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Ravens CANCEL Maxx Crosby trade with Raiders + NFL Free Agency Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The volume what is going on John Middlecoff three and
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  Speaker 1: out podcast. We had done a big mail bag at
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms, get
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  Speaker 1: your questions answered here on the show, did like an
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: hour long mail bag, and then news broke the Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: Ravens had said we're out our picks, we want them back,
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  Speaker 1: and they have backed out of the Max Crosby trade.
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  Speaker 1: So I did like a five to six minute just
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  Speaker 1: instant reaction to the information we have and just my
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on what the Raiders should do moving forward with
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  Speaker 1: their star Pass Rusher, which I think includes just keeping them.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll do that at the top and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: dive into the mail bag. So best part about the
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  Speaker 1: podcast business we can adapt on the fly, we can
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  Speaker 1: pivot quick, and that's what we had to do because
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: this was not a story that I think most of
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  Speaker 1: you would agree we could have envisioned coming that the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens are like, actually take backs, We're good, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: give us our pick back. And because it's not official,
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  Speaker 1: nothing actually officially happened, and Max Crosby did not get
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  Speaker 1: traded to the Ravens could have get traded somewhere else
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  Speaker 1: time will tell there's a fluid situation and we will
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  Speaker 1: be on it throughout the week as things change. But wow,
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  Speaker 1: did not see that coming. So again, Max Crosby. Then
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  Speaker 1: mailbag tomorrow. I'm sure we'll have more information to this
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  Speaker 1: and we will dive deeper into it, as well as
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  Speaker 1: dad diaries and some other stuff going on in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League. So let's just dive into some of
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  Speaker 1: my initial thoughts on this. Just bizarre, crazy, out of
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  Speaker 1: left field, maybe not out of left field situation in
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  Speaker 1: involving this trade. Well, obviously, the breaking news on Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: night was the Baltimore Ravens had said take backs, we
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  Speaker 1: don't want him, We're out, and the Raiders released a
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  Speaker 1: statement that the Ravens have backed out of the trade
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  Speaker 1: with Max Grosby. So all the Raider fans who had
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: been doing mock drafts, you know, should we uh should
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  Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman? Should we take a wide receiver?
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  Speaker 1: Do we just load up on tight ends? And is
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  Speaker 1: the organ guy there take do we take that freak show?
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  Speaker 1: What do we do? You no longer have the fourteenth pick,
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  Speaker 1: but the good news you still have Max Crosby And
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  Speaker 1: I'm on this three and out text chain is how
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  Speaker 1: I found out about the information right as I finished.
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  Speaker 1: And one thing Jackson put in the group text is
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  Speaker 1: that he was watching Insiders on NFL Network and Garatfollo
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  Speaker 1: bald guy said that it's a medical reason, which you
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  Speaker 1: know clearly when you are make a trade. Geno Smith
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  Speaker 1: today got traded to the Jets. He's in New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: getting a physical. So if you're for a trade to
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  Speaker 1: go through, you gotta pass the physical. Clearly, the Ravens
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  Speaker 1: saw something that they weren't comfortable with. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how Max's cap number coming back the thirty million
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  Speaker 1: dollars impacts all their signings yesterday. My guess would be
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  Speaker 1: that they still have the cap space because my initial
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  Speaker 1: take after seeing this, I would say, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say unprecedented. I'm sure people have backed out of
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  Speaker 1: trades before, but for the most part, during this Monday
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  Speaker 1: and Tuesday, when a trade goes through, when a signing
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  Speaker 1: goes through, that guy ends up on the other team,
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  Speaker 1: like Linderbaum, is not going to back out of the
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  Speaker 1: deal and sign with someone else. I can only remember
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  Speaker 1: that happening once. Now, free agent signings are different than trades,
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  Speaker 1: but Emmanuel Sanders years ago, you know, was gonna sign
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  Speaker 1: with the Chiefs when they had Alex Smith, backed out
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  Speaker 1: and went to the Broncos, I think when they had
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  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. So it's pretty rare. Like once you these
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  Speaker 1: guys have been finding out their market since the combine
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  Speaker 1: is when unofficially tampling tampering really starts. So my take
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  Speaker 1: would be, if you can afford to keep all those
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  Speaker 1: guys you kept yesterday, assuming Max is not adamant that
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  Speaker 1: I have to go somewhere else because you saw that video,
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  Speaker 1: it's like he didn't want to leave the Raiders, could
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  Speaker 1: you just keep Max Crosby. Could you just keep Max
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  Speaker 1: Crosby with all those guys you signed yesterday and just
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  Speaker 1: try to be a credible team and then add Mendoza
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  Speaker 1: you got high pick in every round, and just try
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  Speaker 1: to improve your team that way, and you have like
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  Speaker 1: a credible NFL team with a bunch of NFL vets
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  Speaker 1: who have played at a pretty good high level on
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  Speaker 1: defense to go with Max, multiple guys in the front seven. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So my initial takeaway, again this is pretty raw and
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  Speaker 1: real after the breaking news within the last fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm the Raiders. I would just keep them because
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  Speaker 1: here's the other thing. All those teams and I was
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  Speaker 1: saying over and over, they're gonna get two first round picks. Well,
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  Speaker 1: now all those gms that would have traded two first
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  Speaker 1: round picks are surely hitting up Da Costa like what
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  Speaker 1: did you guys see? What the hell happened? And he's
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  Speaker 1: probably telling them like, we didn't feel comfortable. Now. Medical
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  Speaker 1: information depending on who you ask, Like once upon a time,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Saban's doctor said, do not sign Drew Brees. His
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  Speaker 1: shoulder doesn't work. The Saints said, we'll sign him. How'd
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  Speaker 1: that work out? Nick Saban went to Alabama. Worked out
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  Speaker 1: pretty well for him, but he had to leave the
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: NFL didn't have a quarterback, and Sean Payton became Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton with Drew Brees, and Drew Brees now Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 1: So I think certain doctors certain can see certain things
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  Speaker 1: and certain other people can disagree. It happens all the
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  Speaker 1: time during the draft. Did a medical examination at the combine, go,
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  Speaker 1: we think this guy's got a degenerate knee, a degenerate shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: I would not draft him. I don't think he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: get a second contract and teams take that guy off
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  Speaker 1: the board, and then that same guy is drafted and
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  Speaker 1: goes on to have a great career, make Pro Bowls,
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  Speaker 1: get a second contract, become you know, a great consistent
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  Speaker 1: player for whoever drafts him. Right, So, I think these
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  Speaker 1: situations are pretty rare, and especially this situation feels a
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  Speaker 1: little unprecedented given the amount of compensation in which they
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  Speaker 1: had traded for the player pick fourteen. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot and obviously the following year's first round pick,
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  Speaker 1: especially given that this is like a high level of
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  Speaker 1: organization in the Ravens. So it's it's definitely shocking when
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  Speaker 1: you read the post from the Raiders, but it is
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  Speaker 1: what it is that they backed out. And if I'm
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders, my take is on Tuesday night at five
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  Speaker 1: point thirty in the afternoon or dinner time, I would
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  Speaker 1: just keep back to Crosby if that relationship is not
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  Speaker 1: fractured enough, like you just want to stay, You just
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  Speaker 1: want to continue to be a Raider because we would
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  Speaker 1: like to continue to have you to play along with
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  Speaker 1: all these other guys. And my guess, again, this information
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  Speaker 1: is flying. A lot of stuff's going on. If I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna take a guest sitting here on Tuesday night
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  Speaker 1: before free agency starts tomorrow, and now they've backed out
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  Speaker 1: of the trade, assuming that this trade doesn't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: somehow get worked out. I would guess Max Crosby's is
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  Speaker 1: on the Raiders in twenty twenty six, so did not
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  Speaker 1: see that coming. The NFL's pretty crazy. This feels like
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  Speaker 1: on the crazy scale, pretty high like this, This is
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  Speaker 1: not something that you expected to happen, given that it
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  Speaker 1: felt like the Ravens were all in. They're already posting
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  Speaker 1: pictures of him in a Ravens uniform cgi to or
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  Speaker 1: AI or however you do that. So you just never know.
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  Speaker 1: And clearly the Ravens were not comfortable with whatever their
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  Speaker 1: doctors saw and said we're out, and the Raiders, well,
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  Speaker 1: what we're out. Those picks aren't yours. Those that fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: pick is ours. So because nothing is official until you
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  Speaker 1: pass a physical and the league year doesn't technically start
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  Speaker 1: till Wednesday afternoon, Max Crosby is still a Raider. And
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  Speaker 1: that's my official take. If I'm Spy Tech and I'm
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  Speaker 1: Brady and I'm the Raiders, I just keep Max Crosby.
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• 9:56
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• 10:00
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• 10:03
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• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Steelers quarterback, why is Will Howard not a viable option
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: to try out as the starter. I get that the
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: franchise isn't interested in a rebuild, but he did sit
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: a year behind Rogers and that's not nothing. I'm a
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: big k State fan, so I'm big on Will Howard.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: I saw flashes of greatness at Kansas State, but when
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: he transferred to Ohio State and got around NFL level
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: coaching and truly excelled. He won the Natty. He was good.
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, he looked like Peyton Manning in the playoff games.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: He was dominant player. Just wondering if there is a
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: reason why he's not in the discussion to be the
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: quarterback in Pittsburgh. He's already on the roster after all.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: I think this one's pretty simple. They have a new
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: coach who's an offensive guy who was not in the
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: league last year. I think it's fair to say he
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: didn't he value wait him coming out of college, given
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: that he got fired right at the end of the season.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: That being Mike McCarthy. Two, the way the league works,
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: whether you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and every single year minimum
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: you're trying to win nine games, ten games, or you're
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: the Jets or the Cardinals and you stink to go
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: into a season with the six round pick. Who's never
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: pretty sure he never had a he even played a
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: snap last year, like an offensive snap. If you watched
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: every snap of the Steelers. Obviously he got hurt. He
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: was on agy reserve for a minute. I don't think
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: he played a snap, did he? So you're looking at
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: a guy who not only didn't play, who's also a
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: later round pick, and fair or not, you fight an
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  Speaker 1: uphill battle when you are a late round pick, and
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: typically you have to earn your way in camp and
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: in OTAs and then work your way up with the
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff. So let's say the front office Omar and
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: his crew really like this guy. Will would have to
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: do it in training camp and preseason game and then
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: would need an opportunity through injuries, like when you look
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: at the famous third day quarterbacks, but specifically like six
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  Speaker 1: and seventh rounders. Obviously Tom's the most famous ever, but
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: let's just choose a pretty a couple years ago, who's
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  Speaker 1: a seventh round pick who was multi year starter dominated
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  Speaker 1: in the Big twelve. Is you need things that are
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: out of your control to go your way, and that's
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  Speaker 1: typically injuries. But they don't hand the starting spot when
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  Speaker 1: you've never played to a six or seventh round pick.
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  Speaker 1: It just it's never happened, it never will happen, so
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  Speaker 1: fair not. Now, who knows, maybe Will Howard becomes a
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  Speaker 1: really good player I'm with you. He's pretty intriguing guy
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  Speaker 1: based on that run they had at Ohio State. Now
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: you get a Michael Pittman, you get him DK Metcalf.
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  Speaker 1: He's got guys to throw to. But like, does Mike
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy think he's good enough? Is Mike McCarthy gonna risk
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  Speaker 1: his opportunity becoming I mean, this is his last job
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  Speaker 1: he's ever gonna have, obviously, but his hometown team with
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  Speaker 1: a sixth round pick year one like that could go
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  Speaker 1: the raw. So we'll see again. I'm recording this Tuesday afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Do they make a play? Do they trade for a
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  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, a Tyson Badget? Do they Are they interested
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  Speaker 1: in the Kyler Murray? They're a pretty fascinating team, but
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't work that way. Another Steelers question, So, now,
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  Speaker 1: always being relevant, never bottoming out is badass. You basically
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  Speaker 1: said the Steelers were stupid for holding on to a
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  Speaker 1: couple months ago, for holding on to that a couple
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  Speaker 1: months ago? Is this baby? Brain? Listen? I talk a
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  Speaker 1: lot my point simply, and me and Colin brought up
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers yesterday trading for Pittman. I do respect. I
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  Speaker 1: don't agree like I think this would be a great
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  Speaker 1: time to bot about this year, but that is not
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  Speaker 1: how they operate. So arguing it was like I said
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  Speaker 1: this forever against Tomlin, like it was time for a
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Tomlin divorce a couple of years ago, but I was
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  Speaker 1: done talking about it. Why because they were never gonna
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: get a divorce from Tomlin. They were never gonna fire him.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly we're never gonna fire even this year. Is like
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: they were clearly not good enough late in the season,
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  Speaker 1: like probably after Thanksgiving, before Christmas, there was a report
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  Speaker 1: on a Sunday like the Steelers may you know, mutually depart,
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  Speaker 1: but they will not fire Mike Tomlins. So you get
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  Speaker 1: to a point where if you don't control the situation
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  Speaker 1: and you're like me commenting on it, it's pointless to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: talk about the same thing over and over and over again. Rooney.
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  Speaker 1: Once they gave the press conference, I think this was
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  Speaker 1: either after Tomlin stepped away or maybe the day that
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: they hired McCarthy, Like rebuilding is not in their vernacular,
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  Speaker 1: Like they don't speak like that there. And my point is,
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  Speaker 1: like I can in a league full of the Jets
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  Speaker 1: and the Cardinals and the NBA full of tanking teams
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  Speaker 1: and the some of these teams in baseball spending less
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: money than some players in individual players in like the
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: NBA and NFL make It's just I can respect something
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  Speaker 1: even if I don't totally agree with it, and that
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  Speaker 1: they've operated for a way for a long period of time.
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  Speaker 1: If you told me they had a credible Like if
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  Speaker 1: you just told me Dak Prescott was the quarterback of
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers, I'd be like, they could win the division.
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  Speaker 1: They're a flawed team, but like they're a quarterback away
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  Speaker 1: from being pretty solid. A lot of teams flawed. So
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  Speaker 1: I just think they got to figure out a way
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: to get a credible quarterback. And they have too many
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  Speaker 1: good players and now McCarthy like, they're never gonna draft
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  Speaker 1: one or two even if they started let's say Will Howard,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: they started Will Howard and it turns out like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of six rounds, seven round players. And this is
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  Speaker 1: no shot at him personally, but like he just sucks.
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  Speaker 1: I still think they would figure out a way to
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  Speaker 1: win like five games, And if you win five or
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: six games, you end up drafting like ninth, not first.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're in much better position to move up to
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  Speaker 1: get one of the top guys. But I think that's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: easier said than done. I mean most of the shitty
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: teams that maybe it changes now with the Giants with Harbaugh,
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  Speaker 1: but they've been and high. It feels like it for
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  Speaker 1: a decade. The Cardinals draft high every single year. The
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the Titans have been bad for a long
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  Speaker 1: time up until Liam Cohen. The Jags always drafted high.
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  Speaker 1: So like some like that sucks. Do you know what's
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: like watching a season that just now. Part of the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Steeler thing is like their expectation is to compete against
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the Ravens, to compete against the Chiefs, is to compete
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: against you know, the Bills. And that gap has widened
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: over the last three or four years. But a big
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: reason for that is like they got my homes, they
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: got Lamar, and they got Josh and you've had nobody
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: even last year with a forty one year old Aaron
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  Speaker 1: who tried, who did a valiant effort, Like I respect
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: the shit out of him last year. Don't understand why
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: people say Jordan Love was in. So my overall point
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: is we could argue till we're blue in the face,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: whether like this is stupid, it's not that is what
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  Speaker 1: they do. Right, You could be like God, if you
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: go to out, you're just cheeseburger. That's that's your only option, right.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: The Steelers their only option starting from ownership. Again, it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: not like Omar and even Tomlin might have been open
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to it maybe, but their owner would like that's doesn't
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: tolerate it, so that that just comes with the territory.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Don't understand why people say Jordan Love was inconsistent this
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: past year. He twenty three touchdowns and six picks and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: the second highest QBR. He has two or three below
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: average games, and the rest he was really good to great.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I understand he needs to stay healthy, but don't understand
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: how people don't think he's a really good quarterback, your
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: thoughts on him moving forward. This is where it's like
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the chicken or the egg. You know, Lafloor gets criticized
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: pretty heavily with his play calling. You can watch games
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: and I bet if you went in the building, players
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: and coaches, they'd all have slightly different opinion. The let's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: go the Bears playoff game. If I remember correctly, they're
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: just kicking their ass, right, and Jordan Love looks awesome
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the stall out in
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the second half, and you're like, what is going on here?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: So I think part of it is there is no
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: disputing he's a good player. Right. They made the right
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: decision in the Rogers pivot, extending him, Like he's a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: good starting quarterback who you can compete to be a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: top one or two seed with. Right, some of their
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: issues last year r out of his control defense got
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: injured when Parsons hurt his ACL. Like they were a
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: team that was going to compete to win the NFC,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and obviously he's the starting quarterback. So if you have
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: a team to compete to win the NFC, you have
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to have a decent, stready quarterback. I don't think anyone
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: in the NFL would argue he's not a solid player
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: now great player, I don't know if I could go
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that far. He can have great drives to be he
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: could just be pretty inconsistent in games. And that's the
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: difference why he's not like one day Jordan Love could
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: be like a top five or six quarterback and kind
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: of why he hovers, you know, farther down now. He
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: is a guy that it's not like he's played that
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: much comes from Utah State sat for a while. Now
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: he's and what several years starting. It's not like he's
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: a seven year starter. Look at Dak Prescott. How much
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: better Dak Prescott is today than he was six or
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: seven years ago. So you could make the argument the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: best football for Jordan Love is ahead of him. He
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: has an offensive play calling head coach. They have a
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: ton of turnover, right, Dobbs has gone now offensive line changes,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Rashan Gary, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. It hasn't
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: he been like the team captain for a while. They
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: cut the corner who's injured Nixon. They've just had They've
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: just had some turnover of some core guys that have
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: been on their team. Now they still have the tight
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: end will come back off acl injury. Josh Jacob's still
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a really good player. You know, Christian Watson when he's
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: healthy and right, I mean, he's an explosive playmaker. Micah
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Parsons went healthy as just an elite player. But they
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: have definitely had some turnover with a core group of
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: guys that have won a lot of games. And I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: had a future them play the Broncos in the Super
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Bowl and up until Parsons got injured. I felt pretty
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: good about it. So Dad, can you talk about Mike
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Evans move From a Bucks perspective? As a diehard Bucks fan,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: all signs point to Mike leaving as an indictment on
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: our ability to compete. It wasn't about the money. He
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: just didn't think we could win. That hurts, But retaining
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Bulls and letting Liam walk I get it well by
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: all accounts. The forty nine ers, you know, this is
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: where you gotta be careful about in this time of year.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It was like, God, the forty nine ers get ing
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: three years, sixty million dollars, and then it came out
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like twelve hours later, Well, they only guaranteed sixteen million dollars.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So it's like a one year, sixteen million dollar contract.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm a huge Mike Evans guy, and I see
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: people nitpicking the move. If I'm the forty nine ers
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and I can get Mike Evans for sixteen million dollars,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I get I'm an older team. I do that every
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: day of the week and twice on Sundays, So I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: would do that move every day of the week if
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I'm the forty nine ers. Now, from Mike's perspective, by
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: all accounts, the Buccaneers offered more, even if they just
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: match that guaranteed money. California is state income tax over
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: fourteen percent, Mike Evans and you play the Rams. Technically
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it's in Australia. I'm not sure how that gets taxed,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: but you pay. It's impossible to pay any more taxes
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: for an NFL player given the way you're set up,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you'll wash the status high taxes. I think this year
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you play the Chargers in so far so this is
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: like he's used to get paying zero percent income tax.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And when you're making twenty million dollars, you know, you
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: talk fourteen percent, you're talking you know, one and a
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: half million dollar. It's a big chunk of change. I
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: say this all the time. People are like, oh, they're
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: so rich. It's like, well, fuck, any human being factors
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: that in once you get to a certain point in life,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and whether you're making one hundred dollars or whether you're
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: making a hundred million dollars, Like, if that's not a conversation,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: you're probably not great a business. So I have respect
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: for Mike that it's like he left a lot of
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: money on the table to go play for Kyle Shanahan
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: and right now, if you're gonna play, if you're him,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you know they've had this turnover with the offensive coordinator.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Baker did not play well last year. Now it was
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: banged up, but and in fairness, like Mike had twenty
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: four touchdowns within the previous couple years, so they'd had
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of success. I think the Bulls thing, it
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: does feel like it's coming down the home stretch, like
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: if you're a betting man, I is Todd Bowles gonna
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: be the head coach there in twenty twenty seven? Probably not.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I personally like the Saints a lot this year. They
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: signed Etn maybe they trade Kamara. I think they're kind
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: of a team to watch. Clearly, the Panthers have invested,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: not that Mike's factoring in, like Jalen Phillips and Devin Lloyd,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and they should be solid. The Falcons they have no quarterback,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: but they have a lot of talent on their team.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe Mike was just like, I'm ready for a change.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I'm ready. I saw McCaffrey get a second lease on
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Light when he went there. I go to a place
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: where I can be featured and we're on the same page.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: There was that famous clip last year was a Thursday
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Night Football where he's screaming at bulls. But he clearly
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: which always isn't the case, especially with older players. Sometimes
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you gotta take it where you can get it, Like
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Jason Light loves Mike Evans and they did it clearly
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: was not a financial decision. So I think the only
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: thing you would say is he didn't believe in the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: football direction, which from an offensive standpoint, I listen, if
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: all things are equal, which they're not here, he's taking less.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: But if you're as rich as Mike Evans and it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna take a couple of million dollars hit,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna change my life. So I am willing
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: to make a football decision over money decision. Who would
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: play for Todd Bowles in that situation over Kyle Shanahan,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: especially on an offense that there is not a person
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna put money in a different bucket, which
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he clearly did, you would choose Kyle Shanahan that opportunity,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: and the forty Diners is gonna need him. I mean,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: as of recording this, Juwan Jennings still a free agent.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Pearsall has not proven he can play a full season. Kittle.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I keep hearing, Hey, you know George Kittle. George Kittle
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: tours Achilles. Do you following on Instagram? He's in a boot.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: We all love George Kittle, but that's a pretty major injury,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: major injury for an older player, So I'm excited. I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: think Mike Evans is gonna be a fan favorite fast,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: but the fortyner is gonna depend on him big time.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I also think the Liam Cohen thing, I think that
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: is so easy to say no one does that because
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you could do it with countless. Dan Quinn should have
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: got fired after they lost the Super Bowl to keep
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. Who fires a coach after they won the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Todd Bowles has just been winning the division,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: like you're gonna fire him to keep Liam Cohen. And
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: for every Liam Cohen that works, there are a lot
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of guys that do not work. Again, I'm not even
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: trying to defend Todd on that one. I'm just or
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the Bucks organization. I just think that that move never
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: happens ever. Question for the bag Schneider just came off
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl and seems to be Comato's in
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: free agency so far, he is only signed Rashid's Shaheed.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: This is not unusual for him, and I don't even
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: disagree taking a step back in free agency as not
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: one of the usual big spenders around the league. But
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: it seems every year fans who follow the team are
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: constantly frustrated with him sitting back and letting top free
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: agents go to other teams without being rumored to be
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: involved in signing players. Could you just talk about a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: strategy and maybe give an insight into how gms like
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Schneider operate. Well, they gave Shaheed a lot of money.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: By all accounts that it was like fifty million. They
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: guaranteed them thirty million dollars, so that is that is
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: not nothing. I think he would say he's got a
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: massive contract coming for jays n. They have some young
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: new on defense which are gonna get paid premiums. He
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: paid the offensive lineman was at Charles Cross last year.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: While Sam Donald does not make Josh Allen money, he
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't make chump chains. If Sam Donald a three year,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract and whatever, thirty million dollars a year,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: if that was a guard or a dtackle, he'd be
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: one of the highest paid players in the league, So
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it's like he makes a substantial amount of money relative
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to football players, and I think you look at it's
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: like Kobe Bryant. Our defensive backfield is our deepest position,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: right with Witherspoon. Even Worry Woolan, who's a big free agent,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick. So part of my strength,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: as John Schneider, is I keep the cupboards full by
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: letting guys, finding guys like that in the fifth round
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and then letting them walk in free agency and getting
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: comp picks. So you could argue the Kobe Bryant deal
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: like they had the money to do that, But I
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: think he goes that's a position to depth. Mike McDonald
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is my strength right. One advantage the Seattle Seahawks have
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: is my head coach is a defensive dominant wizard, So
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I could find guys for cheaper and then when I
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: get the opportunity to blow it out on a defensive lineman,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I do that. So I don't really have a big issue.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think he let anyone go. It's not like
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he let Earl Thomas walk out the door, right. He
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: didn't just let Cam Chancellor in his prime leave. I
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: think that's how he looks at it. I also think
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: here's the other thing. When you look at a lot
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of these players they got signed, Jalen Phillips, Tyler Lindenbaum,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: like some of the hot Like you are paying a
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: massive tax to sign that guy, Devin Lloyd. These guys
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: are getting substantial, substantial raises from other teams. So if
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I'm willing to let you walk, and I'm John Snider
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and I've been doing this for almost I mean he's
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: been working in the league since the mid nineties, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: he's been the boss for almost twenty years, I do
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: think he has a pretty good feel for I can't
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: let this guy leave, and I have to keep this guy.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I think he's earned the benefit of the doubt of
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: kind of knowing what he's doing. I don't think there
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: were too many players for a team that just won
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl of like, how did you not sign
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that guy? That would be my take because this is
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: not you know, in baseball, sho Hao Tani or Aaron
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Judge or Bryce Harper or one of these guys a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: free agent like it's it's a plug and play sport,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: right If you get the opportunity to sign Shack or
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in basketball, That's not the way NFL works.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Beside like Reggie White, historically, there aren't that many guys
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in their prime that truly hit free agency, and this
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: year clearly wasn't great question for the pod What on
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: earth are the Jets doing a quarterback? Are they actually
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: gonna alf Ty Simpson? Because that is bust written all
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: over it. Also, in the event Aaron Rodgers retires, doesn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Kyler just feel like a stealer? Also looks Kevin Stefanski
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: found another terrible left handed quarterback. I do not understand
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: what type of traits the man looks for in a quarterback.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Uh the Jets, man. I think the Jets and the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Cardinals feel like just lost at sea, just truly lost
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: at sea. I mean, yesterday I saw some of the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: reactions of the Cardinals, who are gonna stick with Jacoby
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You actually wasn't bad and signed Gardner Minshew. The Jets
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: just traded for Geno Smith. Now, granted, by all accounts,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the Raiders are eating the majority of a salary that
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the Jets are just paying them three or four million dollars.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Like you said, they'll probably end up drafting ty Simpson.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm a quarterback, that's the last place
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: in the world I'd ever want to go would be
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to the Jets. I mean that's a place where careers die.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I mean how Geno's career died there and then he
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: got resurrected other places. So I don't know, man, I think,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: in fairness, if you do not have a quarterback, there
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: aren't really options, right, Like, what are the Jets supposed
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: to do? What are the Cardinals supposed to do? All
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the reports said Malik Willis had options to go other
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: places and chose to go to Miami. I would too.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: He knows the coach and he knows the GM. So
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: why would I go to a place where I don't
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: know any people. I just was with these guys when
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I resurrected my career. They know me as well as
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: anyone could know me in this situation. So I think
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: when you look at the Jets, it's like, what were
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: really their options? Kyler trade for Gin? Now, Like, if
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I'm defending them, they don't really have any to me,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: ty Simpson, that's got disaster written all over it. It really is.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Can you explain the Rooney rule and why the Bears
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: don't get a comp pick for Ian Cunningham. I do
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: believe they got fucked because you don't technically like the
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: comp picks. The Niners these for years. So when Robert
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Sala or Demico Ryans or Mike McDaniel, not a white guy,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: gets a head coaching job from a coordinator job, you
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: get two third round picks. I'm trying to think they
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: had a couple executives too, I quest you. I think
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: was one. But when your executives become an assistant GM
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: or pro personnel guy and become the GM same thing
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: as a coach, you get multiple third round picks. Well,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the league argued that Ian Cunningham is, by the letter
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of the law, a lateral move because Ian is under
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Ryan Poles in Chicago and he's technically under Matt Ryan
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Though Matt Ryan said when he got hired,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I am not gonna be running free agency and I'm
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: not running the draft. Let's face it, Matt Ryan is
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a figurehead who is being paid a lot of money
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: to kind of keep good vibes and you know, interact
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: with the coach in the GM and kind of just
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: keep everyone on the same page. But if you think
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is going to like Texas to scout players
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: or is ranking his big board in free agency, that
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: is Ian Cunningham. I do believe it. I think Ryan
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Poles mentioned this like this is wrong, Like I Ian
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Cunningham is running their personnel department like he is the GM,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: but they don't get any credit for it. And I
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: don't think this is like it's I don't think the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Falcons attempted to. You know, it's not the Falcons pick.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: The league just creates these picks out of thin air.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: But Bears got screwed. I would agree with Bears fans there,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Good day, John. Do you like the moves the Raiders
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: have made so far spending most of their money on
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: defense and not an offense with a rookie quarterback coming in?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Knowing that some say you build your defense through the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: draft and offense in free agency. I think the number
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: one key where I will defend the Raiders of buying
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: all these different players is their team was so shitty.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: It was so bad that you just need NFL bodies
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: on your team. Like the Raiders are not trying to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl next year. Honestly, they're not gonna
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs next year. They just need to get
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the train back on the tracks and be like a
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: six or seven win team that when you watch them
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: all season long ago, that's an NFL team. Because what
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they were last year was not no different than the Cardinals,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: no different than the Jets. Once you get to the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: point where you are that bad, you need to just
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: figure some things out. And they had a bunch of capspas.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: There was more good defensive players than offensive players. I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: would say, so they you know, from Quitty pay to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Kwai Walker. I mean, those guys have been longtime starters
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: on competitive teams. Obviously Quay more than Quitty because the
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Colts never make the playoffs. But you know they paid
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: for Linderbaum and Naylor the wider from Minnesota. But I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: have no issue with like they're not planning on Like
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: they don't have delusions that they're gonna be some thirteen
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: win team next year. But their team was so shitty.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: It had been so bad, and they've made so many
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: bad moves, like they traded for DeVante Adams, so one
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: year they lost a first round pick and then DeVante
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: is obviously a couple of years later not on the team.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Anymore like they have, and Gruden drafted really poorly for
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a long time, like this is not a great roster.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: So I have no problem with overspending and paying guys
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a little too much just to come be on a
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: team to try to make it decent. Within a couple
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: of years, some of those guys contracts will be over
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and you can cut them for no dead dead money.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know why anyone arguing they're like the Raiders
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: are doing is idiot. If the Chiefs or like a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: good team did it, I'd be like, that's pretty risky.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: You're bringing a lot of bodies in a lot of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: different persons. Obviously, most good teams on that level cap space.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: But if it was a consistent playoff team, you'd be like, guys,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: that's historically doesn't work. The Raiders are not. Historically. You
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: couldn't be much worse. They've made the playoffs twice in
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: twenty three years. So I got, I got. I completely supported.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And did they overpay for the center, sure, but they
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: wanted them. You know someone was gonna be willing to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: give them twenty four to twenty five million dollars. They
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: have a rookie quarterback coming in now all of a sudden,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you get a starting center, you have a good left tackle,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you could draft another offensive lineman with the fourteenth pick
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: question for the pod, just curious, how come the rest
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of the volumes podcasts aren't on Netflix? Did you make
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a separate deal just for three and out with Netflix? Well,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: we have a lot of different partnerships in this venture.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: And one of our business partners who I'm in business with,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I guess indirectly directly through the podcast, is iHeart. So
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: this Netflix deal? I think they ran the Netflix deal
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: that then comes through the volume that was then asked
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: to me like was this something you'd be interested in?
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: But from what I was told at the Super Bowl
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: party is you know iHeart has what six thousand podcasts?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: That was a number that was thrown out to me.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: There are only fifteen of them through the under the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: iHeart umbrella that and they sell ads for us, like
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: we're in business with them. That are that did the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: deal with Netflix? And your Boy is one of the fifteen.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: No big deal, but it wasn't. It wasn't necessarily and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you know we have other there are other shows like
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Joe and Jada is a volume podcast that is this
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: on Netflix. They were just at the Phoenix Race Away
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan. I didn't get the invite to that one,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: but it was it was I think ran point by
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: iHeart on this this deal. So that's it. It's kind
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of complicated, right. There are a lot of different people
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: involved in these operations, which is cool. I mean, my
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Heart's been fucking incredible to me, so I I'm very
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: happy to be in business with him. But that's kind
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: of a short cliff note version of how that worked out.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: It's not like the volume sold all the shows, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: some of the shows are more directed toward you know,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the other medium. You guys can figure that. The video one,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: how he doesn't sell a cow that still has milk.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: No on Jalen Carter. The reason how he would trade
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is not because of his talent, right he's
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: a half or he's pumping out milk left and right.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: He is an elite talent. It's he was a red
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: flag coming out of college for a reason. I don't
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: think he's the easiest guy to deal with. And now
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: you've got to pay the piper, and that payment for
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a guy like him is probably one hundred and fifty
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. Think about that, His number guaranteed would
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: be closer to Jalen Hurts than it would be like
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: aj Brown and Devonte Smith or Jordan Davis his college teammate.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: He is an extremely expensive next contract. That's where the
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: conversation starts, and that's now. Could they played out another
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: year then trade him? I just think there's a complicated
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: situation for a guy that's talent is I mean, you
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: could say he's one of the most talented players in
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the NFL. I think it's more than fair to say,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Ravens fan, why do more teams not use the transition tag?
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: It feels so obvious, it's cheaper than the regular tag,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: and no team is trading two first round picks for
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a center. So at worst, the Ravens would have gotten
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: one more year at of Linderbaum and a chance to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: continue negotiating. Maybe a team does negotiate with him and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: work out a trade with US for less than two
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: first rounders, in which case, at least we get more
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: for him than a compensatory third round pick two drafts
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: from now. The Vikings would have done that same thing
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: with Darnold. Either get two first rounders, if another team
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: signs them keep one more year on a cheap tag,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: or if he gets an offer gets a reasonable then
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: you can match the offer. Someone else did the dirty
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: negotiating for you. I usually love our GM, but this
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: feels like a serious WTF moment. Well, let me just
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: bring up Lamar Jackson contract to get the raven stuff.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: So if I type in the Ravens currently to their
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: contract situation, they have they currently have negative ten million
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: dollars in cap space and Tyler Linderbaum franchise tag number.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: If they were too franchise tag him, that number would
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: have been basically twenty six million dollars. Now the transition
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: tag would have been lower than that, but it still
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: would have been like over twenty This is the thing
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: why they couldn't do that, because a couple of people
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: have asked me, you can't put a transition or a
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: franchise tag number if you do not have the cap space.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So if the let's just pick a number twenty five
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: million dollars, you have to have twenty five million dollars
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: in space. Because this is not something you can manipulate.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: You can't fudge the numbers. The number is the number
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: for one year and part of the reason they couldn't
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: do it because they didn't have the space or they
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: weren't willing to cut and get rid of other guys
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: to create the space. It was he was extremely expensive,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: whether they wanted to keep him or whether they let
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: him walk. I mean, think about this. His cap hit
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: would have been the fifth most on the team. It
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: would have gone Lamar, Rokwan, Mattabuque, Crosby and him one
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: through five. Lamar this year's seventy four million dollars, which
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: might change in a couple of days, but they would
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: have had to get that done, the Lamar finagling of
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the contract before tomorrow or if you're listening to this today,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you're basically putting a puzzle together. And maybe they thought
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been able to get Lamar done. So
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Ravens really liked him, but there
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: were financial constraints that there was nothing you could do.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Like you don't think how he liked Reblanketship. You don't
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: think Sirianni and the staff and Vic Fangio wanted to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: keep him. There comes to a point again, Money's all relative,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: whether it's ten million whether it's twenty five million, whether
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: it's forty million, you don't have the money. You don't
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: have the money. Not that they I mean the owner
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: literally has the money, but the salary cap limits what
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you can do. So I think that plays a huge,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: huge role in a lot of franchise decisions, And now
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that a lot of these good teams have huge cap
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: numbers on three or four players, it's harder for them
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to franchise tag a player after free agency is over.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Could you talk on the pod about what NFL scouting
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: interviews are like? I've heard you talk about how to
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: get into the industry, but never about what the interviews
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: themselves are Like. I'd love to know how technical, personally
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: personality based each interview is, or if they ask questions
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: to gauge the interviewees knowledge of that franchise. Also, who
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: is conducting those lower level scout interviews. I assume it's
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: not the GM, but I have no idea. I'm interning
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: in high finance this summer, but have always wanted to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: be a scout and I feel like this would be
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: super cool to learn about. Well, I've only been into one.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I guess I've been a part of other interviews when
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: other guys interviewed. When I interviewed for the Eagles, I
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: just met with our crew. So our crew at the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: time was I was picked up by the guy whose
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: position I was taking over. He brought me to the office.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I met with Lewis Riddick, who you now see on ESPN.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: He gave me a couple players to watch. I actually
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: went to eat lunch or I guess breakfast in the
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: cafeteria and there were like three other people there, multiple
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: people interviewing for the same position, and then other guys
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: interviewing for other positions. It was like, God, this is
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: like this is like doggy dog here. It was kind
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: of intimidating. They gave me a couple of players to watch.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I watched them. I kind of wrote them up on
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: a piece of paper. I think I gave it back
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and then I think I met with Veach. Me and Veach,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: who was like the SEC scout at the time. It
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: was kind of like a hybrid role. We kind of
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: talked football, talk life. I think I ended up meeting
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: with how I don't know a lot of it. You know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: once they say Okay, this guy knows enough football to
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: come take over this position. Then it's kind of getting
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: a feel for the guy. So a personality is pretty big.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: For sure. You have to have a base level of
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: football knowledge. And in that interview, they didn't know me. Right.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: If you're if you've been ten years for the Packers
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: and you're interviewing with the less Sneed or you know,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Jason light Like, it's probably less getting super super nerdy
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: on football. It's like, no, you know football, you've been
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the college scouting director for the Packers for ten years.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: It's probably more getting to know you the guy, maybe
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: some big picture thoughts you've had, maybe things you've learned
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: throughout your career. For my position at the lowest level,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: it's I would say this my recommendation for lowest level
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: people and having been one, I mean I've been a
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: low level guy to start my career in my twenties,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: where you just do I mean pick up sandwiches at
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: gas for people. I mean I have done the dumbest
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: and lowest level task you can think of basically right
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: up to like cleaning the toilets, to then be coming
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: working your way up. Your personality and just your willingness
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: to do anything is really really important. It's why Jackson
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: wearing me out when I was at the golf course.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Why he kind of stood out. It's like he just
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: had a lot of energy and a lot of passion.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: And I think most people, if I'm hiring you to
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: be my offensive coordinator or my financial advisor, like you're
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: gonna have to have a resume and know what you're doing.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: But if you're taking over a position, like an entry
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: level position, a lot of it's gonna be energy effort.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm watching Jackson at the combine just fucking
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: fire around, interviewing McAfee and getting videos of me talking everything.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: It's just a lot of it. When you're young, and
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: when I was in my early to mid twenties, it's
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: just like positive attitude, energy effort, Like what do you
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: need throw some like energy ideas out there. It's less
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: about can you figure out this entire business that's not
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: as important, not that you can't develop into that. But
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I would say one thing I brought to the table
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and something that I look for in people is just
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: like energy effort passion. You know, when you're young and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: if you're smart enough and if you have a feel
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: for whatever you're doing, like you in finance or us
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: in the podcast business, you're gonna be just fine and
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: figure it out. But it's pretty hard to take entry
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: level people that don't have a lot of juice, Like
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not a big person that gravitates to people without juice. Like,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you gotta have some juice, and then as time grows,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: you gotta have ideas, you gotta be able to execute.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: You gotta come through. But like when you're really young,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: just getting your foot in the door, Like it's to me,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: it's a lot about like that's what I brought to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the table for the Eagles was just this guy's just
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: bringing it now. I was fucking up a lot lose things.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I wasn't the most I would say punctual is the
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: wrong way. I was punctual. I was always on time,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: but there was like a you had to be pretty
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: dialed in with your ability to keep track of a
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: lot of different things. And at the time technology wasn't
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: as good as it is now, so like you're keeping
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: things on paper. It was a lot. I mean, it
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: was intense, but I think what saved me is people
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: like me. You know, so what I screw up, it's
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: like why I get fired, gonna get screamed at. Didn't
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: necessarily think at the time. There were a couple of times,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: like I thought that Freso state that coach Hill would
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: fired me like multiple times puts a little hair in
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: your chest. Though a lot of teams should be interested
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: in Kyler Murray. I think him going to the Vikings
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: is a perfect fit. But shouldn't the following teams reach
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: out to the Texans, the Colts, the Steelers, the Saints,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: the Falcons and the Dolphins. I think they're all reaching out.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, clearly Kevin Stefanski's too athletic and is too
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: strong with an arm. I think Kyler is a pretty
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: fascinating individual, whether it's fair or not. I do think
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: perception becomes reality and back to the call almost a
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: call her daddy call a duty thing I do think
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: hangs over his head. I don't know. I think he
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: would be the type guy that if you talk to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: ten coaches, you would hear like ten different opinions. But
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people would stake their
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: job on Kyler Murray. I mean he's gotten multiple people
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: fired now, I mean he just has. I've heard you
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: mentioned the Rams a lot recently. My guess as he
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: ends up on the on the Vikings, just because that's
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: what everyone says. You know, he's not going to go
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: back to the Cardinals. Gino's on the Jets. He's not
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: going to the Jets. The Dolphins don't need him, like
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: where his options? That's why I've said all along, like
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: calling Andy Reda like hey, can I be your backup?
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Can I resurrect my career as a backup kind of works?
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: As Sam donold what it's like, resurrect your career as
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: a backup kind of worked. Look at Mac Jones, I've
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: heard you mentioned the Rams a lot recently about how
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: making the trade with Atlanta is why they're in position
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: they are in now. My question is if they just
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: drafted James Pierce, don't you think they could be Super
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Bowl champs? Seeing as they came close in the NFC
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Championship game, he'd be a headache right now, A headache,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a headache. Have you read some of the stories that
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: have come out about the situation with the WNBA player
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: about leading up the weeks leading up to the incident.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I never I've said this forever. I do not go
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: to my athletes, my fucking celebrities. My leagues, if you're
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: looking for life lessons and them to be the moral
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: compass of your life, you have a massive missing hole somewhere.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Your parents, your grandparents, your significant others, that people have
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: let you down. So if you hold them accountable to
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: what you would hold your own children accountable for, you
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: got it. You got problems. I'm sorry. I've never looked
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: at Their job is to make money and win games,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and we can debate on the order. So people get
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: into business with guys like James Pierce all the time.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: But when you get in business with James Pierce, it
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: can backfire, and as it did on the Falcons, backfired hard.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I've never wanted to say, like, yeah, he won't to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: play the league. I would be stunned if he's in
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: the NFL in twenty twenty six. So that pick is
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: a disaster. He got ten sacks out of him, but
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: you missed the playoffs. And now who knows when he's
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: gonna he might go to jail for years like not
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: like you know, I spent thirty days in jail. We've
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: seen guys spend thirty days in jail, come out and
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: play hell. Michael Vick's been a couple of years, almost
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: won the MVP when I was in Philip This guy
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: could be going away for a while. So I don't
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: think the Rams have ever thought twice. Plus, I think
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: there's a pretty good chance James Pearce wasn't on their
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: draft board because do you know what good teams do,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: They go, this isn't worth it. And I always say
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: this about well. We weren't comfortable taking him in the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: first because he was a massive red flag off the field,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: but in the fourth round he was too good to
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: pass up. Which is true that you have to give
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: him less money, So you're passing up giving him guaranteed
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: money to now give him a couple hundred grand. You
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: can cut him whenever you want, but you're still getting
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: that guy on your team. He's still coming in the building,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: he's still interacting with your guys. Your coaches still have
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: to deal with them. Jim washbur In, the famous defensive
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: line coach, told me one time, he said, you guys
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: up there, it's so easy for you to say, coach,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: this guy's a fucking headache. But look at this guy
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: bend the edge, look at this guy bullrush. And then
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: we draft him and you don't have to deal with
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: him anymore. And he's in my meeting room every single
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: day for six months. It's my problem. There's some truth
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: to that, and I say, coach, that's why you guys
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: make way more money than all the scouts. But James Pierce,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, if there was a redraft of twenty
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: twenty five, James Pierce would not be selected. I can
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: say that with the conviction James Pierce sitting here today
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: would not get drafted. And it has nothing to do
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: with his talent because he's a baller. I appreciate your
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: diaper story. My son no longer needs diapers. My kid
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: goes through an insane amount. I mean we counted one day,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I saw it got it was like ten and two hours.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: If you give the gas drops at the right time,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: those pipes just started flowing. I got a pretty good
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: dad diary pipe story coming tomorrow. But my son no
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: longer needs diapers. I did, however, pay eighteen hundred, almost
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: sixteen hundred dollars to renew his car insurance this week.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: That by six months of coverage. If he gets a
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: speeding ticket, quote very likely it goes up from there.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Is that better than cleaning up shit. I'm gonna say. Yes.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Funny think about parenting is your problems don't go away,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: they just change. Pretty true. You could make the argument
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this. I remember when I got
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: in the Tesla, when I ranted the Tesla. I think,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna pull the trigger, probably the next
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: month or two, and get one. I got Maria a
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: new car, but it's like I try I get in
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: my car somehow. I've needed a new car for fifteen years.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: My wife and kid got a new car. She already
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: had a newer car, but the AC didn't work well
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: enough in an air conditioning. I couldn't have him no
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: AC flow in the back. And I'm still driving this
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: twenty eleven beaterter Tahoe, which it doesn't I'm not a
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: huge car. It doesn't matter to me. But once you
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: get the technology of something new, it's hard to get
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: back into the twenty eleven. No bluetooth, you know, just
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: my dashboards cracking. But it's all faithful. I have no issues.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: It's paid off, it's cheap. I don't drive enough to
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: have the gas really hit me at all. It doesn't
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: really matter. I'm gonna miss that car when it's gone.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: But it's once you make the transition to driving a
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: brand new car and getting back into your beat, you're like,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: this fucking sucks. But yeah, I hear you your problems.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: You know, life's it's crazy as you get older. I
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: saw Will Compton tweet something out the other day, like
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: his daughter was just staring at the ceiling and he's like,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: what are you thinking about, honey, And she looked at
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: him and she said turtles and he kind of laughed.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: He's like, how simple it is the life they lead
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: and the older you get. Like in theory, life should
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: get better, you know, especially if you're married with kids,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: your career, like your trajectory should be aiming up, you know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: your forties and fifties. It should be for most people.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: When they do the best financially, you get to watch
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: your kids grow. But the stresses of life, the things
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: of you know, giving a young I would imagine your
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: kids sixteen or seventeen years old. Like, looking back, my
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: grandpa had given me a nineteen ninety four brown like
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: diarrhea brown. I mean it was just an ugly looking car,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: but it's my dad wasn't gonna give me a car.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: So luckily my grandpa would. He gave me when I
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: turned sixteen, like two thousand and one ish two thousand
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: and two, his Ford Explorer, And I was mobing that thing.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I mean back in the day, in the eighties and
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: nineties cars. I mean, once you've got above in most cars,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: like I'm not talking like Corvettes, but just your average truck, SUV,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Ford Tourists or whatever. Once you hit like sixty sixty five,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: started rattling a little bit. Now it's like I see
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, he gets all these speeding tickets. Well, yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: he's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. He's driving the
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: best cars. If you tap on the gas, you go
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: like eighty and you don't even feel it. My wife's
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: new Tahoe, you go eighty, It's like it's smooth. You know.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: My parents had an expedition. I remember my dad got
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: a new one like two thousand and back back then,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: like like a brand new, fully loaded expeditions like thirty
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: grand But I remember mobing that thing a little bit
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: when I was sixteen. He'd let me take it every
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: once in a while, like a Friday night with my buddies.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: What you got above like you couldn't sniff going eighty
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: without feeling like that whole thing was gonna fall apart.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Now every car, I mean, my brother's a farmer. You
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: get in his trucks. The newer versions you can go
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: seventy five and it feels like you're going thirty. So
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know how any of these kids. But back
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: to my tesla story. When I read of that tesla,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: when we went to visit my family in Reno and
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: you're just flying around zero in a sixty like I'm
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: in an F one car. I can't imagine having a
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: sixteen year old boy and letting them drive a Tesla.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I would one hundred percent of crash that thing twenty
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: years ago. One hundred percent that there is no doubt
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: in my mind when I was sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: old that me or my friends would have totaled teslas.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: They just would have been too fast. We would We
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: went so fast in our shitty cars. And the other
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: thing is you as you get older. I remember being
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: a kid and you know you live in a neighborhood.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Oh you know there were people, obviously with young children
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: in my neighborhood that were always screaming at you to
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: slow down, right, and then they put the things out
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: front that have like kids at play twenty five miles
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: an hour and under, and you're young, you're thinking like
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: this fucking loser, And then the older you get, now
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I scream at like Amazon drivers like slow down, what's
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: so fast? And I've already told Maria, like, there's this
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: one place where we live that it's kind of you
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: can't really see, and most people in the neighborhood go
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: relatively slow, but there are definitely some of these delivery
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: drivers that come around the corner, like Lewis Hamilton. So
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I say, hey, we walk Jack. We got to be
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: on the other side because if this guy's coming thirty
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: miles an hour and we can't see him, that there's
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: no room for him around this corner, it'd be a disaster.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I think by sometimes when I'm walking the dog. I mean,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I've screamed to people to slow down five people in
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the last like three weeks. So I hear you your problems,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: just just change good problems to have expensive you know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: you value you know, I don't think your kids really
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: value all that type stuff. And then you get out
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: and once one day, all those bills start coming your
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: way and you're like, wait, this actually costs money. Car
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: insurance is outrageous. I was watching a video on Fernando
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Mendoza breaking down his pros and cons as a quarterback,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: kind of sounding like an NFL scout, which got me thinking,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: as a former scout, did you have any knowledge of
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the schematical side of the sport to help in scouting
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: or was that something you left to the coaches. Knowing
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: how players recoverages, their angles on tackles, hand and foot placement,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: dropping depth. Did you pay attention to any of that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: stuff or was it just based on how good of
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: a player they were overall? PS hope Jack is feeling
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: better and wish you and Maria all the best. I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: appreciate that well. In my experience, my office and the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: scouting and recruiting offices at Fresno and and Philly were
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: with the coaches, So you were spending so much time
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: around those guys that your knowledge of like football nerdy
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: scheme just improves exponentially, I mean really really fast, because
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: you're you're just kind of inundated in that world. And
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: then when you actually scout, like if you're just watching
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: a guy Fernanda Mendoza, you don't know the play call,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: so any questions you may have on like what's he
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: seeing or whatever, you take notes and then you get
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: a hold of the offensive coordinator or the quarterback coach
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: and then you talk to them about it. So when
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: you're saying, hey, he is really good in these situations
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: at reading this coverage, I thought they were getting that.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I read an article yesterday ted to Win of the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: athletic who's a barrier guy who's really good, did a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: pretty in depth thing on Fernando Mendoza, and he got
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: the quarterback coach or maybe it was the offensive coordinator
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: on record, and was just kind of breaking down all
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: these situations of like they went over because I think
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: this guy had coached Justin Herbert with the Chargers and
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: he was showing Fernando different looks and they got the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: same look against Iowa and he remembered it, and some
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: of these shots against cover two, in cover three, running
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: vertical routes, and it's just any questions you have. Part
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: of being you know, scouting these college guys is you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: just then asked their coaches and over time you develop
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: relationships with the position coaches and the coordinators that you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: can just shoot them texts, right, And I remember one
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: thing one of the guys that the Eagles taught me.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: He said, your first year, when you do it, you're
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: not going to know any of these guys. So go
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: out of your way to send thank you cards. Like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: if you meet a guy, shoot them a cart Hey,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: nice meeting you, you know, personalized card with the team's logo,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: And those are ways to stand out. And then over
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: time you've been doing it long enough, you just get
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: to know these people and they get to know you,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: and that they throw ideas off you and you throw
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: ideas off them. But there are gonna be certain times,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: like when you're just watching the defensive end, you can
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: kind of tell like he's just being asked to go
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: get the quarterback. But obviously there are sometimes with a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: corner or a linebacker, you don't know the assignment to say,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: this guy sucks and so and so coverage, Well, what
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: if that's not even the coverage he's running. So you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: have to do digging and know that that's what's going on.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of your job because you are going
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: into these schools, you get to be around these coaches
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and try to get their information unless you're going into
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. As someone of the Combine told me, they
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: are not the most welcoming university. Of all the visits
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray spots, I haven't heard anyone really consider Philly.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see Philly bring him in and compete
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, but i'd see but i'd see them
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: ultimately give Jalen the nod of how that camp went.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I've heard a couple of people bring this up. There
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: is no way Kyler could beat out Jalen Hurts in
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: a training camp. That just when you factor in the money,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: when you factor in how invested they are, it wouldn't
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: even be a fair fight. Even if it was a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: fair fight. And I don't think Kyler could beat him
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: out to begin with. I hear what you're saying. I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: would never put it past Howie to kind of throw
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: a curveball, but I think that would be pretty stunny Indy.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: I believe he would be able to beat out Daniel
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Jones if he stays on the transition tag. Also, Stiching
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: got the best out of Hurts in Philly. Kyler is
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: a more talented Jalen. Kyla's been really banged up. That's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: an underrated part about this conversation. He's had major injuries right,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: missed serious amounts of time this year. Was he injured
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: or was he benched? But I think we're almost overvaluing
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Kyler's talent at this point. When he came out of college,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: there was no disputing his speed, his arm pop meaning
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: arm strength. But I don't think that's this guy we're
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: dealing with right now. So I'm not as high on
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as as some people are. Maybe I'll be wrong.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not acting like I know everything here.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: At what point does not doing big trades or big
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: free agency moves become the owner's fault. The Lions have
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: been releasing and trading cornerstone pieces and seemlessly and seemingly
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: been becoming worse this offseason. After the news of Crosby,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here wondering if it's Sheila Ford Hampton's Hemp's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: is that a last name, Chila For's fault for not
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: having enough cash to restructure big kin tracks like Golf
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Dot Golf Golf and Pine Sewel or could it still
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: be our GM being too scared to pull the trigger.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I need answers. I don't know, man, I don't know.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys, it's a raven So if I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to look at the Detroit Lions, you guys currently
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: have five million dollars in cap space. Jerry Goff is
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: taking almost twenty five percent of your salary cap. I'm
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: in Ross Saint brown Is has a bigger salary cap
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: hit than Jalen Hurts. So I mean those two guys
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: are taking basically thirty five percent of your cap. And
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: if you factor in you know, McNeil has kind of
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: been a disaster and pine sewel you. You're talking over
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: fifty percent of your cap between five guys, and you
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: kind of get lucky because Aiden's contract is is manipulated
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: right now, Jamison doesn't make that much. Laporta Gibs run
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: rookie deals. But you know, Gibbs is gonna need a
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: contract extension. If Laporta is healthy, He's gonna get a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: big contract extension. Like this is kind of the business
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: you're in, you know, And it kind of starts with golf,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Like golf makes a lot of money. God's gonna make
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: fifty five million dollars this year, fifty five million in cash.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Think about that. That's a lot of money. I mean,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: how do I look at the cash breakdown? So this
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: year he's gonna make fifty five million dollars. God, Jared goffs,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: what's his career breakdown? Can I do his career earnings?
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to see, career earnings. Let's let's
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: play a game with Jared goff I'm gonna guess he
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: was drafted twenty sixteen, so we're talking over a decade.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess two hundred and sixty million dollars after
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: this season. I was wrong. He's made two hundred and
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: sixty million dollars. Now after this season he will be
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: over three hundred million dollars. So I mean Jared Gops
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: living like an NBA or Major League Baseball player, underrated
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: part like he there's only one cap hit in the
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: league bigger than him. It's Lamar Jackson. Congrats of the baby.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Hope to have my first here soon. Congrats to you.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Congrats on the sex. Just a quick question for the back.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: What does this season hold for the Chargers. I've been
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: a big Herbert fan since he was drafted. I'm not
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: selling my Herbert Stock. Chargers have a lot of casts
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: base but merely made any moves. Could you see them
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: getting aj Brown? They only have five picks in this draft,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: so I figured or teas would make it rain in
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: free agency. Good teams like the Raiders had to do that.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Good teams like competitive teams, the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Broncos,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: like you just even the Bills, like you extend your
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: own guys. Maybe you get a guy trade for DJ
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Moore signed Kenneth Walker. You don't signd like seven guys,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: especially day one. That's not really that's not good business.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: You want to develop the guys. You know, you're comfortable
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: with those because if you do sign guys, they cost
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. So I don't think, you know,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Seattle's like, why isn't Seattle not signing anybody? They just
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: won the fucking Super Bowl? Who are they gonna sign
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips to one hundred million dollars? I just think
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: that that's not really the way good teams work. Good
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: teams lose guys. That's the business. When you're good, you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: lose players, especially guys that aren't top two or three
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: players on your team, and if you are gonna lose
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: one of the top three or four guys on the team,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: you trade them. The Chiefs. I think charging canna be
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean, I think they have a chance
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: to if Herbert can never figure out how to play
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: well in the playoffs, I think they could win the AFC.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I'm the number one hardball guy. I think Mike McDaniel
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: saw this video of Khalil Mack, who just Khalil Mack
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: looks like an actor that you would have seen like
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: the nineties in an Armor Schortznaker movie, who just happens
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: to be able to rush the passer. But I think
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be pretty good. If I'm the Niners, I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: would trade mac Jones and sign Cousins on the cheap.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Sounds too easy. What do you think? This is our
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: last question. I think there's a chance Cousins a shot.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: He's thirty seven years old, the Achilles, he could never
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: really move. I mean, I listen, he had become a
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: really good player four or five years ago. But the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: guy we saw these last couple of years is just
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, post injury is just not the same. So
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: to me, I'm out on Cousins. I think Mac Jones,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: this version that the forty nine ers have found is
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: dramatically better player in twenty twenty six than Kirk Cousins.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I mean dramatically, And if money's all equal, there is
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: not a question in my mind I would take mac Jones.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I personally would not trade mac Jones if I'm the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers for anything less than a second round pick,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: and I don't think anyone's given them a second round pick.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: So it's just one of those where I'm just gonna
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: keep mac Jones. Why because I need a good backup quarterback.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at the Bears, so technically, if they
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: don't trade Tyson, they're gonna have three quarterbacks. You never
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: know when a guy gets injured, can you win games? Like,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: if you're a team that has playoff expectations, you don't
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: want your season derailed because you're starting quarterback. It happened
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: in the forty nine ers two years ago. Purdy got
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: hurt and Kyle Allen had to play and they immediately lost.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: This year, Purty missed a ton of games, and I
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: forget mac Jones' exact record, but he won I think
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: four games. He was exceptional for them, especially given what
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: the expectations were. So I think mac Jones value to
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers is I would say, infinitely higher
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: in their building than it is to anyone else. And
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: typically when you have that for a guys like yeah,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: we'd be open trading him. Well, you can't trade a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: guy if I value him way more than the entire
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: league because whatever anyone's gonna offer me is not gonna
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: be high enough. Listen, we all have delusions, probably the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: wrong word, because they saw it. They felt mac Jones.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I mean he carried them at times. I mean he
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: was unreal in the Rams game, playing with random guys
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: after they had just lost Bosa. So I just think
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: that a lot of teams like, yeah, take Mack Jones
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: like a fourth round pick, and the forty nine ers like,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: we're not giving away for a fourth round pick. And
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: that's why he'll just stay on the forty nine ers,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: my guess. And I think I saw today Rassini said
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: like the asking price is astronomical, which is one of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: my favorite words. So I could see that no different
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: than this is different, but how he's asking price. Obviously
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: A J. Brown is a better player in mac Jones
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: is way higher than clearly the league is willing to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: give him, which I don't blame him because of how
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: he goes. I'll just keep aj Brown, right, He's already
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: on my books. He's one of the most talented players
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: in the league. Like, if you're not willing to give
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: me what I need for him, I'll just keep him
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: and I'll just deal with his emotions somehow, some way,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: because I'm not just gonna give him to you for
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: a third round pick, which I originally thought was gonna
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: be the case like two months ago, and then at
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: the combine, I was like, that is not happening. They
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: are not just giving this guy away. They fucking like
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: him internally, the players like him, the coaches like him.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: He just wants the ball. He just wants the day
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: of ball. Which listen, he's a receiver. Hard to blame him.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: The volume