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co created rides · The Horsehuman Connection Matrix

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  This is the Horse Human Connection, a captivating podcast where we extend into the world of equine assisted learning, horse training.
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  and gentleness in working with these magnificent creatures.
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  Captivating stories from the leading professionals and ordinary people alike unravel novel ideas in being with horses.
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  The Horse Human Connection is an idea, a place, and a voice.
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  The idea is to support the quiet revolution and recognize the intelligence and true nature of the horse.
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  The place is a destination farm near the Umpqua Forest and River that slows down visitors and patrons enough to experience the shift.
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  The Voice is this podcast.
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  Welcome to today's episode.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Hi, this is, is she able with the horse human connection?
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I'm starting this podcast because.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I want to answer questions and I want to ask questions.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And a lot of it centers around horses and it all started with cows.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And there's some cow stories that I've told that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Leads you into some of what happened with the horses, but there was a shift.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And it's a shift.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I think a lot of people are experiencing.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So it's very, very worth.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Talking about.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I rode at stables as a child.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I can remember a couple of key points.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: From way back then.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I remember.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Someone put me on a horse.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I was probably, I don't know, four or five or six.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And we went on a trail ride.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was in the Sierra Nevada, and it was up a steep mountain trail.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was wide.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It wasn't like a narrow deer trail.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was a three or four foot foot path.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But I remember being afraid and someone telling me.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That horse has four feet.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: You have two, you could walk on this easily.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: They can walk on it twice as easily.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That helped me not to be afraid.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I trusted that helped me trust the horse.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It made perfect sense.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was logical.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I did feel safe.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I remember another time I was taking a lesson maybe for the first time.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was a Western style in California and they explained that to me and how to hold the reins in your left hand.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And keep the balance of the rains and your right hand on your leg.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And they told me.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Don't be afraid.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Don't let the horse think.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: You're afraid.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: You're the boss.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And as a child.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I didn't know how I was going to convince the horse of that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Cause I was scared.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was a big animal.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And much later years and years and years and years later.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That moment has come back to me and I never want to teach children that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I know now that horses don't.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Tolerate in congruence very well.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And in congruence has when we feel one way on the inside and show something else on the outside they are masters of knowing intention and they've had to be to survive.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: As a wild species.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: If there's a Cougar.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Out there on the outskirts, the horses know of that Cougar had breakfast or not, or when it last ate.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: They have o.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Yeah, horses can read your pulse and your heart rate from 60 feet away.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: The more we know about horses, the more we know about neuroscience and.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And books like horse brain human brain.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And what actually happens when we connect with them.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: The more interested.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I am.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Very fortunate to have had.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: A mentor and trainer.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Who.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Really understands horses and understands neuroscience because she's a human trauma therapist.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Over about a three-year period about once a month, she would come.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Either for the whole day or sometimes for the weekend.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I studied and I learned it.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Wasn't always easy.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: In fact, it was often very difficult to open myself to the new learnings.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But I did.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I learned so so much.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I'm so grateful to have had all of the great teachers that I've had.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: In 2016, I set upon a quest to learn more about equine assisted learning and experiential learning.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I visited equanisity retreats in British Columbia.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And Kamloops British Columbia with Liz mitten, Ryan and.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: When I got home from a week there.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: My entire relationship with the horses changed.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: My horse has changed, actually, it was me that had changed, not them, but, but we were, we were connected in different ways.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And the reason I wanted to go to equanisity in the first place was I saw it on Facebook and there were people laying down, cuddling with horses, the way people cuddle with their dogs.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: This was just beyond anything I could imagine.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I didn't even know if it was real.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But it was real.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I came home excited to do 20 case studies.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That involved me just taking notes and staying out of.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: it Having other people come to interact with the horses.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: In a, in a way where there was an intention that horses could help.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Healing.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: With people.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And that's a pretty broad category as I see it now.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But as I saw, then that the mantra trust and allow was what was given to me.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And take notes and stay out of it.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I did this, I had 20 different case studies.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And amazing things happened.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But when I came home with this excitement to tell my herd of three horses, that this is what I wanted to do.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And scolded them for pinning ears and backing up to each other and having some what I would call now, unnecessary roughness in a, in a large penned area together.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I said, if we're going to have people come in and do this, you guys cannot carry on like that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And my gelding laid down.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Right next to me.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: He had never done that before.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: He just laid down.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: at Equinuisity when you really open your heart, sitting with the horses is when they will lay down with you.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It's.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Probably the intention there.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It may have started very organically.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It probably did.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But it's a measure.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Horses are so much more intelligent than people give them credit for.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: They are so much more empathetic than people know.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And that's what I want to talk about.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I call this the quiet revolution.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Where.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I've talked to a lot of people who studied equine-assisted learning who read the Dao of Equis, who.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: However familiar with EAGALA.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: and.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: A lot of other people.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Opening up to different relationships with horses, something other than dominance.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Something other even then benevolent leadership.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Newer training methods.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Higher consciousness, relationships and they're possible.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And that's what I want to tell people and ask people and talk about.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And why, why is it easier for some people than others?
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And things that feed into that are.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Our clairvoyance.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And telepathic communication.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And even neurodivergence.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And so those are topics too.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I have a really special horse named Firefly.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She came to us as the last horse that summer, I had a husband who is a bit OCD and he had this idea to get horses.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And if he had all these horses, he could train them and.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: His family would come visit more because there'd be a horse for everybody to ride, or I don't know.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: The vision was something like that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I remember during that time, there were a lot of horses on the market because feed had become expensive and the economy wasn't that good.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And people even told stories of having to lock their horse trailers in our county when they went for rides at public places, because otherwise you come home, come back from a trail ride and somebody would have left an abandoned horse in your trailer.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Because I thought a fancy trailer could take better care of that horse and they could.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So there were free horses out there on Craigslist and lots of horse ads.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I blinked and we had six horses.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I kept wanting this one particular horse that I knew, the people that had raised her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And she was older.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And the husband at that time kept saying, we don't want a 19 year old horse.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That's too old and blah, blah, blah.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So finally, I got a text from.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Ah, the granddaughter of this, this woman who'd raised this horse who said, you know, Firefly.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Has been dropped in in the beginning of the summer, she was advertised for 1200 and now she was 200 and she came with a brand new blanket.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And the granddaughter was just terrified that this horse who'd belonged to her mother at one point was going to end up at the meat market.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: If somebody didn't go get her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So I said, okay, just go get her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Let's just go get her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So we went in.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: The original owner got on her and rode her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And she was a Fox Trotter and she remembered everything and she was sound and she was so happy to get in that trailer.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And we brought her home.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And she was my horse.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And we bonded right away.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I'd read this book by Moni Roberts, called life lessons with a ranch horse that just was magical and had this mystical relationship of this rancher who had this relationship with a horse who he learned to listen to because.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was a Bayer or it was a Cougar or the stream was washed something out or all of these things that this horse had known that or woven into this story.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And that's the horse I want, I want a horse like that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So one of the first times I was writing Firefly.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I'd been ridding this, other black horse who was younger.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She was an appendix, she was hire strong and something spooked.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Or you have to take her up off a hill, up a hill to calm her down, you know, and let her run it out a little bit.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So I kind of expected, I was a pretty novice writer.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I kind of expected this Firefly to be the same way.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So there was this cat hiding.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: In a culvert and there was a rock at the edge of the culvert to kind of mark it.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So you could see it from the road and.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I said, watch out, there's a cat in there.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: To the horse and she turned around and she looked at me.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And she put her head down and she knocked the rock.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was a sizable rock, the size of the horse's nose.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And she knocked that rock.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Right.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Into the culvert where the cat had been in, of course the cat jumped out and, and left and she turned around and looked at me again.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I swear in my head.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I heard her say, I don't like cats.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I thought, well, this is the kind of communication that book talked about.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: This is my horse.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: This is going to be wonderful.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I've had that horse now for 10 years and she's been retired for, for six.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She still helps out.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Every time, there's an interaction.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She is.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Truly amazing.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And wise and.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Supportive.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She's one of the most supportive people in my life and she's not a person.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That's the kind of relationship that people can have with horses.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Even when she's not being ridden, even though.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She's let me know a long time ago, her arthritis was too bad and it just, she's afraid she'll go down with, with a person on her back and she doesn't want to hurt anybody.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And it hurts her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I want people to know that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: If you have a horse and you have a problem.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Don't get rid of the horse.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It's an invitation.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: To look deeper into yourself and into the relationship, which is almost always a metaphor for something else.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I hope these are the kinds of things that interest people in this podcast.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: More things that happened with Firefly.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I've just got to tell you more.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I at one point, like I said, we had all of these horses.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And so there was one that this one horse who was well-trained, she was English.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Trained in English.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She belonged to this boarding.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: School.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And she was a character because they told us a story.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: When we, when we brought her home that.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: They thought some of the kids at the boarding school had been letting the horses out of the barn, opening the doors and letting them out.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So they put up a camera.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And what they found is that this particular horse, we ended up calling her gingerbread.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: was doing, was she was letting just the horses she liked, I guess there were a couple horses she didn't like, and she would let her friends out at night and they would all get out to the pasture.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: get out of the barn and it wasn't the kids at the school at all.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: It was this horse who'd figured out how to lip the lock.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Anyways, there was something about gingerbread.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Nobody really wanted to ride her anymore.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I don't think she really wanted to be ridden anymore.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She was older too.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But I remember.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Feeling bad, we'd go on these trail rides and we just leave her there.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Like, she'd be the only horse then she'd get all anxious and upset and pace because she was only one left there and everybody else was off at the branch riding.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: One day.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I had this idea, at least I thought it was my idea at the time.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Now I know it was Firefly.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But the idea was this, just open the gate and let her come with us.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I thought, well, that could be problematic.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: No, it'll be okay.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So we opened the gate and she came with us just like the dogs came with us on the trail.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Ride.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And when she got distracted by grass and fell behind, we just kind of whistled like we did for the dogs and call her by name and she'd catch up.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: The ranch was perimeter fence.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So she wasn't going to get off anywhere.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But she always stayed with the group.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: At the time.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I really wasn't that aware that I would have never had that idea.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I know it was Firefly suggesting that she come at what we call at Liberty.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Well, this led into a very natural consequence later on, especially after Firefly was retired she wouldgo for rides.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: With the adept point, there were three or four horses.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I would get on one and she wasn't trained very well.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Like I'd spent a year on the ground with this horse had been mistreated when I got her because somebody decided they wanted a horse and they knew absolutely nothing.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I don't know what they did to her, but she was terrified of ropes and she checked out and she would just like, Freeze.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: But a year on the ground, developing a relationship with her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: She started to trust and I could eventually ride her.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That husband had just gotten himself a horse, a horse that he really liked, like he'd had gotten all the other horses.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Right.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: So, but this horse was a cow horse that was trained in bread.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And it was the first day we were riding.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I was at a point where I wanted to teach this horse that I had.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Sipsy.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: That I'm up here.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Like don't run me under branches.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Don't run me into trees on the side.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: I want you to be aware of how tall I am on your back.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And to be careful of me, that was my intention.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I was very clear about my intention because my, my trainer was teaching me about intention and how horses can read intention.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And there's actually this whole thing that Dominic Barbara and Dr.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: Katz Manis talk about in there in their book.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: About how you can have an intention in the front of your head or the back of your head.
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  Samson Q2U Microphone: And if you keep it in the front of your head, That the horses can read it.
• 16:36
  Samson Q2U Microphone: It is a form of telepathy.
• 16:40
  Samson Q2U Microphone: I had this clear intention.
• 16:42
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And he was on his horse and there were two other horses at Liberty and we were all at this pond getting a drink while the people weren't, but the horses were.
• 16:52
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And suddenly Firefly looked at me and said, okay, let's go.
• 16:58
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And she turned around and we went up this trail that I'd hiked on, but I'd never ridden on it because it was a very narrow little deer trail with lots of branches and trees.
• 17:07
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And things to navigate an obstacles and it led to the top of the knoll so she took off up the hill,at a trot and PI followed Firefly and Sipsy followed PI.
• 17:22
  Samson Q2U Microphone: So I'm third in line.
• 17:24
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And, of course.
• 17:26
  Samson Q2U Microphone: The husband and, and his brand new horse who really wasn't that experienced on a lot of trails were following us.
• 17:32
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And he was a little freaked out, not really wanting to go along with all this, but did.
• 17:38
  Samson Q2U Microphone: We wove in and out of trees and madrones that were curled over.
• 17:44
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And twigs and everything, and nothing came within an inch of me.
• 17:48
  Samson Q2U Microphone: I got close but nothing got within an inch of me and I was just riding in a bareback pad.
• 17:56
  Samson Q2U Microphone: We got to the top of that Knoll.
• 17:57
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And I realized that Firefly had shown me that I didn't need to teach Sipsy and train her.
• 18:04
  Samson Q2U Microphone: All I had to do was have the intention.
• 18:09
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And that was an incredible moment in the beginning of.
• 18:13
  Samson Q2U Microphone: Where we did several co-created rides.
• 18:15
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And even though Firefly was retired.
• 18:18
  Samson Q2U Microphone: She loved to lead us on these trail rides.
• 18:21
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And they often had a theme, like let's go visit all the water spots on the ranch.
• 18:25
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And they even showed me a couple of, of wet places where I might've been able to dig for another spring.
• 18:31
  Samson Q2U Microphone: Lit I didn't know about.
• 18:33
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And that's all with intention.
• 18:41
  Samson Q2U Microphone: I believe.
• 18:43
  Samson Q2U Microphone: That these interactions are possible for most people.
• 18:46
  Samson Q2U Microphone: If we slow down.
• 18:48
  Samson Q2U Microphone: Www the horse human connection.
• 18:51
  Samson Q2U Microphone: We offer events.
• 18:52
  Samson Q2U Microphone: I offer trainings mostly on the ground.
• 18:57
  Samson Q2U Microphone: And horse sitting.
• 18:59
  Samson Q2U Microphone: Where we come in, we just be with the horses and sometimes different, magical things will happen.
• 19:06
  Samson Q2U Microphone: Anyways.
• 19:07
  Samson Q2U Microphone: Thanks for listening.