Latest / Dollars In The Dirt / #003 - 36% of Rural Banks Are GONE. Here's What That Actually Means For Your Farm
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- 0:00Since 2017, over a third of all rural branches
- 0:03in Australia have closed their doors for good. But that's not the scary part.
- 0:07The scary part isn't the 400km round trip for
- 0:11face-to-face service. The scary part is what you're
- 0:14left with at the branch. Your relationship, your local advocate
- 0:18and your leverage. Most farmers think this is just
- 0:21an inconvenience. The truth is, it's a deliberate shift
- 0:24in the power dynamic. Decisions are no longer made by a local manager
- 0:28who knows your family or your property. They're made by a credit analyst in
- 0:32a city office who only sees the numbers on a screen. This
- 0:35isn't just about fuel branches. This is the end of relationship banking
- 0:39as we know it. Today, I'm going to break down what this massive
- 0:43structural shift actually means for your farm's future and how to operate in
- 0:46a world where the bank doesn't know who you are anymore. Welcome
- 0:50to Dollars in the Dirt. I'm Brecon Curtis and this is where we break down
- 0:54the finance side of farming so you can grow your operation, buy
- 0:57that next property and build real wealth. Let's get into
- 1:00it. It's a sad reality. Over a third of rural branches in Australia are
- 1:04gone. And that's not a future. It's already happened. And this is not just
- 1:07opinion. It's not political. It's a structural shift in how rural
- 1:11Australia is financed. Let's start by translating that statistic into
- 1:15reality. What does 36% gone actually mean? Well,
- 1:19it means But there's no more branches that can actually help
- 1:22you with getting an agribusiness loan. They're declining every day and
- 1:25there are fewer bankers on the ground that can actually help you navigating the
- 1:29struggles that come with getting rural finance. The banks can't
- 1:33get staff anymore that are experienced in this area. And
- 1:36they've stopped developing those people for a long time. So post
- 1:40the Banking Rural Commission that was handed down in 2019, customers
- 1:44aren't able to rely on their bank manager to help them with putting a loan application
- 1:47together. And what that means is that they need to look
- 1:51to other places to get that advice when putting this together. So it's
- 1:54not just branches closing. It's fewer decision makers, fewer
- 1:57experienced rural bankers. There's less knowledge. and
- 2:01there's less advocacy inside the bank. The bank didn't just close
- 2:04the door, it took the relationship with it. And this leads us
- 2:08to the hidden change that most farmers are feeling, but might not have
- 2:11put a name to yet. The relationships with their banks has become incredibly
- 2:15thin. One manager now covers larger geographical areas, there's
- 2:19more clients, it's a more complex business, and there's less time
- 2:23per customer. And there's more reliance on centralised teams. There's
- 2:26greater segmentation. And if you're borrowing less than $2 million,
- 2:30you're with a centralised team. And what this means is
- 2:34that you don't have someone in your corner helping you navigate the
- 2:37complexities of getting a rural loan. You're dealing with someone in a call
- 2:41centre. that often doesn't really understand what happens
- 2:44on a farm day to day. And they're also less willing to help you
- 2:48with the application. So what that means is
- 2:51you're left to your own devices on navigating all the paperwork, putting
- 2:54together all the information and trying to understand all the different bank jargon.
- 2:58There's also been a lot of experience that's left the banking system in the last
- 3:0210 years. And this is due to a few reasons. The banks have stopped
- 3:05investing in the rural talent that they've developed for years and years.
- 3:08A lot of old school bankers have left the industry And what that means
- 3:12is that a lot of knowledge has also exited the industry. Banks, they
- 3:15can't provide any sort of hands-on advice around how to construct
- 3:19a cash flow budget. And that leaves the customer looking for
- 3:22other ways to try and navigate the banking system. So just the other day,
- 3:25I had a customer come and see me that, you know, they were
- 3:29trying to get a loan through their bank. And
- 3:32what happened was because the borrowing wasn't enough to be dealt with the local
- 3:36branch, they were palmed off to
- 3:39a call center in Sydney. And getting a rural loan in
- 3:42the middle of Queensland through a bank manager in Sydney is not that easy
- 3:46when the person doesn't actually understand, you know, your location, the
- 3:50commodities, the seasonal risks, and what actually happens on a
- 3:53farm in Western Queensland to what's happening in Sydney. So,
- 3:57you know, they made the application, the bank took weeks, eventually
- 4:00someone got back to them, and eventually they just never
- 4:04heard anything for weeks on end and eventually gave us a call and they
- 4:07said, you know, we're trying to do this, we've been impacted by a flood and we're trying to
- 4:10get some money to restock and we just keep trying to get palmed
- 4:14off to different people in Sydney, we don't hear anything back from the bank, you
- 4:17know, what should we do? And this just shows that trying to
- 4:21get finance in a rural location is
- 4:24not that easy. You know, if you're not seen to be borrowing enough money from the bank, they
- 4:27don't really care, especially in that sub $2 million sort of bracket,
- 4:31there's no service really. And you get put into a centralized team.
- 4:34And so eventually, you know, we put this together for the customer, found
- 4:37a bank that actually was interested in assisting that type of customer in
- 4:41that location. And we got it sorted within a couple of weeks, but they were very frustrated
- 4:45with what the service that they'd received. And this is a common story that
- 4:48we hear every day. From different people, the bank doesn't
- 4:51seem to care. And it gets harder and harder for people
- 4:55in rural Australia when the branches keep closing and there's no one local to deal
- 4:58with. Another brutal truth is around loyalty. Like, you know, a lot of
- 5:01people think that, you know, being with a bank for a long time, the
- 5:05parents might have been with the same bank for years and years. And that loyalty
- 5:09is what keeps them with that bank. And they seem to think, well, whatever
- 5:12the bank manager says is true. And the reality is, though, that
- 5:16the bank isn't really loyal to the customer. They're loyal to their shareholders. They've
- 5:20got a policy that they need to abide by. The staff
- 5:24come and go. And really, the loyalty is with the person you're dealing with. And
- 5:28the bank is just the provider of the funding. So we see a lot of customers
- 5:32that have been with banks for a long time. And this
- 5:35leads to them paying a lot more in interest, often not getting the
- 5:38best deal that they can because they're skewed by one
- 5:42view on the world from one manager, from one bank and one policy, which
- 5:46that doesn't help their business when there's other options out there that could be providing
- 5:49a lot better interest rate to the customer, a lot better terms, and
- 5:52there might be a policy that's a lot more favorable to their situation. And
- 5:56in terms of loyalty, you know, there's no local decision makers anymore around being
- 6:00able to deal with the customer one-to-one. You know, we go back in time, the
- 6:04local bank manager used to have an authority where they could actually approve money
- 6:07on the spot. That isn't there anymore. The customers need to wait
- 6:10for the bank manager to go and put the application together, go to credit,
- 6:14and then come back, you know, weeks later with an answer where there's
- 6:17no local decision makers like there was. And
- 6:21you need someone that knows your story to put that together, to advocate that
- 6:24to the bank, to get what you need to do. So by having different bank
- 6:28managers changing constantly has led to that loyalty
- 6:31being lost with banks. And that really makes it hard
- 6:35for rural Australians, especially when getting finance, because that loyalty
- 6:38is what people used to rely on to grow their businesses and to help them to
- 6:42gain the funding that they needed. Just quickly, if you're tired of explaining your
- 6:45operation to a new bank manager every year, only to get a one-size-fits-all
- 6:49deal that doesn't fit your business, we can help. At Season Finance,
- 6:53we do things differently. We've got over 70 years of combined experience
- 6:57in agricultural lending, and we work for you, not the banks. We're
- 7:00the consistent expert team in your corner, fighting to get the finance
- 7:03that actually helps you grow, purchase the next property, and
- 7:06build your legacy. Don't leave money on the table. If you're looking at your next
- 7:10move or just want a second opinion on your current setup, Click the link in
- 7:13the show notes to book a confidential, no obligation chat with the
- 7:16team and we'll show you what's possible. Righto guys, now back to the
- 7:19episode. So guys, I need to ask the question, you know, why is
- 7:23everyone so loyal to their banks when the banks really haven't been loyal
- 7:26to their customers? The managers aren't there on the ground like they used to
- 7:29be, the branches aren't there like they used to be and the banks just aren't
- 7:33really that interested in rural businesses when they
- 7:36keep retracting. So why do people remain
- 7:40loyal to banks when the banks aren't really loyal to
- 7:43them? So the solutions has been put forward with branch
- 7:47closures is around what they call bank it post. And
- 7:51what that is, is really Australia post is now the new bank
- 7:54branch that we used to have in all the different banks used to have their own
- 7:58branches in rural towns. And the solution
- 8:01that has been put forward is that, well, we'll just make Australia Post
- 8:05the new bank branch for all the different brands in one place, which, you
- 8:08know, there's a lot of logic in that and I can see why it does
- 8:11make sense. It's sort of a stopgap, allowing the banks to downsize their staff
- 8:15and then outsource that to Australia Post that are always going to be there. The problem
- 8:18is, it's just a basic service. You know, you can't open
- 8:22a bank account, you can't get a loan, you can't talk to someone if
- 8:25you have an issue, there's an unusual transaction on your account, the
- 8:28Australia Post staff can't help you with this. All it is is just a transactional service
- 8:32where you just can bank money, you can withdraw
- 8:37money, and you can... do the basic stuff, but it
- 8:40doesn't give you any access or advice and it's definitely not
- 8:43going to be someone that's going to help you with any issues that you have. You
- 8:47cannot realistically manage your farming business through it. There's no
- 8:50proper account set up, there's no lending, there's no dispute resolution,
- 8:54there's no term deposit, there's no international payments. And
- 8:58there's no relationship banking with this model. Access
- 9:01is not the same as advice, and it's definitely not the same as advocacy. This
- 9:05isn't just a problem for individual farmers. It has a massive flow-on
- 9:08effect for rural communities. There's a massive flow-on effect with
- 9:12branch closures, and there's fewer professionals in towns. And when
- 9:16I look back at my career, when I went to some rural towns, there
- 9:19was 10 or 15 bank managers in towns. And I look at those same towns now, and
- 9:23there's two or three bank managers at best. And there
- 9:26was five or six branches. Now there's one or two. And
- 9:29what that means is that there's less people in those towns, which
- 9:33all those rural towns to survive need more and more people. If the
- 9:37bank manager's not there, his wife's not there, his family's not there, so there's less
- 9:40kids at the schools. What it means is the economic activity
- 9:44in those towns just reduces over and over. And this is
- 9:47the thing that most people don't really appreciate, is that as more and more
- 9:50people leave rural towns, it means those towns will slowly die, and it
- 9:54means more and more services will leave. You know, the rural businesses
- 9:58are all still there and the farmers still need access to finance and
- 10:01they still need access to services, but there's less and less people
- 10:04there. Well, you know, it's just a snowballing effect with which often
- 10:08means less people, less services. It has a massive flow
- 10:11on effect. So after all this, what does it actually mean for your farm
- 10:15day to day? You know, the practical realities are you need to be more
- 10:18prepared than ever. You need to understand your business. You
- 10:21need to really rely on different professionals
- 10:25that can actually help your business grow. Your accountant, your finance broker,
- 10:28your solicitor, you know, all those people need to make sure that
- 10:32you're prepared if you want to grow your business and know how
- 10:35and what you need to do to make that happen because the services just aren't
- 10:39in rural towns like they used to be and you can't rely on your bank to
- 10:42guide you anymore. So you need to have a clean numbers. You need to
- 10:45make sure that you have a clean set of numbers in terms of your financials are
- 10:49up to date, your ATO portals are all sorted, you have a budget,
- 10:52you have your stock numbers sorted, and you have a clear plan around where
- 10:56you want to take your business because you don't have the bank manager there
- 10:59anymore that you can go in and just have a meeting with and sit down and
- 11:02say, this is what I want to do over the next 12 months. You need to have
- 11:06that sorted in terms of a plan presented. And
- 11:09then you have to represent that strong because you don't have someone local that
- 11:12might be able to help you with that. So you need to make sure that when you do find
- 11:15someone that can help you with that, that you're putting your best foot forward. You need
- 11:19to look at all the different banking options and there's so many different lenders out there
- 11:22that finance farms. being able to access those and
- 11:26knowing who to talk to, you know, who the best option is around that
- 11:30is really important. And having someone that's advocating for you is
- 11:33really important. You know, the system's changed and whether you like
- 11:36it or not, the risk is significant in pretending that it hasn't. And banks
- 11:40aren't disappearing from rural Australia, but local banking is.
- 11:43And the farms that understand that shift and adapt early will
- 11:47be far better positioned than those who assume that things will
- 11:50go back to how they were. So here's what you need to understand. This
- 11:54isn't a temporary inconvenience. This is a new permanent reality
- 11:58of agricultural finance in Australia. The 36% of branches that
- 12:01are closed aren't coming back. The experienced bankers who left the
- 12:04system aren't returning. And the relationship banking model your parents
- 12:08relied on, well, it's gone. But here's the good news. The
- 12:11farms that adapt to the new reality early will have a massive competitive
- 12:15advantage. While everyone else is complaining about banks not
- 12:18understanding them, you'll be presenting your business in a way that makes approval
- 12:22inevitable. While everyone else is loyal to a bank that doesn't even
- 12:25know their name, you'll be leveraging competition between
- 12:29multiple lenders to get better terms. The systems change. The
- 12:33only question is, are you going to change with it? Or are you going to
- 12:36keep pretending that loyalty And a handshake still
- 12:40means something to a credit analyst in Brisbane who never set
- 12:43foot on your property. The choice is yours, but I can tell you this, the
- 12:47farms that are growing right now aren't the ones waiting for the bank to
- 12:50come back to town. They're the ones who have figured out how to win in
- 12:54the new game. Thanks for tuning in to Dollars in the Dirt. If you've got
- 12:57value from today's episode, make sure to subscribe so you never miss
- 13:01the insights you need to grow your business. And if you're ready to stop being just another
- 13:04number to the banks, visit Season Finance via the link
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