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Episode Two Hundred Twenty Seven: Trump Floods The Zone · The Death Of Journalism

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode two hundred and twenty seven of the
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Speaker 1: Death of Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host on today's show, a jam packed edition of
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Speaker 1: the podcast. As tragedy strikes the skies of Washington, DC
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Speaker 1: and Trump's reaction is problematic. Trump turns his attention to
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Speaker 1: multiple foreign countries and entities to try to dominate them,
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Speaker 1: and I do a very contentious interview with my former friend,
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Speaker 1: never trumper Joe Walsh that you're definitely gonna want to hear.
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Speaker 1: And with the Super Bowl this Sunday, I do a
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Speaker 1: special illustration of just how much the NFL has changed
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Speaker 1: that you will definitely not hear anywhere else. Well, the
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Speaker 1: absolutely horrible month of January has finally been completed. We're
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Speaker 1: now into February, and I'm already seeing that there's a
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Speaker 1: problematic element of going to one episode of the podcast
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Speaker 1: per week because the news is just coming fast and furious.
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Speaker 1: A lot of it is manufactured by Donald Trump and
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Speaker 1: his administration, but as we saw in January, a lot
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Speaker 1: of it has also come in the form of real, actual,
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Speaker 1: and often tragic news. And that's what happened with the
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Speaker 1: plane crash that occurred over the nation's capital, the first
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Speaker 1: major commercial airline disaster in a very long time in
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Speaker 1: this country. But this one was particularly horrible for a
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Speaker 1: lot of reasons, including the fact that it occurred because
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Speaker 1: of a collision between a Blackhawk Army helicopter right over
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Speaker 1: the Potomac River, right there in Washington, d C. Just
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Speaker 1: a stone's throw from Reagan National Airport, and sixty seven
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Speaker 1: people were killed seemingly instantly and horrendously. I mean, this
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Speaker 1: was just a horrible, horrible human tragedy in so many ways.
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Speaker 1: The way that the people died, the fact that they
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Speaker 1: had basically no reparation at all for what happened to them,
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Speaker 1: the fact that they in all likelihood died either instantly
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Speaker 1: or drowning in the cold waters of the Potomac, and
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Speaker 1: that you had very young people on that commercial flight,
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Speaker 1: including over a dozen members of the US Skating Federation,
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Speaker 1: young figure skaters. Just horrible stories. Seven guys on a
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Speaker 1: return from a hunting trip. Just an awful, awful, horrendous
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Speaker 1: tragedy that thankfully we've not had to deal with the
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Speaker 1: likes of which in a very long time in this country.
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Speaker 1: And I was frankly appalled by how Donald Trump decided
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Speaker 1: the next morning, the next morning to start blaming, and
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Speaker 1: if we use our brains and we listen to what
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Speaker 1: he actually said, which is dangerous at times, blaming not
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Speaker 1: just DEI in general, but in my view, very specifically,
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Speaker 1: those that were operating the military helicopter. In other words,
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Speaker 1: human beings or maybe one human being who was serving
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Speaker 1: our country and who died in the service of our country,
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Speaker 1: and where there is not one shred of evidence or
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Speaker 1: logic that there was any ill intent in all of this,
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Speaker 1: despite some wackadoodles with the dumbest conspiracy theories you've ever
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Speaker 1: heard in your life, as if somehow you know there
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Speaker 1: was somebody on a military black Hawk helicopter who did
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Speaker 1: a suicide mission to kill innocent people. What was this
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Speaker 1: a deep state conspiracy to take down the future of
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Speaker 1: US figure skating. I mean, just the craziest, dumbest stuff
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Speaker 1: you'd ever possibly conceive of. But unfortunately, in the social
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Speaker 1: media age, this is the kind of crap we have
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Speaker 1: to deal with. But he not just blamed DEI, but
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Speaker 1: he very specifically blamed, in my view, whoever was operating
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Speaker 1: the Blackhawk helicopter in very specific detail, and to blame
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Speaker 1: somebody who clearly had no ill intent, who just died
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Speaker 1: in the service of our country, when their body is
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Speaker 1: still in the Potomac River and their families are just
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Speaker 1: barely even getting noticed that this happened was in my view,
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent the wrong place and the wrong time.
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Speaker 1: And on the evening that that press conference happened where
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump said those things, I went on News Nation
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Speaker 1: on Dan abrams program, very likely for the last time
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Speaker 1: I'll ever be on Dan Abramroom's program on News Nation,
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Speaker 1: because his show ends at the end of this week,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm going to be asked on
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Speaker 1: for a number of reasons for the remainder of this week.
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Speaker 1: And what was real. There were many elements of this
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Speaker 1: appearance that were very interesting. One was that it led
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Speaker 1: the show, and two that I was on with Leland Veritert.
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Speaker 1: Leland Viddert is the guy who is going to be
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Speaker 1: taking over for Dan Abrams on News Nation in the
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Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour. Leland Viverdert is a conservative. He's much
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Speaker 1: more pro Trump than I am. And so just the
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Speaker 1: fact that I was booked I thought was a bit odd,
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Speaker 1: and it went down in kind of a strange way,
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Speaker 1: because here I was, I guess, in public perception, providing
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Speaker 1: the perspective of being to the left of Leland Vitdert,
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Speaker 1: because he was very much supportive of what Trump had
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Speaker 1: said in response to the tragic airline disaster, and I
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Speaker 1: was much more cynical. I was very polite, and I even,
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Speaker 1: to be clear, suggested very strongly. In fact, I yelled
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Speaker 1: this just to make it very very clear that it's
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Speaker 1: possible that what Donald Trump is paying is true, but
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Speaker 1: we don't know that yet. That's number one, and number two,
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Speaker 1: it's not the right time or place. You can wait
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Speaker 1: at least a few days, make sure you have the
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Speaker 1: facts and have a little respect and a little empathy
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Speaker 1: for the families of those who died. And there's no
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Speaker 1: benefit to start blaming human beings in a situation where
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Speaker 1: we don't know for sure what exactly happened. Yeah, we
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Speaker 1: have this amazing, spectacular, horrendous video and it looks crazy.
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Speaker 1: It looks absolutely crazy, I mean, frankly, in a number
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Speaker 1: of ways, this reminded me of the whole LA wildfires. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of elements to blame here, but
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Speaker 1: let's not get beyond number one, which was really bad
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Speaker 1: luck and a perfect storm of circumstances, and the chances
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Speaker 1: of this accident happening the way that it did are
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Speaker 1: almost infinitesimal. I mean, for those two, you know, the
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Speaker 1: airliner and the helicopter to collide in mid air when
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Speaker 1: they're both going in a pretty good clip is almost
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Speaker 1: mathematically statistically impossible. Now it's not quite as impossible as
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Speaker 1: I originally thought, because when you look at the video,
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Speaker 1: it looked like the helicopter broadsided the commercial airliner, but
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Speaker 1: that's not really what happened. I think. I think it
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Speaker 1: was almost much more of they ran or the helicopter
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Speaker 1: ran into the airliner almost from the front, and it's
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Speaker 1: kind of an optical illusion that it looked like it
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Speaker 1: was a broadside. But regardless that, all the circumstances that
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Speaker 1: had to come together for this to happen are almost astronomical.
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Speaker 1: And you know, is it possible that DEI played a role?
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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, that is possible, But you first of
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Speaker 1: all had to fight out who's to play what happened,
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Speaker 1: whether or not they really belonged to that position, because
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Speaker 1: unlike the wildfires, and this is important because I don't
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Speaker 1: want people to think somehow I was hypocritical because I
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Speaker 1: went on News Nation and I said that I don't
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Speaker 1: think I know. I don't know if I've said this directly,
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Speaker 1: but I certainly went along with the idea that, you know,
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Speaker 1: DEI is one of the many problems that California has
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Speaker 1: that may have resulted in these wildfires. But there's a
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Speaker 1: huge difference in the wildfire situation. There's not one person
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Speaker 1: or one decision that can be blamed for this as
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Speaker 1: far as we know, or that could have changed the outcome.
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Speaker 1: But obviously, in this circumstance, let's pretend you're gonna, like
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Speaker 1: Trump did, You're gonna blame the helicopter and whoever was
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Speaker 1: in charge of flying the helicopter. If the helicopter is
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Speaker 1: at you know, one hundred and fifty feet instead of
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Speaker 1: maybe three hundred feet, none of this happens. No one
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Speaker 1: even knows that occurred. And that's one person's in theory decision,
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Speaker 1: which is completely different set of circumstances. And if that
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Speaker 1: is in fact the case, then DEI could be theoretically
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Speaker 1: a legitimate, very legitimate in theory explanation for what occurred.
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Speaker 1: If someone was in a position that they weren't really
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Speaker 1: qualified for and they made a bad decision and they
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Speaker 1: caused sixty seven people, including themselves, to die. That's legitimate,
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Speaker 1: but this is not the right time or place for this.
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Speaker 1: And that was my major message on the News Nation
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Speaker 1: program last week. And just to illustrate how weird this
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Speaker 1: whole thing was, so at the end of the segment
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Speaker 1: with me and Leland Bidderd, Dan made the announcement that
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Speaker 1: Leland was taking over for him, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: this is so odd. Why was I even asked on
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Speaker 1: this show? I mean, Dan could have just done this
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Speaker 1: interview with Leland. He could have played the position that
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Speaker 1: I was taking because frankly, I was really kind of
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Speaker 1: agreeing more with Dan than with Leland, though I was
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Speaker 1: doing so in a polay fashion. But it occurred to me,
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Speaker 1: and it occurred to other people who watched this and
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Speaker 1: are familiar with the situation that maybe Dan and maybe
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Speaker 1: his bookers were trying to kind of introduce Leland to
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Speaker 1: me and vice versa for when Leland takes over the show.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the reality of it. I
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Speaker 1: do know that I was booked with Leland on inauguration night,
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Speaker 1: and we had a very short interview, but that was
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Speaker 1: simply because we ran up against the clock. But so
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Speaker 1: this was not the first time I'd ever been on
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Speaker 1: with Leland. I've been on with Leland with him interviewing me,
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Speaker 1: and here I was on with Leland as he was
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Speaker 1: a I guess, kind of a competing commentator with Dan
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Speaker 1: Abrams being the host. So I don't know what, if
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Speaker 1: any significance there is to that moving forward. I do
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Speaker 1: not expect to be on Leland's show nearly as much
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Speaker 1: as I was on Dan abrams show. But that whole
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Speaker 1: appearance was interesting on a number of levels. But most
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Speaker 1: importantly was the substance of the issue and this idea
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Speaker 1: that Trump immediately jumps all over DEI And as I
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Speaker 1: said on New Station, nobody has more disdain for DEI
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Speaker 1: than me. And if there's real solid evidence the DEI
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Speaker 1: played a major role in this, then that ought to
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Speaker 1: be known and that ought to be made an issue
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Speaker 1: out of. But not right after less many hours, less
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Speaker 1: than twenty four hours after the accident, while bodies are
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Speaker 1: still being taken out of the Potomac River and families
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Speaker 1: are you haven't even had a chance to come close
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Speaker 1: to burying their loved ones. And let's be clear, when
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Speaker 1: Trump does this, there's a massive impact here, especially given
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Speaker 1: the fact that he has a cult. So when he
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Speaker 1: says it's DEI and then he blames the operation of
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Speaker 1: the helicopter, this is important because I've had a lot
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Speaker 1: of people pushed back on me. He's like, oh no, John,
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Speaker 1: he was really talking about the FAA and all of
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Speaker 1: the the DEI there. And I get I one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent get that the head of the FAA under Biden
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Speaker 1: was a total DEI higher. But to get from there
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Speaker 1: to blaming DEI for this crash in the sixty seven fatalities,
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Speaker 1: you have to show a direct connection. You have to
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Speaker 1: show that somebody wasn't, you know, in a position that
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Speaker 1: they should have been, or there was not enough staffing.
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Speaker 1: And there is some indication that there was quote unquote
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Speaker 1: not normal staffing in the the you know, the air
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Speaker 1: traffic control center that night, but there's no evidence that
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Speaker 1: that was the cause of the crash or a primary
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Speaker 1: cause of the crash. And so I'm skeptical of that
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Speaker 1: theory that a lot of Trump fans like to have
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Speaker 1: because they don't want to have Trump blaming members to
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Speaker 1: the military, especially when their bodies are still in the
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Speaker 1: Potomac and there's no ill intent. I think the intent
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Speaker 1: part here is important. If this was a situation where
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Speaker 1: you know, some military member went crazy and started shooting
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Speaker 1: people on a base, that's totally different, because that's obviously
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Speaker 1: ill intent. There's clearly no evidence of ill intent here.
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Speaker 1: At worst, this was a really bad mistake in a
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Speaker 1: perfect storm of circumstances. And just to make my point
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Speaker 1: that if you use your brain, Trump was clearly blaming
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Speaker 1: who was ever operating the helicopter for this. To me,
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Speaker 1: this couldn't be more clear because we have Trump talking
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Speaker 1: about this and he's not suggesting that the helicopter had
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Speaker 1: some sort of technical malfunction, that the helicopter did this
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Speaker 1: on its own. We've talked about this in the past,
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Speaker 1: where you know, whenever there's a car accident that the
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Speaker 1: media like the reason behind, they'll blame the car for
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Speaker 1: having done this. No one's blaming at this point the
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Speaker 1: helicopter itself. There was no evidence of technical malfunction. And
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Speaker 1: by the way, it's theoretically possible we may find out
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Speaker 1: about that later on, and that would blow up a
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Speaker 1: lot of Trump's arguments to begin with, especially the DEI
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Speaker 1: portion of this, but as of right now, there's no
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Speaker 1: logic or indication or evidence of that. But here is
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump clearly, clearly, if you think this through rationally,
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Speaker 1: he is clearly blaming whoever operated the Army Blackhawk helicopter
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Speaker 1: for the deaths of sixty seven people, including their own.
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Speaker 1: And it's not even close. And just for the record,
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Speaker 1: here's what Trump said.
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Speaker 2: And the turn it made was not the correct turn, obviously,
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Speaker 2: and it did somewhat the opposite of what it was told.
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Speaker 2: You could have slowed down the helicopter substantially.
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Speaker 1: You could have stopped the helicopter. You could have gone up.
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Speaker 1: You could have gone down.
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Speaker 2: You could have gone straight up, straight down, You could
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Speaker 2: have turned. You could have done a million different maneuvers.
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Speaker 2: They shouldn't have been at the same height because if
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Speaker 2: it was at the same height, you could have gone
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Speaker 2: under it or over it, and nobody realized or they
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Speaker 2: didn't say that it's at the same height. At the
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Speaker 2: same height, it would still wouldn't have been great, but
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Speaker 2: you would have missed it by quite a bit. Could
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Speaker 2: have been a thousand feet higher, It could have been
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Speaker 2: two hundred feet lower, but it was exactly at the
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Speaker 2: same height, and somebody should have been able to point
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Speaker 2: that out.
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Speaker 1: Now to me, that couldn't be more clear without actually
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Speaker 1: saying it. Trump is blaming whoever operated the helicopter, and
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Speaker 1: he is blaming Dei. So do the math he is saying,
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Speaker 1: and people are presuming, because he's the president the United States,
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Speaker 1: that he has information we don't have. He's presuming that
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Speaker 1: the person operating the helicopter was a Dei hire and
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Speaker 1: they were incompetent, and they screwed up, and that's why
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Speaker 1: this happened, and that's why all these innocent people died
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Speaker 1: a horrible death. That's what he's saying. And he's saying
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Speaker 1: it based upon, in my view, much more instinct instinct
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Speaker 1: than actual knowledge, because there's no possible way. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm not one of those these people that believes that
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Speaker 1: somehow the government automatically knows everything, and the president has
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Speaker 1: way more knowledge in a situation this soon after it
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Speaker 1: happened than the rest of us do. He's operating on
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Speaker 1: his gut, on his instinct, which again could be right.
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Speaker 1: It's been right in the past, but this is not
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Speaker 1: the right time or the place for the reasons I've
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Speaker 1: already stated, and I think it was completely inappropriate. I
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Speaker 1: think it's an indication that there's just something missing, As
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Speaker 1: I said on News Nation, from Donald Trump's hard there
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Speaker 1: are programs missing that are important to being a president
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Speaker 1: in times of crisis and tragedy like this one. So
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Speaker 1: I really do have a huge problem, even if he
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Speaker 1: turns out to be right on the DEI issue, I
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Speaker 1: have a huge problem with the way Trump handled this
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Speaker 1: because this is an important element of the job of
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Speaker 1: being president and Trump is terrible at this. Now, his
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Speaker 1: supporters will always rationalize for him, and there becomes a
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Speaker 1: massive market for vindicating Trump whenever he's way out ahead
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Speaker 1: of the facts, so that we eventually get to a
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Speaker 1: narrative in the right wing stratosphere, the media, online, social media,
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Speaker 1: what have you, Trump was right again. I mean this
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Speaker 1: has happened one hundred times at least, where Trump says
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Speaker 1: something seemingly crazy and then eventually his supporters find something
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Speaker 1: with which to vindicate him and c see he was
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Speaker 1: right again. And this causes what I've referred to many
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Speaker 1: times before as a market for false stories, and that's
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Speaker 1: what happened here. So right after Trump blames DEI, there
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Speaker 1: becomes this Twitter post that the pilot was a transgender
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Speaker 1: man or woman. I'm not even sure. I never know
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Speaker 1: for sure how to describe that situation, but that the
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Speaker 1: person who was in charge of the helicopter was transgender,
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Speaker 1: like a DEI special, and that went semi viral, and
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Speaker 1: it turned out to be false because the transgender person
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Speaker 1: was still alive and they did interviews, and you know,
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Speaker 1: it made the right wing not jobs look bad, although
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Speaker 1: they don't care. And but to me, the most important
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Speaker 1: part of that was it's an indication of this power
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Speaker 1: of creating this market for vindicating Trump that didn't do it.
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Speaker 1: And it took a while before we found out who
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Speaker 1: actually was one of the co pilots. And that's another
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Speaker 1: element of this whole situation that we just don't know
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Speaker 1: yet as far as I'm able to tell, who was
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Speaker 1: really operating the helicopter because there were co pilots. But
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Speaker 1: before that happened, we had another situation where Trump is
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Speaker 1: being Trump. And this is really becoming quite astonishing, even
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Speaker 1: to me as someone who has followed this saga for
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Speaker 1: nine years now. It never gets old, it never gets
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Speaker 1: logical to me. It never makes any sense to me
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Speaker 1: how Trump does this, But this is basically his superpower
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Speaker 1: where he can say anything, and if it seems crazy,
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Speaker 1: his fans just say, oh, that's so funny, or he's
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Speaker 1: just trolling, he's joking. Oh, come on, don't take him seriously.
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Speaker 1: Like for instance, when the reporter asked them whether he'll
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Speaker 1: be visiting the site of the crash, and he mocked
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Speaker 1: them by saying, what do you want me to do?
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Speaker 1: Go swimming? They're in the water. Okay, okay, what He's
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Speaker 1: the president in the United States. That is not an
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Speaker 1: appropriate comment, especially again less than twenty four hours after
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Speaker 1: this has happened. And what's most amazing is even Bill
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Speaker 1: Maher I now referred of his former liberal Bill Maher.
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Speaker 1: He's now somewhat of a modern I guess, but former
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Speaker 1: card carrying LA liberal Bill Maher defended Trump for that
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Speaker 1: statement on HBO. I mean, what a world we're living in.
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Speaker 1: Bill Maher is defending Donald Trump for making clearly inappropriate
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Speaker 1: comments from a president talking about a crash site and
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Speaker 1: mocking the fact that they're all in the water and
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Speaker 1: he couldn't go swimming to go visit the crash site.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not a big deal. But to me
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Speaker 1: from a media perspective, I was just like, really, Bill
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Speaker 1: Maher is now gonna defend this kind of stuff. I mean.
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Speaker 1: We had a similar situation that happened earlier this week
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Speaker 1: where Trump is doing a press conference with net and
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Speaker 1: Yahoo where he says he wants to take over Gaza.
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Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second. This is a
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Speaker 1: similar situation where an Afghan female reporter is trying to
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Speaker 1: ask him a question. Wasn't like she was unable to
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Speaker 1: be understood, but Trump said, I like your accent and
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Speaker 1: I love your voice, but I can't understand the word
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Speaker 1: you're saying. And live in peace, Syinara, I mean, and
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Speaker 1: everyone thought that was hilarious. Can you imagine? Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine if Joe Biden had said those exact same words,
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Speaker 1: same thing with the what do you want me to do?
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Speaker 1: Go swimming? If you took those transcripts and attributed him
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Speaker 1: to Joe Biden, they would be clear evidence of his dementia,
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Speaker 1: of his diminishi mental state, about how he's not capable
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Speaker 1: of functioning as president. And instead with Trump, it's all
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Speaker 1: it's hilarious. Oh my god, he's so funny. He's trolling
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Speaker 1: everybody and he gets away with it. How awesome is that.
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Speaker 1: It's an amazing phenomenon. It's an absolutely amazing phenomenon. But
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Speaker 1: back to the airline disaster and this market for vindicating Trump.
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Speaker 1: So we don't know the third the identity of the
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Speaker 1: third person. There were only three apparently there's supposed to
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Speaker 1: be four people, which might have been relevant in the
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Speaker 1: Blackhawk helicopter. But we didn't know the identity of the
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Speaker 1: third person for a while because apparently the family, understandably
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Speaker 1: in my view, did not want their identity to be
22:49
Speaker 1: known because I guess seemingly because of what Trump had said.
22:55
Speaker 1: Trump basically put a target on the back of all
22:59
Speaker 1: the dead service members who were in that helicopter of
23:03
Speaker 1: it for having caused this disaster. And it turns out
23:07
Speaker 1: that the third person is in fact a woman, and
23:11
Speaker 1: I will fully acknowledge that there are elements of her
23:16
Speaker 1: biography that certainly are consistent with the idea that her
23:21
Speaker 1: career was helped by DEI. She's a young woman, she
23:25
Speaker 1: was apparently very prominent within the Biden administration. She had
23:30
Speaker 1: taken part in the awards ceremony with the presidential Medal
23:35
Speaker 1: of Freedom at the end of Biden's presidency. I mean,
23:38
Speaker 1: they're pictures with her with Biden. I mean so, I mean,
23:43
Speaker 1: there are some elements of her story that are consistent
23:47
Speaker 1: with that, but we don't even know whether or not
23:50
Speaker 1: she was really in charge of the helicopter. She was
23:53
Speaker 1: operating the helicopter. We don't know what the helicopter thought
23:59
Speaker 1: was going on my view, and I'm nowhere near an
24:02
Speaker 1: expert here, but I've watched as many videos as anybody
24:05
Speaker 1: on this. It certainly appears to me as if we
24:08
Speaker 1: had a couple of things happen where the helicopter was
24:12
Speaker 1: higher than it thought it was, and the commercial airliner
24:17
Speaker 1: that they were warned about was a different one than
24:21
Speaker 1: the one they thought they were looking at. And I've
24:24
Speaker 1: seen some simulations that are really pretty good where, especially
24:29
Speaker 1: when the light is reflecting off of the Potomac River
24:33
Speaker 1: at night, that it is very easy for a commercial
24:38
Speaker 1: airliner to effectively become invisible during the critical period of time,
24:42
Speaker 1: and that they mistook which commercial airliner they were being
24:46
Speaker 1: warned about by air traffic control, and that is a tragedy.
24:52
Speaker 1: That's an unfortunate situation, but that's not first of all,
24:56
Speaker 1: from that that theory is correct, that's not catastrophic error.
25:01
Speaker 1: It's catastrophic and its results, but it's understandable and certainly
25:04
Speaker 1: obviously no ill intent, which to me is a key
25:08
Speaker 1: element of this whole situation. Now, something interesting has happened
25:13
Speaker 1: since we learned the identity of the third person in
25:15
Speaker 1: the helicopter was this female with clear ties of the
25:19
Speaker 1: Biden administration and some some you know, consistency with the
25:25
Speaker 1: whole Dei narrative. And I hated the fact that her
25:29
Speaker 1: family had to reverse course and decide to put her
25:33
Speaker 1: identity out there because of these conspiracy theories that were
25:36
Speaker 1: being birth, and then effectively had to put out her
25:39
Speaker 1: resume as a way of defending her against these charges
25:44
Speaker 1: of being a Dei higher. That's terrible, especially given the
25:50
Speaker 1: grief that they're going through. But there's so much about
25:55
Speaker 1: this that we don't know, and I just hate that
26:00
Speaker 1: we're rushing to judgment and once we eventually find out.
26:03
Speaker 1: And that's one of Trump's points, which there's some rationality
26:07
Speaker 1: to it, but over he's overdoing it. His whole point is, well,
26:12
Speaker 1: I want people to know what happened right away when
26:14
Speaker 1: they care basically instead of having a report come out
26:18
Speaker 1: months or maybe a year later and no one cares anymore.
26:22
Speaker 1: I get that, But you're the president of the United States.
26:26
Speaker 1: If a report comes out backing up what you suspect
26:29
Speaker 1: is the reality of what caused this, you have an
26:33
Speaker 1: enormous platform and the whole right wing media is willing
26:37
Speaker 1: to go to bat for you, so it's not as
26:39
Speaker 1: if you can't get the message out there. But he
26:42
Speaker 1: has no discipline. Trump has no discipline, and in this situation,
26:47
Speaker 1: he did not perform his presidential duties in a way that,
26:52
Speaker 1: in my view was remotely adequate. But there are those
26:56
Speaker 1: that are going to try to defend him, and they're
27:00
Speaker 1: going to try to indicate him, and they're going to
27:01
Speaker 1: basically shade the truth to do so. Jd Vance Vice
27:06
Speaker 1: President jd Vance went on Fox News with Maria Bartaroma,
27:11
Speaker 1: and she asked, well, I was kind of surprised by this.
27:14
Speaker 1: She asked jd Vance about the whole DEI allegation, and
27:19
Speaker 1: jd Vance, being a very smart guy, changed what Trump said.
27:25
Speaker 1: He tried to change the context of what Trump actually
27:29
Speaker 1: said because, as I think I've already proven, Trump was
27:32
Speaker 1: blaming the operator of the helicopter. He could not have
27:36
Speaker 1: been more clear. But jd Vance decides, no, no, no,
27:40
Speaker 1: that's not really what he's saying. He's talking in much
27:42
Speaker 1: broader terms, not blaming any one individual, that this is
27:46
Speaker 1: a situation where DEI puts stress on the whole entire system,
27:51
Speaker 1: and these are the things that happened when you create
27:53
Speaker 1: unnecessary stress. And here's what it sounded like when Maria
27:56
Speaker 1: Bartaroma questioned Vice President jd Vance, do you have any
28:00
Speaker 1: evidence that any of those hires that were there at
28:04
Speaker 1: the control Wednesday night were DEI higher.
28:07
Speaker 3: So the President's been very clear about this. This is
28:09
Speaker 3: not saying that the person who is at the controls
28:12
Speaker 3: is a DEI higher. But let's just say, first of all,
28:15
Speaker 3: we should investigate everything. But let's just say the person
28:18
Speaker 3: at the controls didn't have enough staffing around him or
28:21
Speaker 3: her because we were turning people away because of DEI reasons.
28:25
Speaker 3: There is a very direct connection between the policies of
28:28
Speaker 3: the last administration and short staffed air traffic controllers.
28:32
Speaker 1: That has to stop.
28:33
Speaker 3: And by the way, it's so funny to be the
28:35
Speaker 3: media has picked up on this, not you, of course, Maria,
28:37
Speaker 3: but others have picked up on this. The President made
28:40
Speaker 3: very clear that he wasn't blaming anybody, but he was
28:44
Speaker 3: being very explicit about the fact that DEI policies have
28:48
Speaker 3: led our air traffic controllers to be short staffed. That
28:51
Speaker 3: is a scandal. Thankfully, it's a scandal that the President
28:54
Speaker 3: has stopped.
28:55
Speaker 1: To me. That was clean up on Aisle five. That's JD.
28:59
Speaker 1: Van's trying his best, trying valiantly to clean up Donald
29:03
Speaker 1: Trump's mess. And I don't think he did a particularly
29:07
Speaker 1: good job of it, because I don't think the facts
29:09
Speaker 1: are in his favor. But that's what they're trying to do.
29:13
Speaker 1: And there's been so much going on, as insane as
29:17
Speaker 1: it sounds, I mean, here we are less than a
29:20
Speaker 1: week after this occurred, and it's already old news. So
29:24
Speaker 1: they're getting away with this. There are very few people
29:27
Speaker 1: that are still agitated about this, like I am, because
29:30
Speaker 1: our attention spans are minuscule, and there's a hundred other
29:34
Speaker 1: things that have happened since this occurred. But this is
29:37
Speaker 1: gonna keep happening with Donald Trump because there's nobody to
29:42
Speaker 1: tell him no before he does it, other than maybe
29:46
Speaker 1: Susie Wiles. But there was nobody in a position to
29:50
Speaker 1: be close enough to Trump to say, mister President, you
29:53
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent right about this DEI thing, But
29:56
Speaker 1: why don't we just hold off on this until we
29:59
Speaker 1: get all the fact and let the bodies be recovered
30:02
Speaker 1: and let let them be there be funerals. Why don't
30:05
Speaker 1: we wait. There's nobody with the balls or the wherewithal
30:10
Speaker 1: to say that to Trump, and then there's nobody afterwards
30:14
Speaker 1: to say, mister president, that was a mistake. We shouldn't
30:16
Speaker 1: have done that. And there's nobody in the right wing
30:19
Speaker 1: media that's going to hold him accountable for this. Instead,
30:22
Speaker 1: they're going to try to vindicate him, and so it
30:25
Speaker 1: will keep happening. And this has always been my greatest
30:27
Speaker 1: fear about Trump and the whole idea that he's a god,
30:30
Speaker 1: he's a king, and no one is willing to say
30:34
Speaker 1: that the emperor has no clothes, and this becomes really
30:37
Speaker 1: important in a crisis, and you know, this is an
30:41
Speaker 1: ongoing crisis, but this was a crisis moment that nobody
30:47
Speaker 1: around Trump was there to say, mister President, don't do this,
30:52
Speaker 1: or at the very least, mister President, maybe we shouldn't
30:54
Speaker 1: have gone there. Maybe we should have held off on this,
30:58
Speaker 1: and he'll continue to be enabled and enabled. One last
31:01
Speaker 1: point on this whole DEI thing. I was fascinated by
31:07
Speaker 1: the fact that the father of one of those killed
31:11
Speaker 1: in the Blackhawk helicopter a god name of Gary O'Hara,
31:15
Speaker 1: who is the father of the crew chief of that helicopter,
31:17
Speaker 1: Ryan O'Hara. He actually did an interview criticizing I thought,
31:23
Speaker 1: in measured terms, it didn't feel like this guy's a
31:26
Speaker 1: super lib And remember, his son just died in the
31:30
Speaker 1: helicopter crash, so and he wasn't the pilot. So if
31:37
Speaker 1: there was DEI involved in the operation of the mishandling
31:41
Speaker 1: of the helicopter, it caused the death of his son.
31:44
Speaker 1: So if anybody has an incentive to be looking for
31:48
Speaker 1: a scapegoat and be angry about this, it's Gary O'Hara.
31:52
Speaker 1: But instead, in very measured and I didn't perceive to
31:56
Speaker 1: be super liberal tones, Gary O'Hara express basically my view
32:02
Speaker 1: of this situation that this is inappropriate, and he goes
32:06
Speaker 1: further than me in saying that he doesn't even believe
32:08
Speaker 1: the DEI allegation makes any sense based upon what he
32:12
Speaker 1: understands of the situation. And here's what that sounded like.
32:16
Speaker 4: I know they've identified one of the pilots, but if
32:18
Speaker 4: the other pilot was a woman, to me, I can't
32:21
Speaker 4: imagine being the parents of that other pilot if she
32:25
Speaker 4: was a girl saying that what because she's a woman,
32:28
Speaker 4: she was less capable than the man. I can't imagine
32:32
Speaker 4: the horror that those parents must be going through. I mean,
32:34
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that's not the case. I don't know who
32:36
Speaker 4: the other pilot was, but Ryan, I know Ryan respected
32:41
Speaker 4: the people that he flew with and trusted them with
32:43
Speaker 4: his life. And you know, you don't get to do
32:47
Speaker 4: something in the army unless you're qualified. You know, you
32:50
Speaker 4: have to earn your spot to be moved into the ladder,
32:53
Speaker 4: to be put into that helicopter. They don't just give
32:58
Speaker 4: it to you, You earn it.
33:00
Speaker 1: To me, that was very credible coming from the father
33:03
Speaker 1: of someone who lost their son in that crash. Now,
33:06
Speaker 1: does that mean that he's right? No, I want to emphasize,
33:09
Speaker 1: as I said on News Nation last week, Trump could
33:12
Speaker 1: be right about this. I don't know that the biography
33:17
Speaker 1: of the co pilot, the female co pilot, is one
33:20
Speaker 1: hundred percent consistent with that. But you know, if we
33:24
Speaker 1: learn more information that she was operating in a helicopter
33:27
Speaker 1: and she made several key mistakes and it was because
33:30
Speaker 1: she wasn't prepared to be operating in a helicopter, then
33:34
Speaker 1: you know what, Trump was right, but he wasn't right
33:36
Speaker 1: about the timing and the way that he did it.
33:39
Speaker 1: The time, the place, the manner was all wrong for
33:43
Speaker 1: a president. And I realize that's probably not a popular position,
33:47
Speaker 1: but I'm sticking with it because I feel strongly that
33:50
Speaker 1: I'm right about it. Now, I want to turn to
33:53
Speaker 1: another classic Trump situation here in California, where Trump has
34:00
Speaker 1: bragging about the fact that he got billions and billions
34:03
Speaker 1: of gallons of water released from dams using the US
34:07
Speaker 1: military here in California because he is convinced that we
34:11
Speaker 1: and he's right about this. This is a very similar situation.
34:14
Speaker 1: He's right about a lot of this, but he's wrong
34:17
Speaker 1: in the execution where he is convinced that we are
34:21
Speaker 1: messed up in the way that we misuse our water,
34:24
Speaker 1: which he's one hundred percent right about, and he's going
34:27
Speaker 1: to prove that he's right about this. And this is
34:30
Speaker 1: where Trump goes wrong because it becomes about his ego,
34:34
Speaker 1: and so Trump has all this water released, and from
34:40
Speaker 1: what I can tell, and this is where it becomes
34:42
Speaker 1: so frustrating and so exhausting to evaluate the things that
34:47
Speaker 1: Trump does because you're never one hundred percent sure what
34:50
Speaker 1: the truth is anymore, because his critics, especially in the
34:53
Speaker 1: liberal media, especially here in California, are no more trustworthy
34:57
Speaker 1: than he is. But there's been a lot of story
35:00
Speaker 1: out about how this was almost a disaster that the
35:03
Speaker 1: farmers in the Central Valley here in California had to
35:07
Speaker 1: basically beg the Army Corps of Engineers to not release
35:10
Speaker 1: as much water as they were planning on doing because
35:13
Speaker 1: they thought they would get flooded out. But all this
35:16
Speaker 1: water has been released during a time period of the
35:18
Speaker 1: year when no one needs it. It's not growing season,
35:22
Speaker 1: and you know, hope it's supposed to be the rainy season.
35:25
Speaker 1: We're starting to get some rain now finally, but it's
35:28
Speaker 1: been a very weak rainy season here in California, which
35:31
Speaker 1: is partially why we had the wildfires last month. But
35:36
Speaker 1: so all this water is effectively it seems like gonna
35:40
Speaker 1: be a waste. It's not going to do anything. And
35:45
Speaker 1: some of this is supposed to be retained for the
35:48
Speaker 1: summer months that are obviously much drier, especially if we
35:52
Speaker 1: don't have a heavy rainy season, which we only have
35:55
Speaker 1: a few weeks left of, you know, end of February,
35:59
Speaker 1: maybe beginning of March, which is basically the end of
36:01
Speaker 1: our rainy season here in California. So it seemed to
36:05
Speaker 1: me as if this was a classic Trump ego move
36:10
Speaker 1: where he wanted to prove how right he was, and
36:12
Speaker 1: he did something that was almost a disaster, could still
36:17
Speaker 1: end up having caused problems in the future, has no benefit.
36:23
Speaker 1: There's no way for the water to get the Los Angeles.
36:26
Speaker 1: That seems to be clear. There is no path for
36:29
Speaker 1: the water that was released to get the Los Angeles,
36:32
Speaker 1: which was supposed to be the whole point. Trump wants
36:35
Speaker 1: to vindicate this idea that the Los Angeles wildfires could
36:38
Speaker 1: have been fought better if the water system in California
36:43
Speaker 1: was more efficient, and there's probably some truth to that,
36:46
Speaker 1: but that was not why there was no water in
36:51
Speaker 1: the fire hydrants or in the reservoir from which those
36:54
Speaker 1: hydrants were drawn on the night that these fires were
36:59
Speaker 1: at the worst. There's no evidence to that. But Trump
37:02
Speaker 1: gets this idea in his mind, and again there's nobody
37:05
Speaker 1: there to tell him. No, mister President, there's nobody there.
37:11
Speaker 1: And that's a problem because this almost turned to do
37:14
Speaker 1: the disaster. It could still turn in the future into
37:17
Speaker 1: a bad situation. But then again going back to how
37:21
Speaker 1: frustrating this is trying to figure out, as I do
37:24
Speaker 1: every week on this podcast, what's true and what's not.
37:26
Speaker 1: So Trump decides he's not getting enough credit for what
37:31
Speaker 1: he did. And while he's signing in the in the
37:34
Speaker 1: Oval office, signing more executive orders. This is all you know,
37:38
Speaker 1: Congress is basically a relevant Now, it's amazing. He's just
37:43
Speaker 1: gonna be a king and he's gonna legislate himself through
37:47
Speaker 1: executive orders. So he's signing these executive orders and he
37:51
Speaker 1: just decides to go on this rant about how he
37:53
Speaker 1: didn't get enough credit for what he did with California water.
37:58
Speaker 1: But the most interesting thing to me is that he
38:01
Speaker 1: used his effectively California Governor Gavin Newsom as a reference here,
38:08
Speaker 1: saying that Newsom is happy, strongly implying that Newsom is
38:13
Speaker 1: happy with what he did. And I'm like, what he's
38:17
Speaker 1: gonna use because he's getting attacked by all sorts of
38:20
Speaker 1: liberals and liberal media outlets for having done this and
38:23
Speaker 1: not knowing what the hell he's doing. But he's going
38:25
Speaker 1: to reference Gavin Newsom, and I thought, wow, Okay, this
38:30
Speaker 1: is really interesting, and is this Trump being brilliant or
38:36
Speaker 1: is this Trump just lying or maybe a little bit
38:38
Speaker 1: of both. But here's what that sounded like. In the
38:41
Speaker 1: Oval Office, Richard Grenell, Rick Crenell, to be your envoy
38:46
Speaker 1: for special Missions.
38:48
Speaker 5: I sent him to California to turn on the water.
38:51
Speaker 5: We turned it on. It was not easy because we
38:53
Speaker 5: had to go through a lot of environmentalists that are
38:55
Speaker 5: causing a lot of problems, and we have billions of
38:59
Speaker 5: gallons of water. It was on three days ago. You
39:02
Speaker 5: probably saw it should have gotten a lot of press,
39:04
Speaker 5: but it didn't get much. All we're doing is giving
39:07
Speaker 5: Los Angeles and the entire state of California virtually unlimited water,
39:12
Speaker 5: which they could have done five years ago, which I
39:14
Speaker 5: told him they should do, but the environmental has stopped him,
39:18
Speaker 5: and we opened it and we did it regardless of
39:22
Speaker 5: the state, and now the state seems to be very happy.
39:26
Speaker 5: I spoke with Gavin Newsome and he he's uh, very happy.
39:31
Speaker 5: I almost called him by the other name, my little
39:35
Speaker 5: nickname for him. But I think they were all happy.
39:38
Speaker 5: They have a lot of water in California. Too bad
39:40
Speaker 5: we didn't have it about two months ago, right. That was,
39:44
Speaker 5: by the way, that was a big That was a
39:47
Speaker 5: big move we have. I don't know if you saw
39:49
Speaker 5: the pictures that were released of the water pouring down
39:52
Speaker 5: from the Pacific Northwest and Canada and lots of other places,
39:57
Speaker 5: and it's a pretty amazing site.
40:02
Speaker 1: Now I tend to believe that Trump screwed up here,
40:05
Speaker 1: but even I have to acknowledge that's pretty interesting to
40:09
Speaker 1: use Gavin Newsom as a reference here effectively. But my
40:14
Speaker 1: BS detector was going on because I'm like, he didn't
40:17
Speaker 1: specifically say that Gavin Newsom thought this was a good
40:21
Speaker 1: idea or applauded him. He just kind of threw it
40:24
Speaker 1: out there. There was certainly a lot of plausible deniability.
40:27
Speaker 1: So I immediately went to Gavin Newsom's Twitter feed, because
40:31
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom tweets all the time, and I was half
40:35
Speaker 1: expecting there to be some at least a clarification or
40:38
Speaker 1: maybe a condemnation, depending on what kind of mood Newsom
40:41
Speaker 1: was in. And as of this taping, there's nothing Newsom
40:46
Speaker 1: has not contradicted this at all. Now I find it
40:51
Speaker 1: hard to believe that he didn't know about it. It's
40:53
Speaker 1: derectally possible. But why is he not saying anything? Why
40:57
Speaker 1: is he either he's certainly not backing up what Trump said,
41:01
Speaker 1: but why is he not contradicting it if it really
41:04
Speaker 1: is as wrong as so many of these liberal media
41:08
Speaker 1: outlets and Democrats in the state of California are indicating
41:13
Speaker 1: that it is. Well, we may have an answer, and
41:17
Speaker 1: I've already thought about this before I learned of this reality.
41:20
Speaker 1: But that answer is that, literally the afternoon that I'm
41:25
Speaker 1: taping this episode of the podcast, guess who is scheduled
41:30
Speaker 1: to meet with Trump at the White House to discuss
41:34
Speaker 1: federal funding for relief efforts after the California wildfires. You
41:39
Speaker 1: guessed it. California Governor Gavin Newsom. And my guess here
41:46
Speaker 1: is that Newsom didn't want to mess up this meeting
41:51
Speaker 1: and knows that Trump has him leveraged. And by the way,
41:54
Speaker 1: Trump because this is the area where Trump is very smart.
41:57
Speaker 1: There's certain areas where Trump's an idiot, and there are
41:59
Speaker 1: other areas where Trump is very smart. And knowing where
42:03
Speaker 1: he has leverage is definitely one of his stronger points.
42:07
Speaker 1: And it's my view, I think it's possible that Trump
42:11
Speaker 1: understands he has Gavin by the balls right now, and
42:14
Speaker 1: that Gavin isn't going to go out of his way
42:17
Speaker 1: to contradict him on something that in the larger scheme
42:21
Speaker 1: of things, is fairly irrelevant, at least in the short term,
42:25
Speaker 1: with regard to how much water he released or had
42:28
Speaker 1: the military release from a couple of dams in California.
42:31
Speaker 1: So basically, Gavin, who ordinarily would be attacking Trump for this,
42:38
Speaker 1: basically has had his balls cut off because he has
42:42
Speaker 1: to go hat in hand to the White House to
42:45
Speaker 1: Trump to ask for federal relief and assistance when it
42:50
Speaker 1: comes to recovering from the California wildfires. Now that's just
42:54
Speaker 1: my interpretation of the situation, but I think that's pretty solid.
42:58
Speaker 1: I've I don't know the nature of the meeting yet.
43:02
Speaker 1: I'm taping this before it happened. Next week, if something
43:05
Speaker 1: significant occurs, I'm sure i'll comment on it. But as
43:08
Speaker 1: of right now, I think Trump somewhat brilliantly, maybe by coincidence,
43:14
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of both. You never know what
43:16
Speaker 1: Trump used Newsom as a reference, knowing that he had
43:20
Speaker 1: Newsom leveraged and that Newsom was going to keep his
43:23
Speaker 1: mouth shut and not contradict him using Newsom as a
43:28
Speaker 1: reference on what he did to placate his own ego
43:31
Speaker 1: on the California water situation. Now moving on to so
43:35
Speaker 1: many of the other stories involving Trump over the last week,
43:39
Speaker 1: There's been a tariff war that was started and then
43:43
Speaker 1: has been paused, at least when it comes to Canada
43:47
Speaker 1: and Mexico. The Wall Street Journal, who I trust on
43:51
Speaker 1: these kinds of issues, not one hundred percent, but you know,
43:55
Speaker 1: I certainly take their word as having credibility. The Wall
43:59
Speaker 1: Street Journal editorial board put out a column or an
44:03
Speaker 1: article entitled Dumbest Trade War in History attacking Trump for
44:09
Speaker 1: what he was doing with massive tariffs being proposed on
44:13
Speaker 1: Canada and on Mexico. Well, in both situations, the tariff
44:18
Speaker 1: war was paused, and in classic Trump fashion, Trump was
44:25
Speaker 1: able to give his cult enough to where they can
44:28
Speaker 1: declare victory on his behalf. I'm very skeptical this, especially
44:34
Speaker 1: when it comes to Canada, because Canada agreed to do
44:38
Speaker 1: things that they had already agreed to do so they
44:41
Speaker 1: had already agreed to do in the last administration. With
44:44
Speaker 1: regard to border security and what Mexico is doing. You know,
44:49
Speaker 1: there's pictures this morning of Mexican soldiers going to the border.
44:53
Speaker 1: That's impressive, that's great. Okay, fine, so you're getting some
44:57
Speaker 1: sort of action from Canada and Mexico, but we're still
45:02
Speaker 1: going to have to deal with this. This threat is
45:04
Speaker 1: still on the table. I don't think the tariff war,
45:07
Speaker 1: the trade war, is over with. And to me, the
45:11
Speaker 1: key to this whole situation is Trump bluffing or not?
45:16
Speaker 1: And I don't have an answer to that. I don't
45:18
Speaker 1: know if he's bluffing or not. Both of these situations
45:22
Speaker 1: with Canada and Mexico are certainly consistent with the idea
45:26
Speaker 1: that he's bluffing, because it's not like he got a
45:28
Speaker 1: whole lot in return for pausing the tariff war. And
45:34
Speaker 1: again with regard to Canada, I think you can make
45:37
Speaker 1: an argument that Trump caved to Canada. But in Trump world,
45:42
Speaker 1: this was another huge victory. See, these people are so
45:45
Speaker 1: afraid of Trump, they're gonna cave and it's another win. Well,
45:50
Speaker 1: to me, somebody eventually is going to realize that this
45:53
Speaker 1: all might be a bluff, and you know, like with
45:56
Speaker 1: a bully, once the bully has been exposed as bluffing,
46:02
Speaker 1: then a lot of his power goes away. I fully
46:06
Speaker 1: acknowledge that one of the great strengths that Trump has
46:10
Speaker 1: in these situations is that people think he's crazy. And
46:13
Speaker 1: if you think somebody's crazy, you won You don't have
46:17
Speaker 1: confidence in your evaluation of what they're willing and capable
46:20
Speaker 1: of doing. And you certainly think that they might be
46:23
Speaker 1: willing to do something really stupid, like engage in a
46:27
Speaker 1: massive trade war with two of our closest allies literally
46:31
Speaker 1: and figurably, Canada and Mexico. And so that plays into
46:35
Speaker 1: Trump's favor, and so maybe he can bluff his way
46:40
Speaker 1: all the way through four years on this. I don't know.
46:43
Speaker 1: You know, the situation with China seems to be very
46:46
Speaker 1: different and a little bit more real, But that was
46:50
Speaker 1: a smaller tariff than what was proposed with Canada and Mexico.
46:54
Speaker 1: So I'm not a fan of tariffs in general. Republicans
46:58
Speaker 1: used to hate tariffs, but now it's part of the
47:01
Speaker 1: religion in this very strange new world in which we're living.
47:06
Speaker 1: But we're seeing all sorts of things change. I mean,
47:08
Speaker 1: it is astonishing, and Trump fans are loving this just
47:12
Speaker 1: how much, at least in perception, things regarding our government
47:17
Speaker 1: are seemingly changing. Now I'm skeptical about how much is
47:20
Speaker 1: really changing, but in perception, I mean, this is happening
47:24
Speaker 1: at an unprecedented and I think on purpose pace. And
47:30
Speaker 1: an example of this is we Trump has now announced
47:33
Speaker 1: that we're going to have a sovereign wealth fun like
47:37
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. Apparently we're becoming like Saudi Arabia. We're going
47:41
Speaker 1: to have a sovereign wealth fund. It sounds frankly like
47:46
Speaker 1: a presidential slush fund to me, and that Trump has
47:49
Speaker 1: said we may buy TikTok with this sovereign wealth. This
47:56
Speaker 1: stuff is crazy and dangerous precedent. It could lead to
48:01
Speaker 1: all sorts of very troubling situations. By the way, then
48:06
Speaker 1: this goes for so much of what's happening in the
48:09
Speaker 1: Trump administration. It sure is a good thing that we're
48:11
Speaker 1: never going to have another democratic administration in our lifetimes, right, folks.
48:17
Speaker 1: That's that certainly makes me sleep a lot better at night,
48:20
Speaker 1: knowing that we're never going to have another democratic administration.
48:23
Speaker 1: That might be able to take advantage of all these
48:25
Speaker 1: precedents that Trump is setting about norms, how they don't
48:30
Speaker 1: really exist, and how you can just remake everything about
48:34
Speaker 1: the government because you happen to barely control the Senate,
48:38
Speaker 1: barely control the House. Uh, and you know, you seemingly
48:42
Speaker 1: have a majority in the Supreme Court, and now you
48:46
Speaker 1: have four years to do whatever the hell you want
48:48
Speaker 1: to do. So, I mean, you know, the US government
48:51
Speaker 1: buying TikTok, if that actually happens, has all sorts of implications.
48:57
Speaker 1: But with Trump, you never know is that real? Is
48:59
Speaker 1: that fake? Is that a troll? Is that a bluff?
49:04
Speaker 1: What the hell is that? Is that part of the
49:06
Speaker 1: negotiation process? And tried to broke her a deal for
49:09
Speaker 1: TikTok to conform to the law that should have had
49:12
Speaker 1: it banned, and then Trump delayed that. I don't know.
49:16
Speaker 1: I don't know, And maybe this is all part of
49:19
Speaker 1: the strategy with regard to Trump, because if I don't know,
49:23
Speaker 1: the people that are dealing directly with Trump don't know,
49:25
Speaker 1: and our enemies don't know. They're never on firm footing
49:29
Speaker 1: with Trump. And that has happened once again with regard
49:33
Speaker 1: to the We're gonna own Gaza thing, which is making
49:36
Speaker 1: headlines as I tape this podcast that I referenced earlier
49:40
Speaker 1: on in this hour, where in that press conference with
49:44
Speaker 1: Benjamin Netanyaho he just said we're gonna own Gaza and
49:47
Speaker 1: basically turn it into a resort. Who knows whether that's
49:53
Speaker 1: serious or not. I mean, but Trump fans will always
49:57
Speaker 1: take him very, very seriously, except when he's being stupid.
50:02
Speaker 1: And then when he's being stupid, it's just a troll,
50:04
Speaker 1: it's just a joke. He's just being funny. It's just
50:07
Speaker 1: a negotiation ploy And isn't it awesome? Isn't it awesome?
50:13
Speaker 1: But now that we have a Gaza on the list
50:17
Speaker 1: of things that we're gonna take over, you know, I
50:20
Speaker 1: guess we're gonna take over Greenland and the Panama Canal,
50:23
Speaker 1: and we've already taken over the Gulf of America. Whatever
50:28
Speaker 1: happened to ending the Ukrainian Russian War, What happened to
50:33
Speaker 1: that that was supposed to happen before he even took
50:36
Speaker 1: office his first day in office, that was supposed to happen.
50:39
Speaker 1: No indication that's happening, By the way, I think it's
50:42
Speaker 1: possible that some of all of this is a way
50:46
Speaker 1: of distracting from the fact that there's no indication that
50:50
Speaker 1: has promised to end that war is gonna come to fruition.
50:53
Speaker 1: I don't know, you never know what strategy and what's
50:56
Speaker 1: not when it comes to Trump. But I mean, there's
51:00
Speaker 1: all sorts of chaos going on here all I mean,
51:04
Speaker 1: the news is coming fast and furious. Some of it
51:07
Speaker 1: is fake news, in other words, things that Trump is
51:10
Speaker 1: just saying off the top of his head that make
51:13
Speaker 1: him feel good, that never get fouled up on and
51:16
Speaker 1: never actually come to fruition. And some of it is actual,
51:19
Speaker 1: seemingly real changes in the way the federal government is
51:23
Speaker 1: going to operate. All of a sudden, out of nowhere,
51:27
Speaker 1: this US AID program, USAID, which has been part of
51:33
Speaker 1: the State Department, which nobody's ever talked about ever, No
51:36
Speaker 1: one's ever discussed this ever in my lifetime, is all
51:39
Speaker 1: of a sudden one of the biggest stories in the world,
51:42
Speaker 1: most important things. It's like, it's why Trump was elected
51:46
Speaker 1: was to get rid of this, this apparatus of the
51:49
Speaker 1: deep state, as Trump fans would like to think of
51:52
Speaker 1: it as. And you know, it certainly does appear as
51:57
Speaker 1: as if this USAID thing was a liberal boondoggle, that
52:03
Speaker 1: this basically was the sovereign wealth fund for liberals. That's
52:06
Speaker 1: what it sounds like, where even media outlets like Politico
52:11
Speaker 1: were getting paid apparently eight million dollars out of this
52:15
Speaker 1: state Department fund, which is if true, completely and obviously
52:20
Speaker 1: inappropriate and very very troubling. But I would like to
52:23
Speaker 1: get some more details on that, because sometimes these stories
52:27
Speaker 1: float on Twitter and they're not actually true. So I'm
52:29
Speaker 1: not going to go any deeper into that whole situation.
52:33
Speaker 1: But you know, look, I'm all for cutting the waste.
52:37
Speaker 1: I'm all for especially when it comes to foreign aid
52:41
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. So on paper, I am a thousand percent
52:45
Speaker 1: down with all with this entire thinking. But here's the downside. Okay,
52:50
Speaker 1: So there's a positive to all this, one hundred percent,
52:54
Speaker 1: And I get why Trump fans think this has been
52:57
Speaker 1: the greatest three week period in the history of of America,
53:01
Speaker 1: partly because they don't realize that some of this is
53:04
Speaker 1: not real and almost all of it is temporary at best, because,
53:08
Speaker 1: like I said, eventually there's gonna be another democratic administration,
53:12
Speaker 1: especially if this all goes very poorly. And that's the
53:15
Speaker 1: downside of this all right, right now, they're flooding the zone.
53:21
Speaker 1: You know, we're in the Super Bowl week, to use
53:23
Speaker 1: a football term, they're flooding the zone. Right They're putting
53:26
Speaker 1: five wide receivers in an area where the media is
53:30
Speaker 1: so understaffed and so incompetent and so lacking in trust
53:34
Speaker 1: that they only have three defenders now maybe even two.
53:38
Speaker 1: And so when you have got five wide receivers in
53:40
Speaker 1: the same zone and only two or three defenders, people
53:43
Speaker 1: are gonna be open, and you're gonna get away with
53:45
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, and you're gonna be able to,
53:47
Speaker 1: you know, gain a lot of yardage when the defense
53:50
Speaker 1: doesn't even know what the hell they're doing. So there's
53:53
Speaker 1: a lot of this. It's very effective that the flood
53:56
Speaker 1: the zone strategy given the fact that the media has
53:59
Speaker 1: been so weakened and is so back on their heels
54:02
Speaker 1: and literally now understaffed, and they get so distracted, and
54:07
Speaker 1: you know, there's only so many stories that they can
54:10
Speaker 1: focus on. So you're going to be able to get
54:11
Speaker 1: some of this stuff through without any real negative media coverage,
54:17
Speaker 1: or at least without the public even focusing on this.
54:20
Speaker 1: I've already kind of referenced that where the the whole
54:23
Speaker 1: aftermath of the of the airline crash is already old news.
54:27
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's not even being reported about it anymore
54:32
Speaker 1: because there's so much else that has grabbed the attention
54:36
Speaker 1: of the news media. And you know, they are so
54:39
Speaker 1: incompetent and so lacking in trust, and their audiences have diminished,
54:44
Speaker 1: so they have very little power to be able to
54:47
Speaker 1: take on this flooding the zone strategy. But the downside
54:50
Speaker 1: of this is when you do radical change, and again,
54:55
Speaker 1: you know, some of this sounds awesome, I'll fully acknowledge this,
54:58
Speaker 1: but when you do radical change in government, guess what,
55:05
Speaker 1: when bad things eventually happen, then they are on you.
55:13
Speaker 1: You own the bad things that happened way way faster
55:19
Speaker 1: than normal, like, for instance, the airline crash. Now, there
55:24
Speaker 1: were some Democrats that were absurdly and desperately trying to
55:28
Speaker 1: blame Trump for you know, having changed the government, and
55:33
Speaker 1: you know that somehow caused the helicopter to run, you know,
55:37
Speaker 1: to fly into the commercial airliner. But nobody really took
55:42
Speaker 1: that seriously. Even the media didn't really take that seriously.
55:45
Speaker 1: That was mostly liberals online. You know, one of them,
55:49
Speaker 1: the car Sellers from CNN even had to apologize, So
55:53
Speaker 1: that effort was way premature and went absolutely nowhere. However,
56:01
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a time period beyond which that's not
56:05
Speaker 1: going to be the reaction when Trump gets blamed when
56:08
Speaker 1: something goes wrong. And I don't know what the exact
56:11
Speaker 1: time period is, but at this pace, it's not gonna
56:15
Speaker 1: be that long. And so when you cut funding to
56:20
Speaker 1: all sorts of different entities and countries, not only do
56:23
Speaker 1: you have people that are pissed off, and when you
56:27
Speaker 1: make cutbacks in government, you have a lot of people
56:29
Speaker 1: that are unemployed all of a sudden. But guess what,
56:33
Speaker 1: if anything goes wrong in those areas, it's gonna be
56:38
Speaker 1: a lot easier to make the argument. See there were cutbacks,
56:43
Speaker 1: there were changes, and this bad thing happened, And like
56:47
Speaker 1: Trump is blaming DEI for the airline crash, it's going
56:53
Speaker 1: to be incredibly easy for a similar situation in the
56:57
Speaker 1: not too distant future to be able to be used
57:01
Speaker 1: by the media and by the Democratic Party to say,
57:04
Speaker 1: see Trump change this, he got rid of this, and
57:08
Speaker 1: that's why this bad thing happened. Now hopefully that won't
57:12
Speaker 1: be the case. Can you get through four years or
57:17
Speaker 1: you know, with the midterms the next election. Can you
57:19
Speaker 1: get through two years without something like that happened? I hope.
57:23
Speaker 1: So when I have my doubts, I have my doubts
57:28
Speaker 1: because they're setting this up now. The positive to the
57:31
Speaker 1: rapid pace is Wow, you're seemingly getting a lot done,
57:35
Speaker 1: but you're making yourself vulnerable to attacks if anything goes wrong,
57:43
Speaker 1: and I hope that doesn't happen. I've said that there's
57:47
Speaker 1: a timing problem here with regard to everything that Trump
57:51
Speaker 1: and Elon Musk and the Trump administration wants to do.
57:55
Speaker 1: I mean, when you make cutbacks, it takes ton. There's
57:59
Speaker 1: short term it's like an operation, you know, medical operation.
58:04
Speaker 1: Now there's short term pain and things get worse before
58:07
Speaker 1: they get better. Then there's a healing process. So when
58:09
Speaker 1: you make cutbacks or you know, deportations, or if you
58:13
Speaker 1: actually go into a tariff war, you know, there's all
58:17
Speaker 1: sorts of things that Trump is trying to do that
58:20
Speaker 1: will create short term pain. Trump has even acknowledged this
58:24
Speaker 1: to some degree before things get better. Well, if in
58:29
Speaker 1: fact there's that short term pain, and if in fact
58:32
Speaker 1: something really bad happens, that could create a massive problem
58:36
Speaker 1: politically now. Democrats are so incredibly incompetent that you know
58:41
Speaker 1: they may not be fully able to take advantage of this.
58:44
Speaker 1: In fact, if I was advising the Democratic Party, that
58:47
Speaker 1: would be my entire message. That to me, should be
58:51
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party's public message right now. Instead of freaking
58:54
Speaker 1: out over Elon Musk and oh my god, Trump did
58:58
Speaker 1: this or said this and democracy is ending, the message
59:02
Speaker 1: ought to be Okay, mister President, you're in charge, you
59:05
Speaker 1: break it, you own it. Let's hope nothing bad happens here.
59:09
Speaker 1: But if it does happen, something does happen, that's bad.
59:13
Speaker 1: You own it. You own it. That would be long
59:16
Speaker 1: term I think the smart strategy for Democrats. But they're
59:20
Speaker 1: way too dumb and they have no discipline at all
59:23
Speaker 1: to do that. So I don't think Trump has to
59:25
Speaker 1: worry about that now. As far as getting the rest
59:28
Speaker 1: of his administration and his cabinet officers confirmed in the
59:32
Speaker 1: US Senate, as of this taping, there's still a lot
59:35
Speaker 1: of speculation about RFK, Junior, Tulca Gabbard, and Cash Betel.
59:39
Speaker 1: Those are the three most prominent theoretical members potential members
59:44
Speaker 1: of the administration that have yet to be confirmed. As
59:46
Speaker 1: of this taping by the US Senate, I think they're
59:50
Speaker 1: all probably going to get confirmed because I think that
59:54
Speaker 1: there's a huge difference between a Republican senator voting Again,
1:00:00
Speaker 1: it's like Pete Hegseth, like Mitch McConnell did, and and
1:00:03
Speaker 1: you know Collins and Murkowski did, forcing JD Vance to
1:00:07
Speaker 1: be the deciding vote. I am of the opinion that
1:00:11
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, as much as he lows Donald Trump and
1:00:14
Speaker 1: has no more fucks to left to give because he's
1:00:16
Speaker 1: retiring as a senator from Kentucky. Finally, I'm of the
1:00:20
Speaker 1: opinion that if McConnell knew he was going to be
1:00:23
Speaker 1: the deciding vote, he would have probably voted for heg Seth. See,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: I think there's a huge difference between voting against somebody
1:00:32
Speaker 1: you don't think should have the position and being the
1:00:35
Speaker 1: reason why they don't get the position. And we're seeing
1:00:39
Speaker 1: that already, Like for instance, with RFK Junior, he could
1:00:43
Speaker 1: have been, he could have been had his nomination killed
1:00:47
Speaker 1: in committee. But there was a very skeptical Republican senator
1:00:51
Speaker 1: who's a doctor who vehemently disagrees with him on vaccines,
1:00:55
Speaker 1: who decided to be the deciding vote in his favor,
1:00:59
Speaker 1: because if he had gone the other way, he would
1:01:01
Speaker 1: have been blamed for killing the RFK Junior nomination, and
1:01:05
Speaker 1: that would have been almost effectively politically political suicide in
1:01:11
Speaker 1: this environment where Donald Trump is a king and r
1:01:15
Speaker 1: K Junior has been anointed as a prince, and somehow
1:01:20
Speaker 1: MAGA world loves RFK Junior and so and they have
1:01:25
Speaker 1: similar views of Tulsi Gabbard and certainly Cashpatel. Cash Battel
1:01:29
Speaker 1: I think might survive because of the fact that this
1:01:32
Speaker 1: is so important to Trump personally. See r K Junior
1:01:36
Speaker 1: and Tulsi Gabbard have a lot of street cred within
1:01:39
Speaker 1: MAGA even though they're both Liberals, they're both lifelong Democrats.
1:01:43
Speaker 1: I like Tulsi Gabbard a lot more that I like
1:01:46
Speaker 1: RFK Junior. I mean, if I had to choose the
1:01:50
Speaker 1: order in which I would like, you know, those three
1:01:54
Speaker 1: to either get confirmed or not get confirmed. To me,
1:01:57
Speaker 1: I like Gabbard the best. I'd probably put RFKH Junior second,
1:02:01
Speaker 1: even though I have disdain for a lot of who
1:02:03
Speaker 1: he is. But my major concern is Cash Btel because
1:02:08
Speaker 1: the idea that a guy who wrote a children's book
1:02:10
Speaker 1: making Trump a king and you know he's a wizard
1:02:14
Speaker 1: and doing the work for the king in the children's book,
1:02:17
Speaker 1: which Cash Betel did, and having this person be the
1:02:20
Speaker 1: FBI director is just insane to me. I mean that
1:02:24
Speaker 1: that's insane. Doesn't matter whether he's a good guy, smart
1:02:28
Speaker 1: guy qualified. That's disqualifying to me in a country that
1:02:32
Speaker 1: was founded on the concept that we don't have kings.
1:02:35
Speaker 1: So but I think because it's so important to Trump,
1:02:39
Speaker 1: I mean, Cash Battel is the most important of those
1:02:42
Speaker 1: three to Trump personally. So I think they're all going
1:02:45
Speaker 1: to get through, probably with about fifty votes. I think
1:02:48
Speaker 1: jd Vance may end up being very busy with all
1:02:52
Speaker 1: three of those nominations. And if Trump is able to
1:02:54
Speaker 1: get through all three of them Rvcay Junior, Tulca Gabbert
1:02:58
Speaker 1: and Cash Betel, that is an amaze in testament to
1:03:01
Speaker 1: his power within the Republican Party. And now he really
1:03:04
Speaker 1: really is, as Cash Matel implied very strongly in that
1:03:09
Speaker 1: children's book, a King, because there's so much fear in
1:03:13
Speaker 1: the Republican Senate of going against the king because you
1:03:16
Speaker 1: will commit political suicide. I want to mention something that
1:03:20
Speaker 1: happened in the RFK Junior confirmation hearing. And this has
1:03:25
Speaker 1: very little to do with r K Junior. It has
1:03:28
Speaker 1: to do with something that was said by a Democratic
1:03:30
Speaker 1: Senator from New Hampshire, Maggie Hassen, which just was absolutely
1:03:35
Speaker 1: mind blowing to me and certainly goes back to the
1:03:39
Speaker 1: entire COVID panic and this incredibly bizarre idea that and
1:03:46
Speaker 1: hypocritical idea that Democrats have about science. And I really
1:03:52
Speaker 1: don't think that Senor Housen misspoke here. I think she
1:03:56
Speaker 1: was extemporaneously explaining her view of science and just inadvertently
1:04:03
Speaker 1: exposed what a total fraud her view is and the
1:04:07
Speaker 1: Democratic Party's view is of science, because she simultaneously said
1:04:13
Speaker 1: that science is always evolving and never settled, but that
1:04:18
Speaker 1: it's wrong for our MK Junior to be sowing the
1:04:23
Speaker 1: seeds of this trust about allegedly settled science. I mean,
1:04:28
Speaker 1: it's crazy, but that's literally exactly what she said. And
1:04:31
Speaker 1: here's what that sounded like an RK Junior's confirmation hearing.
1:04:35
Speaker 6: Sometimes science is wrong, we make progress, we build on
1:04:41
Speaker 6: the work and we become more successful. And when you
1:04:45
Speaker 6: continue to sow doubt about settled science, it makes it
1:04:50
Speaker 6: impossible for us to move forward.
1:04:52
Speaker 1: So that's what the problem is here.
1:04:56
Speaker 6: It's the relitigating and rehashing and continuing to sew doubt
1:05:01
Speaker 6: so we can't move forward and it freezes us in place.
1:05:06
Speaker 1: Now. To me, that was the entire Democratic Party's response
1:05:09
Speaker 1: to COVID in a nutshell. Things that we like are
1:05:14
Speaker 1: settled science and not to be questioned. But you know,
1:05:20
Speaker 1: there's other things that change. That are the things that
1:05:23
Speaker 1: science is wrong about. And science was wrong in the
1:05:28
Speaker 1: middle of the pandemic panic about mask mandates, about vaccine mandates,
1:05:33
Speaker 1: about you know, distance, the social distancing, which turned out
1:05:39
Speaker 1: to be a complete and total fraud. They were wrong
1:05:42
Speaker 1: about so many things, and the reason why they were
1:05:45
Speaker 1: wrong was because those were concepts that were built on
1:05:49
Speaker 1: politics and activism and not on strong science. And we're
1:05:55
Speaker 1: seeing a similar view when it comes to the whole
1:05:57
Speaker 1: issue of climate change, global warming. They like that quote
1:06:02
Speaker 1: unquote science, and you know, they think that there's enough
1:06:06
Speaker 1: conformity within the science community because that's where all the
1:06:09
Speaker 1: money is to prove that that settled science, which is
1:06:13
Speaker 1: just absurd and preposterous. It's literally against the entire concept
1:06:18
Speaker 1: of science. Science is never settled it's always evolving, much
1:06:22
Speaker 1: like the climate is. And so I just found that
1:06:25
Speaker 1: clip to be so telling about how completely and totally
1:06:29
Speaker 1: wrong and hypocritical the Democratic Party is when it comes
1:06:33
Speaker 1: to the issue of science, and it relates way beyond RK.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: Junior's confirmation hearing, but clearly in light of what just
1:06:41
Speaker 1: happened with the COVID panic and what's ongoing with regard
1:06:45
Speaker 1: to the supposedly settled science of climate change and global warming,
1:06:50
Speaker 1: which our past president literally said, you're an idiot if
1:06:54
Speaker 1: you do not accept as being true, when I don't
1:06:58
Speaker 1: accept it to be true at all for many, many
1:07:01
Speaker 1: reasons that I've stated many times in the past and
1:07:04
Speaker 1: won't get into right now because this is going to
1:07:06
Speaker 1: be a long episode of podcast already. Now. One of
1:07:10
Speaker 1: the struggles and you probably have already perceived it in
1:07:13
Speaker 1: this episode that I have in the Trump administration is
1:07:18
Speaker 1: that I am in a very odd spot. I'm maybe
1:07:22
Speaker 1: literally a unique spot when it comes to the issue
1:07:25
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. I am a hardcore conservative libertarian that
1:07:31
Speaker 1: has never changed, but I have grave, grave concerns about
1:07:36
Speaker 1: Donald Trump being president. But on the other hand, I
1:07:39
Speaker 1: fully acknowledged that after he has won a second term,
1:07:43
Speaker 1: and that he, in theory, is doing some things that
1:07:46
Speaker 1: I'm in favor of, and it's certainly way better, at
1:07:49
Speaker 1: least for right now than it would be under Kamala Harris.
1:07:53
Speaker 1: That there is a benefit to Donald Trump being the
1:07:58
Speaker 1: president of the United States, and that he deserve there's
1:08:00
Speaker 1: credit for his comeback, and he deserves credit for now
1:08:04
Speaker 1: no longer being a loser, because, as I've said many times,
1:08:07
Speaker 1: my biggest problem with Trump, among many, is that he's
1:08:11
Speaker 1: a loser. Up until twenty twenty four is election, he
1:08:13
Speaker 1: was always a loser. He had only won one election,
1:08:17
Speaker 1: and that was a fluke situation that James Comy caused
1:08:22
Speaker 1: when he defeated Hillary Clinton while losing the popular vote
1:08:25
Speaker 1: by a significant margin and barely winning the key states
1:08:29
Speaker 1: to win the electoral College. So I am always very
1:08:34
Speaker 1: conflicted about Trump, but I've never given up my conservative
1:08:39
Speaker 1: libertarian philosophical principles that basically makes me a party of
1:08:45
Speaker 1: one as far as I can tell, not that I matter,
1:08:48
Speaker 1: not that I'm remotely prominent, but there are no other
1:08:52
Speaker 1: commentators that I'm aware of that are in this vote.
1:08:56
Speaker 1: And you know, when the whole Trump phenomenon began and
1:09:00
Speaker 1: there were a group of commentators who were called never
1:09:04
Speaker 1: Trump conservatives or never Trump Republicans, one of whom was
1:09:09
Speaker 1: a former congressman by the name of Joe Walsh, who
1:09:12
Speaker 1: ran against Trump sort of kind of in the twenty
1:09:16
Speaker 1: twenty Republican primary. Now, Joe Walsh was for a time
1:09:21
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, and he was vehemently anti Trump,
1:09:25
Speaker 1: even though he was probably philosophically more of a Maga
1:09:28
Speaker 1: guy than I ever was. I mean, his mentality and
1:09:32
Speaker 1: his philosophy is seemingly very maga. But he decided to
1:09:36
Speaker 1: run against Trump, and he and I talked a lot
1:09:39
Speaker 1: at that time period. In fact, we even had a
1:09:42
Speaker 1: breakfast in Beverly Hills together with his campaign manager and
1:09:46
Speaker 1: another aid, and we talked about whether or not I
1:09:49
Speaker 1: might help him on his campaign. And I knew he
1:09:52
Speaker 1: had no chance at all, but I thought it was
1:09:54
Speaker 1: historically significant and important that somebody stand up against Trump
1:09:59
Speaker 1: in twenty two twenty, and Joe had made it very
1:10:02
Speaker 1: clear to me the whole reason why he was doing
1:10:03
Speaker 1: this was because he had lost his radio show, because
1:10:07
Speaker 1: there was no audience for being a never Trump Republican,
1:10:11
Speaker 1: especially during Trump's first term in office. I knew this firsthand.
1:10:15
Speaker 1: There was no ambiguity about this, but that Joe was
1:10:19
Speaker 1: doing this as a career move, that this would somehow
1:10:23
Speaker 1: rebirth his career run for president, increase his notoriety, and
1:10:28
Speaker 1: you know, who knows, maybe it'll it'll create a media opportunity.
1:10:32
Speaker 1: That was something that he and I discussed very frankly,
1:10:36
Speaker 1: and I understood and it didn't work out that we
1:10:40
Speaker 1: worked together, and I was glad it didn't because it
1:10:42
Speaker 1: was a total disaster. He didn't take any of my advice,
1:10:45
Speaker 1: not that it would have worked out anyway, but once
1:10:49
Speaker 1: the the COVID thing hit, and you know, I was
1:10:53
Speaker 1: just so pissed off at all of these never Trump
1:10:57
Speaker 1: Republicans who review themselves as a bunch of frauds because
1:11:02
Speaker 1: they completely abandoned almost everything about their conservative Republican political
1:11:08
Speaker 1: philosophies because they didn't want to offend their liberal audience.
1:11:12
Speaker 1: And I stopped talking to Joe, and occasionally I would
1:11:15
Speaker 1: take shots at Joe online. Weirdly, he never took shots
1:11:19
Speaker 1: back at me that I can remember, but he was certainly.
1:11:23
Speaker 1: I'm now aware that he was following me very closely
1:11:26
Speaker 1: during this whole time period because recently he asked me
1:11:30
Speaker 1: to come on his podcast and do an interview, and
1:11:32
Speaker 1: I told him, Joe, I'm open to doing it, but
1:11:35
Speaker 1: you're not going to want to do this, and he's like, well,
1:11:38
Speaker 1: what do you mean. Why wouldn't I want to do this?
1:11:40
Speaker 1: I said, because it's not going to go well for you.
1:11:42
Speaker 1: And that's almost exactly what I texted him. We never
1:11:44
Speaker 1: even had a conversation about it. And then I asked
1:11:47
Speaker 1: about the parameters of what he wanted to do, and
1:11:50
Speaker 1: he seemed enthusiastic about it. So I'm like, Okay, fine,
1:11:54
Speaker 1: we'll do an hour interview and it'll be a video podcast.
1:11:58
Speaker 1: He said, and so fine, and I'm And the weirdest
1:12:02
Speaker 1: part of this whole thing, I was like, why is
1:12:04
Speaker 1: he doing this? Because I know I'm going to make
1:12:07
Speaker 1: him look bad. I mean, the facts are all on
1:12:10
Speaker 1: my side, and so I had zero concern about whether
1:12:15
Speaker 1: or not I was going to be able to dominate
1:12:18
Speaker 1: this interview. And I was quite confused as to why
1:12:22
Speaker 1: Joe even wanted to do it. It felt a bit
1:12:24
Speaker 1: like he has a guilty conscience. In fact, at one
1:12:27
Speaker 1: point in the interview, at the end of this interview,
1:12:29
Speaker 1: I even say to him he denies this, but I
1:12:31
Speaker 1: even say to him, Hey, you know, I think you
1:12:34
Speaker 1: have a guilty conscience about what you've done here, and
1:12:37
Speaker 1: having me on is a way to placate that. I
1:12:41
Speaker 1: still believe that that's part of what was going on here. Now,
1:12:44
Speaker 1: if you want to watch this, and I actually urge
1:12:46
Speaker 1: you to do so, this whole interview is fascinating. There's
1:12:49
Speaker 1: been no conversation like this between two people who are
1:12:53
Speaker 1: quote unquote never Trump conservatives, but of different, very very
1:12:56
Speaker 1: different flavors. So if you're an all interested in the topic,
1:12:59
Speaker 1: just go to YouTube tube and searched Joe Walsh and
1:13:02
Speaker 1: John Zigler and you'll be able to find it. But
1:13:05
Speaker 1: just for the record, I want to play two clips
1:13:07
Speaker 1: from that interview, and the first one they're both about
1:13:11
Speaker 1: five six minutes long. Hopefully you'll find them to be entertaining.
1:13:15
Speaker 1: They give you a pretty good flavor for what the
1:13:17
Speaker 1: entire interview was about. The first is this whole issue
1:13:20
Speaker 1: of a threat to democracy and my concerns that people
1:13:26
Speaker 1: like Joe are inauthentic and that they went along with
1:13:29
Speaker 1: the law fair against Donald Trump, which most of which
1:13:33
Speaker 1: not the January sixth part of the whole equation I
1:13:36
Speaker 1: viewed to be illegitimate and frankly a threat to democracy,
1:13:40
Speaker 1: which I thought was hypocritical from the democratic side. But
1:13:43
Speaker 1: here is Joe Walsh, former Republican congressman, never Trump, Republican
1:13:49
Speaker 1: who campaigned for Kamala Harris in a way that I mock,
1:13:53
Speaker 1: I think somewhat hilariously during this clip. This is Joe
1:13:57
Speaker 1: Walsh and me having a conversation and on Joe Walsh's podcast.
1:14:02
Speaker 7: Because I believe he, like you, He's not a conservative,
1:14:05
Speaker 7: He's an authoritarian. I believe he's a fucking existential threat
1:14:08
Speaker 7: to our democracy.
1:14:09
Speaker 1: I believe.
1:14:10
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna speak for any other never Trump for
1:14:12
Speaker 7: John I believe that, so I will support whoever is
1:14:18
Speaker 7: running against him because I believe he's an existential threat
1:14:22
Speaker 7: to democracy that I'm not.
1:14:26
Speaker 1: You may disagree with that, and that's why I doubt.
1:14:29
Speaker 1: I have no Joe, I have no doubt that you
1:14:31
Speaker 1: believe that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. However, yes,
1:14:36
Speaker 1: there are all sorts of ways to express that concern
1:14:40
Speaker 1: that aren't going to get you on MSNBC and CNN
1:14:44
Speaker 1: and aren't going to have you do a countrywide tour,
1:14:48
Speaker 1: uh for Kamala Harris. I don't remember what was that
1:14:51
Speaker 1: called was Republicans Grifters for Harris, or for Harris, or
1:14:57
Speaker 1: or Unix for Kamala. I can't remember what the name
1:14:59
Speaker 1: of the but you were part of.
1:15:02
Speaker 7: It was Yeah, Republicans for Harris.
1:15:03
Speaker 1: But John Eunix for Kamala. I think, well stop stop
1:15:07
Speaker 1: with that.
1:15:08
Speaker 7: But now, John, but now again, if you believe as
1:15:12
Speaker 7: I do, and just respond to this that he is
1:15:17
Speaker 7: an existential threat to our democracy, then I will support
1:15:22
Speaker 7: the only candidate who can keep him out of the
1:15:24
Speaker 7: White House. In twenty twenty, that was Joe Biden. In
1:15:28
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, that was Kamala Harris. That doesn't mean
1:15:31
Speaker 7: I'm a liberal. I'm just trying to keep that existential
1:15:35
Speaker 7: threat out of the White House.
1:15:36
Speaker 1: All right. First of all, but that many, Joe, Joe.
1:15:41
Speaker 1: In order to placate your liberal audience, which I include
1:15:45
Speaker 1: the Bookers at CNN and MSNBC, you've taken numerous liberal
1:15:50
Speaker 1: positions on on what on what. First of all, the
1:15:56
Speaker 1: entire never Trump conservative movement completely You mad itself during COVID.
1:16:03
Speaker 1: The COVID thing exposed, exposed all of you guys as
1:16:07
Speaker 1: a bunch of fricking frauds because you saw COVID as
1:16:11
Speaker 1: this perfect opportunity to try to go after and take
1:16:15
Speaker 1: down Trump, and every single liberal in your audience was
1:16:19
Speaker 1: a mask wearing mask mandate, vaccine mandate person that you
1:16:24
Speaker 1: needed to play came so you became part. And this
1:16:27
Speaker 1: is one of many examples. The lawfare is another great example.
1:16:31
Speaker 1: I mean, Joe, do you really believe e Carroll was
1:16:34
Speaker 1: telling the truth? Oldly believe and Carroll was telling the truth.
1:16:38
Speaker 7: John, Let me can I respond to COVID first? Thank
1:16:41
Speaker 7: Karen that this is why I love you. Because you're
1:16:43
Speaker 7: gonna throw thirty golf balls at me. Let me catch
1:16:46
Speaker 7: one of them COVID. My stance on COVID was I
1:16:49
Speaker 7: didn't support any fucking mandates my life, Joe, I didn't
1:16:53
Speaker 7: support John. The truth matters. I never supported mandates. To me,
1:16:58
Speaker 7: it was all about freedom. If you want to wear
1:17:00
Speaker 7: a mask, wear a mask. If you own a business
1:17:03
Speaker 7: and you want people to be vaccinated to come into
1:17:05
Speaker 7: your business, do it. I don't want the government to
1:17:07
Speaker 7: mandate it. We're all in this together. I encouraged people
1:17:11
Speaker 7: to do the right thing, but I was always opposed
1:17:13
Speaker 7: of mandates. Again, I won't speak to any other never Trumpers.
1:17:18
Speaker 7: And as far as lawfare goes, here's my thing. He
1:17:23
Speaker 7: committed crimes, I believe, trying to overthrow an election. I
1:17:27
Speaker 7: think we had an obligation to investigate that he committed
1:17:31
Speaker 7: crimes trying to obstruct the search for classified documents. I
1:17:36
Speaker 7: think we had an obligation to investigate that shit didn't,
1:17:39
Speaker 7: don't you.
1:17:41
Speaker 1: I have no problem with investigation, and I think that's
1:17:44
Speaker 1: not lawfare. But my question to you was, and I
1:17:48
Speaker 1: have several do you believe e Gene Carroll was telling
1:17:51
Speaker 1: the truth? Do you believe that she was raised by
1:17:54
Speaker 1: Donald Trump? Yes? Okay, see they're right there. That is
1:17:57
Speaker 1: an absurd position for someone who is allegedly a conservative,
1:18:01
Speaker 1: because there's zero chance, zero chance that Egen Karrol was
1:18:05
Speaker 1: telling the truth, just like there was zero chance that
1:18:08
Speaker 1: Christine blasi Ford was telling the truth against RHTT Kavanaugh. Now,
1:18:12
Speaker 1: you weren't yet part of the liberal anti Trump, so
1:18:16
Speaker 1: called Republican movement at that point, because you were still
1:18:18
Speaker 1: gonna run for president. But that was the first moment
1:18:21
Speaker 1: when I knew that never trumpers were full of shit,
1:18:24
Speaker 1: because they all all, let me finish, they all supported
1:18:27
Speaker 1: Christine Blosi Ford, and Christine Blasi Ford was a liar.
1:18:32
Speaker 1: Htt Kavanaugh had never even met Christine Blasi Ford. And
1:18:36
Speaker 1: so that was even before COVID. That exposed to me
1:18:40
Speaker 1: what the so called never Trump conservative movement was really
1:18:42
Speaker 1: all about. It was about grifting and doing a minstrel
1:18:46
Speaker 1: show for liberals.
1:18:47
Speaker 7: Dude, okay, and I'm glad you. I'm glad you phrased
1:18:50
Speaker 7: it that way, because that's the crux of it.
1:18:53
Speaker 1: Now, as I listened to that in retrospect, I felt
1:18:56
Speaker 1: like I really should have raised more directly the issue
1:19:01
Speaker 1: of first of all, Kamala Harris, the coup, the switcheroo,
1:19:06
Speaker 1: and the whole anti democratic element of her candidacy and
1:19:12
Speaker 1: how contradictory that is to the entire philosophy, the entire strategy,
1:19:18
Speaker 1: the entire messaging when it came to especially Joe's campaign
1:19:22
Speaker 1: against Donald Trump. And then also I should have mentioned
1:19:27
Speaker 1: what happened during the Republican primary in twenty twenty four. Well, thankfully,
1:19:32
Speaker 1: later on in the interview, I had a chance to
1:19:34
Speaker 1: do exactly that, and I took advantage of it. And
1:19:37
Speaker 1: here's what that sounded like. I became much more radicalized
1:19:41
Speaker 1: about the Democratic Party because of COVID and living here
1:19:44
Speaker 1: in California probably played a major role in that. But Joe,
1:19:50
Speaker 1: I have two young daughters twelve and seven years old.
1:19:53
Speaker 1: You know, so for four you know, do the math.
1:19:55
Speaker 1: Four years ago they were in very young ages and
1:19:59
Speaker 1: they were I just starting to go to school, and
1:20:02
Speaker 1: from over a year a tyrant in California by the
1:20:06
Speaker 1: name of Gavin Newsom prevented my children from having any
1:20:10
Speaker 1: legitimate schooling, required masks reuselessly for when they went back
1:20:15
Speaker 1: to school, threatened to mandate a vaccine for children to
1:20:21
Speaker 1: go to school before he realized he couldn't get away
1:20:23
Speaker 1: with that. And the entire Democratic Party that you support
1:20:28
Speaker 1: was at best silent about this and was overtly supportive
1:20:32
Speaker 1: of what he and other Blue state governors did. That
1:20:36
Speaker 1: changed my opinion of what I was dealing with with
1:20:38
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party in a very significant way.
1:20:42
Speaker 7: Fair and I appreciate that. And I watched you then,
1:20:45
Speaker 7: and you were very outspoken and consistent. All I'm saying is, John,
1:20:49
Speaker 7: I agree with you. I don't think you followed me
1:20:53
Speaker 7: during COVID like I followed you, but I'm generally I
1:20:56
Speaker 7: was on the same.
1:20:57
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give you the benefit of doubt on that, Joe.
1:20:59
Speaker 1: But but the point, but there was never you're not
1:21:01
Speaker 1: seeing You're not no.
1:21:03
Speaker 7: No, I get your point.
1:21:04
Speaker 1: I get your point.
1:21:05
Speaker 7: And and a lot of blue governors became tyrants.
1:21:08
Speaker 1: I would argue with you.
1:21:10
Speaker 7: A lot of red governors became tyrants, and I would
1:21:12
Speaker 7: argue with you. You know, Trump acted like a tyrant.
1:21:15
Speaker 1: I I hate what Trump did during COVID.
1:21:17
Speaker 7: I mean, so, all I'm saying is you're accusing me
1:21:20
Speaker 7: of not being a conservative.
1:21:21
Speaker 1: I agree with everyone you're saying about it. I'm building
1:21:23
Speaker 1: the context. I'm building the context for the twenty twenty
1:21:26
Speaker 1: four decision. So because of what I learned about the
1:21:29
Speaker 1: Democratic Party during COVID, that changed my view of what
1:21:35
Speaker 1: the threat is. It also changed my It also changed
1:21:38
Speaker 1: my view of how credible this idea is. That were
1:21:43
Speaker 1: the Save Democracy Party when Davin Newsom declared himself to
1:21:47
Speaker 1: be a king literally for two years and in a
1:21:51
Speaker 1: state of emergency with powers to do whatever the hell
1:21:54
Speaker 1: he wanted to and acted on them, and every member
1:21:57
Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party sat by, go gee, isn't that awesome?
1:22:01
Speaker 1: So the idea that you're going to try to claim
1:22:03
Speaker 1: that we're opposing Trump in twenty twenty four because we're
1:22:06
Speaker 1: the party trying to save democracy is inherently suspect. But
1:22:11
Speaker 1: then when you out Joe Biden after the first debate
1:22:15
Speaker 1: and then you insert Kamala Harris without one damn vote,
1:22:20
Speaker 1: not one vote, this is how you're gonna save democracy.
1:22:23
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with a person who's never received
1:22:26
Speaker 1: one vote in a primary system. It's not even gonna
1:22:29
Speaker 1: have an open convention. This is the save Democracy Party.
1:22:33
Speaker 7: Joe, take a breath, John to and by the way,
1:22:35
Speaker 7: again this is helpful.
1:22:36
Speaker 1: Thank you.
1:22:37
Speaker 7: So at this point in time, or maybe a year ago,
1:22:41
Speaker 7: when we talk about a threat to democracy, did you
1:22:44
Speaker 7: believe did you believe then and now whatever that the
1:22:47
Speaker 7: Democratic Party is an equal threat?
1:22:50
Speaker 6: Like?
1:22:50
Speaker 1: Is that where you guys think that? I think that
1:22:52
Speaker 1: they were at least equal threats, and they're way worse
1:22:56
Speaker 1: on some of the core issues facing the country than
1:23:00
Speaker 1: what Trump pretends to be, or at least the people
1:23:02
Speaker 1: around Trump were. And jd. Vance seems to be at
1:23:06
Speaker 1: least a guy that I can trust what he really
1:23:08
Speaker 1: believes in. And so I didn't vote for Trump, but
1:23:12
Speaker 1: I didn't want Kamala Harris to be president, and I
1:23:15
Speaker 1: didn't buy the democracy arguing for the reasons I just stated,
1:23:19
Speaker 1: one because of COVID, two because of the coup against Biden,
1:23:22
Speaker 1: and then the switch Charu. I mean the idea that
1:23:25
Speaker 1: you guys tried to come to be the party of democracy.
1:23:27
Speaker 1: That's what you pulled with Kamala Harris is absolutely yes.
1:23:31
Speaker 7: John, I love you, brother, but don't say you guys
1:23:34
Speaker 7: don't put us all in a vote.
1:23:36
Speaker 1: You went around the country doing those events Eunuchs for Kamala.
1:23:40
Speaker 1: You did Eunix for Kamala around the whole country.
1:23:44
Speaker 7: Again, technically, just to be clear, I think the signs
1:23:48
Speaker 7: behind my shoulder it doesn't say Unix. It's a fun
1:23:51
Speaker 7: thing to say. But I was part of Republicans for Harris,
1:23:54
Speaker 7: not Eunix for Harris. But again, you and I, John,
1:23:57
Speaker 7: You and I just and this is okay.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: You and I have a.
1:24:01
Speaker 7: Fundamental difference because I do consider Trump a threat to democracy.
1:24:04
Speaker 7: I think the Democrats are fucked up on a lot
1:24:06
Speaker 7: of issues right. But I would argue again not to
1:24:09
Speaker 7: revisit COVID. During COVID, I think both parties almost equally
1:24:14
Speaker 7: screwed up.
1:24:15
Speaker 1: But John, this is a important point. This is an
1:24:17
Speaker 1: important point because this is another issue of hypocrisy among
1:24:21
Speaker 1: never Trump conservatives. In a moment when I realized that
1:24:24
Speaker 1: you guys were mostly full of shit, you that is
1:24:26
Speaker 1: you go again. Hold on a second, Hold on, this
1:24:29
Speaker 1: is important. You mentioned Trump and Republicans during COVID. I
1:24:33
Speaker 1: hated Trump during COVID, But you know who I didn't
1:24:35
Speaker 1: hate during COVID Rond de Santis. And Ronda Santis provided
1:24:40
Speaker 1: a viable alternative during the Republican primary that was a rational,
1:24:45
Speaker 1: smart principle based conservative, and every single one of you
1:24:50
Speaker 1: never Trump conservatives attacked the Santis as if he was
1:24:54
Speaker 1: Hitler two point zero because you were terrified that you
1:24:58
Speaker 1: were gonna lose Trump as your pinata, and so you
1:25:01
Speaker 1: decided you needed to go and destroy the Santus too.
1:25:04
Speaker 1: If you were sincere, If you were sincere about your
1:25:07
Speaker 1: opposition to Trump, you all want to jumped under the
1:25:09
Speaker 1: Santas bandbacket the fact that you didn't prove you a
1:25:12
Speaker 1: bunch of full of shit frauds, John, that the Santus
1:25:16
Speaker 1: issue proved it.
1:25:19
Speaker 7: And my only response again is I'm sure there were
1:25:24
Speaker 7: plenty of never Trumper's or principal conservatives who did go
1:25:28
Speaker 7: after DeSantis.
1:25:30
Speaker 1: I didn't all.
1:25:31
Speaker 7: Belonging John, John, John, I guarantee.
1:25:35
Speaker 1: You that's not true. I guarantee you. So you supported
1:25:38
Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis during the Republican primary, Joe, because you wanted
1:25:41
Speaker 1: a principal opposition. Now, I have to say that, to
1:25:47
Speaker 1: Joe Walsh's credit, he took his beating pretty well. And
1:25:51
Speaker 1: that's partially why I have this theory that this is
1:25:54
Speaker 1: all about him placating his guilty conscience, that I'm actually
1:25:58
Speaker 1: doing him a favor and I'm beating him up because
1:26:01
Speaker 1: I think part of him thinks that he deserves it.
1:26:03
Speaker 1: That's just me psychoanalyzing Joe Walsh. I don't know Joe
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Speaker 1: that well, but I think I know him well enough
1:26:10
Speaker 1: to at least make that kind of an assessment. Maybe
1:26:13
Speaker 1: I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure. I found
1:26:17
Speaker 1: the interview to be enlightening, entertaining, and like I said,
1:26:21
Speaker 1: if you have an hour of your time you've got
1:26:24
Speaker 1: nothing better to do, look it up on YouTube and
1:26:27
Speaker 1: you'll get some chuckles. I think out of what happened
1:26:30
Speaker 1: when Joe Walsh interviewed me on his podcast now certainly
1:26:33
Speaker 1: related to why Joe had a problem or has a
1:26:38
Speaker 1: problem in my view being Republicans for Harris, or as
1:26:42
Speaker 1: I referred to it as Eunuchs for Kamala, is that
1:26:46
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is so completely and totally broken right now.
1:26:53
Speaker 1: I mean it's in their DNA. Their DNA is broken
1:26:59
Speaker 1: in almost every way. They have been so overtaken by
1:27:03
Speaker 1: the entire idea of basically dei and woke politics and
1:27:11
Speaker 1: just this distorted view of the world that at the
1:27:14
Speaker 1: very highest echelons of power, the decision making is completely distorted, dysfunctional,
1:27:24
Speaker 1: and broken beyond repair. And there's no possible way to
1:27:30
Speaker 1: illustrate this any better than what happened last weekend at
1:27:35
Speaker 1: the DNC Democratic National Committee's elections for their chairman and
1:27:42
Speaker 1: their vice chairman. And these clips, there's all sorts of clips.
1:27:46
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play one of them, but they're all
1:27:49
Speaker 1: sorts of clips that went viral online, and rightfully so,
1:27:53
Speaker 1: because they seem like they must have been created by
1:27:58
Speaker 1: the Babylon B, the conservative parody website. The Babylon B
1:28:03
Speaker 1: could not possibly have parodied. There's no satire that could
1:28:09
Speaker 1: possibly have been more accurate than the reality of what
1:28:14
Speaker 1: happened during these DNC elections where they are so broken
1:28:19
Speaker 1: and so dysfunctional and so overtaken by the whole DEI
1:28:24
Speaker 1: woke mentality, they literally cannot function. They really don't. They
1:28:29
Speaker 1: literally don't even understand their own rules for electing chairs
1:28:34
Speaker 1: and vice chairs because they are so afraid of offending
1:28:38
Speaker 1: any racial group, any gender group, all of the woke
1:28:44
Speaker 1: politics that go into the modern Democratic Party. And I
1:28:50
Speaker 1: could probably play five or six clips, but just for
1:28:53
Speaker 1: the record, because there's other things I want to get to.
1:28:55
Speaker 1: Just for the record, here's one in particular, where the
1:28:59
Speaker 1: black man who's speaking Gut's confused about what the rules
1:29:04
Speaker 1: even are because they're so afraid of offending anybody as
1:29:07
Speaker 1: they try to create equity. That's the key word here,
1:29:12
Speaker 1: not equality of opportunity, equity of outcome. When I you
1:29:16
Speaker 1: know that's mine mantra on DEI. We live in a
1:29:19
Speaker 1: country based upon equality of opportunity, not equity of outcome.
1:29:24
Speaker 1: But they are so invested in equity of outcome that
1:29:28
Speaker 1: even during their elections, they're trying to figure out what
1:29:31
Speaker 1: their rules are to ensure equity of outcome, and even
1:29:37
Speaker 1: they don't understand them. And here's what that sounded like
1:29:40
Speaker 1: at the DNC elections, we're.
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Speaker 8: Gonna exp We're finding out ways to expedite this because
1:29:47
Speaker 8: of our gender balance provisions. On this next ballot, you
1:29:50
Speaker 8: will be able to vote for two candidates of any
1:29:53
Speaker 8: gender on the next ballot. Okay, So on this next ballot,
1:29:59
Speaker 8: you will be able to vote for two candidates of
1:30:01
Speaker 8: any gender on the next ballot. If two candidates receive
1:30:10
Speaker 8: I'm going to turn to Helen to clarify this last part.
1:30:17
Speaker 9: You are in this next ballot where you have two votes,
1:30:23
Speaker 9: as the chair has set, you may vote for two males,
1:30:28
Speaker 9: two females, two of any gender. Okay, Nope, you can't
1:30:33
Speaker 9: do that because we've got to balance. You could vote
1:30:36
Speaker 9: for one of any gender. Okay, are non binary gender?
1:30:42
Speaker 9: Excuse me, it is late, Okay.
1:30:45
Speaker 1: You just can't make this. Shut up. And I think
1:30:48
Speaker 1: the most important part, there's the hilarity part of it,
1:30:51
Speaker 1: but there's the absolute broken nature of the DNA of
1:30:57
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party right now. They just don't get it,
1:31:02
Speaker 1: and they've been overtaken. And those people don't represent even
1:31:05
Speaker 1: the base of the Democratic Party, but those are the
1:31:08
Speaker 1: people that are in positions of leadership, because that's what
1:31:14
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has valued for so long. That's how
1:31:18
Speaker 1: you get Kamala Harris, a DEI candidate, as your presidential
1:31:23
Speaker 1: candidate without ever getting a vote in a primary. I mean,
1:31:27
Speaker 1: it's symbolic of what the entire party has become. And
1:31:32
Speaker 1: now they're no normal common sense people in positions of power,
1:31:38
Speaker 1: so they all think this way. It's a lot like academia,
1:31:43
Speaker 1: especially in a place like California, the decision making process
1:31:47
Speaker 1: is completely broken. I've talked about this many times when
1:31:50
Speaker 1: it comes to school cancelations. I mean, it's a small example,
1:31:54
Speaker 1: but it's similar. The people making the decisions see the
1:32:00
Speaker 1: world through a distorted and dysfunctional prism. It has now
1:32:05
Speaker 1: become so embedded in their DNA they can't even use
1:32:10
Speaker 1: basic common sense. And we see this in every institution
1:32:16
Speaker 1: dominated by liberals. The Grammys, I think, were a good
1:32:20
Speaker 1: example of that. How the fuck does Beyonce end up
1:32:24
Speaker 1: winning Country Album of the Year when she didn't even
1:32:28
Speaker 1: get nominated for a Country Music award for Album of
1:32:32
Speaker 1: the Year, and then she wins Album of the Year
1:32:34
Speaker 1: too for the same album. By the way, Taylor Swift
1:32:38
Speaker 1: went empty handed, which is interesting on a couple of levels,
1:32:42
Speaker 1: but I mean, we're just supposed to believe that Beyonce
1:32:47
Speaker 1: somehow wins Country Music Album of the Year, and that's
1:32:52
Speaker 1: not a result of a disfunctional voting process and maybe
1:32:58
Speaker 1: a corrupt voting process. And speaking of a dysfunctional DNA,
1:33:05
Speaker 1: because the Grammys are a great example. I mean, every
1:33:07
Speaker 1: single person making the decisions here is a liberal. Every
1:33:12
Speaker 1: single person is extremely concerned about racial issues. There's an
1:33:17
Speaker 1: over representation of every possible ethnic and sexuality group. I
1:33:23
Speaker 1: mean is it's basically the same thing that happened at
1:33:27
Speaker 1: the DNC. This is the same kind of mentality, and
1:33:30
Speaker 1: somehow you get a seventeen minute tribute to Quincy Jones.
1:33:37
Speaker 1: By the way, Quincy Jones, monster figure in music, absolutely
1:33:41
Speaker 1: deserves a tribute. He passed away last year. But seventeen minutes,
1:33:46
Speaker 1: and that's not even the major issue here. Seventeen minutes
1:33:50
Speaker 1: and an awards show is beyond an eternity. But a
1:33:53
Speaker 1: seventeen minute tribute that was hosted by Will Smith, Will
1:33:59
Speaker 1: Smith making his first live television appearance since he assaulted
1:34:05
Speaker 1: Chris Rock on the Oscars and got banned for ten years,
1:34:08
Speaker 1: and without fanfare, without any controversy, You're gonna have Will
1:34:12
Speaker 1: Smith without a script, speaking on camera for like six
1:34:17
Speaker 1: minutes and two different elements at the beginning of the
1:34:20
Speaker 1: end of this thing. How does that happen? That can
1:34:22
Speaker 1: only happen. I'm amazed by the way I didn't create
1:34:25
Speaker 1: more controversy. The creat some controversy. But that can only
1:34:29
Speaker 1: happen when you have a group of people who are
1:34:33
Speaker 1: completely dysfunctional, whose DNA is based in concepts that you know,
1:34:40
Speaker 1: common sense people can't even comprehend, and where there's nobody
1:34:45
Speaker 1: And I say this with Trump, and I'll say this
1:34:47
Speaker 1: with liberals, and it's exactly the same phenomenon, and it's
1:34:51
Speaker 1: just as dangerous. There's nobody in the room with the
1:34:54
Speaker 1: wherewithal and the balls to say, hey, maybe we sh
1:35:00
Speaker 1: shouldn't have Will Smith host this, because then they would
1:35:04
Speaker 1: be seen as a racist