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- 0:00[Synthetic version of Lam Hoang's voice]
- 0:07This is Business Podcasting: Production Strategy, produced by WorkHacker.
- 0:13I'm your host, Lam Hoang, co-founder of WorkHacker.
- 0:16You're hearing a synthetic version of my voice.
- 0:19Each episode I take one question about making a podcast for your business,
- 0:23tell you what I would do and how solid the evidence is.
- 0:32Today's question: how do you choose a podcast name people can find?
- 0:36This October, Apple's public search tool listed at least
- 0:40thirty-two shows named exactly Let's Talk About It.
- 0:43Tell a friend about one of them.
- 0:45Which one do they find?
- 0:46So what should yours be called?
- 0:48In my opinion, name it for the words people search.
- 0:52Then credit your company as the producer.
- 0:54It fits a show that strangers will mostly find by searching a topic.
- 0:58What if most people will hear about yours from someone, or already come for you?
- 1:03Then a distinctive name can work.
- 1:05Either way, the name has to say what the show covers.
- 1:08Someone who hears it once should be able to find it.
- 1:11And no other show should have it already.
- 1:13Here's what you'll leave with.
- 1:15Who your name is for, and which words search can see.
- 1:18Then where your company goes, whether to add keywords and how to check it's yours.
- 1:24First: who has to find your show?
- 1:26Strangers searching a topic?
- 1:28Then it needs the words they'd type.
- 1:30Take a show about great fish and chips.
- 1:33James Cridland edits the trade newsletter Podnews,
- 1:35and he'd probably call it just that.
- 1:38Call it The Codfather instead?
- 1:40Then people searching for fish and chips won't find it.
- 1:43And if listeners come by word of mouth?
- 1:45That gives you more room.
- 1:46Spotify's naming guide says a name can be abstract and mysterious, not only direct.
- 1:52Even then, it should hint at the show's topic or tone.
- 1:55So decide who it's for before you brainstorm names.
- 1:59Either way, don't go generic.
- 2:01Spotify's guide warned in August 2026 that a title that's too generic gets buried.
- 2:08Remember those thirty-two shows?
- 2:09That's too generic.
- 2:11Too narrow might box you in, though.
- 2:14The episode on starting a podcast had a test.
- 2:17Describe your show in ten words or fewer, in a way that describes nothing else.
- 2:22A name is the shortest version of that.
- 2:24Second: which words does search actually read?
- 2:28On Apple, the evidence points to the name and your episode titles.
- 2:32The description?
- 2:33Not so much.
- 2:34As of October 2026, Apple's help page lists the show
- 2:38name and episode titles among what its search reads.
- 2:41Then there's a 2021 test by the trade site Podnews.
- 2:45It planted nonsense words in real feeds, then searched for them app by app.
- 2:50Apple found the words in the name, the episode titles and the author field.
- 2:54It missed the one in the description.
- 2:56Spotify found that one.
- 2:58Its authors said search in several other apps
- 3:00seemed built mainly to find a show by name.
- 3:03So make yours easy to find by name, they advised.
- 3:06That test is five years old.
- 3:09But a hosting company's own test last year found
- 3:11descriptions made little difference on Apple too.
- 3:14Apple doesn't publish how much each part counts.
- 3:17Some guides tell you to put your search words in the description.
- 3:20That works on Spotify.
- 3:22On Apple, it may do little.
- 3:24What about the web?
- 3:25Here's our reasoning.
- 3:27A show's name works as a search term there too.
- 3:30Hosting and directory sites already carry a
- 3:33lot of weight with search engines like Google.
- 3:35So a name built on the term lets their pages rank for you.
- 3:39In a way, you borrow their authority.
- 3:42A show we produced was named for its search term.
- 3:45Within days it was on Google's first page for that term,
- 3:48through its host's page and the big directories.
- 3:51That's one show.
- 3:53And it doesn't prove the name did it.
- 3:55So put the words a stranger would type in the name,
- 3:58and let your episode titles carry the rest.
- 4:01The description still helps on Spotify and the web.
- 4:04Choosing topics and episode titles people search for gets its own episode.
- 4:09Third: if your company isn't at the front of the name, where does it go?
- 4:14Two places: your producer credit and your show's author field.
- 4:18You heard that credit at the top of this episode.
- 4:21The name first, then who produces it.
- 4:24Why not lead with the brand?
- 4:26Picture The Acme Podcast, then a colon and a description.
- 4:30That spends words a searcher won't type.
- 4:33Apple's guide for podcasters says the author field
- 4:36most often holds the company or network behind a show.
- 4:39If there isn't one, it holds the host.
- 4:42Make two or more shows?
- 4:44Apple lets you group them in a channel, which can carry your brand.
- 4:47Apple's search reads a channel's name too.
- 4:50Here's a made-up case.
- 4:52Say you run a dental practice.
- 4:54Your show is for people weighing dental implants.
- 4:56The name might be Dental Implant Answers.
- 4:59Your company's name goes in the author field,
- 5:02and the open says the show is produced by you.
- 5:05Fourth: what about a few keywords after the name?
- 5:09Podcasting teacher Daniel J.
- 5:10Lewis says a title should be only the title.
- 5:14Not a tagline, and not a list of keywords.
- 5:17And he's taught a whole course on podcast search.
- 5:20He makes an exception for a short line expanding the title.
- 5:23He says Apple kicked out his own show in 2018,
- 5:27mostly over extra words in its author field.
- 5:30So who says taglines help?
- 5:32A rank-tracking company.
- 5:34It studied more than three hundred thousand
- 5:36English shows on a single day earlier this year.
- 5:40Shows with a tagline in both their name and
- 5:42author fields ranked for far more keywords.
- 5:45Its own write-up calls that correlation, not causation.
- 5:49Apple's rules also say a show's details must describe
- 5:52it accurately, not sway search with inaccurate terms.
- 5:56Its guide for podcasters warns that a long keyword list may get a show removed.
- 6:01And a keyword-stuffed name might win a listener for
- 6:04one episode, one of the 2021 test's authors wrote.
- 6:07But that's not how you keep them.
- 6:09The show still has to be valuable and accurate.
- 6:13It also has to be true to your business.
- 6:15So no keyword lists, in the title or the author field.
- 6:19Last, how do you know the name is really yours?
- 6:22Start with three free checks.
- 6:24One: is it taken?
- 6:26Search the name in the podcast apps.
- 6:28Then as a web address and a social handle.
- 6:31Everyday phrases are crowded.
- 6:33Apple's search tool also listed nine shows named exactly Real Talk.
- 6:38Two: say it to someone once.
- 6:40Can they spell it and find it?
- 6:42That's one hosting company's say-spell-search test.
- 6:45Spotify adds that a show should generally be spelled as it sounds.
- 6:49Three: ask a stranger what the show is about, from the name alone.
- 6:53If they're confused, consider a different name.
- 6:56Then one more question, if you want to own the name.
- 7:00The Podnews editor from earlier registered his own show's name as a trademark.
- 7:05The US trademark office calls descriptive names weak
- 7:08trademarks, hard to protect against competitors.
- 7:11A name made only of the search phrase is likely one of those.
- 7:15That's a reading of general guidance, not legal advice.
- 7:18The office registers such names only in certain cases,
- 7:22such as after many years of use.
- 7:24So if owning it matters, add something distinctive.
- 7:28A made-up word is easier to protect.
- 7:31And your own name?
- 7:32It won't make a plain title easier to protect.
- 7:35Here's how it fits together.
- 7:37If strangers have to find it, name it for the term they search.
- 7:41And put your company in the credit, not the title.
- 7:45Episode titles take the search words that don't fit.
- 7:48If they'll mostly hear about it from someone first, something distinctive is fine.
- 7:53Either way, skip the keyword lists.
- 7:55And check that no other show has it.
- 7:58Here's one thing to try this week.
- 8:00Say your best candidate to someone who doesn't know the show.
- 8:03Ask what they think it's about.
- 8:05Then watch them search for it.
- 8:07What Apple's search reads in a podcast name, and what it skips,
- 8:11is free to download with the written version.
- 8:14And that's it for today's question.
- 8:16Thanks for listening.
- 8:17The written version is on workhacker.com, with every source.
- 8:21And if you want a podcast like this for your business, WorkHacker makes them.
- 8:25See you next time.