Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 307: Infection (SG-A 5.17)
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- 0:25Speaker 1: Get into gates, just do it. This is episode three
- 0:29Speaker 1: hundred and seven. Mitch and Maddie here talking some sg
- 0:33Speaker 1: A that'd be Atlantis. We're talking about.
- 0:41Speaker 2: BA. I was like, I wanna be that guy that's
- 0:43Speaker 2: like I.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I just thought. I'm like, because you know, I figured
- 0:46Speaker 1: you knew how to turn your mic on. But I
- 0:48Speaker 1: guess you're being in the studio You're like, I don't
- 0:49Speaker 1: want to press anything. Just in case I thought it
- 0:52Speaker 1: was gonna be. That's one of those episodes where you're
- 0:53Speaker 1: here going I'm looking to say anything. I don't want
- 0:55Speaker 1: to say anything.
- 0:56Speaker 2: I thought you'd that's three of me already.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Well, sometimes the chatter off the mic you are a
- 1:03Speaker 1: little bit you know, trek heavy.
- 1:05Speaker 2: But no to maybe maybe maybe yeah maybe going into
- 1:08Speaker 2: universal it'll be cumulative. It won't be it won't be
- 1:11Speaker 2: three references per episode. It would be every third reference
- 1:15Speaker 2: I go, I go into a ten minute.
- 1:16Speaker 1: To be a bit heavy, is it? Yeah?
- 1:18Speaker 2: I've had no idea. I haven't seen it in forever,
- 1:20Speaker 2: which is this episode? I this could be the lost
- 1:24Speaker 2: episode of Atlanta's I had another one zero memory zero
- 1:28Speaker 2: like even in like other episodes, like I'm like, I
- 1:30Speaker 2: have a little.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Bit of memory. This one interesting.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Absolutely no memory this episode interesting.
- 1:36Speaker 1: We are talking about in fashion the final disc of SG.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a weird feeling final disc.
- 1:44Speaker 1: In for those of us watching on physical media, as
- 1:47Speaker 1: your bloody well should be, I sent you a a
- 1:51Speaker 1: Black Friday deal a couple of weeks back. SG was
- 1:56Speaker 1: SG one, S G A and s GU B Lou
- 2:00Speaker 1: Ray all combined box sets four hundred and thirty dollars.
- 2:03Speaker 1: You get it for three hundred and ten, I think
- 2:05Speaker 1: on DVD. Yeah, but I'm like cool baby if I
- 2:09Speaker 1: if I had expendable cash.
- 2:11Speaker 2: See, as of next year, that's not gonna be a
- 2:13Speaker 2: complete franchise, said anymore. Sure the year after everyone's saying
- 2:17Speaker 2: have you heard everyone saying twenty twenty eight?
- 2:20Speaker 1: Where are they getting this right?
- 2:21Speaker 2: They're just making stuff up?
- 2:23Speaker 1: I mean three. The only reason I even said twenty
- 2:27Speaker 1: twenty seven is because, well, we're right at the end
- 2:30Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. Twenty twenty six seems way too early.
- 2:33Speaker 1: But where over two years until when they could still
- 2:37Speaker 1: squeeze it into twenty twenty seven, And if they've already
- 2:39Speaker 1: been developing the idea, yeah for eighteen months, I mean
- 2:42Speaker 1: who knows what they've put together, Like they could have
- 2:45Speaker 1: essentially cast this thing, you know in eighteen. I mean,
- 2:48Speaker 1: like you'd said very smartly on that episode back then
- 2:52Speaker 1: when we first broke the news was they're probably about
- 2:54Speaker 1: to start casting and that was why they had to
- 2:56Speaker 1: tell us all. But it's like, I don't know, man,
- 3:00Speaker 1: the eight seems lunacy to me.
- 3:01Speaker 2: When CV show. And also June or July twenty twenty
- 3:04Speaker 2: seven is the thirtieth anniversary of STUI.
- 3:07Speaker 1: If you're not going to hit that, why are you bothering?
- 3:10Speaker 1: Why bother? Come on and gearro We trust well. Infection
- 3:13Speaker 1: Episode seventeen of twenty My God of SGA fourth to
- 3:19Speaker 1: last episode, Atlantis restives a distress signal from a hive
- 3:23Speaker 1: ship and discovers that all the Raith on board have
- 3:26Speaker 1: placed themselves into stasis, the victims of a lethal affliction.
- 3:32Speaker 1: What do you think? What? What do you think? Rough? Okay,
- 3:35Speaker 1: very short, No, I mean every every episode of Starget
- 3:40Speaker 1: is the missing episode of Stargate to me because they're
- 3:42Speaker 1: all new. But yeah, I know, I didn't mind this episode,
- 3:45Speaker 1: like you know, it's it's funny in hindsights, well not
- 3:49Speaker 1: in hindsight, I guess what would have been hindsight, but
- 3:52Speaker 1: watching this now knowing that it's the fourth last episode,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and I don't know how things wrap up or almost
- 3:58Speaker 1: get wrapped up with this show that you know, it's
- 4:02Speaker 1: kind of just like an adventure of the week yet
- 4:04Speaker 1: tying in again to the to the drug that was
- 4:09Speaker 1: hopefully going to be the cure, and some things for
- 4:12Speaker 1: the second, third, fourth time have gone wrong with this
- 4:14Speaker 1: said cure. But you know, I didn't mind the run
- 4:19Speaker 1: arounds trying to like I would have liked it maybe
- 4:22Speaker 1: have played a little bit more into being maybe a
- 4:24Speaker 1: bit more of a horror movie type thing. But we've
- 4:26Speaker 1: already I feel like we've had that maybe twice already
- 4:28Speaker 1: this season where we've been stuck like whispers, right, and
- 4:32Speaker 1: then something else the other week, even when they got
- 4:35Speaker 1: caught up in that village where the Wraith came down
- 4:37Speaker 1: and were like hand over all these people.
- 4:39Speaker 2: All this happened, Yeah, other got an episode.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So Yeah, I didn't mind it. I for
- 4:44Speaker 1: once fourth episodes ago and they're like, oh, these are
- 4:47Speaker 1: the soldier ones. I'm like, they take their masks off,
- 4:50Speaker 1: what like this happens? Is this what they look like
- 4:53Speaker 1: or is this them if affected by the bloody drug.
- 4:57Speaker 2: I think we've only ever seen that once before, where
- 4:59Speaker 2: we saw like a newborn wraith dude like be born
- 5:06Speaker 2: and then some other wraith like put the scab on
- 5:08Speaker 2: his face, like as like a little mask. I think
- 5:11Speaker 2: that's the and I can't remember when that was, but
- 5:14Speaker 2: that's the only other memory I have of seeing like
- 5:16Speaker 2: a scab face without his scab.
- 5:17Speaker 1: On, right, Okay, I mean I liked again the the
- 5:22Speaker 1: that for me, I'm like, oh, they're slowly building to something,
- 5:25Speaker 1: you know, with with this drug and what this will mean.
- 5:28Speaker 1: And again knowing that this is the fourth last episode
- 5:33Speaker 1: and having heard from you guys that it's like, yeah,
- 5:36Speaker 1: just it doesn't get the quiet wrap up you know
- 5:39Speaker 1: maybe although you know, me looking at it from only
- 5:43Speaker 1: being fresh with SG one, they kind of did wrap
- 5:47Speaker 1: up the a I story. But then when they got
- 5:49Speaker 1: their movie, they really got to wrap it up. You know,
- 5:53Speaker 1: would we have been fine if they never made that movie. Probably,
- 5:56Speaker 1: you know, they just sort of went, oh, you thought
- 5:58Speaker 1: that happened, Well it did, so let's tell you about it,
- 6:00Speaker 1: or hey, you thought this happened during the show. In
- 6:02Speaker 1: fact it didn't. But now it's going to happen in
- 6:04Speaker 1: the movie, Whereas SGA, I'm like, are we going to
- 6:07Speaker 1: get to a point for me as a first time viewer?
- 6:09Speaker 1: Am I looking forward to the finale in a couple
- 6:12Speaker 1: of episodes time and they're going to get to like
- 6:15Speaker 1: wrap things up because they knew they were getting canceled
- 6:17Speaker 1: or is it being left open? And then that movie
- 6:21Speaker 1: that they really wanted to make happen that never eventuated
- 6:25Speaker 1: actually would have been the climax of the story.
- 6:27Speaker 2: So I'm just going to have to Jason Siegals tive
- 6:31Speaker 2: you and that's fine.
- 6:32Speaker 1: I don't The thing is, I don't want to know.
- 6:34Speaker 1: I really don't want to know.
- 6:36Speaker 2: I guess the only thing you can infer is the
- 6:38Speaker 2: fact that I have zero memory of ever watching this episode. Yeah,
- 6:42Speaker 2: it obviously mustn't have much of an impact impact on
- 6:46Speaker 2: the finale already, kind of you know, leftover circumstances. Yeah,
- 6:52Speaker 2: I wonder if because yeah, I agree with you, like
- 6:54Speaker 2: I didn't hate it. I mean, it's the first new
- 6:57Speaker 2: starget I've watched in the last fifteen years. But yeah,
- 7:01Speaker 2: maybe it's recency bias in that we've been spoilt for
- 7:05Speaker 2: lack of a better word of shows like The Walking
- 7:08Speaker 2: Dead and stuff like that, where you're like, well, if
- 7:09Speaker 2: you're gonna do zombies, just do zombies. But it's like, well,
- 7:12Speaker 2: a network show in two thousand and eight couldn't have
- 7:14Speaker 2: done what what Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead
- 7:19Speaker 2: have done? Yeah, so they went. I think they pushed
- 7:21Speaker 2: the envelope probably as far as they could at the time.
- 7:25Speaker 2: I mean, it's also a late season episodes. I'm probably
- 7:28Speaker 2: just tired and they've run out of money and all
- 7:30Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, I guess, But yeah, I would
- 7:33Speaker 2: have liked it. If if you're going to do it,
- 7:35Speaker 2: I would have liked to have gone a little a
- 7:36Speaker 2: little Gorria, maybe a little you know. But that's right.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine, and you know, we've certainly asked a bit.
- 7:44Speaker 1: It's not so much season five. I feel like maybe
- 7:45Speaker 1: it was a season four question we started talking about,
- 7:48Speaker 1: I guess the benefit of me being the first tim
- 7:50Speaker 1: but the idea of the Wraiths ship we know these
- 7:52Speaker 1: things are organically sort of grown and whatnot. And then yeah,
- 7:58Speaker 1: from a person. So we had that earlier episode and
- 8:00Speaker 1: the season with that with Keller, and then with this
- 8:03Speaker 1: that hey, there's there's a lot going wrong with this ship,
- 8:06Speaker 1: and then for for Todd to angrily realize, oh my god,
- 8:10Speaker 1: he's in a bad mood when you worke up, well
- 8:14Speaker 1: haven't we what today? And uh, and and for him
- 8:17Speaker 1: to get oh, I know, the the infection that's getting
- 8:19Speaker 1: us and affecting our DNA specifically is now affecting the
- 8:24Speaker 1: ship because it is a living ship for all intents
- 8:27Speaker 1: and purposes. So I kind of like that, you know,
- 8:29Speaker 1: further addition to the law and and what makes these
- 8:33Speaker 1: these bad guys and and and their backgrounds and things
- 8:36Speaker 1: like that.
- 8:36Speaker 2: So I did like John's reaction, like his face when
- 8:41Speaker 2: it cut to him when Todd was explaining the the
- 8:44Speaker 2: what do you call it, the exchange of fluids between
- 8:47Speaker 2: Wraith and Hive, just's like, yeah, okay, well done. It's
- 8:53Speaker 2: one of the few times John doesn't piss me off.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I liked him from from the beginning.
- 8:57Speaker 1: When the Hive ship, you know this has been tracking it,
- 8:59Speaker 1: it actually popped out. They get this weird ass transmission
- 9:02Speaker 1: that's all broken, and like, hey, we can't tell what
- 9:05Speaker 1: he's saying, like good, blow it out of the sky.
- 9:06Speaker 1: And John was just like, I'm not looking around this time.
- 9:09Speaker 1: This guy he left us for dead last time, like
- 9:11Speaker 1: he thought we were betraying him. I think he in
- 9:13Speaker 1: the end knew that we weren't.
- 9:14Speaker 2: But he's like, screw it, and he's gonna leave us
- 9:16Speaker 2: for even leave us for it actively you know, guided
- 9:20Speaker 2: the ship and then bailed.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Out, so pussy. Yeah, and so it's like, I screw
- 9:26Speaker 1: this guy. Oh maybe we need to go up and
- 9:28Speaker 1: then and they're like if we if this happens, then
- 9:30Speaker 1: these all guys, these guys are all gonna die. He's like, yeah,
- 9:32Speaker 1: that's my favorite part of the plan, Like just kill them.
- 9:36Speaker 1: And it was Wolsey even on that to some level
- 9:40Speaker 1: at the start, was he kind of I know obviously
- 9:42Speaker 1: Ronan was, but yeah, anyway, obviously they they then get
- 9:45Speaker 1: up there, but just the you know, looking at them
- 9:48Speaker 1: at the end where he did you know, I'm really
- 9:50Speaker 1: jumping around here. But when he then was the one
- 9:53Speaker 1: to fight for Todd's right to go somewhere else and
- 9:59Speaker 1: leave via the gate and say, how look he did,
- 10:01Speaker 1: he did a good thing by us. It's a good
- 10:02Speaker 1: thing by him because maybe just maybe he'll remember this,
- 10:05Speaker 1: and then twenty seconds later for Todd to turn to
- 10:08Speaker 1: John and go, I will never forget this. Oh yeah,
- 10:11Speaker 1: will you though? Or what are you not going to forget?
- 10:13Speaker 1: You know, you're twist it a little bit, you know,
- 10:16Speaker 1: I want to feel like you know that, Yeah, maybe
- 10:19Speaker 1: we can. We can trust him, but with three episodes ago,
- 10:23Speaker 1: Now what is that? What does that mean?
- 10:25Speaker 2: Yeah, you can only trust Todd it so far as
- 10:29Speaker 2: your ideals aligned. If what you're trying to do benefits him,
- 10:33Speaker 2: you can trust him. But the second anything is slightly
- 10:37Speaker 2: out of out of his realm of you know, what
- 10:40Speaker 2: he wants to happen. Now, yeah, what The one thing
- 10:43Speaker 2: that I thought was really weird because it did seem
- 10:45Speaker 2: like the the emotional sort of you know, pinnacle of
- 10:50Speaker 2: the episode is the like the tension and the face
- 10:55Speaker 2: off between John and Todd when Todd was thrown into
- 10:57Speaker 2: the into the cell about Todd wanting to oh it
- 11:03Speaker 2: might even just before he was throwing the set. It
- 11:04Speaker 2: was oh, yeah, that's right, because it was when they're
- 11:06Speaker 2: having their argument and he lifted his hand to try
- 11:07Speaker 2: and feed off him and then forgot that he didn't
- 11:09Speaker 2: have his hand vagina anymore. But it was the whole
- 11:12Speaker 2: argument about Todd wanted to jump into hyperspace and go
- 11:18Speaker 2: to the planet, and John was like, oh, you know,
- 11:22Speaker 2: the ship's not gonna gonna last or whatever, and I
- 11:24Speaker 2: was like, yeah, maybe it is. And then immediately like
- 11:27Speaker 2: this the second after Todd fails to feed on John
- 11:31Speaker 2: and he has security take him away, Rodney immediately calls
- 11:34Speaker 2: him and says, you need to come and come down
- 11:36Speaker 2: and have a look at this, and the ship literally
- 11:39Speaker 2: splits in half. So it's like it kind of undercut
- 11:42Speaker 2: the whole tension of that scene because Todd like threw
- 11:46Speaker 2: that thing in John's face about oh, you just want
- 11:49Speaker 2: to see my people die blah blah blah blah blah
- 11:50Speaker 2: blah blah. But it's like, well, the ship never would
- 11:53Speaker 2: have made it a three days journey to that planet anyway.
- 11:56Speaker 2: So it just kind of I don't know, just the
- 11:59Speaker 2: structure of the episode. I was just kind of like, oh, well,
- 12:01Speaker 2: it can't make that less less dramatic, because.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder I think for me, maybe it was
- 12:07Speaker 1: because we'd reached the decision had been made, right, Like
- 12:10Speaker 1: the tension was in what are they going to do?
- 12:12Speaker 1: Because I I again got to that moment, I'm like, oh,
- 12:15Speaker 1: we've still got a few minutes left from this episode,
- 12:17Speaker 1: maybe we are going to go to this planet, Maybe
- 12:19Speaker 1: we are going to go and try and find this erratus,
- 12:20Speaker 1: and then we didn't, so that the decision is made
- 12:24Speaker 1: and then Rodney says that, and then we see that
- 12:27Speaker 1: that's going to happen. So for me, it's like the
- 12:28Speaker 1: tension serves its purpose. But I can absolutely see that,
- 12:31Speaker 1: you know. And then you know, we get to witness, like,
- 12:34Speaker 1: you know, him pulling off the greatest sort of save
- 12:37Speaker 1: that we might have ever seen this show.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Like maybe it was just the timing of it, just
- 12:41Speaker 2: maybe there were scenes cut or I don't know. Yeah,
- 12:43Speaker 2: but if you think about it, because we went you
- 12:45Speaker 2: went from the confrontation with John and Todd to the
- 12:48Speaker 2: scene with McKay and the ship splitting in half, and
- 12:52Speaker 2: then it started falling into war bit and then John
- 12:54Speaker 2: went to the cell that Todd was in to say,
- 12:58Speaker 2: we need your help to you know, pilot the ship. Yeah,
- 13:01Speaker 2: so Todd was in that cell for maybe ten minutes.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, so it just.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Seemed like a weird sort of there wasn't enough time.
- 13:08Speaker 1: Chess pieces, like they knew where they were coming from,
- 13:11Speaker 1: they knew where they wanted to get to it. It's like, yeah,
- 13:13Speaker 1: how do we get from what?
- 13:14Speaker 2: Maybe maybe if Todd had been awake when they arrived
- 13:17Speaker 2: on it, like he was the only one awake on
- 13:19Speaker 2: the ship, and they had that argument really early on,
- 13:22Speaker 2: and then they put Todd in the cell and he
- 13:24Speaker 2: was in there for maybe Act two or something like yeah, yeah,
- 13:27Speaker 2: and then the ship splits in half and it's well,
- 13:30Speaker 2: now we've lost the opportunity to take the ship into
- 13:33Speaker 2: hyperspace to take us to this planet. Like yeah, just
- 13:35Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I was just a little bit
- 13:37Speaker 2: like it could have been better, same as at the end.
- 13:42Speaker 2: I think it's just you know, Alan McCullough has only
- 13:44Speaker 2: been on Stargate for a couple of years, like the
- 13:46Speaker 2: writer of this episode. I did find it weird that
- 13:49Speaker 2: it's like the big sort of action climax at the
- 13:53Speaker 2: end when the ship is you know, basically where we're
- 13:55Speaker 2: redoing that that one where John had to ride the
- 13:59Speaker 2: ship out of the moon kind of situation is that.
- 14:02Speaker 2: But Taylor's just calling out how many thousand feet we
- 14:05Speaker 2: are from from the surface and all that kind of stuff,
- 14:08Speaker 2: and I'm just like, so Taylor, the alien is reading
- 14:16Speaker 2: Wraith measurements and in real time converting them into thousands
- 14:22Speaker 2: of feet.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Hey, it's well known on the Wraith computer. They're sitting
- 14:27Speaker 1: there on conversion dot com. Version dot com obviously.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Yes, well because obviously the famous episode from season two
- 14:33Speaker 2: where John gets turned into a Wraith conversion.
- 14:37Speaker 1: True.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Yeah, they do some deep researchsion.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Obviously. I kind of like the Hey, we know that
- 14:43Speaker 1: we're into our final couple of episodes, so there was
- 14:46Speaker 1: reason enough for like a lot of the characters to
- 14:49Speaker 1: be up there, you know, like the fact that Keller
- 14:51Speaker 1: was up there. I know I had to deal with
- 14:52Speaker 1: the infection, but still, like we get our core for
- 14:56Speaker 1: and then we get Keller coming up, and then we
- 14:58Speaker 1: get what's old mate that's leader of like g A
- 15:00Speaker 1: two lawn, Like Lauren comes up with his people, and
- 15:03Speaker 1: there's some other what do you call them? You know,
- 15:06Speaker 1: I'm moving anna ask, but the people that are expendable,
- 15:08Speaker 1: that wear certain colored shirts and other franchises. I'm not
- 15:11Speaker 1: going to say it, but you know a few I
- 15:14Speaker 1: was gonna say faceless, but no, we actually deal with
- 15:17Speaker 1: they're not faceless, good guys. But yeah, just just canon fight,
- 15:20Speaker 1: just to be thrown out and and to be killed
- 15:23Speaker 1: off and and you know, even just the idea, Hey
- 15:27Speaker 1: this worked a little bit. The hand vaginas are gone,
- 15:30Speaker 1: but now they're having to feed using their mouths at
- 15:33Speaker 1: the first time. So it did make them like or
- 15:35Speaker 1: they regress them and turn them a bit more animalistic.
- 15:38Speaker 1: I kind of like that, you know, like de evolution,
- 15:40Speaker 1: that they're just like they became so carnivorous in a way,
- 15:44Speaker 1: like ravenous in a way that they just you know,
- 15:49Speaker 1: without without knowing what to do, just went for and became.
- 15:53Speaker 1: It became so primal and so instinctual to.
- 15:56Speaker 2: We can all relate to resorting to our primal urgers
- 15:59Speaker 2: and not knowing what to do the first time we
- 16:02Speaker 2: graduate from not using our hand to using our mouth,
- 16:04Speaker 2: you know, like we all we all, you know struggle,
- 16:08Speaker 2: we all struggle with that.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Oh so well, I mean sure some of us must, but.
- 16:14Speaker 2: Some people not you obviously, no, no, I would have
- 16:17Speaker 2: you never struggled.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Now. I think I think I nearly got caught. I graduated.
- 16:24Speaker 2: I was going to say, you know, you're alphabet but
- 16:26Speaker 2: we might be talking about two different things.
- 16:28Speaker 1: We'll talk there, Okay.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like that's not something I'm willing to
- 16:38Speaker 2: have as public.
- 16:41Speaker 1: It's not even a Patriot special.
- 16:42Speaker 2: This one that's the only fans special. I don't know
- 16:48Speaker 2: if this is a inadvertent uh commentary on the quality
- 16:54Speaker 2: of this episode or not. But ironically no commentary ah right,
- 16:59Speaker 2: no commentary in one and no commentary on next week's episode.
- 17:03Speaker 2: I noticed when I popped in the DVD.
- 17:05Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know, you're so close wine, And
- 17:07Speaker 1: there was one missing a couple of weeks ago too.
- 17:10Speaker 1: I think, what are you saying? I can't remember? Maybe
- 17:14Speaker 1: I'm getting lost. You know, we've been pumping out a
- 17:16Speaker 1: lot of episodes over.
- 17:17Speaker 2: They do start to run together.
- 17:20Speaker 1: To keep track of. But you would think in an
- 17:22Speaker 1: episode like this that just got to do some things
- 17:24Speaker 1: a little bit differently, that you're gonna like this could
- 17:28Speaker 1: be McCulloch's last episode, right writing last.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Weep as Martin giras last episode at oh.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Really yeah wow? And did he jumped on? Is he
- 17:38Speaker 1: involved heavily?
- 17:39Speaker 2: And I wouldn't say heavily, but I believe he does.
- 17:42Speaker 1: A consulting producer maybe or something like that.
- 17:44Speaker 2: I guess because it was so different, and this is
- 17:46Speaker 2: Allen's last episode for Atlanta, not.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Coming back doing a commentary for it, you know.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Yeah, next week Identities is written by Carl Binder Vegas.
- 17:58Speaker 1: You love this episode, dang, you were talking about it?
- 18:01Speaker 2: Written by Robert C. Cooper, directed by Robert C. Cooper,
- 18:09Speaker 2: and then the season finale written by John Paul Ah great,
- 18:13Speaker 2: so excellent, Yeah, which I think is probably their first
- 18:15Speaker 2: one in a while. I feel like gear is.
- 18:17Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't said their name in a
- 18:19Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, written and directed by Yeah.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah that'll be interesting.
- 18:25Speaker 1: So is there any I was asking the final three
- 18:29Speaker 1: is instead of saying is there any sort of like
- 18:31Speaker 1: you know, leading towards the end? But you know, because
- 18:34Speaker 1: I feel like this one without knowing, I'm like, ah, well,
- 18:37Speaker 1: obviously the drug that the cure is is, you know,
- 18:41Speaker 1: it's been We've been speaking around it for the last
- 18:44Speaker 1: couple of episodes, last little while. It hasn't been the
- 18:48Speaker 1: ongoing storyline like in and out of every episode, but
- 18:51Speaker 1: it is this they're talking about it a lot. So
- 18:53Speaker 1: they're just planting some more seeds, so it's going to
- 18:55Speaker 1: come into play. But like it also maybe just doesn't
- 18:59Speaker 1: like I just I really don't know, Thank you. I'm
- 19:02Speaker 1: not even looking at you in the eye, because I
- 19:05Speaker 1: genuinely just don't want to know. But I feel like
- 19:07Speaker 1: I haven't had to feel like this yet because going
- 19:10Speaker 1: into SG one's final episodes, I'd already been there, so
- 19:13Speaker 1: I already knew what to expect. I already knew when
- 19:16Speaker 1: to start feeling like the show was being wrapped up
- 19:18Speaker 1: or to know. Oh now, I feel like it is
- 19:21Speaker 1: too late because I know how many I know what
- 19:22Speaker 1: they do with the final episode, and I don't want
- 19:26Speaker 1: to feel about SGA.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I'll give you this much information, So identity next week's
- 19:30Speaker 2: episode very much a standalone O just very much just
- 19:33Speaker 2: a stand alone you know, Adventure Vegas, the penultimate episode
- 19:38Speaker 2: of the series. Mo I would say, ninety nine point
- 19:45Speaker 2: five percent of it nothing to do with the overall wow,
- 19:50Speaker 2: and then just one little, one little little drip, one
- 19:53Speaker 2: little just a little just a little eye drop up
- 19:56Speaker 2: and then the finale Wow. You like all the n
- 20:01Speaker 2: C I, s C S I, Laura and order procedurals, procedurals,
- 20:05Speaker 2: don't you.
- 20:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I get around a procedural. Yeah, I don't mind.
- 20:08Speaker 1: I mind a procedure. I don't need an ongoing story.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Well two things obviously one. Yes, everyone check out. I
- 20:12Speaker 2: think it dropped. Second of December. Lincoln's episode n c
- 20:17Speaker 2: I Sydney.
- 20:18Speaker 1: So episode seven if you want to see Louar, I
- 20:20Speaker 1: think is the episode.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Okay. I was just gonna say, if you want to
- 20:24Speaker 2: see Lincoln's take on a on, what a sexy Steve Irwin?
- 20:28Speaker 2: Like Robert Irwin's shaking in his boots, like I know,
- 20:31Speaker 2: Robert just one just recently one dancing with the Stars
- 20:33Speaker 2: in the US and everyone's like, oh my god, he's
- 20:35Speaker 2: so hot. He took his shirt off. You you have
- 20:38Speaker 2: not he is butter boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the
- 20:44Speaker 2: difference between watching the first Harry Potter movie. That's that's
- 20:48Speaker 2: Robert Irwin, whereas it.
- 20:51Speaker 1: Is Daniel Radcliffe naked on stage with the horse. Oh no,
- 20:55Speaker 1: I was Harry Potter.
- 20:56Speaker 2: I was going to say Channing Tatum in Magic Mic
- 20:59Speaker 2: Oh shit.
- 20:59Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we weren't even staying.
- 21:01Speaker 2: With none where where. Yeah, we're completely universe. This was
- 21:06Speaker 2: I was gonna say, hardcore porn. But I'll bring the back,
- 21:09Speaker 2: bring that back and I'll go Magic Mike. But the
- 21:12Speaker 2: first Magic Mike, not none of this xx l or
- 21:15Speaker 2: an that kind of stuff. I'm not not not that
- 21:17Speaker 2: that's a read on Lincoln that he's not xx No,
- 21:19Speaker 2: And I'm just thinking, I'm just saying quality wise interesting.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Yeah, because the first one was so like serious man,
- 21:24Speaker 1: and then the third one.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Okay, this is just a difference in now viewing things.
- 21:28Speaker 1: But what I mean it wasn't.
- 21:29Speaker 2: But I just mean, like Genuine's pony is.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Top tier. I think I remember that from the second one,
- 21:36Speaker 1: like really getting a ramp up.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Oh maybe I'm thinking that.
- 21:40Speaker 1: I've only seen two of them.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Oh no, I've seen them all. Okay, because the third
- 21:43Speaker 2: one had someone high in it. Yeah, Well, and I'll
- 21:45Speaker 2: watch anything some high. I'll watch anything Lincoln Lewis is
- 21:48Speaker 2: or watching anything.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Oh God, get all these shirtless men out of the way.
- 21:52Speaker 1: I just want to get the Selma. But she'd go shirtless.
- 21:57Speaker 1: Well she's you know, she's she's put her runs the board.
- 22:00Speaker 2: She got close in Dogma she got that was one
- 22:03Speaker 2: of the lowest cut tops I've ever seen.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I feel like it was old Selmer.
- 22:07Speaker 1: She can't help that any she makes any shirt. The
- 22:11Speaker 1: shirts are hanging on for dear life. Yeah, Okay, now
- 22:14Speaker 1: I'm just thinking it was gonna come as no surprise
- 22:16Speaker 1: to you if Lincoln gets to be trandingtated, Could I
- 22:18Speaker 1: please be Joe Man?
- 22:19Speaker 2: You know, I mean only if you do the Backstreet
- 22:22Speaker 2: Boys song?
- 22:22Speaker 1: This was Backstreet Was that in the in the petrol station? Yeah?
- 22:26Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 22:26Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 22:26Speaker 2: Was that Backstreet Boys? It was in sync?
- 22:30Speaker 1: Ship. I don't know.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I guess that means yeah, yeah, I guess
- 22:35Speaker 2: that makes me Matt Bomer in that situation. Is that?
- 22:38Speaker 1: Yeah? Okcause names Matt. So there you go. No, you're
- 22:42Speaker 1: definitely Matt. I love that. He's great. Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:45Speaker 2: So that was part one. Part two is okay, So
- 22:49Speaker 2: you went through those procedures, like how do you feel
- 22:51Speaker 2: about CSI, because if we're like CSI Miami with like
- 22:54Speaker 2: that redheaded guy that's.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Like Horatio Creane's one. Yeah, oh no, they're fine. They
- 23:02Speaker 1: just were a little bit. I think I was a
- 23:05Speaker 1: child of law and order. Where you're going from what
- 23:08Speaker 1: he did musk hagaday, muska hagaday, you know, and then
- 23:10Speaker 1: like you know, from the very beginning, like sexually based
- 23:13Speaker 1: offenses are considered especially heinous, and it's dealing with some
- 23:16Speaker 1: light and you watch like criminal intent and it's some
- 23:18Speaker 1: like like you're, dude, what do you do with this?
- 23:21Speaker 1: This is network television? What do you just settle down
- 23:23Speaker 1: a little bit? And then you go to see us
- 23:25Speaker 1: side and it's like the sexiest crime fighting you've ever seen,
- 23:28Speaker 1: like the editing, you know that, like there everyone's hot
- 23:31Speaker 1: and CUSI you know, like all the men are attractive,
- 23:33Speaker 1: all the women are attractive. They're wearing high heels when
- 23:35Speaker 1: they go to crime scenes. I just feel for what
- 23:39Speaker 1: his character was like. He even if not aesthetically as
- 23:42Speaker 1: pleasing as some of the like Hispanic men that were
- 23:45Speaker 1: in that show, who were like, you know, chiseled from stone,
- 23:48Speaker 1: his sexist was in the way that he carried deliveries
- 23:52Speaker 1: lines and every sunglasses. I'm sorry to say that your
- 23:56Speaker 1: son is dead. He was decapitated.
- 23:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess if you've got to, you know, if
- 24:03Speaker 2: you've got a gray Ginger's, he's probably gonna beat like
- 24:05Speaker 2: an Ed Sheer and you know who looks like a
- 24:08Speaker 2: bridge control. But he's adorable though, Like he's one of
- 24:11Speaker 2: those cute like trolls from the Trolls movie. You know,
- 24:14Speaker 2: like you want to hug him, but you don't want to,
- 24:16Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I'll hug you after your shower, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 24:19Speaker 2: and brush your hair.
- 24:20Speaker 1: Why they was cside because I can see it. I
- 24:22Speaker 1: just was never that invested.
- 24:23Speaker 2: In Yeah right, Well, all I'll say is I've I've
- 24:27Speaker 2: gone ahead and I've prepped some of the audio commentaries.
- 24:30Speaker 2: I only made it eight minutes through the through the
- 24:33Speaker 2: Robert C. Cooper audio commentary for Vegas. And one of
- 24:36Speaker 2: the things they pointed out is basically to do before
- 24:38Speaker 2: they did Vegas, like as preparation for Vegas, they watched
- 24:43Speaker 2: an entire season box set of CSI and and listen
- 24:50Speaker 2: to all the audio commentaries, just to see how they
- 24:52Speaker 2: how they shot things, how they lit things, how they
- 24:55Speaker 2: edited things.
- 24:57Speaker 1: So oversaturated done on interesting? So will you say that?
- 25:03Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, it's not just called Vegas because
- 25:05Speaker 1: of it's a cool name.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Might might be the location take place.
- 25:12Speaker 1: On maybe Earth in Las Vegas.
- 25:14Speaker 2: And maybe the working title for the episode was CSI Atlantis.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Okay, interesting? Then that you go, huh, we's just say
- 25:25Speaker 1: it was polar right, how can we possibly well, were
- 25:27Speaker 1: they already like having fun with it? Then if it's
- 25:29Speaker 1: cs Atlantis with a almost doing a mock you episode?
- 25:33Speaker 2: And it was it was filmed the last episode of
- 25:37Speaker 2: the series, so they'd already.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Filmed, they'd done their good like in a way, done
- 25:40Speaker 1: that they had already.
- 25:40Speaker 2: On the final episode, and then this episode was filmed
- 25:44Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of so basically the entire
- 25:46Speaker 2: production of like what are they going to do? Virus
- 25:49Speaker 2: and Robert C. Cooper, who's obviously a visionary.
- 25:52Speaker 1: He's not Guiro, but he's no Giro.
- 25:55Speaker 2: But he's you know, he's he's a Kubrick. You know,
- 25:58Speaker 2: he's no Giro, but he's he's a Kubrick.
- 26:00Speaker 1: He's a he's just a child of the art.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Yeah. It was the other guy who was compared to
- 26:05Speaker 2: the Oh Woody Allen, Wood Allen, Well, do you want
- 26:10Speaker 2: to be well true? I mean, two thousand and seven
- 26:13Speaker 2: was probably a better time to actively compare yourself to
- 26:16Speaker 2: Woody Allen than it is now, isn't it probably?
- 26:18Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I'm a mixture of Woody
- 26:21Speaker 1: Allen and Roland Polanski. It's like maybe maybe Pabby choose
- 26:26Speaker 1: two other girls, you know.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I really feel like I'm a combination of Harvey Weinstein.
- 26:32Speaker 1: And yeah, you couldn't have just picked like, oh, I
- 26:38Speaker 1: really see myself more as a like Steven Spielberg and
- 26:42Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan and like that type of like, oh yeah,
- 26:44Speaker 1: people that generally speak on a personal level. People don't
- 26:47Speaker 1: seem to have too many problems. Yeah you know what
- 26:48Speaker 1: I mean.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I see myself as a jafswed and type.
- 26:53Speaker 1: I think that's going to age well in the.
- 26:54Speaker 2: Future, mixed in with a little bit of Kleine, you know,
- 26:57Speaker 2: when I'm in front of the camera.
- 26:58Speaker 1: And as an actor, I kind of thinking myself as
- 27:00Speaker 1: more of a Kevin Specie change.
- 27:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's that's in your future.
- 27:08Speaker 1: Okay, not too far two weeks Yeah, well not even
- 27:11Speaker 1: the way the way we're going at the moment. Guys
- 27:13Speaker 1: will see. Yeah, we are trying to obviously get this out.
- 27:18Speaker 1: That was our plan was to wrap twenty twenty five
- 27:21Speaker 1: up by wrapping up at Atlantis.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Yeah, they did. Being twenty twenty five finish Atlantis, twenty
- 27:26Speaker 2: twenty six will be Universe because there's only two seasons
- 27:30Speaker 2: to get through there, and then hopefully by mid twenty
- 27:33Speaker 2: twenty seven we'll have maybe in the interim between Universe
- 27:38Speaker 2: finishing and whatever the new series is starting, maybe we
- 27:41Speaker 2: can just do like a I mean, Brendan did say
- 27:44Speaker 2: at one point he wanted to re record the COVID episodes,
- 27:46Speaker 2: which is definitely not happening, and if it and if
- 27:51Speaker 2: it is, if it is, I'm not going to be
- 27:52Speaker 2: here for that. We'll just just superimpose everything I said
- 27:57Speaker 2: in the podcast and you guys can just re record
- 27:58Speaker 2: around everything Ice said during the COVID episodes. But maybe
- 28:02Speaker 2: it's like, maybe maybe all of us could watch the
- 28:05Speaker 2: first ones and just see if everybody has an opinion
- 28:08Speaker 2: on what they think of So.
- 28:10Speaker 1: I mad, He's just left us right there, So I'm so, yeah,
- 28:14Speaker 1: that's not a bad idea. That's bad. I mean, you know,
- 28:17Speaker 1: we organized to do it. You guys just don't show up,
- 28:19Speaker 1: and it just means that I have to. Yeah, I
- 28:21Speaker 1: have to do it. That's fine.
- 28:22Speaker 2: We could and we could redo it. We could watch
- 28:24Speaker 2: the non Bush cut of Children of the Gods. I mean,
- 28:28Speaker 2: some would say, what's the point?
- 28:29Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that what Brennan said he recently watched with
- 28:33Speaker 1: his son Jack. Did they watch the.
- 28:34Speaker 2: He thought he was watching that one, but he ended
- 28:36Speaker 2: up watching just the Bog, the Standard, The Bog Standard.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Good.
- 28:39Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good for Jack because yeah, they released that
- 28:41Speaker 2: version after Continuum.
- 28:46Speaker 1: It was the third.
- 28:47Speaker 2: It was the third sort of DVD special release was
- 28:49Speaker 2: the Children of the Gods Final Cut or whatever it
- 28:52Speaker 2: was called or something.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I wonder what the temperature was like at the time.
- 28:55Speaker 1: With me, I think I was just excited to go
- 28:57Speaker 1: and buy something. Oh it's a new version of the
- 28:59Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna get some makes extra stuff.
- 29:00Speaker 1: But it's like, hey, we're you know, there's Ark of
- 29:03Speaker 1: Truth coming. It's continues coming. It's like, okay, hey, there's
- 29:07Speaker 1: no more movies, but we've got there's going to be
- 29:09Speaker 1: another release brought to you on DVD. Guys, get ready
- 29:14Speaker 1: and it will Oh my god. And then it's like,
- 29:16Speaker 1: we're just giving you a lesser version of the pilot.
- 29:20Speaker 2: We're giving you we're taking the boobs out, but we're
- 29:23Speaker 2: putting a cargo ship in.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Like, whoa, yeah, we know what you want, less boob,
- 29:30Speaker 1: more ship. Yeah yeah, So you wouldn't have thought so, guys.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Wouldn't have thought. So. A couple of things I noticed in
- 29:36Speaker 2: this episode though. One maybe I've just been behind it,
- 29:39Speaker 2: but I feel like the last few episodes Shepherd hasn't
- 29:42Speaker 2: been using a p ninety. I only really noticed in
- 29:44Speaker 2: this episode, it's holding almost like what Cam was holding
- 29:48Speaker 2: in like the last season of SG one, like like
- 29:51Speaker 2: the two handed grip kind of yeah yeah kind of situation.
- 29:53Speaker 2: And I feel like maybe somethen using that for a
- 29:55Speaker 2: couple of weeks or something like that. I didn't notice that.
- 29:58Speaker 2: And then you're a bit of a like an edity
- 30:01Speaker 2: kind of person, you pick up stuff like that. There
- 30:03Speaker 2: was a super weird edit, and I feel like this episode,
- 30:07Speaker 2: did you notice if there were any like fade to
- 30:09Speaker 2: black act breaks or anything like that, or did you
- 30:11Speaker 2: feel this was.
- 30:12Speaker 1: It was funny because the way the music builds up,
- 30:15Speaker 1: you know before they do a cut, and I'm like, oh,
- 30:17Speaker 1: here we going to cut the black like the DVD is,
- 30:19Speaker 1: don't cut to black like a what am I looking for?
- 30:21Speaker 1: But you can clearly tell like where it's setting up
- 30:24Speaker 1: for a commercial and other times where it's just a
- 30:27Speaker 1: sort of you know, mid break, yeah set up.
- 30:29Speaker 2: So maybe maybe this wasn'tthing to be a commercial break.
- 30:31Speaker 2: Have you listened to this and see if you can
- 30:32Speaker 2: pick it up.
- 30:33Speaker 3: I believe I know why this ship is malfunctioning, the
- 30:40Speaker 3: diseases in the ship.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe I know where the device is the
- 30:44Speaker 2: ship is malfunctioning, and then it just cuts to an
- 30:46Speaker 2: outside shot of the hive just and so it's like
- 30:50Speaker 2: they cut outside for his explanation and then cut back
- 30:53Speaker 2: in for the calor to go and to reiterate.
- 30:55Speaker 1: What he said.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that felt really odd.
- 30:58Speaker 1: Yeah, now I felt I probably have to watch it
- 31:00Speaker 1: as well to to like listening to it. Obviously is one. Yeah,
- 31:03Speaker 1: I mean you're.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Probably sixty forty it watching lawn, like folding laundry and
- 31:06Speaker 2: stuff at the time. Maybe yeah, yeah, that would makes sense.
- 31:09Speaker 1: And some dishes making school lunches or something. You know,
- 31:13Speaker 1: it was on the TV, not my laptop, some a
- 31:14Speaker 1: little bit further away, but you know, I had headphones on,
- 31:17Speaker 1: so I was immersed.
- 31:19Speaker 2: And then that's a good call.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Obviously, beautiful Jill State was on screen, so I was attentive.
- 31:26Speaker 2: Mate next week, next week is your episode?
- 31:32Speaker 1: Well, say a little bit more, okay.
- 31:34Speaker 2: Okay, Well it's a it's a it's a Keller based episode.
- 31:39Speaker 2: And maybe she makes reference to eagerly wanting to watch
- 31:45Speaker 2: one of your favorite movie franchises while consuming one of
- 31:50Speaker 2: your favorite movie snacks.
- 31:52Speaker 1: This is within the story, the narrative. This is Okay,
- 31:56Speaker 1: what's my favorite snack? She would be.
- 31:59Speaker 2: I grabbed the udio when I labeled it Mitch's ideal woman, Mitch's.
- 32:03Speaker 1: Perfect woman outside of my wife. How dare you? Okay, So, like,
- 32:09Speaker 1: you know, if it was like, hey, do you want
- 32:12Speaker 1: to grab a party bag size packet of vinegar chips
- 32:19Speaker 1: and when rings? Obviously, thank you. You're a perfect woman.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Missing one vital component, oneotle component. You're perfect.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Look, get a giant hand, we'll call it. Even.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Pretty sure I can order those Amazon these days, So
- 32:40Speaker 2: don't take me it's been a while in a dry spell.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Vagina or anything. Yeah, okay, good, good deposit. I don't
- 32:47Speaker 1: think either of those things are going to come up,
- 32:49Speaker 1: maybe one more than the other. You know what, well,
- 32:51Speaker 1: what are you talking about?
- 32:53Speaker 2: What's what's coming up?
- 32:54Speaker 1: Stop? Lord of the Rings is definitely uh, it's it's like, yeah,
- 32:58Speaker 1: it's sitting at like two dollars twenty bedding. Sultan vinegar
- 33:02Speaker 1: crisps or or potato chips are probably at nine hundred
- 33:08Speaker 1: to one.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't I don't think there is even a
- 33:10Speaker 2: thing in the States, no.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Get around in America, Sultan vinegar.
- 33:14Speaker 2: I mean it is, it is weird though that when
- 33:16Speaker 2: you go to other countries and it's like the bags
- 33:17Speaker 2: of the wrong color.
- 33:18Speaker 1: Oh, I can't like half round it like have for
- 33:21Speaker 1: them like I think some vinegar I've had to find
- 33:24Speaker 1: it was like red or something, and it just.
- 33:26Speaker 2: No, they're blue, aren't They aren't smith something because you
- 33:28Speaker 2: love the lays Lays Sultan vinegar I think are blue.
- 33:31Speaker 1: And you can't really get them here.
- 33:33Speaker 2: Yeah, same as Starburst. She can't get starbursed here anymore either,
- 33:35Speaker 2: what like packet and stuff, you can't. You can't get
- 33:37Speaker 2: starbus if you got to Colson Mornings, you can't buy
- 33:39Speaker 2: star Wars choosing.
- 33:40Speaker 1: I'm done, Yeah, I mean I haven't sought out to
- 33:44Speaker 1: buy them in.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Someone had to point it out to me because decade,
- 33:47Speaker 2: years and years ago I mourned the loss and severely
- 33:50Speaker 2: mourned the loss of Starburst jelly beans.
- 33:54Speaker 1: When you say severely mourned the loss of jelly beans.
- 33:58Speaker 2: It's someone who's lost their mother in the last five years.
- 34:00Speaker 1: By the way, you compare that morning.
- 34:07Speaker 2: Pretty d par pretty on par. Yeah, no Starburst jelly
- 34:12Speaker 2: beans because I and this is really discussing. So I
- 34:14Speaker 2: apologize to anyone who's listening to this in the lunch break,
- 34:16Speaker 2: whatever it may be. But I do remember once consuming
- 34:19Speaker 2: in one sitting watching a movie or something like that,
- 34:21Speaker 2: an entire bag of Starburst jelly beans and ma poop
- 34:24Speaker 2: the next day being green because of all the dyes
- 34:27Speaker 2: and colors and stuff like that.
- 34:29Speaker 1: So yeah, you're welcome.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Yep, you're welcome. I do have one bit of other
- 34:36Speaker 2: audio here, but I have no idea how to set
- 34:38Speaker 2: it up because I do not remember. It just says influence,
- 34:41Speaker 2: so I don't know. We're here anyway.
- 34:44Speaker 1: You do remember the last rate that came out of
- 34:46Speaker 1: one of those parts eight, one of our marines.
- 34:47Speaker 2: He was just a warrior drone.
- 34:49Speaker 3: Look, we've long suspected that they spend the majority of
- 34:51Speaker 3: their life under the controlling mental influence of the other rate.
- 34:54Speaker 3: It's not surprising if you remove that influence they revert
- 34:56Speaker 3: to an animal state. But that shouldn't happen with Hoard theoretically.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the thing that we've suddenly four episodes
- 35:03Speaker 2: from the end of the series, they're like, oh, we've
- 35:06Speaker 2: always suspected that the higher up rates have an influence
- 35:09Speaker 2: over the drone, like.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Some kind of almost uh cerebral control, like yeah, like
- 35:14Speaker 1: their you know, their thoughts almost.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Yeah, in the same way like in the first episode,
- 35:17Speaker 2: saw the Queen like make John Neil like.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Neil, Yeah, yeah, that sort of ship.
- 35:21Speaker 2: I can't but I don't think anyone's ever positive that
- 35:25Speaker 2: they could do the same thing to the drones.
- 35:27Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well you're right here for like four episodes
- 35:30Speaker 1: to go, and I'm like, oh, that would have been
- 35:32Speaker 1: something to play, but this just seemed to serve something
- 35:34Speaker 1: else that was there to serve something else, as opposed
- 35:37Speaker 1: to being something interesting to explore on its on its own. Like,
- 35:41Speaker 1: you know, theoretically, maybe if they were able to sort
- 35:43Speaker 1: of tap into that or give Taylor that sort of
- 35:45Speaker 1: ability or boost up her thing, she could use those
- 35:48Speaker 1: drone soldiers, yeah, as their own you know where was.
- 35:52Speaker 2: That a few weeks ago when she was impersonating a queen?
- 35:54Speaker 1: Yeah right, yes, I mean yeah.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Alan mccullor, oh don't. I don't know if he'll get
- 36:01Speaker 2: an invite back for the new series.
- 36:02Speaker 1: No. I've got this soft spot for Alan McCulloch as
- 36:05Speaker 1: a as a writer, because there's one of my favorite
- 36:08Speaker 1: Brisbane Broncos that's ever put the jersey on the at
- 36:11Speaker 1: the Club Andrew McCulloch, and so it's just similar enough
- 36:15Speaker 1: that I actually like, Yeah, I like Alan McCallum. I
- 36:17Speaker 1: don't know that I liked any of these episodes. I'm
- 36:18Speaker 1: sure I did. This one was fine, This is good,
- 36:20Speaker 1: but I just you know, i's got a weird so
- 36:23Speaker 1: I will miss saying McCulloch. Yeah, podcast, we'll do one
- 36:26Speaker 1: more to write, really wrap things up at the end. Yeah,
- 36:28Speaker 1: in a true like Cooper gear a way, but in
- 36:30Speaker 1: a far nicer tone mcclor Yeah, and like a real
- 36:36Speaker 1: stellar So we'll get there.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Because we know that my accents are perfect. So when
- 36:39Speaker 2: I you're very when I go very, you know, Irish
- 36:42Speaker 2: slash Scottish, because I don't know the difference, but they're
- 36:45Speaker 2: always spot on.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Yeah, McCulloch, Yeah, mccallough. As far as two countries being
- 36:49Speaker 1: confused with one another, I'm sure they'd be fine with that.
- 36:54Speaker 2: You call an American a Canadian, Oh my god, they're like,
- 36:56Speaker 2: we get called New Zealanders. Well South African?
- 36:59Speaker 1: Is that I don't know. I've yeah, I heard the
- 37:00Speaker 1: South African thing. I'm like, really though, yeah really anyway, Yeah,
- 37:06Speaker 1: it's fine, Denny, you know, I release a video on
- 37:09Speaker 1: Instagra a month and a half ago now, and I
- 37:14Speaker 1: only said one line, and one of that line, one
- 37:17Speaker 1: of the words was decade, And I say, what decade
- 37:20Speaker 1: is it? And because I sort of said it so
- 37:23Speaker 1: quickly and I was walking away from the microphone as
- 37:25Speaker 1: it happened, it sounded like clearly to a foreign audience
- 37:30Speaker 1: and probably did half the people in Australia as well.
- 37:32Speaker 1: All the comments up to work. What dickhead is it?
- 37:36Speaker 1: I love it? Yeah? You know what? That may as
- 37:38Speaker 1: well be my cat trace now that could be on
- 37:39Speaker 1: a shirt. You know, what dickhead is it? I'm like,
- 37:42Speaker 1: oh yeah, I guess I've got that real Queensland twang
- 37:45Speaker 1: or something.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Clag What dickhead is it?
- 37:49Speaker 1: What dickhead is it?
- 37:51Speaker 2: New merchant confirmed? Check out our Patreon What fate?
- 37:54Speaker 1: What dickhead? Amaroka? All right, Well, we'll see you back
- 38:01Speaker 1: next week for a very kell I inspired and influenced
- 38:04Speaker 1: in heavy episode what's it called again?
- 38:07Speaker 2: Identity?
- 38:08Speaker 1: Identity good two thousand and three thriller, by the way,
- 38:11Speaker 1: great start sounding John Cusack.
- 38:13Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean you say that Identity final
- 38:16Speaker 2: episode of two thousand and eight of Stargate.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Ah so they squeeze into to own eye.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Yeah. The the next two after that go into January
- 38:24Speaker 2: of only okay nice apparently, according to Google Welcome.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Holy won't happen here. It's all going to be wrapped
- 38:30Speaker 1: up in December. So that is our plan, unless, of course,
- 38:34Speaker 1: something bad happens and I edit all of this out,
- 38:39Speaker 1: but I'd keep that laughing, so it'll just laugh and
- 38:41Speaker 1: come out of nowhere.
- 38:42Speaker 3: To get into the Geek, get into the Gate, get
- 38:47Speaker 3: into eight stargates.