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Big Changes Coming to Big Ten Officiating · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to you Buckeyes tomorrow morning. From Monday, August thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Big Ten Media days and there's some wrapping up that
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to do. And every year, one of the
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  Speaker 1: things that we do as we speak with Big ten
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  Speaker 1: Director of Officials Bill Corollo, who goes over some of
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  Speaker 1: the new rules and the new things that are being emphasized,
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  Speaker 1: and so wanted to have him explain those to you.
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  Speaker 1: And also one of the new things that the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten is doing is they will be allowing the television
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  Speaker 1: to broadcast to be in the replay booth. They'll show
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  Speaker 1: you the what's going on now. This is for Friday
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  Speaker 1: games only. Friday night games only, Bill Corollas is Friday
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  Speaker 1: night home Big ten games, and you'll get to see
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  Speaker 1: just essentially what the Big twelve has done. Where you
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  Speaker 1: get the camera in there, you get the the audio
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  Speaker 1: in there as well. And so I asked Bill Corello,
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  Speaker 1: not knowing the answer to this, I asked him, have
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  Speaker 1: you guys talked about it or studied it? And he
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  Speaker 1: said yes, in fact, we've done both. And here he
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  Speaker 1: is on the whys of doing this, how the coach
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  Speaker 1: has felt about it, and would it potentially be continued
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  Speaker 1: on throughout the season into all games. And here's what
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  Speaker 1: he had to say about those things.
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  Speaker 2: So we've done both, We've talked about it, we studied it,
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  Speaker 2: and we more than are considering it because we're going
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  Speaker 2: to start start it this year for Friday night games.
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  Speaker 2: If it's a bit home Big ten game, if it's
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  Speaker 2: a shaded by Big Ten officials, which means we have
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  Speaker 2: our command center plugged into the game, we will allow.
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  Speaker 3: Television to take a look at our video that we're.
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  Speaker 2: Looking at in the replay process as well as the
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  Speaker 2: verbal side of the audio side of it, so they're
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  Speaker 2: going to get exactly what's going on it will be
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent transparent exactly. I mean, television does a
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  Speaker 2: great job showing the plays, and you know there's so
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  Speaker 2: many X number of angles that are that show the play.
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  Speaker 2: You caught it, he didn't, his knee was down as
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  Speaker 2: a first down, et cetera. But you'll hear the dialogue
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  Speaker 2: between the referee to the replay person up in the
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  Speaker 2: booth at the stadium and then also the command center
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  Speaker 2: where we.
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  Speaker 3: Have a supervisor overseeing those games. So that will happened.
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  Speaker 3: And a commissioner and I talked about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, looking at that with the coaches I head
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  Speaker 2: coaches in our spring meetings and was suggested by the coaches,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, no problem, We'll do it, but I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to walk before I run, make sure it works
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  Speaker 2: well and from the communication, is its proper. The other
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  Speaker 2: side of it is that besides giving the video and
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  Speaker 2: audio to television, we're going to give the coaches in
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  Speaker 2: their coaches box the actual not the audio, but the
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  Speaker 2: actual video that we see in all the extra angles
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  Speaker 2: that maybe TV doesn't show. But if we have sixteen
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  Speaker 2: cameras and they get it down to four or five
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  Speaker 2: on a play, they're going to have a chance to
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  Speaker 2: look at all sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: And then if you like what's going on, how do
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  Speaker 1: you determine that it's going to go beyond it? Is
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  Speaker 1: it just going to be Fridays this year? That's it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what we're announced to the coaches, and that's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm planning for.
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  Speaker 3: But we always take a deep breath.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of September, non conference is over and
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  Speaker 2: we're going into conference play.
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  Speaker 3: If it looks good and we're comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: The commission will make a decision at that time, and
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  Speaker 2: it could be the whole season, but for right now,
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  Speaker 2: it'll be Friday night, we'll walk before.
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  Speaker 1: Each sprints and if the coaches want it after September
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  Speaker 1: is how much does that?
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  Speaker 2: Coaches want a lot of things, and there's a really
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  Speaker 2: good relationship with the coaches, or let me say, in my.
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  Speaker 3: Eighteens, this is my eighteenth season, maybe ninet team. As
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  Speaker 3: I came in for a.
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  Speaker 2: Half a year with Dave Perry back in the eight
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  Speaker 2: I would say this is the best level of coaches,
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  Speaker 2: the best quality of coaches topped the bottom in this league.
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  Speaker 2: And they asked me for a lot and my job
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  Speaker 2: is sometimes to say no, it's a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good rule change. We'll consider it. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: here are the rules for this year. Here's what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to do this year.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, the.
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  Speaker 3: Coaches have a great relationship.
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  Speaker 2: You heard from the coaches the respect that the commissioner has,
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  Speaker 2: and that's true.
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  Speaker 3: That isn't just for the media. That's really happens. He's
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  Speaker 3: an unbelievable leader. And we don't have great games and
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  Speaker 3: a great conference and great.
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  Speaker 2: Success unless you have leadership at the top, great coaches,
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  Speaker 2: excellent players. And of course i'm biased, but we have
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  Speaker 2: you have to have great officiating.
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  Speaker 1: Always a popular topic among officials every year in college
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  Speaker 1: football is targeting. The new rule in place for this season.
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  Speaker 1: That is, if a player gets called for targeting in
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  Speaker 1: the second half end is he that ejection and suspension
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  Speaker 1: does not continue to the next game. It is contained
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  Speaker 1: in that game. Now, that is only if it's a
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  Speaker 1: first first targeting call. A second targeting call would then
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  Speaker 1: lead to missing the first half of the next game.
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  Speaker 1: The third targeting call would be an ejection from that
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  Speaker 1: game and also missing that entire next game. Now, these
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  Speaker 1: are very rare things that happen. In fact, only a
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  Speaker 1: couple of players. Even had two targeting penalties last year.
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  Speaker 1: But here's Bill Corolla talking about that and why the
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  Speaker 1: change basically losing portions of two games they felt was
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  Speaker 1: they finally felt was too punitive.
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  Speaker 3: I would say targeting.
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  Speaker 2: I get the most pressure from commissioners, coaches, players, fans
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  Speaker 2: throughout the whole season. Though, when we do have it,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a great rule, targeting, it's player We're out
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  Speaker 2: there for player protection.
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  Speaker 3: We want the integrity of the game. We want the
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  Speaker 3: right teams to win and lose the game. Not officials
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  Speaker 3: have an impact on it.
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  Speaker 2: However, because of players health and safety, it's so important.
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  Speaker 3: The targeting rule is good, but it was pretty penal.
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  Speaker 2: It was a.
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  Speaker 3: Major, major penalty, not just fifteen yards. But you're out
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  Speaker 3: of the game. And that's why we brought replan, made
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  Speaker 3: it reviewable, and now we have a command center. Now
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  Speaker 3: we have the second review at the command center.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not looking for perfection on everything, but I
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  Speaker 2: am looking for consistency. And if we call it the
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  Speaker 2: same way, the coaches know, the players know it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and you know he didn't mean it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but he hit him in the head.
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  Speaker 2: He was defensive, so he used the crown whatever, so
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  Speaker 2: we don't make excuses. But the new rule for this
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  Speaker 2: year is, Okay, you're going to get be disqualified from
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to go out because.
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  Speaker 2: Of targeting, but we're not going to hold that over
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  Speaker 2: to you carry over for the next game. Last year,
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  Speaker 2: there was only a handful of players around the country
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  Speaker 2: and we didn't have any in the big ten around
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  Speaker 2: the country that.
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  Speaker 3: Had two targeting calls.
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  Speaker 2: So if you do have two targeting calls in a season,
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  Speaker 2: then you're going to be disqualified from that game, and
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  Speaker 2: then we are going to hit you the next time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if it happens again, you're going to be
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  Speaker 2: sitting out that next time. Three times you're of that game.
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  Speaker 3: Plus a full game, so we can get even bigger.
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  Speaker 2: I say we changed the rule because the penalty was
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  Speaker 2: too heavy, but you know it's we're talking one percent
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  Speaker 2: that might get two or half of percent that might
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  Speaker 2: have three.
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  Speaker 3: Just I haven't seen it myself, and.
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  Speaker 2: I oversee a lot of leagues, but I think the
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  Speaker 2: targeting change, and I'd like to see replay get closer
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL with their flag and a challenge, and
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  Speaker 2: they're putting so much on the replay people they want,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's not there to get every single call correct.
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  Speaker 2: It's the major calls in the game that are reviewable
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  Speaker 2: and that.
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  Speaker 3: We'd like to try to adjust.
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  Speaker 2: And like I say, we average maybe two two and
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  Speaker 2: a half stoppages in the game. If we're really good
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  Speaker 2: at it, get it right and we're efficient, think about
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  Speaker 2: what we're you're the referee announce that it's a quick review.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and we don't even go to the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes we use the technology old wall, you know, Chicago's
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  Speaker 2: calling into the booth and at the stadium stadium is
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  Speaker 2: talking to the referee and the guy's name is now
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  Speaker 2: the fifty yard line.
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  Speaker 3: It's a first down that center. So we're trying to
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  Speaker 3: get efficient. We're not perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing's perfect in this game between the players, coaches, and officials.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of the penalties that are going to be
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more emphasized this year. Holding and that's
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, that's defensive backs, basically wherever it can be
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  Speaker 1: and a certain holding is allowed or just permitted, I
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  Speaker 1: guess if it's not impacting the play or if no
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  Speaker 1: advantage is being gained. But Bill Corrello cites a couple
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  Speaker 1: of well. He mentions there were some mysted calls missed
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  Speaker 1: holding calls in the Big Den Championship game between Indiana
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  Speaker 1: and Ohio State that he said, his guys have to
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  Speaker 1: see and have to have to make that call. You
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  Speaker 1: may remember seeing, say, Kenyana Jackson tackled on a third
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  Speaker 1: down play by Indiana that may have you know, could
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  Speaker 1: have helped Ohio State had that call been made, for instance.
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  Speaker 1: And so Bill talks about the need for the emphasis
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  Speaker 1: to be right and to get those calls correct, and
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  Speaker 1: also maybe being a little bit more efficient in calling
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  Speaker 1: the hands from DB's as we know that's you can
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  Speaker 1: watch an entire game and see just constant grabbing, and
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  Speaker 1: so maybe they're going to try to take a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of that out of the game, at least early on.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. And here's him talking about
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  Speaker 1: both of those aspects.
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  Speaker 2: So they missed a couple of plays Indiana and Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State a couple and I said at that point, we
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  Speaker 2: can't miss it when it's a file. It's a So
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  Speaker 2: we put emphasis on that. We're not looking to have
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  Speaker 2: five more holding calls in the game either. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: telling the coaches if this and we show them the plays,
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  Speaker 2: I said, this happens. I'm telling my guys, I want
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  Speaker 2: a flag on these types of plays. So they'll coach
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  Speaker 2: around it and they'll just say you can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: They're gonna flag it, and you're gonna hurt the teams
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  Speaker 2: touch You're gonna pull back a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Was there a feeling that maybe holding had gotten.
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  Speaker 1: A little too too loose, a little liberalized, and how
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  Speaker 1: it's been enforced the last few years.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's a little different between the tackles
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  Speaker 2: with the offensive alignment, and it's a little holding is
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  Speaker 2: a little different out in the wings, you know, So
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  Speaker 2: we don't get as technical inside the tackle box and
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  Speaker 2: we let them get inside the frame. And if I'm holding,
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  Speaker 2: as long as i'm moving my feet and i'm going,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm taking you off the edge, going, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: protecting the quarterback, and I stay in between you and
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback, it's gonna be okay. Even though I know
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  Speaker 2: he's on the inside, he gets outside one thousand and
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  Speaker 2: one thousand and two, you better get it off because
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  Speaker 2: I'm throwing it on three, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So they go.
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  Speaker 2: It goes pretty fast, but it's advantage disadvantage. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you got to block them like when I started used
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  Speaker 2: to you know, you have to grab your jersey, you
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  Speaker 2: had to get your keeps, your hands in. You can't
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  Speaker 2: block like this. It's changed. The game has changed, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay with it because of passing. The passing room
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  Speaker 2: came in in nineteen oh six. It changed the whole game,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so we got one hundred and some years,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty years passing game gets bigger and bigger,
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  Speaker 2: and the athletes are you know, it was three yards
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  Speaker 2: a cloud of dust.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we used to say in the big tennel.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's the whole field is used and athletes are
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  Speaker 2: using it.
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  Speaker 3: So holding is different there. We get a lot more
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  Speaker 3: technical with the defense. If I'm starting to.
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  Speaker 2: Get beat and I grab you trying to swing myself
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  Speaker 2: back into the play, it's gonna have holding just like that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna have a quicker defensive.
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  Speaker 3: Holding on the wide receiver. And I think that the dvs,
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  Speaker 3: especially at.
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  Speaker 2: The top of a route. You know, is he going
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  Speaker 2: out to the right, thing going to his left? Is
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  Speaker 2: he going to do it up the field? Up the
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  Speaker 2: scene right when he makes a move, the defender grabs
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  Speaker 2: him and then he can't get out. He's trying to
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  Speaker 2: hold him for a split second. It's more like basketball,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a hand Okay, that's a fall in basketball.
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  Speaker 3: Football.
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  Speaker 2: In between the tackle boxes, we've let a lot more
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  Speaker 2: go and you know, not that they're wrestling in there,
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  Speaker 2: but if you move your feet you're going to stay
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  Speaker 2: stayed pretty clean.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a judgment and you gained an advantage.
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  Speaker 2: Before he didn't gain advantage, you know, And that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of what we look at.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of and then the last thing that I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to throw in was something that we talked with
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State Special teams coordinator Robbie dishyear back in the spring.
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  Speaker 1: A new punt alignment rule taking away basically any kind
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  Speaker 1: of mystery or deception from some of the more creative
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  Speaker 1: special teams coaches and why that decision was made and
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  Speaker 1: how it kind of snuck through and it was something
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  Speaker 1: that was universally panned by the coaches, but yet the
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  Speaker 1: coaches also allowed it to be passed, which Bill Corolla
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  Speaker 1: points out. And so I left my question in here
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  Speaker 1: so that you can kind of see his response to
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  Speaker 1: it a little bit as a as a slight smile
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  Speaker 1: and then goes more into detail about what it is,
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  Speaker 1: why people aren't happy, and why they should just need
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  Speaker 1: to accept it. Here you go, Joe. You said, coaches
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  Speaker 1: one a lot of things. One of the things they
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  Speaker 1: didn't want was the new punt formation rule. Went into that,
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  Speaker 1: the thought process and the talks and all of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the scrimmage kick formation. And most fans won't notice it, right,
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  Speaker 3: the media won't notice it.
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  Speaker 2: My special team's coaches really noticed it, and some of
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  Speaker 2: the head coaches are very emphatic about why did you.
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  Speaker 3: I swear I'm not on the roasterman anymore. But the
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  Speaker 3: reality is we it went through the FCA. The coaches
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  Speaker 3: looked at it. They're busy with nil recruiting.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't get to the probably the top of the
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  Speaker 2: stack for the head coach or the special teams guy.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, maybe we could have done a better
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  Speaker 2: job when you have this many approved rulings.
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  Speaker 3: After we make a rule change and all this controversy
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  Speaker 3: and the zoom calls that we've had on the rule,
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  Speaker 3: but the rule is the rule. It passed and it's
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  Speaker 3: in there, and we're going to enforce it.
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  Speaker 2: But they're taking away what they've done for years and
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  Speaker 2: players that they recruited for the special teams, linebackers, defensive
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  Speaker 2: cks on the offensive side, hunting the ball, running down
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  Speaker 2: the field, and now we're saying you have to be
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  Speaker 2: in tight you can't spread them out to you.
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  Speaker 3: And they were doing it for some trick.
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  Speaker 2: Plays or at least forcing the other team to think, well, they.
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  Speaker 3: May pass off this situation.
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  Speaker 2: You know that end guy is off the line, and
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  Speaker 2: now this left guard who's the next guy in is
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  Speaker 2: number eighty eight and you can get you at I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it got confusing for the defense.
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  Speaker 3: So there's reasons why they did it.
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  Speaker 2: Most teams don't run a fake punt, but less than
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  Speaker 2: one percent of the time. So we made a rule
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  Speaker 2: change that affected a the place for once, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it'll be looked at again, and.
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll plan enough and we'll we'll try to
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  Speaker 3: make it better for the game. But for right now,
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  Speaker 3: they don't like it. But that's a good example. Coaches
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  Speaker 3: might not like it, but it's voted in and that's
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  Speaker 3: what we're going.
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  Speaker 1: To do, do you, So there you go. Thanks as
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  Speaker 1: always to Bill Corolla for taking the time to talk
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  Speaker 1: with us and answer the questions that we have. We
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  Speaker 1: will have maybe a little bit more from Victim me
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  Speaker 1: DA days, but camp is fast approaching begins on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have some previews in terms of some camp battles
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  Speaker 1: to watch out for, and then we will of course
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  Speaker 1: have some post game post practice shows for you this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Practice kicks off on Thursday. We will be at the
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  Speaker 1: first three practices Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, and we'll let
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  Speaker 1: you know everything we see as those wrap up. That
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  Speaker 1: will be in the morning, so we'll be doing some
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  Speaker 1: we'll be there in the morning, then we will be
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  Speaker 1: talking to some players and coaches afterwards, and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: be talking amongst ourselves and we'll give you guys a
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  Speaker 1: full update on everything we see and heard and all
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