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Speaking of this episode, today we are here to discuss a game
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that we've already talked about, although not in this form.
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So coming in at, I actually looked this up.
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So coming in at #577 on the open critic list.
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Gosh. Metal Gear Solid Delta Snake
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Eater with a score of 85 S Pretty decent score, but it just
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goes to show how competitive that top of the list is.
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So I was interested to see some of the games that are above this
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and. Literally every other game isn't
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it it seems seems. Like all other 576 games ever
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made were above this. 1. So that's right.
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Yeah. So without further ado, what is
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Delta Snake Eater? What is the difference between
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this and the original Snake Eater?
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It's, it's a remake, isn't it, of Metal Gear Solid 3, Snake
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Eater? They've kind of rebuilt it from
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the ground up to some extent. There'd been talks of Konami
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doing a remake of MGS 3 probably for about 10 years, probably
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more, because I remember it was around 2015, sixteen, that you
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were seeing those YouTube videos with the updated graphics on the
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pachinko machines in Japan. Yeah.
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And people were kind of getting a bit hype then.
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And obviously the last real Metal Gear Solid game that was
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released was The Phantom Pain MGS 5.
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There has been Metal Gear Survivor since then, but I don't
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think people really count that. Metal Gear Survivor released in
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2018, so we've. Yeah, I've not played that
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hiatus. We did get the the remasters re
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released on the in various places since then.
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But yeah, yes, it's been All Quiet on the Western Front from
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Konami for a good long time. Really.
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Yeah, and they. Returned in good form I'd say,
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in the year 2020. 5 Realistically, they they needed
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to do something, didn't they? And I think that they've been
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really careful with MGS because really, I think it's very
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difficult to do an MGS game without the input from Hideo
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Kojima. And of course, Hideo Kojima
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famously left Kanami in around about 2015 when he went on to
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found his own studio after a big fallout with them.
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It is interesting that they've started.
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I'm assuming that they're going to do more remasters like this
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one, but it's interesting that they started with #3 But I
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imagine we'll come on to that, won't we?
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Yeah. So for the sake of the listener,
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what's your history broadly? I know I don't want to retread
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too much on what we touched on in the original episode.
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For any new listeners, go back and listen to that if you like.
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Yeah. So what's your history with the
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game and where did you play the game for the podcast today?
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So I think we both agreed that when we originally talked about
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Snake Eater, which was probably about three or four years ago
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now, neither of us were particularly happy with that
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episode. I think we went through a bit of
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a phase where we just kind of rattled off the story of the
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game and then just talked about a few game play mechanics.
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The Last of Us Part 1 was a was a victim of that as well.
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So it's nice that we get a new opportunity to talk about Snake
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Eater. The original Snake Eater came
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out in 2004, and I remember I didn't really follow games that
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heavily back in the early 2000s, but I remember seeing it in a
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magazine and seeing that it had already come out.
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And that was at the time when new games cost either between
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about 30 and 40 lbs and just trying to rack up enough money
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so I can get it. And I think you're the same as
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me. We've both played this game, the
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original to death. There isn't much that we don't
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know about MGS 3. It is probably, arguably, I'd
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say the strongest of the Metal Gear games really.
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So coming into this remake with Delta, I, I guess I had high
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hopes, but at the same time I wasn't on the hype train.
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I didn't really follow everything to do with this game
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up before release. Because for me, MGS 3 didn't
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really need remaking. I think.
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I think it's very good as it was, as long as you play the HD
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Collection version with the, you know, the movable camera,
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etcetera, but which is the subsistence version of NGS 3.
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But yeah, I've played this game, MGS 3, not Delta specifically,
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but I've played MGS 3 a lot over the past 22 years, and it's
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probably in my top ten, maybe even top five video games all
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time. So a remake of it was
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interesting. And I didn't go into it with the
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same kind of feelings that I had about going into the remake of
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Final Fantasy 7. I was a bit more, I don't know,
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kind of unbothered I would say is there's the correct term.
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But I played this on the PS-5 the the base model as I do not
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have the PS-5 Pro. So yes.
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What's your history and where did you play it?
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So I'm not going to go too much detail about the history.
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Basically what you said, very similar thing really.
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And all that detail is in the other episode for people to go
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in Peru if they would so like. But in terms of Delta Snake
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Eater, I too saw the basically the pachinko version was the cut
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scenes for MGS 3 in sort of PS3 S graphics and it looked really
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nice. It was same animation, but just
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these graphics that resembled MGS 4, which to this day still
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looks good. So I kind of got hyped about
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that time and then obviously they they announced Delta Snake
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Eater. As I say, it seems like Konami's
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woken up after about a decade of being in hibernation last year,
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throwing out Silent Hill two remake, which was also pretty
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good. Actually, I completed that last
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year and MGS 3D. So it's nice to see Konami back
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in some sort of form and I'm quite excited to see where they
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go from here because it's inevitable that this is not the
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end of the story for either series.
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Obviously we've just had Silent Hill F as well.
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Again, well received. I've got that game, but I've not
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played it yet. So yeah, an interesting time for
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Konami. They they suddenly realised that
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they were a game developer and they started developing games.
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So that was that was nice of them.
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I, I wasn't, I was sort of again, like you sort of hyped
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for this, but not not overly so. And I think actually the the
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release of this game was quite muted.
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Yeah, it was. I don't know if it, I don't know
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if it was because it was just a busy year last year, and I think
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it was a busy year, but it didn't feel like this landmark
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thing. It wasn't like when the Crash
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Bandicoot remake trilogy was released and everyone kind of
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went mad. It was a much more yeah, subdued
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affair, I'd say. So the version I played was the
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PS-5 Pro version, which is just a slightly enhanced version of
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the PS-5 version. It does look very, very nice.
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What I want to talk about, first of all, is the graphics.
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I want to jump straight into, I suppose the really big departure
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from the original game. What are your thoughts on the
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graphics? What do they do well?
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What don't they do well? What does it add to the game
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that is obviously a game from 2004 In your mind I.
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Again, like I said, I I don't really think that this remake
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needed to be made, to be honest. I think that MGS 3 still holds
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up. It is a very PS2 looking game
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when you play it, but I think that that lends itself and
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something that I think we might have touched on in the last
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episode if we didn't, I'm going to touch on it now is something
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that's Super Bunny Hop, which is a YouTube channel.
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I don't think we've referenced on here in a long time, but he
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did a full deep dive of MGS 3 about 10 years ago and he makes
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a reference of how campy MGS 3 is.
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And it's just like a silly spy thriller with a few serious
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elements kind of melded in there.
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And it's got, you know, elements of Bond and there's a lot of
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like tips of the hat to to Bond, etcetera.
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And I feel that the new graphics, they, they look
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incredible. I think it's running on.
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Unreal Engine. Five yeah, Unreal Engine 5.
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So it looks stunning. I mean, you and me have got some
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opinions on some of the faces, but it does look incredible.
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But I think in kind of remaking the graphics engine from the
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from the ground up, it kind of takes away a bit of the camp to
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the game. And yeah, it makes it feel more
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gritty. No, I'm not against it, but and
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it doesn't make the game feel different per SE, but it does it
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is noticeably kind of altered from the original.
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In my opinion. That isn't a bad.
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Thing Tone. Yeah.
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But yeah, the tone's different and it's very, very gritty.
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Very. I don't even know the word, but
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it it just feels changed. But in saying that, like the
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lighting in the game is incredible, some of the
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character designs, the foliage, the the areas that you are, it
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is mad. And I mean, something that we
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might have touched on. And the last time we talked
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about this game, it when I was going through playing, I was
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playing on normal. And when you got to the fight
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with the fear, oh, not the fear, sorry, the fury in the
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underground section with the guy with the flamethrower.
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I, I always forget how hard that fight is and I remember you and
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me playing it when we're at university.
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I think we're playing it on hard and we were just getting our
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asses kicked by that fight. Well, I played it on hard in the
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for the last episode, if you remember.
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Yeah. And I'll tell you that that
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fight was a pain in the. Yeah, solid, especially if
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you're trying to do it non lethal.
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Yeah, well, this is, and this is how I generally play, especially
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bosses, because obviously you unlock the camo if you do them
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non lethal, correct. So yeah, it is a it is a a
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trudge at first. I mean, jumping ahead at first
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when I got to the fury this time, I thought, oh, this is not
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too bad because obviously you'd warn me beforehand.
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It was solid. And then and then as the reader
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starts to fill up with fire and you just on fire, basically
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constantly eating through your life, you're like, I remember, I
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remember why this was annoying. Yeah, I mean, the the point I'm
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going to make with the Fury is frustrating, super frustrating.
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But that section just looks incredible with the fire.
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Oh yeah. And the light.
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Yeah. So overall the look of it looks
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superb. Like amazing.
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That's what I have to say about the graphics.
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Just different, but not a bad different, just different.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm sort of for it. And I think the campiness is
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still there. You're right, it's not as
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prominent. I think when you first played
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MGS 3 or when I first played MGS 3, the campiness was not what I
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focused on. No, the thing that hit me hard
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was the torture scene. And it felt like serious with
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funny moments, gritty Cold War spy thriller.
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And I think on subsequent playthroughs, when you when you
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see some of the stuff that's in there and some of the silliness
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and you've seen the cutscenes loads of times, so you're kind
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of focusing on different things, the campiness comes out a bit
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more. Whereas seeing it in these
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graphics kind of reverted it to that first time that I played
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it. And a good example of that is
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the torture scene. That was pretty hard hitting
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this time because of the new graphics.
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And it seems like they in the same way that they had all the
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way back there, it seems like they relished in creating this
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brutal, crunchy sort of torture scene.
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So I think it probably added to it and, and the other way I
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think it added to it was the plot itself, the story, which is
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why I've done this bit before the plot.
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I think having it in the new engine breathe new life in the
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store into the story for me. I've heard this story so many
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times. I've seen these cutscenes so
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many times. But because it was in a new
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engine and I wanted to see what it looked like, how they did
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certain things, what the effects look like at certain moments.
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So I was paying more attention and because I was paying more
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attention, I was digesting the story more and I was listening
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more. And it's almost like they
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tricked me into becoming reinvested in what can be a
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story that you turn off from because you've played it so many
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times. So and a good example of that is
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the in game stuff. I was kind of there all through
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it, but the the the moments where it goes off into like
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archival footage, I find it hard again to tune back in.
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When it's like the corner between President Johnson and
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Nikita Khrushchev and stuff at the start, yeah.
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Yeah, so it's kind of like it tricks me into being fully
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there, like for the first time all over again.
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The other wonderful thing about this graphical upgrade hit me
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about halfway through. I got to the top of the mountain
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after the very, very long ladder and I was messing around with
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first person play and third person play.
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And when I got out onto the like the, the dunes at the top of the
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mountain, I saw the the scorpions out there, I saw the
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wind blowing. I saw the background, which was
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more dynamic than it has ever been.
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And the thing that they add with this graphical overhaul is
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atmosphere. And when you go into first
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person, you're crawling across those dunes.
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It feels more real than it ever has.
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Like you can see everything. One of the things that that MGS
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3 does really well is each little area is like a
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self-contained ecosystem. And within that you've got
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different animals, different plants, lots to see and do, lots
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of things to collect. And it feels alive, but they've
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taken that alive feeling one step further.
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And then when I thought about it, I was, I never used to enjoy
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that, that mountaintop area. It was just like.
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I always quite like that bit. I don't mind the first bit of
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the first piece, but not where you go through the trenches and
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you've got the the the soldiers with like the flamethrowers and
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stuff. I'm not into that bit.
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But the bit before, yeah, I like that bit.
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I gained a new appreciation for that area, and I look back and I
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thought about the jungle areas and I thought, they've done this
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all through, like every area. If a video game is made to feed
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your imagination so that you feel like you're in a living,
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breathing world, they've taken what the original did.
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They've kept the structure, they've kept the boundaries that
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were in place in the original, but they've just suggested that
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the world beyond is more and that really enhanced this
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playthrough for me. So those jungle areas, as you'd
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agree, I think are more alive than ever.
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That the foliage, the little animations of the animals, which
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have changed very slightly, and it and the rain effects are
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better than they've ever been. That was one of the things that
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always annoyed me in the original was that the rain just
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was barely there. So yeah, it just felt like these
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ecosystems come to life. And last thing I want to touch
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on with the with the graphics is for the most part, they have
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kept all the original animations.
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And this is for the most part a really good thing because those
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animations really do hold up. And that was the thing that
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really excited me about the original at the time was how
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good the CQC looked and how well animated these cutscenes were.
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Now there's the occasional wonky moment.
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That still stays in the remake, but some of them have been
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ironed out a bit. So one of the things that I
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always thought looked wonky in the original was the bit where
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you're in the sidecar of the motorcycle and it just never
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looks quite right. It always just looks a bit janky
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and not fluid and jerky. Snake.
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'S too big for that sidecar. Yeah, whereas they've made use
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of motion blur and they've made use of cinematic camera angles,
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and that section looks smoother than it ever has.
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And I was kind of again, flicking between first person,
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third person cinematic view and yeah, it looks great.
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So the only side that I think is slightly let down by keeping the
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original animations is that the facial animation, it's quite
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static by today's standards. And I think we've grown to kind
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of expect a bit more and it looks a bit jarring when you see
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the level of detail on display elsewhere.
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Now, I I'm not saying that I wanted like a huge amount of
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facial animation because I think that would have gone against
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what the original game was and had, but it was just something
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that at times looked a bit. What do they call it when still
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when something? No, it'll come to me.
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So basically when when something looks jarring because everything
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else looks realistic. So the smallest thing can take
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you out, right? Yeah, it will come to me.
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So yeah, on the whole, a really impressive, lovely looking
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graphical makeover that for me at least, refreshed my
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experience of MGS 3. Now I'm going to give you, we're
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going to go back to something we used to do because we've done
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the story and the plot in the previous episode.
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I want you to give me an overview of the plot within one
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minute and then we can dive in a bit more into some of the
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particulars. So I'm actually going to time
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you. I'm going to give you one
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minute, starting now. So MGS 3 takes place in the
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1960s amid growing tensions between Russia and the USA.
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The story primarily result revolves around the protagonist
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called Naked Snake, who, if you've played the former games,
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is a younger version of Big Boss going through his first kind of
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big solo mission. Along the way, he gets betrayed
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by his mentor named the Boss. A nuclear missile is fired at a
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Russian facility, and the Kremlin basically orders that
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the Americans prove they didn't launch the nuke because it was
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launched by a bad guy called Colonel Volgin, a Russian.
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And as part of your mission, mission Snake has to kill the
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Boss, his mentor. So it's got a whole kind of
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country, Cold War, war vibe, but also a very personal element,
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too. Is that bang on a minute?
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Yeah, that was pretty good actually.
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Yeah, pretty good. There you go.
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Nice. So I think we're going to dive
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in a bit further. I'm going to I'm going to
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mention my my points that I've got written down and you add
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anything that you want to talk about as well.
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So some of the things again, because I kind of re digested
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this story this time and that was interesting.
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One thing I've always liked about Snake Eater in the same
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way as MGS 1 is it's a simpler, less convoluted affair.
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Now, probably taken on its own, it it's still probably a bit
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intimidating to someone new to the series, but for people that
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have been playing the series for years, this is simple.
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This is about as simple and elegant and stripped back and
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naked, so to speak. As the series gets.
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I see what you did, and it only gets more convoluted as we get
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on in. Yeah.
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I think the other thing is because we've got this Cold War
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setting, it feels historically adjacent and it feels a bit more
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grounded than the other entries in the MGS series, which kind of
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go off into sci-fi land very quickly.
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Yeah, exactly. I mean, you could, you can play
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MGS 1 and and by halfway you're like, OK, this is this is not
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the reality that I know, although it does start off quite
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grounded in MGS 1, and that's probably one of the other
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simpler affairs By MGS 2, it had grown into something that I
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don't think any of us do, as we've talked about back all the
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way back in the MGS 2 episode 5 years ago.
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Indeed. So episode I believe that was,
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Yeah. And I distinctly remember our
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section on Emmer Emerick, which we didn't actually go into too
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much detail. On on the United States of
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America. Yes, well, that is important
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that those are who funds us for this podcast.
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That's correct. The real.
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You might say. My third question, you can
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answer this if you want, is Vogue and stupid.
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Like, again, replaying this game, Yeah, seeing how many
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people around him, literally everyone is not on his side.
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Yeah. And he just doesn't realise,
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like everyone is playing him and the amount of things that
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happened throughout the story that you think, how did he not
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clock that? Like why does it take to the
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very end of the game to realise? I think that with Vogue in he is
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such like, I think they tried to give him some depth by saying
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you know about his background and the the philosopher's legacy
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and how really it's his by rights or whatever, which
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obviously isn't. But then you come back to the
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whole camp thing, and I think Volgen is the compassing of the
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entire game. Because one thing that sticks
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out to me is Volgen's captured Snake planting C4 on the fuel
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tanks of the shagger Hod, which for the listener is the big mech
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that you have to defeat at the end of the game.
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And he's got Snake, and he could just shoot him.
26:47
Like he could just kill him and he's like, ah, so you want me to
26:51
tell you about the philosopher's legacy?
26:53
Fine, I'll do that before I kill you.
26:56
Yeah, which is a James Bond nod. Yeah, absolutely.
27:00
And it's just like he feels like the biggest meme or the biggest
27:04
cartoon in the entire very two-dimensional.
27:07
Yeah. And I mean, there's an element
27:09
of that to Ocelots as well, because Ocelot is very much like
27:12
an anime character with his weird little meows and his yeah,
27:18
quirks. But yeah, it.
27:20
Does, but there is more to him as you find out by the end.
27:23
Absolutely. But no, Volgin feels like he's
27:26
there to be the, I'd say like he's the amalgamation of what
27:32
they want to portray as Russia, big and slow.
27:38
And that was the opinion of the US in the 1960s, wasn't it?
27:44
Is that like the Russia was behind like a step behind
27:48
everything that the USA did, but they were just burly and you
27:52
know, you shouldn't take them on head on in a fight because
27:54
they'll knock you out. Yeah.
27:57
Do you remember years ago we were watching Is it Deadliest
28:01
Warrior? Yeah, I remember that.
28:03
Yeah, yeah. The one where they have the and
28:04
it was the old weapons and they put them up against each.
28:07
Other, yeah. And it was like Spetsnaz versus
28:10
some, yes, some division of the US, Yeah, yeah.
28:12
Army, I think it was the Seals. Yeah, and, and the US guys by
28:19
the end said we were scared of those spetsnails.
28:22
Like they were just intimidating.
28:25
That was a great show that just disappeared.
28:27
It was as well. It was the the guy that played
28:30
Faramir in Lord of the Rings was the narrator, wasn't he?
28:33
We. Watched quite a few episodes of
28:34
that. Yeah, we did.
28:34
It was. A bit of a blast from the past
28:37
and listeners there. And and it's funny, like he he
28:42
says, oh, in that same cutscene he says Eva Tatiana, which
28:48
actually, I don't know why it took me so long, but Tatiana
28:51
being a reference to From Russia with Love.
28:55
Oh, right. Tatiana, Tanya, which is the the
28:58
name of the bomb girl in in From Russia with Love.
29:01
Again, probably me being reinvested in the story allowed
29:04
me to clock that. Yeah.
29:05
So he says, oh, we're going to kill her.
29:08
And then then the boss just marches her away and said I'll
29:11
take care of her. Yeah, don't worry about it.
29:12
I'll put this. No, no, we're just killer here
29:15
because why? Why are you walking her away?
29:19
It's just it just doesn't make sense.
29:22
Camp Another another thing that I sent you a message about.
29:29
I think I said this in the original episode, actually.
29:31
Why? Why?
29:32
Why did they feel the need to say that the boss was the first
29:36
astronaut? Like, yeah, it's nothing.
29:40
And it's just this weird moment and it's like, like what?
29:46
What's that about? I don't really get.
29:48
It it's because she's because she's badass.
29:51
That's what that is. If you're the first person in
29:53
space, you're badass. Not Buzz Aldrin is the boss.
29:57
And, and I thought they were going down some lines with the
30:00
like radioactive stuff, but they just do nothing with it.
30:03
They just say, oh, by the way, I was the first astronaut and I
30:07
viewed space from outside. And then I came back and I'm not
30:10
going to give you any more details about that secret
30:12
mission. Obviously it was off the record
30:14
because no one knows about it. But there you go.
30:17
That's me. It's just like a huge secret for
30:22
someone to have. And why wouldn't he know that?
30:24
Like, why wouldn't Jack Naked Snake know that?
30:27
Anyway? It's just such an odd thing to
30:29
throw up, throw in there in there, her final monologue
30:32
before she dies. Oh, by the way.
30:35
Just just so you know, space. I've always felt this and I
30:40
don't know what you think. The fury always seems out of
30:45
place in the Cobras. Yeah, he's the most grounded
30:49
one. Like the least weird one.
30:53
But he just, he feels like he was added later on because it's
30:56
like in that first cutscene when you see the Cobras, he is there
31:00
in the background if you glimpse hard enough, but he didn't say
31:03
anything and no one really mentions him outside of his
31:08
little section. It's just really strange.
31:10
And when you when you find out about him and his back story,
31:13
which actually I think is pretty cool, it's like it's really
31:19
different from theirs. And it's like, why would this
31:21
person be teeming with these people?
31:24
It just, it feels like, Oh well, we need another boss.
31:28
We'll Chuck this one in. He's also an astronaut.
31:31
He's not the first one though, no.
31:33
He's the Sapphire. That's actually how they met the
31:37
boss and the Fury. They actually met in space them.
31:41
Floating around in space. Yeah, they met on the precursor
31:43
to the the International Space Station.
31:45
That's what that was. My last point about the story,
31:50
and then I'm sure you've got a couple of points that you might
31:52
want to touch on, is despite the the astronaut thing, the boss's
31:58
back story where she talks about being with the Cobras, fighting
32:03
in World War 2, her history of the Sorrow, getting pregnant,
32:07
having the the child taken away, and then which?
32:11
Turns out to be naked. Snake.
32:13
Yeah, Yeah. So all of this stuff feels ripe.
32:18
Yeah. For a prequel if they were ever
32:21
to do. Yeah, I think we've talked about
32:23
that before, like a prequel. Plan.
32:24
Yeah, we did. Yeah.
32:27
And you could have, this is me just going with my imagination.
32:32
I don't think they'll ever do this, by the way, which is fine.
32:35
But you could have Naked Snake has a character in it, but you
32:39
don't play it. You could see him from a third
32:42
person perspective again. Like like a John Marston in Red
32:44
Dead Redemption 2, but with like a little.
32:46
Less involvement maybe, And I actually think a slightly
32:50
younger boss would be a great protagonist.
32:55
So. And because they never, they
32:58
touch on it enough that it's intriguing, but they never
33:01
really give you any of the details.
33:03
It's this sort of chapter that exists within the realm of Metal
33:06
Gear Solid that we never hear fleshed out, and that's
33:11
interesting. So yeah, that those are my
33:15
points on the story. Other than that, I think it's
33:18
quite a cohesive up and down narrative that works really.
33:24
Yeah, I mean, I think the story is the strongest parts of MGS 3.
33:30
However the gameplay is also maybe not right up there with
33:37
it, but it's it's a close second.
33:41
But I think I agree with you, a prequel for the boss would be
33:46
interesting, particularly more information about the Sorrow
33:52
because you know, there's the you can find all this
33:55
information out if you play with the the radio and talk to
33:59
paramedic in the major quite often.
34:02
But it's like one of the little Easter eggs.
34:03
I love. I loved it in the original.
34:05
You know, it's cool that it's there is when you've got your
34:09
arm broken, you've been thrown off the bridge at the start of
34:11
the game during a virtuous mission.
34:12
You've got to cure yourself. You move the camera around.
34:14
You can actually see the corpse of the sorrow from when the boss
34:18
took him out four years before, or whenever it was.
34:23
But yeah, I mean, it isn't the tightest story of all time, is
34:27
it? It's, But I don't think it's
34:29
meant to be. And they haven't really touched
34:32
the story at all in this game. It is just a gameplay overhaul
34:36
and visuals, which is fine. Yeah, it's just changing the
34:39
engine, which, yeah, the story didn't need changing, and I'm
34:44
glad they didn't. Yeah, I agree.
34:46
And it's the fact that in this game you can still tackle any
34:49
particular area in 17 different ways if you want to.
34:53
You know, it's the fact before you fight Ocelot for the first
34:56
time, towards the beginning, you go past a little base, it's got
35:00
a helicopter in there. If you blow that helicopter up,
35:02
that helicopter won't show up when you're up in the mountains.
35:05
Stuff like that. I love it.
35:06
And taking out the end early. So instead of having a massive
35:10
sniper fight with him, you end up taking on an Ocelot unit.
35:14
And taking out Ocelot and causing a time paradox.
35:17
Yes, quiet. There's just so many cool
35:20
things. Yeah, in in this game.
35:23
There are, and they're all still there in in the remake, which is
35:28
cool. This was, I mean, we'll talk
35:31
about the remake elements in a bit more detail in a moment
35:35
probably. But this is a lovely, lovingly
35:37
made remake, and for that I like it.
35:41
And I and I agree, each area is like this little self-contained
35:45
playground full of, as I say, an ecosystem, but also full of
35:49
these enemy kind of dynamic patrol routes and a number of
35:54
ways that you can tackle them and a number of things that you
35:58
can play within the environment. This isn't the finest MGS
36:04
gameplay. It's surpassed by MGS 4 and 5,
36:10
but it's still pretty good with this they've made.
36:13
It it brings it back up, doesn't it?
36:15
Like the game play in this game is very similar to MGS 5, you
36:18
know, with adding things on the Crouch walk, etcetera, you know,
36:20
that kind of thing. Quality of life upgrades.
36:23
Yeah. And one of the other things that
36:25
I like is like when you're aiming, when you're on the
36:28
ground, like Snake will roll onto his side now and you.
36:32
It's just that fluidity again, that wasn't in the original
36:34
game. So I like that stuff.
36:36
I think that stuff doesn't take anything away, and in fact only
36:39
adds. It's, it's the, it's the case of
36:43
they didn't need to add stuff here because you, you look at, I
36:46
think we've talked about it before.
36:47
When you look at the, the twin Snakes, which is the remake of
36:50
MGS 1, which came out on the game cube.
36:53
That game was broken by the fact that you could, because it used
36:56
the same engine as MGS 2. The game was broken by the fact
37:00
that you could then go into first person and take out
37:04
whoever. Yeah, I agree with that.
37:06
I, I, I love that game and I've got a real fondness for it.
37:09
But yeah, you can, yeah, you can exploit certain parts of it.
37:13
Not all of it, but yeah, certain parts of it.
37:15
You can exploit it for sure. OK, so on to our ever present
37:22
featured gameplay is king. Is Metal Gear Solid 3D fun to
37:27
play? Yeah, of course it's it's the
37:29
same game as as what came out in 2004.
37:33
And and there were certainly times when I was playing it, I
37:35
was going back into areas or purposefully dying so I could do
37:38
those bits again. Like messing around with the I
37:40
think the area is called Deleno Vodno with the the bridge with
37:44
the the ropes and just messed about with that and cutting the
37:47
ropes. So stuff like that.
37:49
It's very replayable. It's almost got an element of
37:53
like Hitman to it where you can just try certain areas different
37:57
ways. So yeah, very fun to go back to
38:00
and very fun to play. And I'm assuming that you will
38:03
probably agree. I started playing this after you
38:06
obviously, and I've, I've just finished it on Friday.
38:09
I think I finished it and I was deliberately playing like a bit
38:16
of a cowboy, but not, not, not meaning I was going around
38:19
killing everyone, but I was just messing around and I would swing
38:23
from stealth to going around assassinating people and
38:27
everything in between just to, to to push the game and see what
38:31
I could do. So I had quite a fun playthrough
38:33
of it, really. Yeah, it's fun to play, without
38:36
a doubt. It's it's it's the game that you
38:38
remember, but with a new coat of paint.
38:42
How does this game compare to other remakes, recent remakes,
38:46
or any other remakes? Would you say is it more
38:49
successful, Less successful? What do you think?
38:52
Well, like you said, this game kind of went under the radar and
38:55
I've not really talked, heard many people talk about it either
38:58
since, whereas Silent Hill 2A load of people have talked about
39:03
that and how good that remake is.
39:06
And yeah, I mean, the only other remakes I can think of on the
39:09
top of my head, there aren't very many remakes these days.
39:12
It's more remasters, isn't it? Obviously you've got Final
39:16
Fantasy 7, you've got the remasters of The Last of Us,
39:21
you've got, like you say, the Crash and the same trilogy,
39:23
You've got the Spyro Reignited trilogy.
39:28
I don't think that you can call the recent Oblivion release a
39:31
remake. It's a remaster, so it's hard to
39:35
say. But I mean, it does everything
39:37
right in my opinion as to what people would want from a remake,
39:41
I think. I think enough time had passed
39:45
between the original and this that that lick of paint really
39:49
made a nice difference because there were times when the
39:53
original was showing its age a bit visually.
39:56
So it was it was the right time. And you feel like this coat of
40:01
paint will last another 20 years, which, yeah.
40:06
So they've done a good thing here.
40:09
So let's talk about the audio in every respect.
40:12
So the voice work, the music, the ambient sounds, all of it.
40:17
Let's lump it in here. Yeah, I mean, they, they updated
40:21
the, they got a lot of voice actors back I think, didn't
40:24
they? Well, it's it's all the same.
40:27
It's all the same audio from the original game.
40:29
Oh. Is it?
40:30
I thought that they'd, yeah. Have they just upscaled it then?
40:34
Yeah, they've just, they've just used probably higher quality.
40:37
OK, So it's exactly the same recording.
40:40
Yeah, I mean the it's the same as 2004 then just upgraded a
40:46
little bit, I suppose in terms of the quality.
40:49
And you know, like I think anyone who's an MGS fan would
40:53
agree that the voice of Snake is David Hayter.
40:57
It is in Keith. Sutherland I can't express
41:01
enough, and I know I have my moans in the MGS 5 episode.
41:06
I can't express enough how happy it made me feel in a game
41:12
released in 2025 to have David Hayter's voice as Snake.
41:16
Yeah. It's the only it's the only
41:22
correct choice for for that voice and I I don't know if if
41:26
Kajima had to fall out or something during MGS 5 or or.
41:29
Whatnot. I don't think they did.
41:31
He just, he always wanted to replace him, didn't they?
41:33
Yeah, we wanted a movie started in the house.
41:35
What? Kajima's like weird.
41:38
But no, the the voice acting still on point.
41:40
And the thing that I always find funny whenever I think I've
41:43
like, I've known this for years and years and years, but the
41:45
voice of the boss is the same voice for the news reader on
41:50
Family Guy, the woman. Yeah, I don't know why I find
41:54
that funny, but yeah, I think the the voice acting is
41:58
brilliant. And you know, big fan of.
42:01
The Little Mermaid. Oh, really?
42:04
Yeah, so, so the actress that played Eva, she went by a
42:10
pseudonym for MGS 3, which was Suzetta Minet, which was the
42:14
name of her dog, I think, which was Suzette Monet.
42:19
And it's the actress that played The Little Mermaid, I think in
42:22
the in the cartoons, maybe I'm not big on The Little Mermaid,
42:27
so I couldn't tell you much. But yeah, so famous actress they
42:31
got to play her. OK, interesting.
42:34
But yeah, like the voice acting still quality and the music
42:38
itself. I'm kind of lifting again from
42:40
what from George in the Super Bunny Hot video mentions, but he
42:45
talks a lot in that. I've not seen that video for a
42:47
few years, but he talks a lot about how the music in that
42:51
film, in that film, in that game is so perfectly designed because
42:56
it's Harry Gregson Williams that designed the did the music
42:59
design how it's. MGS 2 onwards.
43:02
Yes. How it's so perfectly designed
43:05
in line with the environment and what's going on is you know,
43:09
when you're in a section of caution after you've been
43:13
spotted and you know that they're looking for you, you've
43:15
got strings that are being plucked.
43:18
That would kind of the the the sound that the strings make kind
43:24
of suggest mischief or something going on that shouldn't be.
43:29
And it's just the music in this game is superb.
43:33
It always has been. And I'll always say that.
43:35
And I think MGS music in whole is always brilliant.
43:40
And then the I think. It was one of the first games to
43:42
really add a filmic quality to its music.
43:47
And then you've got the Foley of everything that's going on
43:49
around you in the jungle in, you know, the.
43:51
Amazing. Yeah, it is.
43:53
It is superb. So the the sound design is still
43:56
a a big tick. Yeah, One thing I was thinking
44:01
when I played it this time was how much silence there is.
44:04
Yeah. And, and this this is a
44:06
compliment by the way, I think especially in the setting that
44:11
you're in, building that atmosphere, hearing the crickets
44:16
and everything else in the jungle and just the occasional
44:19
silence that you have it, it's really powerful.
44:23
And when those music cues kick in, they mean something.
44:26
So when you finally hear that famous MGS soundtrack, the main
44:30
theme towards the end of the game, it means something and
44:34
it's earned. And I will never forget.
44:37
It's always stayed with me, like when when the theme comes in at
44:40
the end, when when State goes into the Oval Office and sees
44:45
President Johnson. Like, I love that.
44:47
It's just such a nice moment. And one thing that I think this
44:52
remake does is it really punctuates those moments, like
44:57
visually and with audio. So the stuff with the boss in
45:01
that field, it's more stunning than it's ever been.
45:04
Yeah. And it's just they've refined
45:08
that, they know what those powerful moments are and they've
45:10
really honed in on them and it's lovely.
45:14
What was your favourite camo? I to be fair when whenever I've
45:20
played it I always go with the camo that's best suited for the
45:24
the area. But if it was one way it didn't
45:26
really matter. I'd always go for the like the
45:30
green scrubs, like the just the normal green camo, you know with
45:37
the splitter face paint. Yeah, yeah, sorry.
45:40
I go for the splitter body and the splitter face paint where I
45:44
know that there's a cool cutscene coming up because he
45:47
looks like something from Predator and it's just cool.
45:49
Yeah, I mean, because I because I pre-ordered it, I mean, I
45:52
completed this back in December, so I've not played it for a
45:56
while, but I got some of the pre-order yeah, I mean perks.
46:00
So like I've got like the gold, the gold camo and something
46:07
else. I can't remember what it is.
46:08
And then there's the tuxedo and stuff as well.
46:10
The white tuxedo, Yeah. So yeah.
46:13
Homage to. Bond, obviously, and that's
46:16
actually a homage to your wedding suit, I believe.
46:19
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it is.
46:21
So it was obviously a nod to Bond in Goldfinger, and there's
46:26
a lot of love for Bond in particularly MGS 3.
46:30
But there's also that famous thing that when, when in MGS 2,
46:39
so when Big Boss takes his his, his mask off, he's supposed to
46:43
look exactly like Sean Connery. That was what he was written to
46:47
look. Like, oh, solid a snake.
46:48
Obviously, yeah, yeah, obviously an older, an older Sean Connery.
46:52
Yeah, OK, Yeah. So there is, there's lots more
46:58
camo in there. There is the blobby camo.
47:00
There is the blobby camo which? Which is a nod to our podcast
47:04
of. Course that is correct.
47:06
Thank you. Yeah, Kojima World Order.
47:10
So OK, if you know, I've got a couple of questions on the
47:17
Question of the week. This is an interesting one.
47:22
Can a remake totally replace the original?
47:26
Can it make the original sort of null and void?
47:30
And it becomes the only option. Yes and no.
47:35
I think that for for people like you and me who love the original
47:42
and we're in our our mid 30s, then no you can't.
47:47
However, if you were suggesting someone that wanted to get into
47:52
the like, like I've said a few times, listener of the podcast
47:55
and friend of mine James, who I introduced to the MGS games in
48:01
around 20/15/2016 when when when we lived together.
48:05
He'd never played any of them before and he struggled because
48:08
they were quite aged. They were a bit dated by that
48:10
point, particularly MGS 1. If today he was like, oh I want
48:15
to play one of the MGS games, which one should I go for?
48:18
I said, well, if we are not going in canonical order, start
48:20
with MGS Delta because it will be the easiest for you to pick
48:24
up and play in line with what gamers are used to in terms of
48:28
control schemes, in terms of what they expect from games
48:30
these days. So for newcomers to this series
48:34
and newcomers to this game, then I'd say play the new one because
48:38
you're not losing anything by playing it.
48:40
It isn't different. The story's the same.
48:44
Whereas Final Fantasy 7 Remake I'd say play the original
48:49
because the story deviates. Different cases, isn't it?
48:52
Yeah. And same same with the Crash
48:55
Bandicoot games, I'd say play the new one because I mean it's
48:58
slightly harder than the originals but you're not losing
49:01
anything really other than nostalgic charm which these
49:04
people won't have because they weren't playing these games in
49:06
the 90s when they were bought out.
49:10
Yeah, yeah. Would you go back and play the
49:14
original now though? Yeah, yeah, 100%.
49:19
I mean a pain actually. No, it wouldn't be a pain in the
49:20
ass because that'd be a pain in the arse because I'd have to
49:22
sort my PS3 out, but I wouldn't. I'd just get the the newest HD
49:27
remake or whatever. So yeah, 100% like I'd probably
49:31
play the original over this one. Not because I didn't like it,
49:35
but just that's, that's my jam. You know, I'm used to that one
49:40
and I like it more. Things don't have to be new and
49:43
shiny to enjoy them. I wanted, I want to dig more
49:48
deeply into the remake because there's a lot of stuff in there.
49:52
There's a lot of additions, there's a lot of stuff to unlock
49:54
that I haven't done yet. So it's kind of awakened.
50:01
And don't get me wrong, I probably won't replay it
50:03
straight away like I did with MGS 3 when we did that for the
50:06
podcast, but I do want to jump back in.
50:11
And there, there was that urge because the secret theatre,
50:16
yeah, we talked about this before we recorded, like you
50:19
said. Oh, I wonder if that's in there.
50:21
And I said, surely not. Surely they won't.
50:23
But they have. Yeah, they've redone the secret
50:25
theatre. So all those ridiculous cut
50:29
scenes that we talked about in the original episode that are
50:32
really funny. Yeah.
50:33
Well, when we were sending it to each other back then, we were
50:36
like crying, weren't we? Because we were laughing so
50:37
much. Yeah, yeah, but they've done
50:39
them in the in the new graphics, like they're there and you can
50:43
get them. You've just got to unlock them.
50:45
And there's there's so much other stuff as well.
50:47
There's there's there's like the invisibility, stealth suit,
50:52
infinite ammo, bandana, all that stuff is in there for MGS
50:57
stalwart. So yeah.
51:02
OK, let's, let's let's go to our wrap up and we can we can dive a
51:07
little bit deeper on this. So is at 577 is Metal Gear Solid
51:16
Delta Snake Heater with a score of 85.
51:20
Is it one of the best games ever?
51:21
I can't say. Is it in the top 100 because
51:23
it's not technically this is a bonus game for the new year.
51:27
This was our New Year's episode, our New Year's celebration
51:30
bonanza. We hope it's done that for you.
51:33
Certainly done it for us, I say with a bit of sarcasm.
51:38
But there we go. I I don't think that it does it.
51:43
I mean, I can't remember where MGS 3 is.
51:46
I know that it's quite high up, but this doesn't replace MGS 3
51:51
on the list for me. I kind of see it as a
51:53
supplement, like if you liked this, then give this a go or if
51:57
you want to play that game, but you're a little bit worried
52:00
about that again from 20 years ago or 22 years ago.
52:02
It feels a bit archaic. Do this one.
52:05
You're not. There's not much difference, and
52:07
you can't have them sharing the same spot on the top 100 list.
52:10
So I kind of put them together, but I would say that #3 outranks
52:15
Delta. But maybe that's just from a
52:18
point of nostalgia because I like the original.
52:22
So would I say that 500 and something is the correct place
52:25
for it? I don't think so.
52:26
I'd say that it probably should be a bit higher than 500 and
52:28
something, but this isn't. This doesn't even feel like it's
52:32
a real release, it just kind of feels like it.
52:35
Yeah, partly because of that muted release as well, wasn't
52:38
it? Yeah, I think so.
52:41
So it's not in the correct place in my opinion.
52:43
But at the same time maybe it is because this is just a just a re
52:50
release of a game from 22 years ago, but it's put some makeup on
52:53
really. What do you reckon I was?
53:02
It took me a bit of time to get into it, as I say it really
53:07
clicked sort of up in the mountains and I was messing
53:11
around for quite a while with the end as well.
53:13
Brilliant boss. Bastard, I appreciate that
53:16
thought. In this version I do the
53:17
original. Yeah.
53:20
Again, it just feels really alive, that environment where
53:23
you fight him. Yeah.
53:26
So yeah. Whereas in the original, I feel
53:29
like it becomes a bit like I've done this before, like becomes a
53:33
bit rote. So again, it, it breathed life
53:36
into it. So once it did click and I sort
53:42
of realised what they were doing, which actually was quite
53:46
simple what they were doing. But once it just started to vibe
53:50
with me, I really thoroughly enjoyed it.
53:55
This is, I know it's a remake of one of my favourite games, but
53:59
this to me is A10 game like this is really, it doesn't get much
54:05
better than this for me personally.
54:08
And I think the stuff that they've brought to the table
54:13
have been positive additions. And as I say, for me, it
54:18
breathed new life into certain elements.
54:21
It made those environments feel more alive than they have ever
54:25
felt it. As I say, it allowed me to
54:31
breathe in that story like I hadn't done in probably quite a
54:34
long time and appreciate it. And because of that, I had a bit
54:39
of a moment with it. And I'm not saying that I'm
54:42
going to have that moment again every time I play it.
54:44
I'm not because, but it's the same moment that I had probably
54:48
when I played the original, maybe not quite as good as that
54:50
original moment, but it's up there.
54:53
And for me that makes it pretty special because those moments
54:59
for me in games are few and far between now.
55:01
It doesn't happen very often. I agree like the I will say I
55:05
had like the biggest grin on my face booting the game up for the
55:09
first time and seeing Snake do the Halo jump part of the the
55:12
aircraft in the opening courtesy and I was like like madness is
55:15
so cool. Although my nitpicky brain did
55:22
did immediately think he's just throwing his cigar on the floor.
55:25
The doors opened and then it's taken about 15 seconds for the
55:29
extreme amount of wind that will be going in there to make the
55:31
cigar move. And then he stands on it and I
55:33
was like, I hate being an adult. Why have I noticed that?
55:37
Well, that again is like that. So the phrase I was thinking of
55:41
earlier uncanny valley, where things look so realistic that
55:45
the smallest thing that doesn't stands out like a sore thumb.
55:50
And and there is a bit of that in this game.
55:51
It's like when you're when you're outside Granin's factory,
55:57
the dogs, the way that the light shines on them, they look a bit
56:00
shiny. And I thought, oh, that doesn't
56:01
look great. Yeah, like, it it those things
56:05
stand out more because everything else looks so good.
56:08
But yeah, so I, I had a moment with this.
56:11
I can understand why Konami went to this one first because I'm
56:18
I'm trying to avoid saying Kojima because I think actually
56:23
it dismisses all the work from everyone else.
56:27
He left 11. This game exactly, and it wasn't
56:30
a one man production. Yes, he's got his fingerprints
56:33
all over it, but there are so many other Eurges.
56:36
And Carl? Yeah, exactly that that you see
56:40
in almost every MGS game credit sequence.
56:45
But he gets overshadowed. Input into this game.
56:49
It's not just a Kajima game, it's it's an MGS game by
56:55
Foxhound Studios. And so I think it's their finest
57:01
hour, not his their finest hour. And I hope I'm not against
57:08
seeing another MGS game. I think it's been long enough.
57:11
I I don't think it disturbs that original lot of MGS games.
57:15
No, it will be a new cycle. Yeah, and This is why focusing
57:19
on a different character could work, stepping away from that
57:25
Solid Snake story or that Naked Snake story.
57:30
And I hope it's given them the confidence to do that, because
57:34
they did deliver on this one. Like they delivered more than
57:37
anyone really thought they would.
57:39
They did exactly what they set out to do, and they achieved it.
57:43
So I think it's the finest hour and I can see why they picked
57:46
this one. I think I'd be interested to see
57:49
if they would do MGS 2 after this, because MGS 1 obviously
57:57
had the Twin Snakes remake. MGS 2 sort of been untouched
58:01
since. Yeah, subsistence or substance.
58:04
Sorry. And I feel like it could do with
58:08
a bit of an overhaul really. And I'm still waiting for that
58:13
remaster of MGS 4. I was thinking about this
58:16
structurally. I feel like MGS 1 and MGS 2 are
58:21
sister games like. Yeah, and then MGS 3 plays like
58:26
it's on his own, as does 4. Ah, but I but I think MGS 4 and
58:29
MGS 3 are sister games because I feel like I feel like MGS 2
58:35
plays on some of the things and your expectations from one.
58:39
Yeah, of course. And I feel like MGS 4 does that
58:42
with three. There's a lot of anti war stuff
58:46
here and there's a lot of things that are said in MGS 3 about the
58:49
climate of war and how humans are destined to kind of go from
58:53
one war to the other. Yeah, something.
58:55
Like MGS 4 is the realisation of that.
58:57
Friends can become enemies as fast as the wind changes or
59:00
whatever, which, to be fair, time of recording in late
59:04
January 2026 feels very prominent.
59:09
Yeah, and and I feel like MGS 4 took that idea and created a
59:14
game where we had these proxy wars.
59:17
It was the natural conclusion of MGS 3.
59:20
So I see them as one and two assists to games, 3 or 4 assists
59:24
to games and five, just as the yeah, a very strange thing.
59:30
And do do go and listen to that episode because we do have some
59:33
thoughts on it. Obviously gameplay wise.
59:35
Great if you if you want a cutscene where Snake is in the
59:39
back of a Jeep with Skullface. That's the that's a great.
59:46
Yeah, yeah. I don't think this is the best
59:49
MGS in terms of gameplay. I think that goes to four or
59:54
five. I'd say five.
59:55
Reason. I think I'm torn, and I'll tell
1:00:01
you why. Because Four has the curated
1:00:04
little playground environments that, yeah, all the other games
1:00:09
had. And you've got that skill set
1:00:11
within them and they're slightly larger, whereas 5 goes full open
1:00:14
world. And because of that, I sometimes
1:00:16
think it loses a bit of direction.
1:00:19
So I feel like 4 is a more curated, directed version of
1:00:23
that gameplay, whereas 5 is let's take all the barriers away
1:00:28
and see what the player does, which in a way is liberating.
1:00:33
But at times I like that more curated approach.
1:00:36
And replaying this reminded me of that.
1:00:38
OK, that. So for me, I think it does
1:00:44
deserve to be up there. And I'm not saying that it
1:00:51
replaces that original game in terms of the effect that that
1:00:55
had on me, but what it did do was remind me of the feeling
1:01:01
that I have playing the original game and the love that I have
1:01:05
for that game. And as I say, moments are few
1:01:09
and far between these days. So I'll take that.
1:01:12
And I kind of appreciate that. And I don't know if it replaces
1:01:19
it, but I will say that I'll probably go back to this one
1:01:23
sooner than the original. Yes.
1:01:26
And that's a win in my eyes. Yeah, of course it is.
1:01:30
That makes. Sense.
1:01:30
So yeah, I'll I'll leave my thoughts there.
1:01:33
I think. Yeah, set at the table.
1:01:36
Yep. So what do we have coming up
1:01:40
next for the avid listener? We have a slightly shorter game
1:01:45
next time, which some of you may be glad to hear won't take us as
1:01:49
long. I imagine a couple of weeks.
1:01:51
We're playing a game relatively recent game came out a year or
1:01:55
two ago on every system called Bolottro, which I kind of
1:02:02
stumbled upon when I got my gaming PC.
1:02:06
So I had three months free of Xbox Game Pass PC version.
1:02:10
And I kind of heard people talk about it like on the gym,
1:02:14
Inquisition and a few other places.
1:02:16
So I tried it out and I became hooked instantly.
1:02:19
And funnily enough, I found another game that's very similar
1:02:22
to it called Clover Pit, which I've been playing on Steam.
1:02:26
Very, very addicting. And yeah, is good.
1:02:32
I think you'll be an interesting episode.
1:02:33
Have you started it at all? No, so I've downloaded it on my
1:02:37
Switch to I'm away this week for work as I am for the next month.
1:02:43
Really not not completely away all the time, but I'm away for
1:02:46
at least two nights per week. So yes, I will give that a good
1:02:50
run around there. So we're going to do 2 shorter
1:02:53
games and one bigger game in the background and hopefully get
1:02:58
those out to you within the next.
1:03:00
Sort of, yeah. That was a long.
1:03:02
Month. A couple of months, yeah, yeah,
1:03:04
whatever it is, yeah. So yeah, that'll be next time.
1:03:06
Bilotro should be an interesting episode.
1:03:10
As always, if you like this episode, you know, we always
1:03:12
appreciate a a comment, a like or a share the the usual calls
1:03:16
to action. And yeah, if you want to get in
1:03:20
touch with this with a long shortofitpodcast@hotmail.com or
1:03:24
we are on Instagram. But yeah, that's pretty much
1:03:28
everything from me today. Is there anything?
1:03:30
And a final question from me, we said a few times in the lead up
1:03:34
to this this episode about that original episode and, and not
1:03:39
having done it justice. What's your thoughts today?
1:03:42
And I've got my own thoughts, but yeah.
1:03:44
I feel that we've done the MGS 3 universe justice this time
1:03:51
because we just weren't barrelling off out of the story.
1:03:54
I feel that we've been a bit more balanced, which I'm glad
1:03:57
about. Yeah, I feel like this is a nice
1:04:00
companion piece for that original episode.
1:04:02
And if you take them both, we probably covered most of it.
1:04:07
Probably not for some people, but yeah, for us at least.
1:04:10
So yeah, I thought we did all right.
1:04:11
No, I agree. So yeah, on on to the next one.
1:04:15
Hopefully it will be also a very good episode.
1:04:17
Gives a round of applause. Yes, please.
1:04:21
Please clap. As Jeb Bush once famously said,
1:04:25
yes. But yeah, we will see you in
1:04:29
probably a couple of weeks for Blot Trope, but in the meantime,
1:04:31
take care, Cheerio. See you on the next one.