah, I just had total brain fart and I just immediately went
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for 9 out of 10 go. But no, I get 4 out of five.
32:29
It was it was it was really, really good.
32:31
I had a really good time. I think there was some
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information that I missed because it is subtitled.
32:38
There's no English version of it, although there is some
32:42
English in it. But I but this is a lot going
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on. Really interesting, really
32:48
interesting topics, really well acted, really great effects.
32:55
Yeah, 4 out of five. Really good.
32:58
Fuck yeah, Mr. Alex. I'll give it a three out of
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five. Damn.
33:05
Three out of five. It's, it's a good flick.
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I just, it's, I don't know, it's it drags on too much.
33:14
For me. But it is a good flick.
33:18
The acting is really good, especially for the time period.
33:25
Other than that, like I don't really know.
33:28
It's if you could watch Dead Girl, you can.
33:32
Watch this. Say that.
33:35
Oh yeah. Ichi the killer gets a 4.5 from
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me. This is a movie that I
33:43
absolutely adore but the CGI at times takes me out right like
33:47
and I and I. I'm in agreeance of the CGI, but
33:51
I do think that had this been made a little bit later, the CGI
33:58
could have been just that much more crisp.
34:00
Or we could just, they could just UN practical.
34:02
But there's certain scenes that you can't really do that in this
34:05
movie. I mean, fuck, we didn't even
34:06
talk about what Ichi's weapons are.
34:10
That's for the if you're listening, go watch and figure
34:13
out like how Ichi does what he does.
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It is truly such a great imagination that the the author,
34:20
the mangaka had and that Takashi Miki put into this film.
34:26
It's truly impressive. This movie is hyper violence.
34:31
It's hypersexual. It's balls to the wall.
34:34
It's it, it makes you think constantly trying to decipher
34:38
what's happening between these characters and what the motives
34:40
are. It is a bloodbath there.
34:44
The the sound design, the camera work is just chef's kiss.
34:49
There are so many shots in this film.
34:50
You're like, Oh my God, I wouldn't even thought to do
34:52
that. Like it's, it's incredible.
34:55
It's a great fucking movie. I think you and everybody should
34:58
experience this movie. If you love the horror medium,
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if you love the action, like hyper violent medium that is
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filmed like this is a movie for you.
35:06
So yeah. Yeah, for 100%.
35:09
All right, makes me excited 'cause they're putting idea for
35:13
this new for the new Ghost of Yotai game.
35:17
There is a like a camera effect filter that you can put over
35:21
that is inspired by this director.
35:24
Takashi Emike, which like he's done a lot of samurai films, so
35:27
too. Yeah, to to know that they're
35:29
doing that based off this director, like that's, that's
35:33
wild. He just, he does crazy shit,
35:35
dude. Takashi Emike.
35:37
So you'll have to look into his filmography after this.
35:39
You can be like, Oh my God, yeah, it's wild.
35:42
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