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118. Lady Mary Grey · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: You're listening to you an Airwave Media podcast. Hello delicious friends,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Who Died What Now? The history podcast
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Speaker 1: That's not Your History Class with me your host Katie Charlwood,
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Speaker 1: History Harlotte and reader of books. Speaking of books, I
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Speaker 1: this color is fine, but I like is better, and
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really exciting. If you are listening
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Speaker 1: to this on day of release, I am in Dublin.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, quit
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Speaker 1: your gibbel jabbel in fact me, in fact you, I will.
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Speaker 1: But first we've got to get our source on l
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Speaker 1: sources are intrigue and treason. The Tutor Court by David Loads,
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Speaker 1: Bloody Mary by Carole Ericsson, The Sisters who would be
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Speaker 1: Queen Mary, Catherine and Lady Jane Gray A Turer Tragedy
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Speaker 1: by Leander Delisle. Lady Jane Gray by Hester Chapman, the
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Speaker 1: Anne berleyn Files, and of course our old favorites History
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Speaker 1: dot com and biography dot com. I use it in
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Speaker 1: comfortably good. Then let's begin. So where are we last
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Speaker 1: left off was the tragic, tragic end of Lady Katherine Gray.
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Speaker 1: So you all know I wanted to talk about the
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Speaker 1: Gray sists, and it was originally going to be like
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Speaker 1: a Patreon situation, but with my Lady Jane being canceled
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Speaker 1: on Prime because apparently Apple is the only place to
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Speaker 1: go now if you want to have at least like
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Speaker 1: a full season or two happen. Yeah, unless you're making
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Speaker 1: Emily in Paris, which honestly don't know the names of
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Speaker 1: any of the characters apart from Sophie. I know Sophie
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Speaker 1: because she is amazing and I love her, but I
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Speaker 1: know nothing else. Don't know what happened in the plot
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Speaker 1: last year. Will I watch one hundred other seasons of
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Speaker 1: it because it's pure escapism and means nothing as fucking Lily.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, where we left off are gonna give you
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Speaker 1: some cliff notes, I guess to where we are right now.
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Speaker 1: So Henry the eighth, he's married to Catherine part at
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Speaker 1: this point, it is fifteen forty five ish and Lady
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Speaker 1: Mary Gray. She is the third of the Gray sistels,
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Speaker 1: born to Francis Brandon, Mary Tutor's daughter, and Henry Gray.
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Speaker 1: I keep wanting to call him Arthur for some reason,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know why. But yet she's the youngest.
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Speaker 1: So Jane is eight years older than her, and then
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Speaker 1: Catherine is five years older than her, So like, that's
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Speaker 1: a pretty large age gap. I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: it is from them trying, I would assume to pro
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Speaker 1: create more, but pregnancy in Tudor era is not great.
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Speaker 1: They had this whole like shutting end situation which is
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Speaker 1: really not healthy. And as we know, the number one
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Speaker 1: cause of death for women is men, but the number
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Speaker 1: two cause of death for women is childbirth. So also yes,
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Speaker 1: So when Mary is born, he's married to Catherine Parr.
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Speaker 1: And you know, luckily, you know she's already got an
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Speaker 1: older sister call so called Katherine, so she's not called that.
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Speaker 1: She's probably named after her grandmother as a mark of
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Speaker 1: respect or the person who they think is going to
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Speaker 1: be the next female like closest to the throne. So
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Speaker 1: Henry he's married Catherine Parr. Two years later he dies,
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Speaker 1: we shame off. He goes. Now Edward, Edward the sex Edward,
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Speaker 1: he the boy king, ascends the throne. Edward is the
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Speaker 1: only child and only legitimate male heir, with his wife
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Speaker 1: Jane Seymour, the only queen he loved enough, mainly because
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Speaker 1: she didn't live long enough to you know, cause him
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Speaker 1: any problems. Effectively, she didn't have time to piss him off.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, he has her immortalized in his mind. And
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Speaker 1: Edward is the only legitimate male heir, and so he's
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Speaker 1: the next person to the throne. Now, the way the
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Speaker 1: line of succession worked is he had written Mary, who
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Speaker 1: was Katherine of Arragon's daughter, and Elizabeth, who is Anne
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Speaker 1: Boleyn's daughter, back into the line of succession, so he's
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Speaker 1: got them in it. He had written out Margaret Tudor,
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Speaker 1: his other sister. He'd written out her line because they
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Speaker 1: went to Scotland and he was like no, and so
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Speaker 1: he's like, none of them, thank you, completely buggered that out. Mary. However,
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Speaker 1: Mary's line He's like, yes, fabulous, wonderful. They are involved.
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Speaker 1: So super so Edward as he was just an arsel,
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Speaker 1: but he was brought up with terrible advisors who had
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Speaker 1: their own interests. He was just skeezy men. He was
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Speaker 1: being advised by a lot of skeezy sort, a lot
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Speaker 1: of skeezy men, and so he ended up making terrible
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Speaker 1: decisions because he was raised in a very particular way,
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Speaker 1: and so naturally he doesn't want a Catholic on the throne.
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Speaker 1: And he can't put Elizabeth in the line of succession
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Speaker 1: if Mary isn't because of the way they had all
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Speaker 1: been legitimized. And so he names lady Jane Way his cousin,
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Speaker 1: as his heir. Now, the Gray sisters anyway, because they
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Speaker 1: were cousins of the king, like they were already close
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Speaker 1: to the throne, and they were perfect bargaining chips for
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Speaker 1: alliances and to have that proximity to the crown like
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Speaker 1: they were there for that, and so they were useful
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Speaker 1: to sort of marry anyway. However, however, yeah, yeah, so
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Speaker 1: she's young. He's on the throne now, Mary Mary Gray,
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Speaker 1: who we are talking about today, as far as I
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Speaker 1: can tell, she had a form of Dwarfism, just from
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Speaker 1: the way in which she is described throughout her life. Now,
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Speaker 1: the Gray Sisters in general are not tall people, even
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Speaker 1: for the standard of the time. They're known for being
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Speaker 1: short in stature. But the way that Mary is discussed
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Speaker 1: she is, it's pointed out how short she is and
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Speaker 1: the way that her features are mentioned, so it appears
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Speaker 1: that she was a dwarf, you know, and that is
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Speaker 1: the correct term. I've been informed several times. I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna use any derogatory terminology because I don't believe in it.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, so she was very very short, and so
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Speaker 1: many people felt the need to point this out. So
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Speaker 1: that's what she looks like. But otherwise she's got your
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Speaker 1: typical Tutor features, the hair, the eyes, very much clearly
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Speaker 1: part of the Tudor family. But for some reason, whenever
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Speaker 1: they're portrayed, like in a sort of visual medium, they're
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Speaker 1: usually presented as brunettes for some reason, I don't know why.
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Speaker 1: Like they're all strawberry blondes, like they're all sort of
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Speaker 1: reddish tones, and yet they're ever gonna make them all brunette. No,
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Speaker 1: they all look at that. That's the point. So Mary,
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Speaker 1: like her sisters, she is raised in a very Protestant household,
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Speaker 1: so they get taught religion, they get taught humanities sort
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Speaker 1: of everything that sort of Henry the eighth pushed as
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Speaker 1: an education. So they also learned languages and music and
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Speaker 1: embroidery obviously because all lady learned embroidery. But music was
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Speaker 1: so important to the Tudor court, like it was such
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Speaker 1: a massive part of it, like they just had to
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Speaker 1: learn it. And they learned like sort of basic science
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Speaker 1: as well, just just enough, you know, so, or just
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Speaker 1: as much as they were willing to teach women at
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Speaker 1: the time. But yeah, so they had a very typical
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Speaker 1: like Tudor education, especially for a family that was in
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Speaker 1: such close proximity to the crime. And of course when
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Speaker 1: Jane is named Edward's Air like their status has elevated
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Speaker 1: even higher. And so when she's seven, she catches some
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Speaker 1: kind of illness I don't know, some Tudor sickness, the
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Speaker 1: lungy of whatever, and it's so bad that it almost
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Speaker 1: kills her. But I don't know what it is with
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Speaker 1: these gray women. They survive some serious hardships, Like I mean,
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Speaker 1: Jane didn't exactly die of natural causes, did she. AnyWho?
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Speaker 1: Mary holmost dies defies all odds and survives because of
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Speaker 1: course she does, absolutely and then she is betrothed the
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Speaker 1: following year to her cousin Arthur Gray, and around about
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Speaker 1: this time as well, like Jane and Catherine, they get
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Speaker 1: married off from this double marriage, you know, because everyone
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Speaker 1: wants to be connected to them, because if you marry
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Speaker 1: the women, you have control over the women and therefore
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Speaker 1: controlled over the crown. Like I think that's their idea here.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, she's eight years old and betrothed. Now, even
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Speaker 1: even in this period, being married at that age weird
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Speaker 1: and creepy. Now, young marriage is not normal. They're not normal.
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Speaker 1: They're not typical of the era. And I had someone
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Speaker 1: like complain a few weeks ago that I was judging
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Speaker 1: it from a modern SI standaled. No no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: even during this time period, they found it creepy as fuck. Okay,
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Speaker 1: read contemporary accounts from people. People thought child marriages were weird,
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Speaker 1: like as a general consensus. And Arthur Gray, like I
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Speaker 1: I in my head for many years assumed Arthur Gray
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Speaker 1: was just like, oh, a cousin, he must be roughly
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Speaker 1: the same age. No, no, no, no, no, this man
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Speaker 1: was middle aged. He was a middle aged man who hmmm,
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Speaker 1: he was injured because like a pike went through his mouth.
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Speaker 1: It's a whole situation and I wonder if because of
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Speaker 1: the way that Mary looked, that perhaps this betrothal happened
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Speaker 1: because they thought, well, she ain't gonna get any better,
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Speaker 1: even though even though people are fickle as fuck, but
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Speaker 1: even though she was so close to the crowd, I mean,
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Speaker 1: she has the third sister, so she is quite far
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Speaker 1: away from it. So like eh, But also there's this
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Speaker 1: whole superstition, that, the whole weird religious thing that if
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Speaker 1: somebody has any abnormality, for example, if they are paralyzed,
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Speaker 1: if they have a disfigurement, if they are a dwarf,
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Speaker 1: for example, that these differences are caused by God or
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Speaker 1: by evil or like all this kind of stuff. Like
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Speaker 1: there's just these weird, superstitious assumptions about it. Anyway, I
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Speaker 1: don't believe in it. I think it's awful and I
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Speaker 1: think it's horrific. But the past is the past, and
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Speaker 1: people believe stupid things. That being said, somebody in the
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Speaker 1: last few years tried to cure autism with bleach, so
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Speaker 1: I feel like stupidity hasn't gone away quite just yet. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: Edward dies, Jenni sends the throne. She's there for nine days,
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Speaker 1: and then Mary Tudor comes in and it's like mm
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Speaker 1: mmm mmm mmmm, that's my seat. And Jane she was
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Speaker 1: just a prisoner. She didn't want to be queen anyway,
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Speaker 1: and things would have been fined. They probably would have
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Speaker 1: found a way to, you know, get rid of her
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Speaker 1: in a non murder scenario. But then their father, Mary
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Speaker 1: Catherine and Jane's he decides he's gonna like start a
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Speaker 1: rebellion against the queen, which, in a scale of zero
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Speaker 1: to invading Russia in the winter is a stupid fucking idea. Naturally,
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Speaker 1: marriages were annulled. The betrothal for Mary and Arthur called
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Speaker 1: off because everyone's like, no, no, no, we don't want
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Speaker 1: to be associated with these social pariahs anymore. So they
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Speaker 1: don't want to be connected with that. So Francis, being
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Speaker 1: the smart one she is, that's their mother in case
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Speaker 1: you've forgotten, she's like, oh, we're totally Catholic. Now, look
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Speaker 1: at us doing our hail Mary's in counting our rose
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Speaker 1: reads Hell Mary's and also hell Mary, yay, long live
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Speaker 1: the Queen. So Catherine she sort of accepted into Mary's court,
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Speaker 1: and so she's off doing that. Meanwhile, Francis marries this
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Speaker 1: lowborn dude Adrian Stark, and so I think we discussed
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Speaker 1: this in the last episode, where it was basically a
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Speaker 1: way of her saying, oh, no more high born children
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Speaker 1: for me, no more access to the royal line. Everything
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Speaker 1: is safe. Has a again, God save the Queen, and
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Speaker 1: so she scarpers off. Honestly, I think she just didn't
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Speaker 1: want any more kids anyway. So eh, off they go,
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Speaker 1: and I think Mary goes along with her because when
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Speaker 1: she marries someone lower class you have to like leave court,
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Speaker 1: and so Mary goes along with her because you know,
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Speaker 1: she's ten years old and as such has to leave court.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Francis gets married, leaves court, takes Mary with
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Speaker 1: her because she's ten, and so off she goes with
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Speaker 1: her mum. Now, I think the Gray sisters were treated
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Speaker 1: relatively well at court by Mary as a power move.
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Speaker 1: If nothing else, it was to show that she wasn't
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Speaker 1: going to make tear apart or bring instability to the nobility.
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Speaker 1: I think by the time that Mary leaves court with
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Speaker 1: Francis and her husband Adrian, it's it's going to be
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Speaker 1: tough because she's ten years old and she's already seen
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Speaker 1: her older sister who she may have not been that
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Speaker 1: close to because like that's a pretty big age gap
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Speaker 1: when your kids. But like her sister and her father
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Speaker 1: were executed by royal decree. That's that's going to shake
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Speaker 1: things up for you, Abe, But I think that's going
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Speaker 1: to leave some trauma. But yeah, ten years old leaves court.
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Speaker 1: Not much information for the next three years. But when
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Speaker 1: she's thirteen, Queen Mary the First passes away and Queen
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth the First takes over. So one year after that,
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Speaker 1: Francis dies, meaning she's only like fourteen at this point,
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Speaker 1: and she is one of the chief mourners at mother's funeral.
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Speaker 1: She's one of the people who guard the coffin sort
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Speaker 1: of the twenty four hours before the funeral. She's one
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Speaker 1: of those, which I'm sure was a fun thing to
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Speaker 1: do at fourteen. So when her mom passes away, Mary
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Speaker 1: has like a tiny bit of inheritance left by her mum.
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Speaker 1: So she was smart enough to like grasp as much
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Speaker 1: as she could, you know, even though the family was
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Speaker 1: in you know, a huge disgrace and everything else that happened.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of her estate and everything like that
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Speaker 1: had been left to her husband, and so there's a
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Speaker 1: little bit left over like for Catherine and for Mary.
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Speaker 1: So Elizabeth she is on the throne at this point.
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Speaker 1: Mary's got just enough to towe her over, and she
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Speaker 1: is the second in line to the throne at this point,
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Speaker 1: because after Elizabeth, you've got Catherine, who everyone just calls
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Speaker 1: like a younger, horror version of her. She's just like
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Speaker 1: a prettier version of Elizabeth allegedly, so she's there, and
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Speaker 1: then after her it's Mary. So officially, officially in the
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Speaker 1: line of succession, these two are next. And because of
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Speaker 1: the way that Elizabeth was you know, came into the world,
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Speaker 1: the whole Anglance situation, some people felt like she shouldn't
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Speaker 1: be queen and they wanted to, I don't know, you
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Speaker 1: sup her throne and they thought maybe the Gray Girls
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Speaker 1: would be a good way to do it, which not
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Speaker 1: a smart thing to do. But so these two are
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Speaker 1: her official heirs. And when she is like freshly crowned,
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Speaker 1: she is paranoid as hell, and she has every right
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Speaker 1: to be because people are like consistently, you know, plotting
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Speaker 1: against her. But there's you know, the divine right of kings, queens, whatever,
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Speaker 1: and so there are a lot of people on her side.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, she's she's suspicious all the time. Now, Elizabeth
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Speaker 1: wasn't an idiot, she was very smart. She was raised
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Speaker 1: by Catherine Parr, she was raised by Anne of Cleaves,
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Speaker 1: like these were very clever women, so she knew when
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Speaker 1: to show her hand and when not to so like officially,
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Speaker 1: these two are the next in line, like before she
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Speaker 1: writes any official sort of thing. And so the two girls,
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Speaker 1: they are brought in to be ladies in waiting for her,
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Speaker 1: because she's smart enough to not rock the boat with this.
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Speaker 1: And so the good thing is for these two because
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Speaker 1: they're scrimping just to lauaye inheritance they've got from Francis's passing,
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Speaker 1: and becoming ladies in waiting brings them like a wage,
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Speaker 1: like they have money at this point. They're earning just
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Speaker 1: by having this position. And for the first time in
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Speaker 1: a long long time, Mary is actually able to treat
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Speaker 1: herself to some nice stuff, like she's able to dress
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Speaker 1: better like Queen Elizabeth loved fashion, she loved style, she
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Speaker 1: loved outfits. It's to ken rely ate that actually she
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Speaker 1: seemed to have got that from him, I think. But
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Speaker 1: it's always interesting when you think about the coronation, because
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Speaker 1: she wore Mary's coronation gown when she was crowned, and
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Speaker 1: I think she did this to just reinforce her legitimacy
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Speaker 1: and the line of succession and that a queen could
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Speaker 1: be king. No, a queen could roll, you know. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: So Mary's there, She's like really happy to be there.
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Speaker 1: She's like more excited about this, and Catherine is, as
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Speaker 1: we know, being a bit sassy it like causing causing issues,
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Speaker 1: which again not a smart thing to do, not a
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Speaker 1: smart thing to it. But Mary's there, she's quite happy,
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Speaker 1: and she's what fifteen at this point now being the
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Speaker 1: queen's subjects being you know, ladies and waiting like in
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Speaker 1: order for them to marry, they need permission of the
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Speaker 1: regent and so regnant of the regnant. Apologies, so wait
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Speaker 1: regent regnant God damnit my brain. That of the ruling person, right,
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Speaker 1: the king or queen. And so Catherine she gets secretly
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Speaker 1: married to ned Seymour because that family can't cause enough problems,
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Speaker 1: and that becomes a whole issue. Elizabeth tries to declare
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Speaker 1: the marriage like invalid, but then Catherine has a son
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Speaker 1: who's declared legitimate, and then they have another son. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and so because they had stated the fact that they
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Speaker 1: want to get married, because being betrothed effectively back in
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Speaker 1: this time was just as good as being married, like
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Speaker 1: it was a thing. It was what you did. The
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Speaker 1: rest of it was paperwork. So if you did happen
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Speaker 1: to bink during that time, absolutely fine, because God says,
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Speaker 1: it's oh okay. So, because they had stated that they
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Speaker 1: wanted to get married and everyone had heard that, and
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Speaker 1: then they had a second child when they were locked
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Speaker 1: in jail together, that officially made this boy, Thomas, the
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Speaker 1: next male heir to the throne. And this is this
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Speaker 1: is again a patriarchal society and the Tudor, so of
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Speaker 1: course they're like, so this cause a bit of an
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Speaker 1: issue for Elizabeth specifically because again she is unwed and
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Speaker 1: she does not have any else and it was very
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Speaker 1: easy to use her in propaganda because here she is,
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Speaker 1: she's married, she has two heirs, she should be next
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Speaker 1: in line for the throne. And then you've got Elizabeth
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Speaker 1: who was a childless woman, and they're just like, oh,
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Speaker 1: she can't do that. Meanwhile, Mary's just there because on
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Speaker 1: one side you've got Catherine Gray and she is gorgeous.
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Speaker 1: She is like the epitome of like turor beauty. She's
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Speaker 1: got the strawbery blonde hair, she's got the striking blue eyes,
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Speaker 1: she's gorgeous. You have Mary, Queen of Scott's lest we forget,
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Speaker 1: who is like six feet tall and allegedly also gorgeous.
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Speaker 1: Like these two women are there, and then you've got
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Speaker 1: Mary who Spanish ambassador who is an absolute prick called
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Speaker 1: her crooked back and what was it? Very ugly? Like so, sir,
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Speaker 1: I will not take this Mary grace lander like how horrible.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people are still horrible nowadays, but like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I hope you get the flu, sir, the flu. But yes,
23:14
Speaker 1: Mary's just there, and she's not really seen as much
23:19
Speaker 1: of a threat in any capacity because mainly because she's
23:25
Speaker 1: so physically different from those around hers, so they don't
23:29
Speaker 1: see her as like this legitimate threat, and also because
23:33
Speaker 1: she's not really causing any waves until of course she was,
23:41
Speaker 1: which I think is a good time to get a
23:42
Speaker 1: word from our sponsors. Mary Gray is twenty years old
23:52
Speaker 1: and she meets one mister Thomas Keayes so Keyes was
23:58
Speaker 1: a forty something year old sergeant porter in the court.
24:04
Speaker 1: So effectively he was the guy who would like jump
24:07
Speaker 1: in if people were getting too rowdy and they were
24:09
Speaker 1: causing a commotion and like fights were breaking out, like
24:12
Speaker 1: he would just stop it because he is strong and
24:17
Speaker 1: imposing and incredibly trustworthy. Like he is like I don't
24:24
Speaker 1: want to see like a bodyguard, but like kind of
24:27
Speaker 1: like a bodyguard for the queen, but also just there
24:30
Speaker 1: to stop any shit from happening, like a cop of
24:33
Speaker 1: the court if the cops actually did the jobs. But yeah,
24:36
Speaker 1: he is a very imposing man. He is strong. He
24:40
Speaker 1: is six foot eight. I don't care who you are.
24:45
Speaker 1: That is that is too tall. That is too tall.
24:47
Speaker 1: I have a friend who is six foot seven, and
24:49
Speaker 1: I keep joking that we need to like cut off
24:51
Speaker 1: his shins and sew his knees to his feet because
24:53
Speaker 1: he's just too tall. It's too tall. Like it's difficult
24:57
Speaker 1: to talk to him. I have to crack my neck
24:58
Speaker 1: all the way up. It's very old for me. So
25:01
Speaker 1: twenty year old Mary is courted by by Thomas Keyes
25:06
Speaker 1: because like she's a lady in waiting, he's the sergeant porter.
25:09
Speaker 1: They're crossing paths all the time. Like I think he
25:12
Speaker 1: was married before. I'm assuming death happened to the previous wife.
25:16
Speaker 1: But he's got like a bunch of kids, Like there's
25:18
Speaker 1: a whole situation. But he's at court and he starts
25:21
Speaker 1: courting her, and this is like the courtly game of love.
25:24
Speaker 1: Like he's doing it legit. There's like tokens of affection.
25:29
Speaker 1: There's gifts. I'm assuming some poetry is involved. Maybe maybe
25:33
Speaker 1: he wrote the poetry himself, maybe he got someone else
25:36
Speaker 1: to write it, like letters are exchanged, like stuff happens.
25:40
Speaker 1: And Mary not really used to this kind of attention,
25:45
Speaker 1: like from anyone, But I think it's more than that,
25:49
Speaker 1: Like she's genuinely flattered by it, and she's she was
25:51
Speaker 1: a bit taken by by Thomas Keyes. So let's bring
25:55
Speaker 1: some context back into this a wee bit. So Mary's
25:58
Speaker 1: older sister Catherine had been jailed because she married without
26:03
Speaker 1: the queen's consent. Her mother, Francis, had managed to marry
26:09
Speaker 1: someone lowborn, so someone below her status, thus removing herself
26:14
Speaker 1: from the line of succession and out with the firing range.
26:17
Speaker 1: Basically target is off her back. So if Mary was
26:23
Speaker 1: to marry the sergeant Porter that is a much lower
26:26
Speaker 1: rank than her and could possibly just remove her from
26:31
Speaker 1: that same like firing range, like just move her down
26:34
Speaker 1: a couple of notches and sort of protect her. So
26:38
Speaker 1: she probably thought this would be a good idea and
26:40
Speaker 1: she can marry she can be safe and also stay
26:44
Speaker 1: on Elizabeth's good side. Meanwhile, Mary goitda Scott's is I mean,
26:49
Speaker 1: she's a thorn in Elizabeth's side, causing commotions, trying to
26:53
Speaker 1: steal the throne. Yerry yaa YadA. And because Mary, Queen
26:57
Speaker 1: of Scotts was not yet married at this point, Elizabeth
27:00
Speaker 1: was hoping to marry her to Robert Dudley because yeah,
27:05
Speaker 1: it's her favorite. Then she would have that control. Like
27:09
Speaker 1: she thought, this is a great idea, but Mary was
27:11
Speaker 1: not for having it. She marries Lord Darnley, who you
27:15
Speaker 1: may remember from the episode The Mysterious Murder No, The
27:21
Speaker 1: Mysterious Death of Lord Darnley, Scotland's oldest cold case. Sorry,
27:27
Speaker 1: as something got caught in my throat. I think the
27:30
Speaker 1: Poland is messing with me, Like there's stuff on the
27:32
Speaker 1: trees and it's been a real pain. So anyway, Elizabeth
27:35
Speaker 1: is busy doing a bunch of stuff and somehow, in
27:38
Speaker 1: a crazy random happens dance, Mary forgets somehow to ask
27:43
Speaker 1: for permission to get married, and so just decides to
27:49
Speaker 1: get married like the Elope, like the Elope, like that
27:53
Speaker 1: they saw what happened to Catherine, they saw this, like
27:56
Speaker 1: everyone is aware of what happened to Catherine. Great and
27:58
Speaker 1: yet she's like, uh huh for a game of soldiers,
28:01
Speaker 1: let's do it, and they just a lope, like, what
28:05
Speaker 1: is what is wrong with you? Mary? Seriously? Did you
28:08
Speaker 1: not look around at the situation and think, huh, maybe
28:11
Speaker 1: this might not be the wisest idea? But no, but yes,
28:16
Speaker 1: instead of waiting for like a decent time and planning
28:19
Speaker 1: this appropriately, they just say to wait till Elizabeth is
28:22
Speaker 1: going to another wedding. But she's going to another wedding
28:25
Speaker 1: with a bunch of her courtiers, and so this is
28:29
Speaker 1: the perfect time to do this. But on the sixteenth
28:32
Speaker 1: of July sixteen fifty six, Mary Gray decides to have
28:36
Speaker 1: a dinner with three of her lovely cousins, Margaret Willoughby,
28:41
Speaker 1: the two daughters of Lady Stanford, and a servant girl
28:46
Speaker 1: named Francis Goldwell. Now, she didn't want anybody like who
28:50
Speaker 1: was too high in status being a witness for the wedding,
28:53
Speaker 1: because she didn't want to get them in like trouble,
28:55
Speaker 1: which I think is a very sweet thing to do.
28:58
Speaker 1: But she wanted to have enough witnesses for her wedding
29:01
Speaker 1: to ensure that it was legitimate because the issue with
29:05
Speaker 1: the whole Ned Seymour and Catherine Gray wedding was that
29:09
Speaker 1: it was only Ned's sister Jane who was the witness,
29:14
Speaker 1: and then Jane died, so they didn't have the evidence
29:18
Speaker 1: of that. So she gets this little group together to
29:21
Speaker 1: be witnesses for her wedding. Thomas Keyes manages to like
29:25
Speaker 1: get a few people as well, so there was like
29:27
Speaker 1: eleven guests in total to this wedding, so there's enough
29:31
Speaker 1: people to witness it, but not like witness it too
29:34
Speaker 1: much lest again they get in trouble because they don't
29:37
Speaker 1: want to get people beheaded, because Elizabeth was a bit
29:40
Speaker 1: more hearty with that than people think she was. Like
29:44
Speaker 1: there's this assumption that bloody Mary as she's called, was
29:47
Speaker 1: like this big, ruthless, consistent murderer when Elizabeth killed a
29:52
Speaker 1: bunch of people too, Like it's not it's not just one,
29:55
Speaker 1: like they were all beheading people at this point. So
29:59
Speaker 1: Mary Gray and Thomas Keys they get married, they have
30:02
Speaker 1: a banquet, there's a feast, everything's great, and then for
30:04
Speaker 1: like the next what nine ten days, everything is fabulous,
30:08
Speaker 1: married Bliss probably boinking all the time and I'm sorry,
30:13
Speaker 1: she's so small and he's so large, like there's mmmm
30:18
Speaker 1: mmmm oh no, oh well maybe maybe he just has
30:22
Speaker 1: a small Oh oh no, what if this is like
30:27
Speaker 1: a cucumber and a coin pass situation oofed? Oh oh,
30:32
Speaker 1: that's how you get a uti oofed. Now after those
30:36
Speaker 1: ten days of wedded Bliss, Well, how about this? Mary
30:42
Speaker 1: Queen of Scott's causes a commotion because she marries Lord Darnley,
30:46
Speaker 1: who is objectively just an awful human being, and she
30:51
Speaker 1: ends up writing to like Elizabeth going not going to
30:55
Speaker 1: invade if you name me your heir, which is again
30:58
Speaker 1: such a stupid thing to do. So this this has got,
31:00
Speaker 1: you know, the hackles up on Elizabeth. So at this point,
31:05
Speaker 1: Elizabeth doesn't want to name Mary Queina Scott's her heir because,
31:09
Speaker 1: like just the court wouldn't allow it. Like her advisors,
31:12
Speaker 1: they were not for this because they all preferred like
31:15
Speaker 1: Catherine Gray to Mary Queen of Scott's at this point,
31:18
Speaker 1: especially because Mary Queen of Scott's was raised in France,
31:21
Speaker 1: to be a French princess, so like she didn't have
31:23
Speaker 1: like an English connection anyway. So this led to Elizabeth
31:29
Speaker 1: not being a super big fan of the Gray Sistils
31:31
Speaker 1: at this point. And then the rumor mill sort of
31:35
Speaker 1: swirls around and she finally finds out that the Sergeant Porter,
31:41
Speaker 1: the dude of the court, has married Mary Gray secretly
31:48
Speaker 1: when she was away. Naturally, Elizabeth is pissed and she's
31:54
Speaker 1: like mm mm mmm. And she's learned her lesson before
31:57
Speaker 1: with you know, Catherine Gray and ned Seymour, and so
31:59
Speaker 1: she she sends Keys and maybe Gray two separate prisons. Again,
32:04
Speaker 1: she has learned her lesson, and so the servant girl,
32:09
Speaker 1: Francis Goldwell, gets taken to the queen and they're just like,
32:15
Speaker 1: what did you do with this trees and this thing?
32:18
Speaker 1: Were you at this awful event? And she was like
32:20
Speaker 1: what she plays dumb and I love this for her.
32:25
Speaker 1: She's like she asks, like she had no idea what
32:27
Speaker 1: was going on. She was like, well, people were there
32:29
Speaker 1: when they were just standing, I don't know, I didn't
32:31
Speaker 1: realize it was a wedding. Like she just totally plays
32:34
Speaker 1: off like whatever, And luckily Lady Howard who's her lady.
32:40
Speaker 1: She's like she is a simpleton. Of course she didn't understand,
32:45
Speaker 1: and so there's this whole thing. She manages to like
32:50
Speaker 1: get away with it, like she saves her neck specifically
32:54
Speaker 1: because she acted like she was just an idiot. Fabulous, Francis,
33:00
Speaker 1: you love another Day. Ten points for you, Francis. I
33:04
Speaker 1: love Francis Goldwell, love us so much, like I love
33:07
Speaker 1: the fact that she's pretending to be an idiot just
33:09
Speaker 1: to get by. It's like it's like when Alice of
33:14
Speaker 1: Battenberg has the Nazis like raising her house and she's
33:18
Speaker 1: like what and death and she really leans into it
33:24
Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
33:27
Speaker 1: I love it, while like dropping ash on his shoes.
33:32
Speaker 1: So yeah, Francis Goldwell loves to talk another day. Well,
33:36
Speaker 1: Francis managed to like get away with it. Thomas Keyes
33:39
Speaker 1: was not so successful. So he's the Sergeant Porter, Like
33:45
Speaker 1: his whole point is being like loyal and trustworthy and
33:48
Speaker 1: just like being the guy. So when you secretly marry
33:52
Speaker 1: you know, the Queen's cousin against the Queen's well, yeah,
33:59
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal. And so they put him
34:02
Speaker 1: into a prison called fleet and he's in solid you
34:06
Speaker 1: can find it. Heeds this in tiny whe cell because
34:09
Speaker 1: they want to punish him as much as possible because
34:12
Speaker 1: he's six foot eight. I'm like, he's all smoohed in,
34:17
Speaker 1: like he's stuck in this tiny whee cell. He's not
34:18
Speaker 1: allowed to go walking, you can't stretch his legs. Like
34:21
Speaker 1: that's uncomfortable the best times for like a regular sized human.
34:25
Speaker 1: He's six foot eight. The man is practically a giant,
34:28
Speaker 1: like Andre the Giant, like because he's like he's not
34:31
Speaker 1: a skinny, scrawny man, because he's a strong soldier person,
34:35
Speaker 1: you know. And and he's you know, he's crunched up
34:40
Speaker 1: in this we sell and naturally he's like he agrees.
34:44
Speaker 1: He's like, if there's an annulment, I'll take it, no worries,
34:47
Speaker 1: because you know, he's in the court. He saw what
34:50
Speaker 1: happened to Catherine like and and ned, and he's like, no, no,
34:55
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Meanwhile, Mary, she's over in this country
34:59
Speaker 1: house checkers and Hawtrey is the guy who lives there,
35:03
Speaker 1: and he's an old family friend. But like she's not
35:06
Speaker 1: supposed to like send or received letters. She's like a
35:10
Speaker 1: little like a little bit of walking outside, but like
35:13
Speaker 1: there's this whole all these rules that they have to
35:15
Speaker 1: follow to like keep her in check, you know. And
35:19
Speaker 1: remember at this point, Catherine Gray is also like imprisoned
35:24
Speaker 1: like somewhere in England. Now, Mary, even though she's not
35:29
Speaker 1: supposed to send him received letters, she sends a couple
35:31
Speaker 1: of letters trying to trying to just get out effectively,
35:38
Speaker 1: and she sends them all Mary Gray. She doesn't sign
35:40
Speaker 1: them Mary Keys, because she's like, what marriage what now? Unfortunately,
35:48
Speaker 1: because she was smart enough to ensure that there was
35:50
Speaker 1: a fuck ton of witnesses to protect her marriage claim,
35:54
Speaker 1: there was a fuck ton of witnesses to ensure the
35:58
Speaker 1: marriage claim. The people had seen the marriage were they
36:03
Speaker 1: witnessed it, and then also they knew the marriage was consummated,
36:06
Speaker 1: so you know, like there was very much clear that
36:10
Speaker 1: this had happened and that there was no grounds to
36:12
Speaker 1: like dissolve the marriage. So after one year of being
36:16
Speaker 1: in the Fleet prison, this new jailer comes in and
36:19
Speaker 1: he is an absolute shit duck back. So Thomas Keys
36:24
Speaker 1: he'd been like trying to like hunt birds with the
36:26
Speaker 1: waistling shot he'd made so that he could like eat
36:29
Speaker 1: at least some decent food, but this new jailer was
36:32
Speaker 1: like not allowed to do that, and so they give
36:35
Speaker 1: him like rotten meat, like at one point they even
36:40
Speaker 1: like drop it in like poison like and other stuff
36:44
Speaker 1: like they're like actively trying to kill him. And news
36:48
Speaker 1: of this is somehow getting back to Mary and she's
36:51
Speaker 1: like this is not good. I don't like this. And
36:53
Speaker 1: so Mary Grey, she's like trying, she's like trying to
36:56
Speaker 1: get him out, and Elizabeth is just like not moving.
36:59
Speaker 1: She's not a chance done. But she does move Mary
37:04
Speaker 1: from being checkers to being with Catherine Willoughby, who was
37:08
Speaker 1: like Mary's step grandmother, and so she's going to go
37:13
Speaker 1: live with her, and Katherine Willoughby's just like told that
37:16
Speaker 1: Mary's gonna come stay with her, and then when Mary
37:19
Speaker 1: shows up, she's genuinely shocked because she's sort of scrubby
37:23
Speaker 1: and stuff, like she doesn't have like nice attire or
37:26
Speaker 1: any belongings, you know, and she's like, well, I was
37:30
Speaker 1: sort of in prison and because of this, yeah, yeah, yeah,
37:32
Speaker 1: And she used to be like sort of opinionated and
37:36
Speaker 1: she was just full of gumption and excitement, and Catherine
37:40
Speaker 1: was like, this is weird. And then Mary just goes
37:45
Speaker 1: through this like depression and she's not eating, like the
37:50
Speaker 1: same thing that Katherine Gray did. It's just like not
37:52
Speaker 1: eating out of depression, just like starving herself. And like
37:56
Speaker 1: Queen Mary the first, like she did the same thing.
37:58
Speaker 1: They would just like not eat and she's just not
38:03
Speaker 1: doing well. And like Katherin Mulliby is like writing to
38:06
Speaker 1: everybody saying that this is happening. And Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth,
38:10
Speaker 1: she is kind of counting on this because meanwhile, in
38:14
Speaker 1: a move that surprises absolutely no one, Mary, Queen of Scott's,
38:18
Speaker 1: her husband again dies in a mysterious accident, and then
38:22
Speaker 1: she marries this awful dude who may or may not
38:28
Speaker 1: have killed her husband and also may or may not
38:30
Speaker 1: have kidnapped her and forced a marriage upon her, Like
38:33
Speaker 1: those are things that may have happened, and this is
38:36
Speaker 1: a whole situation, and she really wants to be the
38:38
Speaker 1: heir and Elizabeth's like maybe, but also she wants to
38:43
Speaker 1: be in a position where Mary Gray cannot like cause
38:47
Speaker 1: a scene in rally people behind her, and so she
38:50
Speaker 1: wants to keep her down. And so Katherin Mullyby, like
38:53
Speaker 1: her kids are in their teens Peregrine and Bertie, I
38:57
Speaker 1: think they are, and they're hoping that this is like
39:00
Speaker 1: boost Mary's spirits up, but she's she's not really having it,
39:04
Speaker 1: but Catherine's trying to do it. And so Elizabeth doesn't
39:10
Speaker 1: want Mary's spirits to be lifted in any capacity, and
39:13
Speaker 1: so she removes her from Catherine Willoughby's household, and so
39:17
Speaker 1: she gets chucked into another country house, another house arrest,
39:22
Speaker 1: mansion arrest, castle arrest, one of those with the Greshams
39:25
Speaker 1: Thomas and Anne. Now Thomas Gresham quite happy to have
39:31
Speaker 1: Mary there. He was in a considerable amount of pain
39:35
Speaker 1: because he broke his leg. It wasn't set properly, and
39:37
Speaker 1: he was just like inconsistent agony all the time, and
39:40
Speaker 1: he was also visually impaired as well. And an Anne
39:47
Speaker 1: did not like Mary being there, apart from the fact
39:49
Speaker 1: that whoever like hosted, and I say that generously, however hosted,
39:55
Speaker 1: Mary had to pay for her stuff, right because Elizabeth
40:00
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be He wasn't gonna be paying for that
40:02
Speaker 1: because why would she. She just like sets the whole
40:05
Speaker 1: situation and lets it happen, and Anne ends up calling
40:10
Speaker 1: Mary was like the heart and sorrow of her life
40:15
Speaker 1: because she like can't go places because she has to
40:19
Speaker 1: stay and look after Mary. Luckily, the Greshams are like
40:23
Speaker 1: rich enough to cover the cost of stuff, but and
40:25
Speaker 1: still ain't keen on that though, And so because Anne
40:30
Speaker 1: and Mary aren't getting along because Anne is just mad
40:33
Speaker 1: that she's there like the couple, so Thomas nan their
40:37
Speaker 1: marriage is like worsening for it, and so they write
40:41
Speaker 1: to try and get Mary sent away, and it takes
40:45
Speaker 1: a while for this to happen. Meanwhile, Thomas Keyes doesn't
40:48
Speaker 1: die from poisoned meat and is finally released from jail
40:53
Speaker 1: and manages to get a job in Kent basically doing
40:58
Speaker 1: soldiery security stuff. Like his kids from his first marriage,
41:03
Speaker 1: like they were abound this area, so he's near them,
41:05
Speaker 1: so he probably has that kind of support. And he
41:08
Speaker 1: writes to the queen and he writes to sort of
41:10
Speaker 1: counsel trying to get permission to visit Mary, I mean,
41:15
Speaker 1: who he hasn't seen in four years, granted, but he
41:18
Speaker 1: still considers her his wife, probably because she is legally
41:22
Speaker 1: his wife and Elizabeth is just like no computer says no.
41:28
Speaker 1: This may have been due to the fact that Catherine
41:30
Speaker 1: Gray had passed away, and as such, Mary was now
41:34
Speaker 1: the official legal next in line to the throne after Elizabeth,
41:40
Speaker 1: and obviously she doesn't want to throw that dog a boat,
41:43
Speaker 1: but he is trying. He tries for two years to
41:46
Speaker 1: try and reunite with his wife, and then he dies.
41:50
Speaker 1: Basically had a bunch of health issues from being in
41:53
Speaker 1: prison and being fed you know, rotten poisoned meat. You
41:57
Speaker 1: know that that will have an effect on you being
41:59
Speaker 1: in a crump, damp like area. Well, yeah, not great,
42:04
Speaker 1: not great for you. So yeah, he passes away, meaning
42:09
Speaker 1: that Mary Gray is now a widow and is no
42:11
Speaker 1: longer married. Now, Mary is not told of her husband's
42:15
Speaker 1: passing right away. They want to make sure they get
42:20
Speaker 1: a doctor to be there because they're like, this is
42:22
Speaker 1: gonna upset her. So they bring a doctrine and they
42:25
Speaker 1: finally announce you know the information. Yeah, good thing he
42:30
Speaker 1: was there, Good thing he was there, because she was
42:32
Speaker 1: she was she was not. She was not doing great
42:34
Speaker 1: with that information. And so the Greshams they write to
42:38
Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth, They're like, can she wear mourning garb? Can
42:41
Speaker 1: she do this? And Elizabeth again is just like no, no,
42:48
Speaker 1: And then in a stubborn move like all this time,
42:52
Speaker 1: like Mary was sending her letters like Mary Gray, Mary Gray,
42:55
Speaker 1: like every single time. But then she writes to Queen
42:58
Speaker 1: Elizabeth and she signs her letters Mary Keys. That's a
43:07
Speaker 1: great idea, Like you're not gonna allow me to mourn properly, Well,
43:12
Speaker 1: how about this? And her like stubborn streak is like
43:16
Speaker 1: so back, it's so back, and she's causing such issues
43:19
Speaker 1: like the Greshams at this point are like desperate to ridever.
43:22
Speaker 1: He's writing letter after letterr like please get rid of her,
43:24
Speaker 1: Please get rid of her, like she's I need her gone,
43:27
Speaker 1: Dear God, get her out of here. Then in fifteen
43:31
Speaker 1: seventy two, Elizabeth has Mary Gray released. Now now she
43:39
Speaker 1: does this to kind of win favor at court, because
43:42
Speaker 1: at one point they're like, well, you could be nice
43:44
Speaker 1: to Mary Queen of Scott's and she's like, oh no,
43:48
Speaker 1: because she's trying to steal my throat. Let's not do that.
43:51
Speaker 1: And so she's like, let's free Mary Gray. Hurray. This
43:57
Speaker 1: was also helped by the fact that even though Mary,
43:59
Speaker 1: Queen of scott would have had like certain supporters, being
44:02
Speaker 1: Catholic and whatnot, Mary Gray didn't really have any supportive court,
44:08
Speaker 1: like nobody really wanted her to be queen. Nobody really
44:12
Speaker 1: was into that, and so she wasn't really a threat
44:15
Speaker 1: to Elizabeth's reign because, like anybody that would have supported Mary,
44:20
Speaker 1: at this point, we're now supporting the male heirs, which
44:23
Speaker 1: would have been Catherine's sons, so they were more focused
44:26
Speaker 1: on that instead of Mary. Now, because she'd been under
44:29
Speaker 1: house arrest for so long, she hadn't had access to
44:32
Speaker 1: her like inheritance or anything like that, and it wasn't
44:34
Speaker 1: returned to her like once she was freed. But she
44:38
Speaker 1: goes and she asks the queen, she asks, you know,
44:40
Speaker 1: can I have my money? And she allows her to
44:43
Speaker 1: have a small allowance. So Mary she's free. She's got
44:47
Speaker 1: all her books and a teeny tiny allowance, and she
44:50
Speaker 1: heads to Adrian Stokes, like her former stepfather. He's remarried
44:55
Speaker 1: at this time to Lady Throckmorton. She's got seven kids
44:59
Speaker 1: from my previous Because it's the truer era that people
45:02
Speaker 1: are always remarrying. Now, I've said it before and I'll
45:05
Speaker 1: say it again. People bring up the idea of the
45:11
Speaker 1: nuclear family as the typical traditional thing, but blended families
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Speaker 1: like they've existed for like hundreds thousands of years, like
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Speaker 1: it's so normalized, and you know, because men would die
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Speaker 1: in war, there was all the diseases of course, and
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Speaker 1: women dying of everything, and so yeah, a lot of
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Speaker 1: like blended families were happening. So yeah, Mary moves in
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Speaker 1: with the rock Mortons and the Strokes and just all
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Speaker 1: of them. And luckily, Lady Throckmorton had known Mary when
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Speaker 1: she was weay, and so she was very welcoming to
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Speaker 1: her into the household. And so after living there for
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Speaker 1: like a year or so, Mary had saved up enough
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Speaker 1: money to set up her own household. I think she
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Speaker 1: like saved her allowance or something, and whatever she did,
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Speaker 1: maybe she sold some books. Whom's to say, But she's
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Speaker 1: twenty seven and she just is out to go live
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Speaker 1: her best life. So Mary, she's free, she's got her
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Speaker 1: own household, and she's just like having acquaintances and friends,
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Speaker 1: Like she's chatting to like the Willoughbies and the Berties.
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Speaker 1: And even though she wasn't allowed to take custody of
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Speaker 1: Thomas Keith's kids, like, she still sort of connects with
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Speaker 1: them and she becomes very friendly with them, including his
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Speaker 1: daughter Jane Merrick, and she ends up becoming like godmother
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Speaker 1: to like one of her kids. And she manages to
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Speaker 1: also connect with sort of former people from court from
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Speaker 1: when she was a lady in waiting, so she connects
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Speaker 1: with them and ned Seymour, who's like Catherine's widower, like
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Speaker 1: all of these and like Mary ends up sending like
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Speaker 1: a gift to Queen Elizabeth. So she sends her some
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Speaker 1: bracelets and the Queen accepts them, which is really big
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Speaker 1: deal because it shows that, you know, she's not so
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Speaker 1: against Mary anymore, that there's no, like at least obvious
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Speaker 1: animosity there. And this is like reinforced by the fact
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Speaker 1: that Mary is then given a portion of the income
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Speaker 1: from like the grainlands. So because when the Grays whenever
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Speaker 1: they had been like imprisoned and whatnot, the Crown like
47:26
Speaker 1: took ownership of their estates and whatnot, So the money
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Speaker 1: they would have earned from that was brought back into
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Speaker 1: the crown. But now Elizabeth is gifting I say gifting, Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: she's given that back to Mary to have all of it,
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Speaker 1: not all of it, but like a week bit all
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Speaker 1: of it, like enough enough for her to live her
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Speaker 1: fabulous life and for the first time in a long time,
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Speaker 1: like she can afford the finer things in life. So
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Speaker 1: she's able to like run her household with all the
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Speaker 1: staff that she wants. She's able to buy gowns and
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Speaker 1: jewelry and have things that could or like it is
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Speaker 1: made for her, and so it's I mean, it's all
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Speaker 1: made for them obviously because like but still it's like
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Speaker 1: the best of the best. And clearly she does so well,
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Speaker 1: like working up the ranks that she becomes a made
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Speaker 1: of honor for the Queen, Like she is doing so
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Speaker 1: so well. Now the year after she becomes the Queen's
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Speaker 1: made of honor, like a year after this, the plague
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Speaker 1: just ravages through London, and Mary like she's worried. She
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Speaker 1: draws up her will like she gets ill, and so
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Speaker 1: she's like really just putting everything in place she has
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Speaker 1: she was getting. She was given Francis Brandon's like jewels
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Speaker 1: and stuff, and so she ends up sending them to
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Speaker 1: like her step grandmother, to katherin Mullaby, and so she
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Speaker 1: sends like stuff to throck Morton, so Adrian Stroke's wife,
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Speaker 1: and she just gives things to the money and plates
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Speaker 1: and whatnot to her goddaughter Mary Merrick, who's like Jane
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Speaker 1: Merrick's daughter, And so she ends up giving away all
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Speaker 1: this stuff like she has all of its connected to
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Speaker 1: people that matter to her, which I think is very lovely.
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Speaker 1: And she then so ill passes away at the age
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Speaker 1: of thirty three on the twentieth of April fifteen seventy eight. Now,
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Speaker 1: unlike the rest of her siblings, Mary gets an amazing funeral,
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Speaker 1: Like the Queen grants her to have a funeral in
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Speaker 1: Westminster Abbey, Like that is a big deal, especially for
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth to do so, because she didn't alive it for
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Speaker 1: a bunch of them, like she deliberately like didn't have
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Speaker 1: these because she was not supporting them, she wasn't validating this.
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, she has her funeral Westminster Abbey. The
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Speaker 1: Countess of Kent is the chief mourner and she is
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Speaker 1: buried in Francis Brandon's tomb in Westminster Abbey. Now, unlike
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Speaker 1: any of the other Gray sisters, Mary never made a
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Speaker 1: claim for the throne. She never suggested that she would be,
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Speaker 1: Like she tried to pull herself out of the leno
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Speaker 1: of succession, Like she actively tried to not do that,
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Speaker 1: like not that Jane Gray ever wanted the throne that
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Speaker 1: was kind of thrust upon her, but she personally never
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Speaker 1: made the claim. And so ends the Tale of the
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Speaker 1: Three Gray Sistels. And if you liked my retelling of
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Speaker 1: this story, feel free of writting review of five starts.
50:56
Speaker 1: And if you didn't like it, don't see anything mean
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Speaker 1: about me because I'll cry. But yeah, I'm hoping to
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Speaker 1: see people at Dublin tomorrow. It'll be amazing. Not tomorrow today,
51:08
Speaker 1: I forgot what day it was. Anyway, I hope to
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Speaker 1: see you all there. It's a recommendation time, I guess
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Speaker 1: for watching and watching first, like I rewatched The Marvels
51:22
Speaker 1: last night with my little girl. I was watching it
51:24
Speaker 1: and it was not Every movie needs to be a
51:28
Speaker 1: thought provoking, the cinema bending experience. Like sometimes movies can
51:35
Speaker 1: just entertain. So you know what, go watch that. It's fun.
51:41
Speaker 1: It's got three women in it and they're all connected
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Speaker 1: in a weird special way and it's just fun. It's
51:46
Speaker 1: just good fun for listening. You know what, if you're
51:53
Speaker 1: not already listening to the Murdermost Irish podcast. If you
51:57
Speaker 1: like true crime, I'm throwing a true crime thing here.
52:01
Speaker 1: The girls and Colin fabulous, amazing, love them. I've probably
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Speaker 1: recommended them before. I don't care I'm doing it again,
52:07
Speaker 1: so go deal with them. And then finally she says,
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Speaker 1: for reading, you should be a Kinky History by Ismy James.
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Speaker 1: And not just because I'm going to her book lunch,
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Speaker 1: but you should absolutely read her book. She is amazing.
52:30
Speaker 1: Esmy is actually an absolute darling. I adore her, and
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Speaker 1: y'all just need to understand how fabulous she is. And
52:38
Speaker 1: if you don't understand how fabulius she is, I can't
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Speaker 1: help you, I don't think, but I hope to see
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Speaker 1: some of you there. Let me know if you've made it.